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Speaker 3: But they finally let a team hang around long enough.

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Speaker 2: Gordon went back to the sideline, briskers over their two

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Speaker 2: down thirty yard try in essence to win it for Cairo.

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Speaker 2: Santos lay clock had four good snap, good hold, good kick.

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Speaker 1: The Bear state on top in a twelve to ten

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Speaker 1: agonizing Monday. And it is the Vikings, the team of

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm too caught up in my vikings wish

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Speaker 4: I'm not backing off.

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Speaker 5: Justin Fields fumbles that ball. As crazy as this night

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Speaker 5: surprising to me, Mark the blitz master and had been

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Speaker 6: For yep, thirty four yard completion to DJ Moore and

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Speaker 5: They have a buy they're six and six. That there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't. We can't bail. We can't. This is

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Speaker 1: a man of valor, that is a man of bottomless integrity.

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Speaker 1: Pressured and to let him off the hook like that.

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Speaker 5: No, their defense, you know, played well for most of

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Speaker 4: So he was at.

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Speaker 5: Fault on a lot of these. And then the fumbles

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Speaker 6: The Vikings are who they are, They've got They're gonna

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Speaker 6: like cool, like it happened. It happened. If this were

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Speaker 5: That was that was a four. There aren't many four

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Speaker 5: interception games this year. That was kind of a meltdown

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Speaker 6: Well, So Dan and Mark, though, are ignoring one of

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Speaker 1: I want to see how far we could take this.

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Speaker 1: How bad can we get every virtually every favorite one.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on that mark. And he's one

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Speaker 1: The one good thing mark about Monday Night Football, no

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Speaker 1: And they're just throwing that easy cheese. And there was

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes here who have the same thought as

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Speaker 1: public opposition. I just thought it was fun. Let's listen in.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned the one he didn't want to hear about it.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned the one that he dropped last week against

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Speaker 3: Detroit that likely wins the game if he makes that play.

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Speaker 3: Detroit scores on the very next play. That's a pick

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Speaker 3: six again, So back to back weeks. He has an

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Speaker 3: He can't hear you now anyway, No, but he's got family.

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Speaker 3: He will just hear about it after and then be

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Speaker 2: Of the week, and then we'll all forget about it.

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Speaker 2: It's three nothing bears on top as they go back

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Speaker 1: I mean they're just throwing high with a big, old

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Speaker 6: I would say, as someone who's you know, from time

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Speaker 6: you just ride it out. You just ride it out the.

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Speaker 5: Chef's kiss for me, there was him saying, and then

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Speaker 5: we'll all forget about it. That's what puts Joe Buck

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Speaker 4: We'll have no memory of it.

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Speaker 5: And Dan, you you once said, you know, almost hurtfully

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Speaker 5: I hope you know how much this means to me.

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Speaker 5: Is I couldn't agree with you more about your Joe

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Speaker 5: Buck and Troy Aikman take. They this is the bed

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, good, Let I see that makes me

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Speaker 1: they say the Internet never forgets, but you know, life

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Speaker 1: goes on old blood o blad dah, Yes, it does.

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Speaker 1: ian Rapaport out of Charlotte.

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Speaker 4: Owner Dave Tepper.

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Speaker 8: Mike did not want to make this move during the season.

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Speaker 8: Sounded like the preference would be to evaluate after the season.

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Speaker 8: That was the goal and it is always the goal

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Speaker 8: until unless you just cannot watch any further. The brutal

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Speaker 8: game on Sunday, plenty of mismanagement, quarterback did not play well.

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Speaker 8: Owner Dave Tepper deciding this morning that Frank Reich would

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Speaker 8: be out less than one season after taking over the

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Speaker 8: Carolina Panthers head coaching duties, and it is once again

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Speaker 8: a coaching search on in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: H Yes, unbelievable. Frank Reich is out after just eleven games,

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Speaker 1: which is we're talking history. We're talking he didn't last

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Speaker 1: But maybe we should have known it was coming, because,

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Speaker 1: shook his head and said, fuck. It was bad news

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Speaker 1: for Frank Reich. And sure enough, the meeting on Monday

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Speaker 1: went as poorly as imagined. He leaves after a one

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Speaker 1: in ten start of the season and no growth from

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Speaker 1: number one overall. Pick Bryce Young. Let's face it, Mark,

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Speaker 1: that is ultimately what got Reich canned. It's one thing,

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Speaker 1: and I really do think because Tepper is so I

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Speaker 1: has his hands in everything and has decided, Man, we

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Speaker 1: get rid of the head coach, something that he's been

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Speaker 6: It's a total disaster. I like part of me like

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Speaker 6: just feels for Frank Reike because I think we have

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Speaker 6: good head coach overall. Like, I think this was a mess.

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Speaker 6: The roster was a mess.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: They put Bryce Young into a tough situation.

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Speaker 6: right to create the right environment that works in other places.

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Speaker 6: I don't know about those places because I'm not good

436
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 6: at other jobs. But I do this job. But like

437
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 6: in the NFL, like I don't know if I am,

438
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 6: but like the owner like is going to learn real

439
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 6: quick that like this kind of situation where you're still

440
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 6: paying Matt Rule's assistance at this point, you signed Matt

441
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Speaker 6: Rule to like an eight year contract that threw a

442
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 6: bunch of other owners like into a tizzy because it

443
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 6: was ridiculous. You're now painting you still are on the

444
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 6: hook for twenty five million to Frank Reich. The impatience level.

445
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Speaker 6: If you took an overall look at the roster, what

446
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 6: were you expecting this season? Like what are you asking

447
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 6: Frank Reich to accomplish? Like I've been down on Frank Reike.

448
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 6: I don't think he did. I don't think he was

449
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 6: special this year at all. He didn't like actually come

450
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 6: in and really make things great for them. But it's

451
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 6: like Frank Reich is just the scapegoat here. I mean,

452
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Speaker 6: I mean, where's the patience level? And I think the

453
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 6: Panthers have a one of the worst problems you can

454
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Speaker 6: have as an NFL fan, which is your owner is

455
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 6: creating the mailstrom. Your owner is creating the firestorm. Your

456
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 6: owner is creating the problem. And I don't know how

457
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Speaker 6: you get out of that. You don't get out of

458
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Speaker 6: that because it's not solvable by firing anyone else, like

459
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 6: Tepa right now is the problem?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: And he is fired between his MLS team. He bought

462
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Speaker 5: an MLS team a couple of years ago. It was

463
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 5: an expansion, so they were building it up. But they

464
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: started playing last year and then he's got the NFL team.

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Speaker 5: Between those two teams, in the last eighteen months, he

466
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 5: has fired four head coaches. That is not the interim.

467
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 5: So he had his MLS team, he fired the coach

468
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Speaker 5: after one season, then he fired Matt Rule in the

469
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Speaker 5: middle of last season. Then the MLS team made the

470
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Speaker 5: playoffs actually, and he fired that coach anyways after one season,

471
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 5: and now here's Raich and it's all fine, like obviously,

472
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: Like if you're in that press conference tomorrow, the question

473
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 5: is like, well, why should we have any confidence you

474
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 5: know how to pick a coach because you are self,

475
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 5: admittedly terrible at it. You have said four different times,

476
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: I'm bad at this. I need to fit my mistake.

477
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 5: You gave you said it. Matt Rule got a seven

478
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 5: year contractor Frank Raike got a five. They were the

479
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 5: most expensive coaching at staff in history. Frank Reike with

480
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 5: all these assistants. So he's bad at it? Why why

481
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 5: should you be any good at it? And it's not

482
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: even Frank Reike's fault necessarily. When the reporting from Adam

483
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 5: Schefter was that he wanted c. J. Stroud or Anthony Richardson,

484
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: there was differing reports on that that Frank Reike did

485
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 5: not want Bryce Young, but that the owner did. And

486
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: so that is just as messy as humanly possible.

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Speaker 1: And you saw it. I mean I watched the game

488
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Speaker 1: yesterday and you could just see Frank Reich on the sideline,

489
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: just his body language and he was just struggling. It

490
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: was it was tough for him. And then when you

491
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: think about that kind of stuff, you know, this is

492
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: his last chance. Let's face it, this is Frank. You

493
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: got fired by two straight teams and back to back years.

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Speaker 1: He's not getting another head coaching job. It would be

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Speaker 1: a stunner if he did.

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Speaker 5: Do you want do you want to quote from him

497
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: to Scott Fowler of the Yeah Ever today, The quote

498
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 5: was this is probably the final chapter of my NFL journey.

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Speaker 4: That's such a sa.

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Speaker 1: And that's said, and you if you only get one

501
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: more bite at the apple, you kinda and you get

502
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: hired as a guy that has a lot of experience

503
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: both as a player and as a coach, and the

504
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: pedigree coming, you know, before the coach job from the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: You I think what Tepper needs to learn is you

506
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: should defer to people that know this business more than yourself.

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00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: And maybe if you listen to Frank Reich and some

508
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: other football people, you have Stroud or you have Richardson,

509
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: who we don't know what he's gonna be like, but

510
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: we certainly know Stroud is the dude. And I don't

511
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: want to oversimplify it or repeat myself, but it is.

512
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Speaker 1: This is the other thing that I imagine is massively

513
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: frustrating to someone like a Dave Tepper is if he

514
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: just picks the other guy, none of this is probably

515
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: happening now. I'm not saying Stroud would be doing as

516
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: well in Carolina as he is in Houston, because there's

517
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: a different coaching staff down there, different players, but you

518
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: get the feeling that if if he makes that decision, differently.

519
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: We might we are probably not in this situation.

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00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 5: He's probably not fired, but I feel like it would

521
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 5: still be a mess, but it wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Be the same.

523
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like, here's the thing, Like, and

524
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna.

525
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: Seen some great quarterbacks in messes, you know, as rookie quarterbacks.

526
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: He's sure and and but I've seen a lot of

527
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks too, Greg, Like from my time as a Jets fan.

528
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: When you're when you're like at the bottom of the

529
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: QBR list, there is coming back from him. You'll get

530
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. There's a couple of cases through the year,

531
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Eli like it happens, but it's also many times a

532
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: sign of a bad sign. And and he has been

533
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: very bad this year. Bryce Young and hopefully someone comes

534
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: in that connects with him. But Young being this guy

535
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: so far, and the fact that they don't have a

536
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, and the fact that Tepper is

537
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: who he is, Like, who wants this job? This is

538
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: not a very this is not a very attractive job

539
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: on the open market. I don't think yep.

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Speaker 6: That was my thought too, was like it's gonna be

541
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 6: tough to pull at this point. I would imagine Tepper

542
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 6: wants to hit a home run, you know, from an

543
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 6: optics standpoint, and you're asking a coach to come in

544
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 6: and work out of a corner because like I think,

545
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 6: like the quarterback is the number one thing, and like

546
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 6: Bryce Young, Dan, I think you said it well like

547
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 6: last night, like he plays small, like we we there's

548
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 6: things you like about Bryce Young, but it's like the

549
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 6: next coach, Like what kind of coach is it gonna be? That,

550
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 6: Like you've been stripped of picks, you traded away your

551
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 6: number one wide receiver, there's very few weapons, the team

552
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 6: has a disastrous offensive line, and you're not sure the

553
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: quarterback can play. Like anyone will take an NFL job

554
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 6: at some point, but this is a rough ask and

555
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 6: it's like you're not going to get a premier candidate,

556
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 6: so like Tepper might wind up with someone even more

557
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 6: unknown or riskier than even Frank Reich. And it's like

558
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 6: I just I don't know. I think it's like the

559
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 6: Panthers are in a really rough spot right now and

560
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 6: it's because of ownership.

561
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, don't don't tell me.

562
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: By the way, you didn't want to do this, you know,

563
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 5: I know Ian is just reporting what they were saying,

564
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: you know, he was saying, like this was not the plan.

565
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: He didn't want to do this. The hope was to

566
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 5: make it to the end of the season. No, you

567
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: did want to do this. You did it. It's literally

568
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 5: the earliest coach been fired in forty years. You fired

569
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: him faster than urban viral. You couldn't wait to do this,

570
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: So you did it.

571
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: And I don't. Well, he didn't want to do it,

572
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: but but then he.

573
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: Did want to do it, because he did it. You

574
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

575
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: He wanted them to be ten and one right now.

576
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things he wanted.

577
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: But this is not the context of like a couple

578
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, Oh, I don't, I don't want to

579
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 5: do it.

580
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: Just man up.

581
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: I wanted to do it. I made a mistake. I don't.

582
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: I don't even like hate that in a vacuum of

583
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: like you're at this point, we don't need to like

584
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 5: belabor that this isn't going to work. Let's move on.

585
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: It actually might help. I mean it helped last year

586
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: when they hired Steve Wilkes. That's why they fell down

587
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 5: to the ninth pick and had to trade up DJ

588
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: Moore and uh, the number one picked to get the

589
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 5: number one overall pick because he was so impatient last year.

590
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: If you had let matt rule play out the string,

591
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: you probably wouldn't have won all those games and you

592
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 5: wouldn't have traded all those picks. Let's just go over

593
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 5: some things that have happened with Tepper. He has a

594
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: half built facility in the middle of South Carolina. We

595
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: keep hearing how like, oh, he closes deals. Well, he

596
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: didn't close that. It's literally a half built building. He

597
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: wanted Deshaun Watson couldn't get him. That worked that well.

598
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: At least once they get the doors built on that facility,

599
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: they're going to close him.

600
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 5: Doors he wanted Matthew Stafford. Remember that they thought they

601
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: had Matthew Stafford.

602
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: They didn't.

603
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 5: They didn't close that. They traded Christian McCaffrey. They turned

604
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: down a couple high picks for Brian Burns last year.

605
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's just, uh, it's depressing.

606
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about uh the Panthers on Wednesday,

607
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: because guess what, we've been teasing this for a long time.

608
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: It's been in the works. There was a scrubbed pilot

609
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: edition of the program. A couple of weeks back that

610
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: was at an editorial error on our part. But this time

611
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: this week Wednesday, the premiere episode of Tepper B talking

612
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: and against stylized. That's Tepper Dash, the letter B capitalized

613
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: dash talking, no G at the end, just the apostrophe there,

614
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: Tepper B talking because he has a press conference ten

615
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: thirty am Eastern on Tuesday, and I should just get

616
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: before we move on. Special teams coach Chris Tabor has

617
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: been pointed as interim coach while offensive coordinator Thomas Brown,

618
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: who just he right gave Brown play calling duties and

619
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: then took them back, and now Reike's gone and he's

620
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: once again on the play calling duties with help from

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Speaker 1: senior assistant jim Caldell. Jimmy Caldwell still in the building.

622
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Speaker 1: Also let go, by the way, Josh McCown, who once

623
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: upon a time was being touted as a head coach

624
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: who didn't even need any experience. Just put him right

625
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: up there. He's canned. And also Do Stalley, a hard

626
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: knock star for the lines. Last year their running backs

627
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: coach who jumped ship went to Carolina and that was

628
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: a mistake. So a lot of mistakes being made around

629
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the Panthers at Giro.

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00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: Everro, who's a defensive coordinator, was also in the middle

631
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: of that Broncos mess last year when Hackett got fired

632
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: before the end of the season, So he has had

633
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: some tough luck in terms of the defenses he's coordinated.

634
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: We have both played well.

635
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: And you mentioned McCown wanted to skip right to the

636
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: head of the line and become a head coach without

637
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: any you know, college or professional experience. The same can

638
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 5: be said for Greg Olsen, the number one analyst in

639
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: the Fox booth, who's potentially getting bumped down to number

640
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 5: two if Tom Brady actually decides to broadcast and he

641
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: is letting it be known through a source close to

642
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 5: Greg Olsen, who you know, sounds a lot like Greg

643
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: Olsen to me from the outside that Greg Olson would

644
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: listen if David Tepper was interested in offering him the pandemic, he's.

645
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Trying to lure him with that, like stinky Dan Campbell cheese, listen,

646
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm a tight end. You like me. I connect with

647
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: the players. Okay, by the way, that is made if.

648
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell coach of the NFL for about eight years though,

649
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 5: before you go coach.

650
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Speaker 1: But you know that's major points for the side of

651
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: the coin, arguing Tom Brady's on his way to a

652
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: booth because Olson's already looking for a parachute. He's like,

653
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: I ain't dropping down to number two.

654
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Richard, coaching job, Richard Ditsche and Joe Person

655
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 5: this was a joint reporting. I should give them credit

656
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: for the athletic and Richard ditsch is their media journalist,

657
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: and he said that it looks like right now, yes, Brady,

658
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 5: you know that is probably gonna at least try it

659
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: for a year, and that in that scenario, Olsen would

660
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 5: be bumped down to number two.

661
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Oh isn't that a shame for you guys?

662
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: Mostly right now, right now, it's not. It hasn't happened.

663
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: You know, we'll see.

664
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 6: That is a disaster. By the way, because Olsen and

665
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: Burkehrd are excellent together, I don't wonder. I don't get

666
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 6: why Olsen would want to leave what he's doing right now,

667
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 6: where he is in a great spot, doing a great job,

668
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 6: to go take over a team in like disaster mode.

669
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

670
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 6: It feels very just Saturday ish to me.

671
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: But because he's butt hurt, because old Tommy Boy's riding

672
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: in to take his job.

673
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 6: Well, Creig and I have theories that you know that

674
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: Tom Brady may never take that job. But well, at

675
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 6: this point it sounds like, you know what, it took

676
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: a year off to study announcing.

677
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Please, I think we have sandwich props on that one.

678
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken.

679
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe, I believe we do. And uh, let's go.

680
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 5: Another angle is like John Lynch, he uses some outside

681
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: interest in returning to the league to leverage a nice

682
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: little raise there at Fox.

683
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: But we'll see, Okay.

684
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: In other news, Miles Garrett thought he heard a pop

685
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: in his shoulder in Sunday's loss to who Mark I'm

686
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: blanking on it.

687
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 6: The Denver Broncos.

688
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos. However, according to rap Sheet, the injury

689
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: is not believed to be serious. The shoulder quote checked out, okay,

690
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: and that is, you know, season saving for the Browns

691
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: because you know you could take away Nick Chubb and

692
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: somehow survive. You take away to Sean Watson and still

693
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: chug along. But if you take away the great Garrett,

694
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I think the jig is up. So hopefully he will

695
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: be healthy and his normal dominating self this week. Dorian

696
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson not so clear after he took that wicked

697
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: shot in Denver. That could mean mark more of the

698
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: other Cleveland quarterback, which we do not need to see

699
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: more of.

700
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 6: Well, I think I think it. I think the big

701
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 6: question is if they put Joe Flacco in there at

702
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 6: this point, who was wearing a It's very odd to me,

703
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 6: very odd to me to see Joe Flacco in a

704
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: Brown's hoodie on the sideline yesterday. That did not feel

705
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 6: right to me on any level. But you know, I

706
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 6: think if we were in a world where the MVP

707
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: race wasn't just simply like who the best quarterback is,

708
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: which it just that's all it is at this point,

709
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett is in that world, like for Cleveland in

710
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 6: the if you look at what he's done for the

711
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns, I think he's in that kind of you know,

712
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 6: space where he's won them games where I think in

713
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 6: the years past, like he's been more of a T. J.

714
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 6: Wattish type character this year where he's had major, like

715
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 6: an incredible impact game. After game yesterday, he watching him,

716
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 6: he couldn't lift his left arm at all, like they

717
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 6: were trying to, like teammates were attempting to give him

718
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 6: a high five. He had to switch his body around

719
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 6: high five with his right hand. So I thought like

720
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 6: we were gonna get devastating news today. So this is

721
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 6: quite a boon for the Browns, who you're right without

722
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett, check you, lator.

723
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: We can't have Joe Flacco on the field in twenty

724
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: twenty three.

725
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 5: Right across the sidewalk, we actually might all have to go.

726
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 4: We might have to Joe Flacco. He is the old

727
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: meaningful game too. They're seven and four. The Rams are

728
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: trying to get in the middle.

729
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I had to watch Joe flacko on games I counted

730
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: last year for my team. Joe Flacco can throw, still

731
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: throw a tight spiral as many old dads can. But

732
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: that man is the ultimate Stone age pony in the pocket,

733
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: and even worse, if you even sniff around him in

734
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: the pocket, if he gets a little bit money muddy,

735
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: that ball goes flying. I'm I still stick to the

736
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: theory I was sharing with you yesterday in the newsroom,

737
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: Mark that Flacco doesn't want to play. He's like, no,

738
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: I just I missed the guys. I I miss being

739
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: in the buildings, I missed the meetings, the camaraderie, but

740
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: don't put me in.

741
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 6: No, he looked very comfortable, just sort of like hanging

742
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: out in street clothes, you know, as part of the collection,

743
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 6: part of the crew. Suddenly you're in a game where

744
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 6: you're getting like destroyed by like a pound defensive end.

745
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: No, just getting smoked by guys born in two thousand

746
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: and two.

747
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: And it's just like we're not Donald Donald, Aaron Donald, Like, yeah,

748
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 5: come meet Aaron Donald four days from now.

749
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 6: That'll be fun.

750
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: And think about it. Like with with Flacco, he's Johnny

751
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: and iis biopic fell through and at this point he

752
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: already thought he would be you know, knee deep in

753
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: his Hollywood career, and since that never took off, he's

754
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: just looking to fill the void. And that's just being

755
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: in buildings and being around the guys, being in love.

756
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 6: I will tell you I've mentioned poor but like in

757
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 6: the when we went to the Super Bowl in New

758
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 6: York and on you know that night, as we were

759
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 6: leaving were I think we're the last people to leave

760
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 6: that stadium, it started to snow and Greg had verbal

761
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 6: words with our taxi driver who tried to like get

762
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 6: gas in the middle of that trip, and overcharge us.

763
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 6: But the next day it was snowing pretty heavily and

764
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 6: I was walking down the street Cider Hotel and Joe

765
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 6: Flacco like came out of a you know, swinging door,

766
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 6: and it was like like other quarterbacks that you just

767
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: think on the sideline look like average dudes. Like he

768
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 6: was a strapping, like handsome man. So he's ten times

769
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: cooler in person than you'd think just by looking at

770
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 6: him in a hoodie on the sideline. So we'll see.

771
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 6: But him on the Browns makes no sense. No, but

772
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 6: him on the Browns makes no sense. Rights one of

773
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 6: the most jarring bizarre things that makes no like.

774
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it's almost as weird as Carson Wentz taking

775
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: snaps through the Rams on Sunday. They didn't let him

776
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: throw the ball, but they just watching him run out

777
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: onto the field. What if we saw I mean, I

778
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: do not want Matthew Stafford to get hurt or anything,

779
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: but maybe he has to go to the bathroom for

780
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: a second. We see a little Wentz versus Flacco in

781
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three.

782
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: I know we should move on, but I don't know

783
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: how many more times we're gonna have a chance to

784
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: talk about Joe Flacco, super Bowl forty seven super Dome.

785
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: The Ravens have just pulled it off, and Joe Flacco

786
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: just won Super Bowl MVP after one of the greatest

787
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: postseason runs by any quarterback ever. It happened. Look it

788
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: up and Mark, you and I snuck on the field

789
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: at the Superdome, was right before they did that thing

790
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: where you have to scan your badge to get onto

791
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: the field, and we kind of remember, we ducked through

792
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: these curtains because the Superdome, you know, it's kind of

793
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: a dump in some respects, and they didn't have a

794
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: they didn't have it secure, so we kind of snuck

795
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: through these curtains. Got on the field right after the

796
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: game with the confetti and the cannons and the celebrations

797
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: all around us, and there's Joe Flacco and next to

798
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: him is one of his brothers, and Joe looks taps

799
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: his brother on the shoulder in like a quiet moment

800
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: during the celebration after they did the Riser stuff and

801
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: pointed out this beautiful two thousand and thirteen or twenty

802
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: fourteen Corvette that was given to him for being the

803
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. And he goes, hey, that's my car.

804
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Let's be cool to be a quarterback and

805
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: have success. All right, let's move on. That's my car.

806
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: Maybe the best half of football, it is my answer

807
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 5: for the first half of that game is the best

808
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 5: half I've ever seen any quarterback play in person.

809
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: Period. It's n even close. It's it was outrageous.

810
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: So Garrett expected to play Sunday. DT are uncertain shack

811
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: loss and brutally frustrating a loss for the Bills on Sunday.

812
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: And imagine a loss like that, and then you're in

813
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: Philly with all those fans everywhere there and they're giving

814
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: you a hard time. He ends up lost in He

815
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: got caught on video in a confrontation with fans during

816
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: that game, and you know, I actually didn't have a

817
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: chance to take a look at this, but he did

818
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: apologize and say he respects the game and he respects

819
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: his opponents. He was giving his side of the story

820
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: that before the game there was a fan behind our

821
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: making life threatening remarks towards us and our families. Whoever

822
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: you are, Bradley Cooper, you gotta cut that out, all right,

823
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: this is just football. But anyway, there was lines that

824
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't be crossed lost and said and they were and

825
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, so obviously a very emotional situation, and he

826
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't have used hands. But I could see it too.

827
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: I have a feeling that the NFL will react strongly to

828
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 5: this because it's on video. If it wasn't on video,

829
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: which no one had heard about it until you know,

830
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch it, post it on Twitter. You know, no,

831
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 5: he wouldn't have gotten punished. But this is this is

832
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: the NFL's nightmare, as him getting right in his face,

833
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: right right in the front row as the game ended.

834
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 5: I wonder if the fan came down even in further

835
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 5: or if he was there the whole time.

836
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 4: Oh, it's an ugly scene.

837
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now. Did he bumped him?

838
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 5: It looks like they were like in each other's face.

839
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 5: You can't really tell from that angle. Maybe there was

840
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: a little pushing, but thankful it didn't go further.

841
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: By the way, that fan sucks whoever you are, you sucked, course, yeah,

842
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: of course, I mean it's a very it's a high

843
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: stress environment, an emotional game. You are there to watch

844
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: the game, not taunt the players and try to get

845
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: a reaction that you suck. Anyway, Alvin Kamara with Greg

846
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: set up this Salvin Kamara quote because the Saints are

847
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: in very desperate straits right now. It doesn't seem like

848
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: anything on either side of the ball is particularly noteworthy.

849
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: But it's the offense especially that is in the crosshairs,

850
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: an offense that has been failing miserably in the red zone,

851
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: and everything is hard and the quarterback is not getting

852
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: it done, and neither is anyone else. Really, here's uh

853
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: tell us about the Kamara words.

854
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Cabert has been an interesting person to listen

855
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: to this year because he's clearly just frustrated. I think

856
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: it's not too hard to read between the lines of

857
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 5: the leadership that you know, there's some liking of tweets

858
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: from Michael Thomas that would maybe indicate like they're not

859
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 5: thrilled with the quarterback either and the coach. But in

860
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 5: this case, I thought he very pointingly in a way

861
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 5: that you don't hear a coach or a player almost

862
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: call out directly his head coach in terms of the

863
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: words that his head coach uses. And he did that

864
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 5: after the game on Sunday. Now, this clip is from

865
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Speaker 5: Nick Underhill site New Orleans Football but it's a special

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Speaker 5: edited clip from a guy on Twitter, Nola Flint at

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Speaker 5: e f l y n T, and he had a

868
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 5: little fun cutting it up.

869
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: Let's listen to it.

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00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 10: Just I don't know if we need to find a

871
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 10: real fix, not just oh, we got to be better,

872
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 10: because that's you wanna be better every week. That's obvious. Right,

873
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 10: Let's let's get past that. We already know we got

874
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 10: to be better. How are we gonna get better? What

875
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 10: are we going to do to get better?

876
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: One day? Laydell?

877
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I mean does it need to be better? Yes,

878
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 9: you know I'd be the first one to stand up

879
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 9: here and tell you that it needs to be that

880
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 9: it needs to be better. And it really hadn't been

881
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 9: quite where we needed to be in the last couple

882
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 9: of years. So it's going to continue to be an

883
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 9: area that we'll that we'll address and try to work

884
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 9: on and try to be better at.

885
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: I don't know if we could use all that, but

886
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 5: he literally said, I'm sick of hearing you say we

887
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: got to be better. Tell us how to be better?

888
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 5: How are we going to be better? This is a

889
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 5: man Kamara that was coached by Sean Payton, who I

890
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 5: think is very good on the details, the small details

891
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 5: of the game, and that's where the Saints are struggling

892
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 5: twenty ninth in the red zone, all sorts of penalties,

893
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 5: and he's like, give us some answers.

894
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: We're not getting answers.

895
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 6: I feel like the Saints, like this offseason kind of

896
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 6: made it clear outside of you know, attempting to try

897
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 6: to convince us that Derek Carr was going to help things,

898
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 6: that they were very content with winning eight to nine games,

899
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: and Dennis Allen was sort of like the signal in

900
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 6: the in the symbol of that, and like, I can't

901
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 6: imagine a team that could have more changes coming this offseason.

902
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 6: I could see a lot of transition.

903
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean we talked about it, we

904
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: did the what you people don't realize we are going

905
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: to see a lot of turnover in head coaches. We've

906
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: already now seen two go by the boards and we

907
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: just crossed Thanksgiving. There are gonna be you know, potentially

908
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: ten changes here by the time we get to January.

909
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: It could be one of those real bloodbath years.

910
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: NFC Southfield's like one coach survives basically, like whoever wins

911
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 5: the division, you keep your job. Maybe Arthur Smith could

912
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: keep it if you like when eight and nine and

913
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: didn't win the division. I don't know, but I don't

914
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 5: think that's the way it's gonna work.

915
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Imagine like having your dream job that you fought your

916
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: whole life for and it's coming down to whether Desmond

917
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: Ritter can get you across the finish line at eight

918
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: and nine. That sounds very stressful. That sounds like an

919
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: ulcer waiting to happen. Injury news, Well, no, let's let's

920
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: hit some Raiders news. They cut Marcus Peters, the veteran cornerback.

921
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: He had to pick six a couple weeks ago and

922
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: was playing for them, but they had a team meeting.

923
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: They had a meeting with him and he was due

924
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: I believe a million and a half in cent of

925
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: money if he played the rest of the season, and

926
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: I think that played a role in the decision to

927
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: part ways, as the Raiders obviously are not contending right now.

928
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: Roderick teamer, he gets a DUI on a game day,

929
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: so he gets cut as well.

930
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe Peters ends up with his old Ravens team.

931
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: They could use a corner back and.

932
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Then he would play like he was twenty six. Again,

933
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: I could see it. The Jags put left tackle Cam

934
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: Robinson on injured reserve. Dolphins left tackle Toront arms said

935
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: is week to week. We'll see where he comes down

936
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: health wise and anything on that.

937
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: Boys, well, I feel like every couple of weeks we

938
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 5: have our like wow, toront Armstead. They're just not the

939
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: same without him. And Saints Fanson kind of mentioned like

940
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: this was their experience with him too. Great guy, but

941
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: almost never plays more than eight to ten games and

942
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 5: they really aren't the same offense without him. And that's

943
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 5: a big loss for the Jaguars too. They're starting left

944
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: tackle even though they have some good depth there.

945
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: And finally, uh Joe Shane he uh came out and

946
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: did a press conference. He's the general manager of the

947
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: New York Giants, and he has said something that I

948
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: guess raised eyebrows. It did little a little bit less

949
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: for me, and we could talk about it. After listening

950
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: in on his words today, I think.

951
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 11: We're gonna have to do something in the quarterback, whether

952
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 11: it's free agency or or the draft. I mean, just

953
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 11: where we are, Tyrod's contracts up, you know, Devido is

954
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 11: obviously on our contract, and Daniel you know, we don't

955
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 11: know when he's gonna be ready, So you know, just

956
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 11: from an off season program standpoint, you know, I think

957
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 11: that'll be a position that we'll We'll have to look again.

958
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 11: There's different avenues free agency or the draft, but we'll

959
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 11: have to address it at some point.

960
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: It was also said by Shane that the expectation is

961
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Daniel Jones will be the starter went healthy. But listen,

962
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for a while. That's that's what

963
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: they They almost always say, and they that and that

964
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: allows you to kind of cover yourself and also, uh,

965
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: you don't have you don't get accused of lying because

966
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: in the moment you're saying the expectation is that he's

967
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: our starter. But then you go through an off season

968
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: where you check out what's in the free agency market,

969
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: the trade market, and the draft market, and it could

970
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: be very different. I'd be surprised, quite frankly, if the

971
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: Giants end up with a top five pick and don't

972
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on a QB.

973
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 6: I don't think you can go into next season if

974
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 6: you're Brian Dieble trying to sell Daniel Jones to the

975
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 6: fan base or to yourself. I think it's like, you know,

976
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: they came out of a year where he was the

977
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: most productive version of Daniel Jones and got the contract.

978
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 6: But it's like they're gonna be in position to draft someone.

979
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 6: There gonna be a number of quarterbacks that are available

980
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 6: via trade, and it's like he'll at least have intense

981
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 6: competition for the starting job because I'm not convinced he's

982
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: a reliable starter on any level.

983
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 5: Well, their win, you know, we talked about it on Sunday,

984
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 5: was really potentially huge for their draft position. And then

985
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 5: the Bears winning tonight is another team. There's quite a

986
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: bit of separation now between the top three picks. Carolina

987
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 5: at one win obviously that's the Bears pick, and then

988
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 5: the Cardinals and Patriots at two wins. Everyone else, including

989
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 5: your Jets as four wins, so the Jets are even

990
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 5: in the mix for like a top five pick at

991
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: this point. There's a lot of teams, but there's a

992
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 5: operation there like Arizona and the Patriots, and then the

993
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: Bears are a pretty strong one two three right now

994
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: and they would all have to win multiple games to

995
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 5: fall out.

996
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Of that if the season ended today. I'm on the

997
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: Great Tankathon Dot com it would be top five would

998
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: be Chicago from Carolina, Arizona, New England, Chicago again, Washington.

999
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you the top ten Giants at six, Tampa Bay, seven, Jets,

1000
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: eight Chargers, nine, Tennessee ten where things stand right now.

1001
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 5: And yeah, picks four through ten, I'll have four wins,

1002
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 5: So get excited.

1003
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: How about that, Greg? How about that that week eighteen

1004
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: Jets at Patriots. That's a wild one because the Jets,

1005
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: it's probably the Jets last chance to beat Bill beat

1006
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, which they, outside of one miraculous playoff win,

1007
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: could never do. And the Patriots need to lose that

1008
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: game most likely. But they literally can't lose to the Jets.

1009
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: They've been trying to lose to the Jets for a

1010
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: couple of years now. They still can't.

1011
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 5: Right, they can't beat the Giants, no matter who who

1012
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: they threw out there, and they can't lose to the Jets.

1013
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: And and I thought, I just from you know, I

1014
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 5: would have guessed that would have been one of those

1015
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: fans that could actually root against, you know, the team

1016
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: I grew up rooting for in a situation like this,

1017
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 5: because I do know it would be better, I really

1018
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 5: do want one of those quarterbacks that would get me excited.

1019
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 5: But when it came down to I can't root against

1020
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 5: the team when they're on the field against the Giants,

1021
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 5: they still wanted them to win until the game's over.

1022
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: And then you're like, especially the Giants, Yeah, especially the Giants,

1023
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 5: but until the game's over, but really any of the games.

1024
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 5: And then you're like, Okay, actually, now that that's a

1025
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: half hour old, that's probably good that that actually happened.

1026
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 4: But how can you root against your own team?

1027
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Can I just double back? Mark? I can't.

1028
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: I came too strong there. I feel like the Daniel

1029
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: Jones things maybe has a little more. God, they just

1030
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: gave him this huge contract and the whole season was

1031
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: a lost season. He gets hurt. Are they gonna bail

1032
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: on him? I know there's only one year guaranteed money

1033
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: left beyond this year. Yeah, also Dabel is Now if

1034
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: Dabel really does like Jones, and I would imagine he

1035
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: liked him a lot because he had to be fully

1036
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: on board, you would imagine, or yeah.

1037
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 6: With no, I don't I don't think there's I don't

1038
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 6: like it. First of all, like the kind of the

1039
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 6: contract is what for they're tied to him for one

1040
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 6: more year. I think it just depends what other opportunities

1041
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 6: come up, like Brian Dable after this season. I mean,

1042
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 6: assuming it just continues in the skittish fashion that it's

1043
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 6: been in, Like you're coaching for your job next year,

1044
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 6: Like do you tie your job to Daniel Jones? I

1045
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 6: would not. I would he did.

1046
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm saying is three months ago or

1047
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: whatever he was perfectly comfortable with it, or four months

1048
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: ago when they whenever the contract was handed out, at

1049
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: did they did he lose the faith of the team

1050
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: that quickly? I guess it's certainly, certainly. And maybe they're

1051
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: trying to thread the needle Greggy. Maybe they're they're looking

1052
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: at like the old, the old Chargers model, and it's like, well,

1053
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: we got Drew Brees here, but let's draft Philip Rivers

1054
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: and then if Drew Brees plays, well, we could trade

1055
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: him and then give Phil. You know, maybe they're hoping

1056
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: they can maybe Jones is still involved next year and

1057
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: then they have a backup ready to roll either way.

1058
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1059
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they want to be ready.

1060
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 5: I think they will absolutely get a quarterback if at

1061
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 5: all possible. But if they have the sixth pick, are

1062
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: they going to maybe trade picks up to get a quarterback? No,

1063
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: Then having Dania Jones maybe changes that and we'll see

1064
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 5: what veterans are available. But I always thought, as as

1065
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: I usually do with quarterbacks and the Giants, that ownership

1066
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 5: was involved, and in that contract, I think they were big.

1067
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 5: They're big fans of Daniel Jones getting that thing over

1068
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: the finish line. And and it's only one more year,

1069
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 5: and this year could not have been any worse Dan.

1070
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 5: I mean that if he had this year a year ago,

1071
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 5: it's not like it would have been a decision, you

1072
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

1073
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: So, and he's coming off in ACL. I don't know.

1074
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Danny Dimes guy, And I always

1075
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: thought it was a little weird that, like the last

1076
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: four games in a playoff game before the Eagles loss,

1077
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: that's really what got him paid when he got hot there,

1078
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I thought, more than anything else, it always seemed weird

1079
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: that he got the deal. But I don't know they

1080
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: got a big decision to make anything else, boys.

1081
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 6: Not particularly for me.

1082
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: Has the Christmas parade ended?

1083
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: Mark? Yeah? What did you get into your apartment? Mark?

1084
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 6: Eleven something eleven something like, you know.

1085
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: You could have like parked like a mile away and

1086
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 5: then like walked or something like that. I could have

1087
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: if he really needed to get back for some reason.

1088
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 4: Right.

1089
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 6: Right, But this was a disaster, So I am, what's up?

1090
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. I don't know this because I

1091
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: don't produce, But could Mark have like jumped on on

1092
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: his phone from the car if he's anyway, if you

1093
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: really like cared?

1094
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I mean yeah, it's definitely a possibility. I

1095
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 12: don't want to throw you under the bus, but I

1096
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 12: think I want to say we had Bonetta on her

1097
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 12: phone at one point in.

1098
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: The Friday last year to.

1099
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Established but.

1100
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 12: I've been in the Hollywood area he signal out there.

1101
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 12: It probably would have been a nightmare and it would

1102
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 12: have just created a problem. So I will give him that.

1103
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 12: So yeah, well it could have been done. Eric, Sorry,

1104
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 12: sorry Mark, Thank you?

1105
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 9: Eric.

1106
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 6: Uh, we'll talk to you later. Have a nice night,

1107
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 6: all right, everybody, have a nice night.

1108
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: We'll be back. Check out NFL Plus where we broke

1109
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: down Eagles bills, and we'll be back Wednesday. It's Connie

1110
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: Fox Wednesdays. Uh, and the premiere episode of Yes Tepper

1111
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: be talking. Uh so you can't miss that till then

1112
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: eat the car people,