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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 1: We have made it to the NBA Finals, which means
Speaker 1: we have made it through another full NBA season and
Speaker 1: number one, I thank you all for continuing to tune
Speaker 1: in to The Draymond Green Show. Our listeners, subscribers, viewers
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for the support. Means the world.
Speaker 1: Hope you keep coming and I'll continue to try to
Speaker 1: provide you with great analysis, and even more so than
Speaker 1: great analysis, just a great time. But as I said,
Speaker 1: it's NBA Finals week. We got a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about getting to the NBA Finals. It is also some
Speaker 1: other stuff going around going on around the NBA, the
Speaker 1: w NBA, sports media as a whole, and we will
Speaker 1: get into some of that stuff. Caitlin Clark, Kennedy, Carter
Speaker 1: Angel Reese like, we will get into that. So but
Speaker 1: before we get into all of that stuff, this is
Speaker 1: your NBA Finals preview and we will talk about the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. We got the Boston Celtics versus Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics are a favorite. Dallas Mavericks is motivated, feel
Speaker 1: like they belong, feel like this is an opportunity for
Speaker 1: them to get back over the hump first time since
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, Boston first time, well, Boston has been to
Speaker 1: the finals all twenty twenty two, but trying to get
Speaker 1: over the Hump for the first time since two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. Jackson's right there, smart the big smile on
Speaker 1: his face. Two thousand and eight was a great year.
Speaker 1: As you all know, I can't really give a shit
Speaker 1: to see anything happens happen good to Boston other than
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, love Drew, got love for JB. But I
Speaker 1: just hate Boston Celtics, hate Boston. Just rude people, ruth fans,
Speaker 1: rude people. They're pretty silent when we go there these days.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so two thousand and eight was the last time. Now,
Speaker 1: that was a great year. I must say. I graduated
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, so I'm not necessarily against
Speaker 1: the year. But you know, anyway, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So Boston Celtics versus the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 3: What are some of the keys to this matchup? Number one?
Speaker 1: Obviously you got Luca, you got Kyrie versus j T
Speaker 1: and JB.
Speaker 3: Like that is the billing. That's what all the hype
Speaker 3: about this duo.
Speaker 1: It's that duo and which one of the duos is
Speaker 1: going to come through this time.
Speaker 3: I think it's very exciting that.
Speaker 1: A new champion is going to be crowned like you're
Speaker 1: going to see I mean you do, got old Kyrie
Speaker 1: sitting there champion already, but we're going to see either
Speaker 1: Luka Doncis get his first ring, or we're going to
Speaker 1: see JT. And also on the other side, by the way,
Speaker 1: excuse me, you got old champion Drew Holliday sitting over there.
Speaker 1: And so there are a couple champions, very important champions
Speaker 1: playing in the series, but there are also some guys,
Speaker 1: as we know, looking for their first championship ring. And man,
Speaker 1: that first championship ring, I must tell you, just getting
Speaker 1: over that hump to experience that feeling, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: an experience like no other, Like I will never forget
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and that closing bill, I mean that that
Speaker 1: closing buzzer coming, and like standing there with Steph and
Speaker 1: I will never forget that We're both just standing there
Speaker 1: looking at each other, yelling what like what.
Speaker 3: Like what? And he tossed the ball up and we hugged.
Speaker 3: And Wow, the feeling.
Speaker 1: That you get, I mean, it's it's unlike any feeling
Speaker 1: that you've ever felt before in your life. Like you
Speaker 1: get that feeling, you go through that feeling, you experience
Speaker 1: it and you quickly realize, like.
Speaker 3: Yo, this is different, like.
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen up there, this is this is different.
Speaker 3: Oh I got something.
Speaker 1: Else from twenty fifteen too, Yeah, there's twenty fifteen right there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you quickly realize like this is this is
Speaker 1: a different feeling than I've ever felt before in my life.
Speaker 1: And you go through the emotions and you have a blast,
Speaker 1: and you try taking it all in and you go
Speaker 1: take your pictures and you party and morgans like we
Speaker 1: did standing on top of tables in Cleveland, you know you,
Speaker 1: And then you go home and you party, and you
Speaker 1: parade and go to Vegas, and for about a month
Speaker 1: you kind of or two months, you kind of got
Speaker 1: like this or around you that everybody knows like, yo,
Speaker 1: this dude is on like cloud nine.
Speaker 3: And with that orr.
Speaker 1: You also kind of got like a past to go
Speaker 1: into the world and do whatever the hell you want
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna say a thing for like a couple
Speaker 1: of months.
Speaker 3: Take that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: Obviously, got to be a good citizen, but you get
Speaker 1: the point and and experiencing that feeling and saying that
Speaker 1: people are like looking at you and they think you
Speaker 1: crazy and out of your goddamn mind and they can't
Speaker 1: really make out like something's up with this dude. They
Speaker 1: can't really make it out. And while they can't make
Speaker 1: it out, you just kind of floating, and only someone
Speaker 1: that's a champion knows like kind of what you're going through.
Speaker 3: Funny, oddly enough, in twenty.
Speaker 1: Sixteen, I had the opportunity to play for the USA
Speaker 1: team and win a gold medal. Kyrie Irvan was my teammate.
Speaker 1: It's Kyrie Irvans' first ring, Kyrie Irvings's.
Speaker 3: Only ring, and.
Speaker 1: Kyrie kind of came around the USA team and I
Speaker 1: remember a couple guys like, yo, what you own like
Speaker 1: just and I told then, I say, yo, he's like
Speaker 1: on this cloud, like experiencing something that like you can't
Speaker 1: even imagine feeling, and he's just.
Speaker 3: Gonna live in his own world for a while. Just
Speaker 3: let him do what he do.
Speaker 1: And Kyle came up to me smiled and laughing, like
Speaker 1: you know exactly what it is, like, you know, And
Speaker 1: I'm like I get it, Like that's why I'm telling them,
Speaker 1: like it's cool, like he gonna just let him do
Speaker 1: what he do, and.
Speaker 3: That feeling is what we're going to.
Speaker 1: Get the opportunity to see from one of these teams,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see which one that it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: I think Boston's biggest edge in this series is that
Speaker 1: at any given moment, Al Horford can go off for
Speaker 1: twenty plus. We obviously know Drew's capable of going off
Speaker 1: for twenty thirty, Derek White and obviously for Zingers back,
Speaker 1: and obviously we know what JT and and JB is
Speaker 1: capable of. But I think them having so many guys
Speaker 1: that can get off, it's a huge ask for them
Speaker 1: in this series.
Speaker 3: Now, one would say that could also be.
Speaker 1: Your biggest downside as well, because if you remember back
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two Game one of the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: we lost that game at home versus the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: And when we lost that game at home versus the
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics, Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derek White combined.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, if my mind draws me, if
Speaker 1: I can drog my mind correctly, my mind serves me
Speaker 1: the right way. Almost positive, those three guys combined sixteen
Speaker 1: for twenty one from three and when they combined sixteen
Speaker 1: for twenty one from three, and I was getting blasted
Speaker 1: and badgered for doing this very podcast right here during
Speaker 1: the series, I remember, I vividly remember saying, if Al Horford,
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart, and Derrick White is gonna go sixteen for
Speaker 1: twenty one from three to beat us, we will be
Speaker 1: just fine.
Speaker 3: And yet and very truly we were just fine.
Speaker 1: And so I say that to say that can also
Speaker 1: be a downside because sometimes you get then your stars,
Speaker 1: I e. Jason Tatum, I'll Jaylen Brown get the overly
Speaker 1: looking for those guys.
Speaker 3: And the reality is.
Speaker 1: When you're when those stars.
Speaker 3: Like that Luca Kyrie, you.
Speaker 1: Know, are getting off the like the demoralizing effect that
Speaker 1: it has on another team's defense, when your game plan
Speaker 1: is built to stop those guys, the demoralizing effect that
Speaker 1: it has. It's totally different than Draymond Green going off
Speaker 1: for thirty or was it in game thirty three fifteen
Speaker 1: to nine in Game seven of the NBA Finals, Like
Speaker 1: that thirty three is as great as it was. If
Speaker 1: Steph Curry is getting that, it is doing something different
Speaker 1: to the defense because when he starts doing what he's
Speaker 1: doing and getting that thirty three, the way the defense reacts.
Speaker 3: Then opens everyone else up.
Speaker 1: However, if it's me getting the thirty three, the defense
Speaker 1: is ultimately not going to overreact and they're just like, well,
Speaker 1: he's going to have to beat us, and so it
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily get anyone else going. And when you look
Speaker 1: at stars, that's where their biggest their biggest help, their
Speaker 1: biggest like that is where their biggest role is not
Speaker 1: only to get themselves involved, but what can everybody else
Speaker 1: get off those stars? And when you when all you
Speaker 1: people start naming like stars in the NBA and like
Speaker 1: no one else can get off them like lo and behold,
Speaker 1: they're not fucking stars. Like and we you know, we
Speaker 1: live in this day of social media and all this
Speaker 1: where like everybody wants to make everyone a star, and
Speaker 1: the reality is it's like there's not that many stars
Speaker 1: in the NBA.
Speaker 3: There just isn't.
Speaker 1: And so back to my original point, when you're going
Speaker 1: for thirty three, fifteen and nine in the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: are that's great and like, I'm having a great game
Speaker 1: and I'm getting off. But the reality is if that
Speaker 1: stuff doing that, Draymond Green is going to get a
Speaker 1: wide open slip layup because the defense is going to
Speaker 1: overreact and three guys going to go with him and
Speaker 1: you get a slip and you get a layup, and
Speaker 1: the way those things then demoralizes a team and gets
Speaker 1: out a team because you're already not stopping step and
Speaker 1: now we're all eating off him.
Speaker 3: And what that does to a team is it kills them.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: I said all of that to say, as much as
Speaker 1: that could be Boston's biggest strength, it could also be
Speaker 1: their biggest letdown.
Speaker 3: It could also.
Speaker 1: Be one of their biggest flaws because those guys could
Speaker 1: get comfortable with swinging it to those guys and like, oh,
Speaker 1: he got open shot, let him take, And what that's
Speaker 1: doing to the defense. If JB isn't getting off as
Speaker 1: j If JT isn't getting off, it's a totally different thing.
Speaker 1: Now obviously we run a totally different offense. That's a
Speaker 1: different thing. It does not matter. So obviously we know
Speaker 1: we need those two guys to play well, but ultimately.
Speaker 3: We need the role.
Speaker 1: Players to play great, like you need those guys to
Speaker 1: be extraordinary. But I go back to Game one in
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, sixteen, one of those years, Sean
Speaker 1: Livson myself was getting off and Steph had a rough
Speaker 1: night that night, and we lost, and we were getting
Speaker 1: off we lost, you.
Speaker 3: Know, And so.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, like you definitely need your
Speaker 1: stars to get off. Now we'll get into like whose
Speaker 1: stars is going to get off more of what they
Speaker 1: need to provide which team needs it most, and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But that is what I think their biggest
Speaker 1: attribute or you know, the best thing for Boston in
Speaker 1: this series will be on the offensive man on the
Speaker 1: defensive end, I think it's the ability to switch. But
Speaker 1: more importantly, I think it's the ability to throw multiple
Speaker 1: defenders at Kyrie and Luca. Like j B will spend
Speaker 1: some time on Kyrie. JB will spend some time on Luca.
Speaker 1: Drew will spend some time on Kyrie. Drew will spend
Speaker 1: some time on Luca. Derek White will spend some time
Speaker 1: on Kyrie a little small not sure how much on Luca,
Speaker 1: but the moral of the story and JT j T
Speaker 1: can spend a little time on both of those guys
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: So the moral of the story is being having an.
Speaker 1: Opportunity or the ability to throw multiple defenders at great
Speaker 1: players I think always helps because it gives them a
Speaker 1: different look. You got fresh legs, fresh air legs, it's
Speaker 1: a different thing. And so I think the Celtics having
Speaker 1: that ability is their biggest attribute defensive now liability from
Speaker 1: liability standpoint. Defensively, you got two of the best guards
Speaker 1: in the pick and roll versus our Horford, who we've
Speaker 1: seen struggle and defensively in the pick and roll. You
Speaker 1: know Dallas is going to exploit that and go at
Speaker 1: that and go at that.
Speaker 3: Now, what I think we're all.
Speaker 1: Anticipating is Dallas switching every I mean, excuse me, Boston
Speaker 1: switching everything. What I anticipate is Boston switching everything and
Speaker 1: stay home.
Speaker 3: When our Horford comes.
Speaker 1: They're going to switch everything with Al and then I
Speaker 1: think they'll sent a double team.
Speaker 3: That's what I kind of expect. Now, will that.
Speaker 1: Necessarily happen, I don't know, we'll see, but I think
Speaker 1: we'll be able to expect some of that at some
Speaker 1: point in the game because they're going to switch. And
Speaker 1: like you gotta imagine, if they're just switching and lowing
Speaker 1: up box and eelbows and you got Kyrie and Luca
Speaker 1: on an island with Al Horford, I can't just see
Speaker 1: them letting that play out. Like when you get to
Speaker 1: this level, to this point, you don't get there by
Speaker 1: just letting things play out. You got to impose your
Speaker 1: will on the other team. And so I don't just
Speaker 1: I can't foresee Boston just sitting there and watching how
Speaker 1: that plays out, like we know how that's going to
Speaker 1: play out. And then you also think you got Porzingis
Speaker 1: coming back, which helps defensively. The only problem is he's
Speaker 1: been out since April twenty ninth, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: people seem to think like.
Speaker 3: That don't matter.
Speaker 1: And like for a guy who has not played very much,
Speaker 1: very much, much meaningful basketball at all, and you think
Speaker 1: he's just going to walk back into the conference finals,
Speaker 1: excuse me, the NBA finals. I don't quite understand how
Speaker 1: that's going to work.
Speaker 3: So that's a bit confusing to me.
Speaker 1: From a conditioning standpoint, from a speed of the game standpoint,
Speaker 1: from a physicality standpoint, this is the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: It is very very very physical.
Speaker 1: Adjusting to the physicality, like I said, adjusting to the
Speaker 1: speed of everything, adjusting to the way we do things
Speaker 1: during the playoffs, because the reality is you really haven't
Speaker 1: played in the playoff, not much elsewhere, and definitely not
Speaker 1: much this year. So those are some of the things
Speaker 1: that I think you have to worry about with Porzingis,
Speaker 1: and like you know, don't overly be relying on him
Speaker 1: coming back, because that's a tough, tough, tall task that
Speaker 1: he's being asked to carry out.
Speaker 3: If I am.
Speaker 1: I am literally thinking and believing that I are not believing,
Speaker 1: I am literally thinking the old Bill Belichick adage, which
Speaker 1: is make them play left handed. Bill Belichick says that, like,
Speaker 1: for instance, here, if Randy Moss was your top receiver,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick wasn't gonna let Randy Moss bechre. He's gonna
Speaker 1: double Randy Moss everywhere he went and make you beat
Speaker 1: him with some other receiver, Like make them play left handed,
Speaker 1: make them do something else other than what it is
Speaker 1: that we know they can do and really want to do.
Speaker 1: And Boston is a very patterned team with all of
Speaker 1: their sets pretty much to get everyone to their right hand.
Speaker 1: With the exception of Adam Drew, who is a more
Speaker 1: dominant left hand driver, everyone wants to get to their
Speaker 1: right hand. So I'm literally in my mind thinking I
Speaker 1: have to make these guys play left handed, meaning I
Speaker 1: know they want to get everything to the right side
Speaker 1: of the floor.
Speaker 3: Can I force them to the left side of the floor.
Speaker 1: If I'm forcing them to the left side of the floor,
Speaker 1: my help does not need to be.
Speaker 3: As tight as it needs to be.
Speaker 1: If if they're getting to the right side of the
Speaker 1: floor to their dominant hands. In turn, if my help
Speaker 1: does not need to be as compact because they're going
Speaker 1: to their weaker hands, then I'm allowed to better stay
Speaker 1: home with shooters. And that is how you take the
Speaker 1: our Horfords at the game, the Derek Whites at the game.
Speaker 1: Even Drew Holliday has been shooting the ball lights out
Speaker 1: off the catch. Peyton Pritchard, you know, that's how you
Speaker 1: get him out of the series to where he can't
Speaker 1: play Sam Hauser. That is how you get him out
Speaker 1: of the series to where he can't play our Horford.
Speaker 1: Our Horford shoots the lights out of the ball these days,
Speaker 1: christops Porzingis and shoot the ball. So that is how
Speaker 1: you get those guys out of the game. By simply
Speaker 1: making these guys play left handed, I don't have to
Speaker 1: help as much because they're not as dominant going to
Speaker 1: their left hands, which allows me to control the three
Speaker 1: point shooting. We know Boston is a great three point
Speaker 1: shooting team, and they will look to get them up
Speaker 1: to negate that we make these guys get to their
Speaker 1: weaker hands and I don't have to send as much help.
Speaker 1: And if I can do that gives me a much
Speaker 1: better chance of competing with the Boston Celtics. So if
Speaker 1: I'm if, I'm if I'm Dallas, that is what I
Speaker 1: am thinking from a defensive perspective. From an offensive perspective, yes,
Speaker 1: we do know Kyrie and Luca can get a switch
Speaker 1: and they can go at anybody. How reliable is it
Speaker 1: to just depend on Kyrie and Luca to break someone
Speaker 1: down one on one every play. If Boston switches and
Speaker 1: just goes boxing elbows, yeah, you can say it's Kyrie
Speaker 1: and Luca.
Speaker 3: That's great. How tired are they getting? Right? Because one
Speaker 3: of a Boston game plan could be like.
Speaker 1: No, We're just gonna make these guys go one on
Speaker 1: one on one on one, tire themselves out, and then
Speaker 1: we win it. That could be the thinking that used
Speaker 1: to be our thinking with James Harden, like Yo, we're
Speaker 1: gonna let him play one on one on one and
Speaker 1: cross cross, cross and dribbling, get to the hole and
Speaker 1: dribble dribble, step back and and like, and we would
Speaker 1: say like, and he's going to score, and he's going
Speaker 1: to get here come second half, he's going to be exhausted.
Speaker 3: If you go look at all of those games when
Speaker 3: we're playing, we.
Speaker 1: Just walk them down in the second half every time,
Speaker 1: because that is very exhausting. So have to be very
Speaker 1: careful with that. And what I think number one to
Speaker 1: negate switching. You need to sprint into pick and rolls.
Speaker 1: You can't walk into pick and rolls. You sprint into
Speaker 1: pick and rolls. So the guys have to move, so
Speaker 1: they can't just pass you off and switch and like
Speaker 1: bully you and box and elbows and there's nowhere to
Speaker 1: go if you're spreading into it.
Speaker 3: Now you gotta guy moving. You got your.
Speaker 1: Guy coming off and the defender who's going to be
Speaker 1: switching coming up from a moving pattern, not just standing
Speaker 1: there like this loaded up ready for the guy to work.
Speaker 3: And so you gotta sprint. You need to set some
Speaker 3: screens coming from the bottom of the floor.
Speaker 1: Those also make switches tougher because you can't just jam
Speaker 1: a person into the screen to switch the screen if
Speaker 1: it's coming from the bottom of the floor. Referees can
Speaker 1: see that easier if you're coming from the bottom of
Speaker 1: the floor and they're just trying to muddy the screens up.
Speaker 1: So I think you have to screen with pace. And
Speaker 1: then I also think, which isn't much of like how Dallas'
Speaker 1: offense operates, but you have to have some cutters, like
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to send Derek Jones Junior
Speaker 1: cutting back door out of the corner for the lob.
Speaker 1: See if that opens up.
Speaker 3: I don't. We haven't seen much of that at all. PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker cutting out the corner for libs, cutting out the slots,
Speaker 1: removing guys, removing defenders because if you just stand when
Speaker 1: a team is going to switch and play box and elbows,
Speaker 1: it becomes tougher and tougher and tougher and also exhausting.
Speaker 1: And so you're gonna need to see some cutters, I
Speaker 1: think to soften the defense up. Yes, to drive will
Speaker 1: soften it up, but that's what it's built for. So
Speaker 1: to soften that defense up, you have to make Boston
Speaker 1: Rethinks switching everything because that is.
Speaker 3: The strength of theirs.
Speaker 1: And if I can immediately show you that that strength
Speaker 1: is no good here, they have to adjust, and so
Speaker 1: I think that's got to be the mindset. It's got
Speaker 1: to be the mindset if you're the Dallas Mavericks. Now
Speaker 1: in defending the Dallas Mavericks. Though, if I'm Boston, everybody's
Speaker 1: always like, oh, we're gonna stop Kyrie, We're gonna stop Luca.
Speaker 3: And make the other guys beat you.
Speaker 1: One thinking should be and could be, and if it
Speaker 1: was up to me, possibly would be is let me
Speaker 1: actually make Luca and Kyrie beat me. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take PJ. Washing, I'm gonna take Derrick Jones Junior at
Speaker 1: the game. I'm gonna take Derek Lively at the game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Daniel Gafford out the game. And now
Speaker 1: let's just see PJ. Washington beat me. If I got
Speaker 1: Derek Lively or Daniel Gafford and the dunkle, I'm not
Speaker 1: stepping up, You're not throwing the live.
Speaker 3: You just gotta make the floater.
Speaker 1: Those lives are energy players, those libs. Get those other
Speaker 1: guys going. Luca and Kyrie gonna score anyway. Even Joe
Speaker 1: Mizzoula said that they're gonna score anyway. So how can
Speaker 1: I take all these other things out the game, not overhelping.
Speaker 1: I need one of my good defenders to defend these
Speaker 1: guys good enough.
Speaker 3: I don't need you to stop them. You're not stop.
Speaker 1: Just do a good enough job to make them work
Speaker 1: really hard. And we need to stay home with the
Speaker 1: rest of these guys and not let them score, because again,
Speaker 1: Luca gonna get his thirty, Kyrie gonna get his thirty.
Speaker 1: And if you got Gafford with ten, twelve, Lively with
Speaker 1: ten or twelve, Maxi Claver with twelve, PJ. Washington with fourteen,
Speaker 1: you in trouble. You ain't stop nobody. Do you have
Speaker 1: a better chance of stopping Luka and Kyrie or do
Speaker 1: you have a better chance of stopping the other guys?
Speaker 3: I personally think you have a better chance of stopping
Speaker 3: the other guys.
Speaker 1: So we always get caught up in hell bent into
Speaker 1: like who's guarding this such and such, and like how
Speaker 1: they gonna stop him?
Speaker 3: And Luca?
Speaker 1: How you gonna stop Luke. You're not stopping Luca. This
Speaker 1: the NBA, and Luca's great. You're not stopping Kyrie. This
Speaker 1: the NBA, Kyrie Grey, But you can stop those other guys,
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the focus needs to be.
Speaker 1: If I'm Boston, I'm like, can these other guys beat us?
Speaker 1: And can these other guys beat me out? Do my
Speaker 1: other guys? And if I'm Boston, I feel confident in that,
Speaker 1: and so I think that's the way I would look
Speaker 1: at it. It's like you not necessarily stopping those two,
Speaker 1: but I can definitely stop these other guys. And if
Speaker 1: those two guys can score fifty and fifty, you tip
Speaker 1: be a had to him and try it again next year.
Speaker 3: But we know.
Speaker 1: Allowing those guys to make players, get other guys involved,
Speaker 1: knowing they're ultimately going to get back to theirs as
Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster. And lastly, in this series, I
Speaker 1: always speak about the game within the game, and the
Speaker 1: game within the game for me is to watch Luca
Speaker 1: and JT. Which one of those guys are going to
Speaker 1: take it more personal?
Speaker 3: That's what matters the most.
Speaker 1: Two Jordan Brand athletes, two guys fighting to fighting to
Speaker 1: be the face of Jordan Brand, fighting to be the
Speaker 1: face of the NBA. And here is your opportunity, and
Speaker 1: who's gonna take it more personal? Who's gonna take it?
Speaker 1: I gotta win this because this is what I want.
Speaker 3: That's the game within the game.
Speaker 1: It ain't about nobody else, it ain't about Jaylen Brown,
Speaker 1: it ain't about Kyrie. Which one of those two guys
Speaker 1: gonna take it more personal and say, this is why
Speaker 1: I am who I am. This is the next from
Speaker 1: adding to my resume, and I'm not gonna be denied
Speaker 1: which one of those? That's the game within the game
Speaker 1: for me. I need to see that. I need to
Speaker 1: see them boys on that type of time now. Not
Speaker 1: being nice. He's standing in the way of what you want.
Speaker 1: He's standing in the whale what you need. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: be nasty? Who I will not be denied by any
Speaker 1: means necessary. That's the game within the game. That's the
Speaker 1: one I'm watching. And so with all of that being said,
Speaker 1: that brings us to a prediction. And my prediction personally
Speaker 1: is I actually think Boston's gonna take Game one because
Speaker 1: I think it'll take some time for Dallas to get
Speaker 1: used to that size and that length, the switching, what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, what your adjustment's gonna be, Kyrie and
Speaker 1: Luca to figure out how they're gonna attack that, I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna take some time. And because of that,
Speaker 1: I think Boston takes game one. However, I think Dallas
Speaker 1: figures it out, come back and win Game two in Boston,
Speaker 1: going back to Dallas.
Speaker 3: One to one.
Speaker 1: I got them going into that place that they've been
Speaker 1: playing great and taking Game three. I got them then
Speaker 1: taking Game four with Dallas with a three to one lead.
Speaker 1: I got Boston taking Game five, and I got Dallas
Speaker 1: closing it in game six. That is my opinion. I
Speaker 1: think it's Lucas time. I think Kyrie one another one.
Speaker 1: I think that experience is going to matter. There's one
Speaker 1: big question. Everybody's saying, oh, man, Like everybody's like, oh, Luke,
Speaker 1: JT and JB didn't finish your job before they blah
Speaker 1: blah blah.
Speaker 3: Are they going to do that again?
Speaker 1: I think those boys are way more mature than they
Speaker 1: were even two years ago. I think they've seen it before.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a matter of they're not gonna
Speaker 1: play well. I just ultimately think Dallas is going to
Speaker 1: get the job done.
Speaker 3: They're on a magical run. They got all the pieces.
Speaker 1: Dallas is going to have to figure out how to
Speaker 1: match up with those bigs at times. If I'm them,
Speaker 1: I'm up at the level of the screen when those
Speaker 1: guards come off and they start turning that corner. If
Speaker 1: you set the screen with Alo porzingis and they start
Speaker 1: to turn that corner and get downhill, start to get downhill,
Speaker 1: and then I switch it. I got you inside the
Speaker 1: three point line. If you want to shoot me range
Speaker 1: jump shots and mix me and the mid range, go
Speaker 1: for it. Not letting y'all get three's back to those
Speaker 1: guys and run us off the floor. Dallas and six
Speaker 1: is what I got. I'm rolling with it. I'm sticking
Speaker 1: to it. You heard it here. First we shall see
Speaker 1: who gets one of these things. With that being said,
Speaker 1: standing in the line of champions, this next conversation is
Speaker 1: a fun with me obviously growing up in the state
Speaker 1: of Michigan, obviously having the utmost respect and love for
Speaker 1: my big homies, my o g's number one Joe Dumar
Speaker 1: is the orchestrator of the two thousand and four NBA
Speaker 1: champion Detroit Pistons. But my OG's, my brothers, my big
Speaker 1: bro chance she tay being ripped.
Speaker 3: This is a touchy one, and you know, she come out.
Speaker 1: And she says, we would have smacked the twenty seventeen words,
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah. Here's why Steph kn't guard. We could
Speaker 1: match up with them. Traymond's too small. I've heard that
Speaker 1: my whole life, forties things later still ain't been proven yet.
Speaker 3: Being blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 1: Like, this is an interesting one because most times, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just like take it there, and I got
Speaker 1: too much, way too much respect for the big homies.
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, this is a.
Speaker 1: Very engaging, interesting basketball conversation that I'm going to take
Speaker 1: part in. Number One, there's a zero percent chance that
Speaker 1: oh fourteen can beat us. You know, we were all
Speaker 1: happy in the state of Michigan to see them win
Speaker 1: a championship. All everybody else was I love those guys.
Speaker 1: But if I'm honest, I told y'all Shaquille O. Nill
Speaker 1: was my favorite player in the world. And so I
Speaker 1: was a little conflicted with that series because it's the
Speaker 1: Diesel Man, like the Diesel win an opportunity to win
Speaker 1: another one, like it's crazy, you know, And so that's
Speaker 1: Number one, A little conflicted. Nonetheless, the state of Michigan,
Speaker 1: we were happy to see those guys accomplish it again
Speaker 1: first time since ninety the Pistols label win the championship,
Speaker 1: and we were thrilled. Man, that one championship was incredible,
Speaker 1: and like that one was amazing to sit and call
Speaker 1: out the champs, like the dynasty. That one was incredible.
Speaker 1: But we all know how hard it is and how
Speaker 1: good you gotta be to do it again. And quite frankly,
Speaker 1: the OG's wasn't good enough to do it again. They
Speaker 1: was good enough to do the Boston, you know, get
Speaker 1: to the conference finals again and again and again and
Speaker 1: again and again.
Speaker 3: And we loved it.
Speaker 1: They was good enough to do to Boston, but they
Speaker 1: couldn't do They couldn't do what the Duves did.
Speaker 3: It's a reason for that. It's a reason for that.
Speaker 3: They couldn't do it again and again and again.
Speaker 1: Number One, a young Lebron James came about. I watched
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 3: Was that that game?
Speaker 1: I think I was there when le Bron went for
Speaker 1: what thirty seven straight or thirty three straight or something
Speaker 1: of that nature, and just like walk the Pistons down himself.
Speaker 1: I mean, quite frankly, this championship ring, at least I
Speaker 1: had to go through Lebron for two of the other
Speaker 1: ones had to go through Lebron. Bron single handedly destroyed
Speaker 1: our pistons, and all of a sudden, being on to Chicago,
Speaker 1: she I think I'll traded to like Atlanta Hawks or something,
Speaker 1: and Chance went to Denver, and like our pistons, was
Speaker 1: no longer the pistons that we once knew with the.
Speaker 3: One ring.
Speaker 1: And again, never gonna disrespect my Oh geez, but she
Speaker 1: is tripping, so let's talk about it. Ah, love the
Speaker 1: big homie Chance, but Chance can't. Chance can't play with
Speaker 1: Steph like Chance all Star, great player, Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: By the way, congrass big bro again, but it's levels.
Speaker 1: STEP's one of the goats. Goat you hear me, goat
Speaker 1: Chahn's can't play with Steph all right, Dean. Rip was
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing, by the way, still looking forward to Rip
Speaker 1: getting that Hall of Fame call. I think it's well deserved.
Speaker 1: I think it will happen. Clay is happening. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Rip.
Speaker 1: What Rip did coming off screens in the mid range
Speaker 1: and all that stuff was beautiful. Tracy wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: Clay's one of the best ever to shoot the basketball.
Speaker 1: So what Rip was doing coming off screens, Clay mastered that.
Speaker 1: Plus more plus from distance, way more dynamic. I'll give
Speaker 1: you sixty in three quarters sixty than Dubbs KD and
Speaker 1: Tay Tay was a great defender man incredible We go on, KD.
Speaker 3: No need to keep talking. Thing next me and Rashid Wallace.
Speaker 1: Rashid is actually one of the most skilled players to
Speaker 1: play in the NBA, and I know she don't get
Speaker 1: the credit. A lot to do with technical files and
Speaker 1: all this, then he don't get the credit to deserve.
Speaker 3: If you talk to.
Speaker 1: Anybody who is around the NBA who know the NBA,
Speaker 1: Rashie Wallace is one of the most talented skilled players
Speaker 1: to ever grace the NBA.
Speaker 3: Bar none, no debating that.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to debate it because I actually believe
Speaker 1: and was able to watch she like skill level on
Speaker 1: another planet, but like sometimes she was the first option
Speaker 1: on that sometimes he was the fourth option. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna be the first option here because that just ain't
Speaker 1: flying like you ain't just getting ah he too small.
Speaker 1: Stop it Number one. You gotta move her feet. She
Speaker 1: can't move his feet. She playing air Force one like
Speaker 1: hot tops unstrapped. That's because ain't nobody making you move, bro,
Speaker 1: Like you gotta move like in this game, to my
Speaker 1: don't matter the rules, No, they matter because in this
Speaker 1: game you gotta move your feet and them air force
Speaker 1: ones don't move. You gotta move like you actually come
Speaker 1: up in guard. We're gonna torture she.
Speaker 3: She the weak link on the defensive end by the way.
Speaker 1: We putting sheet and Rip in all actions guard guard
Speaker 1: with Stephan Clay, come here, Rip, Rip, don't want to check.
Speaker 1: I don't rip, don't want to check. I used to
Speaker 1: listen to Rip talk about checking. Rip don't want to check.
Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about that part though, God
Speaker 1: Clay ain't go.
Speaker 3: No, who Rip Garden? That's what we want to see.
Speaker 3: Who is Rip Garden? Well her rip? Who a you Guarden? Rip?
Speaker 1: Between Rip and she being on the floor that that
Speaker 1: team can't play. She was a good shot blocker, I'll
Speaker 1: give it to him, a very underrated shot blocker. But
Speaker 1: we ain't just going to shoot layups like you gotta check.
Speaker 1: So rip Rip and she with defensive liabilities when.
Speaker 3: It comes to playing against us.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not gonna sit up here like some
Speaker 1: id and come on here and act like I was more.
Speaker 3: Skilled than she'd or block.
Speaker 1: She'd is one of the more skilled players that ever
Speaker 1: play in the NBA bar none. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. However, she you gotta come check, You gotta
Speaker 1: come move. You can put in every action, Go go back,
Speaker 1: Go go bag Joey Crawford to teching because he bullshit
Speaker 1: and trumps. Go bag and give him a tech because
Speaker 1: he But that ain't gonna work because it's a it's
Speaker 1: an ability thing and he can't check. So with two
Speaker 1: none defenders on the court, teams with two non defenders
Speaker 1: on the court against us, you can't win.
Speaker 3: You can't. It ain't gonna work. We're gonna pick on
Speaker 3: you and pick on you and pick on you. Ain't
Speaker 3: gonna work. So then we get to Ben Ben. Is Ben.
Speaker 1: Ben gonna do what Ben do? But Ben got to
Speaker 1: come up out that drop too. You put in these actions.
Speaker 1: You can't just bully us.
Speaker 3: Ben. We moving. You gotta move them guys. Wanna moving? Man?
Speaker 1: You gonna watch them games sixty nine to sixty six
Speaker 1: final Like what.
Speaker 3: Seventy one to sixty four? What that's not flow?
Speaker 1: Oh well, we played defense, man, We play defense too.
Speaker 1: The rules are different, the game is faster, the game
Speaker 1: is better, but stop it that's ridiculous. Come on, she,
Speaker 1: we loved that one championship though. Shout out to the ogs.
Speaker 1: She tripping. He know they can't win. Not ain't gonna happen,
Speaker 1: no chance. By the way, we made y'all brand of
Speaker 1: basketball is stink.
Speaker 3: We did that.
Speaker 1: So the brand that y'all played to win, we actually
Speaker 1: like crushed that, like, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3: Play that way no more. You play that way, you're
Speaker 3: gonna lose.
Speaker 1: You getting fired, He getting fired, he getting traded, He
Speaker 1: gonna be out the NBA. That's what we did to
Speaker 1: that brand of basketball. We did that to that brand
Speaker 1: right there. Come on, she that ain't never flying. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the O g Shout out to the four pistols.
Speaker 1: We love that championship. We love that one ring. That
Speaker 1: one ring is incredible. Y'all be sounding like Kendrick Perkins
Speaker 1: and his one ring, Paul piercing his one ring. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the gods. Though they sit at the table,
Speaker 1: but it's levels to the table.
Speaker 3: Love.
Speaker 1: When I'm on NBA TV, inside the NBA on TNT,
Speaker 1: me and Shaq start to show off like this, it's
Speaker 1: a different club now.
Speaker 3: It's a different club now.
Speaker 1: So you know they champs part of the club, but
Speaker 1: then it's a different club and you know the O
Speaker 1: G's they can't sit at that table. They sit at
Speaker 1: the champ table though. We can't take that away from them,
Speaker 1: and we love it. Always respect the champion, Always respect
Speaker 1: the champion.
Speaker 3: Told you all the story about Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 1: Once you win a championship, brother, I'm done, got my respect,
Speaker 1: Say no more. Yeah you've said that to tell but
Speaker 1: that one ring she that ain't enough to call the
Speaker 1: best team ever. You can't call out the best team
Speaker 1: ever with that one ring. We love y'all though. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the O G's. Also rest in peace Drew Gordon.
Speaker 1: Actually from my class I mentioned Aaron Gordon. I'd be
Speaker 1: remiss if I did not send my love and well
Speaker 1: wishes to their family. Can't imagine what they're going through,
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to pay my respects. Drew was
Speaker 1: an incredible competitor. Like I say, it's from my class
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, my graduated high school class.
Speaker 3: Was one of the top guys in our class.
Speaker 1: Well respect the great basketball player, hard, no as physical
Speaker 1: as hell. So shout out to Drew Rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Shout out to Aaron Gordon and the Gordon family.
Speaker 3: Much love and respect to them, sending our condolences.
Speaker 1: In other news, as we spoke about we would get
Speaker 1: into is the Kennedy Carter and Caitlin Clark situation.
Speaker 3: Number one.
Speaker 1: I saw she came out like enforcer who talking about
Speaker 1: my tweet it's no shot at you. I like the
Speaker 1: play like it was a for sure bullshit play, like
Speaker 1: you just run up and chuck the girl.
Speaker 3: But I'm all for that. I'm not the god that's
Speaker 3: gonna come out here be like you shouldn't do that. No, no, no.
Speaker 3: But my point was is they.
Speaker 1: Should get an enforcer so that when you do that,
Speaker 1: somebody come club you, because that's what should happen. Like
Speaker 1: you don't get to just do something to Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll get thrown out eighty two times, like
Speaker 1: you just don't get the like hit Steph like that.
Speaker 1: That's not what we're gonna do here. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Steph gonna stand up for him. Steph, ain't no, ain't no.
Speaker 1: I can't say the word I want to say, but
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing. Ain't none of that in my brother blood.
Speaker 1: He gonna stand up for himself anyway.
Speaker 3: But he ain't. We ain't rolling.
Speaker 1: He ain't gotta do all that, and you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do all that because you know what come with that.
Speaker 3: And that's simply what I was saying. Ms. Kennedy. Love
Speaker 3: what you did.
Speaker 1: I don't love how you went to the press conference
Speaker 1: and wouldn't answer a question about it. Quite frankly, if
Speaker 1: you want to understand how this thing goes, I'll give
Speaker 1: you a little advice. You're gonna take on the villain road.
Speaker 1: Great love it. You're gonna be that enforce her on
Speaker 1: your team. Great love it. Can't dodge the question. You
Speaker 1: go to the press conference, you answer the question. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't, No, Craig Caitlin Clark, No, no, no, no, you
Speaker 1: did what you did.
Speaker 3: Stand on it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I go to the podium, I'm not gonna not answer
Speaker 1: a question about Rudy Goberrow whoever else.
Speaker 3: Stand on it.
Speaker 1: Stand on that thing't happen with you self, Nurkics. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna answer the question. You gotta stand on it. Regardless
Speaker 1: of what your answer gonna be. You cannot hide from
Speaker 1: the question. Stand on what you did. You can't then
Speaker 1: run the Twitter like and I said, like, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: They had a chance to answer. You ask you a
Speaker 1: question and you hit.
Speaker 3: Stand.
Speaker 1: Don't what you say, stand, don't what you do. That's
Speaker 1: my only gripe with what she did. So when you
Speaker 1: come calling out, we grown we enforce us. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a grown ass enforcer to enforce on you
Speaker 1: if you touch Kaitln Clark like that.
Speaker 3: So to the.
Speaker 1: Indiana fever again, you need to go get you someone
Speaker 1: with some muscle, somebody that's coming to the defense of
Speaker 1: Kaitlin Clark. It shouldn't be Kaylyn Clark. Don't tell me,
Speaker 1: oh she got to be more physical. That ain't her job.
Speaker 1: Her job is to shoot threees Hey, steph shoot. I
Speaker 1: wish somebody would shoot. We gonna go there, by the way,
Speaker 1: don't mean I'm gonna win. Everything may lose, but we
Speaker 1: gotta go there. You can't just put your hands on him.
Speaker 1: You can't just run him over like that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: ain't happening. No, it ain't got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: how tough he is. Stuff is actually one of the
Speaker 1: tougher people I've ever been around. He ain't going there.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna happen. That's why I'm doing That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I'm here not doing that. So to her, Kennedy,
Speaker 1: who's like and force a week grown, she better hoop,
Speaker 1: she go hoop.
Speaker 3: That's what she here to do. Hoop.
Speaker 1: Not go back and forth with you because you getting
Speaker 1: kicked out the game and Kayln.
Speaker 3: Clark getting kicked out the game. That's not an equal trade.
Speaker 1: Don't work, Kayln Clark getting sidetrack focused on you because
Speaker 1: you do a make a play like that.
Speaker 3: Not an even trade. Don't work. What do work?
Speaker 1: He is though, We got this muscle over here and
Speaker 1: you about to get put down. That's how it just
Speaker 1: gotta be. So keep doing what you doing, Kennedy. I
Speaker 1: respect it. Stand on it. Next time you go to
Speaker 1: the press conference and you do something like that, don't say,
Speaker 1: oh my teammates, uh no, how hard, No it's not him, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Just stand on what you did.
Speaker 3: Because when Angel.
Speaker 1: Jumped up like, yeah that was playing, we.
Speaker 3: Know that was playing.
Speaker 1: Y'all talked about that and all that, you did it.
Speaker 1: You followed through with it, So then stand on it.
Speaker 1: Just don't go to the press conference like I ain't
Speaker 1: answering no, Kaitlin Carr questions, because then you lose credibility
Speaker 1: and that muscle and enforcer that you say your teammates
Speaker 1: respect about you takes a hit because you ain't stand
Speaker 1: on what you did.
Speaker 3: So there you have it, Kennedy.
Speaker 1: You want to come at the boy uh enforcer who
Speaker 1: also like it's cool like say, and I saw draymondset
Speaker 1: enforce like we you don't like see if you're gonna
Speaker 1: really do this, you gotta like do it like.
Speaker 3: Stand on business at all times.
Speaker 1: Draymond said something and Draymond gonna tweet blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: It don't be like in the.
Speaker 1: Enforcer comment like nah, you got to stand on what
Speaker 1: you do if you're doing this. And also understand it
Speaker 1: ain't that pretty always. It's hard and they come with
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism and you can't start crying about
Speaker 1: your teammates know you that well, it don't work like that.
Speaker 3: So either you over here or you over there. Pick
Speaker 3: one in other news or not another news.
Speaker 1: But there's been this huge talk about Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: and Monica McNutt and the comment that she made, and
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I didn't think the comment was as great
Speaker 1: as the credit that it got, because like the reality
Speaker 1: is is I'm sure at some point or another, Steven
Speaker 1: they has talked about the WNBA, But like, let's not
Speaker 1: sit in like say, oh, you had the platform three
Speaker 1: years ago. Like, at the end of the day, this
Speaker 1: is about TV rating when you have a show. This
Speaker 1: is about putting eyeballs in front of that TV screen.
Speaker 1: And like, let's be honest. The WNBA right now is
Speaker 1: out an all time high. It's a great conversation to have.
Speaker 1: It's fun TV, it's making waves, it's doing all of that.
Speaker 1: Three years ago it wasn't making those same waves. So
Speaker 1: you can call somebody out and be like, you had
Speaker 1: the platform. I hate when people be like you had
Speaker 1: the platform to do this, Like one person don't make
Speaker 1: something go.
Speaker 3: The product has.
Speaker 1: To do that, and I think the product is doing
Speaker 1: a better job of that. Yes, Kaitlin Clark has something
Speaker 1: to do with that, a huge part to do with it.
Speaker 1: You crazy, all the eyeballs Kaylin Clark's bringing. Of course
Speaker 1: she got something to do with that. Yes, Angel Reeves
Speaker 1: has something to do with that. You crazy. Angel rees
Speaker 1: has brought eyeballs to the game. I agree with what
Speaker 1: Angel Ree said, I don't quite agree with Angel Reese
Speaker 1: calling for the accolation and flowers for herself. You know,
Speaker 1: let somebody else go say it. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I respect somebody standing on what they stand on. So
Speaker 1: Angel Reese got my respect. Whether you like what she
Speaker 1: said or not, she's standing on what she's stand on,
Speaker 1: and I can respect that. Yes, those yes, Cameron Brink
Speaker 1: has added eyes. Yes, that draft class that just came
Speaker 1: in has added eyes to the WNBA. They added private flights.
Speaker 1: We can all say what we want to say. They
Speaker 1: ain't want Kaitlin Clark walking through no airport. Let's face it.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, they don't. No, I'm not saying Kaitlin
Speaker 1: Clark's the best thing since Spider Sight's bread. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: you want my opinion, that's Angel Wilson. You want my
Speaker 1: honest being like best things in Slice Red and WBA
Speaker 1: to me is as Wilson.
Speaker 3: So I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily of the mindset that it's all I know.
Speaker 1: Asia Wilson is great. And by the way, Asia Wilson
Speaker 1: to me is the American dream come from a two
Speaker 1: pound household, grew got better, young black girl, had everything
Speaker 1: against her, made it defeated to beat the odds to
Speaker 1: become what soon will be known as the greatest player
Speaker 1: to ever grace the WNBA. That's quite honest in my opinion,
Speaker 1: I think Asia Wilson is as marketable as anybody in
Speaker 1: the WNBA. But you have to figure out how to
Speaker 1: market the product. By the way, go back to the
Speaker 1: old interviews, I did, you have to figure out how
Speaker 1: to market the product. So yeah, I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: up here and act like Kaitlin Clark ain't done nothing
Speaker 1: for the WNBA. That's bullshit. Yes she has, she's going
Speaker 1: to continue to. No, I'm not of the assumption of
Speaker 1: it's only her. I think y'all got a gold mine
Speaker 1: in the WNBA sitting right there, marketable as anybody in
Speaker 1: Asia Wilson and having figured out how to.
Speaker 3: Make it go. Hey, Asian fault. By the way, he
Speaker 3: Asian fault.
Speaker 1: Asia got a lot about her that it's as marketable
Speaker 1: as can be and by the way, soon to be
Speaker 1: the best WNBA player to ever played, So including that
Speaker 1: most importantly that So that's kind of where I stand
Speaker 1: on it. It's like, I don't think the WNBA do
Speaker 1: a good enough job of marketing their product. I just
Speaker 1: don't don't do a good job storytelling starting to do better.
Speaker 1: But let's not act like the starting to do better
Speaker 1: isn't of the organic nature. That is Kaitlin Clark, that
Speaker 1: is Cameron Brink, that is Angel Reese, what those girls
Speaker 1: have brought in this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they getting roughed up in all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I also think it's crazy that the other WNBA players
Speaker 1: Sean act like they're not roughing them up, like y'all
Speaker 1: are roughing them up.
Speaker 3: Stand on it. It is what it is. I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it. Stand on it though, makes for better TV.
Speaker 1: Y'all talk about marketing the product, talk about what we
Speaker 1: want the product to be. That is great TV. Of
Speaker 1: course we roughing her up crazy coming in here. Huh,
Speaker 1: pay your dues. We all have to pay dues. Gotta
Speaker 1: pay theirs too. I don't understand the hiding like we're
Speaker 1: not doing that. How dare y'all say that? Yes, y'all
Speaker 1: are who cares? So it's great, go for it, do it.
Speaker 1: It sells, and it's how it goes. You coming this lead,
Speaker 1: you're a rookie. You don't get no respect. You earn
Speaker 1: that It's been that way, so stop hiding from it.
Speaker 3: Stand on it. Everybody want a duck and hide when
Speaker 3: it ain't so pleasant.
Speaker 1: All right, learn to market the product because the gold
Speaker 1: mine that is AGEA Wilson is right in your face.
Speaker 3: Period. I told my.
Speaker 1: Some friends of mine that I wasn't going to respond
Speaker 1: to this, and she's kind of out Draymond, like.
Speaker 3: Skip, everybody's skipping past Skip Bayless.
Speaker 1: Since Shannon left him, and he comes out and says
Speaker 1: he'll have me eating out of a palm of his
Speaker 1: hands if he come on the show.
Speaker 3: I am not coming on your show. Skip.
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep skipping past you, just like everybody
Speaker 1: else skipped on you, because that show is dead. No
Speaker 1: one wants to hear you talk anymore. In the words
Speaker 1: of Richard Sherman, I am better than you. I'm better
Speaker 1: than you at life. I am just better than you,
Speaker 1: Skipp and Skip. That's a wrap in this episode of
Speaker 1: the Draymond Green Show. Skip, you ain't never had one
Speaker 1: of these, one of these or any of these. Let's
Speaker 1: see what's that. That's our NBA second team. Oh, what's
Speaker 1: that our NBA defensive first team. Yes, Kip, we don't
Speaker 1: respect you you need more people to rap Peace