WEBVTT - Balls to the Walz 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Lamb Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.720 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.000 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.240 Welcome home, y'all. This is episode Get It thirty one, 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.200 thirty one of Native Lamp Pod, where we give it 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:19.720 to you as directly as we can. I'm extremely excited 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.239 to be joined today by none other than the Tiffany Cross, 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.960 the Angela Rye, and I'm Andrew Gillim. What's up, y'all? 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:28.560 What's up? 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:34.080 A g Everything is, Yes, everything that is a good point. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.360 Everything is up, My everything is. It's time to. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.680 Do You could tell everything is up because Angela has 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.080 gone so far as to put flowers all over a wall. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.600 That's a good day. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.559 You decided to put them all over your hair. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.320 I love it so Andrew, you missed the floral memo. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.440 What's going on? Safe plant? 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.160 But we'll take it. It's gross, it's green gross. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.600 His soul is still glowing, y'all. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.280 So much, so much, so much has happened over the 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.840 past couple of days, and I know, like me, y'all 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.440 can't wait to get right in it. So on today's episode, 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.880 we're going to be talking. Yes, Harris taps in Minnesota 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.440 Governor Tim Waltz to be her running mate. We'll talk 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.280 a little bit more about that some of the folks 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.160 who didn't make it what we think this fore tales 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.640 were November. Of course, we want to dive across the 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.040 pond over to US involvement and the potential escalating war 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.959 in the Middle East, maybe get some election news that's 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:36.000 a part of that, given this week's Tuesday's primary outcomes. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.839 And finally, we want to just illuminate for you that 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.160 when Republicans are out of options, they get real dangerous, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:46.800 which is why we're going to be taking a look 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:52.040 at some of the antics and tactics being under jaking 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.600 right now by Republicans all over the country at the local, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.640 to the municipal, to the state, and obviously eventually to 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.480 at the federal level try to steal yet another election. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:07.000 Georgia Elections Board appruise new inquiry for certifying elections, and 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.920 we'll let you know exactly what that means. Let's just 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:09.520 start a family. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:15.680 Let's go, so, ladies, y'all, we eagerly anticipated for about 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.880 two weeks not a long time who vice president. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.920 Here is my select for her, her running mate this 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.279 is the most important decision, and the decision left exclusively 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.920 to one person, as is often the case when she 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.119 will be in the presidency, God Willing. What do y'all 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.960 think about the choice? Y'all know where I was, and 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.080 I heard some of where you were, Angelia? You were 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.799 you were dreaming, big dreams. Friend. Last time we talked 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:45.160 about the Vief stage John Stewart, he declined, I don't 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.000 know who he might have read. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.080 You know, there are a few things I think. The 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.280 first thing is, before I get into any of my downsides, 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.320 I think it would be really dope if we played 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.760 some of Walls's sound Andrew, I Love You in Black 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.440 America because y'all definitely calling this man Waltz and it 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:12.840 has been noted on Twitter. Why don't we play balls 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.800 to the walls now? Real quick, let's go, because that's 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:15.680 exactly what he's doing. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.680 Let's do it like all regular people I grew up 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.800 with in the heartland. JD studied at Yale, had his 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:27.080 career funded by Silicon Valley billionaires, and then wrote a 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.920 best seller trashing that community. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:34.440 Come on, that's not what Middle America is. And I 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.080 gotta tell you, I. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.640 Can't wait to debate the guy, that is, if he's 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.440 willing to get off the couch and show up. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:51.960 So let's see what I did there. Vice President Harris 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.600 is like pearls clutch. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.200 She said, Okay, you know the thing that I really 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.000 like about him is he gives Kamala Harris some cover. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.960 I think that we all know, as a black woman 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.200 running for this office, even the first time, there are 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.280 a lot of things that she should be able to do, 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.000 given her political acumen, given her experience, that they're not 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.919 going to necessarily let her do. In the court of 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.800 public opinion. They're judging her heavy. And I think even 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.880 with this walt sound Waltz, as Andrew would say sound, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:31.280 is that there are folks who are saying that he 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.480 went too far. They're a journalists saying that he went 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.880 too far, as if they don't realize that the opposition 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.120 is calling Kamala Harriet Harris not black. They're saying that 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.760 she doesn't know if she's Indian or black. And so 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.800 when you're up against opposition like that, I wonder what 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.040 is fair game? Like why does it have to be 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.480 that Democrats go high when they're like lo lo lo 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.760 to the floor, like literally the basement, literally the core 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.920 of the earth, and so I think he's got a 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.240 meet the opposition where they are. So I'm looking forward 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.760 to the fight in him. Some of the concerns I 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.400 initially had were Walls looks older, significantly older, and we 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.520 just were kind of shifting away from that ticket. He 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.440 happens to only be six months older than Kamala Harris. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.119 I was worried about him being not particularly well known 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.520 and therefore not really vetted in the press. People are like, oh, well, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.839 Eric Holder is running the VET team. That is great. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.200 That's not what I mean I'm talking about when the 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.960 stories come out about anything about his background, from DUIs 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.920 to you know what Fox News does about him changing 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.200 the Minnesota flag to look more like the Somalia flag, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.120 the very fact that he comes from Minnesota would it, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.000 which is generally pretty liberal. And the fact moreover that 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.080 his politics have shifted substantially since he since he was 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.119 in Congress. When Walls was representing a very rural area 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.599 of Minnesota, he was far more conservative based on the 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.080 district that he served. I think there have been a 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.880 lot of folks who've said, listen, this is someone who 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.320 represents what evolution should look like in the fact that 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.719 he can say this is where I was, this is 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.760 why it was wrong, and this is why I've shifted, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.760 particularly around his politics with the NRA, which I know 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.400 you would appreciate deeply, Andrew giving your own battles with 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.960 the NRA. So those are the kinds of things that 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.839 stand out for me. I think that there's no perfect 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.840 candidate because there's no perfect human being. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.880 So to be honest with you all, I'm excited that 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:33.520 she picked Governor Tim Walls, but in transparency, she could 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.880 have named Ronald McDonald as her man. I think when 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.080 you look at the other side of what's happening over there, like, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.240 spare me the concerns about anybody she was going to name, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.640 and I don't the right is always going to pick 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.919 some random, nefarious thing that they could pounce on. I 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:53.800 don't ever want us to make decisions on what the 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.160 right might say about a candidate. The fact is that 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.440 this man is a veteran who starved to the Army 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.560 National Guard. He's a former high school social studies teacher. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.880 He's a former football coach. He is a hunter, which, obviously, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.400 as an animal lover, I don't love that he's a 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.960 gun owner. He won a district that Donald Trump also 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.000 won a House seat that was carried by Trump, and 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.600 so to me, those things matter, and I trust the 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.000 federal government's vetting system, and most importantly, I trust Vice 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.280 President Harris and her instincts. There was reporting according to 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.040 The New York Times, that Governor Shapiro was very ambitious. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.720 He wanted to know about what his role would be 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.160 and he had to reportedly he had to soul service 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.560 to see if he could serve as a number two, 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.400 and that Governor Wall said, I'm here to do whatever 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.200 I can for the team. There is a show, Veep, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.240 that has come into the spotlight that I think of 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.400 all the shows from West Wing to all the shows 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.160 that have tried to parody DC or talk about what 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.200 happens in DC, I have to say Veep was the 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.400 most accurate. And there were so many and she was 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.560 going through this. The vice president who ascends to the presidents, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.520 he was going through this. There were so many of 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.720 these interviews where the number two was very ambitious, and 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.240 it was clear that they had their own political aspirations. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.920 And I don't know if ambition is what you want 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.640 in your number two you need somebody who's going to 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.880 support you. And according to the vetting team, which included 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:27.400 former Congressman Sedjah Richmond Senator Captain Cortez Mastow out of Nevada, 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.080 angel already mentioned that former Attorney General Nevada. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.080 Thank you, I all forgive me Nevada. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:40.800 I always say that, but they had You know, angel 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.880 I already mentioned that former Attorney General Eric Holder was 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.679 leading the vet you know, it came down to her gut. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.200 And so I think I'm going to trust the Vice 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.840 President's gut because she has to work the closest with him, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.000 and given what we're facing in this country, I mean, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.839 my thought is, let's get behind whoever she picks, and 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.040 what do we have to do to push her over 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.800 the line. Now when it comes to how he will 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.839 be received, what's this rollout going to look like? Of 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.079 Tuesday of this week, they made their debut in Philadelphia, 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.319 crucial city to the battleground state of Pennsylvania. I thought 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.600 it couldn't have gone better. To the point about the couch, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.000 I thought I grew completely echo Angela's thoughts, like it's 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.160 ridiculous that we are going to compare you know, this 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.880 kind of the throwaway, throw away laugh line about the couch. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.079 And just as background for those of you who may 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:37.280 not know, there was somebody who tweeted that in the 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.840 book He'll Billy elegy jd Vance said that he had 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.719 sex with the couch, which essentially like he the The 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.240 alleged passage was that he like put his hands together 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.640 and and and gyrated hunch as we would say with 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.199 this couch. Now, the person later said they they added 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.640 a page number and everything, and the person later said, yeah, guys, 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.880 I was just making that up like it wasn't true, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.800 but so many people consumed it and thought it was 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.400 real that then there became another rumor that the publisher 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.080 pulled it. None of this was true, but it became 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.480 so public that even the AP wrote about it, and 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.520 they later took the story down because it didn't meet 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.640 their editorial standards, which I agree with. They probably shouldn't 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.560 have done that, but it became like this urban legend. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.839 We can say here on Natalean Pount, we obviously don't 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.040 want to traffic in disinformation. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.240 This did not happen. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.600 I think it's it's quite real as far as we know, well, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.880 because I have not heard Dad E. Vance say this 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.400 didn't happen, but we can't say that it was not 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:39.040 in the book. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.240 He'll Billy Elegy Tiffany. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.880 The reason why I took off is because it's so believable. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.559 The like, so let me just finish this point. Is 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.200 because I believable in the since that yes, they are weird. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.240 I don't know that it's believable that he had sex 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.960 with the couch. Here's my challenge with this, for all 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.280 the journalists who are coming out like, you know, dumbing 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.760 their nose at you know, I feel like, hey, it's 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.680 your job to say, hey, this is actually this did 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.800 not happen. When he said that line, and people came 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.160 on afterwards, as you know, the cable news panels do, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.320 and the chattering class like picks this apart. I did 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.520 not hear a lot of people correct it. I had 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.280 just heard people say, oh, what a great line about 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.200 the couts. They neither explained it nor corrected it. That's 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.120 a fail on your part, not the governor's part. He 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.800 is a candidate, and if they're gonna throw, if they're 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.160 gonna rib each other on things like this, then journalists 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.960 have more of responsibility than to cover this like it's 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.960 the Drake Kendrick Lamar beef like this is not sport 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.640 for us. These politics and policies have a dire consequence 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.600 to the people who are on the receiving end of it. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.480 And I think the reason why you have so many 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.920 cable news panels just kind of parse over this kind 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.920 of thing and move past it and have all this 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.840 inside baseball talk is because they're rarely impacted by this. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.439 We're looking at this like, how is this going to 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.400 impact my mom's medicaid? How is this going to impact 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.880 my health insurance? How is this going to impact my mortgage? 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.440 How was just going to impact where my kids go 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.920 to school? And so because they're failing at their job 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.840 in terms of fact checking and deciding what's a joke 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.199 and what's real and what's reality, and what's something to 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.560 laugh about on what's not, I just think it's quite 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:17.120 hypocriticalism to criticize Governor Walls, or as my people say, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.880 the community says Governor waltz Andrew. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.200 Before you chiming here, I just wanted to flag one 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.760 thing that Tip rays, and that is around fact checking. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.000 The nerve of journalists to go on and want to 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.880 fact check a campaign trail speech, particularly a rollout, which 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.880 is very clearly a joke. The audience is roaring his laughter. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.440 But you won't fact check a debate, thank you, But 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.480 you won't fact check an interview, like the only fact 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.560 checker that Donald Trump had the NABJ was Rachel Scott 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.240 last week. Like, I don't know what we're talking about here, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.880 So that is super super frustrating to me that you 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.079 think that it is his obligation to say because the 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:54.960 journalists want me to weigh in here, let me just 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.600 say that this is not true. But it is a 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.439 joke that is so dumb. So I just want to 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.360 say that I got point about ambition, but I'm away 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:02.160 till my brother weiys in. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.280 No, I just quickly say, look, I listened to this. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.640 I was. I was enraptured yesterday by all of the 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.720 dynamics on Tuesday, by all the dynamics that they present. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.840 And he was not my choice for her for her veep. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.120 But after seeing him, I'm on board. I mean, he 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.559 quickly became my choice. It then made complete in total sense. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.800 While he was selected as far as as I'm concerned, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.400 and again I don't I'm probably similar to you anybody 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:35.560 who's vice president probably is ambitious. But what Walls did 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.640 is he went and he said, I have no aspirations 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.240 to anything higher than to be in service to you 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.520 as your vice president. And I think if you're Kamala Harrison, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.400 you're thinking about the work that lay ahead. You want 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.840 somebody who's focused principally on that and I and I 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.920 get that. And I still believe that Shapiro has not 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.679 just ambitions, but I believe that time will will prove 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.000 him to be a serious, serious national player on the 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.480 national scale. And I believe one day as president of 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:08.079 the United States, his time will come. But Walls he 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.400 has had, he has had growth and belief system. But 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.680 before he was ever being measured on how he voted, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.840 on what stance he took when he was just a teacher, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.080 not just but a teacher, when he was a coach, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.280 a national championship winning football coach, when it was not 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:29.040 popular to the LGBT in this country and in his state, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.800 decided symbolically what it meant, but also what it meant 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.600 for him to stand in the gap for those who 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.920 are being marginalized and targeted and said, you know what, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:44.440 I'll serve as the gay straight alliance staff faculty advisor 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:49.080 to this group, and to have the football coach take 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.200 on that role, y'all know what that represents. You know 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.280 what it means, and I can only imagine what it 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.120 meant to those young people who who identified as such 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.120 and whose lives may have been saved by him choosing 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.360 to stand in the gap. Are those are the parts 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:07.000 of his contributions to society that are not going to 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.000 show up in a congressional scorecard. But it tells the 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.400 story of a man. It tells the story of where 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:18.800 his heart is, where his ethics lie, and and and frankly, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.600 the kind of man that he is, and and I 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:25.040 respect that. I think that he will give Kamala everything 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.880 that she needs, including his experience on the heel. Well, 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.200 I think add just additional support to her moving a 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.720 congressional or a legislative agenda through Congress, which as we 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.320 all know, is not the easiest thing to do. And finally, y'all, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.880 I'll just say I did listen to that speech and 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.200 had no clue what the couch reference was at all. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.200 When Jay came home that night, she was like, hey, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.440 I already mentioned the couch. I was like, yeah, I 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.560 guess the guy's lazy. I was just like, you haven't 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.840 heard him, Like, what are you talking about? And so 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.720 she pulls up the social media and I look at 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.040 the thing. I'm like, oh, okay, But but I tell 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.800 you it endured me even further. To this man. There 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.120 is no measuring these two tickets on the same scale. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.120 They're not in the same universe. They're just not in 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.920 the same universe. And so I, of course, like you 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:18.480 both rebuke this whole fact checking. I have to tell 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.520 you many of us probably watched it without familiarity to 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.360 the reference, just thought he was being a hokey, you 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:28.160 know kind of guy. But I'm in Harris Walls. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.880 Well, I'll say one quick thing, just because Angela brought 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.560 this up seeing a fact checking, I do want to 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.840 point out that what Angela referenced when she said do 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.880 UIs it was one dui that Governor Walls got in 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.040 nineteen ninety five when he was thirty one, when he 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.080 was driving significantly over the speed limit. I'm not dismissing 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.320 it or trivializing it. I just want our viewers to 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.600 understand what Angela was referencing. We're coming up on a heartbreak, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.840 but Angela. I know you wanted to talk about Shapiro, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.040 so I'll let you do that and then you take 0:16:59.120 --> 0:16:59.640 us to break. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.600 Well, I don't want to. I want to say Shapiro 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.679 did a great job at the rally saying that he 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.439 was going to support this ticket. I do think that 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.040 we should talk about ambition on the other side of 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.520 the break, and just because I know you would have 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.400 done this. Tip is our resident sports commentator and analysts. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.760 Tim Walls has never won a national championship, but he 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.480 did win a state championship at the FOP touch so 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:36.159 what that says he will take that touchdown to the break. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.800 I want to talk about Tim Walls because Philly, in 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.840 a minute, he's going to come out here, and I 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:47.960 want you to give him. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:48.680 A whole lot of luck. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.680 Tim Walls is a great man. Tim Walls is an 0:17:53.680 --> 0:18:01.120 outstanding governor. Tim Walls is a teacher. Tim Walls say guardsman. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:14.000 Tim Walls is a great patriot here and I'll tell 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.400 you what else. I'll tell you what else. Tim Walls 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.760 is a dear friend. And I want you to know 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:27.280 LORI and I feel blessed to have Tim and Gwen 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:32.760 in our lives. They are outstanding public servants. And I 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.160 can't wait for you, Philly, the rest of this Commonwealth 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.560 and our entire country to get the chance to know 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.159 the Walls is the next vice president and second lady 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:44.400 of this nation. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.439 Will should be the first lady, since Doug would be the. 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.680 First question. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:19:01.280 Lady because Doug is the first gentleman. Well, second, he 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.840 wasn't the first and second, So I think she's the 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.480 first lady, But what a time point. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.320 To second lady. She's still a seculating But I just 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.880 want to say that was none other than Josh Obama 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.600 or Barack Shapiro that you just heard from, and I 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.840 think that it is phenomenal that he is. He reminds 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.360 me a lot of Barack Obama. There's been a lot 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.920 of jokes about this, but his cadence is like absolutely 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:29.640 borrowed from our residential black preacher or Barack Obama. They might, yeah, 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.800 he might have borrowed it. He definitely brought it. So yeah, 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.480 maybe I could just say thank you Jeremiah. Right regardless, 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.240 it was an amazing intro. And I think as much 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.760 as we talk about ambition and pooh pooh it, I think, 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.919 just like we say with women, ambition is not a 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.600 dirty word. And I think that when you look at 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.520 the trajectory of most of our vps, they ran against 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.480 the president first, at least in recent history. I don't 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.960 think that's been true forever, but it's in recent history. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.000 Kamala Harris was running against Joe Biden. O'biden was running 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.800 against Barack Obama, so let's be clear about that. I 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.080 think the other thing that it's important to note is 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.080 it actually worries me. Some of the things that have 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.880 been said is that Tim Walls doesn't want to be president. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.760 He's not desiring to be president. Maybe they mean right now, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.359 but I want to make sure that whomever is in 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.840 that second seat is ready on day one if anything happened. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.320 So I don't think there's anything wrong with ambition. I 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.159 think blind ambition is dangerous, but I don't think that 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.240 that's what we're dealing with here. A lot's been said 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.159 about Josh Shapiro, but I just agree with Andrew that 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.080 he definitely has the trajectory to one day become president. 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.959 He is truly a star. He has it. We know 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.119 what that it is. Some musicable minds disagree, but I 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:42.200 think he has it. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:43.040 That's right. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:44.439 So that's what I want to say about that. 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.760 Please, really, I love it. The last point I just 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.440 want to make isn't it isn't it? I don't know 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.800 if y'all perceive this as well, but I got the 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:58.320 feeling that Walls could say some things that one Vice 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.879 President Harris would never say. You could see her behind 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.080 him sort of, you know, in the picture frame with 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.199 some of his comments. But what he offers her is 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.480 the ability for him to really go toe to toe 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.400 back and forth with Dvance and Trump on their level, 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.000 should he choose to go there and frankly not have 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.960 the scourge and scorn of the media and quite frankly 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.760 the white majority saying that she's out of place, out 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:30.399 of pocket to all the other things that she gets. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.000 And I guess when I'm saying, if I had to abbreviate, 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.600 it would be he brings a white male's privilege and 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.719 all that comes with it to the ticket, and I 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.640 believe that it will be extended as leverage when necessary 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.359 to give her the cover that she needs for some 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:50.200 of the outrageous crap that we already know has come 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:51.560 and will continue to come her way. 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:55.639