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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to episode one seven one of

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Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory podcast. Your host, it is Thursday evening,

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Speaker 1: it is Opening Day, and I'm joined by two two

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Speaker 1: of my co hosts on the show. They are Sean

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Speaker 1: Coleman and Steven Tolbert. One of my co hosts coming

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Speaker 1: off of a fantastic college basketball win. The other one

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Speaker 1: is as nervous as I am about the games on

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Speaker 1: Friday nights.

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Speaker 2: It was a rough day, Let's be honest. Opening Day.

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Speaker 2: It was a rough day, not the way anybody wanted

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Speaker 2: to start. It did help me a lot that Bama

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Speaker 2: played immediately after and then just beat the piss out

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Speaker 2: of by U. But yeah, we got a lot to talk.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be an interesting show because we've

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Speaker 2: got some things to discuss about what went down today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just glad Opening days here. Was excited all day.

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Speaker 3: Was excited to see how the start of the game

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Speaker 3: was with the offense and Chris Sale.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just gonna come out and say it, you know,

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Speaker 4: no no, no no filter here. You just hope that

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Speaker 4: what happened today is not a microcosm of what we

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Speaker 4: see happen throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: So that is certainly the case, and we should say

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Speaker 1: at the top of this show in case we have

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Speaker 1: some new listeners. I would imagine if the Braves once today,

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Speaker 1: we might have a few more new listeners than we

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Speaker 1: do after the Braves loss. It's just the way things

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Speaker 1: happened to go. But hey, it's a new season. We

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Speaker 1: are Hammer Territory. We are part of the Foalad Territory

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Speaker 1: network of podcasts cover the Braves all year round. There

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Speaker 1: are four of us that we do basically different pairings, trios,

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Speaker 1: quartets along the way. Our fourth, Scott clonb, was not here,

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Speaker 1: but we wanted to go. We wanted to go three

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Speaker 1: man on this opening day recap episode. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's our fourth show since Sunday night, so we've been

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Speaker 1: very busy all week long. Download tell your friends subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. But we're gonna be diving in basically

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Speaker 1: entirely to what became a seven to four loss for

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Speaker 1: the Braves on opening Day. A lot to get to

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Speaker 1: from this one. As if Shawn's gonna be a pessimistic

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Speaker 1: we're all in deep trouble. Shawn's the resident optimist on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. If we've already broken Shawn after one day,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long season. I'm kind of kidding,

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Speaker 1: but no, it's you know, the Braves did have a

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Speaker 1: lead for large porches not they were not at any

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Speaker 1: point with the Braves in a dominant position in this game.

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Speaker 1: They only led by one run at a time. It

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Speaker 1: was four to three going to the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: seventh inning. And then as we'll get into in more

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Speaker 1: depth later on, the bullpen and perhaps the bullpen management.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for you guys to the

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Speaker 1: willpen management was not my favorite thing today in the game.

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Speaker 1: Let the Braves down. I guess we'll start here. What

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Speaker 1: is the biggest takeaway? Seann already kind of gave one,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a right one. Like, hopefully this's

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Speaker 1: not being foreshap with Stephen. What was your like, all right,

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Speaker 1: now that you've had four hours to kind of decompress,

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Speaker 1: do you have a number one lead takeaway from the

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Speaker 1: from the game? Is it just that it's it's one game?

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Speaker 1: Or is it like are you panicking? What's what's in

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Speaker 1: the mind of Stephen Tolbert on a Thursday On a

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Speaker 2: I was thinking during the game, I was thinking what

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Speaker 2: is the best Like, if you were coming up with

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Speaker 2: the formula, what is the best formula for having people

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Speaker 2: panic the most after one game? Like, what is what

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Speaker 2: most people to panic after one game? And what I

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Speaker 2: or the weakest part of the team is the reason

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Speaker 2: you lose game one, I think the panic meter goes

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Speaker 2: been a little bit of panic because of what happened

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's well said basically as to like

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Speaker 1: long story. Sure, I think you're right. If you were

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Speaker 1: a close loss for some reason, just a genders more reaction.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine, whereas the bullpen doing this is

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Speaker 1: less exciting. Sean, do you agree with that sentiment generally speaking.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 3: In terms of I do think a blue out loss

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Speaker 3: It just wasn't our day. It just, you know, because

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Speaker 3: I feel like I could go myself do a solo

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Speaker 3: why I question what Brian Snicker did. But the reason

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Speaker 3: why I'm not meaning to hit the panic button. But

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Speaker 3: I do feel it is relevant to be a bit

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Speaker 3: concerned with how today's game went is because it's not

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Speaker 3: just about today's game. The same thing that has been

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Speaker 3: management showed up today. And the problem is the problem

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Speaker 3: more important that Brian Snicker be on point with his

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Speaker 3: thing that concerns me about this is that he wasn't

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Speaker 3: trust this person over y'all. I'm not saying that causes

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Speaker 3: negativity on the team, but there are just so many

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Speaker 3: ripple effects from what happened today. In my opinion, it's

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Speaker 3: just frustrating because we've seen it time and time again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's certainly well said, and I do

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Speaker 1: and foremost. Maybe we tign the list a process driven podcast.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to go through the details, go through it's

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Speaker 1: not always the results. The process is important too. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into all of that and more after it worked

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Speaker 3: A band boots.

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Speaker 6: Now watch Badger and not be guys, I'm just goddamn

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, guys, let us dig in to what

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Speaker 1: by saying this. The Raids are up four to three

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Speaker 1: it is. It's a close game. Dylan Lee is good.

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Speaker 1: We are a pro Dylan Lee podcast. The Braves have

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Speaker 1: four guys that we I think we all seem to

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Speaker 1: to Sean because Shann's the one to tea us up

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Speaker 1: on this, and then Stephen will weigh in. But what

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Speaker 1: the damage was kind of not all the way done,

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Speaker 1: but it was mostly done already. Sean, were you as

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Speaker 1: I was freaking out as Naras came in or was

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Speaker 1: it just where were you at during that?

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Speaker 3: It was a pivotal moment, like like it clearly was,

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Speaker 3: you know, the opportunity for Snicker to show, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: he went with the questionable move? And that's the other

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Speaker 3: see in this scenario, is that Brian Snicker coming into

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Speaker 3: also are this is a bigger game than most right

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Speaker 1: Steve, and I want you to dig into what you

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Speaker 2: So I always like to listen when I can. I

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Speaker 2: Did he bring in Hector Narius because he's got seven

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Speaker 2: it's not as big a problem because I disagree with that,

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Speaker 2: But you need win this game, quite honestly, because of

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Speaker 5: Win the game.

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Speaker 2: So I disagree with that, but I can get over

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Speaker 2: this is the spot where normally they ice this. They

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Speaker 2: they knocked this out like this has never been his problem, snicker.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about with his bullpen. So he did say

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Speaker 2: which I know sounds crazy on opening day. He does

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Speaker 5: We've just never seen before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what got me too. And isn't not about

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about Hectre Nurres, Hector Nerris has

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Speaker 1: He's in his mid thirties. He should be your seventh guy,

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Speaker 1: probably in the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to say Suarez, who they just

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Speaker 1: one run game. Like you said, it doesn't get more

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Speaker 1: added to the bullpen. We said that this winner. This

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Speaker 1: Was somebody better?

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Speaker 1: But you still shouldn't be using your seventh reliever in

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Speaker 2: Well, that's I think that's where the disconnect is with

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Speaker 1: And Dylan by the way, Dylan Lee's had the same problem.

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Speaker 2: Dylaney's exact same thing when fans see him bring in

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Speaker 2: What that tells fans is what you believe. Hector Norris

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that's just I just remembered this so

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Speaker 2: daves Bill Hernandez could really take a step and be

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Speaker 2: a significant right handed, high leverage reliever for them. He

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Speaker 2: never pitched he's Is he behind Hector Nerris on the

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Speaker 2: depth chart? And that is that what you're saying. If

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Speaker 2: he's behind Hector Nrris on the depth chart, then you

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Speaker 2: got to go get a reliever in the off season.

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Speaker 2: If he's not behind him, then you got to pitch

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Speaker 2: him there. One of them has to be true. And

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Speaker 2: that's that's I mean that, And that's where you get

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Speaker 2: the you get the frustrations. It's not just about the

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Speaker 2: one game. It's about what the one game says. Is

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Speaker 2: Hector Norris the third best? Do they think Hector Rris

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Speaker 2: the third best.

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Speaker 3: Reliever by this team?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I hope not. But if they do, that's a problem.

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Speaker 5: And I think that.

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Speaker 3: The other thing about it is is that you know, again,

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Speaker 3: you know, me and Stephen talked about it, Brad, you

449
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Speaker 3: know a few weeks ago about how we were in

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Speaker 3: the middle of spring training, and especially about the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: That the questions that were there at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: spring training were still there in the middle of spring

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Speaker 3: trading towards the end of it, and they were being

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Speaker 3: asked even louder, and it was mainly about the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to sit here and you know,

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Speaker 3: try to give some you know, raw ross speech, some

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Speaker 3: you know, encouraging speech or pep talk or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: But when you have a bullpen that for now, for

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Speaker 3: this Braves team has more questions about it than past

460
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Speaker 3: Braves team, it becomes even more to have an established hierarchy.

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Speaker 3: It becomes even more to know that your manager is

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Speaker 3: going to make the right decisions based on matchups, are

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Speaker 3: based on where you are in the games, and he's

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Speaker 3: consistent with those decisions. And the other big thing for

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Speaker 3: me is that he's got confidence in his relievers, somebody

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Speaker 3: like Dasbol Hernandez, something that's going to help him, something

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Speaker 3: that's going to improve the odds that he is going

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Speaker 3: to deliver on. What we hope he can be is

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Speaker 3: not only him knowing his role, but knowing that he's

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Speaker 3: going to consistently be used in that role. To be

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Speaker 3: able to perform. So that's kind of those ripple effects

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Speaker 3: that I think that we're all talking about. Is that again, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's just one game, but many of the things that

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Speaker 3: we cannot see happen consistently happened in this game. There's

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Speaker 3: got to be hierarchy, there's got to be trust, there's

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Speaker 3: got to be confidence. Obviously, there still can be those things.

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Speaker 3: It's not the best start though, when it comes to

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Speaker 3: knowing that those things are there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think we all know this,

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Speaker 1: and there's a frustration, but the hope would be it's

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Speaker 1: not indicative of that's what's going to happen. It is

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Speaker 1: one game. Well, I think our brand prop we don't

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Speaker 1: want to overreact. Obviously, we're sharing some strong opinions because

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Speaker 1: I think we all were frustrated by what happened today,

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Speaker 1: But it is one game. We'll learn more information. This

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Speaker 1: does not mean this guy is falling about the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: This does not mean anything beyond they lost the game

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Speaker 1: today in the game that was, in our opinion, poorly

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Speaker 1: managed at the end. That's the story of the game.

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Speaker 6: For me.

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Speaker 1: It's why we're talking about it for as long as

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Speaker 1: we are on the show on this one game Reaction

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Speaker 1: podcast because they were leading the game. There are other

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Speaker 1: things that we'll talk about on the show, but that

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Speaker 1: is for me and I think for almost everybody that

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Speaker 1: you know social media in real life. But the reaction

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Speaker 1: was basically like the story after the game. So we

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Speaker 1: live with that and we'll have more coming up in

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Speaker 1: a second. I promise you on other things that happened

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Speaker 1: in this game, even some hold your breath guys, potentially

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let us dive in more to what

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Speaker 1: happened beyond the bullpen in this game. There was luck

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Speaker 1: going on. I promise you dealers choice, it'll save the

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Speaker 1: overall offensive approach. Would you make a Chris Sale I'll

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Speaker 1: ask that question because Christale was not like incredibly dominant

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Speaker 1: by Christale bills incredibly lofty standard in this game. But uh,

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Speaker 1: anything concerning anything encouraging, you know, five innings, six hits,

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Speaker 1: three runs, start out seven to one walk like you know.

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Speaker 1: Some of the underline stuff was fine, but anybody have

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Speaker 1: anything alarming about Crisoa or just like kind of one

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Speaker 1: of those days where he didn't have his absolute best stuff.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I'll say quickly is is that he

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Speaker 3: just a game like this for me actually, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're talking about the fact that I would

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Speaker 3: have rather seen a blowout loss than a close loss

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Speaker 3: like this, and that may not make sense, but a

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Speaker 3: game like this for me actually kind of gives me

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Speaker 3: more trust in Chris Sale than a dominant game against

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Speaker 3: you know, a team that's not that good. The reason

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Speaker 3: that I say that is because Chris obviously didn't have

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Speaker 3: his best stuff at the first of the game. You know,

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Speaker 3: control was a bit you know, questionable, thirty pitches, gave

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Speaker 3: up two runs in the first INNA a very unlike

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Speaker 3: Chris So experience. But he came right back out, got

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Speaker 3: right back into his stuff, and was able to get

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Speaker 3: the job done in terms of keeping the Braves in

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Speaker 3: the game against one of the better pitchers in the

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Speaker 3: National League, a pitcher who just six months ago absolutely

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Speaker 3: dominated us in game one of the NLDS. That to

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Speaker 3: me shows that Chris Sale, even though he may not

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Speaker 3: have his best stuff on any given day, he's still

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Speaker 3: going to do enough to keep the Braves in the game,

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Speaker 3: no matter how quality quality of an opponent that he's facing.

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Speaker 3: I know, we all know this. It was just good

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Speaker 3: to see even though he didn't have his best stuff,

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Speaker 3: he still did enough to make sure that the Braves

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Speaker 3: were in the game and in a position to win

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Speaker 3: once he left it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I have to go back and look.

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Speaker 2: I think the worst game Chris Saille pitched last year

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Speaker 2: was his first game in the season.

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Speaker 5: I remember correctly.

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Speaker 2: He did not have a good start his first I

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Speaker 2: think it was in Philadelphia, and then he was just

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Speaker 2: nails after that. So I don't worry about Chrisseille at

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Speaker 2: all as long as he's healthy. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you and Scott said it all year last year, but

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Speaker 2: when he's healthy, he's good. And so as long as

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Speaker 2: he's healthy, I don't I don't really care about one outing.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't his best.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't look sharp, but again it's it's

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Speaker 2: early April, his first start of the year.

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Speaker 5: He'll lock in.

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Speaker 2: I have zero, negative, zero concerns about Chris Shale.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I just looked this up from

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Speaker 1: last year. He had one uh and I remember this

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Speaker 1: now I've forgotten this. He had one, like only one

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Speaker 1: all year long, actual like blow up start last year

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Speaker 1: and it was against Oakland.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I remember that eight runs against Oakland.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, he got hammered by Oakland, which

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Speaker 1: is very very funny when to pick back on it

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Speaker 1: was what was his first start? He he was it

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Speaker 1: was such a similar to this one. He threw five

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Speaker 1: and a third and a in the loss of the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: Like he wasn't great, he was just fine in that game.

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Speaker 1: He had one against Miami or in the year where

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Speaker 1: you have five runs, I might be only thinking about two.

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Speaker 1: But like once he settled in, like from basically late

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Speaker 1: April long, I think he's ra a was like in

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Speaker 1: the ones or something stupid after the first three or

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Speaker 1: four starts. So he was incredible, And I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried at all. It's just we saw him

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Speaker 1: pitch today. That was a weird story. I do want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the offense, and I want to do

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Speaker 1: in just a second, but I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: guys both about the offense and the approach of the offense.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of was getting to a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier with the There was some positives in this game.

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Speaker 1: I think one of them people were kind of noticing

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Speaker 1: that I trust anyway, was like the approach was a

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Speaker 1: bit better. It's one game, but they took six walks

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Speaker 1: for instance. That's encouraging, I would say for a team,

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Speaker 1: but just not take a lot of walks. One of

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Speaker 1: the guys who was brand new, of course, is Jerks

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Speaker 1: and Profar who didn't walk but saw a lot of

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Speaker 1: pitches in this game, was a leadoff hitter and the

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Speaker 1: way he was operating. What did you guys make of that?

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Speaker 1: Generally speaking, as far as like I was, so Ont's

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Speaker 1: scored four runs. They had some mistakes too, Like they

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Speaker 1: had some misopportunities which were all too fro murder from

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Speaker 1: last year. I will say, but Steve, what do you

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Speaker 1: think of the way the offense looked through exactly one

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Speaker 1: base pointing.

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Speaker 2: I thought it looked great. I was so incurrent like

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Speaker 2: a couple things. First of all, the number of pitches

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Speaker 2: they saw, the number of walks they took tremendous indicators

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Speaker 2: of success later when you're seeing that many pitches. Second

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Speaker 2: of all, they were, like I combined, two feet away

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Speaker 2: from having another four runs on the board because they

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Speaker 2: had two homers caught basically at the top of the wall,

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Speaker 2: base runners everywhere they saw. I remember tweeting this out.

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Speaker 2: It was the top of the fourth inning. There was

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Speaker 2: two outs and they had seen one hundred and seven

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Speaker 2: pitches between Michael King and the guy they brought in

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Speaker 2: after King. So Profar, I mean, I said it on

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Speaker 2: the last show we did before the season start. Profar,

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Speaker 2: I think is an absolutely perfect addition to this lineup.

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Speaker 2: I think I actually I'm gonna end up liking him

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Speaker 2: more and lead off and Ronnie batting second when Ronnie

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Speaker 2: gets back than maybe the alternative. But you know, that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a fun problem to talk about.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, there's a couple of bats.

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Speaker 2: There was one with Oz the first inning where I

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Speaker 2: thought we got a little bit back to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four Braves. But other than that, it was really solid,

647
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Speaker 2: and you know, Austin had to line out. Austin rowdy

648
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: had a line out like one hundred and twelve min

649
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: or a line out with runners or at least one

650
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: runner in scoring pitches, it very easily could have been five, six, seven,

651
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: eight runs today. So by process I was really encouraged.

652
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was fantastic, exactly what I wanted to see.

653
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: So many pitches, so many walks, so many opportunities. They

654
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: didn't cash in on them. But by process, that was

655
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: a good game.

656
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: I want to throw it to Sean, but one wants

657
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: that to add there. To Steven, the Padres threw one

658
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five pitches in nine innings in this game,

659
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: so obviously you want more runs. We all understand that.

660
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: But process wise, I was encouraged. To Sean, what did

661
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: you make of it? And I know you want to

662
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the missed opportunities that were

663
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: there too, because look that they did have some and

664
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: they didn't score off for us to win the game.

665
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: So that's part of the two.

666
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: And to Steven's point, you know, I think the positives

667
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: outweigh the negatives at the end of the day. Is

668
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: more often than not, if you have the approach that

669
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: we have during this game, you're going to see better results.

670
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: But the thing that I will say is this is that, yeah,

671
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: it is a bit makes you a bit queasy. It's

672
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: a bit uneasy when it comes to seeing those big

673
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: at bats, especially those two outs with runners in scoring

674
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: positions early in the game, where where you know that,

675
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: hey man, we've got to get this run. We really

676
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: could use this opportunity, and it doesn't occur, and then

677
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: that second time happens, that third time happens, and even

678
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: if it's unlucky, it still is a missed opportunity that

679
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: did not work out. The reason why I have a

680
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: bit of uneasiness about it is that I don't necessarily

681
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: think that it's going to be a repeat of last season.

682
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: But it goes back to me too. If the bullpen

683
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: is as potentially unreliable as it might be, if this

684
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: game happens again and again and again, that's got to

685
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: put more pressure on other parts of the Braves be

686
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: an elite as possible. The starting rotation, for instance, being

687
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: among the best in the league once again, which it

688
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: very much could be. The offense being among the best

689
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: in the league again, which it very much could be,

690
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: but it has to be. That's what makes me a

691
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: bit uneasy, gives us a little less room for error.

692
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: But setting all that negativity aside, I'm going to go

693
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: back to, you know, being the positive Sean because that's

694
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: that's where I'm most natural. The thing that I will

695
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: say also, that really really encourages me is that the

696
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: top four we're all productive in today's game, Jerks and

697
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Profar as well as Austin Riley. Austin Riley looked like

698
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: he was July. Austin Riley, who if you need to

699
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 3: go look up the stats, please do. He's unbelievable mid

700
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: June to July. He looked that locked in. But that

701
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: top four, if they're locked in, I have that answers

702
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: a lot of questions for this team. And it's even

703
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: before he had Ronald Acunya Junior back. So if we

704
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: want to talk about a big positive from the game, yes,

705
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: the takeaway is the offense looked to the level that

706
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: we had hoped it would look in this game. The

707
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: hope is that a bit more of these runs can

708
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: cash in, and obviously the pitching at the end of

709
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: the game can support it. But not much to complain

710
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: about the offense, especially the top four, and hey, Drake Baldwin.

711
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: He had a pretty good game as well, a walk,

712
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: couple of good hits that you know, unfortunately didn't fall.

713
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: I think overall he had a pretty good day at

714
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: the plate. So really encouraged by his debut.

715
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,280
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Speaker 1: want to pick up or shan left off and agree

729
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: with you on drake Ball and Drake Bowl will look

730
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: fine to me today. But there was a question or

731
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: probably seventeen questions that we got that were very similar

732
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: about him kind of and basically the Patrey's kind of

733
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: ran wild if you time in this game on the

734
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: bass pass. Then they ended up with five stolen bases,

735
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: a couple of them were at a third base, which

736
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: is not normally what you would see, And people were

737
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: asking us what we thought of that and how much

738
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: of that was on Baldwin or so much that was

739
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: on the pitcher, And I think part of why people

740
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: were asking even more was because it was Baldwin's debut

741
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: and they haven't seen him play a lot, and he's

742
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: this new guy. It's like, okay, is this going to

743
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: be the Baldwin experience all the time? So what did

744
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: you think of why the Braves were giving up some

745
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: extra bases that ended up kind of biting him a

746
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: couple times in this game?

747
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a problem.

748
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: I mean they I think twice they gave up second

749
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: base to a runner and then like the next pitch

750
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: or two pitches later, he ends up scoring.

751
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: So Snit actually talked about this post game.

752
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: This is another thing I wanted to hear him talk about,

753
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: and he pretty much put it on the PI. He

754
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: pretty much said we've got to do a better job

755
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: holding runners. If you actually watched the game, Drake Baldwin

756
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: didn't have a chance. I mean, these were like walking

757
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: almost running leads that these hit. I mean, Manny Machado,

758
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: who's a million years old, he runs like a mailbox,

759
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: had two stolen bases in this game because of how

760
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: massive the leads they were getting.

761
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 5: And there must have been something in the Scotting.

762
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: Report on sale about one of guys at second. You know,

763
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: they were basically guessing that he wasn't even gonna stop

764
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: and look over, and they were getting these massive leads.

765
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, Snidth said postgame that the pitchers have to

766
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: do a better job of looking over, of pausing, of

767
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: disrupting your normal rhythm, so guys can't guess on you

768
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: like that.

769
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: But it was a big problem and it did cost

770
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 5: the Braves.

771
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there was multiple rallies that the Padres had

772
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: that would have been smaller had their Braves not immediately

773
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: given up extra bases to God. I mean, you know,

774
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: you give up a stolen base to Tatis, all right,

775
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: that's what you know. Tatis is an elite athlete. Manny

776
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Machado has two stolen bases in a game. Again, you

777
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: need to correct something because that's the pitchers are not

778
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: doing their job there. I thought Drake actually looked pretty good.

779
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: He was really quick on the release, strong throws, but

780
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: I just didn't think he had a chance.

781
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: So you heard your first, folks, strick ball went innocent

782
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: according to Stephen, and I tend to agree, by the way.

783
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, other than that, we can talk about like

784
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: wine construction if you guys want to. I know Steve

785
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: already briefly mentioned something about prefore leading off, even with

786
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: Ronnie Back, it was kind of a surprise to see

787
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Ozzie hitting fifth against the rty. Maybe not surprising, just

788
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: not my favorite thing in the world. Ozzy's not a

789
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: great left handed hitter, but it is what it is.

790
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: And then people were commenting as well about how Jared

791
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Keelnick was hitting ninth behind the arcia against a righty.

792
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: That's probably not the greatest example of confidence and Jered Kelnick,

793
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: anybody have a take about that? And we're anything else, honestly,

794
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: because we're in the wrap up portion of this of

795
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: this game, because we're kind of orderlaying it out. But Sean,

796
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: do you have any strong Wina construction takes that you

797
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: want to go for just Thursday.

798
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 3: Night, I probably would have put Michael Harris fifth above

799
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Ozzie obvious, But listen, Ozzie, you know he did his

800
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: job in the game. Yeah, it's hard to argue against that.

801
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: And you know what, Listen, if Ozzie wants to sit

802
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: here and and have a great season from the less

803
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: side of the played against right handed pitchers, okay, we'll

804
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: take that. But overall, I thought the lineup construction was fine.

805
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I think that there

806
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: are many positives to take away from this game. I

807
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: think there's reason to be encouraged from this game. Not

808
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: to beat a dead horse.

809
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 5: It just goes back to the one.

810
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: The one reason we lost was the biggest concern we

811
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: had throughout spring training, and that naturally is going to

812
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: be what everyone kind of looks at. But it's in

813
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: the past. It's taken care of. The big thing now

814
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: is what do you do as a reaction. What do

815
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: you do now that this has occurred. I know it's

816
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: just one game, but the concerns that many had came

817
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: up and were a big reason that it cost you

818
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: the game. What snicker what's the rest of the team

819
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: going to do to bounce back like we fully know

820
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: that they're capable of, and it's been a calling card

821
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: for this team. This team has been so good at

822
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: bouncing back. I'm not trying to get overreactor make too

823
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: much out of one game, but it was a significant

824
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: loss in terms of how they did it. How do

825
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: they bounce back to maybe get an unexpected win on

826
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: this road trip to make up for it whit tomorrow

827
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: for instance.

828
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I did want to mention one thing about

829
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: the lineup because Snicker actually brought this up post game

830
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: as well, and I actually thought this during the game.

831
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: I remember thinking this, this team is so much more

832
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: capable against right handed pitching because of how balanced it is.

833
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: How many more left handers are in the lineup. You know,

834
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: you add Profar, you add Drake Baldwin, obviously Keller Nick

835
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: is playing with Ronnie out.

836
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: There's just more.

837
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: It's just harder for right handed pitchers to get through

838
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: this lineup than it has ever has been in a

839
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: long long time. I mean, we've been talking about adding

840
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: more left handed pitching to this lineup for like four

841
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: years now, and I remember watching the game thinking Michael

842
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: King had a much easier time facing last year's team,

843
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: not only because of the personnel, but because of the

844
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: handedness of the personnel. The platoon advantage the Braves have

845
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: created by having more lefties and essentially not solving, but

846
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: very much helping a problem they've had against right handed

847
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: pitching was very noticeable in this game to me, and again,

848
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: if you're looking at process, if you're trying to project forward,

849
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: how patient they were, how many walks they took, they're

850
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: bat at ball quality, even.

851
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: The ones that were out.

852
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: How they're so much more protected against right handed pitching

853
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: than they've been in the past. Like the offense is

854
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: a really big positive coming out of this first game.

855
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: I know they lost, and I know they those scored

856
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: four runs, but again, by process, there were some things

857
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: I really liked in Game one.

858
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think if you take an account

859
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: opponent that was a pitcher, Michael King's good for instance,

860
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't great today, but he's he's a good pitcher. Ballpark,

861
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: how many pitchers were thrown all of it, and say

862
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Speaker 1: did the Brison have a good offensive game or not?

863
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Speaker 1: I would say yes, I think they had an encouraging

864
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Speaker 1: offensive game. It didn't break their way as far as

865
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Speaker 1: the score wars concerned, but that was not a problem.

866
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Speaker 1: If anything, it was I think we were all in agreement,

867
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Speaker 1: like a relative positive there moving forward into into Friday

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Speaker 1: and beyond. Look, we did a little bit of a

869
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Speaker 1: preview Scott and I on Wednesday evening. But the Braves

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00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: to have three more games in this series, and of

871
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: course they are three after this in Los Angeles. Probably

872
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: the biggest you know, headline starting pitching matchup, maybe the

873
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: entire day in baseball. At least. One of the top

874
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: couple is Renald Lopez gainst Dylan Cees on Friday. Dylan Cees,

875
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: of course a mildly rumored trade target this winter for

876
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: the Braves for a few minutes. That didn't happen, of course,

877
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: but he's good and Lopez coming off a great season.

878
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: He didn't look great in the spring. I will say

879
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: it was according to me in my eyes, but I

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00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: think when I was good, and that'd be a nice

881
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: little showdown. I want to look at the Betty market.

882
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet about like who's favorite the game?

883
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: But who cares? It's just baseball, you know. Uh, the

884
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Braves might be Yeah, the Braves are actually uh favored again,

885
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: I believe look at this now, but it doesn't really matter.

886
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: Anybody have anything that you're looking for in the game

887
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: on Friday that's particularly interesting beyond like this rnond Olypis

888
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: look like renal olypees.

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00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 5: I want to see if they get a lead, what

890
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: do they do?

891
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm being dead soon on the l Dale with Santos

892
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: in the ninth inning.

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00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I want to like, I want to know

894
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: what the hierarchy of this bullpen is, or maybe more accurately,

895
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: I want to know what they think.

896
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 5: The hierarchy of this bullpen. And I know what I think,

897
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: but what I think doesn't matter. I want to know

898
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 5: what they think.

899
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: And based on today, I have no idea what they

900
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: think because they don't think what I think.

901
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: So I know if we if we see Suarez in

902
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: a in a tight game on Friday, you might have

903
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: to have Steven be accompanied. We have question professionals.

904
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 5: We're gonna have questions.

905
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: I will admit I'm the I have been the pessimist

906
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: on the bullpen of the four of us. I know

907
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: that I've had more questions about the bullpen. I'm okay

908
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: with the top guys in this bullpen.

909
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: I really am.

910
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: I like the top guys in this bullpen. I'm just

911
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: not confident. Snit thinks who I think the top four

912
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: guys are. He thinks the top four guys are. And

913
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: so that's what I want to see. I want to

914
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: I want to get in another situation like this and

915
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: see what who the guys are that come out of

916
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: the bullpen, because that's a massive part of the story

917
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: of the season, and it's pretty it's a pretty unanswered

918
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: it's a pretty large unanswered question at this.

919
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: Moment, Sean anything you're circling for Friday and beyond. As

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00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: the Brats Padres continued their clash in San Diego, the

921
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: one thing.

922
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: That I am very interested to see is that so

923
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: so Dylan Cees last year had two starts against the Braves.

924
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: One we got to him, we had success against him.

925
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: That was actually in I believe San Diego. The other

926
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 3: was a dominant start for him. Know that the dominant

927
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 3: start was in San Diego, and then he struggled against

928
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: us in Atlanta. But with Dylan Cees, when you compare

929
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: him to Michael King, I think that Michael King has

930
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: a bit more control as well. As he uses a

931
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: bit more of the offspeed movement with his stuff, Dylan

932
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: sees his pure power. Right. I want to see at

933
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Speaker 3: the Braves offense goes with the same approach once again,

934
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: because there's no doubt that they created the opportunities. There's

935
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 3: no doubts that they had plenty of good vibes going

936
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: throughout the game. Let's see them facing another type of

937
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: pitcher who has you know, top of you know, the

938
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: rotation type stuff. Obviously, I want to see them be

939
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: able to put the same type of offensive approach two

940
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 3: games in a row, and let's see if this time around. Heck,

941
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: who knows, they may only be able to score four

942
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: or five runs again, but if they can again put

943
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: the same approach, there good patience seeing a lot of

944
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: pitches getting some opportunities. Eventually those opportunities are going to happen.

945
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: So the offense, when facing two quality who had different

946
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: approaches to their success, if the Brakes can remain consistent

947
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: with their offensive approach, that's going to be a positive

948
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: sign for me.

949
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: Well, there you have it, folks. Three more to go

950
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: in San Diego and then three in Los Angeles. That

951
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: is a Free Man podcast on a Thursday evening and

952
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: less one more time as I try to play point

953
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: guard on this Thursday evening guys of a basketball reference,

954
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I got it. The resident Alabama fat who has a

955
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: Winner of the Belt today, is nodding along. But we

956
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: can sign off now. I just you know, I'm glad

957
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: we got to talk with the three of us under

958
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: not great circumstances, but we are here talking about baseball.

959
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: We will have more content, so if you're a new

960
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: listener or a recurring listener, honestly, we'll have more podcasts.

961
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly when. Maybe maybe we'll pop in

962
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: over the weekend at the very latest, move back on

963
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Sunday at the very latest, and then of course beyond

964
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Speaker 1: that and late nights. And that's the thing about West

965
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: Coast trips, fellas, is a lot of late nights on

966
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: the horizon. They got a little bit of a break

967
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: in this first weekend series, but the LA games are

968
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: not early starts. So we'll say that out loud. Uh

969
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: where can they find everybody's work? Steven Sean plug yourselves

970
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: on the way out.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, be on the score outliers on X.

972
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: Sean and I are still right over at Battery power

973
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: periodically here and there, but obviously Hammer territory is is

974
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: where you're gonna see all the all the takes in

975
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Speaker 2: the podcast, So appreciate all the support.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, stats sac on on Twitter. I haven't really learned

977
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Speaker 3: Instagram or any of the others.

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00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, what's your what's your snapshot?

979
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Speaker 3: I I'm sorry who you?

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00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: Uh?

981
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that sac on Twitter, slash x A

982
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: lot of crappy Grizzlies takes a lot of you know,

983
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: occasional you know, decent Braves takes. But all in all,

984
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: just really excited the season is here. I've gotten my

985
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: negativity out of the way. The great thing about baseball,

986
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: the wonderful thing about baseball, a wonderful thing about baseball

987
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: is that ninety percent of the time during the season,

988
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: if you have a crappy day, you have the opportunity

989
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: to make up for it the very next day. And

990
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: that's why I'm so happy that the season this year.

991
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: So go Braves, get it done. Let's get to one

992
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: in one and hopefully 'nando Lopez will be able to

993
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: show that last year was not necessarily all that stuff

994
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: about maybe being a fluke.

995
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: He can get the job done.

996
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 3: Tomorrow. It'll be an excellent start in multiple ways.

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00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: This is why the Sean and Steven partnership works so well.

998
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: Sean can level it out when Steven is in the

999
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: muck and vice versa. We're living the dream here. I'm

1000
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: just I'm just observing. I'm just I'm just having fun.

1001
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: On Thursday, we miss sure he made that percentage up

1002
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: by the way. He said, yes, you know, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: it is.

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00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: It is what it is, and listen, ninety percent of

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00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: the time it's true.

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00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: Something like that's close. Listen, Sean and I have college

1007
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: basketball to watch on Friday. I could say it's with

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Speaker 1: a one hundred, well not one hundred, Sey comments a

1009
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Speaker 1: lot of confidence. There are more Auburn fans that listen

1010
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: to the show than Michigan fans, so I'm outnumbered almost certainly.

1011
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: And then Shawn's gonna do with Wi Kentucky fans, and

1012
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: that's a whole that's a whole football game. So there's

1013
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: lots of lots of clashes going on Friday night.

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00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: But Steven, are you guys not in the Are you

1015
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: guys not in the Elite eight yet?

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00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: Uh?

1017
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Speaker 1: Not yet? And I don't think my team's gonna get there.

1018
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: We'll see about Shahn's team. Shawn seems favorite to get there.

1019
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: My team is not favorite to get there. The ball,

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Speaker 1: Shawn's feel, and Shawn's feeling confident. All right, Everybody that's

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Speaker 1: enough of this, please subscribe to the podcast. Also check

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