1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: Michael Varry Show is on the air. It's Charlie from 3 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good one coming on. 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: It's the Michael Berry Show. 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: You don't know how great things are going in this 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: country right now? I can tell the Greg Mitt Romney, 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: who is the epitome of the Republican establishment that hates 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Trump and more importantly, hates you and your involvement in 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: the process. That's the thanks you get for supporting for 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: supporting his sorry self. In twenty twelve, when he ran 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: that horrible election campaign that allowed that allowed Barack Obama 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: to serve four more years, Mitt Romney was on CNN 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: with Jake Tapper and are you ready for this? You 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: know this is the case. Mitt Romney knows this is 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: the case. But Mitt Romney admitted that MAGA is now 16 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: the Republican Party. 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: Do you still think there's going to be a post 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 3: Trump Republican Party or is MAGA now the Republican Party? 19 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: Oh, MAGA is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: the Republican Party today. And if you were to ask 21 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 4: me who the nominee will be in twenty twenty eight, 22 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 4: I think it'll be jd Vance. 23 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: All right. 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: He's smart, well spoken, part of the MAGA movement. 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: You said something pretty harsh about him a few months ago, 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 3: though you could not have less respect for somebody than. 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: Long, long ago. 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: I'm not going to rehash history, and we've worked together in. 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: The Senate since then. But I know that is. 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: What the Republican Party is and will the party need 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: to change. Look, the Republican Party has become the party 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: of the working class, middle class voter, and you've got 33 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: to have Donald Trump credit for having done that, taken 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: that away from the Democrats. 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: And the fact that Mitt Romney did not dominate with 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: the working class in twenty twelve, not just that he 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: didn't win a high enough percentage of them, that people 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: didn't show up to vote, because even though they did 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: not like Barack Obama, they didn't want Mitt Romney. He 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: didn't inspire them. And that is a big, big, big issue. 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: He said he felt the need to criticize Trump's cabinet, 43 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: but then he says something again that suggests maybe, just 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: maybe he's trying to weasele his way into Donald Trump's 45 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: good graces. 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: I know you're not going to be voting on them. 47 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: And I know you're loath to talk about individual ones, 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: but I'm wondering if there's a perception you have of 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: the people he is putting into his administration, which are 50 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: certainly very different than his first administration. 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: Well, a very famous book talked about Abraham Lincoln choosing 52 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: a team of rivals. This is a team of people 53 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: who are very very different, extraordinarily different backgrounds, different perspectives 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: and issues. In some cases, I think even than the president. 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: So an unusual collection of individuals, not the people I 56 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: would have chosen. 57 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: But I lost. 58 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: He won, all right, I'd like to revisit that and win, 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: but I didn't get that chance. 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: And so these are the. 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: Kind of people he wants to run him. 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: He's entitle to that. Now. 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: The Senate has a responsibility to make sure that these 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: people are legitimate, that there's no skeleton that could be 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: an embarrassment to them or the country, and also determine 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: if they're qualified for the position that they've been. 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: Nominated to, and. 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 4: I expect them to carry out that responsibility with conscience 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: and diligence. 70 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: The establishment realizes they've been vanquished. They realized not all 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: of them will admit it, but they know. Bill Crystal knows, 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: the Lincoln Project knows, Adam Kinsinger knows. Liz Cheney and 73 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: her daddy, Dick Cheney know. The Bushes no, Jeb Bush knows. 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: The people don't want them anymore. They represented a Republican 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: Party that could not win because they could not win 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: the hearts and minds of the American working class. They 77 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: had no populist appeal, they had no patriotic appeal. They 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: were trying to cobble together a coalition and it wasn't working. 79 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: We were losing to the Barack Obamas. Because of them. 80 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: You have taken back the reigns of your government. And 81 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: this is a transformative moment. I've watched a lot of elections, 82 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of movements. I got to tell 83 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: you this, it's a powerful, powerful moment. It's a very 84 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: powerful moment. I was around and active in twenty ten 85 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: twenty twelve when we had the rise of the Tea Party, 86 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: but we didn't have a candidate like Trump at the 87 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: top of the ticket that that could really be the 88 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: tip of. 89 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: The steer for this movement. 90 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: For Michael Berry show, if he doesn't say it, then 91 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: who will You may remember the name Alexander Vendman. He's 92 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: a very bad person. He served as a Director of 93 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: European Affairs for the US National Security Council until February 94 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. He rose to national prominence in October 95 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when he testified before Congress as part of 96 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: the Trump Ukraine investigation, and his testimony would play a 97 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: pivotal role in supposedly providing evidence of an alleged abuse 98 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: of power by President Trump, and it would form the 99 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: foundation of the first impeachment of President Trump. Remember they 100 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: impeached him again. As he was walking out the door. 101 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: So this guy of Ukrainian descent said, you know, my 102 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: job is to deal with Ukraine on behalf of the 103 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: United States. And Trump did a bad thing with Ukraine. 104 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: But Trump did which very few people understood, was Trump 105 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: asked the Ukrainian leader, hey did did Biden asked your 106 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: government to pay his son millions through Barisma so he 107 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: could kick it back to him. 108 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: Well, you're not allowed to ask that. 109 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: That's a horrible thing. Why aren't you allowed to ask that? 110 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: That's exactly what are the United States president should be asking. 111 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: And in fact, we now know, that's one of the 112 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 2: things the Ukrainian bribe payments through unter Biden to his father. 113 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: That's one of the things that he pardoned him of, 114 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: so he wouldn't be charged. So Alexander Vinman, who helped 115 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: make all this happen, he's part of the deep state, 116 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: He's part of the problem. He was on MSNBC. Well, 117 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: he's still backpeddaling, and he said Donald Trump and Elon 118 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Musk are useful idiots for Putin. You know, you've got 119 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: people in this country who have been sending money to Ukraine, 120 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: some of which gets kicked back in bribes. When you 121 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: look at how many American families are, in one way 122 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: or another, prominent powerful American families involved with Ukraine, just 123 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: as with Haiti, it becomes very disturbing and you start 124 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: realizing quite quickly that all the justifications for US to 125 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: send so many billion dollars Ukraine are not because Russia 126 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: is coming. 127 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: To get you. It's because it's kickback money. 128 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: It's because it's being spent for the overlords who were 129 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: sending the materials there. 130 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: There is so much dirty business going on. 131 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Most Americans don't know the difference between Ukraine and Russia, 132 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: or that Ukrainian was part of Russia, or how it 133 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: came about that Russia's puppet that they had in Ukraine 134 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: there was kicked out, or that Zelenski won't hold elections 135 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: and he's actually serving now without being elected to the 136 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: time he's serving at present. Americans don't know this, and 137 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: the media has done the job of the Ukrainian American 138 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: insider coalition. This is dirty, dirty business, very very dirty business. 139 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 2: So with that in mind, I just want you to 140 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: see the kind of things they're going to claim. So 141 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: here's Alexander Vinman back in the news on MSNBC with 142 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: its terrible ratings that are below the Hallmark channel. Here's 143 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: Alexander Vinman claiming, you know, Trump and Musk, they don't 144 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: even realize it, but Putin's controlling them. 145 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: Clearly, Putin has a type he likes narcissists and egomaniacs 146 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 5: that he knows as a case officer he could easily 147 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 5: patter to and manipulate to do his dirty work. 148 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: We are under attack. 149 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,359 Speaker 5: Russia has been using different levers, whether that's corruption networks 150 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: in this case, it's influencers like Donald Trump, like Elon 151 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: Musk to really kind of so discord. 152 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 1: And it's particularly troubling. 153 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: With Elon Musk in this case because Elon Musk has 154 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: access to state secrets, he has top secret security clearance. 155 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 5: It's possible that some of that is seeping through. Putin 156 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 5: has been very effective in playing both Trump and Elon, 157 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 5: and he's been using the richest man in the world 158 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: to do his bidding. In some cases that's encouraging him, 159 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: probably to support Donald Trumps. 160 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: That's not speculation. 161 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: We see how far in Elon is gone and then 162 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: using Twitter as a disinformation platform. So this is not 163 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 5: some sort of far off, distant threat. This is a 164 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 5: it's going to impact our elections. 165 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: It's a national security threat. 166 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: You talked about Putin's type, including Elon Musk and Donald Trump, 167 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 6: SayMore because it also includes Tucker Carlson, who has a 168 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 6: bizarre fetish with daddy spanking a little girl, something he 169 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 6: said in public from a podium this week, and JD Vance, 170 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: who has a bizarre belief in worldview that women should 171 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 6: stay in violent marriages. Talk about why these men just 172 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 6: tap it, maybe coincidentally to also parrot Putin's talking points 173 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 6: when it comes to the war in Ukraine. 174 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: Well, it's not really coincidental. I mean, we're talking about 175 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 5: a very practiced our KGB case officer. He served through 176 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 5: the rank of lieutenant colonel as a case officer, and 177 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: in that capacity, he was trained to suss out the vulnerabilities, 178 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: the weaknesses, the ways to engage his target, his agents, 179 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: and he's using Trump and Elon as his agents. And 180 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: in this case, he's just using their own egos, their 181 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: own vanities. The fact that you know, by engaging with Putin, 182 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 5: they're feeding their egos to manipulate them and message them. 183 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: These guys are not particularly skilled, they're not practitioners in 184 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 5: a national security and statecraft. So his warnings that somehow 185 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 5: this is going to trigger a nuclear war are the 186 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 5: same things that you hear both Trump and Elon and 187 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 5: Tucker Carlson Parrot. So he's just effectively manipulating him and 188 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: using him as usually, Joe. 189 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Don't use that tone to me, not a Joe. 190 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 7: That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone that means you know everything because 191 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 7: you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman. 192 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: That is not a joke, that is a natural fact. 193 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: The Michael Very Show. Let's go back to nineteen ninety four. 194 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: You may have seen this before, but it is the 195 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: Today Show and at the time, Katie Curic was hosting. 196 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: With Bryant Dumble. 197 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: And the issue of email came up and they're trying 198 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: to explain what an email is. Now today this is laughable, 199 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: but in nineteen ninety four this was like cutting edge 200 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: stuff in the ring around it. 201 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: At that's what I said. Case said she thought it 202 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: was about Yeah, but I've never heard around. I've never 203 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: heard of Mark but never said And. 204 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: Then it sounded stupid when I said it violence at. 205 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 8: NBC around about there. 206 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: It is violence at NBC g E com. 207 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean, well, what Allison should know? What you anyway? 208 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 8: Internet is that massive computer network, the one that's becoming 209 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 8: really big. 210 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Now, what do you mean that's big? 211 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 9: Way? 212 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: How does one? What do you write it? Like mail? 213 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 8: No, a lot of people use it and communicate. I 214 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 8: guess they can communicate with NBC writers and producers. Allison, 215 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 8: can you explain what Internet is? 216 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 5: No? 217 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: She can't say anything. In ten seconds or life, Alison 218 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: will be in the studio shortly. 219 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: What does it mean? 220 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: It's a giant computer network made up made up. 221 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: Of started from Oh, I thought your tell us what 222 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 5: this was billboards. 223 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 10: It's not it's it's it's a computer billboard business one, 224 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 10: it's it's several universities and everything all join together. 225 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: And others can access it. 226 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 8: And he really handy during the quake. A lot of people, 227 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 8: that's how they were communicating out to tell family and lovedlins. 228 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 8: They were okay because all the phone lines were down. 229 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 8: I'm you don't need you don't need that. You don't 230 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 8: need a phone line to operating. 231 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 7: Now now. 232 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: It's fascinating to think they had no clue what that was. 233 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: And today that's my primary means of communication. I email 234 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: listeners email me through our website, Michael Berryshow dot com. 235 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: I read everyone over one thousand a day. I read fast. 236 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: I read and delete, read and delete, reading, delete, I 237 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: have to, and some of them I respond. If somebody says, hey, 238 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: who's your show sponsor? 239 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Who does this? Who's your show sponsor? Who does this? 240 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: I get folks in particular markets. 241 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: Who will say, hey, I can't sponsor your national show, 242 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: but i'd like to be your car dealer in Los Angeles, 243 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: or I'd like to be your roofing company in Los Angeles. 244 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: Or wherever, in whatever market. 245 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: And I take that I respond and I copy my 246 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: sales director in that market and we try to work 247 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: it out. It's fascinating to think how fast change is 248 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: happening in my lifetime, because that's thirty years ago that 249 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: that occurred. And in those thirty years, email is you know, 250 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: you call mail that comes through the postal service, snail 251 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: mail email for many people. Now you got all these 252 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: different slack and all these different ways people communicate faster. 253 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: It's interesting. It's very interesting. But I maintain and some 254 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: of you won't agree with me, that in this era 255 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: of vast technology and how it has intruded into our lives, 256 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: the ability to communicate face to face, spoken word, old 257 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: fashion is more important than it's ever been. AI can 258 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: replace all this grammarly can replace. 259 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: People don't need to learn to spell anything anymore. 260 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: They don't need any but your ability to communicate what 261 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: I do all day, every day, it's what salesmen do, 262 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: it's what leaders do. 263 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: These things are because it. 264 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: Has gotten to be rarer and rarer, because as technology 265 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: has become. 266 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: More important, fewer and fewer people are. 267 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: Learning the art and science of direct communication one on one. 268 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: The ability to communicate, to persuade, to tell stories to 269 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: inform I believe and I do this with my kids. 270 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: We storytell at dinner. At the dinner table, how was 271 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: your day? Tell me the story, paint a picture, make 272 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: it interesting. You don't have to be a master communicator 273 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: to give your children practice at that. You know how 274 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: many dads can teach their kid, can get their kid 275 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: better at hitting a baseball when the dad can't properly pitch, 276 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: do underhand pitch. 277 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Set up the set up the tea A lot of coaches. 278 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: Lance Berkman one of the best baseball hitters of all time. 279 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: We'll tell you he is a big believer in hitting 280 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: a baseball off fatigue. People think he's crazy, print that's 281 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 2: how he got his swing back. You can teach your 282 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: kids to communicate simply by encouraging them to communicate. You 283 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: can be a good audience member, even if you yourself 284 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: are not. 285 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: A great community. 286 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: The takeover of America's healthcare system by the Democrats as 287 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: part of Obamacare has been an unmitigated disaster. Disaster Jonathan 288 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Gruber was the architect of Obamacare. He's an mit economist, 289 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: and he has talked openly about relying on Americans dumb 290 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: American voters. He said this to get Obamacare passed. I 291 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: want you to listen to what he says, and let's 292 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: talk about how we end up in a situation where 293 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: Obamacare passed. 294 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Congress. It's just you can't do it politically. You just 295 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: literally cannot do it. 296 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 10: Okay, Transparent financing, and let's have transparent financing. 297 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: Hell's transparent spending. 298 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 10: I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way 299 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 10: to make sure CBO did not score the mandate is taxes. 300 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: If CBO scored the manda's taxes, the bill dies. Okay. 301 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 10: So it was written to do that in terms of 302 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 10: in terms of ristrated subsidies. If you get a law 303 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 10: which said healthy people are going to pay in it 304 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 10: made explicit the healthy old pay and see people get money, 305 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 10: it would not have passed, Okay, just like the people 306 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 10: transparent lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. 307 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: And basically, you. 308 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 10: Know, called the stupidity the American voter or whatever, but 309 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 10: basically that was really really critical to get into thing 310 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 10: to pass. 311 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: And you know it's the second best argument. Look, I 312 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: wish Mark was right. 313 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 10: We could make it all transparent, but I'd rather have 314 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 10: this law than not so it's kind of like his 315 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 10: reporter story. You know, yeah, there's things I wish you 316 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 10: could change, but I'd rather have this. 317 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Law than So. 318 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 11: First of all, you haven't publicly commented on this so far. 319 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: Do you stand by the comments in that video? 320 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 11: The common the video were made at an academic conference. 321 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 11: I was speeding off, speaking off the cuff, and. 322 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 12: Hero John Ferry were more likely SASS came up with 323 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 12: a great susted idea. They said, looks want to do, 324 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 12: is you want to say that for people who send 325 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 12: the top insurance plans, they will all long get a 326 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 12: forty percent tax? 327 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 8: Right? 328 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: What are the insais just tax? 329 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 12: I sure somebody can sell. 330 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: These terrible ascents and pat plans. Well, so well, that 331 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: pretty much the same things. 332 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 12: Why the patterns that you'll see And they're both in ass. 333 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Understanding. 334 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 11: So basically, and so I was speeding off, speaking off 335 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 11: the cuff, and until the. 336 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 10: Second messages here arose John Kerry and John Kerry said no, no, no, 337 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 10: we're going to tax your health insurance. We're going to 338 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 10: tax those evil insurance companies. We're going to impose a taxes. 339 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 11: They say, health insurance it's too expensive. 340 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 10: We're going to tax them, and conveniently, the tax rate 341 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 10: will happen to be the marginal tax rate under the 342 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 10: tax code. 343 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: So basically it's the same thing. 344 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 10: We just tax the insurance companies. They pass it on 345 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 10: higher prices that offsets the tax break we get. It 346 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 10: ends up being the same thing. It's a very clever, 347 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 10: you know, basic exploitation of the of the of the 348 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 10: lack of economic understand the American voter. 349 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 11: Okay, friends, hollis beating off, speaking off the cuff. 350 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: Two things about this. 351 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: Number one, they said, do you stand by this statement 352 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: that the American voters were stupid and you counted on 353 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: them being stupid so that you could dupe them into 354 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: believing that the government should take over healthcare because it 355 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: would better for them. You've said that, do you still 356 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: believe that? And he said, well, first of all, I 357 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: was at an academic conference. Wait a second, So you're 358 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: saying that that's how academics talk about the American people. 359 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: And of course the answer is yes, that's exactly how 360 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: they talk about you. That's how they talk about you 361 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: to each other, and that's how they talk about you 362 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: to your children who you've sent to the university. See, 363 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: and there's the great crime. American workers struggle, scrimp and 364 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: save so that their children can go to the university. 365 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: They can be an educated man or woman. This great 366 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: finishing school. They will go to the academy and when 367 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: they graduate, there will be riches a plenty. Riches I 368 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: didn't have because I was working the soil. Riches I 369 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: didn't have because I went to serve my country and 370 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: came home and worked at the plant, worked in the 371 00:23:53,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: shipbuilding plant, worked at the chemical plant, worked the soil. 372 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: See. 373 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: I didn't have that opportunity of parents say, but my child, 374 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: I will sacrifice. I will do without. I will take 375 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: of my earnings and I will put those aside, and 376 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: for eighteen years from the time my child is born, 377 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: I will save that money so that in four years 378 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: they can squander it at the university because it will 379 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: be worth it, because we're all willing to sacrifice so 380 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: our children. 381 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Will have a better life. 382 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: And I don't know what they do in that university, 383 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: but they make you smart. 384 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: You're smart when you come out of there. 385 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: And little do you know that you're sending them to 386 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: a governmental institution that is a re education camp to 387 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: tell them that their parents are stupid. And trust me, 388 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: that's what they do. The second thing is how did 389 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: he know he could rely on the American people being stupid? 390 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: Because the American people are a very good people, but 391 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: be very naive. They don't believe that professors and politicians 392 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: in the media will lie to them. And that brings 393 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: us to our newest scam. After the government took over 394 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: your healthcare, the next plan was to take over manufacturing 395 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: and your personal consumption habits a global warming which we 396 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: had to change to. 397 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Climate change. 398 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: Climate change is how they will take control of your life, 399 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: your company, your dollars, and they will decide what you 400 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: can do and when you can do it. The latest 401 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: climate change scare from the BBC relies just like Jonathan 402 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: Gruber Obamacare, on you being stupid. Here is a BBC 403 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: report Are you ready for this? Claiming that forests are 404 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: losing their ability to soak up carbon. 405 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: You know the very idea, the very idea. 406 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: That this earth, which is so grand, so vast, so powerful, 407 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: we are but a pimple on its butt. We are 408 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: not controlling this planet. It'll be here long after we're gone. 409 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, here's a story to scare you. 410 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 7: Global efforts to tackle climate change are wildly off track, 411 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 7: says the UN, as new data shows that warming gases 412 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 7: are accumulating faster than at any time in human existence. 413 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 7: Researchers are also worried that forests are losing their ability 414 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 7: to soak up carbon, which could be contributing to record 415 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 7: levels of warming gas in the atmosphere, with more than 416 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 7: a third of tree speech whuse facing extinction, Helen Briggs report. 417 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 13: Trees are vital to help clean the air we breathe, 418 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 13: soup carbon emissions, and provide a home for thousands of 419 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 13: different birds, mammals and insects. 420 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: Yet it's been. 421 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 13: Revealed that more than a third of trees around the 422 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 13: world are in trouble. Experts here at Q worked on 423 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 13: the latest extinction red List, which found deforestation is a 424 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 13: major threat to life on Earth. 425 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 9: Thirty eight percent of the world's trees are threatened with extinction, 426 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 9: more than all the threatened mammals, birds, amphibians and reptiles 427 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 9: added together, So a huge number of species, and these 428 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 9: are found all across the world. In one hundred and 429 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 9: ninety two countries there is a threatened tree species. 430 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's work to do everywhere. 431 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 14: Extinction List and an ever growing tally of living things 432 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 14: facing extinction, with more than sixteen thousand tree species at risk, 433 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 14: like this in Willhelmy pine. And if you take away 434 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 14: the trees, you lose habitat for other living things, from 435 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 14: birds to mammals. 436 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: Elviss have left for kid, Thank you and good night