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Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco.

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Speaker 1: And now your hosts Brian brought Us, Kyle Yeomans, and

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. It is Tuesday, April nineteenth. That means it

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Speaker 1: is time for once again another episode of the Draft Show. Wow,

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Speaker 1: the Big Voice guy already they already made the big

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Speaker 1: voice change. In case you haven't heard Skeleton Crew here today,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dave Hellman. I'm joined only by Brian brought Us.

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Speaker 1: Kyle will be back Thursday. I believe Jeff Kavanaugh will

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Speaker 1: not be finishing out the draft cycle with us. He

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Speaker 1: is pursuing other job opportunities. Is that fair to Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: There's sometimes where you know that things that in this business,

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Speaker 1: things don't always match up, and if you go somewhere

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Speaker 1: It's it's not I mean, I just want to say

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. I do. You know, the one

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Speaker 1: thing that I've learned, Dave, and you've been with me

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into Jeff's professional business. He's

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Speaker 1: when you when you left Dallas Cowboys dot com, people

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence the best two that they've had here in

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Speaker 1: you mightn't need in an extension. You gotta be real

427
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: late before they started telling you you're going to jail, though,

428
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: Like take it, I know from experience, unfortunately, So it's

429
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: so funny that and I'm so glad the listener brought

430
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: that because you think about I was just thinking about

431
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: digs and you're right, the COVID drafts and stuff like

432
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: all blends together. They blends together, and you're thinking, like, man,

433
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: that guy was a second round pick because I remember

434
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: we talked about him as an option at seventeen. That's

435
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: why it's okay, seventeen okay, and the iron And I'm

436
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: not calling anybody out because I felt the same way. Yeah, universally,

437
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: the way everybody felt about Treyvon was like, like him

438
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: not at seventeen, don't do it at seventeen. But if

439
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: you new two years ago that he'd be in all pro,

440
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: that's amazing how you just forget things that happened because

441
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of like, like, but I remember, but

442
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: there's more. They've had more problems at two than they

443
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, that's been. That's been. So Will took

444
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: over in fourteen. DeMarcus Lawrence Randy, who was good but

445
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: barely played relative to how long he should be still

446
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: should still be here if his agent doesn't pull the

447
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 1: rug out. I mean that's fair. But even still, like

448
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: I think by his seventh year in the league, I

449
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: think he played like fifty games or something like that.

450
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: Then you got Jalen Cheeto was was a solid pick,

451
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: not a home run. Uh. I would say the same

452
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: thing about Connor Williams. And then Tristan Hill. Yeah, not

453
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: anything to get super excited about. And then you find

454
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: and then you get Treyvon and we'll see what happened better. Yeah,

455
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: hit and miss. Anyway, you know what time it is,

456
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Speaker 1: it's the second segment. That's when we answer y'all's questions

457
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Speaker 1: otherwise known as Twitter on the t Since we were

458
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: doing this in the first segment, I'll just keep it

459
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: going with a question from Brian, Brian with an eye

460
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: not a why he wants to know about trading up

461
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: to the jets tenth overall pick and going back to

462
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: your point, maybe the trade market's a little less robust.

463
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: Do you think you would have to do a one

464
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: next year's one to do that? And also who would

465
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: you do it for? See we have Steven Jones on

466
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: today on one oh five three the Fan. Matter of fact,

467
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: he's being interviewed I think at eleven o'clock here so

468
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know in time for us to get off

469
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah. So, and I asked, asked one of

470
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: the questions. I sit and ask one of the guys

471
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: if they would ask him the question about has he

472
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: starting to hear what Bobby Belt, Peter King and others

473
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: are about about trading up? Is the price to go up?

474
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: Or is it just are there a bunch of those

475
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: teams that are starting to call and say, hey, listen,

476
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: we'll be willing to back out. Maybe you haven't talked parameters,

477
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: but I just keep an eye. I don't you know

478
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Speaker 1: if Steven would tell me in this interview today that hey, yeah,

479
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: this this price of going up might not be as

480
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: steep as everybody thinks. And I kind of feel like

481
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: that Bobby and both Peter are talking to enough people

482
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: around the league that they're getting you know, I've got

483
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: my what might call my gang of seven that I

484
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: haven't been able to visit with yet about that. So

485
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: you know, maybe on Thursday we'll have a little bit

486
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: better understanding. But if the Jets, okay, if you're going

487
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: for ten, what are we going to do there? What's

488
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: our plan? Is our plant Stingley? Is our plan? Cross

489
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: is our plan the linebacker Voyd. I mean, that's that's

490
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: kind of where you know, I'm kind of thinking if

491
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner hangs around, I'm interested. Yeah, but I if

492
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, I really I want to do it

493
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: for a tackle and you got it. Actually, I'll fold

494
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: this in just real quick because Bernie. Bernie wants to

495
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: know why we don't talk more about Ikey Aquano, and

496
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I think the and he's talking about in a trade,

497
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: I think the answer is just because I expect him

498
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: to be a top five pick. Yeah, I kind of

499
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: feel like on a lot of people boards he might

500
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: be the number one guy I know when I know

501
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: doing talk with it again, the giant stuff they were

502
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: looking at. The real right tackle to me is the

503
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: kid from Alabama. That's Neil. That's the one that's the

504
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: real guy. Aquanu. I think you play left or right.

505
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: I think cross is probably a better left than a right.

506
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: But I mean I love him for the possibility of

507
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: having him. I think you could train him both. But

508
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: to me, Aquanu is like there's there's going to be

509
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that when this is all said

510
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: and done, he is going to be their their top tackle.

511
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: On the board, and that's probably why you don't talk

512
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: to him, because there's so many teams really ahead of

513
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: you that could use those offensive tackles. I think the

514
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: Jags are overthinking it if they, like, I don't. Aidan

515
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Trevan Walker are both great players, Cavon Thibodeau

516
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: as well, But I think I think there's so much

517
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: uncertainty with those guys, and I'm not confident any like

518
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't see, I don't I don't get the impression

519
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: or at least I'm not confident that those guys are

520
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna be Miles Garris. See that's the thing. And when

521
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: you think about that, like give me I yeah, I

522
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: know that they do. I know they'd signed Cam Robinson

523
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: said it's franchise tag. I don't care protect Trevor Lawrence.

524
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: See that's to me. When you're when you know, when

525
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: you're Trent Baukie, who the general manager in Jacksonville, you're

526
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: now making moves with like one foot in the parking lot.

527
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: You know you're you're not gonna get another you know

528
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: you're you're as Brian Broadest favorite idiot. You know what.

529
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Hutchinson. I really am. It's a

530
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: good player. I think he's a good player too, I

531
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: really do. And you know what, he's probably the one

532
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: guy at the first overall pick you want the least

533
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: amount of holes in you know, you don't want a

534
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: guy that has a bunch of holes in him that

535
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: you're like, oh well, I can't when that is. The

536
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: line on Hutchinson is that he's got a really high floor, right, yeah,

537
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: but what do you think his ceiling is? Like? Do

538
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: you see him as a perennial all? See? I mean,

539
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: I was watching guys like It's funny because when I

540
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: watch guys like Sailor and that, you know, the Georgia

541
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: tack cool and stuff, and I'm trying to get a gauge.

542
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm watching these guys playing and that guys are having

543
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: some success and I'm talking about a third round tackle

544
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: to move to guard. Maybe I should have Sailor in

545
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: the second round. If you if you're blocking Hutchinson and

546
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: guys like that Walker getting blocked them, I mean, maybe

547
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you. To me, taking the offensive tackle there

548
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: makes the most sense because I kind of feel like

549
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 1: that when you draft a tackle, they play ten twelve,

550
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: thirteen years. I just think about the couch a cornerstone player.

551
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: They put a sticker on your locker plate every time

552
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: you go to a Pro Bowl. Tyron Smith's has just

553
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: covered in them, like you can't even see the wood anymore. Yeah,

554
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: and I just feel more confident that Aquanu is going

555
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: to have like ten Pro Bowl stickers than those than

556
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: those Threshers. Sure. Going back to the Jets thing, also,

557
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: I think it's worth noting when you talk about these teams,

558
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: the Jets have a ton of big picks. Yeah, they

559
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: picked twice in the top ten. They also picked twice

560
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: in the thirty they got They got Seattle's pick too,

561
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: That's what's helping him, right. Seattle's pick is at ten

562
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: and thirty five is the other pick at thirty five

563
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: and thirty eight, thirty eight again at sixty nine. There

564
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: you go, which is really nice for them. Yeah, So

565
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: I just wonder if they care about adding ammunition. No,

566
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: they care about Again, there's another general manager that's got

567
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: one foot in the parking lot. You know, he's hiring coaches.

568
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: He's he's he's that Jets. Yeah didn't Joe Douglas, did you?

569
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: Just he's like done a decent job. So far. Well,

570
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: the thing about it is depends on what. Yeah, Woody Johnson.

571
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson, the owner was over in Europe being an

572
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: ambassador right for like for a little time, and now

573
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: he's back in the building. I think Joe Douglas is

574
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of I think the jury's really kind of out

575
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: on him right now. This. I mean, there's you know,

576
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: if this, if this, if the Wilson pick doesn't work

577
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: at quarterback, sure, you know, if you all of a

578
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: sudden he starts where he didn't like he could play

579
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: next year, you know, all of a sudden that now

580
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: you're like, well, that dude in Arizona is the only

581
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: person in the world who can overcome messing up a

582
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback pick and keep your sure job. Sure,

583
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: and that's the quickest way. Well, the guy in Chicago

584
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: got fired. He got to do it twice. He did

585
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: chev has one. When speaking of the Jags, I mean

586
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people. So I didn't answer the Jets

587
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: question because I don't know what the price of poker is. Well,

588
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought you gave some scenarios. I think

589
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: I think I'd like to know. I'd like to know

590
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Steven Jones, though I'd like to know if he thinks,

591
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: because people that I trust in respect are talking about

592
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: the price of pokers not that much. If that's the case,

593
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, and you want to make a run at

594
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: the Jets, go for it. But if you but if

595
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: it turns into where we think it normally is to

596
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: go up to get into that spot, then I don't

597
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: think I'm necessarily interested in doing that. CHEV had one

598
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: about a lot of people have asked about our old

599
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: friend Calevan Jason. Yeah, not off to a robust start.

600
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I talked to people in Jacksonville if you were to

601
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: if you were willing to part part, if they were,

602
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: they're willing to listen. I was told, I think you

603
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: could get him for one of those fifths, not expect

604
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's been asked

605
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys. But I specifically asked two people in

606
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville organization about him, and both of them said,

607
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: we will listen to any offers that teams make. Well,

608
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: let's all right. He's played in thirty one of thirty

609
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: two possible games. He's made eleven starts, fifty career tackles,

610
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: six tackles for lost, two sacks, Yeah. My problem is,

611
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to that year, we caught

612
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot of flak about Calavon because he went to LSU,

613
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: right it usually do with these players. In reality, we

614
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: were just hunting the Cowboys needs and if you go back,

615
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: we had plenty of concerns. And again I haven't watched

616
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: him play a whole lot, but it just looking at

617
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: his stat line, it looks like he's living up to

618
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: those concerns, which is is he kind of a one

619
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: trick pony? Can he stay on the field for three downs?

620
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Is he big enough and run support? The Cowboys stack

621
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: did them a favor, the fact that they stacked their

622
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: board in the way and then but CD appearing the

623
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: way he was, I think that worked doubt fine with

624
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: Fowler and Basham and Armstrong and obviously Mica like would

625
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: you even would you even want him? I mean that

626
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: sounds mean, but yeah, well, I mean I think that

627
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: maybe to me, I would want him because I trust

628
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. That's a wonderful point, you know. That's why

629
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: I have hope for Fowler, because we're still thinking about

630
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: the coaching staff as like an asset that can make

631
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: this time this time last year, we were not given

632
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: Curse a chance in hell. And now it's like, well,

633
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't draft a safety, would you. We got Curse,

634
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: we got Hooker. Come on, we ain't drafted the safety

635
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: where this time last year, we're like, my god, they

636
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: need a safety. Got a draft a safety. But I mean,

637
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: my hope is that Fowler. My hope that Fowler is

638
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: he finds something again with dan Quinn. I'm not married

639
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: to Fowler. I'm hopeful that I give I give dan

640
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Quinn all the credit for making players better than they are.

641
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn deserves the benefit of the doubt he does.

642
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: And Dante Fowler was a top five pick, Like, I'm

643
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: absolutely uptimistic. Now he might have been wrong about this

644
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: corner because he had his head his fingerprints on that

645
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: one too. Yeah, I we'll see what happens there. I

646
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: know we've answered this question already, but it's an interesting one,

647
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: and people keep bringing up we are a show of

648
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: the people. Steve. Steve wants a CD scenario. Steve wants

649
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: to know the guy that you would laugh at the

650
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: mock draft that sent you to send him to Dallas.

651
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: But if he was there, you have to draft him. Well,

652
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: that's a really good question, because I think it would

653
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Speaker 1: be the draft where you got I think the mock

654
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: draft where you got Stingley would be the one that

655
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: kind of makes me. He just he just keeps coming

656
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: up as he's the best player that seems to have

657
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: the most reason why he would fall. You know, I

658
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: think I think I would I would laugh at you

659
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: if I think said I think that I think Wilson

660
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: from Ohio State to watch ses Garrett Wilson would be

661
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: another one that I would kind of laugh at you

662
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: that maybe that scenario. Um, it's so funny because when

663
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: we first started this journey, Walker from Georgia was a

664
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Speaker 1: guy that we were just I mean, it was just

665
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: every every mock draft I ever saw was Walker, Walker, Walker,

666
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: Walker Walker. Now you don't even see that anymore. If

667
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: somebody puts Walker there, you kind of like, yeah, okay,

668
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean when we first were doing this, yeah, absolutely,

669
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: you know. And then there's the you know, there's the

670
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: highlights right there with with Walker as you see a

671
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: really good football player. I have two thoughts, and these

672
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: The first one, he ain't fallen to twenty four. That is,

673
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: it's simply impossible. But going back to our previous conversation.

674
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: How far about Hamilton, Well, you can mention him. I

675
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: actually wasn't. How far would Cavan Thibadeau have to fall

676
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: before you started to get interested? I'll tell you what

677
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's pure It purely seems to be

678
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: a non football thing that is pushing him down. You

679
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: you you brought something up. If I went, if I

680
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: got to six, I would put him in the mix.

681
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if he gets I wouldn't hate it, would

682
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: put him Gardner and Cross all in the mix at six,

683
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate it. Yeah, And he's my number one

684
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: player on my board, of my of the guys I've done,

685
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: he's the number one guy. See, I kind of I

686
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: take him back a little bit of what I said, because,

687
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: like I do, if one of those edges becomes a stud,

688
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: I would put my money on Thibodeau. He just has

689
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: the most freakish ability of it. Does the thing about

690
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: it is. And we're going to learn this with all

691
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: these players that have this in nil stuff. More of

692
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: these players are going to become very brand conscious. Yeah,

693
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's like, well does he

694
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: look a football and does he care about the brand?

695
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Does he care about every every year because these players,

696
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: these top players are going to make millions of dollars.

697
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: And so now it's about brand and you know, are

698
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: we're going to keep questioning and we, like I say,

699
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: you're from now, We're going to have a conversation where

700
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like not even like does he care

701
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: about football? It's like he cares about his brand and

702
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: he cares about playing football. You have to talk about

703
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: both of them. I don't have a problem with that,

704
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: and the people that run this team definitely shouldn't have

705
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: a problem with that. The other one I wanted to

706
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: bring up is like, maybe like a Malik willis obviously

707
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: not that you're going to draft a quarterback, but if

708
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: the right guy falls to you at twenty four, maybe

709
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: that makes your life interesting in the sense of somebody

710
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: trying to come get him. Yeah, I think so too.

711
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're interested in going backwards there, that

712
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: would be something you absolutely have to think about. I

713
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: think that, I think the quarterback situation Caroline at six

714
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: and then and I'm probably gonna forget somebody, but I'm thinking,

715
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that Pittsburgh has done so much due diligence

716
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: on a quarterback at twenty likely there's gonna be one

717
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: gone right in front of you there from four picks.

718
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: All right. I love this question from Andy. I love

719
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: forward thinking, outside the box questions. He says, based on

720
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: the parameters and the thresholds that we know about, like

721
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys like in players, are there any guys

722
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: that stand out to you that we should be talking

723
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: more about. And two, I'll just throw these two out

724
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: there if you tell if you think I'm crazy, tell

725
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: me Arnold Avid Katie, the Penn State edge rusher, mainly

726
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: just because he's like the second longest pass rusher in

727
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: the class, sure behind Thibadeau. And then another guy that

728
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: I've heard the Cowboys like is Michael Clemens out of

729
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: A and M. He's not a big time prospect, but

730
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like maybe he fits their their mold

731
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, I kind of feel like it

732
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: maybe that we I'm always leary to talk about these

733
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: safeties because it's something that they really don't cut it

734
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: all that much. Sure, but man, you have to give

735
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: those guys their due. I think that we're not I don't.

736
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: I think we're not talking about potentially McDuffie, the Washington Corner. Yeah,

737
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a guy. He doesn't have the ideal

738
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: length and all that stuff like that, But man, that

739
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: is I mean we're only talking. I mean, we say

740
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: Gardner Stanley, but McDuffie at twenty four, I mean, you

741
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: know that's a guy. I mean, if I was picking

742
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, wow, okay, well let's where do you

743
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: where do you have him in relation to say some

744
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: of the some of the other guys on your board,

745
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, do you do you have anybody?

746
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I'm looking at I'm looking at

747
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: mcduffey right now. He's my fifteenth best player on my board.

748
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: But behind him, I have like Dax Hill, the safety

749
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: from Michigan, Karloftus from Purdue, the Kobe Dean, Chris o'lave.

750
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: You know, those are the guys that I have behind him,

751
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm kind of like, you know that

752
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm in that mode right now where there's some pretty

753
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: good players behind him. But I don't think we're talking

754
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: about him for really at twenty four McDuffie. Yeah, with

755
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: him being the fifteenth best player on my board and

756
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: you got him at twenty four, I think you got

757
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: a steal right there. I really do. That's an interesting

758
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: point because the reason I don't think him out McDuffie

759
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: is the length. I mean, you'll see the type of

760
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: DBS Quinn was trying to get last year. He just

761
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: doesn't fit that, and so it's easy to just kind

762
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: of write him off. But maybe that's a case where

763
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: the tape is so good. Yeah, if he's the best

764
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: guy there, it's like we can live with that. And yeah,

765
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: dan Quinn obviously wasn't here, but they did that with

766
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. Like Jordan Lewis does not match what they

767
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: look for right at all? Right, they just took the

768
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: best player on their boards. What they did real quick, quickly, Brian. Yeah,

769
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: brevity is the soul of wit. Questions from Reid and Mike.

770
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: Reid wants to know about Danny Gray, the SMU receiver,

771
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: and Mike wants to know about Donovan West the Arizona

772
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: State Good Center. Okay, I'm not as high on West,

773
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: but I will say this about I will say this

774
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: about you said Gray, right, Danny Gray I did. That's

775
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: big time explosive the summer again, reading off my notes here,

776
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: you know he'll make place all over the field, the screens,

777
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: the drags, the ver balls. He's super productive when it

778
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: comes to finishing plays, and I think he brings down

779
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: the ball and clutch situations. I think you you know

780
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: when you watch him play, I mean especially in off coverage.

781
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he can close the cushion faster than those

782
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: guys can even react. So I mean the tracking skills

783
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: and all that. We're watching the highlights right now and

784
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: as you could see that, you know, tracking the ball,

785
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: getting the feet down. Those are the kinds of things

786
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there are there are just multiple ways of

787
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: getting him the football, and there's multiple ways of him

788
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: making some super plays for you now west the center,

789
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some other guys that I'm

790
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: at center wise that I'm kind of a little bit

791
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: more in love with. I think he was a little

792
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: banged up during the season, so he missed several games.

793
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: He's a straight legged blocker for me, but he kind

794
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: of holds his man in place, you know. I like

795
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: his upper body power the stream. You don't see him

796
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: getting rocked back or anything, but he plays a little

797
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: up right, and you know that seems to you know,

798
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: to bother him some but I kind of like the athlete,

799
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: the foot athlete, and something like that. Size helps him.

800
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's a three two hundred ninety six pound guy,

801
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: but you know, he usually doesn't appear to be playing

802
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: very fast. He's not a lazy kid, but there's not

803
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: a really a lot of sense of urgency to his game,

804
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: and so I kind of wonder about that. But I

805
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: think his ability to move as his best trait for sure.

806
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Day three, Yeah, I got him in the Let me

807
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: make sure I don't want to ever get these things

808
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: wrong because I'm looking at my board. I should not.

809
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, Dane just fires these things off the top

810
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: of his head. And Dane's got a photographic member he's

811
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: got he's got a photograph. I got him in the

812
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: fourth round today. And Gray sorry, and Gray is in

813
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the fourth round as well. There's gonna be like, there's

814
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy's worth getting really excited about there

815
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: at the top of day three. Yeah, it always is

816
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: that that round is the round is a lot what

817
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: we called the you know how I mean, Jabril Cox

818
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: was sitting there, yeah, Saturday last year, so exactly, we'll

819
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,080
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Speaker 1: slash draft and you and I'll be stuck in this shroom.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I would love to and I love

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Speaker 1: every minute of it. I would love to come out

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00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: and say hi to anybody that that comes up here

875
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: for the draft. But we will be uh, say hello,

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Speaker 1: what you're walking in? Yeah? Say hello the parking lot

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Speaker 1: Come say hi, uh it really is my It's like

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00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: my favorite weekend of the year. To be honest with you. Yeah,

880
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: like I used to think that you were an insane person.

881
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Brian always used to say, you know, if we didn't

882
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: have to play the games, this job would be pretty great. Yeah.

883
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: And the more I do it, the more I would

884
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: think the offseason is just the best. Get to talk

885
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Speaker 1: about draft, get to go hang out in Indianapolis, and

886
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: even saying elmos, you don't have like the stakes of

887
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: just knowing that everyone's going to be miserable if they

888
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: lose the game, or riding too high if they win

889
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, if you could, if you could just say, okay,

890
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick our team and do free agency and

891
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: then put it on paper and determine who's the best team,

892
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I would take that as a mythical. You know, the

893
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: hand me the trophy. Yeah, we were the best. See

894
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: the Rams would in that case would have well, the

895
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: Rams adding all their players would have been probably something

896
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: that we would have been really really you know high on. Yeah,

897
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: they could have had the trophy. Last, they could have

898
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: had the trap. Don't Don't get me wrong, the Cowboys

899
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Speaker 1: are not going to win a trophy for the way

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00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: that they're doing an offseason right now. But the but

901
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: the drafting part of it, they've gotten down pretty good

902
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: that they have. Yeah, which, hey, I mentioned Jabril Cox.

903
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: It's easy to forget like you. I think I forgot that.

904
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: Diggs was right, Yeah, I think your your interest naturally,

905
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: it's only natural to kind of fall off as you

906
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: go down the draft. Yeah, but it's so it's easy

907
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: to forget, like the guys that we've gotten really excited about,

908
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: like the Jabril Coxes of the Xavier Woods. That's the

909
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: funny thing about it. And when I was when I

910
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Speaker 1: was working in the draft room last time was two

911
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Speaker 1: thousand and five, and I never wanted to leave the

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Speaker 1: room because I always felt like I was going to

913
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Speaker 1: miss something, you know, I felt like I was going

914
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Speaker 1: to miss a trade. I was, and people in the

915
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: draft room kind of come and go, you know, they

916
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: just kind of like mosey yea with a sandwich. They

917
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: munch on it for a few minute, then they leave.

918
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Speaker 1: And but I always, I just never ever ever wanted

919
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Speaker 1: to leave that room, not until it was over. I

920
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: mean until they said, okay, mister irrelevant. Here it is.

921
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave that room and because there's

922
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: so much the twist and turns, and I wanted to

923
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Speaker 1: experience everything about it. You know that, Because that is

924
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Speaker 1: I mean your promiti, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do

925
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Speaker 1: a segment today before I know, we gotta get some

926
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Speaker 1: questions and stuff like that. So I'm gonna do a

927
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Speaker 1: segment today on one oh five three the Fan. I

928
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Speaker 1: got my draft notes from the Tom Brady Draft in

929
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Speaker 1: two thousand outstanding, and you know, just the kind of

930
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Speaker 1: I was downsizing my life a little bit and I

931
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Speaker 1: was pulling stuff, moving it around, and I went and

932
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Speaker 1: I found my Tom Brady draft notes and stuff like that.

933
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Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna do a segment about that today.

934
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: And just all the quarterbacks we talked about, I think,

935
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: forget it's not about like, it's not about getting taken

936
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Speaker 1: advantage of in the trademarket or any of the teams

937
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: don't want you to know all their grades on this

938
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Speaker 1: stiff Yeah, because when you have to grade every single

939
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Speaker 1: player in the draft, yeah, you're gonna look stupid. At

940
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Speaker 1: least a few times. You will stoop are absolutely going through. Okay,

941
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: my dream in life, I'm willing this into existence. We're

942
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: gonna talk about somebody the Cowboys draft on day three

943
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: and one of these tell me more segments. Okay, let's

944
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: just get into it. I think we can go a

945
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: little faster than usual because it's just you and me. Sure,

946
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Speaker 1: Snoop Connor. Snoop Connor running back out of all miss. Yeah.

947
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about Snoop Connor, I think is

948
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: he's really kind of a straight ahead power runner. He

949
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have much wiggle or the ability to make the

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00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: first guy miss. You know, he's the type that just

951
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: kind of gets you what you can. I mean, he's

952
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: not going to create much in the running game. He's steady,

953
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Speaker 1: he's productive. He's good in the red zone due to

954
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: his power. I mean you could see him. He's a hoss. Yeah,

955
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: he's a tough guy. When it comes at five ten,

956
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: two twenty two pounds, you can see right there, just

957
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: a little slight cut and then boom, just run through

958
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: the tackler like that. But that that time you see

959
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: right there is accurate. I mean that's a four or

960
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: five nine guy right there. And again, very steady, very much.

961
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: Keep the pads down and run through people. You know, uh,

962
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's really kind of a backup guy

963
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: at at at an old miss, and I think that's

964
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Speaker 1: what he's going to be at at in the in

965
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Kind of a backup guy that's a home

966
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Speaker 1: run not a home runner, but a really really good player.

967
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: Does he fit your idea of what this team needs

968
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: behind Zeke? And tell yeah, it's funny because I didn't

969
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: see him do much pass blocking, but he caught a

970
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: swing pass against Alabama, like when it was behind him

971
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: and is able to adjust. So at least one of

972
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the ideas that you see about him is he can

973
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: catch the football, you know, and made a difficult catch

974
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: right there. You know, you could see, you know in

975
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: that game that that whole open up nice he was

976
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: able to get through it, and you know, that's what

977
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: he can do. He can finish. But I especially like

978
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: him in these, like these situations right on the goal

979
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: line where he could just kind of power through guys.

980
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: Where do you have him? I have him? He always

981
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: ask me these questions, and I have to go back

982
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: to my either board and see where I have Stoop.

983
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: I have Stoop from the fifth I have him behind Haskins,

984
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: who we did last week from Michigan last week. Yeah,

985
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: I feel that it just this class with the running backs.

986
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: It kind of seems like there's there's a short list

987
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: of guys that you would take on day two. Yeah,

988
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: and then there's about fifteen guys. It's like, ah, somewhere

989
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: in the fourth of the fifth, I'll tell you what. Yeah,

990
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: I really the guy I really like if you want

991
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: to talk about a running back is James Cook from Georgia.

992
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: That's the guy Dalvin's brother. Yeah, that's the guy. I mean,

993
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: I think he's got some all around traits to his game.

994
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: If you have a chance to watch Georgia number four,

995
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: James Cook, you watched the Tennessee game. You look at

996
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: Beamer pulling up some stats. I mean, look at him.

997
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: We didn't even tell Chris we were going to talk about, Yeah,

998
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: this is this is the kind of stuff. This is

999
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get coverage was because Beams on this

1000
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Speaker 1: all the time. But yeah, you know this is you know,

1001
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: the handing the ball. Look at this right here. Though

1002
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna just take it, He's gonna press

1003
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Speaker 1: and make a little slight cut Boom Secondary score in

1004
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina. He does that a lot. I mean the

1005
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: ball kind of starts sideways and then all of a sudden,

1006
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: he's going forward through that hole. It's not a coincidence

1007
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: that I wanted to take a look at a couple

1008
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks today just in case Tarik Castro Fields out

1009
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: of Penn State tell me more. Yeah. I think with

1010
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Castro Fields, this is this is a guy that you

1011
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: know when Penn State has got some of these guys

1012
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: where you're you're kind of like, man, is this guy

1013
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: good enough? I mean he flashes, he can line up

1014
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: at either cornerback spot, and I think he's got excellent

1015
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: time speed. I mean you look at that that four

1016
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: three eight. There's times when you see him really use

1017
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: that and he could drive on the ball when he

1018
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: really sees it. He's had seasons where he's had more

1019
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: pass breakups than he did in twenty twenty one, So

1020
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: that shows me he can be around the ball. There's

1021
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: some bounce to his game when you watch him move.

1022
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean he can come forward. He does a nice

1023
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: job of avoiding blocks when he has a chance to

1024
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: make the play. He's got the body, control, the foot,

1025
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: quickness to pedal, he can collect, he can go. There's

1026
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: some makeup speed. I mean yeah, when they when you

1027
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: try and run past this guy, he is going to

1028
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: find a way to run you down, just like he

1029
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: did that poor holder who dropped a snap in that game.

1030
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: So willing, physical downhill player. As far as the support goes,

1031
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he consistently trust his eyes all

1032
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: the time and what he sees. But I'll tell you

1033
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: what though, the ball skills and stuff like that I

1034
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: think are pretty good. Dan Quinn was in state college

1035
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: this spring one with alt castro Field. Damn near thirty

1036
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: one in arms too right short of that, so go

1037
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: works for me. Guy that was at the Star at

1038
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: some point in the last month talking about later round

1039
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: center prospects. How about Dawson Deaton, the center out of

1040
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Well, I'll tell you what, man. You know,

1041
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: when you gave me this guy to watch, I was

1042
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, under my breath, I'm like,

1043
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: come on, Dave. And then I watched. Then I watched

1044
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: him play, and I was right, well, you know, I

1045
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: haven't watched him now. He's six six, he's three oh six.

1046
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: He's a tall, thin guy. On tape there. Doesn't have

1047
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: much former bulk to his game, but he's super athletic

1048
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: and the way he moves around, he's he's an excellent

1049
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: position blocker. He like he manages to keep his body

1050
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: in the way, keeps himself between the ball and the defender,

1051
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: and he's kind a way of a knack for tying

1052
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: up defenders. And you know, you could watch him in

1053
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma game, you know with their inside people that

1054
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: that we that we kind of like there and he

1055
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: gets stalemates and you know, I mean he's gonna do

1056
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: a good job as a pass protector. I didn't see

1057
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: him get driven back. I mean for a kind of

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00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: a guy that lacks a little bulk, but those numbers

1059
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: are legit right there. I mean, he is a three

1060
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: hundred and nine pound guy that in that time you

1061
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: could tell of the athletic ability to kind of move

1062
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: around the way he does. I meant he was here,

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00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: I passed by him a few weeks ago. How do

1064
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: you look thin He is a cender block of a man. Yeah,

1065
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: he is a big boy. Yeah, you mentioned the Oklahoma game. Yeah,

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: how do you do against Winfrey? I think he did

1067
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: a pretty good job That's what I'm saying, Like he's

1068
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: reaching those wide techniques. I think he's better when he

1069
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: didn't have a guy directly on his nose because he

1070
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of gets he gets it's not compressed, but he

1071
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: gets that stalemate and then he's able to work his

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00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: feet to where it's like, Okay, I know the ball's

1073
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: coming off my right cheek, so I gotta turn in

1074
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: order to protect that guy from crossing my face right cheek. Yeah,

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, but I just love that phrasing

1076
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. Look, I'll just I just I don't

1077
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: pick these names completely arbitrarily. We'll just throw that out there,

1078
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. How about Jalen Watson, the corner

1079
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: out of Washington State. Yeah, this is this is an

1080
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: interesting cat because to me, I don't know, I really

1081
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know what the thing. I think this guy is

1082
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: like super competitive and I think he plays with a

1083
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder, so I kind of like that

1084
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: about him. He played both corner spots for the Cougars there,

1085
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: and he's a long, rangy guy. In six two one

1086
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: ninety seven. The majority of his snaps say play is

1087
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 1: an off coverage and you'll see him like back pedal

1088
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: then bail, you know that Susan snap bail, and that's

1089
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: that's that kind of that zone. But he will adjust

1090
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: from there. He's got some strength for the position and

1091
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: he uses that physicality like when he gets up. You

1092
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: watch the Senior Bowl cut ups and stuff like that

1093
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: of this kid when he's playing more press. He's up

1094
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: on his guy and he's long enough and he's able

1095
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: to kind of turn and stay with and get in

1096
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: position to maintain that that integrity of the coverage right there.

1097
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, man, I mean, he is

1098
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: a he does a great job of finding the football.

1099
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: He'll he'll throw himself in there. As far as the

1100
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: run support stuff like that. I will say this though, Man,

1101
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: he's got some wild, crazy technique tackling. I mean he

1102
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: really really does. And so you might you might make

1103
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: the play, and you might not make the play, but

1104
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: he will come flying forward and try and make the

1105
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: play again every bit of six two and one ninety

1106
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: seven pounds. He wears number zero. By the way, at

1107
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: Washington States. He can watch him play. You're trying to think, okay,

1108
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: is that a misprint? You know, you're thinking you have

1109
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: to look it up. But no, it's a new age.

1110
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: He's actually wearing number zero. That sounds vaguely familiar to

1111
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: the scouting report we got on Nishan. Right. Yeah, it's

1112
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: just like I mean, it's kind of all over the

1113
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: wild ass. He'll put his head, he'll put his head

1114
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: in there. He's not afraid. Yeah, all right, Senior Bowl guy.

1115
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: I remember I remember this guy making some plays in mobile,

1116
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: but I don't think we've talked about him a whole lot.

1117
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: Romeo Doubs the wide receiver out of Nevada. Yeah, and

1118
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: this is a guy and this was one of those

1119
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: and you gave me this responsibility. This is one in

1120
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: the morning watching this kid play is with this dedication. Yeah,

1121
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: but I was. I was working on a lot of things.

1122
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: I say, oh, I forgot him last night or two nights, yes,

1123
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: tonight last night. I was watching him till about one.

1124
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: I went to bed a solid two hours before you.

1125
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how to he looks the part of tape.

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's six two, he's two hundred and

1127
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: one pounds. That all that stuff is legit about him.

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: I mean his height and length combinations are outstanding. As

1129
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: you can see he was a quarterback when he came

1130
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: in and then they moved him to wide receiver and

1131
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: he's had some games where he's absolutely just lit it up.

1132
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: And this quarterback there is a Strong is his name,

1133
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: and Carson Strong. So yeah, when you watch Strong, you're like, well,

1134
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: who's he throwing through this number seven? And as you

1135
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: can see, the ball's going down the field, the ball's

1136
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: coming underneath on the screens and stuff like that. There

1137
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: were times where there were Strong just fired it into

1138
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: a spot in traffic and somehow this guy came down

1139
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: with the football. So you know this guy any by

1140
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: the way, this guy's also and I don't know if

1141
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: Beamer might have picked it up, but this guy is

1142
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: a punt returner. Oh here we go. Look at Beam.

1143
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Look at Beam being just a stud here right now. Okay,

1144
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: here you go that that's what I'm saying. Punt this

1145
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: guy averaged. This guy average like fourteen yards a punt

1146
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: return and which is six in the country for that.

1147
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: So you can see ball going down the field, going

1148
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: up getting it. Punt returner kind the like of a guy.

1149
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of a lot of good traits

1150
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: to his game. You sound intrigued. I am kind of

1151
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: a fifth round type of guy. Maybe a little bit

1152
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: higher than that, but you know, we'll see with with

1153
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: legitimately with what somebody thinks about. But the fact that

1154
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: he could do a couple of different things I think

1155
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: says a lot about his about his game and as

1156
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: about as potential he is. I think he's dealing with

1157
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: a knee issue that limited him there in the pre

1158
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: draft process, but he was he wasn't mobile. Yeah, I

1159
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: don't so I don't know if it happened there, but uh,

1160
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: something to watch, which for those of you, it's so

1161
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: funny because like I listened to podcasts. I don't know

1162
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: about you. I listened in the car. But if you're

1163
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: listening and you're eithery're missing to missing me and Ryan

1164
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: freaking out about the highlight packages, you can find that

1165
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel, on our on the on the

1166
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com app. Um, I mean, Chris Beam

1167
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: does a fantastic job of footing highlight packages with all

1168
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: these guys. So if you need a visual component and

1169
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: you're listening in your car or while you're walking your

1170
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: dog or whatever, you can find that on YouTube or

1171
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: the app. Brian this was fun. Man, it was We're

1172
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: getting closet week away on Thursday, week away on Thursday.

1173
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: What you what you've got right now is like it says,

1174
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: we finished the thing up. You know. The scouts they're

1175
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: trying to they're trying to put together that board. They're

1176
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: trying to put together the stack. The Cowboys we talked

1177
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: about are a little bit different than the fact that

1178
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: they get all their medical inn they get all the

1179
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: workouts in, they get all the pro days in, everything

1180
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: like that is taken care of. So now they have

1181
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: the way of just kind of putting their board together

1182
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: and working around Jerry and Stephen schedule. So probably you

1183
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: might start hearing some things about, hey, they like Green

1184
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: better than Johnson and all that. You got to figure

1185
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: out the smoke, you know, you gotta figure out that smoke, right.

1186
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: I just sort of I just sort of listen to

1187
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: everything and try not to jump to conclusion. Just know

1188
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: that the players were talking about are the same players

1189
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: they're talking about. True that m Kyle will be back Thursday. Yep,

1190
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a mock draft next week. Oh kind

1191
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: of walk y'all through what Thursday or the following week.

1192
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like I'm thinking Tuesday, like draft. We always

1193
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of traditionally did that. Yeah, so we'll have plenty

1194
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Speaker 1: more content coming y'all's way. We appreciate it. Thank you

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