WEBVTT - Lil Durk Follows The Fools Path

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<v Speaker 1>Gangs, the chronic goals. It's not your average show. You're

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<v Speaker 2>star rating. The comment, man, you know what, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk about I was thinking about some stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, man, it seemed like it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that just love to get praised, like just

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<v Speaker 2>for the wrong stuff though. Mmm, like you got casted

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<v Speaker 2>and go to jail. Man, it's like they almost come

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<v Speaker 2>home or want to be praised, you know, from going

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<v Speaker 2>to prison right right, you got cast that might have

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<v Speaker 2>been a long stretch and they come out and they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of glorified almost like you know what, Well, actually

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't never to cares to do the long stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always the dudes to go in to jail for

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<v Speaker 1>a year or two.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, ship should like that always been uh, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's been like to some dude, some niggas, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>right of passage.

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<v Speaker 1>You get me.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got there, understand who. You gotta understand who who

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<v Speaker 3>who it is. And like I said today, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of shit is a you know, a lot of shit

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<v Speaker 3>is glorified to be you know, TVs and cameras make

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<v Speaker 3>shit an extra nowadays.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, well, think about this, bro, I would say, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>Dirt is making some pretty good money for himself. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Dirk probably a millionaire. I'll be remiss to say without

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<v Speaker 2>counting nobody's pockets. And I don't know what that man

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<v Speaker 2>got more do I care, But I'm pretty sure he

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<v Speaker 2>doing well for himself or for his family or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Mmh.

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<v Speaker 1>He just pretty much do all that shit away.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, sometimes, like I said, some dudes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the image of.

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<v Speaker 4>The neighborhood is everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So or I guess some niggas think they just that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in with motherfuckers that.

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<v Speaker 4>Niggers ain't gonna tail or snake.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we let by that cold, you get me,

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<v Speaker 3>So it ain't nobody gonna tail or not.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know we lived by the cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Or think about it like this, whatever he did or

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do, you know, that's what the court alogue decide.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not the judge and the jury. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish the brother the best, you know, but whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was that he did, it didn't bring his homeboy back. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he just made matters worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think people. I think people a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times. Man, I don't even want to say when

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<v Speaker 2>people young. I just think people in general now just

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<v Speaker 2>do dumb stuff. I think they really crash.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, eh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think they really put too much thought

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<v Speaker 2>into doing stuff before.

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<v Speaker 3>They do it, right. That's that's that's the muddle nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said, ship a lot of youngsters, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>don't know the way. And you know, money is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to motherfuckers. You feel me, You know, some niggas

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<v Speaker 3>feel you know that that dollar sign is everything. So

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<v Speaker 3>nigga offered me some shit, nigga, and I'm not, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you niggas is running around flossing and

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<v Speaker 3>Rose Royces and chains and all that. And you're still

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<v Speaker 3>a young nigga on the block, hungry shit. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that little the little funds is gonna go go make

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<v Speaker 3>you feel it's gonna go far, you know, But in

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<v Speaker 3>the long run, you gonna be the motherfucker that they

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<v Speaker 3>knocking on their door. And that's what I say. You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta watch out what you do shit, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, if a nigga get caught up,

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<v Speaker 3>he definitely gonna come pointing the finger, you feel me

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<v Speaker 3>if he ain't in that position you're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, bro, you jumped in the

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<v Speaker 2>rep game real young, like you was a kid pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much definitely did you have any pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>From the neighborhood?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the deal? It's your boy, big steal. On this

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<v Speaker 2>episode Against the Chronicles podcast, me and MCA try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out why the average kid in the hood wants

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<v Speaker 2>to be the neighborhood ghetto god despite the consequences of

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<v Speaker 2>being death, prison, betrayal and all that other stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Against the Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you always have pressure to do shit, you get me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you just have to, man, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>just out there, you know, hope hopefully you're able to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, make it through certain situations. But you know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of us, you know who get in those

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<v Speaker 3>uh who get in those positions. You know, your face

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of adversity. Man, when you still claim

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<v Speaker 3>in the neighborhood and you only come up and then,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, it's always gonna look. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>grass is greener on the other side to some niggas,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not knowing what struggles you're going through. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>money woes, family taxes and all that shit or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't look at that. So you know, when you

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<v Speaker 3>get faced with that adversity, you have to you have

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<v Speaker 3>to choose which route you want to take, because, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, at the end of the day, if something happens,

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<v Speaker 3>nine times out of ten, niggas gonna come pointing the

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<v Speaker 3>fingers and saying, hey, we got it from or they

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<v Speaker 3>bought it, or he gave it or supplied it, or whooped,

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<v Speaker 3>he whoomped. You know, and now you you were part

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<v Speaker 3>of the conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what you said, the key word conspiracy. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think we put too much Do you think we

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<v Speaker 2>give too much credit to neighborhood status today?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know what you know, the youngsters

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<v Speaker 3>feel today or what the neighborhood codes may be today.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, like I said, I'm always saying, and shit was

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<v Speaker 3>different than what I went through as a teenager as

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<v Speaker 3>far as neighborhood choices and whatever. But with with like's

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<v Speaker 3>camera action. You feel me, it's glorified a thousand more percent.

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<v Speaker 4>You get me.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what the youth and the young the young

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<v Speaker 3>homies have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>You get me.

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<v Speaker 3>Nowadays, a nigga puts you on black nigga can't just

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<v Speaker 3>say something about you. Nigga puts you on blasts on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>on a channel. You know, anything, shit go far today,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of hard to deal.

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<v Speaker 4>With that, especially when you only trying to come up

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<v Speaker 4>for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know what, I think that makes

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<v Speaker 2>it even worse. I think it's special. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>see it now even with the podcast stuff. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a cat that's trying to ain't and it ain't just

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<v Speaker 2>a say a part about it. It ain't just the

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<v Speaker 2>young niggas, it's the old niggas too. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make a name for themselves. So they go say whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whether it's true false, a little bit true.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care. They're trying to get They trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get their name, you know, they're trying to get their name.

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<v Speaker 1>Poper.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that's the but see that's that that's the

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<v Speaker 3>difference of what niggas felt as back in the days.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as now, everything is commercialized and monetized right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, if you say it's to the fact

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<v Speaker 3>of og in that position, then they strictly on.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm trying to get paid.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me if I know stories or whatever or

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<v Speaker 3>hear rumors or in your window, then you know, why

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<v Speaker 3>not me?

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<v Speaker 4>You feel me? Shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Why not me?

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<v Speaker 4>Makes some money off off the bullshit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think you gotta have some man, all

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<v Speaker 2>money and good money, man, because the one thing about

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<v Speaker 2>it you had to run across these people definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you go put yourself in a position if

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<v Speaker 3>that's where you want to go, So you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to you know, you're trying to run it

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<v Speaker 3>like a journalist or whatever they do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know why.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm just delivering the questions, man, I'm just asking,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but with certain situations nowadays, you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>people can't take criticism or whatever it might be. So

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<v Speaker 3>you have to understand what you might be getting yourself into.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel me, And you know what I decided man, that.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't want to be that dude man to

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<v Speaker 2>put you know, don't get me wrong, I like joking

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and you know, we do some stuff we

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<v Speaker 2>got to report on. It's just big, right. But I decided, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I had this whole thing, like an hour loan, like

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<v Speaker 2>interview man with this chick I ringing across. There's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the girls that sueing Diddy right right, And I decided, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>after a while, after just deliberating, Man, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be involved with this stuff because I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>it's true, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not true exactly, you know what I'm saying. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to kick another brother when you because

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<v Speaker 2>you can think about what's going on right now. Black men,

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<v Speaker 2>especially men are some means and it got some success

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<v Speaker 2>under they've built and got some ms under they built.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we under the tech right now. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have to be careful man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's why I try to stay, you know, out

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<v Speaker 3>of the line like a ship, because it's easy to

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<v Speaker 3>get yourself in the bullshit that you can't get out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel with this longevity that that a nigga

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<v Speaker 3>been able to sustain and you know, I've had my

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<v Speaker 3>you know, situations as a youth and whatever, and to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to be around now and to observe and

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<v Speaker 3>see shit and to be able to avoid a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of drama. Man, you know who wants that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And even with us, man, we've been fortunate we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have some of the biggest names on the show. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have people to get a lot of risk respect

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<v Speaker 2>you know for us as well, We got respect for them.

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<v Speaker 1>On the show, right. And I just thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, man, you know what, Yeah, you might get

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<v Speaker 2>some clicks and some likes and some views and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but then what happens after that?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Shit, you put yourself in that position, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>and then then it goes to the factor where you

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<v Speaker 3>have people starting to pick sides. And when you in

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<v Speaker 3>this game of trying to stay relevant, you need everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, A part of the a

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<v Speaker 3>part of the plan. And when you alienate motherfuckers because

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<v Speaker 3>some people don't like bullshit, you get now you're having

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<v Speaker 3>you got people picking and choosing which route they want

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<v Speaker 3>to take as to you know, everybody can join along.

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<v Speaker 3>And man, that shit is straight. Man, they're cool. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>get in no bullshit. It's always straight narrow. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>be trying to trick niggas up and all that as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to being a part of that. Now you lose

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<v Speaker 3>in a certain motherfuckers. These niggas are messy and shit

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<v Speaker 3>and they always on some bullshit bringing up cr You know,

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<v Speaker 3>some people like it and some people don't. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>now you got motherfuckers picking and choosing when you can

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<v Speaker 3>just have everybody who just wants to join along because.

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<v Speaker 4>The shit is a good situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, I think you can be an

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<v Speaker 2>edgy dude man without without jumping in the pig p

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<v Speaker 2>and so to speak, you feel me definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>without jumping in the pig pen. I just really think, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I almost feel bad, Like I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Hills. He's not no little kid man, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know his career was really like he was on the upswing.

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<v Speaker 2>He has started doing bigger stuff, you know, I said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a shame. And you know how hard it heal

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<v Speaker 2>was to sustain in the REP game.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro. It's really hard to stay relevant, man, And you

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<v Speaker 1>know when you get something like this happening, man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a career killer.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like I said, we not knowing the outcome,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all kind of shit can happen because of

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<v Speaker 3>what somebody says, so just gotta follow it. But just

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<v Speaker 3>to be in that position you get me and having

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<v Speaker 3>to be locked up and can't be with your kids

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<v Speaker 3>and your usual program, it fuck shit up, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. And just to have your name tied

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<v Speaker 3>into the shit, you know, uh, kind of destroys what

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Those corporate motherfuckers was, you know, was easing

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<v Speaker 3>up wanting to deal with a motherfucker now you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get people to back off when you get into

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<v Speaker 3>type of situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they gotta. They almost had to back off, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta think about this, right. They got to back off, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's so much money at stake, right exactly, and

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<v Speaker 2>they got so much other stuff going on there, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's hard to go back and get that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you get proved to be innocent and get

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<v Speaker 2>exonerated or whatever, you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go back and get it no more. It's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Once it's gone, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Gone, exactly. There's no there's no let's go back, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>R you said, when it's gone, it's gone, so uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's you know, it's it's it feels good

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<v Speaker 3>to keep that, uh, that representation of of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being with the homies and you know, trying to uplift

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<v Speaker 3>the homies and and and doing what you're supposed to. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what's the code of what your neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 3>what intends when you say you claiming and doing that lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is what it leads to, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Because if you say you in it too,

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<v Speaker 3>if you know what I'm saying, if that's your position

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm still with the niggas where I came up

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<v Speaker 3>from and whatever, then you're gonna be expected to do

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<v Speaker 3>certain shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you look at the thing with we're young thug,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing he got going on. This dude don't

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<v Speaker 2>have been in trial man pretty much three four years

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<v Speaker 2>right right, that's three or four years that he got gone. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>no show money. And when you hot and you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>that show money, it's like you almost changed up. So

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<v Speaker 2>he missing out on millions of dollars right now, right

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<v Speaker 2>and study paying more money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you got to pay an attorney and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>He got huh, definitely you ain't you're not making too

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<v Speaker 3>much money when you locked up, and then the little

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<v Speaker 3>money you is making everything is doing because shit attorney

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<v Speaker 3>fees be flipping. Okay, that shit was for the last

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<v Speaker 3>six months. Now I need retain her for the next

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<v Speaker 3>six months.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, so you figure all this money. Man, you know

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<v Speaker 2>he was he was doing. He was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that was doing good for himself too. You think

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<v Speaker 2>about it now, and a lot of his homies is

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<v Speaker 2>taking pleading deals because it's almost like, do I run

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<v Speaker 2>the risk, even though I may be innocent. Do I

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<v Speaker 2>run the risk and try to fight this thing, or

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<v Speaker 2>do I just want to get it over with now?

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<v Speaker 2>He almost better off taking the at this point a

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<v Speaker 2>plea deal because he figured, for hell, if I can

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<v Speaker 2>get nine years like the homie I don't know already

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<v Speaker 2>done three or four, you feel, I mean, that's got

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<v Speaker 2>five more left. I can get out and have a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of career left over. I just think, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one thing that I do know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>so much about the dirt stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But they said, you know, thug was out there getting busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, when you when you put yourself, when

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<v Speaker 3>you put yourself in the positions and shit to where

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<v Speaker 3>you know you want to be the forefront and you

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<v Speaker 3>want to be real authentic with it. Shit, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>You put yourself in a position. Now now you got

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<v Speaker 3>to ride that wave. You can't turn around and and

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<v Speaker 3>start going, shit, I'm gonna take a plead.

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<v Speaker 4>That's for the other motherfuckers to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why he's still sitting there, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>because he feel I'm gonna be the example to what's official.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for real, for real. And it's like, you got

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<v Speaker 2>that choice to make, man, And really it's almost easier

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<v Speaker 2>to make the first choice a to just say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, man, I'm gonna keep my nose clean. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just think, man, that the desire to have that

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<v Speaker 2>hood fame almost have passed the rap shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but something like I said, when you come

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<v Speaker 3>from that lifestyle, it is more desirable sometime, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, to be more respected in the hood,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, fuck this rap shit.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, the real shit is where the niggas come from,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where you get respected.

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<v Speaker 4>You feel me.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of niggas who walk that lifestyle. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said back in the days, that's the right, a

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<v Speaker 3>right of passage for some niggas, going to prison, doing

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<v Speaker 3>your couple of years, coming back to the hood with

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<v Speaker 3>them stripes on your motherfucking chest.

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<v Speaker 4>You feel me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let me ask you this eight when you was

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<v Speaker 2>a young dude, because because you know, you want them

0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.680
<v Speaker 2>dudes that don't been fortunate man stood test of time,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. Right, do you think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>time when you was a youngin that being from Tragon

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<v Speaker 2>you meant more to you than being MC eight.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean definitely. I mean shit, I didn't. I didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, I didn't really glorify the MC eight ship.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt, you know, niggas was going around the world

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<v Speaker 3>and the country and doing all that shit. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was better to come back home and ride the streets

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<v Speaker 3>of Counting and be recognized by the niggas on the

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<v Speaker 3>block and people in the city. You feel me, That

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<v Speaker 3>felt more, You know, that felt like you had you,

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<v Speaker 3>you had represented. You know what I'm saying, And that's

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<v Speaker 3>that was always first with a motherfucker that I'm representing

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<v Speaker 3>the city, fuck you know, everywhere else. For the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that I get to go around and people know that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Compton and I'm still in the city and representing,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah to some people. You know when you get

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<v Speaker 3>into that mind state. Definitely for some niggas who claim

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<v Speaker 3>in the neighborhood, damn right, did.

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<v Speaker 2>The Press river become like a headache because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got people even with me, even with this, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't maturity.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me, like I said, I used to be

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<v Speaker 3>the same like some of the niggas are today. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't tell a motherfucker nothing. It's the neighborhood, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>city where we're from. It's about nothing else. But then

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<v Speaker 3>as more as you mature and you see life and

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<v Speaker 3>you go around and you do other things, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you start getting cool with niggas you was beefing with

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<v Speaker 3>and all that, you start seeing that there's more to

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<v Speaker 3>life than certain shit. Now you saying that you would

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<v Speaker 3>trade it for anything, but just the fact that I

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<v Speaker 3>could have you know, it could have been different. But

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<v Speaker 3>you have to go through those motherfucking situations and those

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<v Speaker 3>trials and tribulations, especially when you grow up in certain

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<v Speaker 3>in areas. You get me like, had you grown up

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<v Speaker 3>in a different environment than who knows what the outcome

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<v Speaker 3>may be there might not have been an MC eight

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<v Speaker 3>if the situation was different. But because of what I

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<v Speaker 3>lived and what I seen and experienced as a young

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<v Speaker 3>kid growing up in Compton, then you know that the

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<v Speaker 3>product is what produced.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta think about this or right, we only got

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<v Speaker 2>like as you get older, you start seeing, man at

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<v Speaker 2>time just go fast as hell, right, so we only

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<v Speaker 2>have our youth for like this long right, and when

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<v Speaker 2>you look back, I even think about some of the

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I did. Right now, I say, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I kind of wasted time a little bit.

0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I wasted a little bit of time. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>as you get older, you start being a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more ingreedy with your time. Right, You don't want to

0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.800
<v Speaker 2>get caught up in no dumb shit. You don't want to.

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.200
<v Speaker 2>You know certain people that you even people you got

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<v Speaker 2>love for. You may say, you know what, I really

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<v Speaker 2>ain't got no time to hang out with so and

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<v Speaker 2>so because he you know, this is what he owned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not into that no more. You feel me exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>I think definitely, Man, you for sure have to make

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<v Speaker 2>wire's choices because the time just goes so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Like I remember when I remember when.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when me and the homie was serving right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember when he got locked up the last

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<v Speaker 2>the next time I saw him, we was prone ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Men, dog right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it goes quick.

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<v Speaker 3>You give me, the years start flying by and you

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<v Speaker 3>start realizing, like, damn, you give me, I wasted a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time, and then there was a lot of

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.679
<v Speaker 3>shit you probably wish you could have accomplished that. You know,

0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I was fucking up in a lot of bullshit, but

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know anything because I didn't have a guidance

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<v Speaker 3>of knowing or you know, once I got a family

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<v Speaker 3>and got older and seeing things differently, you feel me because.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you the tightest stuff we can do, man,

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<v Speaker 2>is like really we need to start honoring cast it

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and nothing that. I don't never want nobody to give

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<v Speaker 2>me praise to being a father because that's what I'm

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be doing. We're supposed to be fathers to

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<v Speaker 2>our kids and do the right thing right. But I

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.919
<v Speaker 2>think that's the thing we need to really start, like

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<v Speaker 2>give another brother's props on man, taking care of your family.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's real g ship right there. Dogs taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of your family and making sure they don't your sons

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<v Speaker 2>don't come up in the same situations you when you

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<v Speaker 2>know you came you might have went through.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, well, you know that that be that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be the goal, right, Don't let you you know, don't

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.360
<v Speaker 3>let your your your your fucking don't let your offspring

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<v Speaker 3>go through you know, the terrible situation because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just face it, us, my our generation growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>we had a little hard you feel me, let's not

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't easy growing up as a kid, and you

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<v Speaker 3>probably figured like, damn, life ain't gonna never get better,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, living in Cleveland, I mean living in Ohio,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, me living in you know, poverty in the

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<v Speaker 3>ghetto and counting. There was probably times to where you

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<v Speaker 3>just was like, this is this is life?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? We got me as gonna get out of there.

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>At one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like I don't know what ambitions you had or

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<v Speaker 3>what I don't know, but before all those dreams and ambitions,

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<v Speaker 3>it was shit.

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 4>This is what's this is what's going down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be real with you, bro. I had dreams and

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>ambitious men, but that stuff seems so far away. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to just get through the day where

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<v Speaker 2>I was at you feel what I'm saying, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>would have like dreams sometimes to think about like man

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<v Speaker 2>and my dreams is just so basic, even as basically

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<v Speaker 2>as I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To create without no roaches or no rets, right, I mean,

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.400
<v Speaker 3>like I said, a kid, a kid with dreams, those

0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 3>eight nine, ten years year old, eleven twelve. Like it

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 3>was times where you was like, nigga, this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is what this is what's finna be life?

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Yet your dad went to work and whatever, or your

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 3>mom's did whatever.

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.680
<v Speaker 4>We didn't have the best car or the best place.

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 3>And you know, and you know old food was whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and but you didn't complain because she was like, nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what's this is what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to know the crazy part about that stuff? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I used to be feeling embarrassed around the homies,

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Like if my mom came to pick the nigga up

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 2>in the bucket or whatever dog, and you think about it,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>they got the same shit that you got.

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<v Speaker 1>It you embarrassed, Like what is you embarrassed? I remember

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>my MoMA. You remember them gremlins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, my mama had a gremlin. That mug was purple dog,

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and she would come and pick me up. Right now,

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I remember somebody had to. I remember I got in

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 2>a car trying to drive the car and back the

0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 2>car the driveway and tore the door off the thing. Right, So,

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 2>my pops had put some plastic man on the motherfucker and.

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Putting some bricks on top of it. Moms are pulled

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>to the bus stop talking about she gonna pick me

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>up from schools, but the blowing niggas on the bus

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>looking they climb this shit. Man, I'm like, damn, Mama,

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>why you pick me up in that piece of shit?

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>But that was what it was, though, Bro. I looked

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>back at it now and think about it. Man, what

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>was I trying to front for them dudes? For them

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>niggas didn't have shit either. They didn't have a motherfucking thing.

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's just what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>You just felt like you had a little bit under

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 3>it than everybody not knowing shit. Their motherfucker's struggling, just

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 3>like they live around the corner. Shit, you feel it

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 3>around the corner for real.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember, you know if the homies come over, Dog,

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 2>you was hoping the ropes didn't come out of a

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>wreck don't run across the floor. You feel what I mean,

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 2>but you go over they crib. I stopped feeling bags.

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I go over they crib and they got more roaches.

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<v Speaker 4>Than we do exactly. So I mean, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody, you know, certain people went through certain situations and

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 3>that's what you dealt with. And like I said, at

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<v Speaker 3>some time, you felt this is life, man, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>happy about it.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.239
<v Speaker 4>I can't complain about it.

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>And then you start, you know, as you get older,

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<v Speaker 3>into your teens and you know, you're seventeens and eighteens,

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 3>and you start, you know, if you start doing that

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>hood life shit, then you don't give a fuck about

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 3>nothing else because to you, this is this is life.

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 3>And so nigga, we was able to sell some little

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<v Speaker 3>crack pieces and piece up on drink and weed and

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe fucking on some broads or whatever, and

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 3>that was that was life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, really, you know one thing I'm glad about though

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 2>I did start serving when I came out to California,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I really didn't get into an Ohio man,

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 2>because they was going hard like everybody I knew. Man

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>almost became like little young king pinions. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a happy anything of that. I remember hearing about little

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<v Speaker 2>homies back at the crib homies that was my age,

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>having like one hundred two hundred thousand racks up under

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>the mattress dog and just and driving and driving, you know,

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>driving nice whips and stuff. Man, driving on motherfucking what

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 2>was the name of the motherfuckers, the ninety eight O's mobiles,

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Just having an Olds Mobile, just sitting on rims with

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the pied negg up and then take that you feel

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. And they just doing it big, right.

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 2>But all them dudes, man did real time. Man, Some

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of them dudes just now coming home over the past

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 2>few years.

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because them drug loss back when we was coming

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 3>up was vicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Get real vicious.

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 3>They was real vicious. So you know you was getting shit.

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 3>You was getting.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty years and shit and crazy time back then.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>You know some of the homies who was getting caught up, nigga,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 3>he was getting fifty five seventy years.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 4>And crazy shit.

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 3>So but like I said, it was everything to some niggas,

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, being representing the neighborhood and being known from

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 3>the hood and you know, having the attention of everybody

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, that was success to a motherfucker.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 4>You get me.

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure out why, because I'm gonna

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>tell you, Like I just said, I had homies. Man,

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>who's my age, dudes who was seventeen that had two hundred,

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand dollars dog cars, and they get to

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the point they ain't even staying with their mama no more.

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 1>They got apartments, dog like maybe two or three apartments,

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and they just doing it big. And you hearing about them,

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, man, damn he not such and such

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>down he doing this. He showed out doing this.

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 2>The homy ran through the hood and through fifty thousand

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 2>dollars out the window with everybody. You feel what I'm saying,

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 2>And it's like we really glorify that stuff when we

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>were kids, dog, that's what we want. I remember, man,

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 2>at one time, Man, I wanted to be the biggest

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 2>d boy ever.

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Because like I said, it's hard, you know, for

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 3>a young for a young kid who living in that

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 3>situation in poverty, you can't really you can't really bamboozle

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>me with the with the with the with the story

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 3>school books of how heroes are supposed to be.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 4>You're getting a.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Kid growing up in poverty. Hero is the nigga who

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 3>hit in the corner with the fat chain on in

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the new car with the rims, and you know that's

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the hero. You get me, because what is that motherfucker doing.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 3>You get me the motherfucker who hard worked and went

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 3>to school and whatever, and they got the name and

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 3>they sitting up in the suit with the picture and everything.

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>The nigga like that ain't putting no food on the

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 3>table right now. That ain't helping with the poverty situations

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm in, or or you know, just family. Just toe

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 3>up and you get me. And sometimes you ain't even

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 3>got to be on it. There's a lot of kids

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 3>who go through sports and shit like that. You hear

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>the stories.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 4>You get me.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>We was homeless, nigga. We was living in shelters, but

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I was going to practice every day. You're getting me.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I could have been out there slanging and doing some

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 3>crazy shit, but I decided, fuck it, my my my

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>claim fan gonna be sports. You know, we got a

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of choices and different choices you know nowadays, back then,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't you know, not to say we didn't, but

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 3>one thing. We had too many choices growing up in

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the city. Feel Oh no, you know what.

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>That's why I said I'm glad when I decided to

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>jump off the court because I stir the death was

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit at the crib, but I was on

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>my way out here right now.

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that once.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I did get out here, even though I had that

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>desire to be the biggest deep boy ever, I still

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of had football to keep me focused, you feel

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So it was like it was like, Okay,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm out here for this. I can't mess that up,

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you feel what I'm saying. I still had that opportunity,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>that dream was in the reach, so I think that

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of diverted me a little bit. And then by

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the homie going to jail that who was really my

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>connecting everything, it kind of like left me on struck

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and it really just forced me to focus more on football.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:11.959
<v Speaker 4>Right right.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I think about it now.

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Had I really had I really focused more on ball

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>dog instead of running the streets, I think I could

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>have did a lot better.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Man, I think about that sometimes, you know exactly.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Had I stayed focused, Because see, the thing was when

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>it came time for me to leave Long Beach City College. Right,

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I had big schools, like I had the Miami Hurricanes. Dog,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I had the Virginia Tech. I had Virginia Tech, I

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 2>had Miami, I had Oregon. I might have had Michigan

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>or Michigan State. That was so long ago. I had

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>different people offered me scholarships, but they wanted me to

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>graduate in the spring, and I couldn't come out that

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>summer because I messed up so bad my first year.

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Not too bad, but you gotta remember I was skipping classes. Man,

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I was doing this. I just enough just to be

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>elisib bro right, and had I handled my business, there's

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>no telling what I would have went. Because I think

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 2>about it now, I'm like, man, the Mexican State Nigga

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>had ten or eleven sex. If I'd have did that

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>for the Hurricanes, if Virginia Tech or Michigan or something

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>like that, I ain't no telling, man, where I could

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>where the boy could have.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Win, you know, exactly, ain't no.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Telling where the boy could have win.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>But then I think again, sometimes, man, stuff happened just

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 2>the way it's supposed to happen.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, That's like I said, life is is you get

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 3>put in the position and then it's up to you

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to follow the path.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it could get rocky, sometimes it could get you

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 3>know whatever. But that's that's your life plan. Man, You

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 3>feel me, And that's that's how it happened. Any other

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 3>way it could have happened would have been different. Who

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>knows where motherfucker would they ended up.

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I think about that too.

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, had I went to one of those other schools,

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I may not have been with my wife, dog, I

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.719
<v Speaker 2>may not have my kids. I got no, I wouldn't

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>trade them dudes, that girl and them two boys from

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>none in the world exactly.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 3>So you know, you get put in positions and sometimes

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>you have to go. Like I said, I tell people

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>all the time, sometimes motherfuckers go through it easy and

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, you wake up and overnight success and you

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>be whatever whatever. But that fall be kind of hard

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.239
<v Speaker 3>when you don't know how to go through adversity and

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 3>all of that. So sometimes we have to take that long,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 3>hard road just to get to the end of the shit.

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>You feel me, Oh yeah for sure, man, because they,

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>like you said, man, stuff feels what it is. You

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I wanted to ask you, right, we came

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 2>up in that time in the nineties, man, and it

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was so much you feelure you had the move, you

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>had Scarface, right, you had all of these movies. Man,

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>they kind of like I ain't gonna say they glorified everything,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>but they made all that stuff look.

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:55.959
<v Speaker 4>Cool, man, exactly.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>They made all that stuff look like it was the

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>thing to do because it was probably because it wasn't

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>too many options for us. Like, I'm not gonna lie, bro.

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I never saw myself being a doctor. I never saw

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>myself being a lawyer. If I didn't play professional football,

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what I was gonna do for a

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>long time, bro.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, you get those dreams. You get those

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 4>dreams as.

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 3>A kid, you know, or whatever it is, you know,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 3>feeling like you want to do whatever, and a lot

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 3>of it. You know, I'm gonna be a doctor, lawyer,

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be a professional football player.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 3>We have those aspirations as a kid. But like I said,

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you get the path crossed. You know, you get

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>to the crossroads and you don't know which way you

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>supposed to go, so you you take the roads you think,

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and it might get a little bumpy, you know, not

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>just saying you ain't gonna reach your destiny. But shit,

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 3>sometimes the roads are different from everybody else.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 3>That's how I look at it. Shit, the way I

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>came mouth is, Hey, that's the turn I was supposed

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 3>to make.

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you think about like you all, I don't know

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>if you see it or not. Dog you want them

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>dudes that defied the eys man, that became one of

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the crazy this shit doog.

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's it's work and you don't even

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 3>look at it like that. Like I said, when I was,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, doing what I do, I just did it

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 3>because I felt, you know, this is the path I'm

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be taken. Had I done anything differently, or

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 3>or wrapped about anything differently, or went through anything differently

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>as a youth growing up, you know, with my parents

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 3>and poverty and living in different sections, and you know,

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and it's just what it is.

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>What it is, like sniff something wouldn't There's.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Been situations to where I could have been just like

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 3>any other nigga got shot killed, you know, been a

0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>martyr for the neighborhood or whatever.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Because there was a lot of us who went through that.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, there was a lot of niggas that you

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>probably felt who was gonna live forever?

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 4>And you wake up and they gone, you get me.

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Just bro And and it's unfortunate because there are some

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 3>dudes that you wouldn't you know, you wouldn't think in

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 3>your life, you know what would har I'm a fly,

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. Niggas was just cool as

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 3>a motherfucking fan. Niggas was from the hood and everything

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 3>was whatever it did. But you would never think niggas

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 3>would be in those positions and shit, And unfortunately that's

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 3>the life that that happened.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I call them dudes, man. I used

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to have a name for them. I call them ghettle guys.

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Man catch This seemed like they were just And.

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 2>The one thing, man, that that really made me start

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 2>thinking is I figured out, especially once I came out

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>here to La Man, I see every neighborhood, got to

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 2>get them, got every neighborhood, got that.

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>One cat you catch and it's usually just one. Right.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>They just seem like he invincible, He got all the money,

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>he kind of hold the hood down. He liked by everybody.

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 2>But then once you see him gett knocked down, you say, man,

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>they knocked him down.

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Anybody get knocked down.

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what the that's what the surprise about shit be,

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Like anybody could get taken down and you don't You

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 3>don't realize that till after you know, you see it,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 3>because like you said, some dudes have the the mentality

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.879
<v Speaker 3>of the or the moral compass of this motherfucker gonna

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>be around forever.

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. Can't nobody fuck with the

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 4>homie and shit?

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 3>They just vicious and everybody know the nigga and you

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 3>know he's untouchable and the next thing you know, damn,

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 3>like what the fuck happened?

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's all if you notice adust always they get

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>touched by somebody who wasn't even affected like that, you

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>wind up here anybody like what Like I remember one

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 2>homie man and that was back in the hood. Man

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.879
<v Speaker 2>that was like mister big Man. He got smoked by

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 2>his broad thog.

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 3>You hear a lot of crazy stories of how you know,

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 3>not everybody got killed by dry buys or whatever. You

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>niggas died because of all kind of shit, you know,

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, girls setting them up, niggas getting robbed, you know,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 3>bad drug deals and shit, you know, life was everything.

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 3>You got it all. You know what I'm saying. There

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 3>was nothing that was missed. Believe me, man, I know.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 2>I got some cousins man who wasn't as fortunate as

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I was, because I was very fortunate to be able

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to have a little skate rock, right. I got cousins

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>man that wound up doing major time man for Heroin

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Man, it was really out there getting to it right.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>It was playing a dangerous game, you know, because you.

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Know when you messing with the h man, you get

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time man like that someone.

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It's enhanced.

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Man. It ain't like you telling nothing else. Man, You're

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 2>getting attempted murder charts and all kind of stuff.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Man. Yeah, every everything bring different shit.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 3>That's why I said you got to be careful when

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 3>you choose the lifestyle, because then you got to watch

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 3>out because you know, you never know who prays on

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 3>your downfall. You know, a lot of time, it's a

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 3>lot of niggas that's right up under you. Because I say,

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:27.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, regardless of what you think you may be doing,

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 3>you never doing enough.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Man. I'd yeah, for real.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 3>There's probably a few dudes who you know, you you

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>sitting up with and you know you're flossing that money,

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and you know you're doing interviews with money on the

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 3>table and pulling up with jewelry and fancy cars.

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's the smile in your face a situation.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 3>It's a nigga gonna stand right in your face, puff

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>on your weed, drink on your drain, give you adapt,

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 3>pat you on the back, and then gonna go home

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 3>and be like, which way can we do? A motherfucker,

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 3>because at the end of the day, I don't got

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:08.240
<v Speaker 3>what that nigga.

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Guys, I'm gonna tell you something. Man shot up to

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the homeboy Man till I think you remember you remember

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>my homeboy that came out here, Man from Ohio. He

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>came out, He came up to the show and just

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 1>set up there. He didn't come on with nothing for shure,

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>He just he just got home. Man. A few years ago, Man,

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and the catch rated on him. Man was a dude.

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 4>We grew up with bro the ship.

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's always somebody that they can probably get

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 3>to and sometimes unfortunately, as some motherfucker that's right next

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 3>to you, you get somebody.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be accountable because I'm gonna tell

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you what was so cold about. But we were so

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>cold about the Homie Dukees. Man was he was off

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the game, bro Like he was done. He had kind

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>of like stacked his chips up. Dog had bought him

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>a couple of garage, just had some busin is this going,

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>had a couple of houses. You know, he had his

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>money straight right right, he was done, And he kept saying, man,

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 2>because it come a point to where when.

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>The fez is on you, they started talking to you. Right.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 2>They had told him like, man, we almost had you,

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>we almost has you. So we had this one nigga

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that we knew.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>He was like he was hustling too, but he was

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of like he wasn't on the same level as

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 2>the homie was, but he was.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Doing this thing right. He had started calling him out

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the blue, like, man, I need to get to him,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, because as much as people be talking, man,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it ain't that easy.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 2>To come up on birds dog like that. No, it's

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 2>not unless you just know somebody. Dog, it's not easy.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, you could be making your money and never

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 2>touch a bird. You feel what I'm saying, right, So

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 2>he kept asking Homie the Homie said he had this

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 2>feeling like, man, I shouldn't be doing this.

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't mess with this nigga. This niggain't never did

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing like that, you know what I mean? And why

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>is he ask me for this now? You know? So

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the home, he was like, man, no, no, no, kept

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>telling him no, no, no, and he kept saying, Man,

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 1>he remember the day like it was yesterday. He said,

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, Man, I got you. He went and made

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>that phone call when a guy that said he went

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>over there, right, he said, he even sat in the

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>car for about thirty forty minutes just kind of like

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like like I should just turn back

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>around and go home. You feel what I'm saying, right,

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 1>And he as soon as he went up there, man

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and knocked on the door.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Man, he said, it seemed like the police just came

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere. He said, Man, I didn't even see

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 2>him coming. It was like they came up off the floor,

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>off the ground on my ass. And next you know,

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>he was like, man, I knew this was gonna happen.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.240
<v Speaker 2>A nigga that we grew up with. Though he because

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't handle he got caught up in some other stuff.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>And gave it Homi up.

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, some guy, that's how the scenario go. You know

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 3>you can too. You can sing that song for a

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 3>lot of people, you know, saying that shit.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the ultimate rad shit though, that's the ultimate you

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta be.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>One thing I always say at eight, I ain't never

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I tell the people all the time, I ain't never

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 2>been no game banger, and I ain't gonna sit up

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>here and say I was need no need, no brown

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>enough shit like that. Right, But the one thing I

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 2>always did, man, I was always accountable for what I did.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go never telling nobody's dog to get out

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 2>of a situation. I guess I look at people like

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 2>that as people have a clear a character flawed Bro.

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you do, Bro, you gotta stand on your own stuff. Man,

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you gotta you gotta you know, you gotta eat your

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 2>own shit dog.

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean if you want to

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 3>put yourself in those positions, Like I said, we got we.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>All got choices, bro, we all got choices to make it.

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like if I make this choice and decide, man,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>hey we gonna hop this gate ache.

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm making the choice just like Hugh he is right now.

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 2>If you get away dog and I get caught, I'm

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>filed for telling them what. Man, You know what, man

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 2>A actually got more than man he you know he

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>got he laid up over here. You know that's foul, bro.

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And I saw that that did to the homie. Man,

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that hurt him more than him just getting cut.

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Like man the homy told on me.

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, favor, I said, especially if you.

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 3>If you consider the motherfucker a certain type of person

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 3>or a friend or a homie or whatever. But like

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 3>I said, you never know what you know. Trust is

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 3>a big word and it goes far with certain niggas.

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 4>And a nigga can tell.

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 3>You all day oh man, you know, blah blah blah,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 3>and they can turn their back on you in the

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 3>last one. The second, you gotta understand what what being

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 3>true to a motherfucker he is. And last everybody can't

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 3>come along when it's time for you know what, it's

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>time for retribution of the paper and putting yourself in

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 3>a better position in life. There's gonna be some niggas

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>who's jealous of it, you know what I'm saying. So

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.839
<v Speaker 3>you just have to watch who you fucking with and

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>that goes back to childhood days to motherfuckers. You need

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 3>to you know tomorrow. You know everybody ain't trustworthy.

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Man, Friends, a few associates many.

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>That's something that my mama used to tell me every day, Friends,

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 2>a few associates, many, just because you know somebody I remer.

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 2>My mama tell me one day stop calling everybody your friend.

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. I don't do the shit I need motherfuckers. And

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I be like, no, that y'all's just an associate that

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 3>ain't my friend. I don't call niggas like that. You

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 3>feel me.

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm gonna tell you, man. And it's like I think.

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 2>In every neighborhood, man, you can count five brothers man

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and got the same story and just being betrayed by

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 2>somebody that they thought they was just real cool with, right,

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.919
<v Speaker 2>And you still got people that think they go jump

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in this shit and get different results. Bro, I tell people.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I should tell my sons, man, I tell the homies.

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 2>I tell everybody, y'all. I say, man, the streets don't

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>have no love for nobody.

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Bro. Oh definitely, hell no.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You taking a chance right then and there, you better

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 3>believe that they it don't.

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.240
<v Speaker 4>So you just better watch it back and watching you associate.

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 2>With Yeah, that's that's that's for real. That's for real, man.

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest advice that you can give somebody man,

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 2>if they listen.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of people don't like to listen. Go

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to school, man, Get you an education, man, if you

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>could learn you a trade or learn you a trig.

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It's all that other stuff.

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Ain't hitting on nothing, dog, don't nobody make it out.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's if you can get to a mother,

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 3>if you can get to you know, the generation and

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 3>and talk to them and convince them that you know,

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>there's a better situation out there. You know, it might

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 3>not be what you like, but it's always something better.

0:45:55.880 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 3>You feel me. Then taking those chances of those situations

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 3>to where you gotta trust somebody with your life or

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 3>your freedom, you feel me. And unfortunately, like I said,

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 3>there's just some niggas out there who just don't give

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.280
<v Speaker 3>a fuck you get.

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, man.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Like the question I asked at the beginning, Man, I

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think me and you need to one to know.

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Why does the bulls shit have such a lord of people?

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Dog?

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's a question, man, because you know people

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>who don't got told on. You got you know, people

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 2>who don't got murdered, You got people who all this

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>bad stuff I'm having to I can't think of nothing

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>good to come out of none.

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>In the hood, dog.

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a products. You know, we come out

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 3>of the neighborhood. So that's the positive aspect. There's a

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of black you know, men and young men and

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 3>you know women, you know, the sisters. We come out

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 3>of the hood as products, and we can be faced

0:46:56.280 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 3>with adversity, gains and poverty and not having the other

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 3>men have. And that goes to show you. You know,

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 3>dudes like I made records and movies, and you know,

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 3>there's just sports people, the Venuses and the Serenas and

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 3>all the sports people. That's your positive aspect of coming

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 3>out of the hood because a lot of us start

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 3>from the situation of what you see niggas go through

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 3>gang banging and drug selling and whatever, and it's hard

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 3>to stray from that lifestyle. You know, I didn't have

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 3>the pops at home who was able to be like

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 3>you know Venus and Serena parents who you know, nigga.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, I unfortunately had to go through the route

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of the hood and and you know, doing that that lifestyle,

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 3>not just saying that it was you know, to me,

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 3>it was everything. I didn't look at it as as

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 3>a flaw or a fucking It was just, you know,

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of us have obstacles we go through, and

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 3>for people who don't come through the game banging lifestyle,

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 3>your obstacle might be something else. You feel me coming

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 3>up as a teenager and trying to get to the

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>point of where you you know that you know you

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 3>you you you becoming a great man or a great product.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Of the neighborhood. You get me.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 3>The guy used to sell dope, gang bang, claim the hood,

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 3>blah blah, is x y Z.

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.840
<v Speaker 4>And then at the end of the day, my sons

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 4>ain't gonna come through that. You get me.

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.359
<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna have to claim the neighborhood and sell

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 3>crack and you know, get shot at or shoot at

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 3>motherfuckers and go through that lifestyle to crawl through shit

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 3>to come out on the end knowing that you were

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 3>always a greater, you know individual, You was always a

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 3>good man or a young man.

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 3>And it was I'm glad I was fortunate enough that

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I went through the shit that I could turn around,

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 3>and once I came out on the clean side, I

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>could turn around and.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Go, oh no, no, no.

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no you no. And I don't give

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 3>for you know, in whatever circumstance that might have caused.

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 3>But who gives a fuck because I'm already went through

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 3>the shit. So if I can, I'm gonna save you

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 3>from the shit you get me?

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, man, you got brothers man.

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 2>And the cold part about it is, Man, some of

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the most brilliant people are no come from the hood,

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>dog like. I know some smart dudes eight where if

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>they would have put that on, if they would have

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>directed the energy like towards some positive man, I swear

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>they'd have been Fortune five hundred leaders and CEOs and

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, just big time people. Man. Because I knew

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 2>some really brilliant dude. Man, I had a homeboy back

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 2>of the crib.

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>That dude was so smart, man. And I really believe

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 2>that this dude could have gotten in the harbor to

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 2>yeah or something like that. Man, he's probably been a

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 2>president of something because he always he always had a scheme,

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 2>and his schemes would be working. Dog like this dude

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 2>one day was telling me about Man. You know, if

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>we did this, man, we could probably get a couple

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars. I was like, man, you're crazy. You

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 2>want an attentiary.

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>But there would be plans that were that would be

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>really like like he had his well thought.

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 2>All plans Man, definitely, And there's a whole bunch of

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 2>people like you think about it now, like Man, you

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 2>think about cats like Harry Yo Man, cats like Freeway Rick.

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>When you serving on the level that them dudes is serving. Man,

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you can't be no dumb ass dude.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 3>And no, you got to be very articulate, and you

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 3>gotta be smart, and you can't just be naive to

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 3>regular ass life. You have to be very intelligent to

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 3>be able to deal with certain different niggas, different motherfucking situations.

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:09.399
<v Speaker 3>You know that comes with being you know, intelligent and

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 3>knowing that drama and situations are gonna get you to

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 3>a certain status and being able to deal and communicate

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 3>and be business minded is what's gonna have a gang

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 3>of motherfuckers wanting to fuck with you. So you got

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 3>to be very intelligent when you get when you reaching

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 3>that type of status, you give me.

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to get here. You on the show Man,

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 2>because that dude, think about it, that dude discovered, like

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>gave Denzel watched in his first acting job, bro had

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 2>limousine businesses, owned all them big ass buildings downtown is

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 2>worth billions of dollars.

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Now, Dog, he had all that stuff first.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, he was just doing a lot of

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 2>big stuff, man, and got cut for his legal his

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>illicit activities.

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Dog got caught up. Shoot, help start different records, you know, exactly,

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>just a cold dude.

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Man. I want to have him on the show Man

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 2>to just really talk to him, man, because that man

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>spent thirty three years playing on walls.

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, and and people like that have stories to tell

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:15.319
<v Speaker 3>of intelligence, you know, and stories of importance. You know,

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 3>even though the lifestyle my nigga came through, those stories

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 3>are valuable to help the youth understand, you know, what

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 3>circumstances that he had to go through to put himself

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 3>in that situation.

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 4>And you know, you might have looked at it as

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Positive, you know, like you said, being able to turn

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.839
<v Speaker 3>around and understand that, you know, trying to start legitimate

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 3>situations is at the end of the day, is the

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 3>quests you feel me to get out of the lifestyle.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 3>To try to change your lifestyle for the better is

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 3>what it is for at the end of the day.

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>You know what's cold o man? Shut out a snoop man.

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess some I heard the hereos the CEOO like

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the chief operating off to the new death Row records.

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully, you know, hopefully that takes off of them, man,

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 2>because it's good to see cats come home and get

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to do something.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Positive, definitely, you know, And we got a lot of them.

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 3>We got a lot of you know, uh uh individuals,

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, our brothers, like you said, who are very

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 3>intelligent and smart to begin with. That's why they were

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 3>able to have these empires and these enterprises and you know,

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 3>like my boy Kyle Lee, you know what I'm saying,

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 3>my boy Virgil, you know, be able to come home

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 3>and legitimize the situation and turn it into something legit,

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 3>and you know, to be able to have the opportunity

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 3>as the other motherfuckers, do you get me?

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>They try to watch Versus, right, they tried to really

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 1>watch Versus. Virgion was the first one, you know, we

0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>had them on the show before Version was the first

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>one really to have most stories multiple locations, definitely.

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, like I said, his story is important too

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 3>because of what he had to go through and what

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, what's what's very popularized today. You got all

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:17.640
<v Speaker 3>kinds of entertainers and sports motherfuckers getting into it. They've

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 3>got dispensaries now exactly.

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:22.919
<v Speaker 1>They got dispensary because he was the When you think

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 1>about it, he was the cookies before it was the

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>cookies exactly. And I think that it's important. And then

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the stories I want to start telling.

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Man, so over these next like for the rest of

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.399
<v Speaker 2>this year, Man, I really want to work on man

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 2>getting cats.

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Man, it's doing something positive. Now.

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm so sick of hearing about people glorifying dudes

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 2>who are not doing nothing just as they've been in

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 2>jail in a rum day life. Like, how's that glorifying something?

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, because that's the generation in the code of like

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:54.319
<v Speaker 3>you said, even back in my days, like I said,

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 3>somehow it was the right of passage to go to

0:54:56.520 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 3>prison and then to come back to the neighborhood. You

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 3>felt vindicated, You felt you know, you had really put

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 3>your stamp on you know what you saw, what which

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 3>was was true life to you and that was the

0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:16.279
<v Speaker 3>neighborhood and gang banging and representing the block. So it's

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.919
<v Speaker 3>just it's it's it's like that today with the youth,

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 3>they gonna glorify. Oh man, my nigga put in work,

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 3>my nigga. Woot the wo woot.

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 4>He won't. But you know, at the end of the day,

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:30.280
<v Speaker 4>when you behind the bars and your life is on standstill,

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 4>you know it's not you know, you're forgotten about at

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day. So let's just see how

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 4>many of you know his true people you know, stick

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 4>with and ride with him and uh, you know, endure

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 4>some of the fucked up shit that they have to

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:47.760
<v Speaker 4>go through on this journey.

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Man, when you start thinking about man, start thinking about it.

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine doing no time like that. Thirty

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 2>three years a long time, bro, Hell two years a

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 2>long time to me. You know, I don't want to

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>spend a second of my freedom being gone, exactly. I

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 2>ain't trying to spend a second of it, man, So

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to I want you to really start thinking

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>over the next few weeks, man, cats, I want to

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>try to reach out to here of yo, I wouldn't

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 2>mind going to go sit down with Virgil again. And

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.439
<v Speaker 2>what I want to talk to Virgils about this time

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 2>is like, really because Virgil is expert on how to

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:26.399
<v Speaker 2>get into the game.

0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 1>You feel what I mean. It's a lot of cats

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that want to get into the dispencery game but don't

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 1>know quite how.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 4>For sure, let's get it cracking.

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you when the last time you talked to him?

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.840
<v Speaker 4>I talked to Virgil about a week and a half ago.

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Is he still because the last time we talked he

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 2>has some stuff going on in Africa?

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he just he'd be moving. You know, that's how

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:54.719
<v Speaker 3>niggas do. They trying to set up ship worldwide and

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 3>everything else. But he always available. I just got a calling. Yeah,

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 3>that would be the.

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Coming you coming from the community eight.

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.879
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like a rap is still the number one

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 2>away that you know, young people in the neighborhood try

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 2>to use as a means to escape. What would you

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 2>tell the young dude today trying to come up the

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood by hip hop?

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't tell you because everybody follows a different path today.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, back in my days, we knew what it was,

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<v Speaker 3>but today it's all kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, what you said. It's easier today, are harder.

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<v Speaker 4>What to make a record, it's it's a record.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, But to really just do something that's impactful, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the one thing I know this man,

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<v Speaker 2>just being a dude that don't been the executive in

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easier to make records and stuff like that. Dog,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's easy to do a lot of stuff, man,

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<v Speaker 2>but is it really easier to make an impact. It's

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<v Speaker 2>because it's so crowded right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Shit, you wouldn't know better to me, my nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I stay in my lane and whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>it isn't don't try to check.

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<v Speaker 4>You would have to answer that one yourself. You the executive.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to give advice to that, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear my advice though, because I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to see some negative first alone.

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<v Speaker 3>And you let a nigga do what he gotta do

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<v Speaker 3>and let him run his course. You feel me, That's

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<v Speaker 3>just what it is. Yeah, you know, because that's just

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<v Speaker 3>telling everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's rapping, doing this podcast stuff. I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what I do know what I can tell people.

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<v Speaker 2>The money is not there in podcasting like it once was,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not gonna be for a long time. The

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<v Speaker 2>ones that's getting money now probably go continue to give money.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as you having something new, unless you

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<v Speaker 2>really make the investment and putting there and do it

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<v Speaker 2>the right way, it's probably not gonna work out for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is too many people doing this stuff right now, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like it's only so much bandwidth thog. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what this remind me of. You remember when

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<v Speaker 2>people first started hustling. Everything was cool, but then after

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<v Speaker 2>a while the block was just crowded. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>same people trying to rush the same car.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we that's why I diiggas had to start

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<v Speaker 3>making choices of what they was gonna do. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta start making choices. I need to do something else.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to start making records. I need to go

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<v Speaker 3>get a job. You know everything you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think it's so hard for people?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, you said go get a job. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are like going to go get a job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something bad or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something's it's frowned upon because you know, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to impress the motherfuck And if you're on the

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<v Speaker 3>ego of trying to impress and get you a bitch

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever like that. You know, certain certain females, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>require certain shit nowadays, and they tell you you get me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get this fake ted easy's fake ass. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put this hair in my ship. I'm gonna glorify

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<v Speaker 3>myself up. Now you gotta make you gotta be having

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<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars to fuck with this. This costs right here,

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<v Speaker 3>and and they mean it costs. It's gonna cost you

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<v Speaker 3>some trinkets, some trips, and some motherfucking some trinkets, trips,

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<v Speaker 3>and some motherfucking takes this ship.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you want?

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<v Speaker 3>She want to eat, she want to flow some little ship.

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<v Speaker 3>You need her a nice person, some diamonds and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you can't compete with that, then you you

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<v Speaker 3>you frowned upon, which is, you know, unfortunate for some

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<v Speaker 3>you know, young gentleman. But that's what the situation is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of you man. That's well.

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<v Speaker 2>That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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