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Speaker 2: star rating. The comment, man, you know what, well, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to talk about I was thinking about some stuff, right,

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Speaker 2: and I said, man, it seemed like it's a lot

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Speaker 2: and go to jail. Man, it's like they almost come

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Speaker 2: it ain't never to cares to do the long stretch.

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Speaker 1: He's always the dudes to go in to jail for

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Speaker 3: Well, ship should like that always been uh, you know

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Speaker 3: So you got there, understand who. You gotta understand who who

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Speaker 2: So well, well, think about this, bro, I would say, Look,

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Speaker 2: Dirt is making some pretty good money for himself. Well,

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Speaker 2: Dirk probably a millionaire. I'll be remiss to say without

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Speaker 3: So or I guess some niggas think they just that

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Speaker 4: Niggers ain't gonna tail or snake.

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Speaker 3: You know, we let by that cold, you get me,

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Speaker 2: Or think about it like this, whatever he did or

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Speaker 2: And I don't think people. I think people a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I think you can be an

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Speaker 3: You know, like I said, we not knowing the outcome,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they gotta. They almost had to back off, bro.

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Speaker 2: because it's so much money at stake, right exactly, and

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Speaker 1: You can't go back and get it no more. It's gone.

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Speaker 3: Gone, exactly. There's no there's no let's go back, you know.

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Speaker 3: R you said, when it's gone, it's gone, so uh,

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Speaker 3: I know it's you know, it's it's it feels good

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got to pay an attorney and stuff

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Speaker 3: He got huh, definitely you ain't you're not making too

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Speaker 2: Exactly, so you figure all this money. Man, you know

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Speaker 2: get nine years like the homie I don't know already

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Speaker 1: But they said, you know, thug was out there getting busy.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, when you when you put yourself, when

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Speaker 3: You put yourself in a position. Now now you got

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Speaker 4: That's for the other motherfuckers to do.

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Speaker 3: That's why he's still sitting there, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, for real. And it's like, you got

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Speaker 3: I mean, but something like I said, when you come

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Uh, the real shit is where the niggas come from,

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Speaker 4: You feel me.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of niggas who walk that lifestyle. Like

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Speaker 4: You feel me?

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Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this eight when you was

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Speaker 3: I mean definitely. I mean shit, I didn't. I didn't,

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Speaker 2: The Press river become like a headache because you know,

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Speaker 3: You get me, like I said, I used to be

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Speaker 2: You gotta think about this or right, we only got

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Speaker 2: You know certain people that you even people you got

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Speaker 2: so because he you know, this is what he owned.

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Speaker 1: I'm not into that no more. You feel me exactly?

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Speaker 2: I think definitely, Man, you for sure have to make

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Speaker 1: Man, Like I remember when I remember when.

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Speaker 2: I remember when me and the homie was serving right,

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Speaker 1: Men, dog right.

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Speaker 4: I mean it goes quick.

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Speaker 3: You give me, the years start flying by and you

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the tightest stuff we can do, man,

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Speaker 2: That's that's real g ship right there. Dogs taking care

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Speaker 3: Right, well, you know that that be that's supposed to

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Speaker 3: let's just face it, us, my our generation growing up,

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Speaker 3: It wasn't easy growing up as a kid, and you

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Speaker 3: probably figured like, damn, life ain't gonna never get better,

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Speaker 1: Right? We got me as gonna get out of there.

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Speaker 1: At one point.

436
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 3: Exactly like I don't know what ambitions you had or

437
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: what I don't know, but before all those dreams and ambitions,

438
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 3: it was shit.

439
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: This is what's this is what's going down.

440
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: I'll be real with you, bro. I had dreams and

441
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: ambitious men, but that stuff seems so far away. Man.

442
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: I was trying to just get through the day where

443
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: I was at you feel what I'm saying, Like I

444
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: would have like dreams sometimes to think about like man

445
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: and my dreams is just so basic, even as basically

446
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: as I want.

447
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: To create without no roaches or no rets, right, I mean,

448
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 3: like I said, a kid, a kid with dreams, those

449
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: eight nine, ten years year old, eleven twelve. Like it

450
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: was times where you was like, nigga, this is this

451
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: is what this is what's finna be life?

452
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: Right?

453
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: Yet your dad went to work and whatever, or your

454
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: mom's did whatever.

455
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: We didn't have the best car or the best place.

456
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: And you know, and you know old food was whatever,

457
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: and but you didn't complain because she was like, nigga,

458
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: this is what's this is what's happening.

459
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to know the crazy part about that stuff? Man?

460
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: I remember I used to be feeling embarrassed around the homies,

461
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: Like if my mom came to pick the nigga up

462
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: in the bucket or whatever dog, and you think about it,

463
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: they got the same shit that you got.

464
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: It you embarrassed, Like what is you embarrassed? I remember

465
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: my MoMA. You remember them gremlins.

466
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: Yep, my mama had a gremlin. That mug was purple dog,

467
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: and she would come and pick me up. Right now,

468
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: I remember somebody had to. I remember I got in

469
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: a car trying to drive the car and back the

470
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: car the driveway and tore the door off the thing. Right, So,

471
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: my pops had put some plastic man on the motherfucker and.

472
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: Putting some bricks on top of it. Moms are pulled

473
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: to the bus stop talking about she gonna pick me

474
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: up from schools, but the blowing niggas on the bus

475
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: looking they climb this shit. Man, I'm like, damn, Mama,

476
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: why you pick me up in that piece of shit?

477
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: But that was what it was, though, Bro. I looked

478
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: back at it now and think about it. Man, what

479
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: was I trying to front for them dudes? For them

480
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: niggas didn't have shit either. They didn't have a motherfucking thing.

481
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: But that's that's just what it was.

482
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: You just felt like you had a little bit under

483
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: it than everybody not knowing shit. Their motherfucker's struggling, just

484
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: like they live around the corner. Shit, you feel it

485
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: around the corner for real.

486
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: And I remember, you know if the homies come over, Dog,

487
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: you was hoping the ropes didn't come out of a

488
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: wreck don't run across the floor. You feel what I mean,

489
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: but you go over they crib. I stopped feeling bags.

490
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: I go over they crib and they got more roaches.

491
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: Than we do exactly. So I mean, so.

492
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Everybody, you know, certain people went through certain situations and

493
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: that's what you dealt with. And like I said, at

494
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: some time, you felt this is life, man, So I'm

495
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: happy about it.

496
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 4: I can't complain about it.

497
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: And then you start, you know, as you get older,

498
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: into your teens and you know, you're seventeens and eighteens,

499
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: and you start, you know, if you start doing that

500
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: hood life shit, then you don't give a fuck about

501
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: nothing else because to you, this is this is life.

502
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: And so nigga, we was able to sell some little

503
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: crack pieces and piece up on drink and weed and

504
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 3: you know, maybe fucking on some broads or whatever, and

505
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: that was that was life.

506
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: Yes, really, you know one thing I'm glad about though

507
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: I did start serving when I came out to California,

508
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad I really didn't get into an Ohio man,

509
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: because they was going hard like everybody I knew. Man

510
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: almost became like little young king pinions. But it wasn't

511
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: a happy anything of that. I remember hearing about little

512
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: homies back at the crib homies that was my age,

513
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: having like one hundred two hundred thousand racks up under

514
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: the mattress dog and just and driving and driving, you know,

515
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: driving nice whips and stuff. Man, driving on motherfucking what

516
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: was the name of the motherfuckers, the ninety eight O's mobiles,

517
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Just having an Olds Mobile, just sitting on rims with

518
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: the pied negg up and then take that you feel

519
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And they just doing it big, right.

520
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: But all them dudes, man did real time. Man, Some

521
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: of them dudes just now coming home over the past

522
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: few years.

523
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: Bro.

524
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because them drug loss back when we was coming

525
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: up was vicious.

526
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Get real vicious.

527
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: They was real vicious. So you know you was getting shit.

528
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: You was getting.

529
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: Thirty years and shit and crazy time back then.

530
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: You know some of the homies who was getting caught up, nigga,

531
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: he was getting fifty five seventy years.

532
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: And crazy shit.

533
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: You know.

534
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: So but like I said, it was everything to some niggas,

535
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: you know, being representing the neighborhood and being known from

536
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: the hood and you know, having the attention of everybody

537
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: you know, that was success to a motherfucker.

538
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: You get me.

539
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why, because I'm gonna

540
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: tell you, Like I just said, I had homies. Man,

541
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: who's my age, dudes who was seventeen that had two hundred,

542
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars dog cars, and they get to

543
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: the point they ain't even staying with their mama no more.

544
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: They got apartments, dog like maybe two or three apartments,

545
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: and they just doing it big. And you hearing about them,

546
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, like, man, damn he not such and such

547
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: down he doing this. He showed out doing this.

548
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: The homy ran through the hood and through fifty thousand

549
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: dollars out the window with everybody. You feel what I'm saying,

550
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: And it's like we really glorify that stuff when we

551
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: were kids, dog, that's what we want. I remember, man,

552
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: at one time, Man, I wanted to be the biggest

553
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: d boy ever.

554
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: Dog.

555
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because like I said, it's hard, you know, for

556
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: a young for a young kid who living in that

557
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: situation in poverty, you can't really you can't really bamboozle

558
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: me with the with the with the with the story

559
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: school books of how heroes are supposed to be.

560
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: You're getting a.

561
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: Kid growing up in poverty. Hero is the nigga who

562
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: hit in the corner with the fat chain on in

563
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: the new car with the rims, and you know that's

564
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: the hero. You get me, because what is that motherfucker doing.

565
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: You get me the motherfucker who hard worked and went

566
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: to school and whatever, and they got the name and

567
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: they sitting up in the suit with the picture and everything.

568
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: The nigga like that ain't putting no food on the

569
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: table right now. That ain't helping with the poverty situations

570
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: I'm in, or or you know, just family. Just toe

571
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: up and you get me. And sometimes you ain't even

572
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: got to be on it. There's a lot of kids

573
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: who go through sports and shit like that. You hear

574
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: the stories.

575
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: You get me.

576
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: We was homeless, nigga. We was living in shelters, but

577
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: I was going to practice every day. You're getting me.

578
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: I could have been out there slanging and doing some

579
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: crazy shit, but I decided, fuck it, my my my

580
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: claim fan gonna be sports. You know, we got a

581
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: lot of choices and different choices you know nowadays, back then,

582
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't you know, not to say we didn't, but

583
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: one thing. We had too many choices growing up in

584
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: the city. Feel Oh no, you know what.

585
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: That's why I said I'm glad when I decided to

586
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: jump off the court because I stir the death was

587
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: a little bit at the crib, but I was on

588
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: my way out here right now.

589
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: I think that once.

590
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: I did get out here, even though I had that

591
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: desire to be the biggest deep boy ever, I still

592
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: kind of had football to keep me focused, you feel

593
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it was like it was like, Okay,

594
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm out here for this. I can't mess that up,

595
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: you feel what I'm saying. I still had that opportunity,

596
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: that dream was in the reach, so I think that

597
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: kind of diverted me a little bit. And then by

598
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: the homie going to jail that who was really my

599
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: connecting everything, it kind of like left me on struck

600
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: and it really just forced me to focus more on football.

601
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 4: Right right.

602
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: I think about it now.

603
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: Had I really had I really focused more on ball

604
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: dog instead of running the streets, I think I could

605
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: have did a lot better.

606
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: Man, I think about that sometimes, you know exactly.

607
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: Had I stayed focused, Because see, the thing was when

608
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: it came time for me to leave Long Beach City College. Right,

609
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: I had big schools, like I had the Miami Hurricanes. Dog,

610
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I had the Virginia Tech. I had Virginia Tech, I

611
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: had Miami, I had Oregon. I might have had Michigan

612
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: or Michigan State. That was so long ago. I had

613
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: different people offered me scholarships, but they wanted me to

614
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: graduate in the spring, and I couldn't come out that

615
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: summer because I messed up so bad my first year.

616
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: Not too bad, but you gotta remember I was skipping classes. Man,

617
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: I was doing this. I just enough just to be

618
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: elisib bro right, and had I handled my business, there's

619
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: no telling what I would have went. Because I think

620
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: about it now, I'm like, man, the Mexican State Nigga

621
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: had ten or eleven sex. If I'd have did that

622
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: for the Hurricanes, if Virginia Tech or Michigan or something

623
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: like that, I ain't no telling, man, where I could

624
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: where the boy could have.

625
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: Win, you know, exactly, ain't no.

626
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: Telling where the boy could have win.

627
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: But then I think again, sometimes, man, stuff happened just

628
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to happen.

629
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's like I said, life is is you get

630
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: put in the position and then it's up to you

631
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: to follow the path.

632
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: You know.

633
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes it could get rocky, sometimes it could get you

634
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: know whatever. But that's that's your life plan. Man, You

635
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: feel me, And that's that's how it happened. Any other

636
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: way it could have happened would have been different. Who

637
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: knows where motherfucker would they ended up.

638
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, I think about that too.

639
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: You know, had I went to one of those other schools,

640
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: I may not have been with my wife, dog, I

641
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 2: may not have my kids. I got no, I wouldn't

642
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: trade them dudes, that girl and them two boys from

643
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: none in the world exactly.

644
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: So you know, you get put in positions and sometimes

645
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: you have to go. Like I said, I tell people

646
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: all the time, sometimes motherfuckers go through it easy and

647
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, you wake up and overnight success and you

648
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: be whatever whatever. But that fall be kind of hard

649
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 3: when you don't know how to go through adversity and

650
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: all of that. So sometimes we have to take that long,

651
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: hard road just to get to the end of the shit.

652
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: You feel me, Oh yeah for sure, man, because they,

653
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: like you said, man, stuff feels what it is. You

654
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: know what I wanted to ask you, right, we came

655
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: up in that time in the nineties, man, and it

656
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: was so much you feelure you had the move, you

657
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: had Scarface, right, you had all of these movies. Man,

658
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: they kind of like I ain't gonna say they glorified everything,

659
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: but they made all that stuff look.

660
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 4: Cool, man, exactly.

661
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: They made all that stuff look like it was the

662
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: thing to do because it was probably because it wasn't

663
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: too many options for us. Like, I'm not gonna lie, bro.

664
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: I never saw myself being a doctor. I never saw

665
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: myself being a lawyer. If I didn't play professional football,

666
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was gonna do for a

667
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: long time, bro.

668
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: Like I said, you get those dreams. You get those

669
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: dreams as.

670
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: A kid, you know, or whatever it is, you know,

671
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: feeling like you want to do whatever, and a lot

672
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: of it. You know, I'm gonna be a doctor, lawyer,

673
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a professional football player.

674
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: You know.

675
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: We have those aspirations as a kid. But like I said,

676
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: sometimes you get the path crossed. You know, you get

677
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: to the crossroads and you don't know which way you

678
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: supposed to go, so you you take the roads you think,

679
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: and it might get a little bumpy, you know, not

680
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: just saying you ain't gonna reach your destiny. But shit,

681
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: sometimes the roads are different from everybody else.

682
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: Man.

683
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: That's how I look at it. Shit, the way I

684
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: came mouth is, Hey, that's the turn I was supposed

685
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: to make.

686
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think about like you all, I don't know

687
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: if you see it or not. Dog you want them

688
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: dudes that defied the eys man, that became one of

689
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: the crazy this shit doog.

690
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's work and you don't even

691
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: look at it like that. Like I said, when I was,

692
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: you know, doing what I do, I just did it

693
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: because I felt, you know, this is the path I'm

694
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: supposed to be taken. Had I done anything differently, or

695
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: or wrapped about anything differently, or went through anything differently

696
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: as a youth growing up, you know, with my parents

697
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: and poverty and living in different sections, and you know,

698
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: and it's just what it is.

699
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: What it is, like sniff something wouldn't There's.

700
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: Been situations to where I could have been just like

701
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: any other nigga got shot killed, you know, been a

702
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: martyr for the neighborhood or whatever.

703
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: Because there was a lot of us who went through that.

704
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of niggas that you

705
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: probably felt who was gonna live forever?

706
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 4: And you wake up and they gone, you get me.

707
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: Just bro And and it's unfortunate because there are some

708
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: dudes that you wouldn't you know, you wouldn't think in

709
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: your life, you know what would har I'm a fly,

710
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Niggas was just cool as

711
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: a motherfucking fan. Niggas was from the hood and everything

712
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: was whatever it did. But you would never think niggas

713
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: would be in those positions and shit, And unfortunately that's

714
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: the life that that happened.

715
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: You know what, I call them dudes, man. I used

716
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: to have a name for them. I call them ghettle guys.

717
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: Man catch This seemed like they were just And.

718
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: The one thing, man, that that really made me start

719
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: thinking is I figured out, especially once I came out

720
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: here to La Man, I see every neighborhood, got to

721
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: get them, got every neighborhood, got that.

722
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: One cat you catch and it's usually just one. Right.

723
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: They just seem like he invincible, He got all the money,

724
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: he kind of hold the hood down. He liked by everybody.

725
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: But then once you see him gett knocked down, you say, man,

726
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: they knocked him down.

727
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: Anybody get knocked down.

728
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what the that's what the surprise about shit be,

729
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Like anybody could get taken down and you don't You

730
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: don't realize that till after you know, you see it,

731
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: because like you said, some dudes have the the mentality

732
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: of the or the moral compass of this motherfucker gonna

733
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: be around forever.

734
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Can't nobody fuck with the

735
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: homie and shit?

736
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: They just vicious and everybody know the nigga and you

737
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: know he's untouchable and the next thing you know, damn,

738
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: like what the fuck happened?

739
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: And it's all if you notice adust always they get

740
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: touched by somebody who wasn't even affected like that, you

741
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: wind up here anybody like what Like I remember one

742
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: homie man and that was back in the hood. Man

743
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: that was like mister big Man. He got smoked by

744
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: his broad thog.

745
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

746
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: You hear a lot of crazy stories of how you know,

747
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: not everybody got killed by dry buys or whatever. You

748
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: niggas died because of all kind of shit, you know,

749
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, girls setting them up, niggas getting robbed, you know,

750
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: bad drug deals and shit, you know, life was everything.

751
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: You got it all. You know what I'm saying. There

752
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: was nothing that was missed. Believe me, man, I know.

753
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 2: I got some cousins man who wasn't as fortunate as

754
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: I was, because I was very fortunate to be able

755
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: to have a little skate rock, right. I got cousins

756
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: man that wound up doing major time man for Heroin

757
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

758
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: Man, it was really out there getting to it right.

759
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: It was playing a dangerous game, you know, because you.

760
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: Know when you messing with the h man, you get

761
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: a lot of time man like that someone.

762
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: It's enhanced.

763
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Man. It ain't like you telling nothing else. Man, You're

764
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: getting attempted murder charts and all kind of stuff.

765
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, every everything bring different shit.

766
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: Man.

767
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: That's why I said you got to be careful when

768
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: you choose the lifestyle, because then you got to watch

769
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: out because you know, you never know who prays on

770
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: your downfall. You know, a lot of time, it's a

771
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: lot of niggas that's right up under you. Because I say,

772
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: you know, regardless of what you think you may be doing,

773
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: you never doing enough.

774
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Man. I'd yeah, for real.

775
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: There's probably a few dudes who you know, you you

776
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: sitting up with and you know you're flossing that money,

777
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: and you know you're doing interviews with money on the

778
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: table and pulling up with jewelry and fancy cars.

779
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's the smile in your face a situation.

780
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: It's a nigga gonna stand right in your face, puff

781
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: on your weed, drink on your drain, give you adapt,

782
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: pat you on the back, and then gonna go home

783
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: and be like, which way can we do? A motherfucker,

784
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, I don't got

785
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 3: what that nigga.

786
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Guys, I'm gonna tell you something. Man shot up to

787
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: the homeboy Man till I think you remember you remember

788
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: my homeboy that came out here, Man from Ohio. He

789
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: came out, He came up to the show and just

790
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: set up there. He didn't come on with nothing for shure,

791
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: He just he just got home. Man. A few years ago, Man,

792
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: and the catch rated on him. Man was a dude.

793
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: We grew up with bro the ship.

794
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's always somebody that they can probably get

795
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: to and sometimes unfortunately, as some motherfucker that's right next

796
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: to you, you get somebody.

797
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be accountable because I'm gonna tell

798
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: you what was so cold about. But we were so

799
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: cold about the Homie Dukees. Man was he was off

800
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: the game, bro Like he was done. He had kind

801
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: of like stacked his chips up. Dog had bought him

802
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: a couple of garage, just had some busin is this going,

803
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: had a couple of houses. You know, he had his

804
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: money straight right right, he was done, And he kept saying, man,

805
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: because it come a point to where when.

806
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: The fez is on you, they started talking to you. Right.

807
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: They had told him like, man, we almost had you,

808
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: we almost has you. So we had this one nigga

809
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: that we knew.

810
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: Man.

811
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: He was like he was hustling too, but he was

812
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: kind of like he wasn't on the same level as

813
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: the homie was, but he was.

814
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Doing this thing right. He had started calling him out

815
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: the blue, like, man, I need to get to him,

816
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: you know, because as much as people be talking, man,

817
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: it ain't that easy.

818
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: To come up on birds dog like that. No, it's

819
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: not unless you just know somebody. Dog, it's not easy.

820
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: You know, you could be making your money and never

821
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: touch a bird. You feel what I'm saying, right, So

822
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: he kept asking Homie the Homie said he had this

823
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: feeling like, man, I shouldn't be doing this.

824
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: I shouldn't mess with this nigga. This niggain't never did

825
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: nothing like that, you know what I mean? And why

826
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: is he ask me for this now? You know? So

827
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: the home, he was like, man, no, no, no, kept

828
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: telling him no, no, no, and he kept saying, Man,

829
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: he remember the day like it was yesterday. He said,

830
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: all right, Man, I got you. He went and made

831
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: that phone call when a guy that said he went

832
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: over there, right, he said, he even sat in the

833
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: car for about thirty forty minutes just kind of like

834
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: just kind of like like I should just turn back

835
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: around and go home. You feel what I'm saying, right,

836
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: And he as soon as he went up there, man

837
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: and knocked on the door.

838
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: Man, he said, it seemed like the police just came

839
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. He said, Man, I didn't even see

840
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: him coming. It was like they came up off the floor,

841
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: off the ground on my ass. And next you know,

842
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: he was like, man, I knew this was gonna happen.

843
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: A nigga that we grew up with. Though he because

844
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: he couldn't handle he got caught up in some other stuff.

845
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: And gave it Homi up.

846
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, some guy, that's how the scenario go. You know

847
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: you can too. You can sing that song for a

848
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, saying that shit.

849
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: That's the ultimate rad shit though, that's the ultimate you

850
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: gotta be.

851
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: One thing I always say at eight, I ain't never

852
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: I tell the people all the time, I ain't never

853
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: been no game banger, and I ain't gonna sit up

854
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: here and say I was need no need, no brown

855
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: enough shit like that. Right, But the one thing I

856
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: always did, man, I was always accountable for what I did.

857
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Right.

858
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go never telling nobody's dog to get out

859
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: of a situation. I guess I look at people like

860
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: that as people have a clear a character flawed Bro.

861
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: Whatever you do, Bro, you gotta stand on your own stuff. Man,

862
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta you know, you gotta eat your

863
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: own shit dog.

864
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean if you want to

865
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: put yourself in those positions, Like I said, we got we.

866
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: All got choices, bro, we all got choices to make it.

867
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: It's like if I make this choice and decide, man,

868
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: hey we gonna hop this gate ache.

869
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm making the choice just like Hugh he is right now.

870
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: If you get away dog and I get caught, I'm

871
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: filed for telling them what. Man, You know what, man

872
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: A actually got more than man he you know he

873
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: got he laid up over here. You know that's foul, bro.

874
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: And I saw that that did to the homie. Man,

875
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: I think that hurt him more than him just getting cut.

876
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: Like man the homy told on me.

877
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, favor, I said, especially if you.

878
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: If you consider the motherfucker a certain type of person

879
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: or a friend or a homie or whatever. But like

880
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: I said, you never know what you know. Trust is

881
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: a big word and it goes far with certain niggas.

882
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: And a nigga can tell.

883
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: You all day oh man, you know, blah blah blah,

884
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: and they can turn their back on you in the

885
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: last one. The second, you gotta understand what what being

886
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 3: true to a motherfucker he is. And last everybody can't

887
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: come along when it's time for you know what, it's

888
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: time for retribution of the paper and putting yourself in

889
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: a better position in life. There's gonna be some niggas

890
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: who's jealous of it, you know what I'm saying. So

891
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: you just have to watch who you fucking with and

892
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: that goes back to childhood days to motherfuckers. You need

893
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: to you know tomorrow. You know everybody ain't trustworthy.

894
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: Man, Friends, a few associates many.

895
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: That's something that my mama used to tell me every day, Friends,

896
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: a few associates, many, just because you know somebody I remer.

897
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: My mama tell me one day stop calling everybody your friend.

898
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: Exactly. I don't do the shit I need motherfuckers. And

899
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: I be like, no, that y'all's just an associate that

900
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: ain't my friend. I don't call niggas like that. You

901
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: feel me.

902
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you, man. And it's like I think.

903
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: In every neighborhood, man, you can count five brothers man

904
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: and got the same story and just being betrayed by

905
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: somebody that they thought they was just real cool with, right,

906
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: And you still got people that think they go jump

907
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: in this shit and get different results. Bro, I tell people.

908
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: I should tell my sons, man, I tell the homies.

909
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 2: I tell everybody, y'all. I say, man, the streets don't

910
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: have no love for nobody.

911
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: Bro. Oh definitely, hell no.

912
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: You taking a chance right then and there, you better

913
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: believe that they it don't.

914
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 4: So you just better watch it back and watching you associate.

915
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: With Yeah, that's that's that's for real. That's for real, man.

916
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: I think the biggest advice that you can give somebody man,

917
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: if they listen.

918
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people don't like to listen. Go

919
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: to school, man, Get you an education, man, if you

920
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: could learn you a trade or learn you a trig.

921
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: It's all that other stuff.

922
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Ain't hitting on nothing, dog, don't nobody make it out.

923
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's if you can get to a mother,

924
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: if you can get to you know, the generation and

925
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: and talk to them and convince them that you know,

926
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: there's a better situation out there. You know, it might

927
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 3: not be what you like, but it's always something better.

928
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: You feel me. Then taking those chances of those situations

929
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: to where you gotta trust somebody with your life or

930
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: your freedom, you feel me. And unfortunately, like I said,

931
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: there's just some niggas out there who just don't give

932
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 3: a fuck you get.

933
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: I think, man.

934
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: Like the question I asked at the beginning, Man, I

935
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: don't think me and you need to one to know.

936
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: Why does the bulls shit have such a lord of people?

937
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 3: Dog?

938
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 2: It's like it's a question, man, because you know people

939
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: who don't got told on. You got you know, people

940
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: who don't got murdered, You got people who all this

941
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: bad stuff I'm having to I can't think of nothing

942
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: good to come out of none.

943
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: In the hood, dog.

944
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a products. You know, we come out

945
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: of the neighborhood. So that's the positive aspect. There's a

946
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: lot of black you know, men and young men and

947
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: you know women, you know, the sisters. We come out

948
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: of the hood as products, and we can be faced

949
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: with adversity, gains and poverty and not having the other

950
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: men have. And that goes to show you. You know,

951
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: dudes like I made records and movies, and you know,

952
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: there's just sports people, the Venuses and the Serenas and

953
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: all the sports people. That's your positive aspect of coming

954
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: out of the hood because a lot of us start

955
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: from the situation of what you see niggas go through

956
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: gang banging and drug selling and whatever, and it's hard

957
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: to stray from that lifestyle. You know, I didn't have

958
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: the pops at home who was able to be like

959
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: you know Venus and Serena parents who you know, nigga.

960
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: You know, I unfortunately had to go through the route

961
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: of the hood and and you know, doing that that lifestyle,

962
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: not just saying that it was you know, to me,

963
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: it was everything. I didn't look at it as as

964
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: a flaw or a fucking It was just, you know,

965
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: a lot of us have obstacles we go through, and

966
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: for people who don't come through the game banging lifestyle,

967
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: your obstacle might be something else. You feel me coming

968
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: up as a teenager and trying to get to the

969
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: point of where you you know that you know you

970
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: you you you becoming a great man or a great product.

971
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: Of the neighborhood. You get me.

972
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: The guy used to sell dope, gang bang, claim the hood,

973
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: blah blah, is x y Z.

974
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 4: And then at the end of the day, my sons

975
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: ain't gonna come through that. You get me.

976
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: He's not gonna have to claim the neighborhood and sell

977
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: crack and you know, get shot at or shoot at

978
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: motherfuckers and go through that lifestyle to crawl through shit

979
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: to come out on the end knowing that you were

980
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: always a greater, you know individual, You was always a

981
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: good man or a young man.

982
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

983
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: And it was I'm glad I was fortunate enough that

984
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: I went through the shit that I could turn around,

985
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: and once I came out on the clean side, I

986
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: could turn around and.

987
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: Go, oh no, no, no.

988
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no you no. And I don't give

989
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: for you know, in whatever circumstance that might have caused.

990
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 3: But who gives a fuck because I'm already went through

991
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: the shit. So if I can, I'm gonna save you

992
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: from the shit you get me?

993
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, man, you got brothers man.

994
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: And the cold part about it is, Man, some of

995
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: the most brilliant people are no come from the hood,

996
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: dog like. I know some smart dudes eight where if

997
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: they would have put that on, if they would have

998
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: directed the energy like towards some positive man, I swear

999
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: they'd have been Fortune five hundred leaders and CEOs and

1000
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 2: you know, just big time people. Man. Because I knew

1001
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: some really brilliant dude. Man, I had a homeboy back

1002
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: of the crib.

1003
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: Man.

1004
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: That dude was so smart, man. And I really believe

1005
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: that this dude could have gotten in the harbor to

1006
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: yeah or something like that. Man, he's probably been a

1007
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: president of something because he always he always had a scheme,

1008
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: and his schemes would be working. Dog like this dude

1009
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: one day was telling me about Man. You know, if

1010
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: we did this, man, we could probably get a couple

1011
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. I was like, man, you're crazy. You

1012
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: want an attentiary.

1013
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: But there would be plans that were that would be

1014
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: really like like he had his well thought.

1015
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: All plans Man, definitely, And there's a whole bunch of

1016
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: people like you think about it now, like Man, you

1017
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: think about cats like Harry Yo Man, cats like Freeway Rick.

1018
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: When you serving on the level that them dudes is serving. Man,

1019
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: you can't be no dumb ass dude.

1020
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: And no, you got to be very articulate, and you

1021
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: gotta be smart, and you can't just be naive to

1022
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: regular ass life. You have to be very intelligent to

1023
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: be able to deal with certain different niggas, different motherfucking situations.

1024
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: You know that comes with being you know, intelligent and

1025
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: knowing that drama and situations are gonna get you to

1026
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 3: a certain status and being able to deal and communicate

1027
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: and be business minded is what's gonna have a gang

1028
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: of motherfuckers wanting to fuck with you. So you got

1029
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: to be very intelligent when you get when you reaching

1030
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: that type of status, you give me.

1031
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: I want to get here. You on the show Man,

1032
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: because that dude, think about it, that dude discovered, like

1033
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: gave Denzel watched in his first acting job, bro had

1034
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: limousine businesses, owned all them big ass buildings downtown is

1035
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: worth billions of dollars.

1036
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: Now, Dog, he had all that stuff first.

1037
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: Right, you know, he was just doing a lot of

1038
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: big stuff, man, and got cut for his legal his

1039
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: illicit activities.

1040
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: Dog got caught up. Shoot, help start different records, you know, exactly,

1041
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: just a cold dude.

1042
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: Man. I want to have him on the show Man

1043
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: to just really talk to him, man, because that man

1044
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: spent thirty three years playing on walls.

1045
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: Man, and and people like that have stories to tell

1046
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: of intelligence, you know, and stories of importance. You know,

1047
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: even though the lifestyle my nigga came through, those stories

1048
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: are valuable to help the youth understand, you know, what

1049
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: circumstances that he had to go through to put himself

1050
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: in that situation.

1051
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: And you know, you might have looked at it as

1052
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: you know.

1053
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: Positive, you know, like you said, being able to turn

1054
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 3: around and understand that, you know, trying to start legitimate

1055
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: situations is at the end of the day, is the

1056
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: quests you feel me to get out of the lifestyle.

1057
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: To try to change your lifestyle for the better is

1058
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: what it is for at the end of the day.

1059
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: You know what's cold o man? Shut out a snoop man.

1060
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: I guess some I heard the hereos the CEOO like

1061
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: the chief operating off to the new death Row records.

1062
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: Man.

1063
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 2: Hopefully, you know, hopefully that takes off of them, man,

1064
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: because it's good to see cats come home and get

1065
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: an opportunity to do something.

1066
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: Positive, definitely, you know, And we got a lot of them.

1067
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: We got a lot of you know, uh uh individuals,

1068
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, our brothers, like you said, who are very

1069
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: intelligent and smart to begin with. That's why they were

1070
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: able to have these empires and these enterprises and you know,

1071
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: like my boy Kyle Lee, you know what I'm saying,

1072
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: my boy Virgil, you know, be able to come home

1073
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: and legitimize the situation and turn it into something legit,

1074
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: and you know, to be able to have the opportunity

1075
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: as the other motherfuckers, do you get me?

1076
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: They try to watch Versus, right, they tried to really

1077
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: watch Versus. Virgion was the first one, you know, we

1078
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: had them on the show before Version was the first

1079
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: one really to have most stories multiple locations, definitely.

1080
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: You know, like I said, his story is important too

1081
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: because of what he had to go through and what

1082
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: you know, what's what's very popularized today. You got all

1083
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: kinds of entertainers and sports motherfuckers getting into it. They've

1084
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 3: got dispensaries now exactly.

1085
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: They got dispensary because he was the When you think

1086
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: about it, he was the cookies before it was the

1087
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: cookies exactly. And I think that it's important. And then

1088
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: the stories I want to start telling.

1089
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: Man, so over these next like for the rest of

1090
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: this year, Man, I really want to work on man

1091
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: getting cats.

1092
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Man, it's doing something positive. Now.

1093
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: Man, I'm so sick of hearing about people glorifying dudes

1094
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: who are not doing nothing just as they've been in

1095
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 2: jail in a rum day life. Like, how's that glorifying something?

1096
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: Well, because that's the generation in the code of like

1097
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: you said, even back in my days, like I said,

1098
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: somehow it was the right of passage to go to

1099
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: prison and then to come back to the neighborhood. You

1100
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: felt vindicated, You felt you know, you had really put

1101
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: your stamp on you know what you saw, what which

1102
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: was was true life to you and that was the

1103
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: neighborhood and gang banging and representing the block. So it's

1104
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 3: just it's it's it's like that today with the youth,

1105
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: they gonna glorify. Oh man, my nigga put in work,

1106
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: my nigga. Woot the wo woot.

1107
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: He won't. But you know, at the end of the day,

1108
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 4: when you behind the bars and your life is on standstill,

1109
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: you know it's not you know, you're forgotten about at

1110
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 4: the end of the day. So let's just see how

1111
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: many of you know his true people you know, stick

1112
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 4: with and ride with him and uh, you know, endure

1113
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: some of the fucked up shit that they have to

1114
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 4: go through on this journey.

1115
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1116
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: Man, when you start thinking about man, start thinking about it.

1117
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine doing no time like that. Thirty

1118
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: three years a long time, bro, Hell two years a

1119
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: long time to me. You know, I don't want to

1120
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: spend a second of my freedom being gone, exactly. I

1121
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: ain't trying to spend a second of it, man, So

1122
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: I want to I want you to really start thinking

1123
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: over the next few weeks, man, cats, I want to

1124
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: try to reach out to here of yo, I wouldn't

1125
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: mind going to go sit down with Virgil again. And

1126
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 2: what I want to talk to Virgils about this time

1127
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: is like, really because Virgil is expert on how to

1128
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: get into the game.

1129
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: You feel what I mean. It's a lot of cats

1130
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: that want to get into the dispencery game but don't

1131
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: know quite how.

1132
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: For sure, let's get it cracking.

1133
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you when the last time you talked to him?

1134
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 4: I talked to Virgil about a week and a half ago.

1135
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1136
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: Is he still because the last time we talked he

1137
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: has some stuff going on in Africa?

1138
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just he'd be moving. You know, that's how

1139
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: niggas do. They trying to set up ship worldwide and

1140
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: everything else. But he always available. I just got a calling. Yeah,

1141
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: that would be the.

1142
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: Coming you coming from the community eight.

1143
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 2: It seemed like a rap is still the number one

1144
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: away that you know, young people in the neighborhood try

1145
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: to use as a means to escape. What would you

1146
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: tell the young dude today trying to come up the

1147
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: neighborhood by hip hop?

1148
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you because everybody follows a different path today.

1149
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: You know, back in my days, we knew what it was,

1150
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: but today it's all kind of shit.

1151
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: So you know, what you said. It's easier today, are harder.

1152
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: What to make a record, it's it's a record.

1153
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Man, But to really just do something that's impactful, because

1154
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: you know, that's the one thing I know this man,

1155
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: just being a dude that don't been the executive in

1156
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: this stuff for many years.

1157
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Year.

1158
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: It's easier to make records and stuff like that. Dog,

1159
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: and it's easy to do a lot of stuff, man,

1160
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: but is it really easier to make an impact. It's

1161
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: because it's so crowded right now.

1162
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: Shit, you wouldn't know better to me, my nigga.

1163
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: That's why I stay in my lane and whatever it is,

1164
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: it isn't don't try to check.

1165
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: You would have to answer that one yourself. You the executive.

1166
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: You have to give advice to that, you know, because

1167
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: you want to hear my advice though, because I'm I

1168
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: don't like to see some negative first alone.

1169
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: And you let a nigga do what he gotta do

1170
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 3: and let him run his course. You feel me, That's

1171
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: just what it is. Yeah, you know, because that's just

1172
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: telling everybody.

1173
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: Whether it's rapping, doing this podcast stuff. I'm gonna tell

1174
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: you what I do know what I can tell people.

1175
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: The money is not there in podcasting like it once was,

1176
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: and it's not gonna be for a long time. The

1177
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: ones that's getting money now probably go continue to give money.

1178
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: But as far as you having something new, unless you

1179
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: really make the investment and putting there and do it

1180
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: the right way, it's probably not gonna work out for you.

1181
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: Is too many people doing this stuff right now, exactly,

1182
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: and it's like it's only so much bandwidth thog. It's like,

1183
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: you know what this remind me of. You remember when

1184
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: people first started hustling. Everything was cool, but then after

1185
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: a while the block was just crowded. It was the

1186
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: same people trying to rush the same car.

1187
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: That's why we that's why I diiggas had to start

1188
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: making choices of what they was gonna do. You know,

1189
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: you gotta start making choices. I need to do something else.

1190
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: I need to start making records. I need to go

1191
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: get a job. You know everything you know, I don't

1192
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: know what.

1193
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's so hard for people?

1194
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: Because you know, you said go get a job. A

1195
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: lot of people are like going to go get a job.

1196
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: It's something bad or.

1197
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: Something's it's frowned upon because you know, especially if you're

1198
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 3: trying to impress the motherfuck And if you're on the

1199
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: ego of trying to impress and get you a bitch

1200
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: or whatever like that. You know, certain certain females, you know,

1201
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: require certain shit nowadays, and they tell you you get me.

1202
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get this fake ted easy's fake ass. I'm

1203
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: gonna put this hair in my ship. I'm gonna glorify

1204
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: myself up. Now you gotta make you gotta be having

1205
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: millions of dollars to fuck with this. This costs right here,

1206
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: and and they mean it costs. It's gonna cost you

1207
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: some trinkets, some trips, and some motherfucking some trinkets, trips,

1208
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: and some motherfucking takes this ship.

1209
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 4: You know what you want?

1210
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: She want to eat, she want to flow some little ship.

1211
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: You need her a nice person, some diamonds and ship.

1212
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: And if you can't compete with that, then you you

1213
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: you frowned upon, which is, you know, unfortunate for some

1214
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 3: you know, young gentleman. But that's what the situation is.

1215
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: That's one of you man. That's well.

1216
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,000
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1220
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