Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you and Center. We've got a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about tonight. But everyone seems to really be talking about
Speaker 1: these drones in New Jersey as we're doing the show.
Speaker 1: I'm in New York City. Everywhere I went today people
Speaker 1: were talking about these drones. People were showing me videos
Speaker 1: on their phone when I was at Fox. They're concerned
Speaker 1: about it. And there's a bigger issue, and that's lack
Speaker 1: of people having trust in our government right now.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. People are talking about the drones
Speaker 2: that are being seen up and down the East Coast.
Speaker 2: We're going to break that down, tell you what we
Speaker 2: know about that, and tell you what it says about
Speaker 2: the state of trust in government and the media right now. Today,
Speaker 2: we also have a story that just broke of gang
Speaker 2: members arrested in Aurora, Colorado. You know, the media told
Speaker 2: us this was not a problem, that were not Venezuelan
Speaker 2: gang members there. Well it turns out they are. They
Speaker 2: engage in a home invasion. We're going to break that
Speaker 2: down as well. And finally, a new survey that that
Speaker 2: really is going to shock you. It's a survey of
Speaker 2: young people that found a very significant percentage of young
Speaker 2: people find the murder of the healthcare CEO acceptable. It
Speaker 2: is truly stunning the consequence of the ideological brainstorming of
Speaker 2: our young people. We're going to lay those numbers out
Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 1: talking center about these drones, and like there's a lot
Speaker 1: people are saying, is it a UFO, is it? Is
Speaker 1: it foreign governments spying on us? There's a bigger conversation
Speaker 1: that I think we need to have, and that is
Speaker 1: I am genuinely worried now that there are so many
Speaker 1: Americans that have no trust in the US government. They
Speaker 1: have no trust in our in our agencies like the
Speaker 1: FBI or the CIA or the Department of Homeland Security
Speaker 1: because they've been lied to, whether it's on COVID or
Speaker 1: whether it's on us having a secure border like my
Speaker 1: orcs said over and over again, or a lying to
Speaker 1: us about saying tarists are not coming across the southern
Speaker 1: border when there's people on the Terrace watch list. And
Speaker 1: so now with this drone thing, there's a genuine concern
Speaker 1: and paranoia that when the government comes out and says, hey,
Speaker 1: everything's okay, everybody says, why would I believe you?
Speaker 2: Look, that's a fair question, and I'm going to start
Speaker 2: with I've been in the US Senate twelve years. I
Speaker 2: have the top level classified clearance, I have classified briefings regularly,
Speaker 2: and I'm here to tell you I have no friggin
Speaker 2: idea what's up in the sky. It actually as frustrating
Speaker 2: as all get out. So I'm going to walk you
Speaker 2: through some of the data points. I'm going to walk
Speaker 2: you through what I've been told and where the American
Speaker 2: people are. First of all, we're getting reports all up
Speaker 2: and down the Eastern Seaboard about people seeing strange things
Speaker 2: in the sky. For example, Governor Larry Hogan, former governor Maryland,
Speaker 2: he tweeted out the following quote. Last night, beginning at
Speaker 2: around nine to forty five pm, I personally witnessed and
Speaker 2: videoed what appeared to be dozens of large drones in
Speaker 2: the sky above my residence in Davidsonville, Maryland, five miles
Speaker 2: from our nation's capital. I observe the activity for approximately
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Like many of observed these drones, I
Speaker 2: do not know if the increasing activity over our skies
Speaker 2: is a threat to public safety or national security, but
Speaker 2: the public is growing increasingly concerned and frustrated with a
Speaker 2: complete lack of transparency and the dismissive attitude of the
Speaker 2: federal government. The government has the ability to track these
Speaker 2: from their point of origin, but has mounted a negligent
Speaker 2: response people are rightfully clamoring for answers, but aren't getting any.
Speaker 2: We are being told that neither of the White House,
Speaker 2: the military, the FBI, or Homeland Security have any idea
Speaker 2: what they are, where they're coming from, or who has
Speaker 2: launched or is controlling them, and that they pose no threat.
Speaker 2: That response is entirely unacceptable. I join with the growing
Speaker 2: bipartisan chorus of leaders demanding that the federal government immediately
Speaker 2: address this issue. The American people deserve answers and action now.
Speaker 2: So that's one data point. Look, Larry Hogan is a
Speaker 2: serious and credible observer. He's reporting what he's seeing.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Here's another another tweet. This is from Congressman Tom Keene
Speaker 2: in New Jersey. Quote, We here in New Jersey are
Speaker 2: at our wits end with the complete absence of answers
Speaker 2: on drone activity over our neighborhoods. The federal government should
Speaker 2: either explain if these are our government's assets in practice,
Speaker 2: or if these are truly unknown flights, responsibly remove one
Speaker 2: from the sky for examination. Either option would lead us
Speaker 2: to an answer, and the public is rightfully demanding closure here.
Speaker 2: Nothing about what is occurring is acceptable. Governor Murphy and
Speaker 2: President Biden need to step up right now. So that's
Speaker 2: two data points. Now, I got to say. I asked
Speaker 2: my staff, the incoming chair of the Senate Commerce Committee.
Speaker 2: The Senate Commerce Committee, among other things, has jurisdiction or
Speaker 2: the FAA. I asked my team find out from the
Speaker 2: FAA what the hell these are. Staff had a briefing
Speaker 2: with the FAA and the FBI and other agencies, and
Speaker 2: what we were told is there's no evidence that they're drones.
Speaker 2: But they have been able to verify that what people
Speaker 2: see are man deviation because there are flight plans and
Speaker 2: I've heard different people say one staffer is speculated. Quote
Speaker 2: the ones in New Jersey or airplanes, the ones that
Speaker 2: Hogan saw are stars. The reason they all look small
Speaker 2: is because is not because they're drones, but because they're
Speaker 2: far away. Now, I don't have any freaking clue. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the truth is or what the falsity is.
Speaker 2: And listen, at the end of the day in the Senate,
Speaker 2: I don't have control of satellites. I don't have the
Speaker 2: information to assess what is accurate or not. But why
Speaker 2: is the federal government not directly answering this. You're right,
Speaker 2: everybody is asking this and their whole variety of theories.
Speaker 2: Some people are saying, you know what, it's UFOs, it's
Speaker 2: little green men in the sky above New Jersey. Now,
Speaker 2: as much as I'd love to make a headline by
Speaker 2: saying I can guarantee you, I can prove to you
Speaker 2: right now it is space aliens above New Jersey, I
Speaker 2: do not, in fact have that information. Now I can't
Speaker 2: tell you it's not space aliens above New Jersey. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But the question you asked at the outset, Ben,
Speaker 2: I think is really very interesting, the number of Americans
Speaker 2: who don't believe a damn thing they're being told. Why,
Speaker 2: Because the government, especially with the Biden administration, has demonstrated
Speaker 2: they're willing to lie over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: You remember the Chinese spy balloon. Government didn't let anyone
Speaker 2: know about.
Speaker 1: That, shut it down to it. Yeah, and they didn't
Speaker 1: shoot it down until after it had completed what you
Speaker 1: would describe as a mission.
Speaker 2: And remember look, the first government spy balloon we knew about.
Speaker 2: People up in Montana spotted it and said, hey, what
Speaker 2: the hell is that thing in the sky. And then
Speaker 2: the Biden administration reluctantly said, oh, yeah, this is spy
Speaker 2: balloons from China. And by the way, we've had a
Speaker 2: bunch of them before we knew about them, we didn't
Speaker 2: do anything about them. We let them fly over America.
Speaker 2: We let them fly over a military basis, We let
Speaker 2: them spy on America, and we didn't tell you. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't until some citizens spotted it that we were caught.
Speaker 2: And then even after that, even after it was public,
Speaker 2: this is a Chinese spy balloon. It is being maneuvered
Speaker 2: to fly directly over a military bases to engage in surveillance.
Speaker 2: The Biden administration decided to let that Chinese spy balloon
Speaker 2: fly over the entire continental United States, from Alaska all
Speaker 2: the way across the country, and they finally shot it
Speaker 2: down over the Atlantic Ocean. So all of us experience
Speaker 2: that when strange things were flying in the sky and
Speaker 2: the Biden administration knew what they were, they refuse to
Speaker 2: tell us. So so I don't think people are being
Speaker 2: unreasonable when you're getting lots of reports of people looking
Speaker 2: up seeing strange things in the sky, figuring, you know what,
Speaker 2: the Biden administration knows what these are, and they're not
Speaker 2: telling us. I've heard people speculate it's the military, it's experiments.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'm frustrated that when I ask,
Speaker 2: I don't get an answer. I will say this, and
Speaker 2: I do think this is a responsible thing to say.
Speaker 2: Ordinary citizens should not shoot them down if they are
Speaker 2: in fact manned aircraft. We don't want someone in a
Speaker 2: helicap copter getting shot down. So don't shoot at the
Speaker 2: thing flying above you if you see something flying above you,
Speaker 2: because you don't want to. You don't want to kill someone.
Speaker 2: You don't want to knock it down and have it
Speaker 2: crashed down and injure or kill your neighbor. But I
Speaker 2: will say that there is a real need for for trendency.
Speaker 2: And it says an enormous amount that the level of
Speaker 2: distrust is so deep. And it's because we've seen this
Speaker 2: administration lie to the American people over and over and
Speaker 2: over again and expect them to believe the lies.
Speaker 1: Here's another question, and you mentioned classified briefing, So if
Speaker 1: you'll explain kind of how this works, because there was
Speaker 1: a briefing to the media today and the briefing was,
Speaker 1: or the statement that came out from the US government.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a KUMBAII universal statement from
Speaker 1: a lot of agencies under the Biden administration that this
Speaker 1: is not a threat from some adversary around the world.
Speaker 1: Everybody calmed down, and then there were some House members
Speaker 1: that got it classified briefing, And immediately the question was
Speaker 1: asked by the media, is, well, if there's no threat here,
Speaker 1: why was it a classified briefing? If you're saying that
Speaker 1: this isn't US and it's not an adversary, So it
Speaker 1: is that a bunch to do about nothing? Or explain
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that and and and why it would
Speaker 1: have been done in a classified setting.
Speaker 2: Possibly, Well, listen, and we've talked about this on on
Speaker 2: Verdict previously. Some time ago. Uh, there was a classified
Speaker 2: briefing on potential UFO sightings and I was really interested.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I want to know this. I went
Speaker 2: down and I read the folder. I got to tell you, Ben,
Speaker 2: it was the most underwhelming thing I've ever seen, Like, like,
Speaker 2: if I wanted to reveal a classified secret about it,
Speaker 2: I couldn't because the whole thing said some people saw
Speaker 2: some stuff, they didn't know what it was. Like that's it,
Speaker 2: Like there's a bunch of pages of I don't know.
Speaker 2: Some people said, so look, look, look up in the sky.
Speaker 2: It's it's a bird, it's a it's a plane, it's
Speaker 2: a dog. That, by the way, for people old enough
Speaker 2: to remember, is the opening of Underdog. Uh which which
Speaker 2: were you old enough to watch Underdog as a kid?
Speaker 3: Ben?
Speaker 1: I was not.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I actually think this is the band.
Speaker 1: List, this is the you're showing glaring right now.
Speaker 2: So they're looking up in the sky. They go, it's
Speaker 2: a bird, it's a plane. It's a frog. A frog,
Speaker 2: not bird, nor plane, nor even frog. Just little old
Speaker 2: me Underdog. And it was the opening of a dog
Speaker 2: that would fly through the air like Superman. That's what
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, the cartoon I watch.
Speaker 2: But to be honest, the classified briefing did not tell
Speaker 2: you anything more than the opening cartoon from Underdog. So
Speaker 2: why do they do classified briefings that don't say anything.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Often the administration does it. I think
Speaker 2: it is in part a sense that they don't owe
Speaker 2: the American public leveling with them. I see all the time.
Speaker 2: And this is something actually both Republican and Democrat administrations do,
Speaker 2: but the Biden administration is particularly bad about it. They'll
Speaker 2: classify a briefing just because they don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about a topic, or because they think it's politically embarrassing,
Speaker 2: not because looks are proper, properly classified. If it's so happened,
Speaker 2: uh that it was a spy satellite from from the
Speaker 2: American government, you would want to classify that. We don't.
Speaker 2: We're not in the business of telling people about our
Speaker 2: spy satellites. Since I have I have not attended a
Speaker 2: classified briefing on the drones. I have no idea if
Speaker 2: it's that or not. People have speculated that, but I
Speaker 2: have no information one way or the other. What I
Speaker 2: would just say is, at this point, so many people
Speaker 2: have reported seeing this, including credible serious people, that I
Speaker 2: think the federal government owes the American people just some
Speaker 2: level of leveling. Hey, here's what you're seeing, here's what's
Speaker 2: going on. You know, it's it's a flight test for this,
Speaker 2: it's that, or what what whatever it is. And and
Speaker 2: the fact that that that the people are basically told
Speaker 2: what you're worried about doesn't count. I mean, listen, you
Speaker 2: said you're you're in New York City right now. You
Speaker 2: said people were talking about all day long that that's
Speaker 2: everywhere quest to me. Yeah, the government ought to frigid
Speaker 2: answer it, and they won't tell members of the Senate.
Speaker 2: So if they won't tell me that, they don't view
Speaker 2: it that they owe anything to Congress, they don't view
Speaker 2: it that they owe anything to the American people. And
Speaker 2: no wonder so many Americans fundamentally distrust our government when
Speaker 2: you don't have the government leveling with you and just
Speaker 2: telling you the basic facts, and by the way, just
Speaker 2: saying it's nothing to worry about, Well, that's not comforting.
Speaker 2: They said the same thing with the Chinese spy balloon,
Speaker 2: which they never would have told us about if it
Speaker 2: were not for people who spotted it with telescopes and binoculars.
Speaker 2: And to be clear, by the way, they finally admitted
Speaker 2: there had been multiple Chinese sky balloons before that. They
Speaker 2: never told Congress that. They never told me that, not
Speaker 2: once until the public spotted it. And so when you
Speaker 2: have a long pattern of lack of candor with the
Speaker 2: American people, it's unsurprising the American people are deeply distrustful.
Speaker 2: And that's that's not a healthy thing.
Speaker 1: No, And let's talk about two other aspects. Of this
Speaker 1: and it deals with national security. You and I several
Speaker 1: months ago talked about the number of drone incursions that
Speaker 1: were happening at the southern border and how the cartels
Speaker 1: down there are using an incredible number of drones to
Speaker 1: basically spy on us, whether.
Speaker 2: It's Hens of South Servins.
Speaker 1: Right, there's like thirty thousand incursions in this certain time
Speaker 1: period that we talked about, my memory is correct. And
Speaker 1: yet they're using them for intelligence to see where we're
Speaker 1: moving and how we're trying to protect our border, to
Speaker 1: human smuggle, sex trafficking, fetnyl drugs, all of it. Put
Speaker 1: it all together, and that's it. Then we have a
Speaker 1: second now aspect of drones, and it's what we're witnessing
Speaker 1: in the Middle East. We are seeing drones that are
Speaker 1: being used to attack in the Middle East. We've seen
Speaker 1: drones that have been used in the war between Russia
Speaker 1: and Ukraine at a level that I think five ten
Speaker 1: years ago no one could have imagined. And then we
Speaker 1: had a drone expert on TV who was asked a
Speaker 1: couple of different things, one about shooting down drones, but
Speaker 1: two does our government have what it takes to take
Speaker 1: out hardened drones, drones that may actually be used by adversaries,
Speaker 1: whether it's terrorists or other countries. And Scott Jenning absters
Speaker 1: him the question about hey, like, if you've got a
Speaker 1: drone over your house, can you shoot this thing down?
Speaker 1: And here's what he had to say. It's very interesting
Speaker 1: some of these constraptions by my house.
Speaker 3: But I am not a counter I wrote this down
Speaker 3: a counter drone expert. You got the coodest job I
Speaker 3: have ever known about it.
Speaker 5: I have a question, can you shoot these things down?
Speaker 6: So let me answer that a man who got a gun.
Speaker 5: No, but go ahead, sorrd Yeah. Legally no, they're treated
Speaker 5: the same a shooting down aircraft which would carry even
Speaker 5: a smaller and even your own.
Speaker 6: Interesting and shoot your own I'm just saying it wasn't
Speaker 6: the law hypothetically speaking, would it be dangerous to shoot?
Speaker 5: Still a terrible idea for a normal civilian to attempt
Speaker 5: to shoot.
Speaker 6: Then show us these these two that are closest to you,
Speaker 6: because these two have been through some things.
Speaker 5: What happened to these drones? So these drones were taken
Speaker 5: out of the sky. The way that we test that
Speaker 5: is in special facilities. We're a kind of drone company.
Speaker 5: We build auto amiing firearms to actually take them down
Speaker 5: with bullets.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: The common method for drones to be taken out of
Speaker 5: the sky via law enforcement in agencies is with electromagnetic
Speaker 5: weapons like jammers and spoofers and microwaves. But they don't
Speaker 5: work against drones that are hardened. And that I think
Speaker 5: is a really scary undertone to this whole drone mystery
Speaker 5: is that we lack the kinetic responses necessary with our
Speaker 5: law enforcement in federal agencies. So the DD does maintain
Speaker 5: that we said.
Speaker 3: Drones that are hardened, meaning that they are made to
Speaker 3: not be taken out.
Speaker 1: Of the story.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's a very simple thing to do, like microwaves,
Speaker 5: to harden a drone for microwaves, find it is a
Speaker 5: copper tation.
Speaker 4: Should be a drone that size?
Speaker 6: Could you put a weapon on.
Speaker 5: That you could put you could carry a couple of
Speaker 5: pounds a weapon being explosives? Absolutely wow, So I mean
Speaker 5: that's not big at all.
Speaker 6: Could you hear it coming?
Speaker 3: Is it lowed?
Speaker 5: They're pretty loud, but you don't know where it's coming from.
Speaker 5: It's actually a pretty terrifying experience.
Speaker 4: See that's why it's all these people I mean are.
Speaker 5: Hearing I mean well over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I mean if you just stop there. What my big
Speaker 1: concern is now center is we are seeing drones use
Speaker 1: them Middle Least, we are seeing terrorists use them. We're
Speaker 1: seeing the cartels use them. We're seeing all these up.
Speaker 1: We don't have any answers. And then this drone expert
Speaker 1: is saying, quote, we lack the kinetic response from law
Speaker 1: enforcement to combat hardened drones that could be used against
Speaker 1: anyone anywhere in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I've been down on the southern border where
Speaker 2: border patrol on boats on the Rio Grande River that
Speaker 2: they will use guns to take down drones from the cartels.
Speaker 2: But an ordinary citizen can't do that. And the problem
Speaker 2: is you maybe can do that with one or two,
Speaker 2: but you can't do that with a thousand. You can't
Speaker 2: do that with five thousand, or ten thousand, or twenty
Speaker 2: thousand or thirty thousand. And I will say that that's
Speaker 2: one of the dangers of the directions warfare is going,
Speaker 2: is that we're seeing more and more or synchronized drones
Speaker 2: being used in warfare, drones being used for surveillance, and
Speaker 2: the danger of hardened or weaponized drones is real and significant.
Speaker 2: Then let me be clear. I want to reiterate, I
Speaker 2: have no evidence that these are drones that are over
Speaker 2: the Eastern seaboard. But the Biden administration is doing nothing
Speaker 2: to assuage people's fears. They're not leveling with the American people.
Speaker 2: They're telling them just hey, don't worry about it, nothing
Speaker 2: to see here, and based on their past pattern of lying,
Speaker 2: that does not inspire confidence.
Speaker 1: Final question on this, John Kirby came out and said
Speaker 1: this about the drones, trying to, I guess, make people
Speaker 1: feel better. It didn't make me feel better, but he
Speaker 1: said fellow authorities are now investigating one hundred tips on
Speaker 1: drone activity. Here's what the White House National Security Communications
Speaker 1: Advisor said.
Speaker 4: Well, I would repeat what we've said yesterday and last
Speaker 4: night in a multiple agency statement that we have taken
Speaker 4: a serious look at this. We have gone through five
Speaker 4: thousand some odd sightings, we have added detection capabilities to
Speaker 4: the region, We've even sent up visual observers, and everything
Speaker 4: we're seeing to date, our assessment tells us that these
Speaker 4: are commercial drones, hobbyist drones, or law enforcement drones, all
Speaker 4: operating legally and.
Speaker 1: Lawfully, nothing to worry about. Everything's fine. I just think
Speaker 1: this goes back to that issue we talked about the
Speaker 1: very beginning to bring it back full circle. Any why
Speaker 1: would anybody believe him even if he is saying spot
Speaker 1: on it's true when there's so many unanswered questions.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's completely different from what the
Speaker 2: FA and the FBI briefed my staff where they said
Speaker 2: they were manned aircraft. So now John Kirby is standing
Speaker 2: up saying their drones, which is it? Like what is
Speaker 2: When you have multiple and conflicting answers, people naturally distrust them,
Speaker 2: and it's why you get lots and lots of conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2: But part of the problem with conspiracy theories is everything
Speaker 2: we're told is a conspiracy. Six months later, proove's true.
Speaker 1: Speaking of conspiracy theories, at six months ago, they said
Speaker 1: we're not real, or five months or four months or
Speaker 1: three months, even two months ago, and then it becomes real.
Speaker 1: That brings me to the second big topic that we
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and let's go back to Colorado. Let's go
Speaker 1: back to what the White House and the media said.
Speaker 1: They said that it was not happening, that there were
Speaker 1: not gangs that had been taking over apartment complexes and
Speaker 1: running these criminal gangs out of them in Aurora, Colorado.
Speaker 1: They said this was a lie, that it wasn't true.
Speaker 1: Then they said, well, it's only happening in a couple
Speaker 1: of them, not that many, so it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: They changed their story again, and now we were right
Speaker 1: all along a legal alien invasion in Colorado. Number one
Speaker 1: is real and number two, you have fourteen detained in Aurora,
Speaker 1: Colorado in a horrific home invasion that are likely illegal
Speaker 1: gang members. Police are now staying saying when individuals were
Speaker 1: not only taken, but they were tortured. Well.
Speaker 2: Martha Radits at ABC dismissed this, said, oh, it's only
Speaker 2: a handful of apartment complexes, which with the classic contempt
Speaker 2: of the elite left looking down on little people that
Speaker 2: live in apartment buildings who are being terrorized. But this
Speaker 2: story broke this week, the headline from Fox News fourteen
Speaker 2: detained in armed Aurora, Colorado home invasion are likely illegal
Speaker 2: gang members. Home invasion occurred at the edge at Lowry apartments,
Speaker 2: where viral video showed gang members earlier this year. So
Speaker 2: the media tell told us don't believe your lying eyes.
Speaker 2: Oddly enough, the same thing they're saying about the drone
Speaker 2: sightings of the sky. But here's what Fox reported.
Speaker 3: Quote.
Speaker 2: Police at Aurora, Colorado say the overnight armed home invasion
Speaker 2: at a local apartment complex that resulted in fourteen suspects
Speaker 2: being detained was quote, without question, a gang incident. Just
Speaker 2: before two thirty am on Tuesday, police were called to
Speaker 2: the edge of Lowery apartments for a reported armed home
Speaker 2: invasion in which the victims were kidnapped and assaulted, the
Speaker 2: Aurora Police said. Aurora Police Department Chief Todd Chamberlain said
Speaker 2: during the Tuesday news conference that thirteen to fifteen people,
Speaker 2: mostly males with some females, entered an apartment where two
Speaker 2: people were inside. Police say the suspects took the migrant
Speaker 2: victims to another apartment at the same location, where the
Speaker 2: victims were threatened and bound. One of the victims, a man,
Speaker 2: sustained a stab wound but is expected to survive. Police
Speaker 2: said both of the victims are still at the hospital
Speaker 2: for treatment for their injuries. At some point, authority said,
Speaker 2: the suspects released the victims, who the called nine one
Speaker 2: one quote they were pistol whipped, they were beat they
Speaker 2: were mistreated. Chamberlain said, so does that fall in the
Speaker 2: category of torture for me? Yeah, it does. That's the
Speaker 2: chief of police in Aurora, Colorado. And and he went
Speaker 2: on to say, quote, this is without question a gang incident.
Speaker 2: I don't know which gang they're affiliated with yet. Chamberlain
Speaker 2: said that quote, there is a high assumption that they
Speaker 2: may be affiliated with the TDA, the trender Aragua gang,
Speaker 2: but he stopped short of declaring which gang in particular
Speaker 2: was involved because he could not be certain. At this time,
Speaker 2: we were told this wasn't true, and yet it is true.
Speaker 1: Well, and let's go back to Martha Raddick because this
Speaker 1: was when she was getting into it on the with JD.
Speaker 1: Vance on this issue. And I want you to hear
Speaker 1: what she had to say. And again, this is goes
Speaker 1: back to the lies when people don't trust the media
Speaker 1: or the government when they lie.
Speaker 6: To us, stop you. The incidents were limited to a
Speaker 6: handful of apartment CONFLX apartment complexes, and the mayor said,
Speaker 6: our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns a
Speaker 6: handful of problems.
Speaker 3: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
Speaker 3: apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs,
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's
Speaker 3: open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on,
Speaker 3: and they have every right to be.
Speaker 1: By the way, if it's your apartment complex, I think
Speaker 1: it is a big deal when you have it being
Speaker 1: taken over by the government.
Speaker 2: Stop lives in opulence. She's a multi millionaire. It's not
Speaker 2: her problem. Her home wasn't taken over by Venezuelan gang,
Speaker 2: so why should she possibly be concerned? And listen that
Speaker 2: liberal contempt for ordinary Americans is a big part of
Speaker 2: the reason we saw the overwhelming election results we did
Speaker 2: in November.
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Speaker 1: I want to get to this other issue, and that
Speaker 1: is uh, there's a study that has come out. It's
Speaker 1: really shocking, and it is one where I guess you
Speaker 1: call it a poll that young people in this country
Speaker 1: actually are understanding of the assassin in New York City
Speaker 1: who killed the healthcare CEO, saying it's almost justifiable that
Speaker 1: this is happening to people that work in industries they
Speaker 1: don't like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really stunning. So Emerson College put out
Speaker 2: a poll, uh and they polled people's attitudes towards the
Speaker 2: Healthcare CEO assassination. Here's what they concluded. Quote, a majority
Speaker 2: of voters, sixty eight percent think the actions of the
Speaker 2: killer of the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, are unacceptable.
Speaker 2: So I want you to pause and think about that.
Speaker 2: Only sixty eight percent of Americans think it is unacceptable
Speaker 2: to murder someone in cold blood. Seventeen percent find the
Speaker 2: actions acceptable murdering someone in cold blood, mind you, while
Speaker 2: sixteen percent are unsure. Now, if you break it down
Speaker 2: a little more, here's what Emerson College continues. Quote, While
Speaker 2: sixty eight percent of voters overall reject the killer's actions,
Speaker 2: younger voters and Democrats are more split. Forty one percent
Speaker 2: of voters aged eighteen to twenty nine find the killer's
Speaker 2: actions acceptable, while forty percent find them unacceptable. So, according
Speaker 2: to Emerson College goles, more young people age eighteen to
Speaker 2: twenty nine find the cold blooded murder of this CEO
Speaker 2: acceptable then find it unacceptable, And it's forty one percent
Speaker 2: to forty If you break down that forty one percent,
Speaker 2: twenty four percent say it is somewhat acceptable and seventeen
Speaker 2: percent say it is completely acceptable. Yes, murder a CEO.
Speaker 2: We've been trained like good little Marxists. Shoot them now.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you break it down on party lines,
Speaker 2: twenty two percent of Democrats find them acceptable, while fifty
Speaker 2: nine percent find them unacceptable. So over a fifth of
Speaker 2: Democrats think it's perfectly fine to murder a CEO, to
Speaker 2: murder a man in cold blood, to shoot him in
Speaker 2: the back. And the comparison among Republicans, twelve percent of
Speaker 2: Republicans find the actions acceptable and sixteen percent of independence
Speaker 2: find the actions acceptable. I got to say, a look
Speaker 2: of all of those polls, the one that is the
Speaker 2: most horrifying is forty one percent of young people find
Speaker 2: the killer's actions acceptable and only forty percent find them unacceptable.
Speaker 2: So a plurality of young people say, hey, no problem,
Speaker 2: murder someone who's a CEO. That is as stunning an
Speaker 2: indictment of the brainwashing that young people are receiving in school,
Speaker 2: in K through twelve, education in colleges and universities and
Speaker 2: through the media as anything I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It is then indoctrination. And it's also I think the
Speaker 1: radical left taking over education where and they're normalizing it.
Speaker 1: It's what you and I talked about on this podcast
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. The left has normalized the
Speaker 1: idea of assassinating people you disagree with who are in
Speaker 1: positions of power and giving you reason to believe that
Speaker 1: it is justifiable.
Speaker 2: And remember Joy Bihar on the view said it was
Speaker 2: terrible that I said it was leftists who are saying this. Well,
Speaker 2: look that polling data shows it's Democrats and it's young.
Speaker 2: It doesn't break it down by liberal or conservative. But
Speaker 2: I am very confident a significant percentage of those young
Speaker 2: people that think it's acceptable would also identify as leftists.
Speaker 2: And we know that young people skew further left anyway.
Speaker 2: This is look, let me repeat what ought to be
Speaker 2: a simple proposition. Murder is always, always, always wrong, whether
Speaker 2: you like the person or not. And by the way,
Speaker 2: all the people who think the murder of this CEO
Speaker 2: is so horrible they don't know anything about him. They
Speaker 2: don't know about any health care clim claims. He denied
Speaker 2: he was CEO of a major healthcare insurance company. Now,
Speaker 2: I get a lot of people don't like insurance companies.
Speaker 2: I've got issues with insurance companies, but this guy may
Speaker 2: be a wonderful human being. We don't know. He was
Speaker 2: a father of two teenage kids. He was murdered in
Speaker 2: cold blood, and yet according to this poll, forty one
Speaker 2: percent of young people think perfectly okay to murder him.
Speaker 2: That is, we need to see people speaking out and
Speaker 2: saying this is wrong, period the end. Not like and
Speaker 2: when we cover this in Monday's podcast, not like Elizabeth
Speaker 2: Warren and Bernie Sanders and AOC murder is wrong, but
Speaker 2: it's okayar I understand it here. People can only be
Speaker 2: pushed so far. No murder is wrong, period the end.
Speaker 2: That would actually be a good and sensible and moral
Speaker 2: and reasonable position and what was understood throughout American history,
Speaker 2: at least in modern times. But for the cultural Marxist
Speaker 2: murder of the enemy.
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