1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: And we welcome you into our homes and again for 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: another episode of the Best Podcast Available on Jason Gibbs 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: alongside Andrew Gribble. Coming up on today's show his first 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland media interview. It's Nick Harris Center out of Washington, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: a gentleman that we took with pick number one sixty 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: in the fifth round. He is a Cleveland Brown. He 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: will join the Best Podcast Available. We'll talk to him 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: about his upbringing through high school, putting on Wade in college, 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: figuring out that he was gonna be a red shirt, 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: then not be a red shirt, uh, to going up 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: against the Alabama Crimson Tide as a true freshman. We'll 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: talk to him about all those things that a lot 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: more coming up and the Best Podcast Available and Gribbs 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: a few days removed from the draft and the results 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: and the grades that all the experts like to give 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: or coming in and I know you have an article 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: out on Cleveland Browns dot com about it, but the 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: experts seem to agree we did quite a nice job 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: this past weekend in the NFL draft. Yeah, and I 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: think the big reason why, and your draft grades are 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: usually based on what you were able to do in 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: the first round, and I think it clearly was the 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Browns got there filled their biggest position of need with 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: a player that most believed was the best tackle in 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: the draft. So I think that right there is getting 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: to start you at at least probably a B plus 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of people. And then I do think 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot believe that the Browns scored 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: some major value getting Grant Outfit in the second round 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: UH and a popular pick among a number of analysts. 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: I would say that maybe you can get a ton 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: of buzz with local media or even you know, most 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: media was I think the Jordan Elliott pick. I think 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people view this player as having a 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: lot of upside plays the defensive tackle and not only 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: is he defense tackleally the past rushing defensive tackle, which 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: you can't have enough of. And I think that the 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: combination of value and talent with what the Browns were 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: able to do it number eight eight while also getting 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a future third round pick UH and doing so, I 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: think that that one a lot of people over with 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: with what the Browns were able to accomplish over the weekend. 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: What are some of the other takeaways, UH, Now that 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: you go back and look back upon what we did 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend. What are some more your takeaways that 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: you found the research that you've been doing and a 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: lot of the stories you've been putting out on Cleveland 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Browns dot com. Well, first thing, I mean, the Browns 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: didn't draft a cornerback for the first time since two 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, which is just I mean, that's that's 51 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: a long time. And I think that that's the reflection 52 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: I think of maybe this draft class. Uh. And also 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: I would say the team's situation at corner I do 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: think they'll add maybe a player to an undrafted free agency. 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's been reports about the infamously named A 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: J Green out of Oklahoma State. Uh. And then you'll 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: probably have some room to add some veterans as well. 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: But that just shows how many corners the Browns have 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: been taken, uh these last twelve years. Uh. And I 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: just think that second, it's like it's it's about the 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: sixth round. And I think that really put a bow 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: on the Browns draft in a lot of people's eyes, 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: because it seemed like Donovan People's Jones has quite a 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: fan club among analysts, among coaches and players. You usually 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: don't get much attention for anything you do in the 66 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: sixth round. I mean this was on the same level 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: of drafting a quarterback in the sixth round. I mean 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: the kind of uh media attention the Browns have gotten 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: for this because I think that a lot of people 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: see him as a player who is misused and just 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: kind of left to be average at Michigan, and I 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: think that there's just a lot of potential there. He's 73 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: a good, good kid, great family, Uh, steps into a 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: great situation where, unlike Michigan, he's not going to be 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: expected to do huge things right away. And I think 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: when you when you're drafting on upside and and and 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: traits in the later rounds as opposed to man, we 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: might need this guy to play, I think that's that's 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: a big difference and ultimately shapes out what people think 80 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: of what you did in the draft. Yeah. Again, a 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: great job by and buried by Kevin Stefanski and company 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: in their first draft in their respective roles, some really 83 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: good things. I want to go back to what you 84 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, and that's that pick of Jordan 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: Elliott six four three three pounds Otto Missouri. You mentioned it. 86 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people like a lot of people look 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: past it. Everybody talks about picks one and two. Like 88 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: you said, they talked about pick number six. They love Donovan, 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: people's jones. Um, of all the rookies, I have a 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: feeling he's gonna make a run. Once uniform numbers get revealed, 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: people are gonna be buying the jersey. I got a feeling. Um, 92 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 1: and this, you know it was. It's a seven person 93 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: draft class, but the one that really no one is 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: talking about is Jordan Elliott. And now all of a sudden, 95 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of depth on that defensive line. Yeah. 96 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean he fits in nicely from a skill set 97 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: perspective as well, because you know you've got Sheldon and 98 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Larry as your starters, and they're they're really quality starters. 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: But even then, their defensive linemen they don't play on 100 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: every every snap of every game. You know, last year 101 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: the Browns when they were healthy, we're rotating guys in 102 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: like elianku Uh and Deborah Lawrence. So you need these 103 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: guys to play. And I think he compliments Andrew Billings 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: really well if you're trying to make like a depth charger, 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: because Andrew Billings is a is a quality defensive lineman 106 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: run stuffer. He's not someone that's gonna get to the 107 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: quarterback a lot. Though. Jordan Elliott gets to the quarterback. 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: And I think he's someone who began his career Texas, 109 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: transferred to Missouri, uh and and really just kind of 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: blossomed as as a senior there. And really even though 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: Missouri wasn't very good, I mean he was, he was 112 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a great player on that defensive line, and you know, 113 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: he just he he wasn't defensive tackle wasn't exactly a 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: position of need that you identify going into this draft, 115 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: but certainly after what we experienced last year, you know 116 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: this this was a position you need to load up 117 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: on as much as possible because, yeah, injuries can pile 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: up in a real hurry with these guys. And I 119 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: do have one tidbit about Jordan Elliott courtesy of Dan Murphy. 120 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: Jam More and Jordan Elliott both from Missouri City, Texas 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and played at Missouri, different state and now played for 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. That's, uh, that's a pretty unique fact 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: finding mission right there. Yeah. People say there's an L 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: s U pipeline for this team. I think there's a 125 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Missouri City to Missouri Texas, Missouri City, Texas to Missouri 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, Browns pipeline going on here. Yeah, not too 127 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: shabby at all. That's uh, that's pretty good. The other guy, 128 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: I think that got lost in the in the mix 129 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and then the shuffles. Jacob Phillips linebacker that we took 130 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: out of l s U the date of the round 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: three guys seem to get lost in the Grant Delpit 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: wave that came. It's also late. Yeah, there's some late picks. 133 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean eleven and forty I think is when we 134 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: made that pick. Yeah, I mean that that's that that 135 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: plays into it as well. But I also think it's 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: probably because Jacob Phillips was It's a combination of like 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: big school but overshadowed by a lot of other players. 138 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the that might be that 139 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: might have taken away some of the buzz of the 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips pick. You know, a lot of people, for example, 141 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: knew about a Logan Wilson at Wyoming because he was 142 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: like the big deal at Wyoming, and the Bengals took 143 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: him in a lot of people believe they got a 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: starting linebacker of the future. But Jacob bill is a 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: quality player that played next to Patrick Queen and was 146 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: just a sure tackler. I think that's the big thing 147 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: that stands out to him and I I think he'll 148 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: have the same chances to contribute as anyone else. And 149 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's really any locked in guys 150 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: on that defense right now. I would assume you'd you'd 151 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: peg Mack Wilson and and b J. Goodson in some way, 152 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: shape and form, But after that it's just gonna be 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: a mixing and action of who can who can fill 154 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the needs that Joe Woods wants on that defense and 155 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: who can do a pest and Phillips I think has 156 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: probably a clearer path to playing time than maybe Jorge 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: Elliott does right away. But both I think are gonna 158 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: have some kind of role in this defense this year. Yeah, 159 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: no question about it. We are presented by our great 160 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: friends at Arby's Beef and Cheddar yet, but I plan 161 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: on getting one a little bit later, right before Cleveland 162 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Browns Daily on this Thursday. So we appreciate Arby's coming 163 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: on board, and we thank them for everything that they're 164 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: doing for us and their sponsorship and their partnership with 165 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns GRIBs. We were talking draft grades. Everybody 166 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: mostly a's. Some people gave everybody a's. Others like mel 167 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Kiper gave one team A and A and everybody else 168 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: basically gotta be unless you were the Packers or there 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: or the Las Vegas Raiders. I don't know how the 170 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: Packers are doing their version of best podcast available this 171 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: week's self. Yeah, I'm not quite sure how you're trotting out, 172 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: the people that you're trotting out or what you're saying. 173 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: But good news that is uh, that is not the 174 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: situation here in Cleveland, but mostly a's couple of bees. 175 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: The lowest grade, though, came from Pete Prisco, good friend 176 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns Daily Show from cb A sports 177 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: dot com. He gave the Browns a B minus. His 178 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: worst pick, he put Grant delp it now the reason 179 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: for that outstanding eighteen didn't play as well in didn't 180 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: tackle that well for l S. U could be a 181 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: boomer bust guy in the second round. We've heard what 182 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Grant Delpa thinks about that, and people are questioning his 183 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: ability to tackle the skinny. They have a lot of 184 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: questions in this draft. They if they work it out, 185 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: it'll be a good one. Can generic Wills move from 186 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: right tackle to the left side, Will del Put revert 187 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: to his old playing, old ways of playing? If all 188 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: the answers are yes, it will be good. His best 189 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: pick fifth round center Nick Harris. I mean there's a 190 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of people that were excited about that Nick Harris pick. 191 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: I think that people saw a really good center that 192 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: was being maybe wrongly judged because of his height. So 193 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I think that maybe Nick Harris might have ultimately been 194 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the best value in terms of what people granted him 195 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: and where you actually got him. I mean, the Delpa 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: thing is and Wills are those are fair questions, and 197 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: I think that those are questions we've been addressing for 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: a while here. I I just tend to think that 199 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: both of those questions, I'm betting on yes more than 200 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm betting on no. And I think that's what the 201 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: Browns believe, and I I think that's why you end 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: up getting those players at those spots, because maybe some 203 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: teams did have some questions about that, but the Browns 204 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: are there to take advantage of it. Yeah, I think 205 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of questions with some of 206 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: these guys, but I think it's questions that with good coaching, 207 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: um thing, all those questions disappear and we start seeing 208 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: results in success on the football field. Well. Pete Prisco's 209 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: best pick for the Cleveland Browns was center Nick Harris 210 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: out of Washington. He's got a great story. He was 211 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: kind enough to give us a few minutes of his 212 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: time and for the first interview of anyone here in Cleveland, 213 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: whether it was with the Browns or with the media, 214 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: Nick Harris sat down and joined the best podcast available, 215 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: and we're happy to be joined right now on the 216 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: best podcast available by one of the new Cleveland Browns, 217 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: drafted UH in the fifth round out of the University 218 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: of Washington, centator Nick Harris joins us. UH and Nick, 219 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: we appreciate a few minutes of your time. Welcome to 220 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns from a virtual standpoint from a far 221 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: away distance, We're happy to have you and congratulations on 222 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: what I'm sure has been a weekend you and your 223 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: family won't soon forget. Yeah, it's been. It's been an exciting, 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: exciting opportunity and you know, we're we're excited to get 225 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: out to Cleveland and you know, just get to work 226 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: and play ball. I mean, you know I'm ready, Nick, 227 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: just kind of walk us through your your draft weekend. 228 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: What was what was it like from maybe Thursday to 229 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: Saturday once you finally got that call from the Browns. Yeah. So, 230 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean as of recent I've been in Seattle just 231 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: by my school, UM, working out and um, you know, 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: just trying to keep my mind on things. But I 233 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: flew back home to l A because That's where I'm 234 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: originally from, UM, just to be with my family, just 235 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: my immediate family. UM. And yeah, it was, it was. 236 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: I went through all emotions, um in those couple of days, 237 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, anxious, excited, angry, mad, happy, UM. But you know, 238 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: once I got that call, all that stuff went away, 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: and UM, you know, just greatful the opportunity that you know, 240 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns organization has given me. And you know, I'm 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm ready to you know, just take it and go 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: and run with it. Did you have any conversations with 243 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: the Browns leading up to uh to draft weekend? Had 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: you met with them, had you talked to them? And 245 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: you talked to them at the combine at all? I 246 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: talked with them briefly, UM, I want to say at 247 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: the combine real briefly, but nothing nothing too like two 248 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: in depth. That's why I kind of I kind of 249 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: threw me off. I was like, wow, I didn't even 250 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: have like that that much interaction with the you know, 251 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: with the Browns. So you know, it was it was 252 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: it caught me off guard. But you know, you know, 253 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason, and I'm excited for it. 254 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Did you know my U about the Browns offensive scheme beforehand? 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: And what have you gotten to learn about it? And 256 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: how a lot of people think you're kind of the 257 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: the the kind of center that this offense need he uses. Yeah, 258 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I have, I have heard some things. Um, 259 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: And obviously in going through this process, I just wanted 260 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: to be in the right fit, you know. I wanna, 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: you know, get into an offense where I I can 262 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: use my my abilities to my you know, to the 263 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: best I can. And I have heard that it is 264 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: an offense where they people think I can succeed and 265 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I also do too, So I'm excited to you know, 266 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: get going and trying to learn this playbook and you know, 267 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: just try to just try to get better every day 268 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: and learn from the guys who are already there, and um, 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, just try to learn to become a pro 270 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: to in this offense. So, you know, I'm definitely excited 271 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: for that. What have the challenges been for you leading 272 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: up to draft weekend? You know, I mean not being 273 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: able to take visits and and meet with teams that 274 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: maybe wanted to spend a little more time with you 275 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: from the draft. Uh, how do you get ready? You know, 276 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: there's no pro days? What what was what was the 277 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: process like for you in these months leading up to 278 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: the draft when you're already trying to figure your way 279 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: out through this process and and know how lengthy it is, 280 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: but then all the curveballs of what's happened here in 281 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: the world and since the last days, I mean, you know, 282 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: just from what I've heard from everybody else who has 283 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: already gone through the process, that I missed. I missed 284 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, no visits, none of that stuff. So, um, 285 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: you know it was it was kind of nerve racking 286 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: because there's just so many uncertainties, you know, know, so 287 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: many unknowns. I didn't know what to do, what to expect. 288 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I just tried to stay ready, you know, 289 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: I just try to stay mentally physically ready. Um, tried 290 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: to stay in contact with that with whoever I could. Um, 291 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: and you know, just just made sure that you know, 292 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: I was always readily available to anybody who wants to 293 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: call or anything. So, um, definitely was weird. It was uncertain, um, 294 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: but you know it turned out it turned out good. 295 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: At the end, I get, what kind of workouts are 296 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: you able to do under these kind of limitations? Like 297 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: how how is it different? Funny story? I'm actually working 298 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: out in my strength coaches at you Dub's garage, um, 299 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: so and he has everything I need. There's I have 300 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot enough equipment. Um. You know, I have everything 301 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: you need to you know, lift and train. So I 302 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: haven't really missed the beat since, Like I haven't had 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: anywhere not to work out at all. So you know, 304 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: everything's been good. I work out the majority of the 305 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: days a week, and you know it's been good. It's 306 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: been a smooth, smooth ride with working out all right. 307 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: So you mentioned up at you dubbed working out of 308 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: a garage there and strength conditioning coach. You're from California? 309 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Why Washington? It was only d one offer I had 310 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: out of high school. Um, so I did. There was 311 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: no there really was no other options, So I I 312 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, I knew I wanted to play UM at 313 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: that level. I knew I was capable. Um, So when 314 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: I when the opportunity presented itself, I had to take 315 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: it for sure. I mean it definitely was definitely was 316 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: a blessing and came late, and you know, I'm happy, 317 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, Coach Peterson gave me that the opportunity to 318 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: go ahead and you know, play there and I think 319 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: it turned out pretty well. And then yeah, just a 320 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: little bit when the coaches, uh were the coaches at 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: New Hampshire heartbroken that you turned them down? Uh a 322 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit, I mean, but you know 323 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: they kind of thought, they kind of knew I would 324 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: eventually get found by someone. Um, so they were they were, 325 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: they were good about it, and you know I always 326 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: kept the contact with them for just just giving me 327 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity. For sure, I'm sure the family had to 328 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: be fairly happy that you stayed on the West coast 329 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: and didn't go all the way to New Hampshire traveling 330 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: to the East coast for football games. I'm sure it 331 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: was a little bit of a challenge for them. Oh yeah, 332 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it was good out for sure, for sure. Um, 333 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: when you take a look at the program, you get 334 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: on campus, you think you're going to red shirt, or 335 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: at least that's what you were told. What what's the 336 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: mentality you have when you show up on that first 337 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: day and take us through that process from you step 338 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: on campus. You you start practicing in anticipation for the 339 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: fall you're gonna be a red shirt, and then all 340 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're not a red shirt and you're 341 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: playing right in the thicker things. Yeah, I mean, I 342 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: mean you said it right. I mean I had all 343 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: intentions of red shoting. I was two hundred and seventy 344 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: pounds my freshman year. Um, so you know I had 345 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: all intentions of getting bigger and learning to playbook, learning 346 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: the offense, just learn how to be a called athlete. Um. 347 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: But I didn't let that stop my development. Um in camp, 348 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, I tried to learn a playbook as fast 349 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: as I could. UM. Just played fast. That was my 350 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 1: one thing. I just wanted to play fast because as 351 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, you you can mess up, but if you 352 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: mess up on a hundred percent, um, you know that 353 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: they can't knock you for your effort, you know. So 354 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: that's something I you know, I'll try to hold my 355 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: hat on UM. And you know, the coaches they were 356 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: surprised at how fast I picked it up, how fast 357 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: I was playing UM. And you know, they presented me 358 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity. They didn't force it there, like if you 359 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: if you want to, like if you want to play, 360 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: you know we would love that, and you know we 361 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: really can you can help the team. But if not, 362 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: you know you can red shirt and really you know, grow. 363 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: And I wanted to get on the field as fast 364 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: like I wanted to play football. I didn't want to 365 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: see it. So you know, when it when it presented itself, 366 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: I took it. And you know, I think I think 367 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: it worked out. You were recruited as a center, right, 368 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so we're you surprised that they even gave 369 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: you that look at at Garden. Then, well, so I 370 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: was recruited as a center, but I played tackle in 371 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: high school, so I didn't really play center in high school. UM. 372 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: But obviously because my like my height, they recruated me 373 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: as a center. UM, but I was taking a lot 374 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: of reps at guard for like injury purposes, because we 375 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries and camped that year. So 376 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: they just threw me in that guard and you know 377 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: I kind of got it fast. I got the hang 378 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: of it, and um, I wasn't surprised, um, but you 379 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: know I got used to it fast and it was 380 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: it was fun. I love playing guard. Was your first 381 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: live action in a college football game against Alabama? No, no, 382 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no, okay, no, I thought I read 383 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: that somewhere and no. I played, um a lot that year, 384 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: so I had five four starts, but I played in 385 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: all the games except two of them, so it wasn't 386 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: my first college action. So my first college action was 387 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: against Rutgers that year was the first game. Um. But 388 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: I did play against Alabama though, so that that did happen. Yeah, 389 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: and how was that? It was pretty crazy? You know 390 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: I just turned eighteen, um, you know, and it was 391 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: it was definitely was a It was a learning experience 392 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, um, you know that that whole 393 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: defense is in the NFL now, so you know it 394 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: was definitely some talent. You know, I went back watching 395 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: the game, you know, figured out what I need to 396 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: work on and um that off season, you know, it 397 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: definitely motivated me to get back and get ready to 398 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: go because you know, I definitely had I had the tools. 399 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: I just had to put some weight on. I had 400 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: to get some confidence. I had this, you know, so 401 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: definitely went back looked at it and helped me grow 402 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: for the next year for sure. So, Nick, what was 403 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: the process like for you then moving to center? Like, 404 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: how did you had you had you ever done it 405 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: before in high school? I know you said you play tackle, 406 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: but what was it like learning the position? Yeah, so 407 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: I played center uh one game in high school because 408 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: our center got hurt. Um, So I kind of knew 409 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: how to snap already like that. It's never been a 410 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: big deal for me learning how to snap. It wasn't 411 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: really that hard. Um. But you know, it's the it's 412 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: the taking control of you know, having everybody know listening 413 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: to you and you're making the calls and you're making 414 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: the adjustments. You know, you're you're mic pointing and all 415 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: that stuff. So, um, that was the thing that I 416 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: had to I had to get used to. But it 417 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: wasn't hard because I'm a vocal person as is, Like 418 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: I like talking, I like you know, being in control 419 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: of things. So um, it wasn't that wasn't difficult. It 420 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: was just something new that I had to learn how 421 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: to you know, you know control. So it wasn't a 422 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: hard transition at all. Actually, I think it it was 423 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: way easier than I thought it was gonna be. Um. 424 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Obviously there was some technical things that I had to 425 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: work on with my footwork and you know, past setting 426 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: is different as a center and run blocking is different 427 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: as you got snapped the ball first, so your hands 428 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: are on different time, like on a different time. So, um, 429 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: from a technical standpoint, it wasn't difficult, just something new 430 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: to learn, and you know, I think it worked out 431 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: for me. What was the biggest challenge in putting on 432 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: the weight? Did you do you have a crazy shake? 433 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: Do you have like some of the other guys that 434 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: were coming out, some horror story of things that they 435 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: put together to put on pounds? No, I don't. I 436 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't even say it was a challenge. Um, it was 437 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: just staying on it. You know, I had to be 438 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: all I had to really mature and like grow in 439 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: that aspect of taking my nutrition serious because I knew 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: it would you know, it helped me in on the field. So, UM, 441 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: I just had to stay on it and make sure 442 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: I was eating the right stuff and um, putting on 443 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: the right weight and making sure I just had a schedule, 444 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: a plan. You know, I was talking to our nutritionists 445 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: all the time. So, you know, it was just a 446 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: maturity thing. You just have to learn how to manage 447 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: my nutrition and get stuff eating at the right time, 448 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: the certain of my calorie, certain amount of this, certamount 449 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: of that. So, UM, just a maturity thing really. But 450 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't tough though at all. When did you grow 451 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: into a leader at Washington? Would you say? Um? I 452 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: would say my junior my junior when I started playing centers, 453 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: when I kind of I grew into a more vocal presence. 454 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: You know, I started to feel more comfortable on the 455 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: on the team, and UM, at that time playing center, 456 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: UM with you know, with veteran guys on the old line, 457 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, they started to listen to me. So I 458 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: started to realize that I did have some you know, 459 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: a kind of a role on that team as a 460 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: as a leader. So I really I really understood that. Um. 461 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: My junior year and then my senior year, it was 462 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: the whole team. At first, it was just the offensive 463 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: line and just the offense, but I realized how much, 464 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, the team fed off of my energy and 465 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: fed off the things I said. So I would say 466 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: my junior year and then my senior year really kind 467 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: of grew, um, the whole team. And as as being 468 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: a leader, what has made you the most successful? UM, 469 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: technique or mental? Which one? Uh? Which one do you 470 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: pride yourself on that's really kind of helped you take 471 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: your game to the next level? Yeah, I mean both, honestly, 472 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: I both are Those are two things I definitely take, um, 473 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, really serious because you know, play in center, Um, 474 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: you gotta be locked in. Mentally, you gotta know, you 475 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: gotta know more than the average person about football, and 476 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: you gotta know more about everything. UM. And and the 477 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: technique wise, you know, not being a big, big maller 478 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: guy like not you know, a big six five three 479 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: twenty guy. You know, you gotta you gotta learn some 480 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: tools to you know, the chief blocks and UM, you know, 481 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: make sure that you you're you're sharp out there because 482 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the biggest dude. But the technique 483 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: has to stand down, has to be on point, and 484 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: you have to make sure you get blocks made and UM, 485 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: So definitely those are the two things I make sure 486 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: and you know, watching film for both of those things 487 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: is huge. Learning from other guys and um, learning different 488 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: tricks of the trade, for sure. So both of those 489 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: two that are definitely, uh something that take pride and 490 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: for sure. And nick was the moment against Arizona State 491 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: in two eighteen. You probably know what I'm talking about. 492 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Is that the most famous? Yeah? Yeah, I mean that 493 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: was crazy. Um, I don't know, It's just it was 494 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: just something I did. Uh. We me and that guy 495 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: were going back and forth the whole game, you know, 496 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: talking mess to each other, and um, he I was 497 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: getting to his head and I was just messing. I 498 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: was just messing. I was being myself. Um. But after 499 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: that game, my phone was going crazy and it was 500 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: blowing up and like froze, and I just had a 501 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: whole bunch of notifications and stuff. So yeah, it was 502 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: the much famous I felt for sure. You you had 503 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a lot of accolades in college, a lot of awards, 504 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: a lot of recognition, uh for your play at Washington 505 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: from a conference standpoint, from a national standpoint, Um, is 506 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: there an accolade that stands out to you? Is there 507 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: an award that means more to you than any out 508 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: of all the ones that you've been able to achieve 509 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: so far. UM, I think M I think that my 510 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: the two the two packs to old championships me a lot, um, 511 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, because I was I contributed on both of those. Um. 512 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: You know, I played through the whole both of those 513 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: whole games and those you know, those games were good games. 514 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: They were grinders and we got the job done. But 515 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: I think the main one I'm pretty proud of is 516 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: UM one of our banquet awards I got. UM it's 517 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: called the Guy Clarity Award. It's it's voted by the 518 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: whole team and it's basically, UM, just the most inspirational players, 519 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, the person that you know inspires you to 520 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: come to the stadium every day and you know, put 521 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: your best foot forward and UM, someone you can lean 522 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: on when you know you're not feeling it that morning. 523 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: And you know, the whole my whole team, UM, you 524 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: know voted for me. And that meant a lot because 525 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: it it made me realize like the effect I had 526 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: on my team. You know, I don't really realize it 527 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: because going through it, you know, you're just trying to 528 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: worry about getting your job done, you know, but it 529 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: it kind of you know, resonated with me. That, Like, damn, 530 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I did have an impact on these guys, and you know, 531 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: I kind of want to keep building on that characteristic 532 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: of that going forward into the next level. So um yeah, 533 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: that one definitely that that one definitely meant the most 534 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: for sure. What about what you do on the field 535 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: translates to a wide zone scheme? Like what specifically? Why 536 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: why are you the right fit in those kind of schemes? Um? 537 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: I would just say my athleticism, I think, Um, I 538 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: move lottery laterally very well. Um, I'm I'm pretty quick. 539 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: My short area quickness is pretty well, and I have 540 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: pretty good hand placement. I'm on reach box and stuff 541 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: like that. And I really pride myself on blocking on 542 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: the second and third level. Um. It's not an easy 543 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: task as all aligneman, but um it's something I really 544 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: love doing. It's it's super fun. Um And just I 545 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: know just the nature of how I play. You know, 546 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm naturally just a quick guy, just the faster guy. 547 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: So um, it'll be definitely I think those two things 548 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: definitely are suitable for being in a wide zone office 549 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: for sure. Well, Nick, we appreciate your time today, and 550 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: you have some great guy is in that offensive line 551 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: room to learn from, and Joel Betonio and j. C. 552 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: Treader and uh a guy that used to play here 553 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: by the name of Joe Thomas who was pretty good 554 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: in his own right. So I know that Joe speaks 555 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: very highly of you. He did so on on Cleveland 556 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily on the Browns Daily radio show earlier on Tuesday. 557 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: And we wish you all the best of luck here 558 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: and can't wait to get you here eventually. Can't wait, yeah, 559 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: exactly for us to be able to move on and 560 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: move forward here and hopefully we're playing some football come fall. 561 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: And we wish you all the best of luck, keep 562 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: working out in that garage, and uh, we look forward 563 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: to talking with you soon. Yes, sir, I appreciate it. 564 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. Special thanks to Nick Harris, formerly of the 565 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: Washington Huskies, although he's training in his strength and conditioning 566 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: coach his garage right now. God bless all of them. 567 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Every player has found a way to stay in shape 568 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: and work out. And meanwhile, I've found a way to 569 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: consume a lot more adult beverages in life and maybe 570 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: eat more food than I normally would, which is saying 571 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: something that never mind, I mean, for for Nick Harris, 572 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: the struggle is real. I mean, the offensive lineman I 573 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: think have it the toughest here. Like I think that 574 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: especially guys that are naturally smaller. I think that for 575 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: the position they play, I think that's where it gets tough. 576 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, using my own terrible personal fitness 577 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: for example, I used to involve weights in what I 578 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: used to do before this. I haven't seen a weight 579 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: since this. I'll start I'm just running. I'm doing cardio 580 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: and everything like that, because that's that's what's easiest. Pen 581 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: I and d X might not work for some of 582 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: these offensive linemen. They're trying to to keep some muscle on. 583 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how these guys go 584 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: about it. I do think all these guys are there 585 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: are finding some kind of way to get it done, 586 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's it's a credit to them to 587 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: get creative with this. Well. I mean, when we get 588 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: the green light to finally start things, it's going to 589 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: be hitting the ground on a dead sprint. It's it's 590 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: not hopping on the treadmill of a slow walk in 591 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: an incline and working your way up. It's going to 592 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: be we gotta go. I have a feeling, and these 593 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to be ready to go right 594 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: from day one. Big takeaways from Nick Harris. It's fun guy. 595 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: I think he I think he's gonna be open to 596 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: whatever the Browns have plan for him. I don't. I 597 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be pushing to he knows. I 598 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: think that they've got a veteran with J. C. Trader 599 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: ahead of him at center, and he knows that he's 600 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: probably long term a center in the NFL. But if 601 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: they tap him on the shoulder and say, hey, let's 602 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: see what you can do it right guard, I don't 603 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: think that'll stop him. And I think his height really 604 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: might be a limitation at at guard. I haven't checked 605 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: the numbers, but I can't imagine there aren't many six 606 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: one guards in the NFL. But he's done it before 607 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: and it seems like he's overcome the odds there. So 608 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean that right guard competition for the Browns is 609 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: wide open, so I can't rule him out. I wouldn't 610 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: call him the favorite, but he's certainly in the mix 611 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: there now. Yeah, and it's interesting to see the kid 612 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: just wants to play and make a difference, and he 613 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: wants to and he's a leader. Uh. You take a 614 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: look at all the obstacles he's had to overcome, the 615 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: questions about your two that that you're too short even 616 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: though you're two inch two inches taller, you'd be like 617 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. All the questions he's had 618 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: to endure and overcome. And he seems like a great kid. 619 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: He comes from a great family and uh, worked his 620 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: way up and really is a guy that I think 621 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: once Bill Callahan gets his hands on him and can 622 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: develop him, I think the sky's the limit for him. 623 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: And I think that the Callahan connection can't be understated enough. Yeah, 624 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: and I can't understand, I can't overstate enough the importance 625 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: of having multiple people that can play center in your roster. 626 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's just so important. I mean, you you 627 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: you need that skill set. You don't want to have 628 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: to Basically, what you don't want to have to do 629 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: is rearrange your entire offensive line if the center gets hurt. 630 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: You want to be able to plug someone in that 631 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: is the back up center and not have to move 632 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: any other positions. I think most teams do not have 633 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: that luxury, but the Browns I think will this season 634 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: by having a true backup center as opposed to moving 635 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: this guard over here and this guard this guy over 636 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean that that that just causes a lot more problems. Yeah, alright, 637 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: So taking a look at that offensive line room, your 638 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: centers or Trader Willie Wright, uh, Nick Harris, Evan Brown, 639 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: a guy that you that you brought in from the Giants, Uh, 640 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: your tackles Will's Conklin, Lamb Hubbard guards or Batonio Teller Forbes. 641 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: I might be missing a couple other guys on on 642 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: the very back end of that roster, but uh, those 643 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: are those are the big names right now as we 644 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: uh as we see it, and those are the big 645 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: names as we get ready for camp and NFL season. 646 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: It's a much deeper offensive line room than it was 647 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: five months ago. Yeah, and I think it'll be interesting. 648 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I would imagine the Browns would add a couple more 649 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: bodies at tackle. I mean four probably isn't enough right now, 650 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: especially you know, if Chris Chris Hopper can play all 651 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: those spots, I mean if he maybe if they give 652 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: him a shot at right guard, I mean that that'll 653 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: be interesting, and then you definitely need to add uh 654 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: some more players at tackle. Uh, the right guard competition, 655 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: I would I would say it's wide open. I imagine 656 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: that the betting favorite, if if there is such a thing, 657 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: would be why Teller because he finished this season as 658 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: you write guard, he played pretty well. He also parted 659 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: with a fifth and sixth round pick to get him 660 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: on your roster. I mean that's no small amount of compensation. 661 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: So I think there's a belief that he can get 662 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: the job done, especially with a full offseason and just 663 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: not being thrown into things kind of late in the 664 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: process that but you know, we all saw what Drew 665 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Forbes was able to accomplish in a month of training camp. 666 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: He got really he he improved a lot. That injury 667 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: kind of just ruined his his potential that season. So 668 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if another roster move is necessary, but 669 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me if you don't like 670 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: what you see coming out of training camp with those guys. Yeah, 671 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: it's it's a nice room. And now you're looking at Wills, Conklin, 672 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: be Tonio, Teller or Hubbard or Forbes. I guess at 673 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the guard spot and then tread or at center. I 674 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: mean that's that is a significantly upgraded front line if 675 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: you're Baker Mayfield, has to make you pretty happy going 676 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: into the season. Yeah, and it'll just be it'll be 677 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: interesting to see how these guys adjust to Kevin Stefanski's system. 678 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, it'll be interesting to see 679 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: how they're learning it virtually. I think you've got some 680 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: smart guys in that room that can really pick things 681 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: up quickly. Uh. For Jendrick Wills, it's brand new. He's 682 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: not comparing it to anything else from the past. So 683 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: I have confidence in them. And you know, obviously we 684 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: just wish that Jendrick Wills could get out there so 685 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: quickly and get every possible rep at that new position, 686 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: because it is going to be an adjustment, but it's 687 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: one he's been prepared for. Well, that's Will's having to 688 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: adjust and be a rookie and do it all virtually. 689 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: In terms of a learning process. Um, whatever is going 690 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: to happen with Nick Harris and his learning process all 691 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: being done virtually. And I don't think that we can 692 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: short change Conklin, you know, being a free agent coming 693 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: in having to learn a new offense and having to 694 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: do it from far away and not with his teammates 695 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: and not get the reps. He needs the reps almost 696 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: as much as Wills does from a timing standpoint, and 697 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 1: where everybody's gonna be and where everybody lines up. Yeah, 698 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: the real advantages during all of this are the the 699 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: teams that that had some continuity. You know, I've been 700 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: looking around the a f C North recently, and you know, 701 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers is returning their entire 702 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: starting defense. All eleven starters are coming back on that team. 703 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's something that the Browns can't 704 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: do when you're when you change coaches and a GM, 705 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some some roster turnover. Uh. So it's 706 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to do, but they're gonna have 707 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: to adapt and they're gonna have to lean on some 708 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: of these guys who have who have done this before. 709 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: But everyone's learning something new. So and I do think 710 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: most NFL teams they're gonna have to deal at this 711 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: in some way. It's just gonna be the ones who 712 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: handled the best move forward. Yeah. Would you say the 713 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: offensive line room as it's constructed right now is probably 714 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: one of the top three positions on this football team. 715 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a That's a tough one because I 716 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: was put top five, but then I was like, I 717 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if I go top three, because 718 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: I think the the easiest answers right now for me 719 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: are probably running back UH and and probably tight end 720 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: or wide receiver I would put I would put ahead 721 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: of of of of offensive line at the moment. But 722 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: it's definitely certainly it has improved the most in the 723 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: last month because I think you were entering an off 724 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: season with just unknowns at both of the tackle positions, 725 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: and you you go in with the ambition of fixing 726 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: those in free agency, but one you got one of 727 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: the few guys who you feel good about in free 728 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: agency that was available, So that's that's a big win. 729 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: And then too you have the tackle that you want 730 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: fall to you, which was not guaranteed going into this draft. 731 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of good things have happened 732 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: to that group, and now it's just gonna be a 733 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: matter of of going into the season and making it click. 734 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: On an expnight timeline. Well, there will be a virtual 735 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: rookie minicamp. We do know that eight through the tenth 736 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: with all the rookies, including the UH post draft undrafted 737 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: signees and hopefully we should get that list again. There's 738 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces and parts with having to get 739 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: all those guys figured out. You're talking physicals and you're 740 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: talking everything else in terms of getting those guys up 741 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: and being cleared before you announced their signings. But uh, 742 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: you'll have that going on, and then the rookies then 743 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: will be incorporated in with the Vets for the virtual 744 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: off season. So a lot still to come and we 745 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: wait and see when a we can even get back 746 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: in our building be we can hit the practice field 747 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: and see what this whole season will look like. I'm 748 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: just excited. I mean, we have a tough enough time 749 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: with three man zooms, Like ninety man zooms are gonna 750 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: be insane. I just can't imagine what that's like. But 751 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: all credit to Kevin Stefanski and his coaching staff for 752 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: for managing those kind of things. Yeah, they continue to 753 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job. Same with our I T department, 754 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: who I think are working around the clock and taking 755 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: turns napping when they can uh to make sure that 756 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: everybody is up and running and everybody has what they need. 757 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap up this week's best podcast available we're 758 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: back with you on Tuesday as a girl will rejoin 759 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: us and uh we'll continue to meet some of these 760 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: new rookies and new faces and get to know them. 761 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk to a few new players next week as well. 762 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: I want to thank Jeff McDaniel for all of his help. 763 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: I want to thank Nick Harris. 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