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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and sixty nine. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Morgan Wallen in studio in a bit which came

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Speaker 1: together extremely last minute, right, Yes, because I reached out

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Speaker 1: to him and I said, hey, come by the house,

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Speaker 1: because I think we're lucky to finally get to do

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Speaker 1: a little more in person stuff a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: also COVID testing is a little more prevalent, so it's

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Speaker 1: a little easier to get Yeah, so it's a little

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Speaker 1: easier to go, hey, get a COVID test. Then't come

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Speaker 1: over because if that happens two months ago, it was

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Speaker 1: impossible to get a COVID test. So we make a

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Speaker 1: couple of those calls, and he's performing luckily on a

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Speaker 1: it just worked out. And he hasn't talked to anybody

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Speaker 1: in a long time ever since the controversy. And I

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Speaker 1: tell you you'll be able to hear it coming up

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Speaker 1: in a minute. But obviously I was gonna ask him

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Speaker 1: a dude. Yeah, because it spent a little time with them,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit, but enough to go, man, is

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Speaker 1: I like the guy and so, but I definitely wanted

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Speaker 1: to to get his whole story because his controversy won't

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Speaker 1: be the long story about him. This is just a

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Speaker 1: blip on the radar of an extremely talented guy. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna have good blips, unfortunate blips, bad blips. So I

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Speaker 1: definitely didn't want to make it about that because I

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Speaker 1: want these podcasts, whenever we talk to them about their life,

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Speaker 1: to be you can listen to it in a year

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Speaker 1: and still enjoy it. And if he comes in and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what happened in Alabama, that the whole

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Speaker 1: editorial decision to just do it like we would normally

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Speaker 1: do it, and we're not in here trying to find

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Speaker 1: controversy anyway. But I was going to ask him about it,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't even have to get to it. He

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Speaker 1: brought it up, so and I was and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you because you and I were talking about this last

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Speaker 1: night after it was over, because again I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to got you anybody ever, And I was actually reaching

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Speaker 1: out to him before that happened. He should come by

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Speaker 1: because he's freaking blowing up like crazy, like I've never

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Speaker 1: seen before except for Luke Holmbs and so that stuff

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Speaker 1: happened kind of derailed us getting together here or uh,

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Speaker 1: they can took a little time. He's like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: coming in great, drove over to the house. He called

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Speaker 1: me before. It's okay, you want the gas station. I

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Speaker 1: So he came in and the only thing I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask him was do you plan to get

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Speaker 1: to go back to Saturday Night Live? Because that was

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Speaker 1: him losing that spot was because of all of that

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Speaker 1: somewhat controversial weekend in Alabama, which which in my opinion

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Speaker 1: I have been saying the whole time, wasn't that controversial

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Speaker 1: as far as he was hanging out with a bunch

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Speaker 1: If you have straight COVID rules and this and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna come play your show, that makes sense to go, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll just get to the music, was are they gonna

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Speaker 1: put you back on s n L because it's a

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Speaker 1: really cool get for a country artist. And he actually

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Speaker 1: from there. Also, we're hanging out and you know, we

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Speaker 1: We have a studio built here and it's this studio

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Speaker 1: and I was just shocked you with such a piano play.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, you canna walk over there and

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Speaker 1: playing piano. So there's even a clip of that of us.

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Speaker 1: You will cut to it of us over at the

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Speaker 1: recording this. But I really enjoyed it. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Morgan's team will listen to this because this is the

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Speaker 1: first one he's done a long time person aview. We

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Speaker 1: just appreciate you guys trusting me with them to not

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Speaker 1: you know, be a douche because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are douches and then have been chasing that click bath.

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Speaker 1: I never want to chase clickbait because clickbait comes and goes.

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Speaker 1: But relationships that you have, not even just with artists,

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Speaker 1: not just in radio but in life. So I get

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Speaker 1: off my little a lot soap box. I was pumped

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Speaker 1: to get Morgan in here and away we go. First up.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of music. So when I had to

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Speaker 1: five projects, it wasn't like there was a bucket full

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Speaker 1: of amazing stuff. There's some stuff here that I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to check out. People took the week off this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there's some stuff here. At number five. I do

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Speaker 1: enjoy the two guys from S four. They have a

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Speaker 1: song called close Enough Here you go we kissing to

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Speaker 1: get out. One of those guys looks like me, a

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Speaker 1: little bit, like a slightly younger version of me. There

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Speaker 1: from Australia. I think so yeah. I've met him a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. Nice guys turn it up all days, don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what this same at number four. Lucas

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Speaker 1: Graham has a new song out now. You would know

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Speaker 1: him from his song seven years one sounds seven years old.

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Speaker 1: My mama told me, make yourself some things or you'll

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Speaker 1: be lone giggy one song. Here's a new one called

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Speaker 1: where I'm From with Whiz Khalifa. The way for the

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Speaker 1: people coming up at to me to take the same length,

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Speaker 1: be in the same way since the game, in the game,

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Speaker 1: and it ain't changed. Man. Not forgetting I'm coming from,

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Speaker 1: but I won't forget where I'm going. He performed one

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Speaker 1: of the live performance nights of Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 1: I think he was the most difficult of all that

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Speaker 1: because he wasn't my guy. I brought christianson. Somebody had

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Speaker 1: Lucas Graham and then we're like, he's got difficult to

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Speaker 1: American culture at times, with certain phrases and words and meanings,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes that can be misconstrued. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: tall anywhere. I heard. Number three, Dan and Shay have

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Speaker 1: Should Save Christmas, Show me Down, take me to watch

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Speaker 1: Raging Idiots have a Christmas song out that we put

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Speaker 1: out last year. It's called Elf on the Shelf. The

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Speaker 1: Elf on the Shelf can go and elf himself. I

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Speaker 1: forgot about that, Okay, kind to bust it back out.

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Speaker 1: At number two, Hansen has a new album out called Perennial.

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Speaker 1: Here's a new song called nothing Like a Love Song.

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Speaker 1: I like Hanson, I like their music. I like the

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Speaker 1: only thing that gets them is they were kids they

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Speaker 1: had long hair into do. But otherwise they're a great band.

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Speaker 1: And then number one, I'm gonna put Billy Ray Cyrus

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Speaker 1: in here. He put out the Singing Hill sessions. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is Mama said Knock You Out, which is of

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Speaker 1: course an l col J cover. Here, you gomm don't

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Speaker 1: one because I like Billy Ray and I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's very that's interesting. If anything, he's going after something.

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Speaker 1: And you may not even know the Yellow Cold JA

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Speaker 1: song if you're you know, but Ellow Cold J for

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Speaker 1: a while was the biggest rapper, probably before you a

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Speaker 1: little bit too. I remember that song though, Mama said,

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Speaker 1: knock you out video with him in a box singering yes.

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Speaker 1: So Daniel Bradberry released in my additional my honorable mention,

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Speaker 1: she released a version of her favorite Christmas song, Holy Night.

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Speaker 1: Oh Here. The Angel System of a Down put out

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Speaker 1: their first new music in fifteen years. They have two

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Speaker 1: new songs. Here's one called protect the Land. Fifteen years

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Speaker 1: that can't be right, that's right, Yeah, fifteen years since

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Speaker 1: they put out an album, an album. But who when

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Speaker 1: they did Steal this album? That was two thousand five.

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Speaker 1: Ye wow, that's crazy. They hated each other for a

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Speaker 1: while and he did a solo thing so in a minute,

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Speaker 1: steal this album with two five So if you're not

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Speaker 1: familiar their their literal album is called Steal this album

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Speaker 1: and are still this record and still this album? Right

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Speaker 1: the best buyer or be wherever people we're stealing it

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Speaker 1: as a joke for the most part, and also that's

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Speaker 1: a funny name. Uh Swei put out a song called

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Speaker 1: Crabby Step for the new SpongeBob movie. It's samples music

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Speaker 1: How can I be happy when people are spending me money?

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Speaker 1: and yeah, snyny and I don't feel like a rapper

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Speaker 1: losers credibility for rapping about sponge Bob's for some reason,

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Speaker 1: because SpongeBob culturally is cool meme wise, which kind of

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Speaker 1: that it is. Finally, the Offspring, who you may know

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Speaker 1: from a couple of songs. You gotta keep them separated,

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Speaker 1: or all the girls say, I'm pretty fly for a

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Speaker 1: white guy. They have a song called Christmas Baby, Please

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Speaker 1: Come Home, which is a cover Here you Go, Christmas Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I like The Offspring a lot. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: they played the Studio UM when we were living in Austin,

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Speaker 1: just enough where you knew that's who it was, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I just think when you're older,

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Speaker 1: that's how he sings. Yeah. I've seen Elton John perform

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Speaker 1: and he's lost some of his high and so he

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Speaker 1: has to just sing in a different key. But all right,

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Speaker 1: there you go by the way. New music, no clips,

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Speaker 1: no Young and Crazy Horse have a new live album.

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Speaker 1: Wilco has Summer Teeth Deluxe Edition f C. D Eddie

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Speaker 1: Freaking Loves Wilco. I've never been a Wilco guy. You

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be. I'm a friends listening to him. I

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Speaker 1: never got into him. Yeah, I there's a possibility that

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Speaker 1: I would be based on There's but not. It's just

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Speaker 1: not for me. Like musical vegetables, meaning that you have

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Speaker 1: to like I get something you probably should listen to

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Speaker 1: because it's a great music. You don't want to alter Bridge, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, walked this guy seven songs alter Bridge.

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Speaker 1: If I'm going from a memory, is the Creed band

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Speaker 1: See if alter Bridge, it's got to be the Creedy

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Speaker 1: really I loved it my whole life. Since I was

425
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: three years old. I've been singing in church, but I

426
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: never saw a pathway for it to be possible, you know,

427
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: Like the only time I've ever even been in Nashville,

428
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: like was playing ball. A couple of times we played,

429
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: and I can't remember where we played now, but we

430
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: played somewhere in the Nashville area. But I've never been here,

431
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: like on a trip. You know. I was in Eastern

432
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: to see but Nashville seemed like a lifetime away for

433
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: me back then. You know, I've never been on a plane.

434
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: I just it was just it seems so foreign. But um,

435
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna play ball and then got hurt.

436
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: And then that's when I started writing songs just out

437
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: of sadness. You mentioned. We'll come back to the sadness.

438
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: You mentioned you're a kid at three singing in church.

439
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: But when you were young, to your you also kind

440
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: of took to the fiddle a little bit. Why the fiddle?

441
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: Who played the fiddle around you to make you go

442
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: that's cool? Well, I just really like bluegrass music when

443
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: I was when I was young, you know, coming from

444
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: East Tennessee, especially sneeed Vull area. You know, like Jimmy

445
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: Martin was born there, like the king of bluegrass was

446
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: born where I was born. So it was kind of

447
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: something that's in the culture. And I just I really

448
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: loved it when I was when I was that age,

449
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: and I still like it. From time to time. Um,

450
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm not sure why I chose that

451
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: out of all, you know, out of ban Joe Mandling guitar.

452
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure why because I like all those

453
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: other ones better than now. Still probably not I haven't

454
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 1: picked I don't know the last time I picked one up.

455
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: I still kind of remember, like the hand positions and stuff.

456
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: But it would take me. If you were doing a

457
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: show and you picked up a freaking fiddle and you

458
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: didn't say anything about it and you were like, all right,

459
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: let me, the place would go freaking nuts. Maybe maybe

460
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: I need to think about putting it in there. I

461
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: when I was doing my headlineing thing back and I

462
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: don't even know who that was now, But um, I

463
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: started bringing out a piano in the mid set because

464
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: I really I like to do that too. Um, just

465
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: like kind of a transition, know, get my band a

466
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: break all. I would bring on the opener. Ashland Craft

467
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: was opening for me, and she has a beautiful voice

468
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: and I just like to hear her sing, and she

469
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: would sing a song with me out there and we

470
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: would kind of just do our thing for you know me.

471
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: I would do my thing for probably ten fifteen minutes,

472
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: and she would do a song with me as well,

473
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: and I just I really enjoyed that. I think I'm

474
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing it. So you're you're five, six years old,

475
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: you're kind of messing around on the fiddle a little bit.

476
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: When do you go, all right, I don't think fiddles

477
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: for me. Let me go to a more traditional instrument

478
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: or just sing. When was that? Uh? Well, I figured

479
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: out that I didn't want the fiddle to be for

480
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: me when I started playing ball, and I just it

481
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: didn't seem like the cool thing to do, you know,

482
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: like the shortstopping, don't play fiddle, come on now. So

483
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: I guess I did that for for reasons, not even

484
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: just because of myself. But um, I took piano lessons

485
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: to um around. I think I started doing that when

486
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: I was seven. I started violin when I was five,

487
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: and I started piano when I was seven, and I

488
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: did that for probably two two to three years. So

489
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: I played violin for five and piano for for three,

490
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: with lessons on each. So like I'm classically trained to

491
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: play piano and violin, but I just I just started.

492
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 1: I usually only play piano by ear. Now, who in

493
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: your life though, was motivating you, or at least encouraging

494
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: you to chase music early on. My mama yeah, she

495
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: uh even you know, like it sounds good to try

496
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: to learn something, but then you know, I'm a kid,

497
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to learn something. Then then then you realize, well,

498
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: this is actually kind of it's kind of hard. So

499
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: I was wanting to quit obviously, like you know what

500
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: kids do, and my mom wouldn't let me. And she

501
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: always you know, by the time, you know, once I

502
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: got to be a certain age, she allowed me too.

503
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: She's like, all right, well, if you really want to

504
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: play ball, then focus on ball and get good at that.

505
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: So I did that. But she, while I was, you know,

506
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: still young enough to have a different life other than ball.

507
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: She she really pushed me to do it. And now

508
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: I'm really thinking. She was like, you'll think me one

509
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: day and I'm like, yeah, right, but I do. Yeah,

510
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 1: so people will be surprised to hear you sit down

511
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: at the piano and play what what what do you play?

512
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: I played when I played the UH in my show,

513
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: I played UH, one of my first songs that I

514
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: wrote all my by, all by myself. I didn't even

515
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: know if the song was good or not, but it

516
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: it's ended up doing decently well, like on streaming and

517
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: on all that kind of stuff. So I figured the

518
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: fans really liked it, and I like playing. It's called

519
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: spinning around, um, and then I play you Make It Easier,

520
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: which I wrote with the fdo guys for for al deem,

521
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: I do that one, and then I then I did

522
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: uh just to cover that I did. I was on

523
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: the voice that people kind of like and um, which

524
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: was that how have friend who wrote that with how?

525
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: I really? Yeah, Kevin Griffin, that's cool. So it's an

526
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: I have a piano over the house. This isn't like

527
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: a second house. We should do or done. Take thirty

528
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: seconds to pop over there and play some of that

529
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: on this do you mind? No mind at the keys

530
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: and we can insert it inside of this and it's

531
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: ten steps and then oh you won golf simulator trip

532
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: for doing that. All right, you're in high school, you

533
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: graduate high school, and you think to yourself, are you

534
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: hurt by this point? Play ball? Did you hurt yourself?

535
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: And know well, I got hurt right when my senior

536
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: year was starting, so you didn't even get to fully

537
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: play your senior I got I only got to hit

538
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: twenty games. Um I was. I played picture in shortstop,

539
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: mostly shortstop from my high school team because we didn't

540
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: really have a deep team. There was nobody to play

541
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: shortstop really when I pitched or some or you know,

542
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: somebody could play shore. But then the third basement, nobody

543
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: could play third, so we had to you know, consolidate.

544
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, that that happened, and you know, kind

545
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: of I just didn't really get a chance to prove

546
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: myself like I like I wanted, you know, and I

547
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: had a couple offers and they disappeared. Um but look,

548
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: you know that, and that I had putting put some

549
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: I played ball since I was four, so I had

550
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: put you know, fourteen years of competitive ball to like.

551
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: Once I got to be eleven, we started traveling my parents,

552
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, they how good were you? I was good man.

553
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: I could have definitely played in college, but you know,

554
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I wasn't like that good. And honestly,

555
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: as much as I played, I didn't try as hard

556
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: as I could have either. I was just from a

557
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: young age I was naturally gifted at it. So it

558
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: was almost like a curse for me too, because I

559
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: just I was always better than the kids when I was,

560
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: you know, eight, nineteen eleven, twelve, thirteen, and so I

561
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: figured out, I don't even gotta try, you know, I

562
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: don't even really gotta practice that hard. And I just

563
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: kind of kept that same mentality up through high school.

564
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: And once you get to high school, it's not even

565
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: you do have to have natural abilities. But some of

566
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: those kids that I used to be like or they

567
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: were not as nearly as good as me, they worked

568
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: their butt off and they, you know, they're in the

569
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: pros now. So it's like it really is a lot

570
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: about work, and I didn't I didn't have that work

571
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: ethic back down. I was talking to Jamison Rogers few

572
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: days ago talking about that the soft softball league that

573
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: are you are you playing with that? Did you guys

574
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: win that? No? I actually only got to play in

575
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: three games. I didn't even get to end up getting

576
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: to play. Um we had this championship was supposed to

577
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: be this past Monday, but I was back home when

578
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: seeing my dad, So I just I just didn't even

579
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: get it they win because he left here going No,

580
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: they didn't win. They they didn't even make it to

581
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: the championship game. How do they? How do you not?

582
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: It's all college ex college players. I don't, I don't know.

583
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure because I'll tell you this. Every game

584
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: I played and we won. That's all I know. Ahead. Yeah,

585
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: I'm still here. I'm I'm a little rusty on hit.

586
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm still pretty good a fielding though I was playing

587
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: short out there. I don't. I always like defense better

588
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: I like hitting anyway. So you finished high school, But

589
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: if you were sixteen year old Morgan, does he want

590
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: to play ball or does he want to play music?

591
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: When did it happen? Where you go? All? Right? Now?

592
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: I think I really want to play music. Was it

593
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: when ball was no longer an option? Yeah? I mean

594
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't even like I didn't even say, all right,

595
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: well ball is not an option, I'm gonna play music.

596
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: It was like, damn, the most important thing in my

597
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: life I thought was gone. And I've always liked music.

598
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: I've always like words, you know, I've I wrote rhunds

599
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: and and poems and stuff growing up. I always enjoyed that.

600
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: So I figured, well, all the feelings that I'm feeling,

601
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just try to make some kind of music

602
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: just too almost like a therapy for me. You know.

603
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: I started writing all my parents workout bits in their

604
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: in their garage, Yeah, and write in their garage. I

605
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: remember always walking out my mom. She would always be

606
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: in the kitchen cooking or whatever, and I'd walk straight

607
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: into the kitchen and so here I just wrote this

608
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: what you think you know? And uh, that's when it started, man,

609
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: And I just developed a love for a SONGWRT enough

610
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: for just the craft of of creating something and just

611
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: to help me get through something. That's really what it

612
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: started as. It was never like a oh I'm gonna

613
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: be a rock star now, you know? Did you think though,

614
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: when you're writing music wherever you are at home? And

615
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: this is before you moved to Nashville's before you you

616
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: went an audition for the Voice, Well, what did you

617
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: think you wanted to do? Was it moved to Nashville eventually?

618
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Was it? I don't. I mean, I don't know where

619
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: your mind is at this time. Man. I when I

620
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: went on the Voice, I was either twenty one and

621
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: I didn't really know, man, I didn't. I didn't know.

622
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I just knew that I didn't me as a person.

623
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it took to even get someone

624
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: to listen. You know. Um, I didn't even know that

625
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: much about Nashville. I just my mom signed me up

626
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: for the Voice too. I didn't even know what the

627
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: voice was, that's honest to go. So what does she

628
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: say to you? Just she says, Morgan, we're gonna do

629
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: this show or what. Basically, she's like, you know, you've

630
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: been writing and singing and you're really good at it. Um,

631
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: I signed you up for the Voice, and I'll drive

632
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: you if you want to go. And uh, we drove

633
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: to St. Louis and um man, there was a bunch

634
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: of people there. I don't even know how many people there,

635
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: you know. We it was in the arena in the St.

636
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: Louis Billikins or whatever they are um arena and they call,

637
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, you shit out in the actual stands or whatever,

638
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: and then they call you and you walk down and

639
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: then go kind of backstage, you know, like back in

640
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: the in the locker rooms and stuff. And I was

641
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: in one of the locker rooms singing for the producer

642
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: and there was like twenty other people or something. They

643
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: give you like a verse in course or something like that,

644
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: and they asked me to stay out of all of them.

645
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: So I stayed and I went back home. They asked

646
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: me to come to St. Louis, and a couple of

647
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: days later went back. Made it through that one. Uh

648
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: what do you think are you? Are you even nervous

649
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: about it? Are you just like, you know, if it

650
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: works out good? I wasn't that nervous. Yeah, I mean

651
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: to an extent, you know, like I've never been around

652
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: all these bright lights and all these people and that

653
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but not really like because it wasn't

654
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: some kind of big, huge plan, you know for me,

655
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I put all my cards in this, you know.

656
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like, all right, let's let's

657
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: see what happens. And that's one of the things I

658
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: remember about once we actually made it onto the show.

659
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: All the people, all the other contestants, you know, they're like, god,

660
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is this is my chance. You know,

661
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: they're all fired up and like they're like what about you?

662
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: Like my mom telling me, They're like what. So I

663
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: will always remember them being so just shocked though that

664
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: that was my attitude towards it. But I don't know,

665
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: I just I've always felt pretty comfortable in my in

666
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: my own skin pretty much anywhere you've finished the voice

667
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: you didn't win, right, No, not even close. So I

668
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: didn't even make it. I made it to top twenty.

669
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: What what what are you doing at top twenty of

670
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: the boys? Like are you just singing? You get the

671
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: judges chairs turned around for you though? Right? Yeah, I

672
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: made it past the blind audition. Um who who flipped over?

673
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I actally I don't know anyth about the boys because

674
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: I working American idols. I'm acting so dumb, like what

675
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to be? So Shakira and Usher right, um,

676
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: which they didn't show it this way on television, but

677
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: those those were the only two spots left. I went

678
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: there was like five five days of tryouts, and I

679
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: was on the very last day. At the very end

680
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: of the very last day. I thought for a while

681
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even get to try out because some of

682
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: the people out there didn't even get to try out

683
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: because the team's filled up before they got a chance.

684
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Um some of the A couple of those people are

685
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: in Nashville now that I that I met out there.

686
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: Um seth Ennis was one of them, and um man,

687
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: I you know they that sow those two had had

688
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: a chair, so they turned around. I was happy about that.

689
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: My mom, uh said you not not at this point? Um?

690
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah. She's with me at the blind audition.

691
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: But before we went, I was like, all right, I

692
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: don't know anything about this show. Who you think who

693
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: should be my coach if I get a chance? She

694
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: said Usher, So I said, all right, I'm gonna pick usherly.

695
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: So I picked Usher and uh then I had a

696
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: battle and he like he he picked the other guy

697
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: went against and then Adam put me on his team,

698
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: stole me, and uh then the top twenty. I think

699
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: it was still decided by by them and I tried

700
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: to because they really wanted me to be a pop singer,

701
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: like pretty hard, and I didn't really but I was

702
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: also young, and I was like, I don't really know.

703
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys are right. I don't know. It's not

704
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: really what the kind of songs are, right, not really

705
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: what I am. But if you guys, you guys, you know,

706
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I thought these yeah, yeah, you guys think I should be.

707
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I should be. And uh, finally, once he got

708
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: the top twenty, I was like, man, I really don't

709
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: want to sing this kind of music. I'm I'm gonna

710
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: sing country music. And the only song that was on

711
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: there that was a country song was for the Georgia line.

712
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: It was Stay. I really didn't sing it that well.

713
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: I really didn't do it that well. Um, I was

714
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: still kind of figuring out my voice and and you know,

715
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: just growing up man, and uh, because I would really

716
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: had a probably a more raspier of was then because

717
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I forced it and didn't really realize it. And I

718
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: was still trying to figure that out. So I really

719
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: didn't sing that song that well. And that's when they

720
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: got so I understand why they didn't keep me on there.

721
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: So that's when I that's when I got booted. And

722
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: but luckily, you know, it was like if i'd have

723
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: made it another step, they would have had maybe part

724
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: in my career and things like that. So it was

725
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: really a blessing. So are you destroyed whenever you get

726
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: kicked off the show or you're like, hey, that was cool,

727
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: But now I have a little confidence. That's exactly right,

728
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: because you know, I try to be pretty self aware

729
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: and and what I just told you about me not

730
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: crushing that performance, I knew that then too, So I

731
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: I you know, I was a little bit upset and

732
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: myself for not crushing it. But I also didn't necessarily

733
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: know why I didn't crush it, so it was it

734
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: was me trying to figure that out. So I wasn't

735
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: mad at myself for failing. I was just trying to

736
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: figure out what why did I fail? And you know,

737
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: I think that really pushed me to get better as

738
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: a vocalist and as a you know, just as a

739
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: as a singer. So, um no, I didn't. I did

740
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: not freak out. It was just I mean, there was

741
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of scared and worried this. You know're like, well,

742
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: now what I do. I gotta go back to Knoxville

743
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: and move in with my parents again, and and who

744
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: knows what after that. Um, but you know, obviously it

745
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: turned out okay. So you met Sergio Sanchez, he was

746
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: your vocal coach and was he living here? No, man,

747
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: no he he uh Sergio? Um yeah, I owe a

748
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: lot to him too, man. Um my mom. So like

749
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: whenever we I can't remember exactly at what point during

750
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: the show, but they get let they let us come

751
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: home for a couple of months and right before the

752
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: live shows, I guess or whatever. So we gotta. We

753
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: had a couple of months break and they strongly advised

754
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: us to get a vocal coach while we were home.

755
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: And I ain't never had a vocal coach, you know.

756
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't, I don't know. I just

757
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: I guess it could help. So my mom was looking

758
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, I found this guy, Sergio Sanchez.

759
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: He you know, he's a former rock guy. I found

760
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: all these other classical guys. But I don't know, I

761
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: don't know if that's what you want, you know, like,

762
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: that's not really what what how you sing? So I

763
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: found this guy. My mom found this guy, and I

764
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: went and he was actually uh he had started like

765
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: a bakery business. He had he had a know what

766
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: exactly what it was called. I'm sorry, Sergio, if you're listening,

767
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I remember that it was called. It was

768
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: called fit Sweets, is what it was called. And I

769
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: think he actually ended up one of the things that

770
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: he has, he ended up selling a bit of it here.

771
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: He actually did okay with it. Um. But that's where

772
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: we would go. He was just starting that that that

773
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: little storefront up and we'd go in the back room

774
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: of there and just uh, kind of singing. Then he

775
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: was like, man, he he's he told me from from

776
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: uh that after what we met for the first time,

777
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: he called another guy that he knew and he said, dude,

778
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: I think I just met the next like the next guy.

779
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: And they're like, what do you mean? You know whatever?

780
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: But he's always from day one believed to me. And

781
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: and uh we started writing songs together and getting some

782
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: demos done. And he used to be in a rock

783
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: band called Adam Smashed and they were signed to Atlantic Records,

784
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: and you know there he's a legit singer and legit

785
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: music music musician and um man, he he I owe

786
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: a lot to him, man, he he really he pushed

787
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: me as well to to write songs into to keep going.

788
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: So when you guys did Morgan Wallen and them shadows,

789
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: how come it wasn't Morgan and Sergio? I mean he

790
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: trust you to meybe? Was he that much on team

791
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Morgan Wallon? He was, Man, I mean, you know, I

792
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: think there was still a little bit of a part

793
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: of him. I'm I'm imagining. I don't know, I'm just

794
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: thinking if it was me and you know, I've been

795
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: through a record deal and we got dropped and then

796
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: you you meet some other guy. I'm trying to put

797
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: myself in those shoes. I'm sure that I would have

798
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: to swallow that a little bit, you know. And and

799
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: but he never he never really made me feel that way.

800
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: He was always you cheering me on and and and uh,

801
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: I really respect him for that. Here's a clip of

802
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: Young Yang Girl from Morgan Wallen and the Shadows. So

803
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: all right, you're shopping music around talent at this point,

804
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: right because you well know, no, this is before we've

805
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: even got to Nashville. Oh, this is um, this isn't

806
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: back home. Yeah, well now I recorded him in Florida, actually,

807
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: so one of the guys that he knew who had

808
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: helped him get a record deal was a producer more

809
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: in the rock world. And uh, he was like, hey,

810
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: we can record some songs or some demos or whatever,

811
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go down earned do it. So that's

812
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: what we did. We went to Florida. And this is

813
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: before I'd even before I'd even moved to Nashville yet.

814
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: So it's kid to move to Nashville. You got a

815
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: guy that says, hey, I kind of got your back

816
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: if you come out here. What does that even mean though,

817
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: because listen, I'm from a small town in Arkansas. I

818
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: was broke, and it's like you've got nothing to lose

819
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: because you're not losing anything. I was about to say

820
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I was already broke, So yeah, I just moved cities

821
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: and broken. So you and what kind of place do

822
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: you move into? Uh me and actually me and my

823
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: guitar player dominic, which you've met. We've been in the

824
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: studio with you before, um he, uh me and him

825
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: moving got an apartment in Mount Julia and in in

826
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Century Providence is where we lived, um for for a

827
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: while for a couple of years, I guess. And uh Man,

828
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: my my band, they've everybody except for Sergiyo was not

829
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: my band anymore. It wasn't anything, uh you know, harmed

830
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: for we had a good split. He he just got

831
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: married and wanted to be at home, you know. And

832
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: so he's the only one I've replaced in my band.

833
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: I still have the same band. They all moved here

834
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: with me for me, and um man, they're there. I

835
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: have them to think a lot too. Isn't it great

836
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: that you get to like take them along on a

837
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: journey and they kind of get to create their own

838
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: journeys too. They are they are right now and I

839
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: love to see it, you know, it's it's a it's

840
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: a cool thing to to be a part of. And

841
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: they're like my they're like my family. I don't get

842
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: to see them as much right now, and that that

843
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: that part sucks. But I think they know that I

844
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: root for him and whatever whatever they end up doing

845
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: on their own tool. When you signed with Big Loud,

846
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: did were you in demand where lots of folks are

847
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: trying to sign you or it was a Big Loud

848
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: like the one and I don't know. I didn't. I didn't.

849
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: I took a meeting with Big Loud. Um, So what

850
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: happened is Kevin Neil, who the guy who originally told

851
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: me to ask me to move here. I was sending

852
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: my demos around town and ended up one of them

853
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: ended up getting into Seth Seth in England's hand. And

854
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: I was not even looking for a record deal really,

855
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: I was just looking for some co rits to try

856
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: to try to get to be a better songwriter, just

857
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, get better songs and learn stuff from these people.

858
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: And Um, Seth got it and was like, what's up

859
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: with this kid? Um is he looking for a record deal,

860
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I mean that's not I

861
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't asking you for one, but yeah, eventually

862
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna be looking for one, you know. Um

863
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: So I went in there and played for for him,

864
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: Joey and Craig Joey Moy and Craig Wiseman. UM played

865
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: a few, played like two of my own songs, and

866
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: then I sang uh Talladega by Eric Church, and I raised,

867
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: I jacked the key up real high. Figured out might

868
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: as well try to try to show off a little bit,

869
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, I could tell that they that

870
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: got their attention, and they were just they I don't know, man,

871
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: we just all kind of missed and and I feel

872
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: like they understood me from that first day that I

873
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: met him. And uh so the next week I went

874
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: in and played for the conference room for the whole

875
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: staff at that time. You know, we wasn't even that

876
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: many people. I think they still I'll sit at the

877
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: table at that point, and uh I played, I played.

878
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I kind of think I did the same same set

879
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: a little three songs or four three or four songs.

880
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: UM did that, and you know, I I went around

881
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: and shook everybody's hand and met everybody, you know, Like

882
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: that's what I was, That's what I was thought to do.

883
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: That's just what you do when you meet somebody, you know,

884
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: you kind of talked to everybody in the room, and

885
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: they were they were like after I left, they were

886
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: like shocked by that. I was like, what was that?

887
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Not normal? You know? But I remember that for some reason.

888
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: And uh then the week after that, they offered me

889
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: a record deal and I just didn't go nowhere else.

890
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know, and I don't

891
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: know why. Looking back now, it's like this record label

892
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: has not proven anything at all. They haven't done anything,

893
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: not a damn thing. But uh, obviously Joey Moore was

894
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: very you know, successful in the rock world. But at

895
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: that point and with F g L and I knew

896
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: a little bit about SETH, knew a little bit about

897
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Obviously Craig's a great songwriter, but that doesn't mean that

898
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: they know how to do anything with radio. So I

899
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I just I'm I'm pretty big

900
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: off gut instincts a lot of times when it comes

901
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: to stuff like that, and I just had a real

902
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: piece man. I prayed and talked to my parents, and

903
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: I just had a real big piece about them, and

904
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: I just never looked anywhere else. And so you start

905
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: off with the EP, They're going, we're gonna put a

906
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: few songs out first. Were they basing anything off the

907
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: success of the EP or were they just going, we're

908
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: gonna kind of put your foot in the water, and

909
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: then while we're doing that, we're gonna make the big records, right, Yeah,

910
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: the plan it was, Yeah, they they and I and

911
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: I knew that it might be a little slower just

912
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: based off who they were, but I just really believed

913
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: in them and the things that they that they stand

914
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: for and believe in, and just their work ethic and

915
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: I just really they just, I don't know, they just

916
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: had a different I'd still you know, I'd still done

917
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of studying on the labels and that

918
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and I knew about the other ones,

919
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know, man, I just felt like I

920
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: was really gonna be a priority. I knew that, and

921
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: I really had one other artists they had, Chris Lane

922
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: was the first one they signed, And uh, I don't know,

923
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: they just have a different way of doing things, you know,

924
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: it's like a it's a unique label in town. And um, yeah,

925
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. We've been we but they back to

926
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: the EP. Yeah, they that's what they said. You know,

927
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: like this may work, it may not. You know, we're

928
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: we're learning with you. We're still building these relationships. We're

929
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: working on it, like we know these people, but we

930
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: got to prove ourselves too. So I knew that it

931
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: might take a while, and I knew that there was

932
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: a bigger project coming. Do you have a mullet then? No?

933
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: I did not actually had long hair, just regular long

934
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: hair then. And I remember you from having a regular

935
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: long hair, you look like a poet. You look like

936
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: a guy doing slam poets. It was not it was

937
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: not the move for sure, definitely, But when you cut

938
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: the mullet, because I credit you to the entire country

939
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: music mullet world, you were the first one that said, hey,

940
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: this is just what it is. Now. Everybody does that

941
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, but honest to God, and I'm not

942
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: just blowing smoke every buck as you're here. You were

943
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: the first one to kind of bring it back and

944
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: make it cool again. Back. Yeah, I'll say I didn't

945
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: invent it. I mean, yeah, but I'm saying that the

946
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: next generation of country guys, even some of the older

947
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: guys that are being funny and cutting, it's all because

948
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: of you. You know that, right. I got a pretty

949
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: good feeling that I definitely had a good part in it.

950
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Why why did you cut them all in? And did

951
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: you expect it to last? Uh? Well, I had a

952
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: after I cut my long hair. I kind of just

953
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: had a haircut, you know. And as as I remember,

954
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: Stacy at CMT told me one time, he was like,

955
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: you can usually tell if you can look at a

956
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: silhouette of a person, you can usually tell that's them.

957
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't know if you could

958
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: do that with me right now. So I started thinking,

959
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I couldn't really didn't really think anything.

960
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, well whatever, I'm just gonna to

961
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: let my music speak for itself, I guess. And then

962
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 1: I went back home to uh my parents on Easter.

963
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: I guess it was three years ago. Now, maybe maybe

964
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: you have three I think. And uh, I was looking

965
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: through a photo album of my parents when I got married.

966
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: My dad had a mullet, and uh, me and him

967
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: look a lot of like we're just a lot of

968
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: like in general. And he was twenty five when he

969
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: got married, and I was twenty five at the time,

970
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: so I guess not even three years almost three years ago,

971
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: and uh I was either five whatever. I was around

972
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: the same age as him. Like, well, Dad, you look

973
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: pretty good in that. If if you can do that,

974
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I can do that. I'm gonna wear a mullet. He

975
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: was like, all right, man, I don't. He probably didn't

976
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: believe me or whatever. But I went back and told

977
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Amy Amy Cruise is my Amy George julas Now is

978
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: her last name. I knew her when she was Amy Cruise,

979
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: but um she I told her. I said, hey, Amy,

980
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: I think I think I know what her could. I

981
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: want to think I'm gonna get a mullet. She was

982
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: like really, I said yeah, and she was awful. She's

983
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: like yeah yeah. So I'm like all right, cool, And

984
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: then you know my label management there they I tell

985
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: him I'm getting one, like what, no, please, God no,

986
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, y'all know what happens when you'll tell

987
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: me no, I'm gonna do exactly the opposite of that.

988
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: So I did. I grew it, and uh I did not.

989
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: But I didn't expect it. It wasn't like I had

990
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: forgotten about the whole silhouette thing at that point. It

991
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like I didn't expect it to become a thing.

992
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to show up at shows and dudes

993
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: are wearing mullets and cut off flannels. I just I

994
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I just liked how it look

995
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: and and and uh, Herry, we are, Yeah, that's I mean,

996
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: that's what I know, isn't it you? And because it's

997
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: such a lasting first impression. But again, much like up down,

998
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: it's like you're the mullet guy. That's how you get

999
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: in the door. But then you kind of open your

1000
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: rib cage up and you're like, this is the rest

1001
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: of me, Like the mullet gets you in the heart

1002
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: is what makes you last. Right, Yeah, And that's a

1003
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: good way to put it. I've never thought of it

1004
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: that way. But you know, people, whether they like it

1005
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: or they hate it, they're still gonna say that's a mullet,

1006
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: you know. Well, and I wear really darker un glasses.

1007
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm just a generic white guy, right, I really am

1008
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: just another generic white And so I was going, well,

1009
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I can't see what can I do to make me

1010
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: stand out because I always thought if someone could draw

1011
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: a character of you pretty easily, that means that what

1012
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: you're doing stands it. So I was like, I'm just

1013
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: gonna have a big, darker un glasses and that's where

1014
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: that comes from. Kind of the same idea about the silhouette. Yeah,

1015
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just never forget Stacy saying that to me. Man.

1016
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: He said that. I was like, that's a good point, man,

1017
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: because I hate there was there was like a picture

1018
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: of it, so luettes or I don't even know if

1019
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: it was a picture like a piece of art or something,

1020
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: but there was people and I knew them all from

1021
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: the back, not even from the front, from the back,

1022
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: and uh, I made me think a little. So I've

1023
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: always remembered that the first show I went to yours,

1024
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: I was at Marathon music work and at a bunch

1025
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: of it was like during radio one of those radio seminars,

1026
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: and I don't do a lot of that stuff, but

1027
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: I was in talent for that maybe, so yeah, and

1028
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: a couple of guys like, hey, you're in town, come

1029
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: come to Morrigan Wallen show. And I was like, I'm

1030
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest with Yeah, I was like, I

1031
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: was like, he making to be there, and they were

1032
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: like they're like yeah. I was like, I know like

1033
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: two of the songs. Um, yeah, I'll go just because

1034
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: I want to see you guys. And I go and

1035
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: it is packed to the guild and you freaking blew there.

1036
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, man, like I missed on.

1037
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: I missed on knowing how great you were early. Well

1038
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: you I mean, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, I see

1039
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: a lot of acts. That's what I about to say.

1040
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: Whether whether whether I'm great or not, you get you

1041
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: get swamped with. But I still missed. I still missed.

1042
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: And I'm usually pretty good. And I'm telling you that

1043
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: to your face, like I'm missed. And I was like,

1044
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about what were they gonna be thirty

1045
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: people there and I get there, I can't even move.

1046
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: They had to put us in like a little cage

1047
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: to make sure nobody did. Yeah, it was phenomenal. And

1048
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: and you came and you played the st Judo last

1049
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: year and I was just like, god, damn man, this

1050
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: guy is so good. And then you know, so your record.

1051
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: What's crazy about it is like it comes out and

1052
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: does well, but it's it's the biggest snow slow building

1053
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: snowball I've ever seen. It's wild. It was like I

1054
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: can't even remember. It was like a hundred in something

1055
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: weeks after that it finally made it to number one

1056
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: on like on Billboard for like it was like a

1057
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: hundred seventeen weeks or something wild like it. Are you

1058
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: feeling it now where it's like, I know you're not

1059
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: going to use the word, but just for the fort

1060
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: sake of conversation, are you feeling it now where you

1061
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: kind of like I can actually feel some of the

1062
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: superstardom or did it hit you like this or was

1063
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: it kind of like slow? I think you hit me

1064
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: an out of Mamma about six weeks ago. Well, what's

1065
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: funny about that, too, is like I I've probably on

1066
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: TikTok when you sing straight into TikTok, Yeah, I think

1067
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: it blows people's socks off because you're so freaking good

1068
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: you and I don't think people expect force like a

1069
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: country boy like yourself with a mullet to just sound

1070
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: so good. Probably not. And then I would see this

1071
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: is way before the Alabama stuff. I would see you

1072
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: were worshiped on TikTok there was just a culture of

1073
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: and I would get them all and I'd be like,

1074
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: why am I watching these girls? I'm talking about how

1075
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: much they love Morgan waugh Man, and I swiped away

1076
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: from him. I didn't want to spend too much time watching.

1077
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I well, I kind of realized that about

1078
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: TikTok once the Seven Summers thing happened, because I didn't

1079
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: even really know what TikTok was. Whenever that whole thing happened,

1080
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: because I Ja jakeo On had nominated me for a

1081
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: demo challenge on Instagram, like remember when everybody's doing those

1082
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: challenges at the beginning of Quarantine just to keep you know,

1083
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: we thought it was gonna be a little month or whatever.

1084
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: This will be fun. Eight months later channeling, I haven't

1085
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: seen any challenges lately, have y'all? Uh, But you know,

1086
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: somebody I guess screen grabbed it and put it on

1087
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: TikTok and somebody from my team I can't remember feel

1088
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Set or tracker, but I said, hey, have you seen

1089
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: what's going on with with TikTok, And like TikTok, I

1090
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: really didn't even know what it was, and they said, yeah,

1091
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: it's a new app, and somebody's got on there. You know,

1092
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: they've got seven summers are using that sound by a lot.

1093
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's interesting because I originally put

1094
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: that sound bite out on my Instagram to gauge if

1095
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: I even wanted to cut the song or not. I

1096
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't even know if I was gonna record it. And

1097
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: um so I was like, all right, that's cool, you

1098
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: know whatever. A couple of weeks ago by they're like, dude,

1099
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: this thing is like really going off on there. I'm like, well,

1100
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: don't you guys think we might need to put it

1101
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: out then, you know if it's doing that. So we

1102
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: went and recorded it, and I think it had like

1103
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: thirty million hits on there or something before it every

1104
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: even came out. So I started like being like, man,

1105
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: this could be a real tool we could use for

1106
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: for music and trying to drop people to their new music. So,

1107
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: um man, I just started you know, leaking a demo

1108
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: on my Instagram ever so often, or you know, playing

1109
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: an acoustic thing on my Instagram. And I didn't even

1110
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: have to post it on TikTok. They would just do it,

1111
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: and um just you know, just giving little pieces of

1112
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: stuff and and and I did that without asking, you know,

1113
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: the first couple of times they're like, dude, what do

1114
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: you do? What are you doing? But these songs out

1115
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: and then they you know, they kind of were they

1116
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: were like, well, they didn't get mad at me. Actually

1117
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: my team, they're they're they're so good and understanding. They

1118
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't get mad. But there, you know, they

1119
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask or ask a questions what do you do?

1120
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: But so I told them and they're like, all right,

1121
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: that's cool, that's a good idea. So we just kept,

1122
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of just continued to do it

1123
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then somebody is like leaking some

1124
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: demos that I don't even know where they came from.

1125
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't even have it. I don't even have the demos.

1126
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know where they even came from that are

1127
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: on there. But uh, the ones that I lead can

1128
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: put on my Instagram that we I like to do that.

1129
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to get people's hopes up for that, and

1130
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: then you know, drop them soon after, hopefully on TikTok.

1131
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: You're a lower case of g God for sure. And

1132
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: and somehow I see all these girls just like guys

1133
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: get over it, Like I don't even want to see

1134
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: them anymore. It's great, it's great. I love I love

1135
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: that how your fan base was organically created, and just

1136
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: because you brought it up, and I'll only ask a

1137
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: few more questions. It's like I'm enjoining. When the Alabama

1138
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: stuff happened, I was like, Yeay's get off his jock,

1139
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I understand the COVID stuff too, but

1140
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you want from this guy?

1141
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: He's twenty seven years old. People were just having fun.

1142
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I get it, but I also

1143
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: I understand both sides of it a little bit, you know.

1144
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: I know, I got I know that I got young

1145
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: kids that look up to me and all those kind

1146
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: of things too. So I do want to be mindful

1147
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: of things. I'm not gonna let people control the way

1148
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: I live my life, but I do also want to

1149
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: be mindful. And honestly, I have I have a son now,

1150
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know that i'd be proud to show

1151
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: him those videos. You know, I'm like, I gotta think

1152
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: about some things a little bit differently, and honestly, I

1153
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: have I have been in you know, throughout this whole process,

1154
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: there's been times where for a while, I would just

1155
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: be like, man, I'm really I'm kind of like lonely

1156
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I even like this, and

1157
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: and then you know, there's and then there's another high

1158
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, yeah, I love this, you know,

1159
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: and it just kind of goes goes to phases and

1160
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: I kind of just have been living like that, you know,

1161
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't know, can I not maybe

1162
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: do something to combat that. Maybe you don't have to

1163
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: be so moody, you know. So it was almost a

1164
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: good thing for me, you know. It kind of forced

1165
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: me away and just to kind of reflect and look

1166
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: at myself and kind of get to know myself again.

1167
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: And it was good for me. So I took like

1168
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: a while, like almost two weeks, and just turned my

1169
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: phone off and just didn't didn't even look at it,

1170
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, drove on the track care of things like

1171
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: that and just clear my head. And uh, that was

1172
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: it was really really good for me. So I don't

1173
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't really love the circumstances that led to that,

1174
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: but I'm thankful for for where it leave me. And

1175
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: my only point was you were living your life. You're

1176
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: gonna have to You're gonna have to learn somehow what

1177
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: you like, what you don't like. And I was just like,

1178
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: let's let the guy you weren't doing any illegal, like,

1179
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: let the guy live his life. But I was vocally

1180
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: pro you live in your life. I appreciate that man. So,

1181
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, I had a very similar situation. I'm just

1182
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: now getting married in April. I've never been married on

1183
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: how many kids. But I was struggling with being single

1184
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: and Tyler and Florida Georgia Lyne ty pulled me to

1185
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: the coffee shop. Was like, dude, you're kind of spiraling.

1186
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: It was a different spiral. My spiral was straight loneliness,

1187
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: and I just could not. I was like, my thing

1188
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: was a ratio of loneliness to happiness. That's where and

1189
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I would I would have some hit and I'd feel great,

1190
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: but then because I'd be I do a stand up

1191
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: show and I feel so loved on stage, but then

1192
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: you go back to your hotel room and you're just like,

1193
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: well this sucks. It's so easy to base your feelings

1194
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: off of what other people think, because that's what the

1195
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: that's my job. You know. It's like I pour my

1196
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: heart and soul into this. I really want these people

1197
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: to like it, and damn they do like it. You know,

1198
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: they do like me. That's awesome. And then but you

1199
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: start chasing that, you know, that's what that's You start

1200
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: wanting that, feeling it all the time and more and more. Yeah,

1201
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: it's like it's almost like a drug. Just keep on.

1202
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: You know, that feels good. I like it when people

1203
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: like me. I mean, who don't. And I've always been

1204
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: the type of guy I really want to make everyone

1205
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: around me have a good time and feel good. That's

1206
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: like I love that. I don't I want people to

1207
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: to love me. I just always have. UM. So it's

1208
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's it's a catch twenty two.

1209
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're gonna go back and do SNL.

1210
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: Do they think you'll They originally told me that they

1211
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: were gonna invite me back. If they do, I'll go

1212
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. I hate the situation that happened for you.

1213
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 1: But I think if if I'm standing back ten feet

1214
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: for your career one, I think you learned a lot

1215
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: from it. But too, it was great. I saw you

1216
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: pop up on the E news feed. You crossed over

1217
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: into the news because of this. People were sending me

1218
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: like litte screenshots whatever, like we've never heard of this

1219
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: guy before. I'm like, well that's good. Yeah, you know,

1220
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want you to go through it again. However,

1221
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: it takes, it takes some deep valleys to to to

1222
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: understand how hard it is to climb the tall mountains.

1223
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: And it's not even you know, it's not even gonna

1224
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: be the lowest. We're gonna go through so many highs

1225
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: and lows. But I'm proud of you, man, Thank you.

1226
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. I'm I'm just I'm just such

1227
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: a big fan too, and I'm not someone who claims

1228
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: to be there from the start, you know, I'm like, hey,

1229
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: what the heck is this guy doing? I don't I

1230
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: was the hardest fun to convince. I can't even say

1231
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: I blame you, man. I came out, I came out

1232
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: of the gate with songs that weren't even my personal favorite,

1233
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: So you know, I I understand. Chasing you just still

1234
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: my favorite. Uh. Seven Summers. The weird thing about the

1235
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: Seven Summers and more than my hometown is they kind

1236
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: of are running alongside each other, which is rare. They're

1237
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: both on top thirty of the chart. I think hometown

1238
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: is almost it's in top three right now. Maybe I

1239
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: believe top three. I think they go what is today

1240
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: the fifth? They told me they were going for number

1241
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: one on starting pushing spins on theft. So and you

1242
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: already have a song it's number or something. Yeah, yeah, dude,

1243
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. And you know, like we were talking

1244
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: about the TikTok thing earlier, I knew I had a

1245
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: good feeling in that seven Summers would come out out

1246
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: of the gate, you know, pretty strong, definitely not as

1247
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: strong as it did. Had no idea it was gonna

1248
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: do any of that stuff. I would have worried that

1249
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: it was gonna take Spins off of I did have

1250
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: that worry. I did have that worry. But like we

1251
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't even we didn't even plan on putting that out

1252
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: as a single. It was almost forced upon us, like

1253
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: people were just playing it. So we're like, well, if

1254
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: these people are plunting, they're plointing. Maybe we just started

1255
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: making a single and my I mean my label. And

1256
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, I asked him every week of Michae yeo,

1257
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm mad at me. Yet you're having to work two singles.

1258
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: I know that's got to be a pain, but they

1259
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: obviously I think they're pretty happy about it too, and

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00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 1: they work really hard and they're doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well I'm done with you, but are you

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00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: sure you don't mind walking over the house? Mind? We can?

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00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: I want to play it on this It don't be

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00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: like thirty seconds. I think people would be playing. I

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00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: ain't playing the piano. About a month. We'll try, all right,

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: Morgan walland we're gonna go. But the next thing you

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: hear is us walking over to the house and doing

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: it over there by that earlier. That's it. That's it

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Speaker 1: on right now is new artist Harper Gray. She has

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00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: a new song called Muddy Water. I want to play

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: a clip of this right now, me jesus my fancy dress. Harper,

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you? I'm really good?

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: You know. I had reached out to Harper when before

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: COVID got weird again. I was like, we can have

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: a softball team because she's like a nine sports star.

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: Well we're still when we do in spring, if we can,

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: I still want you to play with us, if you can.

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: You still you still down? All in all in, I'm ready,

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Speaker 1: So you're you're athletic history. You were you played softball

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00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: and basketball, right, softball and swimming, okay, so were you

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00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: good at both of those? I was swimming with my

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00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: main sport until I had three shoulder surgery, so that

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00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: was actually my like my main you know, waking up

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00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: doing two a days at age twelve four, and then

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00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: softball was my my off season sport. But I was

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00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: pretty good at it, so I ended up playing in

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Speaker 1: college until I had my fourth shoulder surgery. Shoulders you

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00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: do your parents have mess up shoulders? I honestly that

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: every doctor kept saying, this is genetics. It was my big,

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00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: my first big lesson of knowing your limits, because I

1291
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: also was a kid that was like, no, I'm gonna push,

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: I gonna go, I'm gonna do because I wanted to

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00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: be the best. So I think it was a mix

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00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: of genetics and then me also not knowing when to

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: stop at an early age. Well, now I'm scared to

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: play softall whether you're gonna blow out your shoulder again,

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I wonna be on the hook for that. I won't

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: blow out my shoulder, but I will be competitive, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's what we like. Hey, So tell me about the

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: song here? Because you know, I heard it. We're we're

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01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: playing it on you know, the women of my Heart

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: Country tell me about Muddy Water. Yes, thank you guys

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01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: so much to for your support. Um. Muddy Water came

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: about where I was, you know, in a space right

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01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: before quarantine and I was about to go out on

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: tour and I was like, I really want to write

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: that song and I can perform. That's talking about, you know,

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01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: owning who you are and being unafraid to own who

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01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: you are, and like if you have a crazy back story.

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: I always saying, my my story is kind of like

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: a lifetime movie on steroids. But owning it, you know,

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: and let your drive and your work ethic and your

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01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: hard work be what speaks for you. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Muddy Water is all about. I always gravitated towards, you know,

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01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: water in general as a kid. I loved I grew

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01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: up in near the Chattahoochee River and just like ponds

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: and lakes, and even though those water the water was

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01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: like not like the ocean where it looks crisp and clean,

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: it still felt very clean to me. So I wanted

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Speaker 1: to write a song about that. And that's what Muddy

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01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Water is all about it. I owning who you are

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: and showing that you know your character will always lead

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01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: out and went out either someone besides you, some human

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: needs water, or there's a dog panting his face off

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Speaker 1: her I besides you. Right now, Luna is here. Luna

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Speaker 1: is my shat oh and she's she's like, are we

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: going to Percy Warner right now? And she's she's my

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01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: best friend and with me more times than not. So yeah,

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: she's she's breathing really hard. And how how big is Luna?

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: How big is Luna? She's sixty five pounds, but she

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 1: should probably be like forty. She actually just got put

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Speaker 1: on a diet. So my dog is a bulldog and

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: he's sixty three pounds, but he got put on a diet.

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: Is at fifty nine now, so I know he listens

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: to this podcast like to recognize him and say good job.

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: Wait what how what kind of dog is Luna? She's

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01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: a mix. She has a beagle mixed with Australian shepherd,

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01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: so she's got these really beautiful blue eyes and then

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: she's built like a beagle. You musically played tuba and trombone?

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Speaker 1: Is that true? I do tuba, trombone and and piano,

1341
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: but I tuba was my main instrument for a long

1342
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: long time. How in the world do you go to tuba?

1343
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: Because I see tubas, but I don't know anyone who

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01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: just went, Like all my life, I've been dying to

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: play the tuba. What got you into tuba? It was

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Speaker 1: my band director. She made everything seems so cool and

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01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: they needed a bassline and she knew that I would

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: like commit hard to it, and tuba and trombone were

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: on that bassline and I was like, okay. I started

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: out on trombone, but then I just loved the tubas.

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: I thought they had the coolest part. And like in

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01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Marching Band, if there was a tuba solo, like we

1353
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: sold the show, you know, like it was just cool.

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01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: I've never heard of tuba solo. I'd like to. I'm

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01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: gonna YouTube of tuba solo as soon as things over

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: come through with it, Bobby, because it's those are the best. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would encourage you guys to check out at Harper

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Speaker 1: Gray Music g r a E. Harper Gray Music check

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01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: out her new song Muddy Water. I'm super happy you've

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: spent a few minutes here talking about it, and hopefully

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: I'll see you around soon, and hopefully, if shoulders are

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: all healthy, we'll get our softball team going next spring.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Thanks so much, Bobby all Right by

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Speaker 1: harbary Y m HM