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Speaker 1: This is Teddy Teapot Cabin. So I'm Teddy here and

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Speaker 1: I am pretty excited to take you down my rabbit hole.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I know there are those people

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Speaker 1: out there that get into bed every night. They think

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Speaker 1: they're just going to have a casual little scroll through Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, there you are two

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Speaker 1: and a half hours later. You don't know what you've learned.

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Speaker 1: You feel like you've lost a part of your life,

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Speaker 1: but you've gained some real knowledge about useless information. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm here to tell you about. We are

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Speaker 1: going to go down so many rabbit holes. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to bring an expert across the board. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: bring in people to push me out of my judge zone,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we're gonna laugh make fun of ourselves. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I love everybody over here. At my heart,

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Speaker 1: Tiny is one of my girl girls. So I'm excited,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here today with Jillian, who is going

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Speaker 1: to go down the rabbit hole with me. I am

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Speaker 1: so excited for this because everybody goes down those rabbit holes,

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Speaker 1: and it usually happens for me when I have somewhere

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Speaker 1: and I'll get situated and like fixated with something on

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Speaker 1: my phone. And you just find out so much info

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Speaker 1: just on these crazy topics, and you're right, hours and

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Speaker 1: hours wasted, but you have all that info and then

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Speaker 1: you can speak on it, and you know occasionally people

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Speaker 1: are interested, right, right, So we're gonna say to you

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Speaker 1: all that trouble of doing all the research on your own. Correct,

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Speaker 1: So what are we going to get into today. Do

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Speaker 1: you think one has been all of this open marriage conversation.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's everywhere. It's everywhere. Okay, First we

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Speaker 1: need to clarify some things. I had to have a

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Speaker 1: little convo with my husband. If you tell me after

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Speaker 1: the fact, it's cheating. Yes, I hate to be the

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Speaker 1: bearer of bad news. It's cheating if I find out. No,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, also, I don't understand the idea

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Speaker 1: of getting married and then having this discussion. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: needs to come way before, right at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the dating point. You're getting to that point where it's

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Speaker 1: getting serious and you say, you know what, I am

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Speaker 1: going to be a person that has to be with

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Speaker 1: other people. But it doesn't mean anything to me, or

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Speaker 1: we can set ground rules or whatever it is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then I would leave, but maybe some people won't and

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but I would be one that couldn't take it.

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Speaker 1: But at least then you're setting up the expectations from

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Speaker 1: the beginning. In regards to Thomas middle Ditch what he said,

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Speaker 1: it seemed almost to me like he pitched the idea

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Speaker 1: to his wife when their marriage was struggling. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that they had discussed it, and it seems like he

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Speaker 1: but that he kind of like had to ask her about.

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Speaker 1: But he kept saying, Oh, I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: should share this, she might get mad. Oh she's gonna

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Speaker 1: get mad. I hate to break it to your buddy,

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Speaker 1: Like if you have to question yourself, is my wife

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Speaker 1: gonna be mad? She's pissed. She's already pissed that she's

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Speaker 1: agreed to an open marriage to be with you. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Like that is that is before you put the ring

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Speaker 1: at first I was like, okay, so there's I thought

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Speaker 1: and then polyamory. I might be pronouncing it wrong because

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Speaker 1: But swinging, I can almost like get on board with

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Speaker 1: understanding because you're going in as a couple. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: pick another couple you want. I mean, I even learned

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Speaker 1: from my assistant that people in her neighborhood. Neighborhood had

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Speaker 1: a black wedding band that means you're ready. No, I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of guys I go, I hear guy

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Speaker 1: that you So I have a couple of questions. So

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you know all about the Thomas story middle dish.

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Speaker 1: So my question is why do you think he wanted

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Speaker 1: I have a two mindsets on that. I mean, one

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Speaker 1: could be I mean sort of a greater good attempt

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Speaker 1: in like normalizing it, which is to do um also um.

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Speaker 1: Maybe as a celebrity he could be out it in

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Speaker 1: some other way, so kind of getting ahead of it

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Speaker 1: might be better for his marriage and his relationships. That's

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Speaker 1: an interesting I don't know, you know it exciting to

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Speaker 1: be um in that kind of lifestyle takes a certain

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Speaker 1: a little bit he wanted to be like, I'm studley

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Speaker 1: you think that couples are reaching to do it once

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Speaker 1: they've hit trouble because to me, that's what I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: reveal upfront at that's something that they want to explore

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Speaker 1: So I think you're I think you're absolutely right that

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's hard to imagine that this in

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Speaker 1: how because when it comes to open marriages, which is

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Speaker 1: sure has access to a lot of scenarios where there

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Speaker 1: for him, exactly what you're saying, Teddy, that like, what

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Speaker 1: they got married, Yea, that he said it saved my

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Speaker 1: out and say like this isn't for me, let's go

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Speaker 1: have another drink. Well, you, guys, I can't thank you

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Speaker 1: because you know it, we really knew nothing going into

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Speaker 1: We could keep talking to you, guys, yeah, we could,

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Speaker 1: but we're like getting that, you know, We're like, we're like,

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. I mean, so, I know I don't know

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Speaker 1: you that well, but would you ever do this? I

432
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Speaker 1: don't think I could. I don't. I honestly don't think

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Speaker 1: I could. I mean part of it I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the time, and I think you're never actually feeling secure

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Speaker 1: with your husband or wife like he seemed very secure

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Speaker 1: secure in what he was doing. But you could tell

443
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Speaker 1: she's still, you know, figuring it out. And I you know,

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Speaker 1: I appreciated her being able to share that way, but

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way a lot of women are

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447
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448
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Speaker 1: she's the brakes. Because she doesn't want to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. And if your whole marriage is you

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Speaker 1: to the toes sucking, I gotta start with, like the

488
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: most obvious, have you ever sucked anyone's toes? I never had?

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Speaker 1: And I have never had my toes sucked. I haven't either,

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00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: And I actually asked my husband and I were talking

491
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Speaker 1: about it because you know, I was going down the

492
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Speaker 1: rabbit hole because of all of these people toe sucking,

493
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, baby, I have a question. Would

494
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Speaker 1: you ever want me to suck your toes? And he

495
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: was like no? And I go good, because I'd rather

496
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Speaker 1: cut my own face off than suck your toes. And

497
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: he goes, you think I'm dying to suck your toes

498
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, they are so cute and look

499
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: like snausages, but either way, I just I can't imagine

500
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Speaker 1: being sexually aroused. But then I was like, I don't know,

501
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I am just my my eyes are too closed

502
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Speaker 1: to the possibility of what could be so sexual about

503
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: to sucking, right, and we've never tried it, so how

504
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: do we know? I don't know, but I don't think

505
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: we should try today. I mean, I have a lot

506
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Speaker 1: of questions, but I mean, there are so many people

507
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Speaker 1: to sucking. Julianne Huffs loves her toes being sucked. Yes,

508
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Speaker 1: her husband Brooks He admitted that she loves it, but

509
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Speaker 1: he doesn't make her suck his tones. That's a good

510
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: husband at least, Like you know what, I'm not going

511
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: to make you go there, I mean min min's feet.

512
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: There's to me, there's nothing more disgusting than seeing a

513
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: man in like flip flops or mandols, like, oh, I

514
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: can't wait to get those bad boys in my mouth. No,

515
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: lamar Odom was sucking toes, Babies are sucking their parents toes,

516
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: sing it on Instagrams that I don't even need to

517
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: get into on that rabbit hole, Like I had enough.

518
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Like I read his comments. I was like here for

519
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: the comments and then I was done. But I do

520
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: think that we need to get a toe expert on

521
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Speaker 1: the line to really give give us the juice on

522
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: like what it is and is it a control thing?

523
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: You just want to be able to say, you know what,

524
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I can get them to suck my friend or do

525
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: they really just love it? Okay, so there's a guy

526
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: named the toe bro. Yes, who I think We're going

527
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: to get a lot of these questions answered? All right toebro.

528
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: We have a couple of questions. Our questions aren't necessarily

529
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Speaker 1: surgery related, but they are about the cleanliness of toes.

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Speaker 1: Like how dirty are toes? It depends on how clean

531
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Speaker 1: the person is, but yes, toes could be pretty dirty,

532
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: depending in the environment they're in. What's dirty or a

533
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: tongue or a toe? Probably the tongue. Sorry, Edwin, we're

534
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: never making out again. They're saying that hands are dirtier

535
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: than feet, So, but tongues. That's in your mouth where

536
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: I'm like brushing it. There's a lot of back. Well

537
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe your mouth is pretty good other people's mouth, thanks

538
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: toe bros killing it? Um? So, how should one properly

539
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: prepare to have their toe sucked? Definitely, some good soap

540
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: and water and scrub that baby down and get all

541
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: the toe jam out. No, what if somebody has athletes

542
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: foot or something or planners wards, right, Can it transfer anywhere? Yes?

543
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: It can? So that is a gross thing about about feet.

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00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: So if that person had warts on his toe and

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00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: you suck on that toe, you could definitely get some

546
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: warts around the mouth. No, and what what would it

547
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Speaker 1: be called around your mouth? Would it still be called

548
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: planners words? No? So a planter's worts is just a wart,

549
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: usually on the bottom of the foot, So it just

550
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Speaker 1: be like a an oral warts. Not the same as

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00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: general to warts, but would be another type of words

552
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: that you know, kids or people get on their hands.

553
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm good with the oral warts um okay. And then

554
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: oh and fungus for sure, so let fungal infection of

555
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: the skin on the toe can definitely you can get

556
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: it in your jockey that's why they call it jockey

557
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: and that can spread to anywhere on the body, so

558
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: that your toe stuff is what causes jocket. It's the

559
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: same kind of fungus. Yep, that's disgusting. I have a

560
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: son and now I'm all amped up about the thought

561
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: of him getting athletes foot and jockey edge, okay, so

562
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: he yeah, it's pretty pretty cools. You just gotta make

563
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: sure he drives in between the toes. That's huge. Wait,

564
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: so I have a question. Is there a scientific reason

565
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: as to why people like getting their toe sucked? I

566
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you're I would say it, but I

567
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: would say using the toebro mind is that there's a

568
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of nerve endings on the bottom of your foot,

569
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: so I guess those being stimulated might make some people

570
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: feel good. Do you think it's also a control thing

571
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: that's not my He's like, listen, lady, I you know

572
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I do surgeries. Oh no, but me dealing with field day.

573
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: When I saw that video, I was just shocked. I

574
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: was so disgusted. There's been a lot of videos. It's

575
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: hard to narrow them down. I've been down all of

576
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole holes of but oh it's yeah, it's

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00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: could be pretty gross because I just think of all

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00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: the feet I see every single day, and the average

579
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: person's foot isn't the cleanest or this that doesn't smell

580
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: the prettiest. So I just can't imagine just having a

581
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: little baby suck on a toe. That was just shocking.

582
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: What's the grossest thing you've ever seen on a foot

583
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: or a toe? An infected wound. Those are probably the

584
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: grossest things you could ever smell or see, you know

585
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: what adding the smell and that was a low blow

586
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: toe bro. Well, honestly, we couldn't have done this without you.

587
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Um now, we kind of we were definitely sold on

588
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: the fact that we don't need to be sucking toes

589
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Bottom line, if we do wash our feet,

590
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: wash your feet with soap and water and don't have

591
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: any open wounds, I think I think we can basically

592
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: and we could watch the toebro on Annie. Oh we can't.

593
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. We're going to learn even more about feet,

594
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: but no to s just about feet. That's okay, fine, Hello,

595
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Hi is this Dr Stephanie. Yes, it is Hi. It's

596
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Teddy and Jillian. Well, hello there, Hi. So we're good.

597
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: We're just you know, stuck on some things that we

598
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: were hoping to get some questions answered from you. If

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Speaker 1: you have a couple of minutes and we thought we'd

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Speaker 1: call the sex Guru. Absolutely absolutely, I'm honored to be

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Speaker 1: a part of your show. Well, thanks, so we're having

602
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: We're just gonna dive right in. Let's do it. What

603
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: is like what is a toe fetish? Okay? Well, a

604
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: toe fetish is part of the foot fetish, which is

605
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: actually very common. There's actually several degrees of a foot fetish.

606
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: One is a true fetish that um, someone cannot get

607
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: an erection or aroused or have an orgasm unless it

608
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: involves the foot or the toe or any part of

609
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Speaker 1: the foot that they have the fetish about. The other

610
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: part is just a simple kink meaning, uh, they're turned

611
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: on by toes or they're turned on by feet, but

612
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have to have them to achieve the

613
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: erection or achieve the orgasm. And then the there's also

614
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: the worshiping aspect of the feet, which a lot of

615
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: people are into, and of the toes, and it's common

616
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: for you said worship okay, sorry, yeah that's my that's

617
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: my Texas accent coming out. No, I just wanted to

618
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: make sure like they worshiped the feet, like the feet

619
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: are like queen or uh, well, if it's the female,

620
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: she's her feet are being worshiped as if she's the

621
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: goddess and yeah, and they stuck on her toes and

622
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, well it's sort of like a

623
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: dominant submissive type of thing. Yes, I guess it could

624
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: be considered control and vice versa. UM. You know, the

625
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: female or the male that is um worshiping the feet

626
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: of the male or sucking his toes, is wanting to

627
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: show him he's the god, he's you know, his master, um,

628
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, sucking on his toes to bring him pleasure.

629
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: And you know there's a lot of nerve endings in

630
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: the feet too that a lot of people find very rotic.

631
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: We actually just heard that what's more common for the

632
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: person who gets their toe sucked to get off or

633
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: the person that's doing the toe sucking. I think it

634
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: if you're looking for the perfect world, you need two

635
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: partners that are fully into it. Oh because a lot

636
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: of well we read it's very one sided. It can be.

637
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: But the problem because ideal that's my specializations is fetishes,

638
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: and so I deal with a lot of individuals who

639
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: have certain fetishes and I tell them straight out own

640
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: your fetish, be proud of that, because that's what makes

641
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: you unique, makes you unique and special. So therefore you

642
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: have to be upfront and honest when you're seeking a

643
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: partner so that you can get someone that's into that

644
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: as well. There's someone out there for everyone. I received

645
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: an email a couple of weeks ago from a guy,

646
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: and he was very upfront and he said, the reason

647
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm contacting you is I would love to just massage

648
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: your feet. And he said for a half hour, an hour,

649
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: whatever you're comfortable with. I'll even pay you. This is

650
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: a stranger, a complete stranger. But he was very very

651
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: nice about it. But, like you said, very upfront and

652
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: said that I just I have a fetish and I

653
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: want to touch your feet. And I said, I didn't respond,

654
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: but I mean there's websites dedicated He was wanting to

655
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: worship your feet, you know, he wanted to worship you

656
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: as a goddess. But it was a sexual arousal for him.

657
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: So unless you're that was something you wanted to do,

658
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: it's wise if you not to do it. Do you

659
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: think it's possible that people could have a toe fetish

660
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: and not even know it just because they've never given

661
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: it a shot. Um, No, not a fetish. I'm not

662
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: sure I have any fetishes. Maybe orders often occur early

663
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: in childhood or ride around the time we start to

664
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: get sexual, like you adolescents, or you know, it depends

665
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: on if you're like Bloomer, early twenties. Uh, that's when

666
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: you know you got it. It's not usually something that

667
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: develops later in life. It makes you special, makes you unique. Great,

668
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: neither of us are special. Maybe maybe I'll develop mine

669
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: at forty. Okay, thank you so much, Dr Sefany. You

670
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: provided us with so much good information and I feel

671
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: like I'm leaving this well aware now to make some

672
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: some big decisions. And I want to keep my feet

673
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: clean at all times. You never know, you never now.

674
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: On that. On that note, you have to remember that

675
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: there are plenty of people out there that they're fetish

676
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: is smelly feet. No, you know what, Dr Safy, ma'am.

677
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yes, ma'am. I'm I'm an expert on this.

678
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: I've heard it all, trust me. Wow, you know what,

679
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: I'd be happy? No, thank you, Well, I know what.

680
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm definitely don't have a fetish for smelly feet. Thank you.

681
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. Bye, And you can

682
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: find out more about Dr Stephanie at Stephanie Hunter Jones

683
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: dot com. Wells are you gonna come over? I feel

684
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: like we need some like testosterone over here to really

685
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: You've been making some comments over there, Yeah, like what

686
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: is it called from this side the Peanut Gallery. The

687
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Peanut Gallery. I've been listening to this entire episode and

688
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: I love it. It's gotten super weird, which I'm excited about.

689
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: Um One, Danielle brought up the pineapple thing, which is

690
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: fantastic because I live in Nashville for like twelve years

691
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: and there is a community that lives outside of Nashville

692
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: that the pineapple thing is a real thing. So we

693
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: heard about this, and I know someone who like told

694
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: us that they lived there, and they're like, oh, dude,

695
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: did you hear about the pineapple? The pineapple means you're

696
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: a sweaer, but you have to live in a certain

697
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: part of town to qualify. Like I don't know, like

698
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: just in Nashville. This was just like right outside of Nashville,

699
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: um and like a lot of people live there. And

700
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: so I knew someone who lived there and we used

701
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: to just go put pineapples on his porn. Would people not?

702
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just excited about putting the

703
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: pineapple there. And I was like, he didn't follow, you

704
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't even go down the rabbit hole. I was just

705
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: excited about that. I was just talking about like someone

706
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: who runs out of them because of the pineapple that

707
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: was where I left it. Well, I couldn't have left

708
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: it there. I'd have to follow up. You know, if

709
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: people came, people might have came, people might have I mean,

710
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: you know a lot of you know, not that kind

711
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: of show. Well as we keep it high high brow here,

712
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: I've listened to this entire show. This is exactly what

713
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: this show is. Sorry, I know, sorry, I'm also real quick.

714
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: Is the show called Down the rabbit Hole? Now it's

715
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: called Teddy te Pod. No change the name of the show.

716
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: It needs to be called Teddy Goes Down the rabbit

717
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Hole because that's what you've talked about this entire time,

718
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: about going down the rabbit hole. I know, Well, because

719
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: there's but there's so many rabbit holes. I know, there's

720
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: so many. There's a toe sucking rabbit hole. Okay, so

721
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: are you into toe sucking? Yes or no? But I've

722
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: sucked on a toe just currently. No, not currently, but

723
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: I have sucked on a toe. I'm like, were you

724
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: into it you're excited to suck on the toe or

725
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: where you're not? I but it's different. It's different for

726
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: women that I think it is for men. I really do.

727
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Someone said, yeah, they're because men's feet are disgusting. Absolutely, No,

728
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: there's just actually don't even have socks on. I can't

729
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: even imagine what's going on in No. No, I actually

730
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: do have socks on, but I have like these socks

731
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: on that are like even sex here, like ballet socks,

732
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: which I'm just not impressed with it at all. Um.

733
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: But it's different though, I think because for men, if

734
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: you're making sweet sweet love, women's feet are up in

735
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: the air no matter what you know. Yes, like I've

736
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: had hands touching and kissing of the legs, but there's

737
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: never been a necessity for the toes. There's a different

738
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: necessity for anything that happens in the bedroom. Actually there is.

739
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to break it to you, Well

740
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: there's some necess there's like three things that need but

741
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you get weird with it, and for me it's

742
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: like one. Um, but yeah, I did it one time,

743
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Okay, so one already went to

744
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: a couple of times. So it's a pretty common Jillian.

745
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: We are like not were like behind and when you

746
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: were sucking this toe, this one toe, were you enjoying it?

747
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Because I feel like I don't know this the person

748
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: doing the sucking enjoy it as well as a person

749
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: who's getting sucked. I don't know. I just think I

750
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: was like involved in whatever weirdness that was happening, was

751
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: the toe being thrusted near your face, and like you

752
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is something that's That's what I'm saying. Like,

753
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: if the legs are up in the air, God, I

754
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: hope my mom doesn't want this shop. And that's why

755
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this entire podcast, and like my poor family.

756
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: I've done so much damage to my family. That doesn't

757
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: matter at this point. But like if the legs are

758
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: up in the air and then there's just like that's

759
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: around you, does that make sense? I get the visual.

760
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: I still don't get the necessity. There's no necessity for

761
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: any of this stuff that we're doing. But it happens.

762
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: It happened, It happened, It had a couple of times,

763
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: happened a couple of times. It's not something that like

764
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: I I stick with, but it's it's not your go

765
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: to move, it's not my gut to my other thing

766
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about by listening to this

767
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: whole thing, because it is very evident that it seems

768
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: like you guys are like against the guy on the

769
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: polyamorous um open relationship thing. But have you guys heard

770
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: of and I don't know if IMNA say this right? Cuckolding? No?

771
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: How did I miss this? So like cuckolding like a

772
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: like a cuckold, which I don't think. It's like a thing.

773
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I need more information because I don't have my phone

774
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: easily accessible to do you want me to do this

775
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: on your show? Um? So like a cuckold, I think?

776
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: And I could be totally wrong about this. This is

777
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: different than the toe sucking thing. This is something I

778
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: do not know about. But it's when a woman sleeps

779
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: with another man in front of their boyfriend or husband

780
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: and like shames him about it. Well, that's because the

781
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: man wants it though he wants to be shamed. I

782
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: watched all about this on what is the show Billions?

783
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's not that's not real life, I guess.

784
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: But either way, he enjoyed being shamed by his wife. Okay,

785
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: so like it's still a discussion that they've had, so

786
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: he will go and whether they're going to a sex

787
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: club or whatever it is. That's something that made him

788
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: get off. So the man's she's still doing it for

789
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: the man, I guess, but I don't know, Like the

790
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: just the envisioning what that looks like, that can't be

791
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: for the man. I think that like both parties are

792
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: enjoying that. I don't really know. I don't really know.

793
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: I haven't tried, but I think that, Okay, I'll agree

794
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: with you. Maybe I was a little one sided on

795
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: the situation. That being said, all of the experts we

796
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: had come on, we're also with me. Yeah, I agree

797
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: with you, But like there was just like I wish

798
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: we had a call that was the well, don't you

799
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: worry I have where's the Coco call? Yeah, you know,

800
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: you don't have to shame me because I'm going out

801
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: every rabbit hole. You know what. You only have so

802
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: many hours in a night. I think technically the cuckhold

803
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: is it's like holding CUCKOLDERI cuckold. There's all variations. It's

804
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: a man who is aware of his wife's infidelities. It

805
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: doesn't explicitly say he has to watch it, but that

806
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: might be added. That sounds so gorgeous. I wanted to

807
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: get let's just make up a new term and just start.

808
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: This is what people do now it's called what I

809
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: can't come up with the name. I'm not creative, so brilliant,

810
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: Oh you well about cuck holding is the closeness of

811
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: the cuck part to another word. Yeah, I didn't miss

812
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: that talk holding. But that's why I thought that maybe

813
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: Wells was right. But now you know, now we know

814
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: he's just made up a term himself. But either way,

815
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: So a man knows his wife's cheating on him and

816
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: he's like into it, he's into it, gets off on

817
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: the fact that other people are into his wife. Yeah.

818
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: And then I also think that there's another wrinkle in

819
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: it where please don't say wrinkle in this topic, like honestly,

820
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: yeah it god alright, that he likes being talked down

821
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: to in front of the other man. Yeah, that that's

822
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: like some FFT up staff. Wait I thought this is

823
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: what this podcast was. No, Jessica, No, this is good.

824
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, who I can't imagine being like

825
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: talked down to me and have sex with somebody else

826
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: in front of me. These two things make me feel great.

827
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: So no matter what, the guy that's in the corner watching,

828
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: he's into it. It's not like he's being held there again,

829
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: that's the husband though, but he's into it, like he's

830
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: okay with I don't know, but I know it's a thing. Okay,

831
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: he has he this he hasn't experienced. I have not

832
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: experienced that, but I know it's a I've heard about it.

833
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Like and like, I think that goes deep. I mean,

834
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no degrees in anything, but

835
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: like I feel like that has to go down just

836
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: like deep down childhood shame or something that's like past,

837
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: like somebody being a little bit narcissistic and wanting all

838
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: the checks. Yeah, you're right, you want to be shamed. Ever,

839
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm messed up. Look at me. I spent hours on

840
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: the internet researching nonsense. You didn't look in the what

841
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: if dropped the ball? I was the thing. By the way,

842
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: the episode is not allowed to be called wellsing. You

843
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: know what, I'm trade market. You just can't. For those

844
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: of you who don't know Wells. Wells was on The Bachelorette,

845
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: he was on Bachelo in Paradise. He's the bartender in

846
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: this past episode, over this past season and earlier before

847
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: we started, I was sitting in this room and there

848
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: was just Bachelor Nation just sprawled out across the room,

849
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: and I was doing everything in my power to like

850
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Speaker 1: be normal watching you guys all interact in real life.

851
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of the franchise, and I was

852
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: just so excited to see everybody in this room. Is

853
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: it weird to see us interact with each other like

854
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: in a normal setting A little bit? Yeah, Like, you

855
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: guys are so normal totally, and we're all like very

856
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: friend I think that's the one thing that people don't

857
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: remember when they watched the show, is that everyone super

858
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: friendly because we all experience some weird thing that not

859
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people can relate to, you know, um,

860
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: like being broken down and ripped apart and have like

861
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: nothing but therapy every single day about like weird relationships,

862
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: makes this weird bond that happens and national talent while

863
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: on national television and and well here's the thing that

864
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: I think that everyone forgets. It happens and that's like

865
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: really raw and really real, and then four months later

866
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: it airs and then you have to relive it. And

867
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: that's a tough thing for a lot of people to experience.

868
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Speaker 1: And so when all of us come together, even people

869
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: that like it's always funny to me, like when people

870
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: are not friends in the show or like enemies or

871
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: villains or whatever, and then you bring them together, they're

872
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: still cool with one another because like no one can

873
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: relate to what it was like living on that beach

874
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, or live being in Prague, you know,

875
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: week seven of a show. Uh, it's just this, it's

876
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: a weird thing that it's just glue that brings everyone together.

877
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: So like for you to see us all together, Like,

878
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: first of all, I love everybody because I'm the bartender,

879
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: so like everyone has to like me. But yeah, life back.

880
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, but for the most part, like we're all

881
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: super tight and the show can make us look like

882
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: we're against one another, but that's not really the case

883
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: for the most part. Yeah, I loved seeing that today

884
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: and the show is what essentially brought you to find love,

885
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily on the show, but thanks to a tweet.

886
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I haven't even gone down this rabbit hole yet. Oh yeah,

887
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: I need all the I need all the info. So um,

888
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: what happened was that I was on the Bachelorette like

889
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: years ago. Well that I know I'm on that that

890
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: part you're on that part of the rabbit hole. I

891
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: mean the other part of the you don't know is

892
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: that um my fiance is a huge fan of the

893
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: Bacherette and she like tweeted about me on the show

894
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: and what did she say? So it was like a

895
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: mental all and I made a couple of literary references,

896
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: and I think she tweeted out like, well's the best

897
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: he actually can read? You know, like who knew like

898
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: bench where people could read or something like that. Uh.

899
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: And then I think I responded to that publicly on Twitter. Yeah,

900
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: I think, like jokingly. And then we started d m

901
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: NG and then like things didn't pan out, and then

902
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: I became the bartender and then she was excited about

903
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 1: that and tweeted about that, and then I respond to that,

904
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: and then we started talking again. And then fast forward

905
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: to today we're engaged to be married and CONGRATU from

906
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: a modern family. Yes, I love this. This is so good.

907
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so old that back in my day,

908
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: if I wanted to like meet somebody, I had to

909
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: go to attempt to dance at a club and like

910
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: someone come chat with me. Like sliding into d m

911
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: S as a whole new well and Well has kind

912
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: of started this trend now of these people from Bachelor, Bachelorette,

913
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: dating celebrities. Yeah, Tyler c is Now I saw that.

914
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true, but I saw that,

915
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: like he couldn't be he chose Gi over the Bachelor

916
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I was like, you know what,

917
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: I not a hard choice? Are you kidding me? Uh? Yeah?

918
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: He mean like the joke is that I walked so

919
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: Tyler and Mike could run, He says the joke. He's like,

920
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: grinning with pride, starting to get red. Understand how excited

921
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: I am about this because I did so much leg

922
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: work to make this a thing. Hold on, Tyler? Who

923
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: hold on? Not Mike, who was just here? Who's just here?

924
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: It's dating been supposedly DEMI and him are like a thing.

925
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Did he say anything today? I mean, I'm not gonna

926
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: say this on this podcast, but I'm excited about it.

927
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: That's all that needs to be said. Your voice one up?

928
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: So he is he said something about it, and then um,

929
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: Nick Vile Yeah with the summer from the o C right,

930
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that. I don't know if

931
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: that was true. And I'm friends with Nick, so he

932
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't told me that, But well most nothing in

933
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: the world would be for him to not tell me

934
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: this so that you could find out and then talk

935
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: about it on well, like who doesn't. Well you know

936
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: what you've really you let a movement here, I feel

937
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of. I'm excited to see the couples

938
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: to come. Yeah, we'll see for sure. Called this well,

939
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: this is this is this is much better than you

940
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: can stand by this this one, I'm proud of the

941
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: other one not so much. Before you go, well, what

942
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: did you think of Luke p from Hannah season? That

943
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: guy scared me, Like I've never been legitimately scared from

944
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: watching a show, but he was like on a different

945
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: level and I could wish him the best of whatnot

946
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: we love it? I mean I wish blesses hard bless

947
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: that's the most southern thing in the world, but like

948
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: the most like like sociopath narcissist guy ever. And he

949
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: was so far on that show gas lighting you guys,

950
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: we next week should we go down? So what is

951
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: it is? So gas lighting would be like, Okay, let's

952
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: say you're in a relationship and you're talking about, Hey,

953
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I would love if you could just you know, reciprocate

954
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: more okay, I will do that. And then three weeks

955
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: later they treat you like bleep and you're like, hey,

956
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: remember we sort of discussed, uh, you reciprocating more. We

957
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: never talked about that, or it would be I would

958
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: have reciprocated more, but you didn't do blah blah blah blah.

959
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: So it's actually your fault that I am the way

960
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: that I am. Wait, hold on, you just overtook that

961
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: whole thing. Are we doing narcissism or are we doing gaslightersky?

962
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: Gas Lighting is an action. Being a narcissist is a

963
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: state of gas Lighting is something narcissists do. Fair, fair, Okay,

964
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll talk in the vein of narcissism, gaslight,

965
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: and sociopath what's sociopaths or killers? Narcissists are just boys.

966
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: Gaslighting guys are literally every when you're gonna meet the

967
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: bar tonight, that's where we are. The people that were

968
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: just in this room. Well, on that note, I guess, uh,

969
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: we gotta close up, We gotta we gotta close the

970
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Speaker 1: whole tonight. Thanks for listening. Subscribe to any teapot on

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Speaker 1: I Heart radio or wherever you listen to podcasts.