WEBVTT - BONUS EP: Clip Show #1 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:13.400 Hey, what's up. How you doing? Uh? You know, it's 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.040 Ernie's for you on a nerd fam. Yeah, what's up, 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.720 nerd fam? Are you doing? Uh? You know right now, 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:26.240 Danny's on the beach with her toes, you know, tinkling 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.680 up in the sand, and I'm probably driving to my 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:35.280 dad's house. And it's what that means is it's Christmas time. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.240 So we're gonna drop a couple of our favorite clips 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.120 from a couple of our favorite episodes so you can 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.880 enjoy them. I think back on the good times before 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.960 for the holidays, when we were Akupato and Danny was 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:56.040 living life lavish on the Bahamas somewhere. I was trying 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.080 to figure out where you were going with the Yeah, yeah, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.560 but yeah, enjoy the US clips. They're gonna be fun. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:11.280 Let's talk about the history Deep Deep. We still don't 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.040 have our sound, I know, I look, I just like 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.040 repeating deep Dive. We'll just clip that for next time. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.520 The earliest it looks like known table top game was 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.319 a series of forty nine small carved painted stones that 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.760 were actually found at the five thousand year old I 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:38.720 think this is by Burial Mound in southeast Turkey. Um 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.840 and those are the earliest gaming pieces ever found. Yeah, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.559 and similar pieces have been found in Syria and Iraq 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.319 and seem to point to a board games originating in 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.600 the Fertile Crescent and other early origin Dice games were 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.480 created by painting a single side of a flat stick. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.640 These sticks would be tossed in unison in the amount 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.160 of painted side showing would be your role Mesopotamian ice 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.560 were made from a variation of materials including carved knuckle bones, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.560 would painted stones, and turtleshell. You know what this kind 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:11.920 of adjacent to this reminds me of cornhole? Do you 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.480 know the history? Of course this is according at least 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.640 to my ex whom religiously so he's from He's from Ohio, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.200 which that when dating him, I was exposed to cornhole. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.560 I didn't know. I grew up in southern California. I 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.959 don't know if it was a big thing or not. Um, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.240 but I wasn't aware of it. And then they would, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.480 like literally the kids in his town would make their 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.280 own corn holes and paint them. That sounds so bad. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.040 So if you don't know what cornhole is, it's like, um, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.600 it's like a flat surface, um ramp that has a 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.120 hole in it that you then toss bean bags into. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.639 And what my ex told me was that the history 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.360 of it is that they used to throw corn cobs 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.400 into our houses. I don't know, we might need our 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.280 researcher to look into that, but that's the history of 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.520 I like that history, though, I think I think I'm 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:02.400 down with the corn cob and to an out. Yeah, yeah, no. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.760 I learned cornhole from the white improv community that I'm 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.400 a part of out here that showed up at parties 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.120 and because yeah, growing I don't know about you, but 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.440 growing up in something so cow, our big thing was like, 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:19.959 uh no, I was gonna beer pong. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.760 the big like party game I'm aware of. But cornhole 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.079 seems way more chill, like a backyard barbecue, through a 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.639 little sack into a hole, through a corn cob into 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:32.480 a toilet bowl. Okay, but let's jump down this timeline. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.800 So thanks for our researchers, we have a brief time 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.440 line of game history, and it starts in b C 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.240 E with SENA. It's s an an et, which is 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.360 either senate or sane. I'm fancy, so I'm gonna call 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.320 it sane. It's discovered in the Pre Dynastic and First 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.000 Dynasty burials of Egypt. Senate is believed to be the 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:58.280 world's oldest board game, meaning game of passing. Seney consisted 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.240 of a grid of thirty squares arranged in three rows 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.200 of tin and two sets of ponds, though the exact 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.800 rules are the source of much debate. A copy of 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.320 the game was found buried with Tuton Common which is 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.760 funny because I feel like that's tabletop to a t 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.360 which is arguing over what the rules actually are. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.039 a lot of things buried with him, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.640 all of his animals and I think like friends. Also 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.800 that thing you always keep that Yeah, okay, So moving 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:31.320 on the fourteen hundred b C. We see dice. Actually so, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.840 Sophocles claimed that Palamedes invented dice in about four b C, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.400 and sure enough they found cubicle stones and clay dice 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.960 during that period. But in truth, it's possible that dice 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.560 were actually developed independently by many ancient cultures around the world. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.640 I believe that. Did you know that alcohol was also 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.279 developed independently around major cultures? I took a history of 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.520 this was in my deep weep phase. When I was 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.400 in community college, but I took it was Japanese, but 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.200 I also took like the history of Japan, and they 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.359 were talking about how Korean in Japan and almost every 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.480 country you found alcohol on their own. So there had 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.000 to be that one weird guy and every culture who 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:18.479 was like, let's taste this rotten juice. It might also 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.440 be I mean, I'm sure someone will correct us, but 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.200 I imagine also it's just like their limited resources, where 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.840 like if something did go wrong or it was like fermented, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.800 it was like, we don't have the resources to just 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.360 throw this away. You know that sounds like a very 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.440 educated guest. And then and then eventually what ended up 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.680 happening was that the water supply was so bad that 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.680 they just ended up having to drink alcohol, which is 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.440 something we should cover. We should cover nerds getting drunk. Well, well, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.960 we should definitely cover um the science behind not even that. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.680 But remember when everybody was making their own beer like 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.359 like that still I mean still yeah, people real nerds 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.400 about that, Like it was like, oh man, I made 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.520 my own beer micro brewing. Well, let's dip over to 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.719 for a game that sounds kind of familiar. Snakes and Ladders, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.880 I love it. I wish they had kept that name. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.440 Snakes and Ladders originated in India as a game based 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.120 on morality, where the progression up the board was to 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.359 teach children about good and evil, with climbing up ladders 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:18.000 representing good and sliding down snakes representing evil. During the 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.120 British rule of India, the game made its way back 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.479 to the Assures and it was taken the US as 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.239 Shoots and Ladders in ninety three by Milton Bradley. Should 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.719 have been snakes. That's gentrification one on one right there, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.240 like all right, I'm gonna take the snakes out, We're 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.320 gonna add some shoots. We're gonna move on to the 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.720 first board game, Millionaire. This is one of the most 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.560 fascinating stories that we encountered coming across this topic. In 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.680 nineteen thirty five, we got Monopoly and a lot of 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.760 people wrongly credit Charles Darrow as being the soul designer, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.560 And what actually happened is Charles and his wife Esther 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.520 actually went in nineteen thirty two to the home of 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.159 his friend, who was a Philadelphia businessman named Charles Todd 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.360 and his wife Olive. So he went over to their 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.640 place and they played a real estate board game that 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.920 they had recently learned, and they became fascinated by it, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.440 and Charles Todd his friend made the Daros a set 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.080 of their own, and then the other Charles, so many 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.240 Charles in this. Okay, so Charles Darrow, listen this because 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.120 this is where the sneak that sounds like a character 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.520 from Downton Abbey. By the way, Charles d Charles, Charles Daru, 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.040 and I've made some board games for you. A Todd, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.400 I gotta say, on paper sounds hello, whack uh. You know, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.920 it was like, hey, on paper sounds really whack. Like 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.000 to be like, hey, you guys wanna play a real 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.200 estate board game? I'm like, na, son, let's bring out 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.200 the magic the gathering. Why are you bringing this trade? 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.280 Win was prohibition? Let me see if they were bored? 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.880 Very good question. Right. We want to go and tell 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.920 you the best selling Nintendo games of all time, which 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.760 nice shock people. Yeah, it shocked me for sure. So 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.960 I'm gonna give you all, you know, a few seconds 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.080 to yeah, yeah, to brace yourself to think what you 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.440 think it is. Yeah, we'll do the top ten and 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.480 we'll start from ten, and we'll work our way up, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.920 so let's get it started. Number ten, which I'm real 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.480 proud about because I've been talking about this game starting 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:33.000 now is Duck Hut, which is twenty eight million, which 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.800 I don't know if that really counts since it came 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.280 with the system, but you know, i'm gonna give it. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.440 I'm gonna give it the crown. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. So 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:45.000 number nine is we Play super Popular y point oh 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:49.240 two million, just just barely edging out Ducats. And number 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.400 eight is Tetris for the Game Boys, speaking of which 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.960 yet million. Okay, so number seven new Super Mario Bros. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.040 On the Wei. Yeah, I'm fascinated by how many of 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.520 these are we related. So that's thirty point eleven million. Yeah, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.040 and then the New Super Mario Bros. Which was the 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.560 same game but on the DS. Uh or I wonder 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.160 if it was the other way around. I think it was. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.920 It came out on the d S and then they 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.760 made it for the Wei. We'll look into that, but 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:23.960 that was thirty point eighty million. Pokemon Red Green Blue 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.559 for Game Boy, thirty one point thirty eight million, We 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:34.720 Spicy Diety, and then uh We Sports Resort thirty three 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.400 point zero six the We Sport really is like, how 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.320 is this now? Picture in your head every Nintendo game 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:46.440 that you know, and We Sports Resort beat it, well, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.840 at least most of them. It's at number four. Number three. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.920 Of course we have Mario Kart. This was Mario Kart 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.160 we specifically, so thirty seven point two million. It makes sense. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:03.160 I guess with the popularity of the Wei and game 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.120 like kind of where we're at now that the majority 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.600 of these are for WE. But I still find that 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.600 really fascinating. And number two is Super Mario Bros. For 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.240 the NES and g B A forty two point fifty 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.880 one million. Okay, brace yourself. Number one. Who what would 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.839 you have thought number one would be the number one 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.720 selling I would have thought Pokemon. But Pokemon is pretty 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.840 high up there there in the top five at least. Yeah, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.000 that's true. I guess for some reason, I thought it 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:33.320 would be Super Mario Bros. Um well, it was. It 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.040 was until this game came out. It was number one 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:41.360 until this game came out. This game being We Sports God, yep, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.920 the thing that you pull out after every Thanksgiving when 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.040 your family and that's my family, when like uncle's passed 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.920 out asleep and who's going to break out the WE Sports. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.640 I know it's surprising, but not surprising because I feel 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.080 like WE Sports is the one game that across the board, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.800 whether you're a gamer or not, everyone is aware of. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.559 Everyone has seen the video someone playing tennis or someone 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.440 doing the golf. I feel like those videos going viral 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.720 like many of them did, has just made people flocked 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.240 to we'se. I can't believe that Super Smash Brothers didn't 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:19.000 even like get Super Smash Brothers number ye yeah, yeah, god, 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.760 oh yeah. I mean I just played that religiously in 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.920 Super Mario sixty four is all the way down at 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.360 number forty. That was my favorite game growing up. It's 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.160 just really knocked this back down to PEG. But that 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.600 is something that's very interesting. I want to talk about 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.480 the WEE a bit and the Wei. I feel like 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:42.559 inside like gamer culture shook the gaming set guys, because 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.680 you had the WE kind of dropped around the time 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.880 the PS three and the Xbox three sixty came, so 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.199 everyone was waiting for Nintendo's next gen console. So someone 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.360 thought that they were going to compete with something that 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.720 is that has like ten a D p h D graphics, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.160 very powerful new controller, and they came out with this 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:04.120 WE console that was used a remote emotion. I mean, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.319 but it was very it was extremely interactive. What it 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.559 was was approachable for a lot of people. I feel 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.720 like when people see controllers, they're like what, but everyone 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.559 uses a remote, So I think that made it approachable 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.760 for just the general kind of you know. Yeah, it's 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.280 one of those things where I think, like, I can't 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.120 remember in the commercials if they did this, but it's 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.560 it's people of all ages essentially, Like you could give 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.120 your grandma a WE remote and she can just use 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.600 her body like she can swing, you know, the golf 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.160 club or bowl. I was really great at bowling. And 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.839 so I agree, like you said, if it's it's you 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.640 don't have to worry necessarily too much about a lot 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.680 of the buttons. Uh, it's you know, largely based on 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.280 your body movement for a lot of things. So I 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.280 did think, and it's and it's interactive, it's like a 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.120 family you know, a lot of the WE games are 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.080 encouraging for others to play kind of as a group. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.200 So and and I think you had it right in 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.040 what she said is a family console. It was a 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.240 big deal where they finally came around and had an 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.600 imerated game. The the WE typically tried to be just 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.920 fun for all, and they tried to steer more towards 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.600 family friendly game, which a lot of people thought that 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.240 was a bad move, but an the end, I think 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:14.960 it was a good move because you have these two 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.760 giant uh consoles compete with each other, the Xbox and PlayStation, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.679 and they were coming out neck to neck with exclusives, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.600 shooter games, action got of war, violent games, and then 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.080 you have this like fun console that you can bring 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.440 out in the whole family wants to play. And I 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.040 think that's where they capitalize. And you know, the WU 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.000 wasn't very successful because I feel like it it just 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.560 kind of one I don't think personally it was that 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.520 much of an advancement. It was literally just a better 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.000 version of the Wei, which you can say what you 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.599 will about them doing that, but that's basically what the 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.480 Xbox one X in the PlayStation four pro is at 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.840 this point. But then they made the Switch, which was 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.640 another innovative game on SOL where it was it can 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.520 be both portable and a console game you can play 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.200 at home. So it seems like that's always been Nintendo's 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.920 kind of drive is to find innovative ways to play 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.640 versus trying to just be the best at what the 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.920 current status quo is. Yeah, and I know that we 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.800 skipped forward to WE, but I just wanted to mention 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.920 the gaming systems that came before that. So we talked 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.880 about the NES. So the difference with that was that 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.480 it was an eight bit system. Yeah, um, and so 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:33.480 that was then they upgraded to sixteen bit and that 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:38.480 was in one with the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. I 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.680 think I remember having that one as well. And then 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.240 my favorite and if you're a nineties kid, I mean 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:48.320 this was our home base. Nintendo sixty four greatly improved 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.880 three D graphics and new controller at the modern joystick. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.560 We have to do an entire episode on and sixty four. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.560 I mean we'll probably do an entire episode on most 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.200 of these. But that came out, and then we of GameCube. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.680 I remember GameCube in two thousand and one, so that 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:10.000 also had enhanced graphics, new controller. Um. The games came 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.160 on a mini disc and it was Nintendo's first home 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.400 console to use solely disc format for their games. And 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.760 it was also the first and only Nintendo system to 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.280 require additional memory cards in order to save Do you 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.280 remember that? Oh man? Uh? And then they had the 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.600 Panasonic Cue, which was kind of like a hybrid version 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.720 of Nintendo GameCube that was in two thousand and one, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.920 but that could also that kind of change things because 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.600 it could also play DVDs, audio CDs, MP three's and CDs. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.480 So they were trying to catch up. I feel like 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.360 they were trying to also do like what PlayStation was doing. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.440 And then we have the Wei in two thousand and six, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.280 so the newer black, red, and blue models were dubbed 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.120 the Wee Family editions, so they were really capitalizing on 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.080 the family market. We had the WE Mini, which was 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.480 a smaller version of the WE console that was we 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.320 had we you Yeah, we had so many Wee's which 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.840 was like a game pad with a touch screen built 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.200 into it, and that was also in We had the 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.360 NES Classic edition totally did you get that iffy? Oh? No, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.560 I didn't do you play anybody's No. I wasn't going 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.760 to fight the crowd crowds, oh man. So if y'all 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.520 don't know, I mean just totally capitalizing on our nostalgia 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.960 at this time. The NES Classic was a mini console 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.600 that was basically bringing back all your childhood of playing 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:36.440 a NES. It included thirty classic n S games, but 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.560 was also compatible with the we uh controller a week 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.880 classic controller. So and then we have the Nintendo Switch, 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:50.760 which do you have one of those? Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, yeah, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.760 the Nintendo Switch, um, and that was in seventeen. It 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.360 was kind of like a hybrid of a lot of 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:02.040 the of the home and the portable gaming of their 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:07.359 consoles and uh. And then we also have the Supernintendo 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:13.240 Entertainment System Classic Edition or SNS Mini, and that was yeah. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.640 So so they've they've dropped quite a few bangers, and 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.800 the Switch is doing well. It had a great year. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.520 Breath of the Wild swept the game of the years, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.040 all of them, every almost every every publication game of 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.440 the Year had Breath of the Wild. And so there, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.080 I'm excited to see where they go with the Switch. Yeah. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.879 That wasn't even getting into all the different iterations of 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.800 game Boy that they had, but yeah, well we'll probably 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.160 do We will do an entire episode on game Boy. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.960 Oh yeah, we definitely just handhelds, just into no handhelds, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.840 but we'll talk a little bit more. But before that, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.720 I think you guys need a break or at least 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.280 we do. So we'll talk to you when we come 0:17:54.280 --> 0:18:04.400 back with our guests after this. All right, and welcome 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.359 back to Artificent. We are talking about violence and video games, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.480 going down the history of it, talking about all the 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.680 studies to strike down whatsoever. Just so much info just 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.440 disproving this, but we have it here all in one 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.080 place for you. But Danny wanted to h wanted to 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.840 say something up top. Yeah, that a p a uh 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.960 study that we were talking about. The American Psychological Association. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.359 So they had actually looked at four meta analysis that 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.960 reviewed more than a hundred and fifty research reports published 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.800 before two thousand and nine, and then of the ones 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.639 published between two thousand nine, and they looked at a 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.240 hundred and seventy articles to come up with their research. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.359 And again it said, while there's some variation among the 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:58.639 individual studies, a strong and consistent general pattern has emerged 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.840 from many years of re search that provides confidence in 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.399 our general conclusions. As with most areas of science, and 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.239 the picture presented by this research is more complex than 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.560 it usually include in news coverage and other information prepared 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.600 for the general public. So that's another sector of it 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.240 is what the media decides to latch on. What is 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.480 shown is like they played video games, or they played 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.440 violent video games, which they're not looking at the full picture. Yeah, 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.560 well because that's such as simple. Yeah, of course they 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.760 played video games, because everyone their age plays video games. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.480 That isn't you know, shocking And it's funny because you 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.359 would think, after you know, that huge study and even 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.040 Scalia kind of like shutting it down, it would end. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.000 But most recently Trump went ahead and set that video games, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.080 the video games, the movies, the interactive stuff is so violent. 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.080 He went ahead and set that, and it kind of 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.800 re ignited this dead argument because at this point it 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.240 is officially dead. I feel like it's reached as it's 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.280 not I mean, it's alive, but it's you're beating a 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.240 dead horse. That is is not true. It is like 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.280 it's having that Berenstein Bears argument. We've already proved, We 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.760 already proved to you that the name was what it was. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.000 I need to tell you something. Did you see on 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.479 the White House YouTube channel, which if you didn't know, 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.240 the White House has a YouTube channel, they have something. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.159 They have a video up that's titled violence in Video Games. 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:35.200 It has um over a million views. Uh, if you, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.760 I will show it to you. It is literally there's 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:42.480 no introduction to it. It is just the most not 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.680 the most, but it is just violent excerpts taken from 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.440 video games of people like hitting each other with hatches 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:54.600 or or shooting someone in there some pretty prolific scenes 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.639 in video games. Because these are some games I've played 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.240 and it and they're really it is funny. They got 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.080 Dead by Day, which is a horror game where you 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:07.120 play a slasher. It really is like but there's no introduction. 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.960 There's literally nothing that that introduces this this video. It 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.960 just is on their YouTube page with clips of violent 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:20.080 you know, violent particular points in videos. They're taking old games. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.359 They took the extremely controversial No Russian and it was 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.040 the scene where you're you literally go and do a 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.960 mass shooting like that is the scene in the context 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.800 of the story, it makes sense and actually, as the player, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.159 you do have the option to not shoot anyone. You 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.800 actually get an achievement if you do that whole episode 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.119 and shoot no one. Here's that whole Yeah, it's fascinating. 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.120 One of the comments that has over two thousand likes says, 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.920 I mean some of those clips you showed are unplayable 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.400 cut scenes, So shouldn't you therefore be making the same 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.359 argument against movies and television. Yeah, I think that's the 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.320 same thing. And I do want to point out that 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:02.479 the first half of that video, no one was using guns. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.159 It was all just access growing us like it was 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.480 no real like I think two people got shot and 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.800 the rest were with other weapons other than guns. So 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.760 you're just taking in somebody else. Somebody else said I 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:17.919 play a lot of fantasy games and for that reason 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.719 and planning to tame and write a dragon. You know, 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:24.560 I'm not trying to necessarily make fun of people who 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.000 are concerned about violence and video games, but I do 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:30.600 want to say it is dangerous. It is dangerous that 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.200 when we have went through the proper means and the courts, 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.240 your own justice, the one who is on the side 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.879 of the Republicans has doesn't agree with you, and you 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.360 go and you post that like that is that is dangerous? 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.080 It is on the White House on the White House. Yeah, 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.720 channel I agree, and with no explanation, I feel like 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:57.399 that's another like it's irresponsible is exactly what it is. 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.520 It's irresponsible, and it's denying all the world that everyone 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.800 has done and all the facts that are out there 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.239 that proves this is just not true. I do want 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.399 to play this clip from the Daily Site guys because 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.080 I feel like, you know, they have a fun way 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.240 Daily Zeite guys, another show on the How Stuff Works Network. 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.400 We're gonna have to bleep a lot of it because 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.480 they are some potty mouse. You know. When I'm on there, 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.040 I never cuss. I don't cuss in my whole life. 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.600 But yeah, this is kind of I feel like instead 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.840 of kind of repeating what has happened and what is 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.199 said during the recent shootings, would be good to just 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.640 kind of give you you all just a clip and 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.320 you know, if you don't already listen to the Daily 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.399 Site guys, hopefully this will make you want to go 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.639 peep those guys out. You know, me and Danny have 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:42.840 both been on it talking point. It seemed like on 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:44.800 all the Sunday shows because the n r A had 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.200 to get all their people out to start spending this 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.879 recent shooting to be anything but the guns. Uh seem 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.479 to be mostly video games and movies now was like 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:59.040 the I guess Scapegoat Jour and riddling. Yes, so I 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.720 guess the first step new one. Yeah, Ali North, who 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.840 is the new n r A president and O G 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.440 Gunn smuggler of America. He went on Fox and yeah 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.520 blamed riddling in a bunch of check out this explanation. 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.600 We're trying, like the Dickens, to treat the symptom without 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:17.680 treating the disease. And the disease in this case isn't 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.920 the Second Amendment. The disease is youngsters who are steeped 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.439 in a culture of violence. Uh, they've been drugged in 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:29.399 many cases. Nearly all of these perpetrators are male and 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.920 their young teenagers in most cases, and they've come through 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:38.000 a culture where violence is commonplace. All we need to 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.200 do is turn on the TV, go to a movie. 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.159 If you look at what has happened to the young people, 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.840 many of these young boys have been on riddle in 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:50.200 stance they were in kindergarten. H that's such a hard 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:54.480 left on. Like it's like he even started like making 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.200 a good point of like all these young shooters are male, 0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.280 all these young like that that could be a discussed 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.480 about what toxic masculinity is and things like that, right, 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.360 but then it turns into a ridin. Yeah, So like 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.840 they at this point and I think hearing that also 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.639 lets you know that it really isn't video games. It 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.400 really isn't. What it really comes down to is anything 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.720 but smarter gun control laws, Like that's what. And it's 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.919 so funny because no one. I feel like a few people, 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.879 a few fringe people might have said ban all guns, 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.040 but no one is saying ban all guns. What we're 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.680 saying is make it harder to get these killing machines. 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.480 I want to start just with the war because it's 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.159 very interesting. It's it's almost like you know when you 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:46.080 read some people's biographies and you're like, oh, this is 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.520 this is gonna be a good movie one day. I 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.560 feel like Rod Serling has one of those. But that's 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:53.880 kind of fascinating. I guess he hasn't. No one has 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.679 played him yet, like officially in a huge film. I agree. 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:02.000 He is so instrumental. I feel like in um, not 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.879 only science fiction, but just yeah, I know that he 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.640 gets compared Black Mirror gets compared a lot to Twilight Zone, 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.760 and that's accurate. And then, and of course we're gonna 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.600 also visit the fact that Jordan Peel is now making, 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.119 which I think he's perfect for. It is going to 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.360 be on the CBS platform. Yeah, because like get Out 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:22.600 would have been the perfect like episode of Twilight Zone 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:27.080 in the same like cutting just um, what's the word 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:31.399 I'm looking for criticism? What I was gonna say is, actually, 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.119 Jurassic Park fits a lot people forget, but that fits 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.800 a lot of like, yeah, the original Drastic Park well, 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.520 and I would say drastic the last one Draassic World 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.760 Falling Kingdom um where they start to kind of or 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.320 or they hint at using dinosaurs as weapons. That to 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.600 me is also kind of like what would we do 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.040 with this technology? Um where it could also be like 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.719 a Black Mirror episode. But yeah, Rodster. As far as me, 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:58.240 like I grew up with the Twilight Zone marathons, my 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:03.280 parents would party and essentially leave us alone. On New 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.240 Year's Eve, we had watch it on Sci Fi my 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.320 brothers and I. I now, if he has been to 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.520 my place, Melow, you are welcome to come to my place. 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.920 I have a Twilight Zone wall um which I will 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:17.320 tweet with different artwork and original artwork that's signed by artists. 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.359 I have rod sterling up there. I have m many 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.520 of the episodes, including one of the most famous ones, 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.560 which is I have the Beholder, but also I had 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.320 an artist a lot of the other ones that don't 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.280 have as much artwork, so I commissioned an artist to 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.720 do my favorite. Well it changes as the years go on, 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.320 but my favorite is The Howling Man is one of 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.760 my absolute favorite episodes. Uh. And also Satan's kind of hot. 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.040 He's kind of hot in it. Uh he is, he 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.879 looks good. Um. So yeah, so let's talk about the 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.359 history of Rod Sterling. Yeah, I was, and I just 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.560 wanted to start in high school. He funny enough, He's 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.760 always been a right or not funny, I mean just 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:59.399 I guess as expected always. He was writing for the 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.560 school news paper and he was kind of like amped 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.720 up about World War two and he was kind of 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.119 encouraging other students to enlist. And he actually wanted to 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.479 enlist before he graduated. But then it was actually his 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.720 Civics teacher, Gus Youngstrom, who said war is a temporary thing. 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.080 It ends an education doesn't without your degree, where will 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:22.080 you be after the war? So he actually finished school, graduated, 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:26.080 and as soon as school ended, enlisted. Now there's a 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:31.800 fun detail in his enlistment that kind of really I 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:36.200 think sets up who Rod Serling is. So originally he 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.240 was sent to um California, which man he was going 0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.160 to fight the Japanese instead of you know, the the Germans, 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:47.040 and he was actually angry about it because he wanted 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.960 to fight Hitler and so so he was like, forget 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.520 the Japanese, I need to fight this guy, this horrible, bigoted, 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.480 racist guy, like that's who he wanted. And I feel 0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.000 like that kind of set the tone for his life. Eventually, 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.560 Lee he actually grown bitter about the war because it 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.360 seemed like such a young thing to do, to be like, oh, 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.800 I'm gonna go join the army, I'm gonna fight the 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.080 bad guys. But he found out that, you know, he 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.000 was seeing death every day. And then there were a 0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.360 lot of freak accidents. There was this huge freak accident, 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.600 like there was there was a Jewish private name Melvin Levy, 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.200 and Levy was delivering a comic monologue for the platoon 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.720 as it as like he was standing under a palm 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.920 tree and a food crate was dropped from a plane 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:34.360 above and it decapitated him. And so Startling actually let 0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.840 the funeral services for Levy and placed the Star of 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.080 David over his grave. So like, not only are you 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.920 seeing the death of the war, but you're also seeing 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.040 freak accidents like that. I can imagine that's not only 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.720 kind of making you bitter towards the war, but that 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.479 I feel like there's no way to not have this 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:55.560 kind of morbid, kind of creative thought when you see 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.240 things like that, you know, like, yeah, I would say 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.000 also during the time, UM, I think like you were 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.400 saying too, that he was exposed to this idea of 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:09.080 good verse evil and then evil not necessarily being evil 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.800 or are we the evil actually? Um? Was something that 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.720 I think that he tackled a lot pretty often. UM. 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.240 Human nature as well as during this time. Just the 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:23.680 amount of racism that he saw was definitely influential in 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.800 his writing. And something that's really fascinating is we can 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.280 we can link this in our footnotes. But I watched 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.080 a YouTube video of him a couple of years ago. 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.719 Uh that sounded weird. It wasn't a YouTube video of him. 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.680 It was him doing an interview that was helping on 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:46.320 YouTube Uncle Rod doing an unboxing bid. Uh. Here can 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:50.400 you imagine can you imagine him like doing having a 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:58.840 selfie stick? I would love to see him nowadays, like 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.000 his commentary on us um would be so fast. His 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.200 daughter is still alive. But what I was gonna say 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.320 is I watched the video on YouTube of him where 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.000 he was talking about censorship and how CBS had centered 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.600 the writers and what they were trying to get away 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.880 with and a lot of the times. Of course, his 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.480 commentary was on on people of coloring, the treatment of 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.320 people of color in marginalized groups in general, where they 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.600 would end up having to make them like an alien 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.200 or you know, a monster or something for you to 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.240 like feel for them because they weren't they weren't able 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.800 to make them people of color. And uh, he actually 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.040 says that you eventually start to censor yourself where you're 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.520 not even writing those stories. So if you already know 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.480 it's it's kind of fascinating, like the brain will just 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.200 start to center and and not even create those stories anymore. 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.080 It was it's a really fascinating interview, and we'll link it. 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.600 But yeah. He ended up volunteering at w NYC in 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.000 New York as an actor and writer in the summer 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.160 of nineteen forty six, and then the next year he 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.960 worked at a station as a pain intern in Antioch 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.480 work study program and then took a couple of odd 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.800 jobs and other radio stations in New York and Ohio. 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.080 He said, I learned time writing for a medium that 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.560 is measured in seconds. He also worked at the Antioch 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:14.600 Broadcasting Systems Radio Workshop and was managing the station within 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.800 a couple of years. Dan let He's Moving Up movie. 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.240 He was a hard worker. Uh. He wrote and directed 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.800 the programs and acted in them as well. Um, this 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.760 is kind of fascinating. So I actually read the twilight 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.560 Zone Companion highly recommended. There's a couple of different Twilight 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.840 Zone books out there. Have you read that one? Mellow? Oh, 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.600 I think you would like it. There's so much behind 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.040 the scenes for each they go through each episode. So 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.160 I actually got it inaudible, and I would listen to 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.480 it when I would clean and drive and stuff. But 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.520 it's behind the scenes of like how did this get made? 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.760 How this almost didn't get made? Other freak accidents that 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:53.680 happened in the episodes. Uh. And also he didn't write 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.400 all of them. Um. I know a lot of people 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:57.800 think that he wrote all of them, but a lot 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.560 of them were actually bought from They were teleplays or 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.400 they might have been a short story in a magazine 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:05.840 and he would buy the rights to it and then 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.400 adapt it. Uh, sometimes he would, and and then he 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.400 had other people working on his team as well. And 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.480 I can imagine like he wrote like an insane amount 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.440 or believe at the age of he had written forty 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.720 or forty nine episodes by that point, and he was like, Okay, 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:24.080 I finally need another writer. Yeah. Yeah, And well he 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.000 just wanted to be a writer. I don't know if 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.280 you know that, but they talked about that in the 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.000 book where he just wanted to be a writer for 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.480 the Twilight Zone and he didn't intend to be the host. 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.840 And looking at him like, you were the perfect host. 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.080 You're like handsome, but you're creepy and you're like stern 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.120 and have like a parental thing to you, but you're 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:45.520 also like, you know, ominous and uh yeah, I think 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:50.040 and he has gorgeous lush eyebrows. Um, so yeah he 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.560 But originally he actually just wanted to be a writer, 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.360 and he didn't because when he was hosting, he didn't 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.440 have an acting like he didn't have as much time 0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:02.360 to dedicate to writing. Uh, and I know that bothered him. 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:07.120 But hopping back into the past, while in college, Serling 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.720 won his first accolade as a writer. The radio program 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.840 Dr Christian is starting an annual scriptwriting contest. Eight years earlier, 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.440 thousands of scripts were sent in annually, but very few 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.520 can actually be produced. So certainly want a trip to 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.480 New York City and five hundred dollars for his radio 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.239 script to live a dream. He and his new wife 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:29.719 attended the awards broadcast on May eighteenth of ninette, where 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.160 he and the other winners were interviewed by the star 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:36.000 of Dr Christian, Geene Herschel. One of the other winners 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.240 that day was Earl Hamner Jr. Who also earned prizes 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.480 in the previous years, and later Hamner wrote scripts for 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.960 Sterling's The Twilight Zone. Also, I just wanted to drop 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.759 this fun fact. Five hundred dollars in ninety nine has 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.600 the same buying power as five thousand, one hundred and 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.680 fourteen dollars has today. It's like a nice little something 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.080 came up. I mean, you get that much in college, 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:03.000 you like? Hold up, that's true, that's true. We're about 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.680 to throw a dorm party. I would love to see 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.839 Rod Serling partying. Oh yeah, yeah. I wonder if any 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:11.600 of those cigarettes who's always so, if any of them 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:15.120 were blunts. Ever, you never know, uh so, Sterling said 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.640 of his time as a staff writer for radio. From 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.160 a writing point of view, radio ate up ideas that 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.560 might have put food on the table for weeks at 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.399 a future freelancing date. The minute you tie yourself down 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.760 to a radio or TV station, you write around the clock. 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.759 You rip out ideas, many of them irreplaceable, they go 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.480 on and consequently can never go on again. And sold 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.840 them for fifty dollars a week. Gosh, And he was 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.920 saying that back then. I mean, that seems small to us, 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.439 but you can't afford to give away ideas. They're too 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.239 damn hard to come by. If I had to do 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.359 it over, I wouldn't staff right at all. I'd find 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.640 some other way to support myself while getting a start 0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:51.520 as a writer. Holy crap, I'm like going through a 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.879 midlife crisis as we're as we're discussing this right now. Yes, 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.040 I know how many writers in our lives do you 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:58.719 think would agree with this as well? That you're kind 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.800 of just giving your ideas a for to a studio 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.400 for like such little pay, And especially his because he 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.600 was so like transformative, like the thought that he wrote 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.480 forty nine scripts by himself, and all of them anthology episodes. 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.840 It's pretty much on the equivalent of, like you wrote 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.279 a pilot like twice a week, so we'll we'll just 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.800 jump all the way to what we're here to talk about, 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.279 which is, uh, the Twilight Zone. And it had an 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:27.000 interesting kind of start, just kind of shows you how 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.680 old Hollywood used to work. I don't think the w 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:33.440 g A existed at this point because Sterling submitted the 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.800 time element to CBS, intending it to be a pilot 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.880 for his new weekly show, The Twilight Zone, but instead 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.320 CBS used the science fiction script for a new show 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.960 produced by Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball the Westinghouse Desilu 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.600 Playhouse in ninety eight. The story concerns a man who 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.680 has vivid nightmares of an attack on Pearl Harbor. The 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.880 man goes to a psychiatrist, and after the session, the 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.040 twist ending, a device which Sterling became known for, reveals 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.360 the patient had died at Pearl Harbor and the psychiatrist 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.640 was the one actually having the vivid dreams. The episode 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.400 received so much positive fan response that CBS agreed to 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.719 let Sterling go ahead with his pilot for the Twilight Zone. Oh, 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.200 I'm sorry. I'm sorry that my work that you yank 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.719 for me did so well that you agree to let 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.239 me keep making this thing that people are excited. I'm sorry. 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.479 I couldn't stopped laughing at the idea of Lucio ball 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:34.200 in this like serious job. What's so interesting here is 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.800 that that's such a sandwich and it's such a perfect 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.200 like wrap up to who Sterling was and into Twilight Zone, 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:45.080 because I mean, dreams about a World War two, Like 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.000 he said, the war left him with nightmares. So this 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.680 is really him, like just the beginning of him taking 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.880 what he was actually dealing with, putting it on paper, 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:59.640 and then making it into something amazing. I also just 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.839 wanted to be like, what a twist that was all 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.360 of the No, not all of them, but that was 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.239 a lot of his his most famous ones, I feel 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.520 like had a pretty big twist. Um and some of 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.520 them I still feel like you can't always tell. Some 0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.120 of them you can tell, but some of them you can't. 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.480 And that was always my favorite things about a lot 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.880 of the He was just so what a fascinating, interesting 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:25.920 man um. But yeah, let's talk about the Twilight Zone. Um, 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:38.759 after these messages, Yeah, let's do it. After these messages. Hey, 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.239 what's up y'all? Welcome back, and as promised, we are 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:48.120 backed with a power Ranger. Yeah. It is my buddy, 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:53.080 my friend, Peter Sdars. So how are you doing? Good? Dude? Good? Yeah, Peter. 0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:54.680 When he walked in, he was like, so what are 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.040 we talking about? You are the worst. I love you. 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.080 We're just such different co host. I feel like where 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:02.920 I would have had like an email and here's the 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.400 parking situation, and here's like I called him for parking 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:07.960 actually just ouside. I was like, is it okay for 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.759 me to park just like one? Peter, we have a 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:14.279 spot for you? What the lot is full today? And 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.560 all the even the one I was going to pay 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.160 the dumb eight dollars to part that's full. So I'm 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.480 like out on vine me too. Yeah down there. Yeah, 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.680 I don't know what's going on in Hollywood. I feel 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.600 very short. Look at my chair right now. What we 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.680 do have to talk about something? This is Peter's first 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:35.160 ever podcast ever. I'm just a little bit. I'm nervous, 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:39.840 Like you like, do live on camera stuff constantly. Yeah, 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:41.799 you know you did hyper Force and then you did 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.080 like the real Power Rangers. I mean, you're yeah, you're 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.400 one of the Power Rangers who got to be in 0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:51.680 multiple iterations of Power Rangers super like, Um, my goodness. 0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.480 I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure how it. 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.640 I guess because I think they're very different audiences, Like 0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.759 most people who watch Hyper Force aren't aware like my 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.120 Ninja Seal stuff. So it feels like there are two 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.400 different things completely. It doesn't feel like they're both like 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.759 Power Ranger and all in like one little thing. Oh nice. Well, 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.279 let's back it up a little bit and let's talk 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.919 about when did you first start hearing about Power Rangers. 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.520 Because we know all of us if I started talking 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.000 about that, we're gonna be here for like an hour. 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.520 What was your first introduction when you first remember seeing 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.719 Power Rangers. Um, I grew up in Indonesia, so my 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.800 first introduction of Power Rangers was actually Super Sentai. Yeah, 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.960 and you're like, yeah, I'm just I'm just on the 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.680 other side. But yeah, I think I remember it when 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.160 I was like super young, and then I kept watching 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.080 it and I grew up just watching it, you know, 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.400 So it's always been in my life. And then uh, 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.360 to get into the whole power ranger acting industry side. 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.359 It was actually Yoshi, Yeah, your older brother, right, yeah, 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.919 he's also done in Charge Blue. Um. He got into 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.480 the industry from doing like stunt stuff, so he did 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.440 like the suits and all that stuff and for the 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.400 live action shows, and so he got to meet some 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.240 of the rangers and from then on he was like, hey, guys, 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.000 how do you how do you get into this industry? 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:02.799 I want to be a power ranger, you know, because 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:09.200 like he could do flips, so they requirement, Yeah, that's 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:14.400 what you need to be able to do. We're out fips. 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.040 Sang me too. They're actually casting for it right now, 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:23.520 right now, it's down the street. I hit our manager up, 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.960 excuse me? Why was a sentence? No? But so he 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.439 did that and then so he got the casting raised 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.319 email and we legit just cold shot an email. And 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.080 we weren't in the acting industry at this time. I 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.680 was a student of architecture and my brother was doing mathematics. 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.200 He was just like, hey, can we audition and she 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.759 was like yeah, sure, So we came in and we 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.520 saw her and then we got really lucky. I think 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.000 it was just things just kind of worked out really well, 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.280 and we continued on all the way to screen testing 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.839 both me and Yoshi. Then they canned it because they 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.920 were like, actually there's a bit too they'd be testing it. 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.200 So um, come back in like six seven months, like 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.560 all right, cool, we came back No a megaphorce. That's 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.440 the first time that I actually got a taste of 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.239 the industry. Is like, because like you guys, you guys 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.920 act to you guys know, like the whole right when 0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.600 you see those papers, you see how much you're gonna 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:16.439 get paid, Yeah, and the promise like fantasizing in your head. Yeah, 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.279 just so people because people outside the industry don't know. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.440 So when your audition to act, usually like in a 0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.040 pilot or a bigger show, first you do your auditions 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:25.640 than you do your call backs, than what you do 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:29.319 is like a screen test slash chemistry test. What that 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.279 usually is. It varies for different studios, but mostly let's 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.480 just talk pilot season since it just happened and it's 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.440 easy to talk about. Um, the studio exects come in 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:41.640 and watch you do your auditions. It's a lot, and 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.680 they're like just most of them at the time will 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.520 be like stone cold, like yeah, it's just like the 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.399 SML auditions, they don't laugh. But before you do your 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.680 before you do your screen test, you get the contract 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.440 and you see how much you're going to be making 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.000 per episode. You see that money, and so that that 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.239 just ups to stay even more because now you know 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.359 how much you could be making and you don't even 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.120 have the job yet, but you're already seeing how much. Yeah, 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.000 you start to like imagine this life, you know. And 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.680 since that was like an architecture, I have been living 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.719 like non industry life for all my life. Seeing all that, 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.920 I thought that the contract itself was like binding and 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.200 I was like, oh god, my life has changed, you know. 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.319 And at the end of it, I got super close 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.080 and it was done like me when one other person. 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.240 And it got to the point where like I accidentally 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.160 got upload on IMDb before I heard back that I 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.120 didn't get it. So I was like, oh my god, 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.640 Oh my god, who did that? That's the worst you 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.839 could get in Big trouble for the thing is like 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.040 the Power Rangers fan base and communities super passionate. So 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:47.520 they found out who was. Yeah, they found everything out, 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.520 and so like they speculated, then eventually one by one 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.319 people found out who got casted and it was down 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.600 to like the last person and then they were like, 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.560 I think Peter got it, So I think they put 0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.600 on IMDb, so I thought I got it, didn't get it. 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:05.239 It was like first ever audition and it was like 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.799 first ever like rejection, and no one warned me how 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.920 how bad it would be. Like I've been through breakups, 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:17.120 but there is nothing like a heartbreak, you know, I 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.080 don't know. I would take twenty heartbreaks from like from 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.560 my partner then like a live dream. Yeah, that's hilarious. Wait, 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.920 so you this is so fascinating me. You have no 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:30.080 action background. Wow, I mean now people are gonna be 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.920 running out here like la la land this. That was 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.719 my first time with MEGAFORCET and then after that I 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.040 got into the industry from like commercial modeling because I 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.919 didn't I still don't have a theatrical and when you're 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:42.800 completely out of it, you have no idea how to 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:46.439 get any of this stuff. Even Google barely helps. Yeah. 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.600 So then I did that and then next season was 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.960 Dino Charged. That was two years later, and then by 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:52.640 this point I had gotten a little bit of practice 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.440 some commercials, but I've never gotten like actual training. So 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.239 we did that, and we went to producers and we 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.320 both got cut, me and my brother. And at this 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:01.960 point I was already friends with the casting driver, so 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.080 I like begged it. I was like, please please please 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.000 give us another show. Please, I swear to God we 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.399 will do better. Yeah, when she gave us another shot, 0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.560 which was super kind of her, eventually went down to 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.360 me against Yoshi was going out for Blue and I 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.120 was going out for Red, and they couldn't have two 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.880 Asians on the cast at that time. That I don't know. 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.560 So yeah, you actually eventually got it. Wow. This is 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.320 when I realized, like, oh, this industry isn't just fun 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:33.120 and games. Yea. When he left, I was like majorly depressed. 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:36.640 I took like I spent like fifteen thousand dollars eventually 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:40.120 in like classes. I drowned myself in classes. But that 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:43.680 ultimately helped me actually get into this industry. Series. Yeah, 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:45.880 you know, well, I think what you did, You know 0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.960 this is taking a step from nerd talking, going towards 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.239 actor talker just industry talk. What you did is you 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.840 took the positive route to deal with it. I feel 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.120 like a lot of times when people face rejection in 0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.799 this industry, they want to blame the industry and not 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.600 themselves better. But what you did is you took the 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.879 classes and you made yourself undeniable and then it paid off, 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:07.719 and that was That's kind of how you have to 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.600 treat rejection. Instead of like being like, these people aren't 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.359 giving it to me, you have to be like, Okay, 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.719 then I'm gonna get better and better until the point 0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.919 you can't say no. You look bad if you say 0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.720 no to me. Yeah. It's like it's like the audition 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:20.560 that we were talking about this morning, Like had I 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.160 known she wasn't going to read the lines, I would 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.120 have just been better. You know what, man, You know, 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.680 there's so many things I've been I feel like, if 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.560 you like, because we're both in classes, and I feel 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.560 like as comedy, well I can only speak for myself, 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.359 but I feel like being in comedy you kind of 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.839 like you coast off of that for a little bit, 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.239 Like you can make them laughing auditions, you can do that, 0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.520 but then you start to realize you're not getting it 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.319 because you don't have the acting technique that they want, Like, 0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.480 and then when you're in acting classes, you're like, oh, yeah, 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.560 I never thought to do literally any of that you know. 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.920 And it's so funny because the same thing as a comedian, 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.800 like looking at acting classes. You know, it's hard for 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.359 a comedian to take anything seriously, especially they're acting like 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.640 and you're like whatever, But it all it takes is 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.560 that one moment of you like do in the line, 0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.040 and then that teacher giving you the adjustment and then 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.680 seeing how it pops and you're like yeah, You're like 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.960 maybe this is uh yeah, and we'll just opens up 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.040 your range. I feel like to other now I can 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:14.439 go for drama roles, which is like I never ever 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.439 would have and I didn't even want to. Like when 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.520 they my acting teacher like made me take this like 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.279 drama course, I'm like, I don't want to do this. 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:22.640 I don't want and then I was like, oh, I 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:27.200 love it. I didn't realize I could cry on cute. Yeah, 0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.160 well I'm so living out here in this town. I 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.160 can cry at any time. I didn't realize I could 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:36.640 use that in my acting. Okay, so so yoh got it. 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.759 And then and you didn't And so you were here 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.440 and you took all these acting classes. Well at that 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:43.960 time too, I started taking a lot more seriously, not 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.960 just acting classes, like I started um writing my own scripts, 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.399 like phoning my own stuff. I started YouTube channel because 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.600 of that and which now has already died down. But 0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.719 you got busy, Yeah, I got busy. Well after leaving 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.799 Pott Rangers, it just no one else took over it 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.600 and I couldn't like but um so I started doing 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.560 that to actually like progressively do stuff. And I ended 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.640 up getting a manager from one of the auditions that 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.279 I did from like a self tape. And so after that, 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.520 the pilot season came when Ninja still was coming up, 0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.920 and at that time I had booked two pilots. One 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.840 of them was like an ABC free form the other 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.120 one was Disney, and I was like, I think I 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:19.960 think it might be okay. I think I might be 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:21.719 okay in this acting industry, even if I don't get 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.439 Power Rangers, you know, like I'm gonna be sweet. Then 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.080 when Power just came along and I was like, I 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:27.480 can't do this again. I don't want to break my 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.200 heart another time, you know, like it was so gut 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.879 wrenching the first second and third time, like this time, 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:34.960 I don't want to go through it again. And my 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.000 brother was like, you know what do you just gotta try, 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.399 because like, what's the worst that can happen? You book it? Yeah, 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.200 I mean yeah, I guess you're right. So then I 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:43.319 went into it and I was like, I'm not gonna 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.920 get invested. I already got two pilots going on. I'm sweet, 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.800 you know, and lo and behold. Of course, you always 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:53.440 get invested. Always. There's no like at first audition, you know, 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:55.560 maybe you could be like, Okay, cool, I'm done, you 0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.120 can let it go. When you get a call back, 0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:02.560 you're like yeah. So like incrementally, it's like first you're 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:04.719 like maybe invested five percent. The next thing you like, 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.080 next you know, you're like two thousand percent. What just 0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.360 happened there? So all that happened and I got all 0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.200 the way to the point of screen testing again. And 0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:14.960 at this point I was there, there were like two 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:16.759 other dudes who were like way better looking than me, 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.800 way younger than me, and they were like amazing at stunts. 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:21.960 I saw them doing it and I was like, frick, 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.799 They're not gonna have two Asian dudes on here, you know. 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.520 So I was just like feeling a little discouraged, but 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.040 I did it. Anyways, after all that was done, it 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:31.799 was quiet and you know, you guys know the screen 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.359 testing thing with the test option of like your time 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.319 is here to here, and once like you reach like 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.160 June or whatever, you have to be released from the 0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.480 test opic. So that means you at least know when 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.239 you don't get it, as opposed to like prior to. 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.759 So it got to the point of like I think 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.920 it was May no, no, yeah, it was June June three, 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.040 which was the day that it cut off. And it 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.040 was June twenty two at night, and I had not 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.359 heard anything back. And I was on on a shoe 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:56.799 that day. I was on a shoe with my brother 0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.000 and we were on film and uh, it was like 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.680 ten o'clock and of text from the producer saying like, um, hey, 0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.640 I'd like to talk to you. And at this point 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:08.520 I was like, twenty second, what is going on? So 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:10.160 I went up to my brother and I was like, hey, 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.640 do you check this out? Is either really good news 0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.920 are really bad news? Hoping that he'd be like he ha, yeah, 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:19.120 you should call him yeah, and so I was like yeah, 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.800 and then he was like oh um and at that 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.560 point his face just dropped, like completely dropped. He You 0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.800 could you could tell when somebody's not joking you, Like, 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.279 no matter how good of an actor they are, in 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.719 real life situations, you could tell when somebody ken. So 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.920 he was like, dude, um, you didn't get it. And 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.880 I was like, what, don't screw with me, dude, Like 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:39.759 this is you know how big this is to me, 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:41.440 how important this is to me. Like if if you 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.880 screw around with me right now, I will break down. 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.160 We're on set. I can't afford the breakdown. And he 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.360 was like, no, dude, like a Chip called me actually 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.799 two hours ago and told me like, hey, Peter didn't 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:54.879 get it. How should I tell him that he didn't 0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.920 get it? And I was like, oh my god, I 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.320 guess that's how. I was like, you gotta be joking. 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.080 So he called me and he was like, hey, you 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:04.840 didn't get it. Um, I don't have much time right 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.200 now because I'm actually in a meeting and I know 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.359 that you're on a shoot. Let me call you back. 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.040 I just want to talk to you because I do 0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:12.040 really care about you as a person, and I want 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:13.560 to let you know why you didn't get it, just 0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.360 so you understand that's not yeah exactly. And I was 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.399 like at that point, I honestly didn't care to talk 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:22.000 because I was so upset. But which one was for this? Again? 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:25.000 This was for Ninja Seal okay. Yeah, so this was 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.440 two years ago, I think, and so I was like, well, 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:28.719 if he was kind enough to go out of his 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:30.919 way to say that, I might as well just talk 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.399 to him, you know, and like at least maybe it'll 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.000 make me feel a little bit better why I didn't 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.880 get it. So after the shoet was done, this was 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.600 two in the morning, I was driving home and I 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.759 finally called him and he was like, hey, Peter, okay, um, 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:44.440 I really want to talk to you. If you're on 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.040 the on the street, can you pull over something? And 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.040 I was like alright, So I pull over and he 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.239 was like okay, well, um, the reason why you didn't 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.520 get it, Peter, or should I say Preston is because 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:58.800 you're Ninja Seal Blue. And I was like what what 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.280 what do you? What do you say? And I legit, 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.480 I don't know if I could cuss on here, but yeah, 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:09.879 we'll belie it. I was like, don't and he turns 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:11.279 out I got it. And the reason why he told 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.680 Yoshi that was because he wants to surprise him no people. 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:21.239 I love it. It's funny because I like, I know 0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:25.799 that they surprised Yoshi, but I was still I know. 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.200 That's why. That's why I took it for granted, because 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.799 you don't hear like executives doing that, Oh good thing. 0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:37.520 You didn't like cuss somebody off. I've given you my 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:41.280 heart and my soul. But man, you gotta that person 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:45.120 was really good because because because if he would have 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:47.439 been like, don't tell your brother, but you did get 0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:49.560 it and you were on set, you would have let 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.279 it slip. There's no way you would have been at it. 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:53.879 So he was like, I gotta wait till they get 0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.000 off set, and he's like, all right, this is what's 0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.000 going down, So tell tell the story because I really 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.600 like it's very cute, and we're gonna post to send 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.240 me the video so we can pa. You can actually 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.040 look it up. It's it's on Bethany's like she has 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.400 like all the back ends of it too. But so 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.719 after that, I had to wait two weeks before yos 0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:14.319 she could know, because after that it was two weeks 0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.920 until Power Morphicon, which is coming up soon. That's when 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:20.239 they do to reveal. So up until that time, I 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.120 was like still playing DND with my brother and I 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.040 was like trying to put little hints and stuff, you know, 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:27.960 but we're playing DND and like we passed by like this, um, 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.000 this martial arts gym right by because I play an 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:33.000 Emerald Nights and there's this martial arts place called a 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.160 Blue Dragon Martial Arts. And the day before Power work 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.920 On we drove past it and my sword, by the way, 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:43.000 it's a blue Dragon, so yo. She was like, hey, Peter, 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:47.440 look at that Blue Dragon Martial Arts, like just like that, 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:49.359 just the way I just said it. And I was like, 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.480 does this guy know It's like is he screwing with me? 0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:57.440 So then the day of Power Morphicon came and uh, 0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:58.960 I was gonna go down the thing and they were 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:01.040 like reading the names. They wanted to read me last 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:02.480 because they wanted to do the whole like surprise with 0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.680 the Ocean. At that point, I was already annoyed because 0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.160 I was like, man, yeah, he's pointed out multiple things 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.359 that shows me that he knows, like I know he knows, 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.320 and um the moment that like my name was supposed 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.640 to get called up, so it was like this person, uh, 0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:17.799 this color, this person, this color is this person. There 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:19.520 was like a beat, a pattern, you know, And then 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:20.960 it got to me and it was like and the 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.400 Blue Ranger and yeoh, she was supposed to read my 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:28.120 name and all I heard was and I was like, what, 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:30.160 what's going on? And then that's when I knew that 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.560 like he didn't know. Yeah, then he called my name 0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.280 and he could even say my name, Like the dude 0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.080 just started breaking down. And even to this day, like 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:38.680 every time I watched it, I still get feelings just 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:42.360 because of how raw his emotions were. Yeah, I'm pulling 0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:48.640 it up for Danny right now. It's like the cutest. Yeah. Yeah, 0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:52.680 we will definitely post it. I'm gonna get it. So 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.319 how crazy was it? Like? Right after that? What was 0:54:55.360 --> 0:55:00.359 the Because their fan base is pretty ravenous in eat 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:03.359 up everything. They're extremely passionate, and that's the one thing 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.800 that I will say, like I love about the Ranger 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:07.840 fan base. Like, but the thing is like I've already 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.920 kind of always been in semi spotlight with them because 0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.480 the Mega Foresting when they put me up on IMDb. 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.880 So a lot of the Ranger fans actually have like 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:20.560 stayed with me since eleven, Yeah, since two thousand eleven. 0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.480 Until I booked in two thousand sixteen, and then a 0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:24.439 lot of them were like, dude, you've been here since 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:29.239 day one and your brother was the last year, so 0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.759 that it just it just worked out really well in 0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:38.040 my favorite So I hope that you enjoyed the visit 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.400 down memory lane some of our favorite moments from Notificent, 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.080 and next week we will also have a couple more 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:47.320 of our favorite ones. Let us know what your favorite 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:51.959 episode and moments were from this past year. Yeah, yeah, 0:55:52.080 --> 0:56:00.480 because we love hearing from you, you know, Stay, it's 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:01.040 such a th