Speaker 1: It's the Son of the Bridge podcast. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Clon Harmon. This week's guest, Ryan Kreisler, works with me
Speaker 1: here at the Floridian. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: best destructors in the game. We talk a lot about
Speaker 1: golf chaos and managing the chaos of playing golf, and
Speaker 1: that's what this week's pot's about. How to manage the
Speaker 1: chaos of playing golf. And I think it's something that
Speaker 1: we talk about a lot with our players, and it's
Speaker 1: something that I think is not focused on enough the
Speaker 1: actual playing of the game, because when you're on the
Speaker 1: golf course, it's going to be chaotic, right. Things are
Speaker 1: going to happen, and it's how you deal with those
Speaker 1: situations that I think are really really important. But before
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Speaker 1: guess today is Ryan Chrysler. I've worked with Ryan for
Speaker 1: about twenty years now. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: best instructors in the game. Ryan I mean, one of
Speaker 1: the things that we're always talking about with our players
Speaker 1: is that kind of battle between technique and execution. And
Speaker 1: it's something I've talked about a lot on the podcast
Speaker 1: where I think most golfers are just going to predeposed
Speaker 1: to think of everything that happens on the golf course
Speaker 1: to them is technical and they've got to go straight
Speaker 1: to the driving range. And what we started to notice
Speaker 1: with a lot of the aspiring to our players with
Speaker 1: juniors is what's happening on the golf course isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: a representation of what's happening on the range. And one
Speaker 1: of the questions I mean I've been asked for twenty
Speaker 1: years from players is how do we simulate what happens
Speaker 1: on the golf course on the driving range? And I mean,
Speaker 1: I just don't think people are practicing playing the game
Speaker 1: of golf enough and everything is just golf swing and technique.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, the first problem we have is the driving
Speaker 2: range is not a golf course. It is a box
Speaker 2: with targets that don't move on perfectly flat lies with
Speaker 2: perfect balls, with.
Speaker 1: A ton of balls. You hit a bad shot, there's
Speaker 1: no consequence. You just roll one back over and you've
Speaker 1: got an entire bucket of balls. You've got an entire
Speaker 1: den caddy of balls, a purvan of balls. So you're right,
Speaker 1: there's not necessarily that importance on every single ball counting
Speaker 1: because you're working on your technique. You've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of ball You're gonna try a bunch of stuff. But
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between. Again, what I keep talking
Speaker 1: about as much as I can on the podcast, the
Speaker 1: difference between technique and execution. And I think if you
Speaker 1: are looking to try and lower your scores, the answer, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's golf swing. And I say this all the time.
Speaker 1: Everybody's golf swing can get better. Obviously having a better
Speaker 1: technical golf swing can help you on the golf course.
Speaker 1: But I say this to players all the time. Every
Speaker 1: single player in the game, he's trying to improve their
Speaker 1: golf swing. I mean, we just heard Ry Macero saying
Speaker 1: he spent three weeks in a simulator, not looking at ballflight,
Speaker 1: not looking at the golf ball is going, just working
Speaker 1: on the technical. Okay, that is the ultimate example of technique, right,
Speaker 1: put yourself in a room you're flying blind, so you're
Speaker 1: only working on the positions of the golf swing, which
Speaker 1: obviously have a huge impact on your scores, But there
Speaker 1: is an art to play the game of golf, which
Speaker 1: I think we're trying to have players focus more on.
Speaker 2: That, right And like Roy is the perfect example. I mean,
Speaker 2: no other sport you do that during the season, where
Speaker 2: Tom Brady or a bow Knicks sit on their throwing
Speaker 2: technique fundamentals for three straight weeks.
Speaker 1: While the season is going right, while the season is
Speaker 1: going you know, whatever team sport they're playing, whatever individual
Speaker 1: sport they're playing, maybe tennis a little bit, but all
Speaker 1: the team sports, there's no way they're going to try
Speaker 1: and tear something apart in the middle of a season.
Speaker 1: And I think the average golfer doesn't realize that. Every
Speaker 1: time they go out and play it is like they
Speaker 1: are a football team, a basketball team, a baseball team.
Speaker 1: You know, let's say you play fifty times a year.
Speaker 1: Let's say you pay twenty five times a year. That's
Speaker 1: your season. Those are your games. Those are your opportunities
Speaker 1: to play the game. They're not opportunities to go out
Speaker 1: and practice your technique. You do that on the driving range.
Speaker 1: So I also think that one of the things that
Speaker 1: we've I can think tried to get players to kind
Speaker 1: of zone in on the playing of the game should
Speaker 1: be sacred, right, that should be the most important thing.
Speaker 1: But I think the majority of people listening to this
Speaker 1: podcast and are trying to work on their golf games,
Speaker 1: they're only trying to do that on the driving range,
Speaker 1: and they hope that, Okay, all the work that I
Speaker 1: do on the driving range is going to somehow translate
Speaker 1: to me actually playing the game better.
Speaker 2: When you're doing that practice, it's nothing like how you play.
Speaker 2: It's nothing like the penalties you'll see. It's the only
Speaker 2: sport where practice is not on the same field. It's
Speaker 2: literally the only sport where practice is not on the
Speaker 2: same field.
Speaker 1: Tennis players, when they are practicing, they are practicing on
Speaker 1: a tennis court, right, So even if they're just warming up,
Speaker 1: you know, with a hitting partner, there's a net the
Speaker 1: court is to find if they're missing the court, if
Speaker 1: they're hitting the balls out of the court, if they're
Speaker 1: not hitting them in between the lines, if they're hitting
Speaker 1: him into the net. That's a big problem for tennis players.
Speaker 1: So I've never thought about that. You're right, golf is
Speaker 1: the only real sport that's practiced on a completely different field,
Speaker 1: basketball football, American football. They're all played and practiced on
Speaker 1: the same surface.
Speaker 2: And one hundred years ago, one hundred and fifty years ago,
Speaker 2: these clubs put in maybe a little bit of a
Speaker 2: practice seede just for warming up. It wasn't for practice,
Speaker 2: it wasn't designed for practice. And now some of the
Speaker 2: new modern clubs you're building these really extravagant practice tees.
Speaker 1: Which are great, right, they have a massive role in
Speaker 1: helping golfers get better, right, But it's still not quite
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: And so how do you practice real scenarios? And I
Speaker 2: think we've got a good way to do here, So.
Speaker 1: Why don't you dive in and tell like kind of
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do with players to get them
Speaker 1: into that play mode. I mean, you and I have
Speaker 1: talked and I've talked about it on the pod in
Speaker 1: the past. Tournament golfer can competitive players, but for the
Speaker 1: average fifteen twenty five handicap, a round of golf is
Speaker 1: it's their tournament, right, So how do you think that
Speaker 1: players can get into that mindset of saying, Okay, I've
Speaker 1: taken my practice, my technique practice. What tools are we
Speaker 1: trying to give them and what tools do you think
Speaker 1: are important in practice? That isn't technique, right, it's basically
Speaker 1: the ability to handle duress.
Speaker 2: Right. So the military you train under duress, right. In
Speaker 2: football you're training under a coach helling, you under duress,
Speaker 2: two minute offense, you know things like that, right. So
Speaker 2: you have to create a system or a practice system
Speaker 2: that creates duress. And the easy first step is to
Speaker 2: maybe create a group environment or a team environment and
Speaker 2: make sure your responsibility to complete this task. Let's say
Speaker 2: it's seven drives out of ten inside boundaries is done
Speaker 2: in a group environment with a penalty. And the games
Speaker 2: we're gonna use tomorrow is you're gonna have to run
Speaker 2: basically a half mile if you don't complete seven out
Speaker 2: of ten drives down our window, right, And so you
Speaker 2: have that external pressure, you have that intrinsic motivation not
Speaker 2: to have to run. But even if you get six
Speaker 2: out of ten, you're gonna throw in a mile of cardio,
Speaker 2: come back, and you're gonna do it again. And what
Speaker 2: that does is really simulate your physiological response on the
Speaker 2: golf course to your practice. And that's one of the
Speaker 2: key things that doctor Doris talks about is we don't
Speaker 2: practice under duress, right, So we can create these conditions,
Speaker 2: these tasks that are seen maybe relatively easy. But when
Speaker 2: you start adding heart rate, start adding accountability to the
Speaker 2: group around you, now it starts to get interesting. And
Speaker 2: now it starts to create this sense of practice being
Speaker 2: super valuable and super close to what it is on
Speaker 2: the actual course.
Speaker 1: One of the things I think players struggle with is
Speaker 1: they work a lot on their technique, right. They work mechanics, mechanics, mechanics, mechanics,
Speaker 1: the drills, drills, drills. The club's getting too deep inside
Speaker 1: if you're coming over the top of it, you're doing
Speaker 1: drills to try and shallow it out, whatever that is.
Speaker 1: And I think the disconnect with a lot of players
Speaker 1: is they work NonStop on their technique and then the
Speaker 1: test is when they go play golf, right.
Speaker 2: And the test needs to be before golf.
Speaker 1: So I always look at, you know, what we're working
Speaker 1: on from a technique standpoint, Like if you work in
Speaker 1: a Michelin Star restaurant, right, if they're going to come
Speaker 1: up with a new dish, right, they practice it for
Speaker 1: months and months and months, and they refine it and
Speaker 1: they refine it, and they refine it. They just don't
Speaker 1: come out with a brand new dish for the menu
Speaker 1: Friday night, three hundred people in the restaurant, busiest night,
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, hey, I've got this new dish we're
Speaker 1: gonna putut. We're gonna put it on the menu. We've
Speaker 1: never really tried it. I've tried it once, and we're
Speaker 1: going to see if it works. The probability of that
Speaker 1: tasting good being good is slim. So what they do
Speaker 1: is they practice it, They practice it, they refine it,
Speaker 1: then they practice making it to see if they can
Speaker 1: make it in the right time, and then after months
Speaker 1: of work and months of refinement, they say, okay, we
Speaker 1: know it works in a controlled environment, right. We know
Speaker 1: that because we've tested it, We've tested how fast we
Speaker 1: can make it, we've tested the time element all that.
Speaker 1: Then only then do we put it out on the
Speaker 1: menu for people to taste in a restaurant environment. And
Speaker 1: I think what I'm always trying to ask players to
Speaker 1: do is listen, work your technique, work your drills. That's great,
Speaker 1: But then in a practice type situation where you're not
Speaker 1: working on your technique, where you're working on another task,
Speaker 1: working on having to complete something then we're going to
Speaker 1: see quite quickly if anything that you're working on technique
Speaker 1: wise actually really does work.
Speaker 2: This is not uncommon in other fields, like military units
Speaker 2: don't go in a battle without a plan, all right.
Speaker 2: Football teams don't go into the games without a game plan,
Speaker 2: similar to other sports, right. And so what we're trying
Speaker 2: to do basically is you gotta have like a battle
Speaker 2: tested technique system way of playing before you get to
Speaker 2: the golf course, right, And it has to be done
Speaker 2: under duress because when you're playing, even with your buddies,
Speaker 2: even with your friends out there, there's still a little
Speaker 2: bit of edge, there's a NASA going on. There's something right,
Speaker 2: and it's a little more extreme obviously when you get
Speaker 2: the tournaments and junior tournaments, money craw Firescu's cool.
Speaker 1: Trying to win your club championship, trying to win your
Speaker 1: flight in you know, the monthly medal, trying to win
Speaker 1: you know, the ladies club champion. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: that tournament is. The Masters is important and incredibly famous
Speaker 1: for putting players under pressure. That's the tournament everybody wants
Speaker 1: to win. But sometimes if you're trying to break one
Speaker 1: hundreds for the first time. If you're trying to break
Speaker 1: ninety eighty, trying to break power for the first time,
Speaker 1: that is the equivalent of your major championship, right, that
Speaker 1: is your masters You were going to feel things all
Speaker 1: the time. When we've really started to do we call
Speaker 1: it round defense. We get all of our competitive players,
Speaker 1: a lot of our juniors, a lot of the people
Speaker 1: that are trying to play, you know, on various tours
Speaker 1: to get their tour cards. We every week have what
Speaker 1: we call round defense. We get everybody in a team environment,
Speaker 1: We get them in a boardroom and we put their
Speaker 1: scorecard up on screen. We sometimes get another screen where
Speaker 1: it has the GPS of the course, and then we
Speaker 1: basically go through and have the players talk us through
Speaker 1: their rounds, talk us through, Okay, the birdies you made,
Speaker 1: but more importantly the mistakes you made. So anytime we
Speaker 1: see kind of big numbers on the scorecard, right, doubles,
Speaker 1: triple bogis, and then the other thing that we're constantly
Speaker 1: looking at, which I think is a great way for
Speaker 1: everyone else to look at their score cards. Look at
Speaker 1: what you're doing on the par fives, and look at
Speaker 1: what you're doing on the par threes. The par fives
Speaker 1: or the legitimate scoring opportunities that we all have. Right,
Speaker 1: Almost all the tour players that you see on tour,
Speaker 1: they're killing the par fives, right, They're not losing. So
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, the majority, if not all,
Speaker 1: of the players on the PGA too, are under par
Speaker 1: on the par five. So we're starting to look at
Speaker 1: their scores and actually challenging them when they do make
Speaker 1: a big number, when they do make a double, when
Speaker 1: they do make a triple, say okay, talk us through
Speaker 1: the mistake that you made.
Speaker 2: We had round offense with Dubai a couple of weeks ago, and.
Speaker 1: We had three kids. They're all brothers, two twins. They're
Speaker 1: really good players. They're kind of in that thirteen to
Speaker 1: seventeen range. They're super super competitive. They played in a tournament,
Speaker 1: a big junior tournament the Tummy Fleet would put on
Speaker 1: out in Dubai. It got Wagger rankings, It was contioned
Speaker 1: with the AJGA, and one of the brothers won it.
Speaker 1: But the first brother shoots sixty five the first day, right,
Speaker 1: and that's the lowest round of golf he's ever played
Speaker 1: in competition. Right, followed up the second day with I
Speaker 1: think what seventy five made a couple of big numbers.
Speaker 1: But talking to this player about what he was thinking
Speaker 1: in the first round versus what he was thinking in
Speaker 1: the second round was really I found interesting. And I
Speaker 1: think you zoned in on it. You were on a
Speaker 1: zoom call. I you're you know, connecting through zoom, but
Speaker 1: you said sixty five. You were leading, I think he
Speaker 1: was leading by four or five, and you said to him,
Speaker 1: have you ever shot a score that low in a tournament?
Speaker 1: And he said no. So that is the equivalent of
Speaker 1: being a mountain climber and you're trying to climb Mount
Speaker 1: Everest and you've just never been that high on the
Speaker 1: mountain before, right, So you don't know what you're going
Speaker 1: to do in that situation. And I think the following
Speaker 1: day is a great example of what we see a lot.
Speaker 1: You're going to have a good score the first day
Speaker 1: and then the second day based off of I think expectations.
Speaker 2: Just hanging on trying to get down the hill, right.
Speaker 2: And one of the things we really preach is the
Speaker 2: journey or the process. So it's like sixty five and
Speaker 2: now what right? Seventy five? Now what right? So those
Speaker 2: those peaks and valleys are gonna be there in golf.
Speaker 2: But what do you do now? What do you do next?
Speaker 2: And that's one of the big things we talk about
Speaker 2: during these sessions is like, this is the first time
Speaker 2: you've actually played a second round of a tournament with
Speaker 2: a three or four shot lead. It's new, it's a
Speaker 2: new tapic golf, right, you've never done this before.
Speaker 1: You see this a lot Ryan on players that have
Speaker 1: that really good front nine, right, They'll be maybe one
Speaker 1: two under on the front So then the back nine
Speaker 1: a lot of times just goes into Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to try and go into prevent defense. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to try for the next nine holes to
Speaker 1: not make any bad swings, to not hit any bad shots,
Speaker 1: to not mess up. And what ends up happening?
Speaker 2: And it's up because nobody plays golf like that, right,
Speaker 2: So it takes experience, takes practice, and we try to
Speaker 2: assimilate those situations in our practice.
Speaker 1: I think of the things Nico Darris, who's been on
Speaker 1: the podcast before, Nico's big on heart rate, and one
Speaker 1: of the things I think that we're finding is the
Speaker 1: simulation in practice. Again on a driving range, there's no
Speaker 1: consequences right, you're just hitting balls. You hit a bad one,
Speaker 1: you scoop another one up. So there's there's no consequence.
Speaker 1: Your heart rate doesn't get up, you're not, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of in a heightened state, both physically and mentally.
Speaker 1: And I think Nico's tapped into you know, we've started
Speaker 1: putting heart rate monitors, you know, on players to where
Speaker 1: we can say, okay, before you actually have to complete
Speaker 1: this drill, this task, this kind of simulation of shots,
Speaker 1: you have to get your heart rate up and then
Speaker 1: you we also, I think are finding that in a
Speaker 1: practice environment, getting the heart rates up, but then having
Speaker 1: a task that you have to complete with outcomes, consequences
Speaker 1: for outcomes, but in a time specific spot three minutes
Speaker 1: five and it's whatever it is, that's what you're going
Speaker 1: to be feeling on the golf course.
Speaker 2: Golf which are real good at like finishing the bucket right,
Speaker 2: taking a handful of balls, hitting the chips and we're done, right.
Speaker 2: And so one of our concepts is you cannot move
Speaker 2: on to the next task without completing the task prior, right,
Speaker 2: and so we've got to get you hyped up. We
Speaker 2: got to hit you seven out of ten draws seven
Speaker 2: out of ten fades, whatever the situation is, and if
Speaker 2: you don't do it, there's a penalty for it. And
Speaker 2: there's also a penalty for it in the group setting.
Speaker 2: You got some peer pressure now working against you, and
Speaker 2: if you've got to run to the stops, hunt and back,
Speaker 2: that's just what the task calls for. Right, that's the journey,
Speaker 2: that's the process, And you got it used to playing
Speaker 2: under those situations and under that duress as you move
Speaker 2: through this career that you're trying to play golf in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think getting into those heightened states, both
Speaker 1: physically and mentally is the chaos that is golf at
Speaker 1: the competitive level. I mean Brooks Kepto's five time Major
Speaker 1: champion John stub I think those two are very very
Speaker 1: good on the golf course at managing the chaos. They're
Speaker 1: very good at kind of staying in the present. They're
Speaker 1: very good at kind of controlling their emotions. I think
Speaker 1: Brooks is one of the best at when the pressure
Speaker 1: gets the highest. Everyone says they love pressure, right, but
Speaker 1: as you know, we've heard from many famous athletes, pressure
Speaker 1: is a privilege. And the more that you can be
Speaker 1: under pressure in your practice, the better you are.
Speaker 2: Going to perform on the golf course. We talk about
Speaker 2: it's like a saving principle. We talk about the practice
Speaker 2: being tougher than the actual event. So we want you
Speaker 2: to get to the tournament. If it's a junior, it's
Speaker 2: on the weekend. If it's a pro, it's a Monday
Speaker 2: or it starts Thursday. We want to practice so extreme
Speaker 2: and so hard that the tournament feels like the fun part.
Speaker 1: That's why they call it playing golf. You are playing
Speaker 1: a game. They give you a scorecard, they tell you
Speaker 1: what the rules are, they take you to a specific
Speaker 1: field that has boundaries and obstacles stuff. But everything that
Speaker 1: is about playing the game of golf is given to
Speaker 1: you beforehand. So if you think about a scorecard, and
Speaker 1: this is one of the other things that I always
Speaker 1: say to specifically the juniors, if you look at a
Speaker 1: scorecard on a round of golf, look at how small
Speaker 1: the boxes are. The boxes are only big enough for
Speaker 1: you to put a score down. But when you make
Speaker 1: a big number, when you make a double bogie, when
Speaker 1: you make a triple bogie, there is this long drawn
Speaker 1: out narrative, almost novel type story. Every time we question
Speaker 1: one of the players that's made a big number. There's
Speaker 1: always this big, long, drawn out, you know, story as
Speaker 1: to how they made the double. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that I always say to them, so they go
Speaker 1: through this whole thing and they, you know, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm standing on the tee and I hit one, and
Speaker 1: then I hit it in the water. So then the
Speaker 1: drop I get goes into a hole, and then I
Speaker 1: tried to go for the green, but then it clipped
Speaker 1: the tree, and then it hit a sprinkler head, and
Speaker 1: then it kicked out. About there's this big, long narrative,
Speaker 1: and I, you and I we will sit in these
Speaker 1: conference room and listen to these people talk about this,
Speaker 1: and at the end of it, I'll just say, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares how you made the double. Try to stop
Speaker 1: making doubles and triples. Look at the decision making process
Speaker 1: that is called it. Why do you think golfers when
Speaker 1: they do get out of position, Ryan, why do you
Speaker 1: think they become so aggressive with their shot selection. So
Speaker 1: you've hooked to drive into the trees, and now you know,
Speaker 1: let's say you're one hundred and you know, sixty five
Speaker 1: yards out, you've got some treat trouble you're in the rough.
Speaker 1: The li's not good, it's not a flat lie. Almost
Speaker 1: all the time players just go, okay, I just push
Speaker 1: all my chips into the middle of the table, and
Speaker 1: I just go all in on this shot.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of different factors to this. Number One,
Speaker 2: they watch too much golf on TV, right, so they
Speaker 2: see the best players hitting the best shots even in
Speaker 2: recovery situations. Number Two, they are eternally optimistic that they
Speaker 2: can actually do this despite never having hit a finesse
Speaker 2: practice three wood from two point fifty, which is one
Speaker 2: of the Dubai kids talked about. He's like, dropped it
Speaker 2: hitting three. Now he's gonna try to finesse it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So one of the kids that we were teaching, so
Speaker 1: the Race for Dubai Tournament, which will be on TV
Speaker 1: this weekend from Jamier Golf, estates the eighteenth poles a
Speaker 1: hard five. There's a creek that kind of goes right
Speaker 1: down the middle. He hid it in the water off
Speaker 1: the tee. Then he dropped it and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: the lie was a little bit still in the middle
Speaker 1: of the you know, in the fairway, but all a
Speaker 1: little bit below his feet. There's you know, a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff around the greens. So he said, you know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of in between like three wood and
Speaker 1: five wood or something like that. So he tries to
Speaker 1: finesse kind of three finger a high cut soft three
Speaker 1: wood from two fifty to a front pin with not
Speaker 1: a lot of landing era. I mean, he's just rinse
Speaker 1: one in the water. So now he's going to again.
Speaker 1: Now he's pushing all of his chips into the middle
Speaker 1: of the table and basically, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 1: just as fuck it. I Am just going all in here,
Speaker 1: and there's no thought process of what happens after that
Speaker 1: shot if he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Pull it off. And we see this sometimes like in football,
Speaker 2: the quarterback just thrown it up right. But the real
Speaker 2: problem is that that's just how golfers have been trained
Speaker 2: and how they've been brought up. They practice until they
Speaker 2: get it right. When you go to other organizations New
Speaker 2: England Patriots, the military, the army specifically, those units practice
Speaker 2: until they can't get it wrong, and so they're out
Speaker 2: there until it becomes automatic.
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge thing for everyone that you
Speaker 1: just said. There, everyone thinks I'm going to practice until
Speaker 1: it's perfect, but the best practice until they can't get
Speaker 1: it wrong. The other thing I think Ryan that we
Speaker 1: see is we see players go to the golf.
Speaker 2: Course and.
Speaker 1: They don't expect anything bad to happen, regardless of their
Speaker 1: handicap range. Right. They think that the lies are always
Speaker 1: going to be perfect, they think the conditions are always
Speaker 1: going to be perfect. They think everything is going to
Speaker 1: be perfect. I mean there are times where players will
Speaker 1: come off and they'll shoot kind of even one over,
Speaker 1: you know, tour players, and you'll talk to the caddies
Speaker 1: and they'll say, listen, every single club today was in between, right.
Speaker 1: We didn't have one good number. We were constantly in
Speaker 1: between seven and eight. We were constantly in between five
Speaker 1: and four, and that constant battle. We just we just
Speaker 1: struggle to get some decent numbers. And I think when
Speaker 1: that happens to normal regular golfers, it's almost like they
Speaker 1: don't prepare for the worst. They're only preparing for the best.
Speaker 1: Every club they choose, whatever yardage it is, most people
Speaker 1: will choose a club that they say, all right, if
Speaker 1: I flush this right in the middle of the club,
Speaker 1: face hit the best seven iron I've ever hit. That
Speaker 1: seven iron is going.
Speaker 2: To carry the distance that I need to carry it
Speaker 2: for this flag, right, And maybe it happens in practice
Speaker 2: six out of ten times, but on the course in
Speaker 2: reality maybe it's three out of ten times. Right. So
Speaker 2: the data just doesn't support the decision making because they're
Speaker 2: eternally optimistic.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said this on the pot before. Richard
Speaker 1: Bland came in last year and spent some time with
Speaker 1: some of our players that are trying to compete, and
Speaker 1: he said, listen, if you get into trouble, and I've
Speaker 1: said this before, but I'll say it again, it's very,
Speaker 1: very impactful and very powerful if you get into trouble
Speaker 1: and you are going to try and hit some sort
Speaker 1: of recovery shot to get to the green. Richard Bland said, Listen,
Speaker 1: I always say to myself, Okay, if I had ten
Speaker 1: balls from this situation, could I get five of them
Speaker 1: on the green. If I can't get five on the
Speaker 1: green from this, I'm probably going to struggle with one.
Speaker 1: So the decision making process of a player that he
Speaker 1: gets in trouble off the tee needs to be what getting.
Speaker 2: Trouble off the tee needs to be? Basically, what club
Speaker 2: do I have in my bag today that is actually working,
Speaker 2: so I can get it into the fairway since penalty
Speaker 2: shots are the number one reason why score start high.
Speaker 2: And it's a domino, right, So we put ourselves on
Speaker 2: a defensive because we're taking driver, because maybe the people
Speaker 2: in the group are taking driver and it's either block right,
Speaker 2: block left, whatever, and we just have to let it
Speaker 2: go and move on to the next club or the
Speaker 2: next shot right, and being able to take a moment,
Speaker 2: take a pause and make that decision is going to
Speaker 2: save you shots throughout the rest of the round.
Speaker 1: In the military, they call that a tactical pause. So
Speaker 1: explain what that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite simply, it's taking a knee when you're undercover,
Speaker 2: right and trying to reassess the plan of action and
Speaker 2: our advisors, an army ranger just gave us a simple mission. Example.
Speaker 2: When we're going on a mission to eliminate or arrest
Speaker 2: to terrorists and there's a sniper in a building that
Speaker 2: we didn't account for. Most military units will go after
Speaker 2: the sniper because you know, the man next to me
Speaker 2: got shot, right. The rangers will back up, reposition, take cover,
Speaker 2: and create a new plan to get to the mission right.
Speaker 2: And if they take out the sniper on the way over.
Speaker 2: It's really not even a factor. They're trying to get
Speaker 2: around that and go back to focusing on the mission,
Speaker 2: which in golf basically is how can I make power
Speaker 2: in this next hole? Right? And when you're trying to
Speaker 2: either outplay the competition, meaning you're trying to hit driver
Speaker 2: because they hit driver, or you're trying to hit a
Speaker 2: shot that's close that's not your shot shape because your
Speaker 2: buddy just hit the same shot and just flagged it,
Speaker 2: or hit club that you know on a par three
Speaker 2: to where you know you can't hit the golf ball
Speaker 2: get it on the pin. If the you know, one
Speaker 2: seventy five and your your your playing partner pulls out
Speaker 2: you know, eight iron, right, you pull out eight iron,
Speaker 2: you probably know that you're not going to hit it
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty five, but you do it anyway.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's like that that shot that doctor Joe Parent
Speaker 2: talks about in Zen Golf. You just do it anyway.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like no other sport organization or even you
Speaker 2: in a business setting are just going to do something
Speaker 2: because of I'm just going to do this anyway. Right.
Speaker 1: One of the things I find amazing. When we're in
Speaker 1: round defense is when players will hit bad shots, bad drives,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times I record it. And I
Speaker 1: remember one specifically with a young player, you know, kid
Speaker 1: that played Division one color golf. He was trying to play,
Speaker 1: he is trying to play a minor league, mini tour
Speaker 1: event down here, you know, professional, and he said, okay,
Speaker 1: so I hit my driver out of bounds, and then
Speaker 1: I went back and reteat it, and I knew it
Speaker 1: was the wrong play, but I reteat driver and then
Speaker 1: hit that one over and and I actually stopped and
Speaker 1: played the recording. I said, you actually said you knew
Speaker 1: it was the wrong play, the wrong decision, but you
Speaker 1: did it anyway. That makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2: It's it's freaking crazy. I mean, come on, right, no
Speaker 2: other sport, business, setting, whatever, would ever do something like that.
Speaker 2: But here we are in golf, just flying by our
Speaker 2: ass and here we go, We're just gonna do it.
Speaker 1: What are some tools for everyone listening? Listen, we're doing
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff in a team environment. You know,
Speaker 1: we're having them. You know, the consequences are push ups,
Speaker 1: running stuff in the gym. Right for the average person listening,
Speaker 1: that's not part of a group that's just doing it
Speaker 1: by themselves. What are some things that they can do?
Speaker 1: Give me some drills that and some games that they
Speaker 1: could play, and some consequences that they could implement for themselves.
Speaker 2: Number one, my favorite one is to go play in
Speaker 2: your Saturday morning group with one ball, and now see
Speaker 2: how you feel you're going to have to make decisions
Speaker 2: because number one, if you run out of balls and
Speaker 2: it's going to be pretty embarrassing you've only got one,
Speaker 2: you can keep it a secret amongst the group, or
Speaker 2: you can tell everybody.
Speaker 1: But we do that a couple of times a month.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We will get our players that we work with, we'll
Speaker 1: get them in a group setting, and the task is
Speaker 1: they go out and play on the golf course. They
Speaker 1: have one ball in their back right and the winner
Speaker 1: and the goal is to see who can play the
Speaker 1: most amount of holes with one ball, which means you
Speaker 1: hit it out of bounds, you're done, You hit it
Speaker 1: in the water, you're done, you lose one, you're done.
Speaker 1: So the object isn't the score that you're making. The
Speaker 1: object is to just keep going as long as you
Speaker 1: can with one golf ball. The decisions that you have
Speaker 1: to make if you get into trouble. If there is
Speaker 1: trouble out of bounds, water and stuff, the one ball
Speaker 1: that you've got, you will make much different decisions then
Speaker 1: if you've just got one in your back pocket and
Speaker 1: you rinse one in the water and then you just
Speaker 1: throw another one down.
Speaker 2: And the other way we do it, basically is this
Speaker 2: coming up with tax and tasks are basically hitting a
Speaker 2: certain amount of balls that achieves some sort of objective.
Speaker 2: So if it's a wedge shot from one hundred yards
Speaker 2: and you have a definable green on your practice tea,
Speaker 2: or maybe just boundaries that you can visualize on the
Speaker 2: practice tee, if you were to get five out of five,
Speaker 2: that'd be a great wedge practice. Let's say, now let's
Speaker 2: raise the stakes, let's take it. You know, maybe there's
Speaker 2: a tighter boundary, so whether it's trees or clouds or bunkers,
Speaker 2: and let's say if you don't make the objective five
Speaker 2: out of five, then you're not allowed to use that
Speaker 2: club for the round. Right, So the club gets ejected,
Speaker 2: it's not approoved for play because it doesn't meet the
Speaker 2: criteria required to play. Right. You can do that with
Speaker 2: wedges you can do that with irons, you can that
Speaker 2: with driver, just creating these imaginary boundaries that they're not
Speaker 2: defined on the practice team and just making sure that
Speaker 2: if they don't complete the test, they don't make the game. Right,
Speaker 2: So you go into the game with six clubs in
Speaker 2: the bag. Seven clubs in the bag, and now we
Speaker 2: have to play the course with a limited arsenal to
Speaker 2: what we have.
Speaker 1: I mean, you also have to learn if you don't
Speaker 1: have your lot weedge ne'ar in a bunker and you
Speaker 1: only have it at a nine iron, right, You've got
Speaker 1: to learn how to get out of difficulty. With different
Speaker 1: golf clubs. I think everybody has their kind of go
Speaker 1: to golf clubs around the greens. Everybody kind of has
Speaker 1: their go to golf clubs when they practice, and I
Speaker 1: think what we try and do is get players out
Speaker 1: of that comfort zone and say, okay, I know that's
Speaker 1: you know, I know you would never play the shot.
Speaker 1: I did this a couple of weeks ago when I
Speaker 1: was in Dubai. There were two young juniors and we
Speaker 1: were going over and we're going to work on their wedges.
Speaker 1: And one of the players and these were young players,
Speaker 1: I mean the twelve thirteen, fourteen years old. Well, one
Speaker 1: of them said, I said, okay, so what do you
Speaker 1: want to try and work on? He said, well, I
Speaker 1: want to take spin and speed off of my wedges.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, if somebody told you to say that,
Speaker 1: But they said okay. So I gave them targets and said, okay.
Speaker 1: We had like a wedge distance that was like sixty yards,
Speaker 1: and what's the first club they pull out of their
Speaker 1: back lob wedge right, immediately go to lob wedge, and
Speaker 1: now they're going to try and take speed and spin off.
Speaker 1: So they're going to start to swing slower and the
Speaker 1: lob wedge is going to go no distance. By the
Speaker 1: time we finished, we were hitting pitching wedges and nine
Speaker 1: irons from sixty yards, flighting them down, controlling the length
Speaker 1: of the backswing, controlling the length of the follow through.
Speaker 1: And I think they were blown away that how they
Speaker 1: eventually got to taking some speed off of their wedges
Speaker 1: was very different than what they thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be. They thought it was just going to be
Speaker 1: trying to master the lob wedge. So then what we
Speaker 1: ended up doing is we worked on trying to take
Speaker 1: some spin and some speed off with a pitching wedge
Speaker 1: from six yards. By the time we give them a sixty,
Speaker 1: they don't even want to hit the sixty right. They're saying, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll just chip flight my fifty four right or my
Speaker 1: sand wedge is supposed to using my lob wedge. And
Speaker 1: once we started moving to different targets, it was very
Speaker 1: interesting that the clubs that they would normally pick they didn't.
Speaker 1: Their dibbots got better. They understood, you know what the
Speaker 1: length of the backswing and the follow through is. By
Speaker 1: just using a different tool than they're used.
Speaker 2: To use, you're basically taking the technique request out of
Speaker 2: the player and putting them into a place where they
Speaker 2: have to solve problems. That is basically what happens on
Speaker 2: the golf course. You got to solve the problem with
Speaker 2: the first te get to the first fairway, get to
Speaker 2: the first green. It's basically problem solving.
Speaker 1: I mean you can make You can snaphook your drive,
Speaker 1: hit it behind a tree, right, chip out, and then
Speaker 1: hold a bunker shot and the score you write down
Speaker 1: looks very different than if you pipeoin down the middle
Speaker 1: of the fairy pipeline to fifteen feet and put it
Speaker 1: in so you know, my dad used to always tell it.
Speaker 1: There's no points. You don't get any points for style
Speaker 1: in golf, right, It's it's not a style competition. So
Speaker 1: when we're trying to have players in these tasks and
Speaker 1: in these drills, there's no right answer. The only right
Speaker 1: answer is can you achieve the task? Can you win
Speaker 1: the game that you're trying to play? Can you figure
Speaker 1: out how to solve the problem? That is one thing
Speaker 1: that I say that I probably said more to the
Speaker 1: juniors when I was in Dubai a couple of weeks ago. Listen,
Speaker 1: this is a problem that we have to solve, right,
Speaker 1: So the game has given you a problem that you've
Speaker 1: got to solve.
Speaker 2: Problem solving is a great learning environment because you're not
Speaker 2: focused either working as a team or as a pairt.
Speaker 1: Force.
Speaker 2: In's a alternate shot. Let's say you're also focused on
Speaker 2: an external solution to the problem, basically versus the internal
Speaker 2: is my swing care? Am I doing something incorrect? Am
Speaker 2: I doing what I'm supposed to be doing with my grip? Whatever?
Speaker 2: All that internal intrinsic technique questions disappear when I'm faced
Speaker 2: with I actually got to solve this with whatever tools
Speaker 2: and whatever I have in myself that day.
Speaker 1: I think most great athletes, yes, they love the hard work,
Speaker 1: they love the practice. But I think so many golfers
Speaker 1: feel so much more comfortable and confident on the driving
Speaker 1: range than they do on the golf course. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit like they're sailing. They're great at sailing in
Speaker 1: the harbor. They're great at sailing, you know, not in
Speaker 1: the big, big ocean. But then the only thing that
Speaker 1: matters is, Okay, it's great if you can sail in
Speaker 1: a control environment, but can you actually really sail when
Speaker 1: it matters. I think a lot of you know about
Speaker 1: playing golf on the golf course like pilots, Right, everything's
Speaker 1: fine when the autopilot's on thirty five thousand feet and
Speaker 1: the seat belt signs off and the flights. The skill
Speaker 1: is a pilot is when something goes wrong.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, just Michael Jordan, you know, his practices
Speaker 2: were like the worst to be around on his team
Speaker 2: with the Bulls. Nobody really enjoyed his intensity. They appreciated it,
Speaker 2: and by the time they got to the game they
Speaker 2: could see why. Right, And so golfers, golfers show up
Speaker 2: for practice and it's like, man, it's such a great day,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit this bucket of balls. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on. Oh, I'm gonna turn around and
Speaker 2: hit some pitch shots over here. Nothing like how you play,
Speaker 2: nothing with how you play. And it's just a systemic
Speaker 2: infrastructure problem with golf. I believe.
Speaker 1: I think you want to get more comfortable as a
Speaker 1: golfer on the field that you're playing on the golf course,
Speaker 1: then that comfort of going back to drivers. A lot
Speaker 1: of times DJ or a player that I'm working with,
Speaker 1: if they don't play good, I'll sometimes say to DJ,
Speaker 1: you know, has a round where you know, hitting the
Speaker 1: water on a par five double shoots you know, one
Speaker 1: or two over. And I'll say, hey, do you want
Speaker 1: to go hit balls? And he'll say, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I made one bad swing today, I know what I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I'm hitting it good. I had a
Speaker 1: lot of good chances and stuff like that. So he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to immediately go to the range. So many
Speaker 1: of the junior golfers that we work with, they want
Speaker 1: to spend they want to practice for four hours before
Speaker 1: they go play golf, and then as soon as they
Speaker 1: get done. Whatever happened on the golf course. There's no
Speaker 1: analysis of what happened on the golf course. It's just
Speaker 1: let me go back to the driving range. Because everything
Speaker 1: that happened on the golf course today was my technique.
Speaker 1: I just need to practice, work on my back swing,
Speaker 1: work on my club base, work on this. And I
Speaker 1: also think it's important for players to build in play
Speaker 1: days and practice days. Right days where you don't practice,
Speaker 1: you do a warm up maybe twenty thirty minutes max.
Speaker 1: It's not a practice sition. Then you go play golf.
Speaker 1: When you're done, you don't go to the driving range.
Speaker 1: You take stock, you analyze so that when you go
Speaker 1: back to the driving range, the range should be a
Speaker 1: place where you look at what you're doing on the
Speaker 1: golf course and then try and use the practice range
Speaker 1: and use your practice to try and fix what's happening
Speaker 1: on the golf course when you're playing, not to just
Speaker 1: have your golf swing look prettier on video.
Speaker 2: Let the practice tee be its own practice tee, and
Speaker 2: you have to come into that practice tee armed with
Speaker 2: the plan, armed with a set of tasks or items
Speaker 2: you have to complete before you move on essentially right,
Speaker 2: the only to practice, dictate how you're going to practice that.
Speaker 1: Day, having a plan when you practice. It doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be super involved, but say, okay, listen, when I
Speaker 1: played the other day, you know my wedge game wasn't great,
Speaker 1: my ability to control my shape wasn't great, my driving
Speaker 1: wasn't engaged. So then you're not just going to the
Speaker 1: practice range and getting exercise right, you're actually practicing specifically
Speaker 1: with the purpose. I think game building and task building
Speaker 1: in your in your practice sessions is huge. I mean,
Speaker 1: most ranges are going to have visual things on the
Speaker 1: golf course that you can use to try and work
Speaker 1: on your scoring. So give yourself. Say you know a
Speaker 1: good one that I like to do on the drivers,
Speaker 1: Say okay, let's go pick out a fairway on the
Speaker 1: driving range. Right, you know, two pins, two targets, one left,
Speaker 1: one right. You've got to hit a drive in that, okay.
Speaker 1: Then pick out a green and say, okay, whatever the
Speaker 1: yardage is, I've just got to hit the ball anywhere
Speaker 1: on this green. Right. Then go make a five foot
Speaker 1: pot right, so you're moving right. So there's a test.
Speaker 1: So there's three points available, four points available. Whatever each
Speaker 1: round you go through, think about how many points you
Speaker 1: get a point if you hit the fairway with your driver,
Speaker 1: you get a point if you've hit it on the green,
Speaker 1: and then you get a point if you make the
Speaker 1: five footer exactly.
Speaker 2: Those are tasks you can wait the task you move on.
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about your technique while you're doing this.
Speaker 1: You're in your preshot routine. You're in your pre shot
Speaker 1: you know whatever that is, treating each shot like it
Speaker 1: would be on the golf course. Then do three, four
Speaker 1: or five rounds of that. Evaluate what the issue you're
Speaker 1: having is right, is it quality of contact? Is it
Speaker 1: you know, too much CURRCT. Then get out of that mode,
Speaker 1: go into a practice environment and say, okay, let me
Speaker 1: work my technique, work my drills, work my fields to
Speaker 1: try and do this. Now let me get back into
Speaker 1: test mode to see if anything that I'm working on
Speaker 1: is actually really working.
Speaker 2: Right. I kind of like if we had like sixty minutes,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have maybe thirty five minutes of task going
Speaker 2: in and problem solving the quick reevaluation where we're at,
Speaker 2: and you maybe have ten minutes to solve it before
Speaker 2: you move on to the next task, Right, so there's
Speaker 2: a structure, there is a clock if you will, there's
Speaker 2: pure pressure if you will in a group.
Speaker 1: Environment, but also holding yourself accountable, holding yourself accountable for
Speaker 1: you know, go to the short game area and say, okay,
Speaker 1: let me chip this, and wherever I chip it, I
Speaker 1: have to then make the pott to see if I
Speaker 1: can get up and down. I've got ten balls. How
Speaker 1: many of those was I able to get up and down? Right?
Speaker 1: So there's a consequence, right, So you feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: I've got ten up and downs. I've got to get
Speaker 1: up and down around these greens, right, and I've got
Speaker 1: to chip it, and then I have to go and
Speaker 1: try and make the putt for par. The more times
Speaker 1: you're trying to make putts for par under pressure under
Speaker 1: a game type environment where there is a consequence to
Speaker 1: missing it, I think is another way that you can
Speaker 1: simulate what you're doing on the golf course.
Speaker 2: You're moving around trying to solve these situations. Instead of
Speaker 2: just hitting thirty chips in a row at one target,
Speaker 2: even maybe a couple of targets. You're moving around. You're
Speaker 2: simulating play. It's not technique, it's solving the shot at hand.
Speaker 2: And moving on and creating some sort of consequence. I
Speaker 2: love having the clubs not make it to the game,
Speaker 2: not make it in the bag, to the course, forcing
Speaker 2: you to really adapt on the course. That's where I
Speaker 2: think is another big macro problem with golfers just don't
Speaker 2: adapt to what they have that day, to what they
Speaker 2: have on the first tee. They just don't adapt, and
Speaker 2: they just are eternally optimistic.
Speaker 1: And I also think, like you said, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: play golf the way Scotti Scheffler plays golf driver off
Speaker 1: the tee, you know, wedge fifteen feet stuff like that. Sometimes, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe driver isn't the right play for you, Maybe you
Speaker 1: need to hit an iron off the team. Maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a higher handicap, start playing the par fours
Speaker 1: as three shot holes, right, get something and play off
Speaker 1: the tee. Then hit an iron that gives you a wedshot,
Speaker 1: then chip it on and then that's an easy way.
Speaker 1: I think if you are someone that's making big, big numbers, right,
Speaker 1: and big numbers are you know, ruining your score and
Speaker 1: you're struggling to kind of get down from that kind
Speaker 1: of one hundred, break hundred for the first time, break
Speaker 1: ninety for the first time. There isn't a specific way
Speaker 1: to play each hole, right, There really isn't. So like
Speaker 1: I said, you could hit five iron wedge, make the putt,
Speaker 1: and that writes down as a four. Where someone could
Speaker 1: hit driver, wedge, hit it to five feet, lip it
Speaker 1: out and the score is the same.
Speaker 2: Right, There's an infinant number of ways to make a
Speaker 2: part and whatever you have that day is what you
Speaker 2: have that day. Right, So being able to adjust, be
Speaker 2: honest and focus on just solving the problem without any
Speaker 2: emotional toll or optimism and bottle the optimism into at
Speaker 2: the end of the round. Right, if you go out
Speaker 2: and stay calm, stay smooth, not too many ups and downs. Right.
Speaker 1: I talked to Jason Duffer recently about and I was
Speaker 1: talking to him and I said, you know, he's a
Speaker 1: major champion, played on Ryder Cops, President's got multiple winner
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, you know, long career. I said
Speaker 1: to him, what are some of the attributes you have
Speaker 1: to have to be a great player? And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think acceptance is a big part of this, right,
Speaker 1: Accepting that, Okay, this is the situation I'm in, this
Speaker 1: is the shot I've just hit, accepting now this is
Speaker 1: what my options are. Right. Yeah, I can go through
Speaker 1: the trees and stuff, but that's that's bringing in a
Speaker 1: lot of danger. Can hit a tree, could go in
Speaker 1: the water, it could go out of bounce. So accepting that, okay,
Speaker 1: this is where I am, and accepting that I might
Speaker 1: have to chip out backwards or chip out sideways, and
Speaker 1: maybe I won't be able to get to the green.
Speaker 1: But what I'm not going to do is compound the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm going to accept that, Okay, I made a mistake,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to do my best to try and
Speaker 1: not compound the mistake that I just mad.
Speaker 2: That's our concept of offensive and defensive golf. You hit
Speaker 2: your driver behind a tree, you're on the defense for
Speaker 2: the next shot.
Speaker 1: But everyone goes on offense.
Speaker 2: Right. This is when we hand the ball off and
Speaker 2: go ahead and hunt on fourth down right, and until
Speaker 2: we're back in the fairway, then we have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to get back on the game plan, get back on plan,
Speaker 2: get back on the green. So a lot of golfers
Speaker 2: tend to go into the trees or bunkers, and they
Speaker 2: think offense is the best strategy. They throughout the hail Mary,
Speaker 2: they run the thirty yard out when quite simply, all
Speaker 2: you have to do is hand it off, hitch it out,
Speaker 2: move on to put yourself at one hundred yards, get
Speaker 2: the wedge on the green to put. Now it's a
Speaker 2: bogie instead of triple or worse.
Speaker 1: I think that if you can just say to yourself, listen,
Speaker 1: if I get in trouble off the tee, the worst
Speaker 1: I'm going to make here is bogy, right. But what
Speaker 1: I'm going to do is get this somehow on the green.
Speaker 1: And no matter what length of pott I've got, if
Speaker 1: I have a putt for par if it's from forty feet,
Speaker 1: I've got a pot for far, you can make a
Speaker 1: forty footer right. It's hard to hold bunker shots. It's
Speaker 1: hard to have all these incredible, you know, fantastic rescue
Speaker 1: shots that we see players on TV make and just
Speaker 1: accept that, Okay, I'm in trouble, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: out of trouble and I'm now The worst I'm going
Speaker 1: to make here is bogie right.
Speaker 2: Part five, five hundred and fifty yards. Driver in the water.
Speaker 2: You can dink a five iron from three p fifty
Speaker 2: out two times that say one hundred and eighty yards
Speaker 2: each time and still be in decent position to have
Speaker 2: a chance for a bogie.
Speaker 1: Rian, we could talk all all day on this stuff.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do another one in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: where we actually go through some of the games and
Speaker 1: the tasks that we have, and I think everyone listening,
Speaker 1: I mean, there are some things that you'll be able
Speaker 1: to take to your game and to your practice. But
Speaker 1: you know, our goal is to help players play the
Speaker 1: game of golf better. Our goal is not to try
Speaker 1: and help people practice the game better, swing better, right, Listen.
Speaker 1: Technique is a huge part of this, right, but just
Speaker 1: remember Ry McElroy, Scottie Scheffler, John Rahm, Nellie Cordo, Lydia Co,
Speaker 1: Padrick Harrington, Ernie, all of the best players in the
Speaker 1: world world across all of the various tours, they're all
Speaker 1: trying to improve their technique. But where you can become
Speaker 1: a better golfer is to get better at playing the
Speaker 1: game of golf and learning how to play on the
Speaker 1: golf course.
Speaker 2: Als perfectly said, right, I'm being able to adapt and
Speaker 2: play on the golf course.
Speaker 1: So some great stuff that can help you with your
Speaker 1: game from Ryan Cressler there and golf it's game. There
Speaker 1: will be things that happen, and there will be things
Speaker 1: that are kind of chaotic, and how you handle those
Speaker 1: and how you handle the situations that happen when you're
Speaker 1: out on the golf course, not with what's going on
Speaker 1: in your practice on the driving range, but what is
Speaker 1: happening when you are out on the golf course, I
Speaker 1: think is the most important thing that you can focus on.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to improve their technique, but the way you
Speaker 1: play the game and how you play the game and
Speaker 1: the decisions you make on the golf course and have
Speaker 1: a massive effect on your scores and your handicap. Son
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