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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, December eighteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,
Speaker 1: episode number one h two. Welcome to another edition of Break.
Speaker 1: We're live the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star
Speaker 1: and we've got a few things we're gonna hit today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little Pro Bowl. Count boys get
Speaker 1: their their guys in, a few of their guys in.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some guys that maybe should have gotten
Speaker 1: in and see how you guys feel about that. We'll
Speaker 1: also get into some storylines for the game. Nick has
Speaker 1: this weekly article where he tells us what the prevailing
Speaker 1: storylines will be Cowboys versus Eagles, and then Dave gives
Speaker 1: us his breakdown of the Eagles offense. Tomorrow we will
Speaker 1: do the defense. So let's start first with the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl selections. Cowboys have four players name to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin, Zeke Elliott. Are there
Speaker 1: any guys that you think should have been on that
Speaker 1: list that we're not? Nope? Well, should we talk about
Speaker 1: the injuries first? I'm gonna say this is a rare
Speaker 1: case where I think the injury probably should lead the show.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't. You don't think it's notable that the
Speaker 1: quarterback heard his shoulder play to it? Right, You could
Speaker 1: argue he didn't look awesome for chunks of that game.
Speaker 1: All right, Sure, Dak's limited, he heard his shoulder. Clay
Speaker 1: Matthews landed on him on Sunday. He played through it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play Sunday. But ush's out there practice. The
Speaker 1: injury is bad enough that he's not throwing in practice,
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett said it's hard for him to function.
Speaker 1: So I think, I mean, it's not worthy. He's gonna play,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna play. It's still notworthy. I think that
Speaker 1: becomes a part of the analysis of the game when
Speaker 1: we start talking about this Eagles defense versus deck On
Speaker 1: offense and how that plays out. Because he's playing absolute doubt,
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna play, but if it hinders his effectiveness,
Speaker 1: I think that's noteworthy. Well do you think it hindered
Speaker 1: his effectiveness last week? I don't know. I did have
Speaker 1: to go back and watch from the play where he
Speaker 1: hurt his shoulder and really analyze it. I just know
Speaker 1: that he looked off on Sunday, like he didn't look
Speaker 1: his most accurate. Garrett said. It was pretty early on
Speaker 1: in the game, first or second quarter. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, I this, We've learned this fifteen minutes ago,
Speaker 1: so I've had a chance. But I don't think he
Speaker 1: looked that great. And I'm sure that's part of it.
Speaker 1: He's also you know, add that to the list with
Speaker 1: the finger and the wrist, and yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: sounds like something that could hinder him pretty severely. Luckily
Speaker 1: this is not a great Eagles secondary, but still, yeah,
Speaker 1: is there another injury? Tyrn Smith also, it was not practicing.
Speaker 1: He's got a sty on his eye that'll probably you know,
Speaker 1: subside over the next few days, but he won't be
Speaker 1: practicing today. We'll see a pretty big sty. He can't
Speaker 1: open his eye according to the chasing Garrett. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so just yeah really has small eyes, does he? I
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, I never noticed. I think so so.
Speaker 1: I mean I never small eyes, So if I have
Speaker 1: one completely shut, that's a big problem because then I
Speaker 1: can really barely see from the other one. He's such
Speaker 1: a big dude, you never think like small eyes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll have to look at him next time. I think
Speaker 1: they'll both be fine for Sunday. But it's I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to call it troubling or at
Speaker 1: least noteworthy to start the week with. Yeah, that's where're
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on, and we'll see how
Speaker 1: it goes. But I don't think obviously there's no I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say no chance, but the likelihood that they don't
Speaker 1: play Sunday is relatively small. Yeah, yeah, all right, Um,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about Pro Bowls. Well, there any guys
Speaker 1: that you thought should nick Now, there are any guys
Speaker 1: that are not on the list that should be on
Speaker 1: the list in your opinion that play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. I think Lyle Collins has been great this year,
Speaker 1: and I think, I mean, I get it. At some
Speaker 1: point you gotta draw the line. It's a it's an
Speaker 1: all star game, but I think it's silly. Three tackles
Speaker 1: get put on the team and they're all left tackles. Meanwhile, guy,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not just Lyle Collins. Lyle has
Speaker 1: been great, Lane Johnson is one of the best right
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. Ryan Ramchick has been killing it
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and they just don't get any recognition
Speaker 1: because they don't play the big visibility tackle spot. I
Speaker 1: think that's stupid. I think I would change it to
Speaker 1: be two left tackles and two right tackles. And I
Speaker 1: certainly think Lyle has a case to be you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the two or three best
Speaker 1: right tackles in the NFC at least, but based on
Speaker 1: how they do it, we'll only have three tackles. If
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it, one of these guys, David baktr
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith of Terren Arms Armstead has to come off.
Speaker 1: Are you saying that he should be on over one
Speaker 1: of those three guys. No, That's my point is I
Speaker 1: think that's dumb. Like it's like you got three spots
Speaker 1: for quarterback, but they're all starters, but you still get three,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So by that logic, there
Speaker 1: should be like five tackles shouldn't there. You have three
Speaker 1: times as many as players as you have starters, is
Speaker 1: what you're saying exactly, And so you should have six
Speaker 1: like in this instance, like there's three quarterbacks and they
Speaker 1: all play in the game. So if there's enough tackles
Speaker 1: to cycle amented out of the game, you should have
Speaker 1: five or six. And Lyle Collins should absolutely be one
Speaker 1: of those. And right tackles should be represented on the roster,
Speaker 1: and it's not, and it sucks, and that's why you
Speaker 1: got snubbed pound for pound. And I think Tyron has
Speaker 1: had a good season. He's still a lot better than
Speaker 1: you want to get credit for. You're just spoiled by
Speaker 1: the expectations. But pound for pound, week for week, Lyle
Speaker 1: has been better than Tyron, I think this season. Yep.
Speaker 1: And that's the tough part about offensive lineman. Nick, you
Speaker 1: were making the point, I'll let you make the point
Speaker 1: before you went on the air about offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: how tough it is for guys to get onto that
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster and how easy it easy, how much
Speaker 1: easier it is for a guy that's been on that
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster to stay on the Pro Bowl roster
Speaker 1: because offensive. Labman, Well, I mean we didn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: can you name another center in the league other than Kelsey?
Speaker 1: There's not a lot. I mean Mac yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean yeah yeah. And he's like and you could say, well,
Speaker 1: players know each other. Well, I mean, it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like the receivers know who the kicker is for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They don't know his name, So I don't know if
Speaker 1: they know people's names, you know. So I so, you know,
Speaker 1: Nick's referring to a video that we put up. Where
Speaker 1: is that that was? That wasn't sounds that was pretty sure.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, didn't, Yeah, because what's his name? Ka? Kai?
Speaker 1: I thought was kay? It was like Randall says, if
Speaker 1: he makes more kicks, I went to name my kid
Speaker 1: that Kai? And what the hell's that? That was fantastic? So,
Speaker 1: I mean and I get and I get it, he
Speaker 1: just got here, but that doesn't mean that you know
Speaker 1: the center and the other team and all that, and
Speaker 1: you just look at him like Frederick yeah, Martin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So all that being said, I'm sure it happens on
Speaker 1: the on the other side too, And I just I
Speaker 1: just don't believe that Dak Prescott this isn't the year
Speaker 1: that you're going to take away the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are having great seasons. I mean their team
Speaker 1: is really good, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Who does Dak in his seven seven record? Replace if
Speaker 1: you want to say Drew Brees, he's got six wins
Speaker 1: in nine games, He's got six wins, So I mean
Speaker 1: Dak got seven in fourteen, you know, and their intercept
Speaker 1: their touchdowns are pretty close too. So I just I
Speaker 1: think Drew Brees, I think. I don't think quarterback was
Speaker 1: a snub there at all. I really don't. I completely
Speaker 1: agree on I mean, if Dak was on there, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad about it. No, I'm deserved. But it's
Speaker 1: just in this year, there's just too many. If you're
Speaker 1: working yourself into a frenzy that Dak should be on there,
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. There's seven and seven
Speaker 1: and it's obviously way. I mean, there's more to it.
Speaker 1: Quarterback wins are not just a quarterback stat. But if
Speaker 1: you're so good that you should like you got snubbed
Speaker 1: for the Pro Bowl, then you mean you should be
Speaker 1: able to lift your team to a little bit better
Speaker 1: performance than that, right, Yeah, And if you're going to
Speaker 1: make the argument just based upon the stats he belongs there,
Speaker 1: then you got to also throw in Jameis Winston because
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston's right up there, maybe ahead of him in yards.
Speaker 1: I don't know about touchdowns, I'm not certain. I know
Speaker 1: he has a ton more interceptions. But the point is,
Speaker 1: if you're just going by stats, there are still other
Speaker 1: guys that get into the picture. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that if you just look at stats, that's necessarily a
Speaker 1: good indication for the quarterback position because there are other
Speaker 1: things that are factored in for quarterbacks. And what's Aaron Rodgers' stats?
Speaker 1: Because I saw twenty one touchdowns and two interceptions, that
Speaker 1: seems pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, But they haven't been
Speaker 1: throwing as much as they have in previous years. And
Speaker 1: by the way they're winning that they're winning, So that
Speaker 1: means that whatever their formula is, he's doing what it
Speaker 1: takes from the quarterback position to run that kind of
Speaker 1: scheme and be able to move the ball and be effective.
Speaker 1: You know. And I think the heart of the voting
Speaker 1: took place in the last three weeks or you know,
Speaker 1: the last month or so, you know, don't don't three
Speaker 1: in a row in national TV, because I guarantee you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's look at this cowboy team. They're playing
Speaker 1: the Patriots today. Well they didn't score touchdown. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: then Thanksgiving Day they played that the Bills, Well, throw
Speaker 1: one touchdown, and he threw another one late in the
Speaker 1: game when it's probably turned off. And then against the Bears,
Speaker 1: his touchdown pass was probably not even seen by most
Speaker 1: people because it was way late in the game too,
Speaker 1: And that that was one where a lot of stats
Speaker 1: seem kind of hollow in that game. So that's absolutely
Speaker 1: and you can make the same argument for Mark Cooper.
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cooper's got a good case to be there,
Speaker 1: but none of them, I'm not. You can't get mad
Speaker 1: at all. The guys that made it over him have
Speaker 1: good cases too. They got better numbers. People people have
Speaker 1: kind of there's been some backlash. Like you go back
Speaker 1: to like Detroit and the Giants game at the start
Speaker 1: of November, You're like, DA's got a case to build
Speaker 1: his resume. You know, he's gonna be on national TV
Speaker 1: four times, He's gonna play on Thanksgiving. He's gonna do this.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do that, and it didn't happen, and people
Speaker 1: kind of came back like, well, you feel stupid, don't
Speaker 1: you know? I was like no. All I said was
Speaker 1: he would have the opportunity to build that case, and
Speaker 1: he didn't do it, And that's probably why he's not
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl either. If they had played better
Speaker 1: in that stretch, he'd have everything he could possibly want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking about Amari Cooper, all four of the guys that
Speaker 1: made it had more yards than him, All but one
Speaker 1: had more touchdowns. That was Julio. Julio only has six
Speaker 1: where Mari has eight. But you got Julio Jones, Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin all have had really really great
Speaker 1: years and statistically better than Amari Cooper. So it's hard
Speaker 1: to make the argument that he that he should have
Speaker 1: been in over any of those guys. Were you guys
Speaker 1: at all shocked that only four guys got in? Though
Speaker 1: I know we went through this the other day. I
Speaker 1: think we had way more than that that we thought
Speaker 1: could get in. I was pretty placed with the list,
Speaker 1: you know, And I still think that there could always
Speaker 1: be the possibility that some of these guys make it
Speaker 1: into as we go on, but the one that definitely
Speaker 1: shocked me and I don't know why, well, I do
Speaker 1: know why, Travis Frederick. It's it's amazing to see that
Speaker 1: he made it into the Pro Bowl. I remember earlier
Speaker 1: in the season, Nick was even talking about, oh, well,
Speaker 1: is Joe Looney maybe better because we plug Joe Looney
Speaker 1: in there with some of the issues that they were
Speaker 1: having earlier on. No, but it's really great to see
Speaker 1: where he was at last year and he'm barely even
Speaker 1: able to walk, losing so much weight, so much muscle weight,
Speaker 1: and him making the Pro Bowl this year. That was
Speaker 1: impressive when you think about you know, you've been in
Speaker 1: the locker room and last late last year and him
Speaker 1: kind of walking the way he was he was walking
Speaker 1: in and you're like, he's not He's not gonna play
Speaker 1: next year, He's not gonna play anymore. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever thought that was just watching
Speaker 1: him around way, there's no way. I mean he looked
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't mind saying this. I mean
Speaker 1: he looked like a seventy five year old man walking down.
Speaker 1: He really did. And and to be able to come
Speaker 1: back and play. It is remarkable. And then to be
Speaker 1: at a at a Pro Bowl level, that's that's just
Speaker 1: I mean, can he can he get Edlock Courage Award?
Speaker 1: Is that going to happen? I would think that's I
Speaker 1: think probably won that. No, they all they announced those
Speaker 1: for the year. So but but you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I don't think he's played as great
Speaker 1: as we've seen, you know, in other years. But I
Speaker 1: can say the same about Zach and Tyre and I
Speaker 1: just I think reputation, you know, for them, which it's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we said, you know, Dak and Amari
Speaker 1: had cases, and we said six or seven guys might
Speaker 1: make it. Like the Cowboys. Still they're like third in
Speaker 1: the NFC in terms of selections, Like they've got They've
Speaker 1: got more than the Packers, they got more than the Vikings.
Speaker 1: They have as many as the forty nine ers who
Speaker 1: are having a great year the Seahawks, and the Packers
Speaker 1: only got two yeah really yeah each Rogers or Baktari
Speaker 1: and Wilson and Wagner. So the Cowboys doubled up two
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the So, No, they're fine,
Speaker 1: They're absolutely fine. That's what's crazy, though it's likely got
Speaker 1: more than they deserve to have off the strength of
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, we talk about them not being as
Speaker 1: good this year, but then when you compare them to
Speaker 1: the rest of the league, it's like they're still pretty
Speaker 1: damn good. So it's almost the fact that the meeting
Speaker 1: our expectations farming team. And that does speak to the
Speaker 1: talent level. And we've had this debate back and forth,
Speaker 1: or they really as talented as we think. I think
Speaker 1: it does speak to the fact that when you've got
Speaker 1: three guys in offensive line that are even in that conversation,
Speaker 1: that matters, right, how many teams around the league have
Speaker 1: three offensive line whether you believe that Travis had as
Speaker 1: best you or any of them have, or whether they
Speaker 1: deserve this to have three guys that are even in
Speaker 1: the conversation on one offensive line, And by the way,
Speaker 1: make the argument that the best of them didn't get
Speaker 1: placed on that list in Lyle Collins, who has that right,
Speaker 1: and that says they got talent, they just haven't been
Speaker 1: able to I mean you can also say too, I
Speaker 1: mean four Pro bowlers that that's great, but when it's
Speaker 1: you know, when it's third and six, and in your defense,
Speaker 1: none of those Pro Bowlers are helping you. So yes,
Speaker 1: you do have talent, but my point all along is
Speaker 1: is it spread around equally and to the point where
Speaker 1: you know you could still lose games because of your
Speaker 1: defense and your offensive line at times this year didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, as dominating as they can be, they didn't
Speaker 1: go dominate a lot of games. That's why I'm surprised
Speaker 1: that the three guys made the Pro Bowl honestly too.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some storylines. Nick is gonna tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about what to expect this week
Speaker 1: as far as stories around Cowboys versus Eagles for the
Speaker 1: division title. At least for the Cowboys. I would do
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Speaker 1: one score, September twenty nineteen. Back to the break, Welcome Back,
Speaker 1: second segment of show like nes WBC Mortgage Studios. At
Speaker 1: the start, we're talking Cowboys Versus Eagles. Nick's gonna tell
Speaker 1: us the storylines of the week. What are the things
Speaker 1: that fans will be tracking this week heading into this
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Eagles and the child. Dave can help me
Speaker 1: with it too, because Dave helped me. He did. That's right,
Speaker 1: you wrote the story. Write the story. Um, that's what
Speaker 1: happens when the boss decides that, right. He just like, hey, Dave,
Speaker 1: why don't you write this story? No, it really happens
Speaker 1: when people put like four meetings in one day. Teamwork
Speaker 1: makes the dream? Does that? I don't know anyways? All right?
Speaker 1: For the Eagles, I mean it's it's similar to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys of it. This is do or die for them.
Speaker 1: I mean they if they don't win this game, they're
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. It's not exactly the same for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but you know, they have to win this game.
Speaker 1: Uh and if they don't, then the Cowboys win the
Speaker 1: NFC East. If if they win, they have to beat
Speaker 1: the Giants. Um or Cowboys have to win or the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can lose if they beat the If they beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and then they both lose, the Eagles will
Speaker 1: win their vision. So um, obviously they got to win
Speaker 1: this game because they can't count on the Redskins beating
Speaker 1: anyone or you know, and can't count anything with the Giants.
Speaker 1: Is one of the things that Dave mentioned and he'll
Speaker 1: talk more about as their receivers are just so banged up.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I guess the three guys they've got
Speaker 1: now are gonna be Whiteside, Davis and Ward. I mean
Speaker 1: those are the three Gagalore could be back for this game.
Speaker 1: That's something to watch. But I mean that's he doesn't
Speaker 1: scare you, you know, if anything, you're kind of like sure,
Speaker 1: that sounds great. Ward is a former quarterback, yeah, college
Speaker 1: quarterback for those of you who follow you of h football.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was the same guy, Yeah Houston,
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was the same guy to
Speaker 1: Clarence mentioned it while we were watching the game on
Speaker 1: Sunday and I was like, Oh, that is that guy,
Speaker 1: and he's he's a really small guy, it seems like,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, it's a guy that's been been changed
Speaker 1: over from quarterback to receiver, so you would think he's
Speaker 1: probably not a polished receiver at this point. It's a
Speaker 1: really cool story, like he's I mean, he's yo yoed
Speaker 1: on and off the roster like sixteen times and he
Speaker 1: caught the game winner. It's Washington like broke down in
Speaker 1: the end zone, which I totally get it, but he
Speaker 1: he shouldn't scare you in terms of just beating up
Speaker 1: on the Dallas secondary. Right. And then one guy that
Speaker 1: is starting to kind of provide a spark for them
Speaker 1: as Miles Sanders. He has a thousand yards in both rushing,
Speaker 1: I mean a thousand yards total from scream and rushing receiving,
Speaker 1: and it's a really nice touchdown catching the back of
Speaker 1: the end zone. If you saw that play, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a great throw by the guy. You've been
Speaker 1: talking my Ampson's draft, right. I really love Miles Sanders,
Speaker 1: But that was just one of the best I've seen
Speaker 1: all year. Carson Wentz, that was outstanding. Their secondary it's
Speaker 1: been pretty bad, uh, Dwayne Askins got them pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah last week, not enough to win, but they've been
Speaker 1: banged up as well. They got all kinds of problems
Speaker 1: there in the secondary. And then one thing I did
Speaker 1: see that third down. They're the second best team in
Speaker 1: the league on third down, so they're they're tough to
Speaker 1: get off the field and offensive offense forty seven percent
Speaker 1: they're converting. The only team better than that it's the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at forty eight points, so a lot of
Speaker 1: third down conversions. And then of course the Cowboys. We know,
Speaker 1: we know that the Cowboys storylines, right, I mean Malcolm
Speaker 1: Smith MVP. Yeah signed. Where's number forty three? One of
Speaker 1: the few numbers in NFL history? I mean in the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that is a two ring of honor. Players have
Speaker 1: worn forty three. One name them. I'm sure you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why Cliff Harris Amber seriously no idea.
Speaker 1: Don Perkins am Now, I played in nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 1: You weren't even like a thought like even you that
Speaker 1: name close to forty three. That doesn't even look or
Speaker 1: in my head, I don't see it. Yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was one of the guys upstairs was like trash
Speaker 1: number forty three. He's like, well, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: Ring of Honors before we before we just you know,
Speaker 1: we just throw it away. Yeah yeah, Maybe it's one
Speaker 1: of those numbers that like means something like can't just
Speaker 1: give it forty three to anyone. Maybe they gave it
Speaker 1: to Sensiball. What are you trying to say? I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get his name in there, drilled Sensiball. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: all right, Dave, tell me about this Philadelphia offense. Um,
Speaker 1: they're super duper banged up. That's I mean that. I mean, Nick,
Speaker 1: the main thing is the receivers. Yeah, um, they don't
Speaker 1: have any left. Nelson ago Or might be back. Good
Speaker 1: for him. He won a game for the Falcons this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. I mean, And wasn't he the one
Speaker 1: that the that the fire fire not the fire Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy from the viral video of from the fire
Speaker 1: in Philly, Like you know, I was just catching them
Speaker 1: unlike Agilore. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean so it's it's
Speaker 1: Nelson Agloor jj Ar Saga Whiteside, greg Ward Junior U
Speaker 1: that's their receiver. Yeah, no, absolutely. My first note is
Speaker 1: that Ertz is definitely gonna play receiver. A bunch they do.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have two good tight ends. They still
Speaker 1: put their tight ends on the line. But like watching
Speaker 1: the Redskins game, I was shocked at how often it's
Speaker 1: like because you never see it, and when you do
Speaker 1: see it, you notice it. How often the Eagles just
Speaker 1: had five men on the line of scrimmage, like five,
Speaker 1: you know, two tackles, two guards in the center and
Speaker 1: nobody else. Because Ertz and Goddard lined up out wide
Speaker 1: so much, it's like it's striking when you see that,
Speaker 1: because that's not NFL football. They do it a lot
Speaker 1: out of necessity. Ertz and god Or can both line
Speaker 1: up out wide. They are the number one and number
Speaker 1: two receivers on this team by a hysterical margin. Um
Speaker 1: ERTs ERTs is. It's it's comical. I say hysterical for
Speaker 1: a reason. Where where are my stats? Uh Ertz has
Speaker 1: eighty four catches. The number two receiver on this team
Speaker 1: has got her with forty five. So it's both of
Speaker 1: their tight ends they're just running away with it. Um
Speaker 1: so I don't understand why teams haven't to this point
Speaker 1: butt into games, particularly last week, and I would think
Speaker 1: this week as well, saying okay, take ERTs away, force
Speaker 1: them to you can double him, or you put a
Speaker 1: cornerback on him. And if you put a cornerback on him,
Speaker 1: let's say you decide that you're just gonna run with
Speaker 1: with with um virons just on him the whole game.
Speaker 1: He's gonna still catch some passes because he's really good,
Speaker 1: but you could limit him, I think. And if you
Speaker 1: take him away or you at least limit him, what
Speaker 1: else do they have to really be able to hurt you?
Speaker 1: You know what? I was thinking that too. But but okay,
Speaker 1: even though we don't know those receivers very well, there's
Speaker 1: still wide receivers in the NFL. GOT So the point
Speaker 1: is is that if you're gonna put Byron Jones on
Speaker 1: Arts and Cheeto on Goddard, you can't just put Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith on Greg Ward and say that that that's gonna work.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you can't ye have five corners for everyone,
Speaker 1: because he's just saying they're spreading everybody out, so they are.
Speaker 1: I still think there's some mismatches there that the Eagles
Speaker 1: are Eagles. I feel better about Greg greg Ward going
Speaker 1: up against whoever you want to throw out at cornerback
Speaker 1: that would be your fourth cornerback. I still feel better
Speaker 1: about that than I do letting Arts match up with
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Yeah, like that to me would be a
Speaker 1: problem for the count. That's what's what two tight ends
Speaker 1: are supposed to do. They're supposed to be on the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage at the snap, almost at the snap
Speaker 1: at the ball. They could run the ball, So you
Speaker 1: have to kind of honor that because they can block
Speaker 1: and get in the way and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: they spread out, and now how do you handle that.
Speaker 1: That's what a really good two tight end set is
Speaker 1: supposed to do. It. I'm sure that that's what they do.
Speaker 1: If Arts is off the line, I would put a
Speaker 1: corner on it, I agree. And if he's on the line,
Speaker 1: I would double him with the linebacker. And Jeff, he's
Speaker 1: That's what I would That's exactly right. And he and
Speaker 1: when I say like he's not flexed out like you
Speaker 1: know in the slot, like he goes everywhere. He'll he
Speaker 1: lines up outside too. He can do all that and
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys probably will use cornerbacks to cover
Speaker 1: him when when the need arises. It just depends on
Speaker 1: where he lines up. I would literally go into the
Speaker 1: game defensively and say every play, I'm identifying where he is,
Speaker 1: and based on where he is and what I think
Speaker 1: that that what my study tells me of how they're
Speaker 1: going to use him. I'm gonna have either able either
Speaker 1: double or I'm gonna have one of my better corners
Speaker 1: on him, and I'm gonna try to limit him and
Speaker 1: force the quarterback to go somewhere else. Because here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If greg Ward's beat if greg Ward beat you or
Speaker 1: whoever else Whiteside beat you, then okay, they beat us.
Speaker 1: They were good that day, right, But I'd rather take
Speaker 1: away the guy that I know can beat me and
Speaker 1: make somebody else do it, then then go with something
Speaker 1: that's a little more spread out that That's the point though,
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have that many players, so that
Speaker 1: so that's why they're gonna go. That's why the mismatch
Speaker 1: is there. If you want to take away their tie
Speaker 1: in with your corner, then one of your safeties has
Speaker 1: to cover one of their receivers. Right, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: and again, you're good with that. If you're talking about
Speaker 1: one of their their second or third receiver on that list,
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. I'll take that chance. I completely,
Speaker 1: I completely and one percent agree with Derek these receives.
Speaker 1: I mean, if jj R Sega Whiteside uh takes over
Speaker 1: this game and be too he just he just won't.
Speaker 1: I just I don't really believe that he's got eight
Speaker 1: catches on the year. Uh. They went into that. They
Speaker 1: purposely played with three receivers in the In the Redskins game,
Speaker 1: he was targeted twice and finished with no catches. I
Speaker 1: think he could be a good player. He's a third
Speaker 1: round pick, but I don't think he's there right now.
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilore has a long history of not being that good.
Speaker 1: He's Jalen Smith has to cover any of those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I would have put him out there.
Speaker 1: I'd rather put I take, I'd take my safety. I'd
Speaker 1: take I'd take one of my safeties and slide them
Speaker 1: down to cover a guy in the slot or cover
Speaker 1: a guy outside before I would send Jalen out on him.
Speaker 1: But okay, I just think it's a little bit harder
Speaker 1: than just saying, just put two corners on those guys,
Speaker 1: because I think they can come back. And in this
Speaker 1: scenario saying Goddard necessarily and Godder might be the guy
Speaker 1: that actually ends up really hurting you this week if
Speaker 1: you really pay a lot of attention to Arts. But
Speaker 1: I would take away their top threat and it's clear
Speaker 1: as by that number he's doubling the next closest receiver
Speaker 1: as far as just productivity to me, you take him away,
Speaker 1: and you force the quarterback to identify all the guys
Speaker 1: that are open, and you force those other guys to
Speaker 1: beat you. I think that's a strategy worth taking in
Speaker 1: these hypothetical scenarios, like if the Eagles came out there
Speaker 1: with twelve personnel, two tight ends, two receivers, I would
Speaker 1: put a cornerback on Earth's if he's you know, if
Speaker 1: he's out there, and double Goddard and just one up
Speaker 1: the rest of him. And that includes make him just
Speaker 1: beat me one up. That includes the running back, which
Speaker 1: that's scary because that's the next part is after the
Speaker 1: tight ends. It's the running backs. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: wins has right now, and that's almost exclusively what they
Speaker 1: use Miles Sanders has forty two catches on the year.
Speaker 1: He's dynamic in both aspects. He's a good runner, two,
Speaker 1: he makes great cuts. He seems like he's got really
Speaker 1: good vision. And also the Eagles have a talented offensive line.
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson hasn't been playing, but he might be back.
Speaker 1: Something to watch this week. Don't make me say the
Speaker 1: name of the guy that's playing for him. It's it's
Speaker 1: Big V. You know, Big V. Yeah, you remember Hims
Speaker 1: Peters As far as his health, because it seems like
Speaker 1: he's always kind of in and out. Right now he's
Speaker 1: been playing. I mean, yeah, that's fair, but he's been
Speaker 1: playing okay, so it's I mean, by that standard, it's
Speaker 1: better than it has been in recent matchups. Um, they
Speaker 1: scheme a lot of just short throws for Wentz even
Speaker 1: like Ward caught a lot of passes like in motion
Speaker 1: where he motions into the flat and I'm rewinding the tape,
Speaker 1: like was that a running back that caught that or
Speaker 1: a receiver? Because they I don't think these guys can
Speaker 1: run routes. Having Agilore might help them just from the
Speaker 1: sense that he probably knows the whole route tree. I'm
Speaker 1: not convinced that Ward and Whiteside do because they're scheming
Speaker 1: up really basic stuff for them to run like, not
Speaker 1: because Wins can't do it, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: they can. So Aglore might help just in the sense
Speaker 1: that he can play traditional wide receiver a little bit
Speaker 1: more three dimensionally. Wentz is very athletic, and a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff comes from his ability to extend plays.
Speaker 1: If you get a shot at him, you gotta get
Speaker 1: him on the ground. He made a lot of plays
Speaker 1: in this game just by extending him, the throat of
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders being one of them. I mean, he drew
Speaker 1: that thing out for eight or nine seconds before he
Speaker 1: finally threw the ball. Boston Scott know that name. I
Speaker 1: think he's not as under the radar as he would
Speaker 1: have been because everybody watched that Monday night game where
Speaker 1: he played great. But he's been targeted at forty No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, where are we at? He's he's had thirteen
Speaker 1: receptions in the last two weeks and he's got fourteen
Speaker 1: on the year, so it's very I mean it's out
Speaker 1: of necessity, but they are finding him and making him
Speaker 1: part of the offense. He's also carried the ball sixteen
Speaker 1: times for eighty five yards in the last two games,
Speaker 1: so like he has developed into a pretty reliable part
Speaker 1: of their offense because they don't have any receivers. Him
Speaker 1: and Sanders can both run, they can both catch Boston
Speaker 1: Scott Miles, Sanders, Dallas Goddard and Zach Ertz. Like that's
Speaker 1: how this offense is going to move, and they've shown
Speaker 1: that it can. They scored and they scored thirty points
Speaker 1: against Washington doing this, and like Wins is a good
Speaker 1: enough quarterback to pick this skill player group up, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, as we know, we just saw a game
Speaker 1: last week with the Cowboys where the tight ends and
Speaker 1: the running backs. I mean that was the offense and
Speaker 1: the receivers weren't has involved. So we know you can
Speaker 1: win like that, and they probably have better well not probably,
Speaker 1: they've got better tight ends, So I'm not saying they
Speaker 1: can't win. My thought is just you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: force them to do with other people rather than let
Speaker 1: the guy you know can beat you beat you. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to say this because it always starts
Speaker 1: a firestorm, like the Dak Wins debate, just gets people going,
Speaker 1: like Eli Romo used to and I know, like dak
Speaker 1: leads Dak Lee the league and drops and it hasn't
Speaker 1: been perfect for him. I think the world of Dak
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz doesn't have a lot to work with right now,
Speaker 1: and he's still playing pretty well. Like I'm sure early
Speaker 1: in the year he had some he had most of
Speaker 1: his guys and it was that was a while there
Speaker 1: where Urts really wasn't really going the way you would
Speaker 1: expect Urts to be going there. He has some struggles
Speaker 1: early in the season. This offense has gotten like maybe
Speaker 1: two games out of their preferred skill package, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like George DeShawn Jackson, that was a
Speaker 1: huge They got one game out of de Shawn Jackson
Speaker 1: had great If you if you watch that game, it's
Speaker 1: obvious what they wanted him to be for this offense
Speaker 1: and they haven't had it. And they've had to readjust
Speaker 1: because I mean, Alshon Jeffrey's a hell of a receiver,
Speaker 1: but he's not that burner dude that scares the hell
Speaker 1: out of you. But they had to know that going in.
Speaker 1: You go inside and Sean Jackson at this point in
Speaker 1: his career, he's already a guy that's been injured a
Speaker 1: lot throughout his career. That's just what you're going how
Speaker 1: that may be the case, but they have not had
Speaker 1: their preferred guys, and I like, I can hear the
Speaker 1: angry people right now. I know, I get it. You
Speaker 1: gotta that's part of football. But I'm sure Wentz would
Speaker 1: love to have the skill players that I mean. Jack
Speaker 1: hasn't had to deal with that at all this year,
Speaker 1: and it just is what it is. They're both good players,
Speaker 1: but Winz is making it work as best he can
Speaker 1: with a not ideal situation. All Right, we're gonna take
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Speaker 1: Final segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, we want to take some questions from
Speaker 1: you guys. Call us eighty eight eight five, five two
Speaker 1: to ninety seven will take your calls that way. I
Speaker 1: also have a question right now for you guys from
Speaker 1: Joshua her Nandez. You sent this via Twitter said, did
Speaker 1: you see the Cowboys blitz anymore because of the Eagles
Speaker 1: not having any serious threats at the wide receiver position? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you're talking about guys that don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of great speed and they're not big
Speaker 1: guys that can go, you know, down the field and
Speaker 1: I'll jump you. Yeah. I like the match up there.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing about tight ends. As good as
Speaker 1: they are, they put their body on you and stuff,
Speaker 1: but they're not that quick where they're gonna just, you know,
Speaker 1: right off the bat get open. So I could see
Speaker 1: I could see where you get some blitzes early, you know,
Speaker 1: not early in the game, but I mean a blitz
Speaker 1: is that'll get him get the ball out of his hands.
Speaker 1: I would be in favor of it. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in the league and blitz rate. I think,
Speaker 1: oh the Cowboys, like, I mean, they just they just
Speaker 1: don't they just don't do it. They never really have,
Speaker 1: um I hope, So I mean we I mean they
Speaker 1: blitzer has got both of their sacks in the last game,
Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe they build that in. I would be
Speaker 1: in favor of it. Miles Sanders, I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that'll hurt you if you keep blitzing
Speaker 1: the light out. I want to know what kind of
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense we're gonna get this weekend, because you can
Speaker 1: go both ways. Obviously we've seen them having great games
Speaker 1: like the last one, but then at the same time,
Speaker 1: we've seen them when they get really hurt by the
Speaker 1: running back and even tight ends and those little short
Speaker 1: plays that they just sometimes are unable to cover at all.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see. It's a I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a good thing when the other team doesn't have
Speaker 1: any wide receivers. But the players they do have are
Speaker 1: what you need good linebackers for, and that's what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't really have right now. There leaves a lot
Speaker 1: of stress on the linebacker corps. Lee's hobbled, Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: has hobbled. Malcolm Smith just got here. So I mean
Speaker 1: that's gonna tight ends and running backs like that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's your area of expertise. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: big for them. All right, Let's get a phone call
Speaker 1: from Steve in New Jersey. Steve, what up? Hey, guys?
Speaker 1: How good to call you. I really love the show
Speaker 1: and listening to it every day. Um, forty plus year
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan here, I'm wright and stuck in. I'm like
Speaker 1: white as the shore in Jersey here. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So I'm white and stuck up between
Speaker 1: Giant and Eagle terrors story, so Eagles are much more rougher.
Speaker 1: To believe me, I would even dare go to the link.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Um, I gotta admit, guys, you know what
Speaker 1: it seems like whenever our defense has played well. It
Speaker 1: seems like we get good penetration from our tackles. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know they do MALIEK Collins and he's been a
Speaker 1: little bit inconsistent. I remember you guys seeing at beginning
Speaker 1: of the year. You guys thought he was going to be,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the guys coming out that Brian
Speaker 1: and you guys all thought he was going to be,
Speaker 1: you know, better than he was last couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's been inconsistent. If if they can get a push
Speaker 1: up the middle on Wentz, that that can solve the
Speaker 1: whole earth problem right there, I think personally, And it
Speaker 1: seems like when their defense plays well, their tackles, you know,
Speaker 1: get good penetration, and it seems like when they don't,
Speaker 1: that's when they struggle because they just double dware and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Quinn well, I have a d law but um,
Speaker 1: you wish the war was there. But you know, you're
Speaker 1: talking about the Eagles interior line. I believe two of
Speaker 1: them are in the Pro Bowl right say. It's not
Speaker 1: a great matchup Jason Kelsey and Brandon Brooks. I mean,
Speaker 1: Brooks has been a fine for them. He just signed
Speaker 1: a big money deal. He's been really good. So that's
Speaker 1: not going to be at least Anteline Woods is back
Speaker 1: and the end of the day. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: agree in theory, and that's I don't think MALIEK. Collins
Speaker 1: has been bad. Inconsistence is probably a good word. I
Speaker 1: mean that describes a lot of people on this team.
Speaker 1: But if you had a and they haven't, they great.
Speaker 1: I think he's at four four and a half sacks
Speaker 1: or something like that, Malik. But I mean if they
Speaker 1: had an you know, a nine or ten sack three technique,
Speaker 1: which they haven't had since Jason Hatcher, Yeah, it could
Speaker 1: make all the difference. Maybe we need to kind of
Speaker 1: think about that more next year. You know, one year
Speaker 1: of training camp we were like, oh, we're not We're
Speaker 1: gonna look at the kickers this year, you know, because
Speaker 1: we got burned two years ago. Maybe we need to
Speaker 1: look at that too with the offensive line and be like,
Speaker 1: all right, are the line play and say, Okay, Malie
Speaker 1: Collins looks like he's doing well, but is he really
Speaker 1: because you know, they're not just like blocking to the
Speaker 1: ground and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: doing a nice job in those one on one drills
Speaker 1: and all that but sometimes that's hard to translate into
Speaker 1: actually playing when you get four on four out there.
Speaker 1: So for four and five, all I know is and
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, we're not we're not infallible.
Speaker 1: We make mistakes all the time and we can only
Speaker 1: go off what we see and we were wrong. I
Speaker 1: mean Xavier Woods and Cheeto jump out to my mind
Speaker 1: in terms of guys that looked a lot better at
Speaker 1: training camp. But like, it's not like all of this
Speaker 1: is just our uninformed opinion, Like we talked to people
Speaker 1: like the coaches were blown away by Malie Collins and
Speaker 1: training camp like, but talked about him constantly here, like
Speaker 1: tape sessions at night, like circling him and look at
Speaker 1: this badass, look at the camp he's having, right, And
Speaker 1: my point is is that and they also are seeing
Speaker 1: him play. Yeah that's true. Yeah, but a lot of that,
Speaker 1: a lot of the plays that that he that he
Speaker 1: earned heads on. We're not necessarily just in the one
Speaker 1: on ones. It was in the team as well. You're right, though,
Speaker 1: when you're not playing live football then it is a
Speaker 1: little different. It definitely is. But we say that every
Speaker 1: year and you get to training camp. The reason why
Speaker 1: you go to training camp, but everyone's excited, like who's
Speaker 1: looking good? And all you can talk about is what's
Speaker 1: in the moment, and that's all you can talk about.
Speaker 1: You know. I've gotten dragged on a few occasions about
Speaker 1: things I said during training camp. I'm like, cool, next summer,
Speaker 1: I'll just go out there and not share anything with
Speaker 1: y'all and we'll see how that plays. Like I'm sure
Speaker 1: you would hate it even more, right, and you just
Speaker 1: talk about what you see, And that doesn't mean it
Speaker 1: always translates into the season. We've seen that many times before.
Speaker 1: Guys can have great camps, not necessarily a great season
Speaker 1: without a doubt, though, if the defensive tackles can provide
Speaker 1: a push, because you know that Quinn and Lawrence and
Speaker 1: Bennett and Bennett might be one of those guys, you know,
Speaker 1: providing the push. But those guys are gonna get some
Speaker 1: outside rush and that's they're going to force the quarterback
Speaker 1: to step up. How how much room does he have
Speaker 1: to step up is the big question. If he's got
Speaker 1: no room, then that's a sack and that's a turnover
Speaker 1: and that's a big play. That's the key. So the caller,
Speaker 1: I think is right defensive tackles need to provide that push,
Speaker 1: and it's been inconsistent. It's a massive bummer that safety
Speaker 1: and d tackle or their two biggest needs, and neither
Speaker 1: one of them feels addressed right now. Yeah, not for
Speaker 1: lack of trying, but just doesn't mean they tried. They had.
Speaker 1: I understand, I'm saying at defensive tackle, you can't address
Speaker 1: both of them. The second round pick, Like that's the
Speaker 1: highest pick you had. You addressed one of them. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't like they say, it doesn't feel like it
Speaker 1: was addressed, because you're not singing it was addressed in trade.
Speaker 1: They had to go get Michael Bennett. True, honestly, even
Speaker 1: if even if Tristan Hill develops into a good player,
Speaker 1: like Malik is a free agent, Jeff Heath is a
Speaker 1: free agent, Xavier Woods is not, but he's closer to
Speaker 1: the end of his contract from the beginning, and no,
Speaker 1: he's addressed. I just thinking Antoine Woods is a restricted
Speaker 1: free agent. Yeah, I mean, and throw tight end in
Speaker 1: there too. They there's three bugaboo spots, and I mean,
Speaker 1: Jarwin looks promising, but you still you feel kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, also, you're losing Michael Bennett. He's a free agent.
Speaker 1: He's gone when as quinnep gone, Yeah, not coming back.
Speaker 1: Don't think you don't think, Oh, I think they might
Speaker 1: be willing to pay him good money, not great money.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna pay him tank money. But he's one
Speaker 1: of those it's hard to gauge. Somebody might pay him
Speaker 1: pretty good money, but at his age, you would think
Speaker 1: it's a shorter term deal. So they may be willing
Speaker 1: to pay him a significant amount on a short term
Speaker 1: two year deal, one year deal, whatever it is. Right,
Speaker 1: those guys are hard to gauge because like he's gotten
Speaker 1: his he's gotten a contract extension, like he's made big money,
Speaker 1: and so now like length of the deal, money, how
Speaker 1: much he likes the area, how much he likes the area,
Speaker 1: how much he likes the scheme, and that'll depend on coaching.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, we're way in the weeds.
Speaker 1: We have so much change coming soon. You didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't think so coming into this year. I thought that
Speaker 1: so much was locked up. But it really is a lot.
Speaker 1: They got a lot that they'll have a lot of
Speaker 1: decisions to make, a lot of contracts to be made,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that they may be won to
Speaker 1: keep that they won't be able to keep. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gonna be a very
Speaker 1: very interesting offseason once you get there. And not to
Speaker 1: mention the whole cloud that's hanging over this coaching stuff,
Speaker 1: like there's a lot that's gonna be happening in this offseason. Ye,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna that's that's it for us. Actually,
Speaker 1: we'll be back actually done. We'll be back on with
Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. We'll get into this Philadelphia defense. See
Speaker 1: if that sounds any better or presents any interesting problems
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