1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: ware with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, December eighteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: episode number one h two. Welcome to another edition of Break. 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: We're live the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: and we've got a few things we're gonna hit today. 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little Pro Bowl. Count boys get 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: their their guys in, a few of their guys in. 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some guys that maybe should have gotten 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: in and see how you guys feel about that. We'll 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: also get into some storylines for the game. Nick has 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: this weekly article where he tells us what the prevailing 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: storylines will be Cowboys versus Eagles, and then Dave gives 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: us his breakdown of the Eagles offense. Tomorrow we will 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: do the defense. So let's start first with the Pro 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Bowl selections. Cowboys have four players name to the Pro Bowl, 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin, Zeke Elliott. Are there 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: any guys that you think should have been on that 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: list that we're not? Nope? Well, should we talk about 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the injuries first? I'm gonna say this is a rare 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: case where I think the injury probably should lead the show. 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't. You don't think it's notable that the 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: quarterback heard his shoulder play to it? Right, You could 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: argue he didn't look awesome for chunks of that game. 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: All right, Sure, Dak's limited, he heard his shoulder. Clay 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Matthews landed on him on Sunday. He played through it. 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna play Sunday. But ush's out there practice. The 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: injury is bad enough that he's not throwing in practice, 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett said it's hard for him to function. 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: So I think, I mean, it's not worthy. He's gonna play, 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: but he's gonna play. It's still notworthy. I think that 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: becomes a part of the analysis of the game when 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: we start talking about this Eagles defense versus deck On 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: offense and how that plays out. Because he's playing absolute doubt, 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna play, but if it hinders his effectiveness, 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: I think that's noteworthy. Well do you think it hindered 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: his effectiveness last week? I don't know. I did have 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: to go back and watch from the play where he 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: hurt his shoulder and really analyze it. I just know 44 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: that he looked off on Sunday, like he didn't look 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: his most accurate. Garrett said. It was pretty early on 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: in the game, first or second quarter. Like I said, 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I this, We've learned this fifteen minutes ago, 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: so I've had a chance. But I don't think he 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: looked that great. And I'm sure that's part of it. 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: He's also you know, add that to the list with 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: the finger and the wrist, and yeah, I mean it 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: sounds like something that could hinder him pretty severely. Luckily 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: this is not a great Eagles secondary, but still, yeah, 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: is there another injury? Tyrn Smith also, it was not practicing. 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: He's got a sty on his eye that'll probably you know, 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: subside over the next few days, but he won't be 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: practicing today. We'll see a pretty big sty. He can't 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: open his eye according to the chasing Garrett. Oh yeah, okay, 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: so just yeah really has small eyes, does he? I 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, I never noticed. I think so so. 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean I never small eyes, So if I have 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: one completely shut, that's a big problem because then I 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: can really barely see from the other one. He's such 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: a big dude, you never think like small eyes. But yeah, 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: I'll have to look at him next time. I think 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: they'll both be fine for Sunday. But it's I don't 67 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: know if you want to call it troubling or at 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: least noteworthy to start the week with. Yeah, that's where're 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on, and we'll see how 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: it goes. But I don't think obviously there's no I 71 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't say no chance, but the likelihood that they don't 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: play Sunday is relatively small. Yeah, yeah, all right, Um, 73 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: so let's talk about Pro Bowls. Well, there any guys 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: that you thought should nick Now, there are any guys 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: that are not on the list that should be on 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: the list in your opinion that play for the Cowboys. 77 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. I think Lyle Collins has been great this year, 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: and I think, I mean, I get it. At some 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: point you gotta draw the line. It's a it's an 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: all star game, but I think it's silly. Three tackles 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: get put on the team and they're all left tackles. Meanwhile, guy, 82 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not just Lyle Collins. Lyle has 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: been great, Lane Johnson is one of the best right 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: tackles in the league. Ryan Ramchick has been killing it 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and they just don't get any recognition 86 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: because they don't play the big visibility tackle spot. I 87 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: think that's stupid. I think I would change it to 88 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: be two left tackles and two right tackles. And I 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: certainly think Lyle has a case to be you know, 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the two or three best 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: right tackles in the NFC at least, but based on 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: how they do it, we'll only have three tackles. If 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna make it, one of these guys, David baktr 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Tyren Smith of Terren Arms Armstead has to come off. 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Are you saying that he should be on over one 96 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of those three guys. No, That's my point is I 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: think that's dumb. Like it's like you got three spots 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: for quarterback, but they're all starters, but you still get three, 99 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So by that logic, there 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: should be like five tackles shouldn't there. You have three 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: times as many as players as you have starters, is 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: what you're saying exactly, And so you should have six 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: like in this instance, like there's three quarterbacks and they 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: all play in the game. So if there's enough tackles 105 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: to cycle amented out of the game, you should have 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: five or six. And Lyle Collins should absolutely be one 107 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: of those. And right tackles should be represented on the roster, 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: and it's not, and it sucks, and that's why you 109 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: got snubbed pound for pound. And I think Tyron has 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: had a good season. He's still a lot better than 111 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: you want to get credit for. You're just spoiled by 112 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: the expectations. But pound for pound, week for week, Lyle 113 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: has been better than Tyron, I think this season. Yep. 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: And that's the tough part about offensive lineman. Nick, you 115 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: were making the point, I'll let you make the point 116 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: before you went on the air about offensive lineman and 117 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: how tough it is for guys to get onto that 118 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster and how easy it easy, how much 119 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: easier it is for a guy that's been on that 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster to stay on the Pro Bowl roster 121 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: because offensive. Labman, Well, I mean we didn't. I mean, 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: can you name another center in the league other than Kelsey? 123 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: There's not a lot. I mean Mac yeah, but I 124 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: mean yeah yeah. And he's like and you could say, well, 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: players know each other. Well, I mean, it doesn't sound 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: like the receivers know who the kicker is for the Cowboys. 127 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: They don't know his name, So I don't know if 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: they know people's names, you know. So I so, you know, 129 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: Nick's referring to a video that we put up. Where 130 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: is that that was? That wasn't sounds that was pretty sure. 131 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: I was about to say, didn't, Yeah, because what's his name? Ka? Kai? 132 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: I thought was kay? It was like Randall says, if 133 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: he makes more kicks, I went to name my kid 134 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: that Kai? And what the hell's that? That was fantastic? So, 135 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean and I get and I get it, he 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: just got here, but that doesn't mean that you know 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: the center and the other team and all that, and 138 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: you just look at him like Frederick yeah, Martin. Yeah. 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: So all that being said, I'm sure it happens on 140 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: the on the other side too, And I just I 141 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: just don't believe that Dak Prescott this isn't the year 142 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 1: that you're going to take away the Hall of Fame 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are having great seasons. I mean their team 144 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: is really good, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Russell Wilson. 145 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Who does Dak in his seven seven record? Replace if 146 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: you want to say Drew Brees, he's got six wins 147 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: in nine games, He's got six wins, So I mean 148 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Dak got seven in fourteen, you know, and their intercept 149 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: their touchdowns are pretty close too. So I just I 150 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: think Drew Brees, I think. I don't think quarterback was 151 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: a snub there at all. I really don't. I completely 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: agree on I mean, if Dak was on there, I 153 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad about it. No, I'm deserved. But it's 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: just in this year, there's just too many. If you're 155 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: working yourself into a frenzy that Dak should be on there, 156 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. There's seven and seven 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: and it's obviously way. I mean, there's more to it. 158 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Quarterback wins are not just a quarterback stat. But if 159 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: you're so good that you should like you got snubbed 160 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: for the Pro Bowl, then you mean you should be 161 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: able to lift your team to a little bit better 162 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: performance than that, right, Yeah, And if you're going to 163 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: make the argument just based upon the stats he belongs there, 164 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: then you got to also throw in Jameis Winston because 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston's right up there, maybe ahead of him in yards. 166 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about touchdowns, I'm not certain. I know 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: he has a ton more interceptions. But the point is, 168 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: if you're just going by stats, there are still other 169 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: guys that get into the picture. And I don't think 170 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: that if you just look at stats, that's necessarily a 171 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: good indication for the quarterback position because there are other 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: things that are factored in for quarterbacks. And what's Aaron Rodgers' stats? 173 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Because I saw twenty one touchdowns and two interceptions, that 174 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: seems pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, But they haven't been 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: throwing as much as they have in previous years. And 176 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: by the way they're winning that they're winning, So that 177 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: means that whatever their formula is, he's doing what it 178 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: takes from the quarterback position to run that kind of 179 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: scheme and be able to move the ball and be effective. 180 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: You know. And I think the heart of the voting 181 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: took place in the last three weeks or you know, 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: the last month or so, you know, don't don't three 183 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: in a row in national TV, because I guarantee you're like, 184 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: all right, let's look at this cowboy team. They're playing 185 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: the Patriots today. Well they didn't score touchdown. Okay, Well 186 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: then Thanksgiving Day they played that the Bills, Well, throw 187 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: one touchdown, and he threw another one late in the 188 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: game when it's probably turned off. And then against the Bears, 189 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: his touchdown pass was probably not even seen by most 190 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: people because it was way late in the game too, 191 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: And that that was one where a lot of stats 192 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: seem kind of hollow in that game. So that's absolutely 193 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and you can make the same argument for Mark Cooper. 194 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cooper's got a good case to be there, 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: but none of them, I'm not. You can't get mad 196 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: at all. The guys that made it over him have 197 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: good cases too. They got better numbers. People people have 198 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of there's been some backlash. Like you go back 199 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: to like Detroit and the Giants game at the start 200 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: of November, You're like, DA's got a case to build 201 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: his resume. You know, he's gonna be on national TV 202 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: four times, He's gonna play on Thanksgiving. He's gonna do this. 203 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna do that, and it didn't happen, and people 204 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: kind of came back like, well, you feel stupid, don't 205 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: you know? I was like no. All I said was 206 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: he would have the opportunity to build that case, and 207 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: he didn't do it, And that's probably why he's not 208 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl either. If they had played better 209 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: in that stretch, he'd have everything he could possibly want. Yeah, 210 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: speaking about Amari Cooper, all four of the guys that 211 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: made it had more yards than him, All but one 212 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: had more touchdowns. That was Julio. Julio only has six 213 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: where Mari has eight. But you got Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, 214 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin all have had really really great 215 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: years and statistically better than Amari Cooper. So it's hard 216 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: to make the argument that he that he should have 217 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: been in over any of those guys. Were you guys 218 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: at all shocked that only four guys got in? Though 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I know we went through this the other day. I 220 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: think we had way more than that that we thought 221 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: could get in. I was pretty placed with the list, 222 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, And I still think that there could always 223 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: be the possibility that some of these guys make it 224 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: into as we go on, but the one that definitely 225 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: shocked me and I don't know why, well, I do 226 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: know why, Travis Frederick. It's it's amazing to see that 227 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: he made it into the Pro Bowl. I remember earlier 228 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: in the season, Nick was even talking about, oh, well, 229 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: is Joe Looney maybe better because we plug Joe Looney 230 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: in there with some of the issues that they were 231 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: having earlier on. No, but it's really great to see 232 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: where he was at last year and he'm barely even 233 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: able to walk, losing so much weight, so much muscle weight, 234 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: and him making the Pro Bowl this year. That was 235 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: impressive when you think about you know, you've been in 236 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: the locker room and last late last year and him 237 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of walking the way he was he was walking 238 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: in and you're like, he's not He's not gonna play 239 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: next year, He's not gonna play anymore. I mean, I 240 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you ever thought that was just watching 241 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: him around way, there's no way. I mean he looked 242 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't mind saying this. I mean 243 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: he looked like a seventy five year old man walking down. 244 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: He really did. And and to be able to come 245 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: back and play. It is remarkable. And then to be 246 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: at a at a Pro Bowl level, that's that's just 247 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, can he can he get Edlock Courage Award? 248 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Is that going to happen? I would think that's I 249 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: think probably won that. No, they all they announced those 250 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: for the year. So but but you know, it was 251 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: it was amazing. I don't think he's played as great 252 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: as we've seen, you know, in other years. But I 253 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: can say the same about Zach and Tyre and I 254 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: just I think reputation, you know, for them, which it's funny. 255 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we said, you know, Dak and Amari 256 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: had cases, and we said six or seven guys might 257 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: make it. Like the Cowboys. Still they're like third in 258 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: the NFC in terms of selections, Like they've got They've 259 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: got more than the Packers, they got more than the Vikings. 260 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: They have as many as the forty nine ers who 261 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: are having a great year the Seahawks, and the Packers 262 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: only got two yeah really yeah each Rogers or Baktari 263 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: and Wilson and Wagner. So the Cowboys doubled up two 264 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the So, No, they're fine, 265 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: They're absolutely fine. That's what's crazy, though it's likely got 266 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: more than they deserve to have off the strength of 267 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, we talk about them not being as 268 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: good this year, but then when you compare them to 269 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the league, it's like they're still pretty 270 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: damn good. So it's almost the fact that the meeting 271 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: our expectations farming team. And that does speak to the 272 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: talent level. And we've had this debate back and forth, 273 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: or they really as talented as we think. I think 274 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: it does speak to the fact that when you've got 275 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: three guys in offensive line that are even in that conversation, 276 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: that matters, right, how many teams around the league have 277 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: three offensive line whether you believe that Travis had as 278 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: best you or any of them have, or whether they 279 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: deserve this to have three guys that are even in 280 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: the conversation on one offensive line, And by the way, 281 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: make the argument that the best of them didn't get 282 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: placed on that list in Lyle Collins, who has that right, 283 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: and that says they got talent, they just haven't been 284 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: able to I mean you can also say too, I 285 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: mean four Pro bowlers that that's great, but when it's 286 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, when it's third and six, and in your defense, 287 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: none of those Pro Bowlers are helping you. So yes, 288 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: you do have talent, but my point all along is 289 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: is it spread around equally and to the point where 290 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: you know you could still lose games because of your 291 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: defense and your offensive line at times this year didn't, 292 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: you know, as dominating as they can be, they didn't 293 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: go dominate a lot of games. That's why I'm surprised 294 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: that the three guys made the Pro Bowl honestly too. 295 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 296 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some storylines. 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At 334 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: the start, we're talking Cowboys Versus Eagles. Nick's gonna tell 335 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: us the storylines of the week. What are the things 336 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: that fans will be tracking this week heading into this 337 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Eagles and the child. Dave can help me 338 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: with it too, because Dave helped me. He did. That's right, 339 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: you wrote the story. Write the story. Um, that's what 340 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: happens when the boss decides that, right. He just like, hey, Dave, 341 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: why don't you write this story? No, it really happens 342 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: when people put like four meetings in one day. Teamwork 343 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: makes the dream? Does that? I don't know anyways? All right? 344 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: For the Eagles, I mean it's it's similar to the 345 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys of it. This is do or die for them. 346 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean they if they don't win this game, they're 347 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. It's not exactly the same for 348 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but you know, they have to win this game. 349 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Uh and if they don't, then the Cowboys win the 350 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: NFC East. If if they win, they have to beat 351 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: the Giants. Um or Cowboys have to win or the 352 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys can lose if they beat the If they beat 353 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and then they both lose, the Eagles will 354 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: win their vision. So um, obviously they got to win 355 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: this game because they can't count on the Redskins beating 356 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: anyone or you know, and can't count anything with the Giants. 357 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: Is one of the things that Dave mentioned and he'll 358 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: talk more about as their receivers are just so banged up. 359 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I guess the three guys they've got 360 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: now are gonna be Whiteside, Davis and Ward. I mean 361 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: those are the three Gagalore could be back for this game. 362 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: That's something to watch. But I mean that's he doesn't 363 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: scare you, you know, if anything, you're kind of like sure, 364 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: that sounds great. Ward is a former quarterback, yeah, college 365 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: quarterback for those of you who follow you of h football. 366 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was the same guy, Yeah Houston, 367 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was the same guy to 368 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: Clarence mentioned it while we were watching the game on 369 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Sunday and I was like, Oh, that is that guy, 370 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: and he's he's a really small guy, it seems like, 371 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: but but yeah, it's a guy that's been been changed 372 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: over from quarterback to receiver, so you would think he's 373 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: probably not a polished receiver at this point. It's a 374 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: really cool story, like he's I mean, he's yo yoed 375 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: on and off the roster like sixteen times and he 376 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: caught the game winner. It's Washington like broke down in 377 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: the end zone, which I totally get it, but he 378 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: he shouldn't scare you in terms of just beating up 379 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: on the Dallas secondary. Right. And then one guy that 380 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: is starting to kind of provide a spark for them 381 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 1: as Miles Sanders. He has a thousand yards in both rushing, 382 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean a thousand yards total from scream and rushing receiving, 383 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: and it's a really nice touchdown catching the back of 384 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: the end zone. If you saw that play, I mean, 385 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: it was a great throw by the guy. You've been 386 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: talking my Ampson's draft, right. I really love Miles Sanders, 387 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: But that was just one of the best I've seen 388 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: all year. Carson Wentz, that was outstanding. Their secondary it's 389 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: been pretty bad, uh, Dwayne Askins got them pretty good. 390 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah last week, not enough to win, but they've been 391 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: banged up as well. They got all kinds of problems 392 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: there in the secondary. And then one thing I did 393 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: see that third down. They're the second best team in 394 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: the league on third down, so they're they're tough to 395 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: get off the field and offensive offense forty seven percent 396 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: they're converting. The only team better than that it's the 397 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at forty eight points, so a lot of 398 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: third down conversions. And then of course the Cowboys. We know, 399 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: we know that the Cowboys storylines, right, I mean Malcolm 400 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Smith MVP. Yeah signed. Where's number forty three? One of 401 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: the few numbers in NFL history? I mean in the 402 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys that is a two ring of honor. Players have 403 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: worn forty three. One name them. I'm sure you know. 404 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why Cliff Harris Amber seriously no idea. 405 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: Don Perkins am Now, I played in nineteen sixty two. 406 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: You weren't even like a thought like even you that 407 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: name close to forty three. That doesn't even look or 408 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: in my head, I don't see it. Yeah yeah, And 409 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: it was one of the guys upstairs was like trash 410 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: number forty three. He's like, well, there's a couple of 411 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: Ring of Honors before we before we just you know, 412 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: we just throw it away. Yeah yeah, Maybe it's one 413 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: of those numbers that like means something like can't just 414 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: give it forty three to anyone. Maybe they gave it 415 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: to Sensiball. What are you trying to say? I just 416 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: wanted to get his name in there, drilled Sensiball. Okay, good, 417 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: all right, Dave, tell me about this Philadelphia offense. Um, 418 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: they're super duper banged up. That's I mean that. I mean, Nick, 419 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: the main thing is the receivers. Yeah, um, they don't 420 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: have any left. Nelson ago Or might be back. Good 421 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: for him. He won a game for the Falcons this year. 422 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. I mean, And wasn't he the one 423 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: that the that the fire fire not the fire Yeah, 424 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: the guy from the viral video of from the fire 425 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: in Philly, Like you know, I was just catching them 426 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: unlike Agilore. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean so it's it's 427 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: Nelson Agloor jj Ar Saga Whiteside, greg Ward Junior U 428 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: that's their receiver. Yeah, no, absolutely. My first note is 429 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: that Ertz is definitely gonna play receiver. A bunch they do. 430 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they have two good tight ends. They still 431 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: put their tight ends on the line. But like watching 432 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: the Redskins game, I was shocked at how often it's 433 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: like because you never see it, and when you do 434 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: see it, you notice it. How often the Eagles just 435 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: had five men on the line of scrimmage, like five, 436 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, two tackles, two guards in the center and 437 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: nobody else. Because Ertz and Goddard lined up out wide 438 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: so much, it's like it's striking when you see that, 439 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: because that's not NFL football. They do it a lot 440 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: out of necessity. Ertz and god Or can both line 441 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: up out wide. They are the number one and number 442 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: two receivers on this team by a hysterical margin. Um 443 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: ERTs ERTs is. It's it's comical. I say hysterical for 444 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: a reason. Where where are my stats? Uh Ertz has 445 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: eighty four catches. The number two receiver on this team 446 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: has got her with forty five. So it's both of 447 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: their tight ends they're just running away with it. Um 448 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: so I don't understand why teams haven't to this point 449 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: butt into games, particularly last week, and I would think 450 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: this week as well, saying okay, take ERTs away, force 451 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: them to you can double him, or you put a 452 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: cornerback on him. And if you put a cornerback on him, 453 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: let's say you decide that you're just gonna run with 454 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: with with um virons just on him the whole game. 455 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna still catch some passes because he's really good, 456 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: but you could limit him, I think. And if you 457 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: take him away or you at least limit him, what 458 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: else do they have to really be able to hurt you? 459 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: You know what? I was thinking that too. But but okay, 460 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: even though we don't know those receivers very well, there's 461 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: still wide receivers in the NFL. GOT So the point 462 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: is is that if you're gonna put Byron Jones on 463 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: Arts and Cheeto on Goddard, you can't just put Jalen 464 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Smith on Greg Ward and say that that that's gonna work. 465 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you can't ye have five corners for everyone, 466 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: because he's just saying they're spreading everybody out, so they are. 467 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: I still think there's some mismatches there that the Eagles 468 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: are Eagles. I feel better about Greg greg Ward going 469 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: up against whoever you want to throw out at cornerback 470 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: that would be your fourth cornerback. I still feel better 471 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: about that than I do letting Arts match up with 472 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Yeah, like that to me would be a 473 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: problem for the count. That's what's what two tight ends 474 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: are supposed to do. They're supposed to be on the 475 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage at the snap, almost at the snap 476 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: at the ball. They could run the ball, So you 477 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: have to kind of honor that because they can block 478 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and get in the way and the next thing you know, 479 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: they spread out, and now how do you handle that. 480 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: That's what a really good two tight end set is 481 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: supposed to do. It. I'm sure that that's what they do. 482 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: If Arts is off the line, I would put a 483 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: corner on it, I agree. And if he's on the line, 484 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I would double him with the linebacker. And Jeff, he's 485 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: That's what I would That's exactly right. And he and 486 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: when I say like he's not flexed out like you 487 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: know in the slot, like he goes everywhere. He'll he 488 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: lines up outside too. He can do all that and 489 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys probably will use cornerbacks to cover 490 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: him when when the need arises. It just depends on 491 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: where he lines up. I would literally go into the 492 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: game defensively and say every play, I'm identifying where he is, 493 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: and based on where he is and what I think 494 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: that that what my study tells me of how they're 495 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: going to use him. I'm gonna have either able either 496 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: double or I'm gonna have one of my better corners 497 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: on him, and I'm gonna try to limit him and 498 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: force the quarterback to go somewhere else. Because here's the deal. 499 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: If greg Ward's beat if greg Ward beat you or 500 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: whoever else Whiteside beat you, then okay, they beat us. 501 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: They were good that day, right, But I'd rather take 502 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: away the guy that I know can beat me and 503 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: make somebody else do it, then then go with something 504 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: that's a little more spread out that That's the point though, 505 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have that many players, so that 506 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: so that's why they're gonna go. That's why the mismatch 507 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: is there. If you want to take away their tie 508 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: in with your corner, then one of your safeties has 509 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: to cover one of their receivers. Right, you know, okay, 510 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: and again, you're good with that. If you're talking about 511 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: one of their their second or third receiver on that list, 512 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm good with that. I'll take that chance. I completely, 513 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I completely and one percent agree with Derek these receives. 514 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if jj R Sega Whiteside uh takes over 515 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: this game and be too he just he just won't. 516 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't really believe that he's got eight 517 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: catches on the year. Uh. They went into that. They 518 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: purposely played with three receivers in the In the Redskins game, 519 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: he was targeted twice and finished with no catches. I 520 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: think he could be a good player. He's a third 521 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: round pick, but I don't think he's there right now. 522 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: Nelson Agilore has a long history of not being that good. 523 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: He's Jalen Smith has to cover any of those guys. Yeah, 524 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I would have put him out there. 525 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: I'd rather put I take, I'd take my safety. I'd 526 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: take I'd take one of my safeties and slide them 527 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: down to cover a guy in the slot or cover 528 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: a guy outside before I would send Jalen out on him. 529 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: But okay, I just think it's a little bit harder 530 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: than just saying, just put two corners on those guys, 531 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: because I think they can come back. And in this 532 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: scenario saying Goddard necessarily and Godder might be the guy 533 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: that actually ends up really hurting you this week if 534 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: you really pay a lot of attention to Arts. But 535 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: I would take away their top threat and it's clear 536 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: as by that number he's doubling the next closest receiver 537 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: as far as just productivity to me, you take him away, 538 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: and you force the quarterback to identify all the guys 539 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: that are open, and you force those other guys to 540 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: beat you. I think that's a strategy worth taking in 541 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: these hypothetical scenarios, like if the Eagles came out there 542 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: with twelve personnel, two tight ends, two receivers, I would 543 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: put a cornerback on Earth's if he's you know, if 544 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: he's out there, and double Goddard and just one up 545 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: the rest of him. And that includes make him just 546 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: beat me one up. That includes the running back, which 547 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: that's scary because that's the next part is after the 548 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: tight ends. It's the running backs. I mean, that's what 549 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: wins has right now, and that's almost exclusively what they 550 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: use Miles Sanders has forty two catches on the year. 551 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: He's dynamic in both aspects. He's a good runner, two, 552 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: he makes great cuts. He seems like he's got really 553 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: good vision. And also the Eagles have a talented offensive line. 554 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson hasn't been playing, but he might be back. 555 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Something to watch this week. Don't make me say the 556 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: name of the guy that's playing for him. It's it's 557 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: Big V. You know, Big V. Yeah, you remember Hims 558 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Peters As far as his health, because it seems like 559 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: he's always kind of in and out. Right now he's 560 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: been playing. I mean, yeah, that's fair, but he's been 561 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: playing okay, so it's I mean, by that standard, it's 562 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: better than it has been in recent matchups. Um, they 563 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: scheme a lot of just short throws for Wentz even 564 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: like Ward caught a lot of passes like in motion 565 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: where he motions into the flat and I'm rewinding the tape, 566 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: like was that a running back that caught that or 567 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: a receiver? Because they I don't think these guys can 568 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: run routes. Having Agilore might help them just from the 569 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: sense that he probably knows the whole route tree. I'm 570 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: not convinced that Ward and Whiteside do because they're scheming 571 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: up really basic stuff for them to run like, not 572 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: because Wins can't do it, but I don't know if 573 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: they can. So Aglore might help just in the sense 574 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: that he can play traditional wide receiver a little bit 575 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: more three dimensionally. Wentz is very athletic, and a lot 576 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: of this stuff comes from his ability to extend plays. 577 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: If you get a shot at him, you gotta get 578 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: him on the ground. He made a lot of plays 579 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: in this game just by extending him, the throat of 580 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders being one of them. I mean, he drew 581 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: that thing out for eight or nine seconds before he 582 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: finally threw the ball. Boston Scott know that name. I 583 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: think he's not as under the radar as he would 584 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: have been because everybody watched that Monday night game where 585 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: he played great. But he's been targeted at forty No, 586 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, where are we at? He's he's had thirteen 587 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: receptions in the last two weeks and he's got fourteen 588 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: on the year, so it's very I mean it's out 589 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: of necessity, but they are finding him and making him 590 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: part of the offense. He's also carried the ball sixteen 591 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: times for eighty five yards in the last two games, 592 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: so like he has developed into a pretty reliable part 593 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: of their offense because they don't have any receivers. Him 594 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: and Sanders can both run, they can both catch Boston 595 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Scott Miles, Sanders, Dallas Goddard and Zach Ertz. Like that's 596 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: how this offense is going to move, and they've shown 597 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: that it can. They scored and they scored thirty points 598 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: against Washington doing this, and like Wins is a good 599 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: enough quarterback to pick this skill player group up, I think. 600 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, as we know, we just saw a game 601 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: last week with the Cowboys where the tight ends and 602 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: the running backs. I mean that was the offense and 603 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: the receivers weren't has involved. So we know you can 604 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: win like that, and they probably have better well not probably, 605 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: they've got better tight ends, So I'm not saying they 606 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: can't win. My thought is just you gotta you gotta 607 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: force them to do with other people rather than let 608 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: the guy you know can beat you beat you. I 609 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: don't even want to say this because it always starts 610 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a firestorm, like the Dak Wins debate, just gets people going, 611 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: like Eli Romo used to and I know, like dak 612 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: leads Dak Lee the league and drops and it hasn't 613 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: been perfect for him. I think the world of Dak 614 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz doesn't have a lot to work with right now, 615 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: and he's still playing pretty well. Like I'm sure early 616 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: in the year he had some he had most of 617 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: his guys and it was that was a while there 618 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: where Urts really wasn't really going the way you would 619 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: expect Urts to be going there. He has some struggles 620 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: early in the season. This offense has gotten like maybe 621 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: two games out of their preferred skill package, you know 622 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like George DeShawn Jackson, that was a 623 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: huge They got one game out of de Shawn Jackson 624 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: had great If you if you watch that game, it's 625 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: obvious what they wanted him to be for this offense 626 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: and they haven't had it. And they've had to readjust 627 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, Alshon Jeffrey's a hell of a receiver, 628 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: but he's not that burner dude that scares the hell 629 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: out of you. 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Offer back to the Break. 677 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: Final segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios. 678 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: At the start, we want to take some questions from 679 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: you guys. Call us eighty eight eight five, five two 680 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: to ninety seven will take your calls that way. I 681 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: also have a question right now for you guys from 682 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: Joshua her Nandez. You sent this via Twitter said, did 683 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: you see the Cowboys blitz anymore because of the Eagles 684 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: not having any serious threats at the wide receiver position? Yeah? 685 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you're talking about guys that don't 686 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of great speed and they're not big 687 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: guys that can go, you know, down the field and 688 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: I'll jump you. Yeah. I like the match up there. 689 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: And that's one thing about tight ends. As good as 690 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: they are, they put their body on you and stuff, 691 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: but they're not that quick where they're gonna just, you know, 692 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: right off the bat get open. So I could see 693 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: I could see where you get some blitzes early, you know, 694 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: not early in the game, but I mean a blitz 695 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: is that'll get him get the ball out of his hands. 696 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: I would be in favor of it. I mean, they're 697 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: twenty seventh in the league and blitz rate. I think, 698 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: oh the Cowboys, like, I mean, they just they just 699 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: don't they just don't do it. They never really have, 700 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: um I hope, So I mean we I mean they 701 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: blitzer has got both of their sacks in the last game, 702 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe they build that in. I would be 703 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: in favor of it. Miles Sanders, I mean, that's the 704 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that'll hurt you if you keep blitzing 705 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: the light out. I want to know what kind of 706 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense we're gonna get this weekend, because you can 707 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: go both ways. Obviously we've seen them having great games 708 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: like the last one, but then at the same time, 709 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: we've seen them when they get really hurt by the 710 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: running back and even tight ends and those little short 711 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: plays that they just sometimes are unable to cover at all. 712 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see. It's a I mean, 713 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: it's a good thing when the other team doesn't have 714 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: any wide receivers. But the players they do have are 715 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: what you need good linebackers for, and that's what the 716 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys don't really have right now. There leaves a lot 717 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: of stress on the linebacker corps. Lee's hobbled, Joe Thomas 718 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: has hobbled. Malcolm Smith just got here. So I mean 719 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna tight ends and running backs like that's kind 720 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: of that's your area of expertise. So it's gonna be 721 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: big for them. All right, Let's get a phone call 722 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: from Steve in New Jersey. Steve, what up? Hey, guys? 723 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: How good to call you. I really love the show 724 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: and listening to it every day. Um, forty plus year 725 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan here, I'm wright and stuck in. I'm like 726 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: white as the shore in Jersey here. Do you know 727 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? So I'm white and stuck up between 728 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Giant and Eagle terrors story, so Eagles are much more rougher. 729 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: To believe me, I would even dare go to the link. 730 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Um, I gotta admit, guys, you know what 731 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: it seems like whenever our defense has played well. It 732 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: seems like we get good penetration from our tackles. I mean, 733 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: you know they do MALIEK Collins and he's been a 734 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit inconsistent. I remember you guys seeing at beginning 735 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: of the year. You guys thought he was going to be, 736 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, one of the guys coming out that Brian 737 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: and you guys all thought he was going to be, 738 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, better than he was last couple of years. 739 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: He's been inconsistent. If if they can get a push 740 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: up the middle on Wentz, that that can solve the 741 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: whole earth problem right there, I think personally, And it 742 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: seems like when their defense plays well, their tackles, you know, 743 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: get good penetration, and it seems like when they don't, 744 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: that's when they struggle because they just double dware and uh, 745 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, Quinn well, I have a d law but um, 746 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: you wish the war was there. But you know, you're 747 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: talking about the Eagles interior line. I believe two of 748 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: them are in the Pro Bowl right say. It's not 749 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: a great matchup Jason Kelsey and Brandon Brooks. I mean, 750 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: Brooks has been a fine for them. He just signed 751 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: a big money deal. He's been really good. So that's 752 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: not going to be at least Anteline Woods is back 753 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: and the end of the day. Yeah, I mean I 754 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: agree in theory, and that's I don't think MALIEK. Collins 755 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: has been bad. Inconsistence is probably a good word. I 756 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: mean that describes a lot of people on this team. 757 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: But if you had a and they haven't, they great. 758 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: I think he's at four four and a half sacks 759 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: or something like that, Malik. But I mean if they 760 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: had an you know, a nine or ten sack three technique, 761 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: which they haven't had since Jason Hatcher, Yeah, it could 762 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: make all the difference. Maybe we need to kind of 763 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: think about that more next year. You know, one year 764 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: of training camp we were like, oh, we're not We're 765 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna look at the kickers this year, you know, because 766 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: we got burned two years ago. Maybe we need to 767 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: look at that too with the offensive line and be like, 768 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: all right, are the line play and say, Okay, Malie 769 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: Collins looks like he's doing well, but is he really 770 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: because you know, they're not just like blocking to the 771 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: ground and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, he was 772 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: doing a nice job in those one on one drills 773 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: and all that but sometimes that's hard to translate into 774 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: actually playing when you get four on four out there. 775 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: So for four and five, all I know is and 776 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, we're not we're not infallible. 777 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: We make mistakes all the time and we can only 778 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: go off what we see and we were wrong. I 779 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: mean Xavier Woods and Cheeto jump out to my mind 780 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: in terms of guys that looked a lot better at 781 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: training camp. But like, it's not like all of this 782 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: is just our uninformed opinion, Like we talked to people 783 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: like the coaches were blown away by Malie Collins and 784 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: training camp like, but talked about him constantly here, like 785 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: tape sessions at night, like circling him and look at 786 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: this badass, look at the camp he's having, right, And 787 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: my point is is that and they also are seeing 788 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: him play. Yeah that's true. Yeah, but a lot of that, 789 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: a lot of the plays that that he that he 790 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: earned heads on. We're not necessarily just in the one 791 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: on ones. It was in the team as well. You're right, though, 792 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: when you're not playing live football then it is a 793 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: little different. It definitely is. But we say that every 794 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: year and you get to training camp. The reason why 795 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: you go to training camp, but everyone's excited, like who's 796 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: looking good? And all you can talk about is what's 797 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: in the moment, and that's all you can talk about. 798 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: You know. I've gotten dragged on a few occasions about 799 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: things I said during training camp. I'm like, cool, next summer, 800 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: I'll just go out there and not share anything with 801 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: y'all and we'll see how that plays. Like I'm sure 802 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: you would hate it even more, right, and you just 803 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: talk about what you see, And that doesn't mean it 804 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: always translates into the season. We've seen that many times before. 805 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: Guys can have great camps, not necessarily a great season 806 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: without a doubt, though, if the defensive tackles can provide 807 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: a push, because you know that Quinn and Lawrence and 808 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: Bennett and Bennett might be one of those guys, you know, 809 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: providing the push. But those guys are gonna get some 810 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: outside rush and that's they're going to force the quarterback 811 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: to step up. How how much room does he have 812 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: to step up is the big question. If he's got 813 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: no room, then that's a sack and that's a turnover 814 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: and that's a big play. That's the key. So the caller, 815 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: I think is right defensive tackles need to provide that push, 816 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: and it's been inconsistent. It's a massive bummer that safety 817 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: and d tackle or their two biggest needs, and neither 818 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: one of them feels addressed right now. Yeah, not for 819 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: lack of trying, but just doesn't mean they tried. They had. 820 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: I understand, I'm saying at defensive tackle, you can't address 821 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: both of them. The second round pick, Like that's the 822 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: highest pick you had. You addressed one of them. And 823 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't like they say, it doesn't feel like it 824 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: was addressed, because you're not singing it was addressed in trade. 825 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: They had to go get Michael Bennett. True, honestly, even 826 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: if even if Tristan Hill develops into a good player, 827 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: like Malik is a free agent, Jeff Heath is a 828 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: free agent, Xavier Woods is not, but he's closer to 829 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: the end of his contract from the beginning, and no, 830 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: he's addressed. I just thinking Antoine Woods is a restricted 831 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: free agent. Yeah, I mean, and throw tight end in 832 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: there too. They there's three bugaboo spots, and I mean, 833 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: Jarwin looks promising, but you still you feel kind of thing. 834 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean, also, you're losing Michael Bennett. He's a free agent. 835 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: He's gone when as quinnep gone, Yeah, not coming back. 836 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: Don't think you don't think, Oh, I think they might 837 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: be willing to pay him good money, not great money. 838 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: They're not gonna pay him tank money. But he's one 839 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: of those it's hard to gauge. Somebody might pay him 840 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: pretty good money, but at his age, you would think 841 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: it's a shorter term deal. So they may be willing 842 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: to pay him a significant amount on a short term 843 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: two year deal, one year deal, whatever it is. Right, 844 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: those guys are hard to gauge because like he's gotten 845 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: his he's gotten a contract extension, like he's made big money, 846 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: and so now like length of the deal, money, how 847 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: much he likes the area, how much he likes the area, 848 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: how much he likes the scheme, and that'll depend on coaching. 849 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, we're way in the weeds. 850 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: We have so much change coming soon. You didn't I 851 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: didn't think so coming into this year. I thought that 852 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: so much was locked up. But it really is a lot. 853 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: They got a lot that they'll have a lot of 854 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: decisions to make, a lot of contracts to be made, 855 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that they may be won to 856 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: keep that they won't be able to keep. So yeah, 857 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gonna be a very 858 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: very interesting offseason once you get there. And not to 859 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: mention the whole cloud that's hanging over this coaching stuff, 860 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: like there's a lot that's gonna be happening in this offseason. Ye, 861 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna that's that's it for us. Actually, 862 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: we'll be back actually done. We'll be back on with 863 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. We'll get into this Philadelphia defense. See 864 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: if that sounds any better or presents any interesting problems 865 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. So then for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, 866 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I am Derek Eagleson. This has been The 867 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has 868 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 869 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.