WEBVTT - Episode 77: The Haunted Mansion 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:15.360 Hello and welcome officially to Spooktober. I am one half 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.919 of your host, Danny Fernandez, and sitting across from me 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:23.200 as always is if He, if he, what are you well? 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:29.160 Are You're introducing me to s and now and your 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:36.680 whole Jacob Marley. Uh, this is nerdificent. It is October Weirds, 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.960 our happiest time of the year. It's the most wonderful 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.000 time of the year because we have jam packed Halloween 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.760 based episodes for all of you horror babies, which if 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.800 he is now an honorary horror baby because he was 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.599 forced to now that he has to watch horror movies. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.280 Oh yeah, yeah, Who Shot You? Has put me through 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.800 too so far, which has both been scary stories to 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.920 tell in the dark and it chapter two which you 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.520 know you all had their spooks. The Paul Bunyan really 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:12.880 got me because the teeth were real creepy. They gotta 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:17.080 get you some real scary, real scary ones should come 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.000 over and do that. Uh. Sitting with us today is 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.080 filmmaker pop culture journalists and our good friends being the Graves. Hey, everyone, 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.679 I'm excited to be here. Vers Spooktober. You are a 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.319 very horror baby. Yes, I'm a very horror baby. I 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.440 like to joke that because I was born in June, 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.680 I was made during October. You know, you know, kudos 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:43.760 for doing the math. Um. Yeah, you you write a 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.119 lot about horror for a lot of your pop culture stuff. Um, 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.720 what is your favorite scary movie? Oh my gosh, that's 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:56.280 like right now, right now, my most favorite scary movie. Yeah, 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.720 so good. If you have not seen that, have you? 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.880 I think you can hang with it. Uh, Sabina. We've 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.320 been starting our podcast with what people are seeking out about. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.240 What are you getting out about this week? I'm actually 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:11.600 geeking out about Hadestown. It's a Broadway musical that is 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:17.160 supremely my jam. It's basically a retelling of the Orpheus 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.200 and you were to see myth uh if it wasn't 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:25.040 like the post apocalyptic dust bowl. And it's a very 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:29.880 awesomely diverse cast Under the Shield's Place Hermes you known 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.639 him from The Whiz and Reeve Carney is the lead 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.320 in that. He plays Orpheus and it's pretty awesome. Music 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.399 is amazing. It was originally a concept album um by 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:48.000 an Ace read her last name Mitchell, Yes, and he's 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.560 Mitchell and it like took years and years for to like, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.480 uh you know, be developed into musical and it actually 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.840 is the only Broadway musical right now that has a 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.919 female director. And she won the Tony d Also that's 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.000 kind of sad. Yeah, oh she called it out when 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.280 she went okay, good, Yeah, I love when they do that. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.640 If you what are you speaking out about? Oh man, Well, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:12.200 you know, it's uh October one and last weekend was 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.280 Twitch Con, so I'm probably still recovering, reeling from all 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.200 the fun meeting all the people in my community, uh 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:24.120 you know, nerd Fam, Salt Squad, all like who came 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.799 down to San Diego to turn up and meeting other creators. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.400 So that's what I'm speaking out about. Uh, you know, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.760 definitely look forward to any recaps that I may be 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:38.040 posting or talking about. But yeah, real stoked. Fresh Doc 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.760 finale went down without a hitch. I'm sure of it. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.240 And now it's you know, now it's time to see 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:50.440 what's next going to Hunted House? Well, yeah, yeah I do, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.760 because I did see you, uh you know, Chris and Risco, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.000 and I was like, oh, I didn't you want to 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.320 ask a play? Did not ask you? Because I've asked 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.200 you every Oh, well, you always asked me before my 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.800 body marinates and gets ready to be scared, you know, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.320 like no, I needed to be October to fully let 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.960 the scary juices get inside me, you know. Okay, but 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.480 the free tickets are for September, so I got away 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.560 from the scary juices. Um. The thing that I'm geeking 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.920 out about is I got to do a storyboard animation 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.560 class at six point Harness, which is an animation studio. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.159 You will recognize their work. They did hair Love, which 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.760 was the short that was before that was directed by 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.200 Matthew Cherry. That was a short that was before Angry Birds. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.800 Uh to. They also have done animation for Cartoon Network, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:42.840 Powerpuff Girls, Peanuts, super Dope. And they had a lot 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.240 of cool directors come in. They had a lot of 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:46.920 cool directors come in, and one of them was Matt 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.600 Danner who is the director for Muppet Babies. He is 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.600 also the voice of Little Kermit. It was so cute 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.640 and he sounds just like them. Um. And they had 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.520 a lot of cool a lot of cool people there. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.640 Noel Raphael l who is a She was a storyboard 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.920 artist now a director. UM who has gotten to work 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.440 on amazing things and Mario Diana who is the director 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.440 for Bob's Burgers and also working on other things, and 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.960 so it was really cool. It was so dope. I'm 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.840 not an animator or I'm like everybody could draw a 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.720 lot better than me, But I was more just wanted 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.320 to see the storyboard process as a writer and someone 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.479 that's going into animation, and so really really cool. Check 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.920 out their work. They also do you know these workshops 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.039 for free? I think like a hundred and fifty people applied. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.760 They only they had spots for thirties, so I was 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.960 really honored to be in there. But follow them on 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.080 Instagram so that you can pop in and if it's 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.599 something that you're interested in breaking into. They are a 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.520 great resource. That's what I'm geeking out about today. We 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:58.240 are talking about the Hunted Mansion. That music is so iconic. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.600 I feel like that's just I actually have I know 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.279 you and I have talked about this. UM. I have 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:10.800 a party version that I want to play the sun Spotify. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:16.160 It's under spooky, spooky scary skeletons. Yes, this is me 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.200 and this is me when I'm getting ready, like in 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.080 my kitchen. UM that makes it sound like I get 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.279 changed in my kitchen and the like when I'm getting 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.200 ready for my morning. Um, Sabina, what is your first 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.800 memory of the Hunted Mansion at Disneyland or disney World. Disneyland, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.120 for sure, I grew up in l A. So kind 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.200 of like going to Disneyland every year was a big thing. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.160 And honestly, the growing up, I just know that I 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.840 was scared and I had like my my face covered 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.480 with my face covered with eyes and my face covered 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.760 with my hands and trying to like peek through. And 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.600 it was definitely like a gradual love as I got 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.960 older with Haunted Mansion. So definitely like scared, you know, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.440 like honestly starting out scared, but then like why hitting 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.920 the graveyard you know and having all the ghosts come 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.760 out and being silly and fun, getting comfortable and loving 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.480 it and being just completely love. What about you if 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.440 because you are a former cast member, Yeah, so you 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.400 know the same way I grew up in l A. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.640 Same thing was a little scary when I was younger, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.440 but yeah, as especially when I was in cast member, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.880 uh the cast member years, when I was going to 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.360 Disneyland almost once a day, Haunt imagine was like a 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.960 half like I had to hit it once a day. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.480 It's just such a fun especially it's from my era 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.720 of Disney. Disneyland rides that are like super immersive, like 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.480 Pirates of the Caribbean. If you look at Peter Pan Mr. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.240 Toad's Wild Ride, like those are dark rides that kind 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.640 of take you in this world and you kind of escape, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.520 and the imagineers just kind of went all out, you know, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.200 and it was what was real creepy, even though I 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.360 think they toned it down now, was that room with 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.080 the lady who cut all our husband's head off? Like 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:05.720 that was very scary and and uh but and that's 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.800 that's my big argument that I'm gonna just go ahead 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.880 off the top, just start is the fact that I 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.960 do not like that they switch over to the Nightmare 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:19.080 before Christmas, because the Nightmare before Christmas is not scary, 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.720 it's very fun. Also, it's Christmas, it's a Christmas theme 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.520 were but they keep it up until Chris After, they 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.720 keep it till New Year's Yeah, I mean it's it's 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.160 it's silly. But the reason they do it is because 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.320 the ride has to be down for almost two weeks 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.839 to do the transition. So if you think of that 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.760 if you think of it that way, there's really no 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:46.200 way to transition because especially Disney, right after Halloween fully 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.960 starts to pivot into their holiday stuff, so they have 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.640 it's the trade off where they're just trying to beg 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.880 us to uh accept it. Because I've sat down with 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.760 another like disney Head, and we like talked about how 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.680 we both think it's lame. But then I think it 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.040 was with the podcast the Ride, because we were talking 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.800 about and I was talking about how I hated it, 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.560 and then we did uh once once we did get 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.520 to the fact that, like it has to be down 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.719 for two weeks, It's like, do you take the two 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.559 weeks that would have it be before you know, um 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.679 be be essentially block out Halloween. No, you don't want 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.360 to do that, or do you take it the first 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.719 two weeks of November, which, no, you don't want to 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.080 do it, even though I think you should. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.600 you don't need the first two weeks of November. But 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.520 I mean, in a perfect world, if the changeover was 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.800 could be quicker, I would love it if you had 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.640 it happened the night of of um Halloween, because since 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.560 the movie starts the night of Halloween, like that would 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.520 be fun, but that's is impossible just because they have 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.480 to add so much stuff. I uh, yeah, I guess 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.640 I'm in a different camp. I love it. And also 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:06.040 I you've made that apparent. What I will say is that, yeah, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.640 it's not it's not scary, and the Haunted Mansion Ride itself, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.160 I would say, isn't unless you are a young person. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.319 I can see someone around the age of like five 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:20.120 or six. You know, they're they're starting y you know 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.720 when you and I think this is why, because you 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.920 know how something. So if you don't know how the 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.240 Haunted Mansion ride works, it's in constant motion. It's a 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:34.480 conveyor belt throughout the omni mover. So if you have 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.040 these people who are not paying attention and they're not 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.440 getting in the Omni mover at the speed, they have 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.640 to stop it. And they really do not want to 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.960 do this because it stops the whole ride. But you 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.440 will always get in, you know. Sometimes people have you know, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.959 a disability or you know, and maybe like an old person, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.800 you can't because it does move, It moves out a pace. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.640 It definitely isn't like the slowest, but it's it'll stop. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.160 And I remember as a kid being stuck in front 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.640 of one of the scarier door knobs, and just I 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.800 was so sure that door was going to open. I 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.840 was so I think I've had to be like eight 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.079 or nine, and I was like, this is how a die. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.080 I've definitely gone. I get stuck every time I go there. Um. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.840 But yeah, so let's just hop right into it. You 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.840 they're right about it being a conveyor belt. You get 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:30.960 into a doom buggy that closes on its own. Uh. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:37.320 And the haunted manner itself has happy haunts, but there's 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.200 always room for one more. I'm way too excited about 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.280 this episode. So the idea for the mansion actually proceeds. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.199 Disneyland and W E. D Enterprises to win. Walt Disney 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.840 hired the first of his imagineers, as if he was saying, uh, 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:56.239 those were essentially like research and development people that we're 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.640 looking into the creation, design, and construction of the Disney parks. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.840 So Disney assigned imagineer Ken Anderson to create a story 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:08.680 using uh Disney legend. Harper Job's idea, which was to 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.080 build a New Orleans theme land in a small transition 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.120 area between Frontier Land and adventure Land. UH and so 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:21.280 New Orleans also has parts of the Caribbean, right, and 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:27.800 this old antebellum manner overgrown with weeds, dead trees, you 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.720 walk through a cemetery. Yeah, originally, Uh, it has always 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.880 been in different points of development since before Disneyland and 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:42.280 um Walt had basically so many hands touched this project. Honestly, 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.520 UM they were thinking that it would be at one 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.120 point a museum of the weird, where you'd go into 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.920 the mansion and there'd be like alternate route you could 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.640 exit through, but you'd be going in and experiencing just 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.679 like a haunted house walk through, and you'd encounter like 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:04.959 scary optical illusions or just crazy designs that all of 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.320 the different team members had planned out. And this was 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.199 while while was still alive. I guess, let's just go 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.319 through the actual mansion. So you get in, UM, and 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.880 we have the elevator, which if you're a small child 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.240 or I guess maybe Iffy, maybe you didn't know. I think, 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.840 like you know, you have the growing portraits, the famed 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.760 growing portraits, UM, and that is actually an elevator that's 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.560 taking you below. That's what you know below the actual park. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.440 So so all of the haunted mansion is actually underground, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.480 underground and like to the side for sure. Yeah, I know, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.199 like after the whole Museum of the Weird thing, it 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:47.080 kind of turned into a like they brought in different 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.640 imagineers who kind of decided to go a more just 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.240 dark ride um angle for it, and you know you 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.560 have like the stretching portraits. They brought in Extensio, who 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.000 is latin X, which really awesome. You know, like one 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.840 of the early Latino X engineers over at Disney. He 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.520 worked on Priors of the Caribbean. He was a lyricist 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.560 and the scriptwriter for that, and he was also brought 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.760 on board to write the story for the Haunted Mansion, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.880 so he all of his like dialogues, the first stuff 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.719 that we hear when we go in and meet the 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.200 ghost hosts like welcome foolish Mortals. Yeah. Can you talk 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.640 about the Um some of the stories in the mansion, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.120 So are there any particular ones behind the growing the 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.760 people in the growing Um portraits? So they were all 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.160 like different characters that were sort of invented as a 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.480 part of the mythology. There was never a like coherent 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.880 story to begin with um just because of all those 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.480 different evolutions and definitely it's one of the reasons why 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.400 it's such an intriguing place because you go in and 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:58.880 there's like, you know, Sally silt Walker, and like, um, 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.240 who's like the type of lady and he's still Walker. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:07.240 It's Sally something in my head, I'm like still Walker. Um. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.360 You also have you know, like the you have well 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.400 you have constants, so you see her as an older 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.600 woman on the gravestone of her husband and she's the bride, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.200 so she is still pretty much incorporated throughout the whole 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.760 right itself. Um, And basically when you're in there, you 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:29.720 have this you know, mansion of different spirits, some good, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:35.200 some maybe a little malevolin um. And you encounter you know, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.360 the hat box ghost, who is a recent edition even 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.840 though um he wasn't been around. He was originally on 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.760 the ride for a short while, but I guess that 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.400 people weren't happening with like the effect back then didn't 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.440 uh work as well as you know now we're able 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.920 to do it, um with his disappearing head. But yeah, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.720 I know. But but since then, like he was always 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.680 a part of like a lot of the marketing uh 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:06.040 sort of advertisement and became like this cult legend um 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.240 who finally has found his place back in. Yeah, speaking 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.000 of people making their place and making their place not 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.720 back in, I don't know if you have the crow, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.080 the little crow around there. If you're on the ride, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:23.280 you'll see like a little crow at different portions of 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.440 the of the ride. Originally that was supposed to be 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.240 the narrator and then that was scrapped and they're like, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.120 no talking crow. Um. There's also one thing I always 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.360 have to mention as an ex cast member. It's imperative 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.520 that I mentioned this one because you were talking about 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.480 how this was done where when Walt was still alive. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:47.040 Walt Disney has only ever step foot in Disneyland, which 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.160 means Disneyland is the only park with Walt spirit inside it. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.680 Walt passed away before disney World was created, so as 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.160 a as, although it maybe bigger and have all the 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.680 different parks, doesn't feel the same, doesn't feel the same, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.359 It doesn't have a spirit inside of it. I know 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.800 that because I my friend was in the Disney College program. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.080 He was a cast member at and cast member. By 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.000 the way, if you don't know, is anyone that works 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:16.160 at the Disney parks, Um, they're called cast members, and um, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.080 he was at Disney World. I can't say what he 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.480 did off to tell you off the things. I don't 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.480 want to get him in trouble because he's one of 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.920 the characters. But he finally he worked at disney World, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.360 and I'm like, dude, you have to go to Disneyland. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.880 I love Disneyland. There's just something like extra magical about it. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:34.800 And he went and he was like, I see what 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.240 you mean. I think it's because all of the care 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.639 that was put into it. Like I love disney World. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.280 Disneyland is like the originals. You know. It's like these 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.520 were not replicas, Like this was the original rides. This 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.160 was the like the down to, like the little painting 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.000 details in the rides. It's just so Yeah, it has 0:17:55.000 --> 0:18:01.520 like a more quaint, familial magic to it. Um other 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.439 speaking of, like a really eerie coincidence that kind of 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.320 does give Disney or a little bit of Disneyland's heart 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.560 is that the Hunted mansion at disney World was built 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.200 at the same time as a haunted mansion at Disneyland. Yeah, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.600 like they kind of have like those at all. Yeah, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:21.560 Disney is real real into that, which is why there's 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.000 a ride that's just sitting waiting for Galaxy's Edge because 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.440 they want to make sure that Disney World gets at first. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:32.520 Be a shame if Disneyland had something before Disney World 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.880 and everything has to be he cool, um Disney as 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.920 as if as a cast member, Disney really does put 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.840 sometimes almost too much thought into everything they do. They're 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.320 very into the immersion of the idea you're as a 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.520 cast member, as a former castmer, you're not able to 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.280 discuss like things that are going on outside of the park. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.840 Like I remember I was working during the Super Bowl 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.480 and they're like, you are to not give any scores. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.560 You can't can't give any scores. You can ask for 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.800 scores because they and that's why, like if you notice 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.040 certain portions of the park that will be fake sky, 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.520 it's because Walt never wanted you to see outside of 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.280 the park. He wanted you to be fully immersed in Disneyland. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.359 And and and that's why I like, you know, and 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.800 um something that was really pushed on us as cast members. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.040 And once you when you work there, you you feel 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.399 the magic. It's not like it's forced, but it's the 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.440 idea of a magical moment. You can create a magical 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.680 moment for a kid or a family just by doing 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.040 something sweet that you're trying to create moments that they 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.600 will remember forever. And that's how you interacted. So and 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.520 that's why anytime you see these people going viral, you 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.399 know online of like, oh they did this, is like 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.800 that's that's that's part of that's you know, it's not 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.080 to diminish it in any way, but that's part of 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.400 the job. As you're looking for those moments, um and 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.800 when and if you do see something, do not ask, uh, 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.480 who is the Like, don't say what's the actress that 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.520 plays X y Z, say who is the friend of that? Yes, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.600 because that is the way because like you know, like 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.840 Danny said, the guest, if you are it's like you 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.679 don't play Cinderella, you're Cinderella's friend. You're a friend of Cinderella. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.760 You're a friend of Belle. That's like the Santa the 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.280 mall Santa's So this is kind of cool. Two of 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:27.520 the mansion's main designers, Mark Davis and Claude Coats, disagreed 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.280 on whether the right should be frightening or enjoyable. Um 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.960 Claude originally was a background artist wanted a scary Adventure 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.320 in produced renditions of moody surroundings like endless hallways, corridors 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:43.080 of doors, and numerous characterists environments. This is also fascinating 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.080 because it says that Walt Disney actually visited UM the 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.480 Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California, and then inspired 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.560 him for he never wanted the mansion to be like 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.919 scary and decrepit on the outside. He was like he 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.520 loved the aesthetic of like the Winchester Mystery House being 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.440 like pristine and gorgeous, but once you go into the 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.720 haunted mansion, it's the ghosts that kind of take care of. Like, yeah, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:05.840 and just for anyone that doesn't know, the Winchester Mystery 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.200 House has a bunch of like stairs that lead to nowhere, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.680 doors that open two walls. It's we should go ify. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.679 I actually never been there, for I was in a 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.679 pilot for Fangoria where we had to spend the night 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.639 at haunted places, and that was the next place that 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.199 we were going to spend the night. Well, we'll hit 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.640 them up for this podcast. We'll get it sponsored by 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.679 the Winchester Mystery House. UM, And so they kind of 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.639 both got their wish of having it, you know, be 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.080 silly and full of gags, but also areas that it's 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.720 super dark. The ride narration was performed by Paul Freeze 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.040 and the role of our ghost host uh and the 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.720 Tractions theme song is grim Grinning Ghosts, which was composed 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:48.320 by Buddy Baker, with the lyrics as Sabina said by Extensio. Yes, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.640 and one of the cool things are at about exit 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:52.320 ten TiAl is that he was saying that like in 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.679 the midst of everyone kind of like being like should 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.040 be scarier, it should be funnier. Um, he kind of 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.040 like helped everyone get real back in because at the 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:02.760 end of the day and this is all happening, as 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.919 you know, wal was certain to get sick. And you know, 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:07.600 Walt's whole thing with it is that he wanted it 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.119 to be inviting, you know, and something that could be 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.720 inviting can also still be spooky and fun, you know. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.400 And I like how it kind of even harkins too. 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.640 You know. What we love about Coco that came out 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.680 recently is that like ghosts and like life in all 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:28.360 of its forms, can be something to not be afraid 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.560 of and to kind of like accept in, you know, 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.680 be a part of the Swinging Wake if he um, 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:35.879 I know you're not gonna want to hear this, but 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.000 the first time that I played with Auigi board was 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.280 for that pilot. We spent the night at Bob Baker's 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.359 Marionette Theater. I can't remember if I told you this, 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:47.600 but we Jamie Loftus, myself and a couple of other hosts. 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.000 We use a Luigi board, and I like none of 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:51.959 us were moved, like we would not be able to 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.760 have been answered these questions. It was like, we're like, 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.680 what's your favorite puppet? And it would like name something 0:22:56.680 --> 0:23:00.439 that we didn't even know. Um. But one of the 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:05.000 things that when we asked it like how about the afterlife? 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.920 And it just seemed like cool, like everyone was hanging 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.000