1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. Why 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to like me? How's that for a topic? 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: How is that for a topic here on Fitness Disrupted? Bizarre, weird, strange? 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: You go, what the heck does that have to do 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: with anything? Well, it does. It's super important. It's super 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: important when it comes to this crazy wild West world 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: of health and wellness. Why you don't have to like me? Now? 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: When I first started this show, way back when I 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: think we're really close kind of look almost two shows, 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. And when I first started, when 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: I was writing the spots, the commercials if you will 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: spots for the show. What did they say? Some of 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: you may remember, some not so if you may have 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: not heard them. Uh, the gist was, when your car 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: breaks down, do you take it to a trained mechanic 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: with years of experience and education, or do you take 18 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: it to a celebrity and right now, let me throw 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: in or an Instagram star? Well, then why would you 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: do that with your health? Because that is what so 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: many people are doing, especially in this new world of 22 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: social media where anyone can have a huge audience, and 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: quite often it's not the right people that are getting 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: those huge audiences. So that's what today shows about why 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to like me. And it comes from 26 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: a critique that I've heard before several times and it 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: bears discussion, and I'm okay with that. Into this industry 28 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: a long time, and I say it almost every show 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: for a reason, but it annoys certain people. So I'm 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: going to address it. It bears addressing why you don't 31 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: have to like me. We'll be right back. This fitness industry, 32 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: health and wellness industry, exercise, nutrition, crazy crazy, and decades ago, 33 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: when I decided that this was going to be my future, 34 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: that this was what I was going to do, that 35 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I had tried everything, I had done the finance and 36 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and yes, that's what my 37 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: family did and most of my friends, but no, this 38 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: is what I was passionate about. This is what I 39 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: was gonna do. So how was I going to be 40 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: one of the best. How was I going to separate myself? 41 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: How was I also going to give the best information possible, 42 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: be the best role model possible? And all of those 43 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: things should be part of this industry. Unfortunately, they're often 44 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: none of them when it comes to the people that 45 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: are out there. And so I said, I'm gonna go 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: back to school. I'm going to get the certifications, I'm 47 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: going to get a master's degree, and I'm going to 48 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: work my butt off in every available part of this industry, 49 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: starting at the bottom, starting, as you know, well, as 50 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: a trainer, group exercise instructor, doing everything possible. So I 51 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: know this industry inside and out and I did that 52 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: for decades, and I talk about it and I talk 53 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: about it all right, and that annoys certain people. And 54 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: there's three basic buckets that I will talk about because 55 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: this is exactly when I made that conscious decision to 56 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: make my passion my vocation, when I focused on So 57 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about why. I talk about three basic 58 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: areas experience, education, and then performance. And there are people 59 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: that fit one bucket in this industry. They are the 60 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: PhD people. Awesome, I'll have them on the show. Awesome. 61 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: There's there's a handful that I truly believe are the best, 62 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: and those are the ones I have on the show. 63 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: The researchers. Okay, the ones in the university, but those 64 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily the ones who are exercising they talk about 65 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: being in the Ivory tower, but not truly applying it. 66 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: And then you have those that apply it and those 67 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: are often on Instagram, or you have the professional athletes 68 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: people like that that have no idea of the science 69 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: and often completely get it wrong. And they have a 70 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: lot to do with genetics. But many of those people 71 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: get hurt. Many of those people hurt other people, if 72 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: we're being honest. So my goal was to fill all 73 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: the buckets which to get experienced in all over the years, 74 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: and that's not easy to do. That is a huge 75 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: investment of time and money with a very a very 76 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: limited payoff depending on how you position yourself. In other words, 77 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 1: I have turned down significant opportunities because I don't believe 78 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: in them, because they go absolutely counter to what I 79 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: know is true. What I know is the science, and 80 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: what I know is good for people. And I'm going 81 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: to talk about that, Okay, Ideally that is why you 82 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: come to this show and listen. I did the show 83 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: on those people that I studied when I was making 84 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: my way up, the people I sought out, the people 85 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I listened to, and you know what they were, the 86 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: ones that had achieved something and had the best experience 87 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: in education, Those were the ones I was going to 88 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: learn from, emulate and copy. But in this health and 89 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: wellness world where image is everything, just what you see 90 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: a snapshot in time, a picture on Instagram that oftentimes 91 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: they're just genetics end oftentimes really bad bad practices, bad behaviors, 92 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: bad nutrition, bad exercise, but it's a snapshot in time, 93 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: and those are oftentimes the ones who are elevated. Listen, 94 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: if you have a million followers on Instagram, you're gonna 95 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: have a lot of companies reaching out to your nutrition. 96 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Wellness has nothing to do with your credentials, your health, 97 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: and your experience, and that's a problem. Let me give 98 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: you an example of there's a doctor who actually came 99 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: up yesterday from just one of the best out there, 100 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and he's actually local and I have referred so many 101 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: people to this doctor sports doctor over the years. He 102 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: is one of the best, if not the best, in 103 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: my opinion, at what he does getting people who are 104 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: hurt with specific issues back up and going. And I 105 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: back when I was a trainer, I had sent a 106 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: couple of clients to him and then you know, trained 107 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: them as well. They needed to hear it from a doctor. 108 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Many of them that it was okay to do what 109 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: was seemingly aggressive. But my point is this bedside manner 110 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: not so great for many of my clients really disliked 111 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: the guy. Some of them, and what I would say 112 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: to them before they went is us that you may 113 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: not like this person. It's not the best like you know, 114 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: listening and listen, he would shut down. Certain clients would 115 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: come in with a laundry list of what they thought 116 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: the issue was rather than listen to this expert. No, 117 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: they knew, here's what my shin splints are from. I 118 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: think it's my shoes. I think it's this, and he 119 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: would one one client, he crumpled up this piece of 120 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: paper and said, you know, I got this. But my 121 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: point is that it doesn't matter that you're not gonna 122 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: be friends with this person, or that he may turn 123 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: you off in certain ways personality wise. Listen. We wish 124 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: that it were different, but again a tough industry where 125 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: you gotta be a certain way. I would argue, h 126 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: have to be that way, but it makes life easier. 127 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: But the results are all that matters, is my point. 128 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: The results are what matter, and that this person has 129 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: some of the best education, some of the best experience. 130 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: And yes, guess what this doctor, he practices what he preaches. 131 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: He is an athlete, and he is a good athlete. 132 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: And I wanted to hear his stories when I would 133 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: sit down with him and interact with him. I wanted 134 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: to hear because you know what I was going to learn. 135 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: It's going to learn from his experiences, because that's what 136 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: it's about. So let me cut to the chase. You 137 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: know why many of the podcasts and fitness instructors and 138 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: fitness experts that you may hear from, do you know 139 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: why they don't talk about their experiences or education because 140 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: they don't have any. Because they don't have any. And 141 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: that's why you will hear so much content where what 142 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: do they do? They grab into one thing, right, They 143 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: grab onto one thing, A specific diet, a specific exercise, 144 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: it's keyto it's it's whatever, it's intermittent fasting, it's the 145 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: cardio makes you fat. Just watched a great twentysomething tell 146 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: me that cardio makes you fat on Instagram. Okay, Because 147 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: they can't talk about the experiences they've had working with 148 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: thousands of clients, some do and obviously are lying just 149 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: based on their age alone. But my point is they 150 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: don't talk about it because they can't. They don't have 151 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: the education, they don't have the experience working with a 152 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: diverse group of of populations young, old, injuries, you know, 153 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: sports specific professional athletes. And again I'm not saying this 154 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: to to prop myself up. Trust me, I'm good. I'm 155 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: okay with you know where I am. But I just 156 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: want to clarify in this crazy industry, you don't have 157 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: to listen to me necessarily, you know, I think should 158 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: and you are right now. But like the doctor, I 159 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: don't want to name him right now, but you want 160 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: the people who have studied it and applied it. And 161 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: in this crazy world, I can think of very few 162 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: vocations where it is so egregiously not the case. And 163 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: it's one thing to do this if you're selling shoes 164 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: or cars or homes or or even finance, right because 165 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: that world's filled with it. Hey, I'm gonna teach you 166 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: how to be you know, six figure income from people 167 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: who have never had a six figure, seven figure income, 168 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: unless it was teaching people how to potentially make six 169 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: figure in comes. But this is literally life or death 170 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: to abuse the term literally, but It applies here when 171 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: you take it to its extreme and you look at 172 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: some of the extremes diets, exercise programs, bad advice that 173 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: is being given. It's literally life or death. Literally life 174 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: or death. And when you go into a doctor's office, 175 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: what do they have on the wall? They have their credentials? Right, 176 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: if you walked into a doctor's office and you know 177 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: he had no credentials, you wouldn't feel as good about 178 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: what he was about to do. Right, this is pretty 179 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: damn close. It's actually preventing you from having to go 180 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: to the doctor's office oftentimes injuries, disease, preventable lifestyle issues. 181 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: All Right, Then when you go into the doctor's office, 182 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: do you not want to see the best credentials? And 183 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: then that's not even enough. As I said with the 184 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: doctor friend that I refer people to, if your doctor 185 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: is overweight, is that an issue? If your doctor hasn't 186 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: applied So it's not just the credentials, as I'm saying, 187 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: that's really important, but it's not the be all, end all. 188 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: And conversely, if your doctors in great shape but doesn't 189 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: have the education, that's a problem too. So we want 190 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: to seek out advice from the best of the best 191 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: who have applied it, who have studied it, who have 192 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: done both, and you don't have to like that person. Oftentimes, again, 193 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: when it's uncomfortable because I'm gonna tell you stuff that 194 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily want to hear, those excuses it's hard 195 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: to hear. Yes, you have time, it's hard to hear. 196 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: It's not about your edicts. It's hard to hear. It's 197 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: not just your metabolism things like that. And that's why again, 198 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: when you have people who tell you what you want 199 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: to hear, that's horrible in my opinion. You know, if 200 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: you have the trainer says, oh, you're working too hard. 201 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: You're only burning carbs because you're working to a too 202 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: hard in intensity. Now, oftentimes that trainer doesn't have the education, 203 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: doesn't know what they're talking about. And then sometimes which 204 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: is even worse, if they actually do know. But I 205 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: tell you what you want to hear. I've said it before. 206 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: I lost clients when I was a trainer, especially the 207 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: ones who wanted to work out too hard, who wanted 208 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: to hurt themselves, because that was bad advertising for me, 209 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: and that was more money I left on the table. 210 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: And oftentimes those are the type as those are the 211 00:14:53,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: wealthier ones oftentimes not always, but hmm, I wouldn't push them. 212 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do things that that were counter to their health. 213 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: That we're way too high on the risk reward spectrum. 214 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: And so I lost money there, but I was okay 215 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: with that because at the end of the day, I 216 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: want you to be as healthy as possible. All Right, 217 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a little worked up a little 218 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: bit now, I kid, it's this is a tough topic, 219 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: but I have to address it. It's super important. Final 220 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: break will be right back. So when I do a 221 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: show like this where the title is why you don't 222 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: have to like me, it's not obviously just about me, 223 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: or that would totally negate the whole premise, but it's 224 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: for everything when it comes to health and wellness. When 225 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: you go to your nutritionists, when you go to your 226 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: doctor who again, I want you to seek out the 227 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: best nutritionists. If you do, the best doctors, sports doctors. 228 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: If you do, and don't doctor shop, don't nutritionist shop. 229 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: That's the problem. Those are the people who tell you 230 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: what you want to hear. And that's why you don't 231 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: have to like me. If you always like what I 232 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: said I'm not doing my job, and I will take 233 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: that criticism that I talked too much about myself. Listen, 234 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I've worked my butt off twenty hour days for years 235 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: in the gyms, and I've invested an insane amount of 236 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: money in my education and continue to to this day. 237 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Why do I talk about the fact that I'm back. 238 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: You know that first of all, that I got a 239 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: master's you know, sports psychology and exercise science, because I 240 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: want you to know that I understand the psychology and 241 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: continue to study it, and I understand the exercise science 242 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: and now continuing to study Harvard Extension School one of 243 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: the coolest certificates course load that I've ever taken, with 244 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: the smartest perfect serves in human behavior. Human behavior, That's 245 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: what it's about. Yes, Like you need to know the 246 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: exercise science first and foremost. Then you've got to understand 247 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: how to change behavior and what influences it. So I'm 248 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: investing more time and more money, and I'm going to 249 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: talk about it. Sorry, sorry, because I want you to go. 250 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe I should listen to some of this. 251 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he has some clue what he's talking about that's important, 252 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: not selling shoes, And I want you if I give 253 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: you a piece of advice and listen, you're gonna find 254 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: things that work for you and things that don't. And 255 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: that's why I give you all the different options, and 256 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I give you the buckets of carbs and foods and 257 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: exercise and and the science behind them so you can 258 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: find what works for you. If I didn't have the 259 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: background that I have, I give you. Yeah, yeah, you should. Absolutely, definitely. 260 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: There's no other way than intermittent fasting. It's the only 261 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: way to do it well. When you don't have much 262 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: to draw on, that's where you go. But yeah, I'm 263 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: sorry if me talking about the three buckets, education, experience, 264 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: and races, and I'm going to talk about those experiences 265 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: racing because I get it. I get what it is 266 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: to suffer, and I put myself through those experiences so 267 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: that I can learn that I can see where those 268 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: lines are and that you know, if I ask you 269 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: to do something, to try something that I've done it myself, 270 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: hopefully numerous times over and at an extreme levels, so 271 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: that I can understand the human body without hurting myself. 272 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: By the way, without hurting myself, because I don't want 273 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: to hurt myself and I want to hurt you. I'm 274 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: not willing to do that. So enough short show, but 275 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: a super important concept that I want you to apply 276 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: to everything when it comes to your health and wellness. 277 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: If it doesn't make you uncomfortable. It goes to the 278 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: overload principle with muscles and cardiovascular It's the same thing behaviorally. 279 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: You hear and read these memes all the time from 280 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: people on Instagram, and again, have those people actually gone uncomfortable? 281 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Have those have they? Have they applied what they're asking 282 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: you to do? You know, It's like when I used 283 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: to teach group fitness classes. I made sure that I 284 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: did enough of that class with the class, not about 285 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: me with the class, but you get the instructors who 286 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: kill their in their class because they have no idea 287 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: what it feels like to do what they're asking the 288 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: class to do. So I'm going to talk about the experiences. 289 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about the education. I'm gonna talk about 290 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: the passion I have for this industry and put it 291 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: all together so that you can find your best way 292 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: and you don't have to like the messaging, but I 293 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: want you to benefit from it. I want you to 294 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: benefit from it because that is my goal. That is 295 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: why I have taken the path I have. You know, 296 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I talked about one of my first examples of turning 297 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: something down way back when my first opportunity to be 298 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: on a big TV show in New York about fitness. 299 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: What they asked me to talk about was garbage, wasn't 300 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: proper exercise science. It was some fly by night fitness 301 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: guru's book. And I said, well, I'll talk about this 302 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: and I broke it down to exercise and I said no, 303 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: So I gave up that first opportunity and that was 304 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: the start. And I bring that up why so that 305 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: you know if I talk about a product or exercise routine, whatever, 306 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: that there's credibility and there's believability, because that is what's 307 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: really lacking in this industry. And you suffer. Not the 308 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: person who's pushing that. They benefit financially while you waste 309 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: valuable time and money. My goal, it's for you to 310 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: live your best life. Don't have to like me, but 311 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 1: I want you to believe me, and I want you 312 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: to follow the advice, find what works for you, because 313 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I promise you it will help you have your best life. 314 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland this is fitness Disrupted Believe in 315 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Yourself Fitness Disrupted is a production of I heart Radio. 316 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the i 317 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 318 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.