1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: We're about to present to you an interview I conducted 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: with Peter Berg last Thursday after the morning show, when 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: we finished at eleven am. Now, I want to make 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: one note that's important. You may be frustrated, as I was, 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: at points throughout the interview that Peter Berg, the director 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: of Deepwater Horizon, his voice is going to trail off 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and it's going to sound kind of sketchy, kind of 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: odd to understand digitized. At certain points, we stopped the 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: interview in the middle and restarted it, and he drove 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: up the way he lives. He splits his time between 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: New York and LA and he was in LA and 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: he was driving to a meeting when we did the interview, 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: and he was in a canyon, and he said, it 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: was the only time that we could make the timing work. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: And he said, look, I'm doing the best I can. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm not moving around, but I understand you're getting me 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: fading in and out, so you're going to hear that throughout. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: I apologize in advance. We're going to try and post 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: production to make this as loud as it can be 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: in the segments where it goes down, but there was 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: nothing we could do, and I didn't want to reschedule 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: the interview because I wanted to get this out there. 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: So my apologies in advance. This is not as good 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: a this is not as good of audio quality as 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I would like to present this. If you've not seen 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Deep Water Horizon, hopefully this interview will peak your interest 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: and some of these things will stick in your mind 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: as you watch the film and after the fact, maybe 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: these were some of the questions you would have had 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: naturally if you have seen it, then I guess this 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: interview will will make a lot more sense. But make 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: sure you see it, because I think it's it's as 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: interesting a movie as I've seen. It's storytelling. As I've 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: often said, songs and movies and radio talk shows and 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: TV shows and sales presentations and sermons, they're all storytelling. 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: And I can appreciate whatever the medium, I can appreciate 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: a good storyteller. And for my money, Peter Berg, who 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: made Loan Survivor, who's made other films, who's told other 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: stories across different platforms, across different fact patterns and walks 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: of life, I think he's as good a storyteller as 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: there is in America today. He just happens to have 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: chosen films as his palette for telling a story. So 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: our interview from last week with Peter Berg, and if 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: someone's not listening that you would like to hear this interview. 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: It is posted on our website at michael berry dot com. 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: That's Michael berry dot com. Go to the podcast for 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: today for this hour and you'll find it and you 48 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: can share it with anyone else, and I hope you will. 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: Our interview with Peter Berg. Peter, I gotta tell you, 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: first of all, it's the best movie I've seen in 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a long time, and I was blown away how you 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I am a fan of storytelling and a movie is 53 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: just storytelling. My wife and I for two hours after 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: the movie last night, we went through how you managed 55 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: to take a story of an industrial blowout, you know, oilfield, 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: offshore oil field blowout and make it some of the 57 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: most compelling storytelling I've ever seen. 58 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Wow, thank you and thank your wife for going and see. 59 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: It was a packed house and there was a when 61 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the movie was over, everyone was stunned, and then someone 62 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: started applauding, and everyone applauded because you told a story. 63 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it doesn't have a good ending, but 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: you told a story that needed to be told. 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think what interested in me in 66 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: the in the story of the Deep Watter Horizon event 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: was it started with a sixty minutes piece I saw 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: that focused on Mike Williams, who's the character that Wahlbert 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: plays in the film, and the story was told from 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: his perspective, and he was just a non electronics technician. 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: I saw a low ranking guy on the rim who 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 2: told the story that was so different than the story 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: that we've been being told, especially in the media, which 74 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: was a story about environmental disaster and oil spill and 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: and you know that obviously was it was a horrible thing. 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: But Mike Williams told this human story, and he told 77 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: a kind of almost a scientific thriller in many ways 78 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: about how complex the regular well who it is, and 79 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: how dangers it is to you know, find this oil 80 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: and drill down to it and then once you find it, 81 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: how I heard it is to stabilize it. And I 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: also thought it was a fascinating story that had nothing 83 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: to do with it oil spill. And then when I 84 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: found out that he died and and hit those men 85 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: had died actually trying to prevent a spell. And at 86 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: these were eleven men who had nothing to do with 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: that that still, and they could have gotten off the 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: lad that could have gotten in the lifebooks, but they 89 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: chose to stay in their workstations and try to fight it, 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: and that cost them their lives. Well, when I heard that, 91 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: you know, it started feeling like I was getting into 92 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: my friend Marcus Fakell territory. And that's the kind of 93 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: story I like to tell. 94 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: Peter, let's start with you said that you kind of 95 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: gave a little bit of what interested you about this story. 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: But you know, you have a new movie, Patriots Day, 97 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: that will open at the next spring, and I want 98 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: to talk about that later, but let's talk about what 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: about this story attracted your attention. 100 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, for me, there's there's never one thing. 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: And I've I've been fortunate to make movies for a 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: while now, and I'm keenly aware of how much work 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: and how little glamour there actually is in the actual 104 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: process of making films. So you need you need many 105 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: reason instat inspired to make a film. And I think 106 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: that the movie worked for me and the story interested me. 107 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: A is just a scientific thriller. I was very interested 108 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: in the silence of it all and how complex, uh, 109 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: this kind of work is. How smart the men and 110 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: women on that rig, where these are all engineers, most 111 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: of them. I thought that was very interesting just how 112 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: they actually do it. It felt like almost like a 113 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: space program. I was interested in the relationship between the 114 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: BP executives and the and the men that actually worked 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: on the rig. And I was interested in the necessarily 116 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: vilifying BP, although I do think they made some big mistakes, 117 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: but I think it was pretty interesting to see how 118 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: that political dynamic work when you've got these DP executives 119 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: who've got to bring the oil in on time and 120 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: on budget, and you've got a bunch of guys trying 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: to trying to make them happy. And in the case 122 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: of the BP, they were you know, forty odd days 123 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: over scheduled, which was about eighty million over budget. So 124 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: everyone was feeling this pressure, which which I think is understateable. 125 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: You know, any obviously company for profit that's behind schedule. 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: You know, if I'm behind schedule my job, I feel 127 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: the pressure. Well, this was an interesting look at how money, 128 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, can put pressure on people, and in the 129 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 2: case of this oil rate. That's real dangerous pressure because 130 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: the workers are doing Because I thought that was interesting, 131 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: But I think really what sold it for me was 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: when I met with these families of the guys who 133 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: were killed. I met with their parents and their widows 134 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: and some of their children, and you know, much like 135 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: loans of ival, it was deeply emotional for me to 136 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: meet these families and hear these stories. But the one 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: thing that really got me was when I realized that 138 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: these families were suffering the grief of having lost a 139 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: loved one, but they were also sufferings that added grief 140 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: of having people when they found out that, oh, you know, 141 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: their husband died. When they found out when they worked 142 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: in that oil way, the attitude was almost, well, yeah, 143 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: well they caused the oil spill, so DIDN'TY kind of 144 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: deserve it? Didn't get what they deserved, And I, uh, 145 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: you know, when I realized that there was this shame 146 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: or embarrassment that these families were experiencing when in reality 147 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: their loved ones. They did it, but DIDN'TY could just 148 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: stop that? Well, they really were heroes. That's what kind 149 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: of got me locked in. I wanted to make the 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: fell and that was probab the bites. 151 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: We will continue our conversation with Peter Berg of Deepwater Horizon, 152 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: the director of that movie. Now Michael Berry's show. Peter 153 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: Burg is our guest. He is the director of deep 154 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: Water Horizon and a fantastic storyteller, and I'm curious to 155 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: hear the story behind the story of the making of 156 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: this movie. Let's talk about casting. It's very interesting cast. 157 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: You keep putting Marky Mark in movie. You got him 158 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: coming up in Patriots Date. What is what is the 159 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: thing with Mark Wahlberg? 160 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think you know the stories that 161 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: I like to tell you that you know, obviously kind 162 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: of American themed, their working class theme. These these are 163 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: the stories that interest me. Monk has that you know, 164 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: he came up from the streets of Dorchester. He you know, 165 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: very easily could be in prison right now or dead. 166 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: He turned his life around remarkable, but has maintained his 167 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: connection to that community where he came from, his family, 168 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: of his his church. He's just a guy that's you know, 169 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: he's very successful, but he's not drifted from that kind 170 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: of core character that he started out as and that 171 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: that makes him very right for the kind of movies 172 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: I do and then we just get along. You know, 173 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: we were like brothers and we have very similar taste 174 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: in similar sensors as humor, and uh, we just we 175 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: just get along really well. So it's there's a trust 176 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: level there. And it's been fun to make these three 177 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 2: movies and doing this journey with me. 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Uh, In doing Peter Berg as our guest, he's the 179 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: director of Deepwater Horizon. In doing my research on Mark Wahlberg, 180 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: this is I guess the sixth film where he's played 181 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: a real life character and almost always in everyman. I mean, 182 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Marcus Detrell is not an every man, but he was 183 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: at that time, and it seems like that's something that's 184 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: important to him. I read that he stayed in character 185 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: throughout the shoot when he was on the rig. It 186 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: sounds to me and I think the portrayal proves that 187 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: it was important for him to be who Mike Williams was, 188 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: which was not a superstar, just just a smart guy 189 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: doing his job that wanted to go home to his 190 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: wife and daughter. 191 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was very important to Mark to 192 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: capture that, you know, March marks the uh, the challenge 193 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: of having to play two pretty intense guys. Now now 194 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,239 Speaker 2: Marcus Attrel obviously UH is next level, but Mike Williams 195 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: uh is not to be underestimated. A very very bright 196 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: man from UH from East Texas, uh uh, you know, 197 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: very very smart and west just innate intelligence and very 198 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: very determined to make sure that not only did Walburg 199 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: play him correctly, but that we got that we got 200 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: it right, just like Marcus Ottrel was determined to make 201 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: sure we got it right. You know, this culture of 202 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: my solil doing was very proud and may they have 203 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: a specific place of doing things. And then launceavlvor Walburg 204 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: has a trail pretty much two foot away from him 205 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: through ninety the summing and on deep leave, Walbot and 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: Mike Williams out two feet away from him, just kind 207 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: of making sure father, you know. And and but it's great. 208 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: It's a great resource to have that, but it also 209 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: puts pressure on on someone. And I think it did 210 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: make Wallberg stand sort of made him focus, not not 211 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: that he wouldn't normally focus hard, but maybe just focus 212 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: a little bit harder having those two Texas boys standing. 213 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that would be pressure day right, right. 214 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: I would not want that. 215 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Peterberg is the director of Deep Water Horizon. Let's talk 216 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: about your other casting. I don't know if it was 217 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: your choice or not, but John Malkovich is sort of 218 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: the bad guy, the dream and the BP guy that 219 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: that's pushing and really doesn't seem to understand the risk 220 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: in your portrayal of what could go wrong. And then 221 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: sort of the shame is on him because he's the 222 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: one that was more worried about a deadline. And you know, 223 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure some people won't appreciate that portrayal, But why 224 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: John Malkovich there? 225 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: Well, he's just you know, I was fortunate to have 226 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: John Nkovich and Kurt Russell, who I mean, these guys 227 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: are just legitimate pros, you know, and they're very very 228 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: good actors, and they know what they're doing. And sometimes 229 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: I think, especially the living in today with uh social 230 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: media and instinct fame and all kinds of young actors 231 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: coming up and becoming very popular, but they really haven't 232 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: earned it, you know, they haven't put the time in 233 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: and the technical aspects and the craft isn't what we've developed. 234 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: You look at guys like Malkovitch and Kurt Russell, these 235 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 2: guys have done it over and over and over and 236 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: they're the ship and they remind you, or reminded me of, 237 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: you know what what it really means to be a 238 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: heavyweight actor, and these guys bring it. And so for 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: me they were my first places, and that not to 240 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: just kind of wonderful energy together and the conflict and 241 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: you know, mark of its is able to bring, you know, 242 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: a somewhat of an unsympathetic quality to that character that's felt. 243 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: In the case of Don Bedreen just sort of understood 244 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: where he was coming from and he was getting squeezed, 245 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: he needed to move on. There were hemorrhas and money, 246 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: and that I think Alcams puts Actually, as much as 247 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: you may not like that character, he sort of understood 248 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: and could empathize with where he was coming from. And 249 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: that's you know that that just makes it more dimensional. 250 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: He's not just a bad guy. Right. 251 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, realistically, let's let's talk about running any kind 252 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: of business. You got to keep projects on budget, you 253 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: have to push people beyond their comfort zone, you have 254 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: to squeeze pennies. That's that's what shareholders expected. There is 255 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: that constant balance, and I think that's you always want 256 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: to create this theatrical moment of the real dilemma of 257 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: the hamlet moment, and I thought you did a great 258 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: job with that. There was a guy I don't know 259 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: the actor's name. He was wearing a yellow shirt throughout, 260 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: but he was in Friday Night Lights and I thought 261 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: he was fantastic, white hair. 262 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: What's his name? He's buddy from from UH on Saturday 263 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: Night Lights. His name is Brad Leland. 264 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: He is fantastic. 265 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: Yep, he's great. Another Texas boys from Austin. 266 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the h You mentioned Kurt Russell, but I wanted 267 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: to dig a little deeper because everybody has known that 268 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: guy on the work site that is really well respected 269 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and wise in Urban Cowboy. He was the guy who 270 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: played John Travolta's kind of uncle or his uncle figure, 271 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: and he dies on on the platform. I thought Kurt 272 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: Kurt Russell really rose to that role. How did you 273 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: choose him for that? 274 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, he's I mean, if that character, he's an iconic 275 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: boss who is hard, not necessarily perfect, but leads, leads 276 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: by example, really does have the respect of UH and 277 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: men and women that work for him, and I think 278 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: mainly because they know he's got UH their interests in mind, 279 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: as much as the corporate interests and the money and 280 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: if you meet to you know Church, another one like 281 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: Wahlberg who you know, he's just leads a very full 282 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: and rich life. You know, he's got a ranch in Colorado, 283 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: lives claims, he he ranches, he makes his own line. 284 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: He is just a you know, a full, full and 285 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: rich human being that I think is able to naturally 286 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: tap into the kind of grit and soul and character. 287 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: That's someone that you know, is running an oil rig 288 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: would need to have to be able to you know, 289 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: control that environment like any good coach or military leader 290 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: that that can be the boss, but can also do 291 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: that in a way that you know, if you generate 292 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: forgitimout respects from the men and women that work for them. 293 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: More of our conversation with Peter Berg, the director of 294 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: Deepwater Horizon coming up again. My apologies for the audio quality. 295 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: He was pulled over to the side of a road 296 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: in the middle of a canyon outside of la and 297 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: we're aware that the audio cuts in and out. We 298 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: did the best we could do, but I know at 299 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: times it's a little frustrating. It was frustrating for me, 300 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: but we're just working with what we have, so stay 301 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: tuned for more of our interview with Peter Berg, director 302 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: of Deepwater Horizon, and our interview is posted at our 303 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: website Michael Berry dot. 304 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: Com, Southern Pride, Southern Pride, The Michael Berry Show. 305 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Peter Berg is our guest. The movie is Deepwater Horizon. 306 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the technical aspects. To start. I read 307 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: that you spend one hundred and fifty six million dollars 308 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: on this movie, one hundred and ten million of it 309 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: in Louisiana, which I'm sure they love. Let me ask you, uh, 310 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: I read that a rig was built for this actual movie. 311 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: How did that come about? 312 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's a coolnagen. VP wasn't jumping up 313 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: and down with enthusiasm over the fact that we're making 314 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: this film. And and you know, I understand that, like 315 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: as I said accent, we do more for BP in 316 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: terms of pr at least in selling how this happened, 317 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: in presenting a reasonable scenario, in terms of you know, 318 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: what we were talking about earlier. Just there they were 319 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: Baham schedule and they yeah, they made some bad choices, 320 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: but I think we understand a lot. It was clearly 321 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: never the intent of VP to you know, kill eleven people. 322 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: Or to blow out that got a little. It happened, 323 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: but that being so vpated, I want this movie being 324 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: made and the effective disruptors to us. While we were 325 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: trying to make the film in Louisiana, which is you know, 326 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: an environment and an area of our content that is, 327 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: you know, literally fueled by fuel and that economy is 328 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: fueled by fuel. And so they provided us to do 329 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: things like getting access to working deep deep water rigs. 330 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: Several times we tried to go to Mexico and couldn't 331 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: get it. We tried to use the deep water Horizon 332 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: sister ship of Rick called the Nautilus. We couldn't get it. 333 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: So finally we kind of looked at each other, let's 334 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: just build our own, you know, And that was that 335 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: was an ambitious goal. We had an incredible production designer, 336 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: a guy named Chris Eager. They said, I said he 337 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: could do it, very sweet talented young Englishman. He's like, yeah, 338 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: I could do it good, and we're like, okay, buddy, 339 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: let's do it. And let's say I know, we had 340 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: three hundred welders and I don't know how many hundreds 341 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: of thousands of tons of steel in an abandoned six 342 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: flags amusement park and outside of New Orleans, and we 343 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: built it and it was an incredible asset for musicalemaker. 344 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you've ever been to Marti Gras, 345 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: but year round they're building the most amazing sets by 346 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: way of floats that are sets that move that I 347 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: think those guys could build just about anything. Peter Berg 348 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: is our guest. He's the director of deep Water Horizon. 349 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that struck me about this film 350 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: and my wife, earlier in her legal career, did a 351 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of work for offshore platforms and for pipeline companies 352 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: and spent a lot of time out on the platforms, 353 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: and she was blown away by how you educated the 354 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: viewer as they went along, very naturally in a way 355 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: that you were teaching us about the offshore platform What 356 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of technical technical advice were you getting as to 357 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: not just blowout preventers, but what these gadgets meant because 358 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: it's a higher technical enterprise. 359 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: Yes it is. I mean that was probably the biggest 360 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: challenge of the film was we went to I and 361 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: all the key members of my crew went to what 362 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: we end up just calling Boil School, where we brought in, uh, 363 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, probably twenty twenty five different experts, people who've 364 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: worked on rigs from the bottom from the sub seed 365 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: to the very top of the derek. So whether it 366 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: was negative and pressure test tests that were done in 367 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: the drill shack, or it was so the rod guys 368 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: that didn't maintain the DP the blowout preventter. We we learned. 369 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: We learned enough to realize that we were never going 370 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: to understand really in that in one or two months 371 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: the complexities of what went on. So I finally had 372 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's very very scientific, and you know, these, 373 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: like I said, for these are engineers and physicists and 374 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: very very bright men and women who were doing some 375 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: very complex science out there. So basically, after two months, 376 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: I looked at these guys, I said, all right, you 377 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: got I'm never going to get this at this level. 378 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: You know, they were talking to me as if I 379 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: was one of their own. I said, you got to 380 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: break this down for me, Give it to me like 381 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: I'm a twelve year old. So I've literally explained it 382 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: to me like I'm a twelve year old. And when 383 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: they did that, I was able to get a base 384 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: understanding of it, and then I was able to kind 385 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: of figure out, well, Okay, if a twelve year old 386 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: levels where I'm comfortable, you know, how am I going 387 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: to make the audience in a way that they don't 388 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: just coot out because the sans case so dense. They 389 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: also don't sort of instinctively feel like we're dumbing it 390 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: down to the point where they're insulted. And we spent 391 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: a lot of time and you know, came up with 392 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: different tactics for getting the information out to the audience. 393 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: Figure they'll understand maybe seventy percent of it, but that 394 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: what they don't understand, they'll at least get the idea 395 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: of what's being said. You might not know exactly what 396 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: Kurt Russell and John malcomit you're arguing about. You might 397 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: not understand the deep nuances of it, but you will 398 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: understand that the consequences are very serious. I think one 399 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: of them's right and one of them is wrong, and 400 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: which everyone's wrong, There's going to be a real problem, 401 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: and I thought that was important. 402 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: Peter Berg is our guest. He's the director of Deepwater 403 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: Horizon in theaters now, critics have applauded you and commended 404 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: you for not to use their term talking down to 405 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: the audience, particularly when the discussions are about cement bonding 406 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: and that and how that played into all this and 407 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: how blowout preventters work. Was that a concern of yours 408 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: that if you if you were technical enough to explain it, 409 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: that you would no pun intended bore people. 410 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: Yes, for some that's that was that was the challenge. 411 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: And I want to talk down to people, you know, 412 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe analogy at one point did like 413 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: if you could imagine, God forbid, you had a child 414 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: that was very sick, and you had two doctors offering 415 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: completely different opinions over the best course of treatment, and 416 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: they were standing over you and your child, and they 417 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: were debating it, and they were actually arguing about it. 418 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: You might not understand exactly what they were saying, but 419 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: you would certainly feel the emotion and understand that, you know, 420 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: this is serious stuff. And I felt that that was, 421 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, somewhat accurate for how we should approach handling 422 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: the science and the language of our movie. I didn't 423 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: want to dumb it down. I didn't want to talk 424 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: down to the audience, but I did want them to 425 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: understand that the stakes were very high and that you 426 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: know that to get a basic understanding of how some 427 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: of this equipment worked. You might not understand what a 428 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: kill line test is exactly, but you do understand that 429 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: if that test usn't come to write, there might be 430 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: a problem. 431 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: More of our conversation with Peter Berg, the director of 432 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: Deepwater Horizon. Coming up again. My apologies for the audio quality. 433 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: He was pulled over to the side of a road 434 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of a canyon outside of LA and 435 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: we're aware that the audio cuts in and out. We 436 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: did the best we could do, but I know at 437 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: times it's a little frustrating. It was frustrating for me, 438 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: but we're just working with what we have, So stay 439 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: tuned for more of our interview with Peter Berg, director 440 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: of Deepwater Horizon, and our interview is posted at our website, 441 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: Michael berry dot com The Michael Berry Show. Peter Berg 442 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: is our guest. He is the director of Deepwater Horizon 443 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: and a fantastic storyteller, and I'm curious to hear the 444 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: story behind the story of the making of this movie. 445 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: One of your challenges in telling this story was making 446 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: us care who these people are because we watched people 447 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: die on TV and in movies every day. So you 448 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: had to have the love interest, you had to have 449 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: the family man Mike Williams, who Mark Wahlberg, who has 450 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: to come home to Kate Hudson and his daughter, and 451 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: you had to create that. How did you choose who 452 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: that character was that we were most going to identify with? 453 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that that just came from reality. I 454 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: saw the sixty minutes piece on Mike Williams, which you 455 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: can pull up online. It's an incredible interview Williams. It 456 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: was very clear about, you know, he was going to 457 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: get off that rig and live. He was he was 458 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: gonna do two things. He was going to do everything 459 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: he could to help his you know, workers, the men 460 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: and women that he worked with, to make sure he 461 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: did everything he could to get everyone off alive. And 462 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: that's just who he was as a man. But the 463 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: other thing, and he tears up on sixteen minutes talking 464 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: about this, he was not going to die that night. 465 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: He was going to get home to his daughter and 466 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: his wife, and and that was not negotiable for him. 467 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: And it was the way he expressed it was just 468 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: so simple and pure and undeniably emotional. I mean, like 469 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: you'd have to, you know, to not to not get 470 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: emotional watching him just very simply star in the camera 471 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: and say I was not going to die that night. 472 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: I was going to see my daughter, my wife. It 473 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: was not going to be my time. That that kind 474 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: of you know created you know, a as a filmmaker, storyteller, 475 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: you're you're hungry for something, you know that clear uhh. 476 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: That's that simple and directing and emotional. And Williams provided 477 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: it for us. And we just you know, laid that 478 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: right into the movie and let it play and and 479 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: and we didn't have to do much to that. 480 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: I guess. Her name is Gina Rodriguez who played Yeah, 481 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: I thought she. I thought she for so of a 482 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: bit character in all of this. I thought she added 483 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of texture to all of that. 484 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was. Gina plays a young lady named 485 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: Andrea Flitis who was twenty three years old and had 486 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: a very serious and you know, heavy responsibility job that 487 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: she had to run the direct positioning, which basically mean 488 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: she had to steer the reggae make sure it maintained 489 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: it the position directly over the pipe. And the only 490 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: things that got me was that, you know, this was 491 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: one of the only girls on the rig you know, 492 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: she was young, she had a tremendous amount of responsibility, 493 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: and and she she performed, I think very admirably. And 494 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: to think about, you know, someone that young in a 495 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: very male dominated industry, particularly kind of a big ego 496 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: male industry, that this girl was able to you know, 497 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: perform and hold her own and and as that was thought, 498 00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: she was very interesting. 499 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Peter Burg is the director. Peter Berg is the director 500 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: of Deepwater Horizon. 501 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: Man, I've got I've got to go, though, I could 502 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: make one more because they're out there, they're calling for me. Now. 503 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: I made it. Nothing. 504 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Do your thing? 505 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 506 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: One last question, Trice Adkins, how did you choose to 507 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: cast him? 508 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: Uh? So I got a call from TRACE's manager saying 509 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: that Trace was knew some people on the rig and 510 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: was very connected emotionally to the men that were killed, 511 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: and he had actually written a song and he wanted 512 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: to do anything he could to be involved. I wasn't 513 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: aware of I knew his name, but I didn't really 514 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: know him. I didn't notize how big he is, was giant. 515 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: He I got on the phone, and you know, he 516 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: has that great voice, and I said, hey, what's you 517 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: know going on? And he said, I'm not going to 518 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: try to imitate him because I can't, but really felt 519 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: a connection to those men that were killed and that 520 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: kid tried to keep their memory alive and if there's anything, 521 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, he could do, and I so, why don't 522 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: you come down? And I had this idea of a 523 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: character for him, and true guy who when Mike Williams 524 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: finally got back to this hotel, he was sort of 525 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: physically attacked by a very emotional father trying to find 526 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: out whether his son's alive. I thought Trace could play 527 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: that role. He showed up in Texas. I mean, he's 528 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: got to be six' ten and Now mark is not 529 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: not the tallest guy in the, world BUT i had 530 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: to Have trace kind of beating up On. Mark And 531 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: tray's such a nice. Guy he didn't want to get 532 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: too physical With. Mark and Finally mark AND i were 533 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: both On trace to you, know get, physical and when he, 534 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: did it was like terrified wallburn Because, traces, like you, 535 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: know without much, effort pretty much Launch mark. 536 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: Across oh he, did and you can tell that's. Real 537 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: he slams him into that, wall and even me as the, 538 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: VIEWER i COULD i could tell that was. REAL i 539 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: know you've got to, Go. Peter thanks for being our. 540 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: Guest great. MOVIE i look forward to Seeing Patriot's. 541 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: Day And i'll have to see you and soon and 542 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: give your wife my. Best thank you very. 543 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: Much you got, It, peter take care there you have. 544 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: IT i commend the movie most. Highly it Is Deep Water. 545 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Horizon it is in theaters. Now prepared yourself because it 546 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: is an action film in the sense that there is 547 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: a lot of, action but there it. Is it takes 548 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: an emotional. Toll AND i don't know IF i feel 549 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: that way because growing up In, orange living In, houston 550 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: knowing so many people who work on these, platforms knowing 551 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: so many people that are in the industry part of the. 552 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: INDUSTRY i don't, know or if it was simply compelling for. 553 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: Everyone i'd be interested to hear your, perspective particularly for 554 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: those of you who are not from The Gulf coast 555 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: and for whom this industry is not one of your native. 556 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: Industries but it. Is it's as a. Craft Peter berg 557 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: is good at his. Craft he tells an interesting, story 558 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: and this story is a compelling story on so many. 559 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: Levels you. 560 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: Have bp. 561 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: The company at the, top who's funding this whole. Operation 562 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: you've got transition the guys who they've hired to do their. 563 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Job and, Look i'm not going to DEFEND bp under any. 564 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: CIRCUMSTANCES i think they've borne their responsibility and written their 565 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: checks for the mistakes they. Made but every, company even 566 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: our radio, program you have a lot of pressures that 567 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: are that you put on yourself and that your investors 568 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: put on you day in and day. Out and even 569 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: when lives are not at, stake we have pressures on 570 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: our radio show of things we have to do and 571 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: things we have to, accomplish and those sorts of, things 572 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: and so you really struggle with the dilemma of staying on. 573 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: Budget this particular project was forty three days, over was 574 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: forty three days beyond, deadline and millions and millions of dollars. 575 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Beyond and companies have to make, budget they have to set, 576 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: goals and they have to achieve. Profitability and that's not 577 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: an awful, thing that's not a horrible, thing it's not 578 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: something to be ashamed. Of but you also have to. 579 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Calculate as part of all, that you have to assess 580 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: risk and you have to make good decisions in assessing 581 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: risks and assessing the likelihood of what would otherwise be 582 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: called an. Accident you have to assess risk and mitigate 583 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: those risks within the calculations of, profitability and you're going 584 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: to see all of that play out in a very human. 585 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: Way