Speaker 1: The volume. What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the Draymond
Speaker 1: Green Show with my brother d D the Legend Bro.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Game one. You always
Speaker 2: want to steal that first one. Y'all played good playoff
Speaker 2: veteran basketball. But y'all did playing Spurts. There was a
Speaker 2: lull right of dependency where it's like everybody gotta stay aggressive, right,
Speaker 2: everybody gotta stay aggressive. But great game, man, great defense.
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all defense was on full display. When you
Speaker 2: talk about holding, you know, I think it was only
Speaker 2: a couple people that had double figures on their team.
Speaker 2: Wasn't Van Fleek and Sagoon man. I was just that
Speaker 2: was a great playoff basketball game. I just want to
Speaker 2: see more more aggression on the offensive end, especially from
Speaker 2: you for sure, you know, especially from you, because like
Speaker 2: they're throwing you the rock and then it's like all right,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's steph and then in a wind up in podhands,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I want to see
Speaker 2: Moses Moody. He came in some big clutch.
Speaker 1: He did shout out to young Mo Money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta remember y'all play everybody on the on
Speaker 2: the floor is a playmaker when it's hot like that
Speaker 2: when they double teaming. But overall, great game. Man, I
Speaker 2: appreciated my dog. By the way, How are you feeling
Speaker 2: at the game?
Speaker 1: One? I feel great, man. You know, after the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you doing everything recovery. I was doing recovery stuff and
Speaker 1: watching a film til three thirty in the morning, and
Speaker 1: so I feel incredible. I feel absolutely incredible. And then
Speaker 1: I got up this morning, got another treatment session in,
Speaker 1: got you know, some some core work and stuff in
Speaker 1: in the weight room. So body feel amazing. Man. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a very physical game, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's extremely physical. But what I will say is I
Speaker 1: thought our defense was on point. We gave up eighty
Speaker 1: five points. Where that's what fourteen turnovers, I think fourteen
Speaker 1: turnovers and twenty two offensive rebounds and we gave up
Speaker 1: eighty five points. You know, so you gotta feel really
Speaker 1: great about the defense because this is a great offensive
Speaker 1: rebounded team like that is that one of their specialties,
Speaker 1: and so I think, you know, it makes me think
Speaker 1: back to like Steph Clay Katie them years where like
Speaker 1: we were the best three point shooting team and teams
Speaker 1: would come into the game and be like, Yo, we're
Speaker 1: going to completely take the three away from them, and
Speaker 1: we would still end up getting three. That's them with
Speaker 1: offense rebound. We're not going to stop them from getting
Speaker 1: the offensive rebounds like it's like, But what we do
Speaker 1: have to do is there were maybe seven of them,
Speaker 1: eight of them that we get our hands on that
Speaker 1: you got to have. You know what I'm saying, those
Speaker 1: are the ones. So all of a sudden, twenty two
Speaker 1: ain't twenty two and it is fourteen. That's a totally
Speaker 1: different situation, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we can clean up, you know that stuff like that,
Speaker 1: Some of the turnovers we had, we can still clean up.
Speaker 1: But holding that team to eighty five points, I don't
Speaker 1: think we had a great offense to night, you know,
Speaker 1: So holding that team eighty five points I think was
Speaker 1: a big deal. I think that's something we can build
Speaker 1: up on in this series for sure.
Speaker 2: And a team that offensive rebound like that, I think
Speaker 2: a bit A big counter to.
Speaker 1: That is you get easy layups.
Speaker 2: So being able to fast break get out, like you said,
Speaker 2: if you can track some of those rebounds, long rebounds
Speaker 2: get out on the break and the way your defense
Speaker 2: has been stad fast, it's gonna result. And I mean
Speaker 2: that's how you get the league, right, that's how you
Speaker 2: get to twenty. And I think when they start cutting
Speaker 2: away was offensive rebounds right, offensive rebounds a three, a ten,
Speaker 2: offensive rebound another three, a tip and you know in
Speaker 2: the playoffs it's just hard to overcome a lot of that.
Speaker 2: But this is that teams them all get to the basket,
Speaker 2: you know, shoot the ball, get on the glass, try
Speaker 2: and get tip ends, kickouts for wide open shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they lead at it for sure, so we
Speaker 1: got to be better at it. But also understanding that
Speaker 1: that is one of their strengths. They gonna do that well,
Speaker 1: man taking other stuff away, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that the hell hell of a game though, Bro,
Speaker 1: that was the hell of a game, Yes it was.
Speaker 1: It was gonna be a fun series. Before we get
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Speaker 2: time it is and you're one hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 2: playoff of parents and your one hundred playoff win with Steph.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that finish? It's crazy number
Speaker 1: wonder one hundred and fifty eight playoff games. I just
Speaker 1: want to give some perspective. At one hundred and sixty four,
Speaker 1: that will be officially two more seasons of NBA basketball
Speaker 1: that I've played in playoff games. So I'm gonna clap
Speaker 1: it up myself with out.
Speaker 2: I gotta give you that longevity is crazy longevity.
Speaker 1: I think I've missed, if I'm not mistaken, I think
Speaker 1: I've missed one playoff game and that was Game six,
Speaker 1: I mean Game five for the NBA Finals in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of that. You talk one hundred wins,
Speaker 1: one hundred wins with Steph like man, that's that just
Speaker 1: says so much. And you know, I'm never gonna leave
Speaker 1: this man out, but I think ninety nine of them
Speaker 1: is probably with Clay as well, you know, so sinsame
Speaker 1: man to win that many, that amount of games together.
Speaker 1: I had that type of longevity. But the finish to
Speaker 1: that game was crazy. Man. You know, obviously we had
Speaker 1: a league they you know, they battled back. I think
Speaker 1: they cut it all the way to two of them,
Speaker 1: not mistaken, and we just made plays down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Everybody made plays. I made plays on the defensive end.
Speaker 1: Jimmy made a couple of plays defensively. Jimmy made plays offensively.
Speaker 1: He came over some big offensive rebounds. Moses hit two
Speaker 1: big shots that fade away to put us up seven,
Speaker 1: and then he hit the three in the corner BP's
Speaker 1: drive picking up that file. He split the pair on
Speaker 1: the free throws, but that allowed us to get our
Speaker 1: dep Fitt set. Obviously we saw what the what the
Speaker 1: chef chef got cooking. So it was a huge game
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Man everybody who was in their main
Speaker 1: plays GP was when he was in their main place.
Speaker 1: We closed that game all crazy. That was. That was
Speaker 1: big time, big time closing. Yeah, Outland.
Speaker 2: The fact that you and Jenimy were in sync on defense.
Speaker 2: What is your assessment on your first real playoff Jimmy
Speaker 2: basketball game.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy because it feels like we've been
Speaker 1: playing playoff basketball for longer than one game, just because
Speaker 1: all these games been so meaningful. But what I will
Speaker 1: say is he had been saying like yo, I get
Speaker 1: it just way more aggressed in the playoffs, and he
Speaker 1: does the shots that he looks to take, that he's
Speaker 1: looking to get to. It's just a completely different person,
Speaker 1: you know, the focused level the film, watching the study
Speaker 1: and the preparation. I'm impressed with the whole thing. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's good having him out there on the
Speaker 1: floor because on the court, offensively, we obviously are seeing
Speaker 1: his greatness, but defensively we're able to play off of
Speaker 1: each other, you know, and we're able to switch matchups
Speaker 1: and different things like he can guard anybody like I
Speaker 1: never you know, he's strong as hell, so he can
Speaker 1: guard to defend. And now what I will say is,
Speaker 1: you know, I always thought Jimmy was smart. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was this smart. Yeah, he's highly intelligent.
Speaker 2: Anybody who get that many breakaway steals, right deflections, things
Speaker 2: like that, block shots. He does a little bit of
Speaker 2: everything else and it goes unrecognized facts.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was that smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he understands time space and disruption to the city.
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's where you and hell, you know,
Speaker 2: are Yin and Yang for the Warriors defense. Talk about
Speaker 2: your favorite defensive play from Game one.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite defensive play was it was towards
Speaker 1: the end of the game, like we had a I
Speaker 1: had a couple of favorite ones me to sing, going
Speaker 1: in the middle of the paint where he thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna throw the body and like standing him up.
Speaker 1: That was a fun play just because it's a battle
Speaker 1: way man like tough man. He's he's mobile the shot
Speaker 1: last night. He was a decent athlete like he and
Speaker 1: he understands the game, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: he's a tough, tough opponent. But then saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought that one right there just kind of sent
Speaker 1: the message at that point in the game. That was fun.
Speaker 1: And then also it's always fun watching Jimmy cum around
Speaker 1: the guy that they looking to get those steals, and
Speaker 1: that one he got towards the end where I just
Speaker 1: outleted it to him for the dunk to kind of
Speaker 1: put the icing on the cake. That wash that was
Speaker 1: a good one because you know, it just kind of
Speaker 1: took away any hope that they had, you know, to
Speaker 1: make any comeback at that point. So you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, it was the cherry on top. So that one,
Speaker 1: that one I enjoyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy talked about he loves organized chaos. How do
Speaker 2: you how do you all thrive and organized chaos?
Speaker 1: Offensively, we have always had this organized chaos because Steph
Speaker 1: creates organized chaos, Like you know, Steph does a lot
Speaker 1: of damage off the ball, and but it's just not
Speaker 1: like five guys or four guys running around and like
Speaker 1: all all of a sudden, he just pops open, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's organized chaos, Like it's
Speaker 1: chaotic and it's all over the place. But I think
Speaker 1: what Steve did when he first got here was he
Speaker 1: put rules in place. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: if this happen, you do this that happened, you make
Speaker 1: this read. And so it's organized, but it's chaotic because
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, he just gonna go that way
Speaker 1: every time, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's just
Speaker 1: not how our offense work. Like you may go this way,
Speaker 1: you may go that way, you may go up, you
Speaker 1: may go down. Like that's just the way our offense works.
Speaker 1: And so when he speaks of organized chaos, it's like
Speaker 1: it's chaotic. It's all over the place, for sure, But
Speaker 1: there is more organization than the naked I may see,
Speaker 1: but it's just not organized. Yeah, and so it's it's
Speaker 1: really yeah, it's it's a reader. It's read and react,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's kind of similar to like
Speaker 1: if you remember in football, when the West Coast offense
Speaker 1: got you know, was really big with rib it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: if the they do this, you run this. Rude, if
Speaker 1: they do that, you run that route. It's kind of
Speaker 1: more of that and so and then defensively, it's always
Speaker 1: been organized chaos because I'll take chances, I'll improvise, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll do and now you got two guys that will
Speaker 1: do that, you know, with myself and Jimmy. But the
Speaker 1: thing is is we don't just take risky chances, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We take like control ritis chances
Speaker 1: and so opportunities. Yeah, for sure, for sure, opportunistic chances. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So that's what kind of what jim is getting at it.
Speaker 1: I agree. I love organized chaos as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that organized chaos on offense. It's so unpredictable. You
Speaker 2: keep the defense off balance, and I think that is
Speaker 2: the beauty to to Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: Right, Sure, that's the beauty.
Speaker 2: To Steph Curry, talk about your favorite three pointer. I
Speaker 2: know you've seen them all, but which one game one
Speaker 2: stands out the most. No, just in game one, just
Speaker 2: in this, just in this last game one, because the
Speaker 2: running thirty footer was sick.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. And then the one he hit over.
Speaker 2: Thompson was even crazier. And he hit Fred with the
Speaker 2: boom bat that was crazy too.
Speaker 1: But I say the one over Jalen Green, the degree
Speaker 1: of difficulty, I thought that was Thompson. That was Jalen Green.
Speaker 1: The one on the right wing where he was falling
Speaker 1: out of bounce was over That was okay. The one
Speaker 1: where he came in from the back court was over Thompson,
Speaker 1: but the one where he was falling out of bounds
Speaker 1: was over John I thought that was Thompson. Guard. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got that off. The thing
Speaker 1: is not problem. He actually work on those shots. Like
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh man, he's just this great shooter
Speaker 1: and he get anything to go and like he work
Speaker 1: on those shots. So I would say that was my
Speaker 1: favorite one. Like falling out of bounce, that was crazy,
Speaker 1: But the one over Thompson was so timely and it
Speaker 1: was so deep. Yeah it was needed, Yeah, it was needed,
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Speaker 2: Those another man in the game between you and stack House.
Speaker 2: It looked like he was trying to calm you down.
Speaker 2: Can you share what went down in that moment? And
Speaker 2: then also talk about how significant stack House has been
Speaker 2: for you this season.
Speaker 1: Stack House has been huge for me just you know,
Speaker 1: the relatability, and then also like Stackhouse has a crazy presence.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying here, extreme alpha. You know,
Speaker 1: real alphas respect and appreciate other, real alphas. Yep, He's
Speaker 1: helped me so much because in a sense, he was
Speaker 1: a lot like me, and so he's helping me grow
Speaker 1: from a fifty year old standpoint. That's like, yo, I
Speaker 1: was young, like and you know, so there are times
Speaker 1: where like I would say something to somebody during the
Speaker 1: season and he'll come up to me like, Yo, that
Speaker 1: was great. Now what you go do is you go
Speaker 1: build them up and you do that. And I'm like, ah, so,
Speaker 1: just helping me become a better leader, helping me see
Speaker 1: things even more from a defensive perspective and offensive perspective,
Speaker 1: Like stack doesn't do much for our offense. He does
Speaker 1: a lot of defense, but he's a great offensive mind.
Speaker 1: Like I talk to him all the time. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because he'd be like, Dre score. Yeah, he'd be like
Speaker 1: he said, Dre, I love I love doing our defense
Speaker 1: like that shit. He's like, but I'm telling you like,
Speaker 1: I'm the leader on the offensive end too, Dre, and
Speaker 1: I saw I have offensive conversations with him. And the
Speaker 1: way he see the game, it's crazy, Like, I think
Speaker 1: Stackhouse is going to be an incredible head coach in
Speaker 1: the NBA, and he's going to have to respect the players.
Speaker 1: Number one, they know he's played the game. Stackhouse. He
Speaker 1: remind me, Dre, I scored seventeen thousand points in this game.
Speaker 2: Man Like, Yeah, for sure, stack House remind me of
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler a lot offensively, Yeah, a lot. Just can
Speaker 2: get to any spot. Stackhouse was difficult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been a huge shot and some of these
Speaker 1: people smart, they're gonna be trying to hire him, but
Speaker 1: I hold down pull him away from us because he great.
Speaker 1: Now away from us, he there. We lost Mike Brown.
Speaker 1: That was a huge loss for our coaching staff, but
Speaker 1: we eventually figured out we got Kenny accident. We lost
Speaker 1: Kenny the man about to be coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: and now stack House is great. Man. They can't pull
Speaker 1: another one away from us. God Clubber time different man.
Speaker 1: They can't pull a stack away from God. But they're smart.
Speaker 1: Due they got it school month, he got it. He's
Speaker 1: a great basketball man. You know what's crazy is like
Speaker 1: I've heard stories about stack House as a player, the
Speaker 1: way he recommend respect. It's interesting to watch, like the
Speaker 1: stories you heard from him as a player. Series you
Speaker 1: see like where he's serious as hell and where a
Speaker 1: player could get testing. You watch him back down and
Speaker 1: it's so important for coaches to like understand when the
Speaker 1: go and win the back down and like let the
Speaker 1: player feel like a player. And he got that thing. Man,
Speaker 1: he understand that thing to a tea. It's been a
Speaker 1: press to watch.
Speaker 2: I always talk about coaches all about presents, being able
Speaker 2: to motivate, being able to motivate the players to motivate themselves, yeah, facts,
Speaker 2: and then be a stabilizer and an information source so
Speaker 2: when they come to the sideline, you got something for
Speaker 2: them that's going to make them better or help them
Speaker 2: win the game. And when you got that knowledge, especially
Speaker 2: as an offensive weapon that he was, and to be
Speaker 2: able to go through and be on the Warriors as
Speaker 2: a defensive coach, I think sky's the limit. But it's
Speaker 2: good to see more former players, especially from my era,
Speaker 2: getting opportunities like this, even Bibby taking a head coach
Speaker 2: job at Sex State getting back into the game because
Speaker 2: we are I feel our culture and our era is
Speaker 2: more relatable and have more respect you for this era
Speaker 2: of basketball because we're not too far off. We could
Speaker 2: have been the VET, or may have been a VET
Speaker 2: a while ago. So having former players around that can
Speaker 2: serve as like you know, big brother mentor, it raises
Speaker 2: the bar for your basketball intelligence. Pod and Moody stepped
Speaker 2: up in the fourth quarter big time. Talk about Moody's
Speaker 2: defensive presence Pod swagger, especially when baden the Rockets and
Speaker 2: a review on that.
Speaker 1: Play, what do you see from the young fellas man?
Speaker 1: It was huge from him beating into that play because
Speaker 1: he knew, he knew where they took off, that our
Speaker 1: man wasn't there, and you know, so they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's challenging. I think I saw Royal Ivy hop up
Speaker 1: off the bench fast, like yo. We challenged it, and
Speaker 1: they challenged it, and it was a key one because
Speaker 1: they lost that when Steph hit that three, that they
Speaker 1: lost what they lost their challenge too. And when Steph
Speaker 1: hit that three that that call could have went either way,
Speaker 1: you know, so I thought that was huge. But Moses man,
Speaker 1: Moses has been He's taking that step defensively, like you know,
Speaker 1: we keep saying, like yo, he going, He's taking it
Speaker 1: and it's good to see him. The way he's playing
Speaker 1: on the ball, that changes our defense spent huge and
Speaker 1: then he obviously what he's done hitting the big shots
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of US it's also huge. But
Speaker 1: his defense, man, his defense has been incrudible and that's
Speaker 1: why he's earned the spot. Uh. And then BP BP
Speaker 1: just does a lot of things. Man. They take charges.
Speaker 1: He you know, he come up with great rotations, he
Speaker 1: get rebounds. You know, he hit big shots. You know.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Austin Reeves. It's funny they with
Speaker 1: the same shoe company, but it's like that. Everybody see
Speaker 1: the white boy and they think they're just going to
Speaker 1: take advantage of him, and he always just find a way. Man.
Speaker 1: It's super dope to watch. But both of them young
Speaker 1: fellas playing well. Man. The one thing I will say
Speaker 1: is I think this series is gonna turn it Jonathan
Speaker 1: Minga's favor and it's gonna be good to see him
Speaker 1: play well as well. But we need the young young
Speaker 1: guys to play well, and this series is big for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hearing Johnathan kamingia name. I'm watching the game.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see if Johnathan kaminga sighting, because I
Speaker 2: have this feeling that he's ready to be ready to
Speaker 2: break out and be the difference maker in this series.
Speaker 2: Talk about what's the work you have to do over
Speaker 2: the next couple of games, the next couple of days
Speaker 2: in order to get ready for game two, and what.
Speaker 1: Do you need to improve on from game one to
Speaker 1: game too. I think just improving on, you know, some
Speaker 1: of the turnovers we can cut out, some of the
Speaker 1: rebounds we can take away, you know, I think our
Speaker 1: defensively we can help each other a little better. But
Speaker 1: getting ready for game two, man, it's a lot more
Speaker 1: mental work to physical work these days. You know, Tomorrow
Speaker 1: I'll get on the court, the shots up, get moving.
Speaker 1: But doing the mental work, man, it is huge in
Speaker 1: these playoff series, you know. So that I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for us, you know, taking a day away,
Speaker 1: having those two days in between Worrow we'll have film,
Speaker 1: great film session. That'll be good for us. Let's go
Speaker 1: move around the league a little bit before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. Eight game ones over the weekend, start
Speaker 1: with the one of the most, I said, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest upsets. I think everybody was expecting the Lakers
Speaker 1: to roll in if game one at home. Lucas first
Speaker 1: playoff game had a huge game. I roll the Timberwalls
Speaker 1: and it was the exact opposite. The Timberwaves rolled the Lakers.
Speaker 1: They pretty much dominated the game the whole game. I
Speaker 1: thought this would be a good matchup for the Lakers
Speaker 1: and Timberwolves. You know, the Timberwaves match up with them
Speaker 1: well from a defensive perspective, and so I thought it'd
Speaker 1: be a good matchup. And it's going to show to
Speaker 1: be that. Uh, you know, you got Game two coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't foresee the Lakers dropping the first two at home,
Speaker 1: you know, so that'll be interesting to watch. But I
Speaker 1: thought of some good games. Julie is sixteen, five and five.
Speaker 1: Jaden McDaniel's got off twenty five nine from three, and
Speaker 1: Man had twenty two to nine and eight. Luca had
Speaker 1: thirty one thirty seven, but no one else scored over
Speaker 1: twenty points. Do you still have the Lakers winning series
Speaker 1: in five? I do, maybe six. I say the Lakers
Speaker 1: winning six.
Speaker 2: Now, Uh, that game was a bit disappointed watching on
Speaker 2: the Lakers side. No other player came with any playoff intensity.
Speaker 2: Usually the Lakers they played, they play defense. They probably
Speaker 2: themselves on defense steam in playing better defensively as a team.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the t Wolves. They were stained rolling
Speaker 2: them the whole game. I thought there was a lull
Speaker 2: in the game because they was beating the Lakers so
Speaker 2: bad that when they started letting the Lakers come back
Speaker 2: in the game. My whole thing with the Tea Wolves
Speaker 2: is you never want to let your foot off the gas,
Speaker 2: and I saw that. I saw that in the te Wolves.
Speaker 2: I saw they got complacent when they were up thirty.
Speaker 2: They wind up they wind up winning by twenty two
Speaker 2: and making some plays at the end. But my main
Speaker 2: concern is, obviously Luca has thirty seven points, but those
Speaker 2: other guys were starting, Oh it's the playoffs, let me
Speaker 2: get it. All you need to do is see a
Speaker 2: couple shots going, and you don't want to Austin Reeves
Speaker 2: to just be hitting casual threes and get into a
Speaker 2: playoff rhythm, right or any of the Lakers other players
Speaker 2: that haven't been playing well. So my thing is watching
Speaker 2: this series is I want to see how well the
Speaker 2: t will sustain that level and if they come out
Speaker 2: Game two with that intensity, that attention to detail, then
Speaker 2: it could be a different series.
Speaker 1: But I did see a drop.
Speaker 2: Off and their intensity, and I've seen them let off
Speaker 2: the gas, and that just that concerns me.
Speaker 1: But that's an interesting one because I think I can understand,
Speaker 1: like you definitely want to never, never want to take
Speaker 1: your foot off the gas. But what I will say
Speaker 1: is in this league today, where it may differ a
Speaker 1: little bit from when you played, from having a twenty
Speaker 1: point lead these days, it's like having a nine point
Speaker 1: lead back in the day because teams shoot and the
Speaker 1: speed of the game, like you can cover twenty points
Speaker 1: like that. So that's what I will say that I've
Speaker 1: noticed with a big difference on when I first came
Speaker 1: into the league and now it's just like comebacks in
Speaker 1: the league today, they're gonna happen, no question, because it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's different, man, Like the speed of the game,
Speaker 1: Like people cover points so fast in this league today.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing I will say is a little different.
Speaker 2: It was more so they uh the attitude, the inticity,
Speaker 2: They just kind of like, oh man, we're in LA,
Speaker 2: like we just we crack it. And then they was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: we are thirty. It was like, let him shoot that. No,
Speaker 2: don't let him shoot that. Yeah, don't let nobody. Don't
Speaker 2: let nobody get it rid of it because it's dangerous, right,
Speaker 2: it's very differ it becomes a dangerous slope. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the Knicks. My next tape, fourth quarter twenty one,
Speaker 2: ohd run Karl Anthony Towns defense. When this game for
Speaker 2: the Knicks, you pick the piss. Do you think the
Speaker 2: Pistons can bounce back?
Speaker 1: They had that game, man, I had a great pick
Speaker 1: man and they unfortunately they it just didn't seem like
Speaker 1: they were ready for what the playoffs bring. It's their
Speaker 1: first playoff game, so you got to cut them a
Speaker 1: little slack. But what they will learn is in the
Speaker 1: playoffs you cannot blow golden opportunities. And they blew a
Speaker 1: golden opportunity to go into a team that could struggle
Speaker 1: with confidence, a bit that they beat three times during
Speaker 1: the year, or if they won a serious season series
Speaker 1: against you, going to still game one and you're like, yo,
Speaker 1: the bad boys back on the block. What that could
Speaker 1: do for a series is huge. And what I saw,
Speaker 1: I think they need the playoffs their Stewart More. I
Speaker 1: also think they need to match or sar Thompson's minutes
Speaker 1: with Jalen Brunston. When sar Thompson was on them, he
Speaker 1: was having a tough time other guys on him. They
Speaker 1: just don't have the size and leticism to affect Jalen.
Speaker 1: They get the spots, and so I think they need
Speaker 1: to do that. That's a couple of things that I
Speaker 1: adjustments that I think the Pistons need to make. But
Speaker 1: they let it go on an opportunity to get away
Speaker 1: and saying that the goal is to go win one
Speaker 1: on the road, and so they still got an opportunity
Speaker 1: to change that. But Carl Anthony Towns was huge. I
Speaker 1: thought his defense was great, but the sophomorets defense was great.
Speaker 1: His attitude was great, and I'm taking credit for that,
Speaker 1: are you? Of course, Carl Anthony Towns has been a
Speaker 1: different person since ever since, ever since, I since a
Speaker 1: different person, and I'm taking bread for that.
Speaker 2: Yes, he has been a much different leader. He was patient,
Speaker 2: he let the game come to him. He showed another
Speaker 2: level of Hey, I've been here before, I know what
Speaker 2: playoff basketball is about. And I think that's how the
Speaker 2: Knicks caught Detroit on that twenty one oh run. Detroit
Speaker 2: was playing great intense regular season basketball. There were three quarters,
Speaker 2: three and a half quarters, ye right, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you get punched, You get pushed again,
Speaker 2: you get pussed again, and you turn it around and
Speaker 2: everybody else getting socked up on your team and you defeated.
Speaker 1: Who I think need to make the biggest adjustment on
Speaker 1: Detroit to the playoff intensiti is Kay Cunningham saw him
Speaker 1: driving to the paint a few times and he just
Speaker 1: went in there like he was just going to get it,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, okay, this is the playoffs now,
Speaker 1: like it's different. So I think he going to need
Speaker 1: to make the biggest adjustment to the playoff intensity. And
Speaker 1: obviously him being the top dog, he gotta make it right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think also you got to put him in
Speaker 2: playoff spots. Yes, he has to figure out his spots,
Speaker 2: similar to a Jimmy score. Like Kate Cunningham, you gotta
Speaker 2: put him on the elbow, you gotta put him on
Speaker 2: the win in ISO situations when you do need a bucket.
Speaker 2: And he got to know I got to run in
Speaker 2: here and try and dunk on somebody get a foul.
Speaker 2: He got to know how to play the clock because
Speaker 2: there's there's no excuse for a twenty one oh run
Speaker 2: in the playoffs when you got a superstar like that.
Speaker 2: So put him in a position where he may get
Speaker 2: double team he can get to the line.
Speaker 1: But it was really inexperience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in game one on behalf of Detroit, but shout
Speaker 2: out to my Knicks tape showing up and showing like
Speaker 2: the Knicks is ready in poise to make a run
Speaker 2: and they ready for playoff basketball. Moving on, Dame Lillard
Speaker 2: and ty Reese Halliburn had a back and forth at
Speaker 2: the end of the game.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? I did see it, And I
Speaker 1: wonder what Halliburn said because Dame what people don't understand
Speaker 1: about Davids, Dame got a temper. He just very controlled man.
Speaker 1: But it's saying that to get Dame to a point
Speaker 1: where Dame like and whoop your ass, Like you had
Speaker 1: to say something wild or be picking on somebody that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have been picking on because they don't really
Speaker 1: move like that. Like. So I did see it, and Santa,
Speaker 1: I am happy that Dave is coming back. So we
Speaker 1: gonna get to see it. So shout out to Dollar
Speaker 1: getting back fast, you know, and just you know, blood
Speaker 1: Cloth were talking health. So happy for Dollar, happy to
Speaker 1: see him back, and I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Moving right along, our next segment is where you at?
Speaker 2: First person, Kyle Kuzma twenty one minutes, zero stats, don'tnuts
Speaker 2: for stats, Kyle Kuzma, Where are you at?
Speaker 1: What you say? Da? He bumps back? Kus is a champion.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's a tough one to do. Uh here, champion,
Speaker 1: He'll boss back. Where are you at? All the other
Speaker 1: players on the Magic, where are you at? Yeah, KCP
Speaker 1: gonna have to step up. He is the one with
Speaker 1: the championship experience. Uh So we're gonna need to see
Speaker 1: KCP step up and then yeah, this has kind of
Speaker 1: been the problem with the Magic like this is, you know,
Speaker 1: they need a little more. Who else going to do it?
Speaker 1: So they're playing the Juggernaut, so this could be a
Speaker 1: sweet Cole Anthony Black.
Speaker 2: They gotta step up and one of them just gotta
Speaker 2: take the challenge. You gotta be that third person, all right?
Speaker 2: Where are you at? Oh my boy? Triple j four
Speaker 2: points three rebounds to assist once still and god wa.
Speaker 1: Man, let me explain their schedule. They played on the tenth,
Speaker 1: They played home on the tenth. They flew to Denver
Speaker 1: the night of the tenth, play at Denver on eleventh,
Speaker 1: flew back to Memphis, played in Memphis. On the thirteenth,
Speaker 1: flew to San Francisco, played in the playing game against US.
Speaker 1: Lost in San Francisco. Flew back to Memphis, played in Memphis.
Speaker 1: Had to leave the next day to go to ok
Speaker 1: see them guys were exhausted, man, And where I am
Speaker 1: at is. I was surprised to see Trips still in
Speaker 1: the game after the eight min of mark in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, or anybody for that matter. You knew them
Speaker 1: guys was fried. That's bad. That's on the coach, that's
Speaker 1: on the training stat At halftime, they almost threw the
Speaker 1: tile and y'all running them guys into the ground. That's
Speaker 1: fake hustle. All right, it's a playoff game. Maybe you
Speaker 1: go out eight minute mark of the third quarter, all
Speaker 1: of them guys should have been sitting down. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm at on that.
Speaker 2: I totally agree. Sometimes you gotta wave the white flag,
Speaker 2: especially how they got there. If you get blown out
Speaker 2: like that, it's almost better and losing at the buzzer,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it hurt more?
Speaker 2: Your body hurt more sitting there and saying up, yeah,
Speaker 2: But you're sitting there watching the game. You rest and
Speaker 2: you get to sit a whole half, whole quarter. You
Speaker 2: know this is not the best I can do. Right,
Speaker 2: You're getting that, you're getting that break. But to keep
Speaker 2: having those dudes in thinking that where you gotta go
Speaker 2: from forty to twenty it was you can you can
Speaker 2: honestly see that the whole team was tired.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Where are you at? Oh u cla, my boy, Norman pal?
Speaker 2: Only with twelve points? We need norm to step up? Uh,
Speaker 2: get more shots or more access to shots? What's your
Speaker 2: thought on that?
Speaker 1: My thought on that is Normal is the fourth option. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many points people as shots people
Speaker 1: expect them to get. You got James, who's the system?
Speaker 1: You got Kawhi who we know who he is? And
Speaker 1: Zubos it's the third option. So I think contributing twelve
Speaker 1: as the four fourth option ain't that bad? Can he
Speaker 1: do a little more possible? But how many opportunities he
Speaker 1: gonna have with being the fourth option?
Speaker 2: I think they need to look for Norman Pole. Clippers
Speaker 2: do a great job of getting to the free throw
Speaker 2: line anyway. He's just another person who draws a mismatch
Speaker 2: can get to the line. I think running some sets
Speaker 2: for him because he can't catch fire, and he can
Speaker 2: be that swing swing guy on the back end that
Speaker 2: can knock down to three and get to the bucket.
Speaker 1: But you gotta I think the.
Speaker 2: Clippers need to figure out a way to get that four, fifth, six,
Speaker 2: some type of flow with those other dudes, because it's
Speaker 2: very systematized.
Speaker 1: James, then Kawhi, and then Zubab. So who you taking
Speaker 1: away from though, because somebody take it away from somebody.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kawhi didn't have a great game though,
Speaker 1: b he had twenty two points and didn't have a
Speaker 1: great game. James thirty two, Zubos twenty one. That's what
Speaker 1: I think. I think points between three guys I think
Speaker 1: they do. I think they defaulted. I think the Clippers
Speaker 1: hit the default button and they regress to a lot
Speaker 1: of James, a lot of Kawhi, a lot of one
Speaker 1: on one. I felt that they were pressing, they were
Speaker 1: playing great, they were playing great. That ball need to
Speaker 1: move a little bit more. I agree. I mean they
Speaker 1: can move that ball.
Speaker 2: They can move that ball and share, they can share
Speaker 2: a little bit of that sugar, right with Kawhi making plays,
Speaker 2: James making plays, and then who is going to be
Speaker 2: really the third because Zubac is not going to be
Speaker 2: your third option in this series.
Speaker 1: If you can make Joker have to guard to take
Speaker 1: some of the way on the offensive ending, you probably
Speaker 1: want them to be the third.
Speaker 2: But that being the fourth option, to me is better
Speaker 2: because I need more wings scoring, I need more pressure
Speaker 2: on Westbrook and Brawn and Aaron Gordon. So having a
Speaker 2: normal Powell activated takes nothing away from.
Speaker 1: Zubac, don't. I just don't know how many touches you
Speaker 1: can get for so many guys, you know, like that
Speaker 1: was the problem with that was the problem with Kawhi
Speaker 1: coming back. It's never a problem Kawhi coming back, So
Speaker 1: take that with a grain of salt. But that was
Speaker 1: gonna be Norm's problem always with Kawhi coming back. It's
Speaker 1: just that he won't get the same opportunities, but he should.
Speaker 1: That's my thought.
Speaker 2: I think you get you get Zubak his ten to
Speaker 2: twelve throughout the course of the game, to wear a
Speaker 2: Joker down.
Speaker 1: But you gotta activate that. That third score. Zubak is
Speaker 1: not a score, right, you want him, you want him.
Speaker 1: He's a great post scorer. It's not a scorer. He's
Speaker 1: a good post he's a good post player.
Speaker 2: But he's not a like he's not posting enough Joker
Speaker 2: And and oh, we're gonna load up Zubac and he
Speaker 2: can probably get us thirty on Joker.
Speaker 1: But if he gets you twenty one and thirteen on Joker,
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fucking good. That's really good.
Speaker 2: But you can get the same twenty one and thirteen
Speaker 2: in the fourth position because you're still getting the same
Speaker 2: amount of shots or looks.
Speaker 1: I don't think they lost it because Zubox touches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they blew the game. Yeah, they blew the game. So
Speaker 1: that's just having Norman Powell activated umps the Clippers they
Speaker 1: need they need. Let's see if Norman is up activated
Speaker 1: next game. I guarantee you one of those three guys
Speaker 1: is gonna be a drop. We'll watch for that bad.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your reactions. Speaking of the Denver Nuggets,
Speaker 1: they have some towels on their seats and about their
Speaker 1: playoff run, and they say we believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just so somebody gets fired, some original
Speaker 2: and unriginal.
Speaker 1: Man. Come on, Denver, just call me. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a slogan. This ain't gonna work. Somebody toll be fired.
Speaker 2: Somebody should be fired. This don't work in Denver. You
Speaker 2: gotta come up with something from Denver.
Speaker 1: It don't work. People actually still say to us like, yo,
Speaker 1: we still believe, like we believe. I say that too.
Speaker 2: Always say come on, that's like warrior mantra, like we
Speaker 2: always we still believe. That's kind of like like we
Speaker 2: replaced that we believes.
Speaker 1: We still believe. Yeah, yes, somebody should be fired. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's so much. All right.
Speaker 2: Man, Before we get up out of here, I gotta wait,
Speaker 2: what moment.
Speaker 1: Well, before you wait, what how about you tell me
Speaker 1: about this coffee shop that you open, the l a
Speaker 1: called Oatmeal Radio Cafe. Before we get out, can you
Speaker 1: tell me about that because into the coffee, say, I
Speaker 1: ain't know b they was into the talk to me.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, we got the latte, the macha, the
Speaker 2: London fog drip coffee, uh, and then radio. So you
Speaker 2: know I'm a big fan of coffee. I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of music. So we came up with a concept
Speaker 2: of a radio cafe. So radio, uh, DJs, music, artists,
Speaker 2: performance and coffee. So coffee being a centerpiece how we congregate,
Speaker 2: but music also being that instrument how people relate. So
Speaker 2: come the Old Mill Radio Cafe. Come catch it by.
Speaker 2: We got the best lattes. You know, we got the
Speaker 2: best London fog, the original London fog. We're gonna start
Speaker 2: calling it the south central fog. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: the West Side fog.
Speaker 1: Now. But it's cool. It's a lot of artists.
Speaker 2: We do artists, showcase, DJs come through and we enjoying coffee,
Speaker 2: We enjoying good drinks, good food, good people love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I gotta tresh it out. No dog
Speaker 1: got on top of that.
Speaker 2: Oak Mill Radio Cafe will be a platform for independent musicians.
Speaker 2: So you'll be able to go on the platform and
Speaker 2: see who performing.
Speaker 1: Uh support that music, support artists as well, Steve Start.
Speaker 1: We gotta get l a excuse me, we gotta get
Speaker 1: Old Mill Radio Cafe partner with independent masters. We gotta
Speaker 1: do that. Stout o g right there, Stout you out there,
Speaker 1: you hear this. Independent artists independent, you know, United mass
Speaker 1: independent artists. Come on now say no more wait what
Speaker 1: wait what? Wait what Hey? It's probably one of the
Speaker 1: biggest wait what we've had all year.
Speaker 2: Nico Harrison damn all the homies. Nico Harrison in his interview.
Speaker 2: In his exit interview said, I did know Luca was
Speaker 2: important to the fan base. I didn't know quite to
Speaker 2: this level. WHOA Do you believe him? I absolutely believe
Speaker 2: him because.
Speaker 1: I think in his role, in his mind is you know,
Speaker 1: I understand Nico came from Niken. He hasn't worked in
Speaker 1: the NBA for a million years, so in his mind
Speaker 1: and see this, this is where people can get misconstrued
Speaker 1: with the NBA. People think everyone wants to win a championship.
Speaker 1: Not true. And when I say everyone, I mean every team,
Speaker 1: even every player, every coach. That's not true. But so
Speaker 1: you kind of get these misconceptions of the NBA of
Speaker 1: like the most important thing at all times is just
Speaker 1: to win a championship. And I can imagine that that's
Speaker 1: what Nico's thinking, So, which is why he keeps talking
Speaker 1: and he keeps saying stuff because in his mind it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, this is what I think. It's best for
Speaker 1: a championship. And if he can simply just say that
Speaker 1: it be done with it, I think he would, But
Speaker 1: that's not the day and age we live in. You
Speaker 1: have to have an explanation for everything. And so what
Speaker 1: he's struggling with is he made a move that he
Speaker 1: thinks it's best for them to win a championship, right,
Speaker 1: that don't really matter to everybody else. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the lesson that he's learning is that it was
Speaker 1: an unpopular decision. Exactly, your unpopular decision is what you're
Speaker 1: gonna be remembered by, because the most important thing in
Speaker 1: people mind isn't to win a championship. People are fans
Speaker 1: of who their fans are. Like one of the biggest
Speaker 1: reasons the NBA is so huge is because people know
Speaker 1: the players and their fans of these players. I think
Speaker 1: that's where you know Nico struggling a bit. I think
Speaker 1: my advice would be, like about four weeks ago, he
Speaker 1: should have made that his last time talking about Luca
Speaker 1: and everything else from that point on should just be
Speaker 1: Luka doncis. What he did for this franchise was great,
Speaker 1: but we have players here that we need to focus
Speaker 1: on and it's disrespectful to them to not focus on them,
Speaker 1: and that should have just been his answer four weeks
Speaker 1: ago and shut everybody up. But he's keep he kind
Speaker 1: of you know, I love nico U. He's kind of
Speaker 1: kept saying things, and it's just keeping the story running.
Speaker 1: And you gotta let the story die. And it's just
Speaker 1: like there's no right, like you can't write it, but
Speaker 1: there's nothing he's going to say that's going to right
Speaker 1: the ship. So you just gotta like silence it and
Speaker 1: move on. And I think, you know, maybe in his
Speaker 1: mind it's like, all right, we get to the end
Speaker 1: of the year, move on, but people are going to
Speaker 1: always ask about Luca, and you have to have an
Speaker 1: answer that's like that's it, I'm done with it, and
Speaker 1: move on because the story just keep running. It won't die.
Speaker 1: You gotta be tapped in all sensors.
Speaker 2: When you're running an operational organization, you gotta be tapped
Speaker 2: in unpopular decision.
Speaker 1: But it was his decision.
Speaker 2: As a general manager to look at the future of
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks and say, if I have to exchange
Speaker 2: one piece for the next, what am I getting in
Speaker 2: return that can get me over the hump one, am
Speaker 2: I giving away that I'm gonna miss? And so his
Speaker 2: decision was they would be the biggest team in the NBA.
Speaker 2: They had the three point shooting and defense is ultimately
Speaker 2: what lost him the championship. It wasn't offense. But to
Speaker 2: your point, you gotta gotta move on.
Speaker 1: You traded him. That's what you're gonna be known for.
Speaker 2: And so hopefully Dallas and the team that you're building
Speaker 2: up has that playoff in that championship pedigree. Or like
Speaker 2: a reporter asking why he shouldn't be fired.
Speaker 1: That's crazy to ask somebody. He's just why? Why? Why
Speaker 1: you don't ask somebody? You know the reporters that I
Speaker 1: don't like. That's the definition of kicking somebody while they down.
Speaker 1: And like you you you why why shouldn't you be fired?
Speaker 1: Like like what do you mean? Why should not be fired? Like?
Speaker 1: What what have you done more than I've done? That
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be fired? Right?
Speaker 2: That's why stop super Wide. That's clownless, Nico living his peace. Man,
Speaker 2: let him live in his decision. Nico, empower yourself, move on,
Speaker 2: make the right decisions for the MAVs, and you got
Speaker 2: a good fight.
Speaker 1: You gotta They gotta hell of a team in a
Speaker 1: helopop nation.
Speaker 2: When Kyrie get back and they get one hundred percent healthy,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be forced to record win and people are
Speaker 2: talking shit now, but they could be the Houston back
Speaker 2: in the two seed, back in the three ceed next year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's a rot from this episode of The Draymond
Speaker 1: Green Show with the Legends, with all of is Baron Davis,
Speaker 1: my dog. I appreciate you, brother, love bro good love.
Speaker 1: Game two. Let's get that victory. We need to get
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