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Speaker 1: From the RAMS Studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is March fifteenth, to beware

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Speaker 1: the eydes of March. And we've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about here as the new league year has finally started,

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Speaker 1: and that means we get to talk RAMS free agency

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Speaker 1: and RAMS trades. Miles Simmons, JB Long, and DeMarco far

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Speaker 1: Are all got the memo, Yeah, I know what happened

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Speaker 1: to you? Well, I like wearing book. I got the

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Speaker 1: Navy blue memo. This is great. This is great visual

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Speaker 1: things that you're doing for people who are listening to

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Speaker 1: always want to be different. Well, and that's fine. Yes,

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Speaker 1: producer Matt is also behind the camera. But it's good

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Speaker 1: to have you here. JB. It's been a while. Nice

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Speaker 1: to see you both. I mean, good work at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and the Combine and everywhere else you guys

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Speaker 1: have been. But it's nice to be able to speak

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Speaker 1: freely and openly about all the great things that I

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Speaker 1: think less Need and his group have done to this

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Speaker 1: point in free agency. Absolutely, And so let's just sort

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Speaker 1: of run down what's happened before we get into it,

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Speaker 1: because there are a lot of things obviously Marcus Peters

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Speaker 1: and a key to leave. The Rams traded for both

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Speaker 1: of those guys. A number of weeks ago. We knew

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Speaker 1: that we couldn't really talk about that because that would

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Speaker 1: have been tampering. But now we can be those moves arefficient.

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Speaker 1: It is kind of a funny running rule. Anyway. I

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Speaker 1: sort of wish they would look at that and examine it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So those are two trades that the Rams made. Got

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Speaker 1: two really good players, but they also traded a couple

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Speaker 1: of pretty good players too. Alec Ogletree was traded to

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Speaker 1: the Giants for a couple of picks. And then outside

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Speaker 1: linebacker Robert Quinn now is going to be defensive in

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn once again as he goes down to Miami

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Speaker 1: and he will play down there for Adam Gaze. So

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Speaker 1: that's two other trades, two big transactions there. And then

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Speaker 1: the Rams also had now resigned a slot corner Nickel

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Speaker 1: Willby Colmanto a three year deal. That's a pretty significant

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Speaker 1: thing there for him. Also signed free agent cornerbacks Sam

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Speaker 1: Shields last week. Shields used to play for the Packers.

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Speaker 1: He was out for basically the entire twenty sixteen season

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Speaker 1: and with concussion issues, then sat out the twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: season as well to get himself right. Now he is

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Speaker 1: back with the La Rams and they placed the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag on the Marcus Joy. So those are a lot

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Speaker 1: of moves that the Rams have made. They now have

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Speaker 1: nine draft picks. So we will start with a lot Miles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm saying a lot to get today. Where

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Speaker 1: do we start? We will start with a Key to

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Speaker 1: Lebe Marcus Peters. What are you guys' impression of those

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Speaker 1: two traders? Great players, outstanding players in Kansas City and

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Speaker 1: in Denver wherever a Key to Lee was playing. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was tremendous and Marcus Peters, you know, out

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Speaker 1: of the gate, was one of the best corners that

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Speaker 1: we've seen. You know, watching Marcus Peters on film, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he has three legs in his back pedal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is just that quick and he can

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Speaker 1: just absolutely blanket anybody to that side. And he really

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Speaker 1: wants to play. Uh Talib used to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of transitioned into a space player. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's got so much experience that he knows the receiver,

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Speaker 1: he knows that quarterback and he knows where he's supposed

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Speaker 1: can kind of play those games with those those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But putting those two on the field at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I mean, which team in the league has receivers like

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Speaker 1: what Tremaine We all did. We like what Tremaine Johnson

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Speaker 1: this an upgrade and calling this the best secondary on

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Speaker 1: paper right now, and all we have in March is paper.

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Speaker 1: I think that's legit. The names and the experience and

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Speaker 1: what they can do in the National Football League is tremendous. So,

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Speaker 1: like you said, great move by Less need getting those

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Speaker 1: and now not a need whatsoever is remarkable, and all

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Speaker 1: the better that they've done it by upgrading the position

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Speaker 1: at a cheaper cost, which obviously puts them in a

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Speaker 1: position to do a lot of different things. Among them,

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Speaker 1: which is probably now the focus of the defense from

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Speaker 1: this point forward. We have a little fun I think

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Speaker 1: this is where the secondary should have been about two

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Speaker 1: seasons ago. Tremaine Johnson hadn't really arrived just yet. You

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Speaker 1: still had generous Jenkins and Rodney McLeod was still making

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Speaker 1: a keep to Leeb covers every big receiver you have.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Peters can cover just about anybody with LaMarcus Joiner

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Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joiner with your eyes, trying to beat him with

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Speaker 1: your eyes and shoulders. It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Even if you do. He's got the recovery speed. So

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Speaker 1: A couple other reactions, one thank you to the New

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Speaker 1: if that wasn't going to continue here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Good for him. It also puts the Rams in position

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Speaker 1: to get some decent compensation back for him and Most importantly,

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Speaker 1: it gets him out of the NFC and specifically the

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman said, I think it was to the MMQB

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Speaker 1: which I know will get to later. Yes, is completely inflated.

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Speaker 1: top tier corners for not just this year, but next

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Speaker 1: year as well. Yeah, that's a great point, JB. It

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Speaker 1: is it's not just this year, it's next year. You're

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Speaker 1: based on the fact that you've got Jared Goff on

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Speaker 1: You've got Todd Gurley on his rookie contracts still from

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Speaker 1: So those are two very important pieces that eventually are

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Speaker 1: going to need to be extended. And say, with Marcus Peters,

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Speaker 1: which at this point I can't imagine why they wouldn't,

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Speaker 1: But are those are guys that you have to now

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Speaker 1: this up to JB, the fact that the Rams kind

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Speaker 1: more so than somebody at linebacker, at inside linebacker and lesson.

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Speaker 1: Need even talked about that yesterday. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily a knock on Al Gogiltree, who clearly was

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Speaker 1: a valuable kind of piece. But when you're able to

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Speaker 1: the next best person on that list has fifteen picks, Like,

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Speaker 1: like a real Wade Phillips defense. Why wouldn't you adjust

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Speaker 1: running the National Football leaguer out of eleven personality You're right,

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Speaker 1: to you by what other offenses are presenting. True. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you can spread that money around, especially to guys

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Speaker 1: free safeties, I think that that helps you win games.

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Speaker 1: That helps you become playoff contenders, or at least be

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Speaker 1: a better defense. If you can couple that with an

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Speaker 1: least keep the football, I think you're a playoff consider

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Speaker 1: you're not recruiting Sue to Los Angeles. I would love

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Speaker 1: for that to happen. I would love for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: It is just not going to happen. Where would he play, right,

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Speaker 1: But that's no. But it's my question. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a chance. If you want to play three technique, compete

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Speaker 1: with Donald, I'll give you a week. Right, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he's not going You already have this one. That's my point.

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Speaker 1: You already have the best three technique in football. And

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Speaker 1: see when I keep seeing this, Oh my gosh, Sue. Sue, like,

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Speaker 1: if your rams need a nose tackle, if you can

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Speaker 1: about sacks and worry about team defense. Yeah, then you've

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Speaker 1: retirement money. I don't see that necessarily fitting. But hey,

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Speaker 1: it was DeMarco's story about me and Joe Green. This

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Speaker 1: week it is here, DeMarco's chain snatch. I'll make it

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Speaker 1: on it just doesn't fit. You make a move and

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00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 1: you get to see the best player. But here's the

428
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 1: diligence that the Rams did, and they do this evaluation

429
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: with their draft prospects, with their free agent prospects, with

430
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: their trade prospects, is what do the people who have

431
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: been closest to him think of him as a competitor

432
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 1: on the football field and potentially a liability off of it?

433
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 1: Do the cost that way the benefits are is the

434
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: perception grounded in reality? And then how do we potentially

435
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: bring him to our place and put him in a

436
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: position to succeed on and off the field. And I think,

437
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: let's face it, to bring in a key to leave

438
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: and Marcus Peters and let Robert Quinn and Alec Ogletry go,

439
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 1: there's a trade off there in terms of what the

440
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: established perception is. And I think how the Rams feel

441
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: about the infrastructure they have in place from the top

442
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: down of the coaching staff and the culture that they've

443
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 1: created in just one season, that they can absorb that

444
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: and they can get productive results out of the players. True,

445
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't think as Richie Incognito ever ran a foul

446
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: of the wall, where as all his mistakes made on

447
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: the field, Well, yeah, Jonathan, just as bad thing did

448
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: not happen on the field, but it was within the

449
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: locker room culture, saying you may not have handcuffs, but

450
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 1: you might be just as crazy, you know what I mean,

451
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: You might not get locked up, but yeah, well I

452
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I think that there is something

453
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: to what Peters was saying. And so I will read

454
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: this quote that he said, sort of after we had

455
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: a little sidebar and Vincent Bonsen, You're a Southern California

456
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: news group, asked him this question. I'm not gonna say

457
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: I will, I will bleep my please go ahead, But like,

458
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: I think it was a good quote because it's kind

459
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: of emblematic of the way he feels about these kinds

460
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: of things when he's asked about them. And so he says,

461
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: I just don't like it when blankety blanks whoops, excuse

462
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: my language. I just don't like it when blankety blanks

463
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: talk about me and they say that I've got off

464
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: the field issues, because I could be sitting here, I

465
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: could be getting DUIs and I could be doing all

466
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: the rest of this stuff. I could be getting arrested

467
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: and I could have a mug shot, and I don't

468
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: have that burden on me. It's cool because I don't

469
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: really care. At the end of the day, I go home,

470
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: I sit back with my family and that's who I'm

471
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: really chilling with. So like it, you know, I think

472
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: a the best part about that quote is that he

473
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: says an explative, which it's on Twitter if you really

474
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: want to find it, go to Lindsay Theories Twitter page.

475
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: She put it up there. He says an explative, apologizes

476
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: for using an explative, and then proceeds to use the

477
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: explative again, which is fantastic uses of explotive. But he

478
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: also I think makes the point of Look, you know,

479
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: my thing is I'm competitive on the field. I know

480
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: I need to mature there. But you know, if you

481
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: want to talk about like off the field concerts, that's

482
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: that's not me. Don't don't put me in that box.

483
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Speaker 1: And I think as especially in the day and age

484
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: we are where every time you know, you look at TMZ,

485
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: sports whatnot, there's something about a football player doing something bad.

486
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: I think he's got a point there. Everybody always talks

487
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: about Marcus Peters and him throwing a flag. What you're

488
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: not going to hear is the stories about him standing

489
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: in line at grocery stores and buying groceries for kids

490
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: and their mother for them. Yeah, and that's off the

491
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: field as a bit of a stretch, and the Chiefs

492
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 1: winner lose that week. I'm just mean bad. The reports

493
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: of these kind of stories came out after the trade.

494
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: At twenty five, I wasn't my best person in at

495
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: thirty five, I'm still not my best person. So regardless

496
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: of what's taken place to this point in his life

497
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: in his career, that statement to me says, Hey, I'm

498
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: drawing a line in the sand and evaluate me on

499
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: who I am from this point forward. My intention is

500
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: not to be someone who has off the field issues.

501
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm hyper competitive on the field, and that's why you

502
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: guys went out and traded for me. So let's go. Yes,

503
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: the guy can play ball. We know this, and he's passionate.

504
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: It's obvious he can play um like you said, like

505
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: Alden said, maybe the question wasn't worded properly. Yeah, and

506
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: that could set a guy off, you know it. But

507
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: on the field, the guy's a beast. We know, having

508
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: watched him for the last few years, it's unreal. When

509
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: he's out there, it's like the rules of football don't apply.

510
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: He's playing backyard ball. Yeah, he's doing anything he can

511
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: to get that ball out of your hands. I would

512
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: nickname him the Glove if it wasn't already taken. I'm

513
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: not kidding. I mean, he is absolutely covering you. He

514
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: is taking you away. Oh, it's funny. I mean we

515
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I asked him yesterday when we were interviewing him, what

516
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: how do you develop that kind of thing where it's

517
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: you you make so many interceptions, because like that is

518
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: very unique, especially you know, having twenty one in three

519
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: years like that that's really unique. And he said, well,

520
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: this seaball get ball. That's just what I've done. You know,

521
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's just who he is. And I don't know,

522
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: it's funny talking to me Philips about that same kind

523
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: of thing. Phillips just goes, yeah, it's that's kind of

524
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: God's gift right there. You know. It's like I wish

525
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: I could say that I coach these things and that

526
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: that's why all these guys are so good. But sometimes

527
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: there's just this innate sense of being able to create takeaways.

528
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: And that is something that Marcus Peters definitely has. Well,

529
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: you watch him, he wears down receivers. I mean they

530
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: start giving up on routes before they were at the

531
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: top of their break. He'll just give up because he

532
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: that receiver even without looking, knows that Marcus is staring

533
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: at the back of the quarterback's head because they're not

534
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: even going in that direction right, So it just starts

535
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: to get boring. But his play never drops off. You

536
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 1: will never certain guys will, like genera Jenkins way back

537
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: in the day, would be a cover guy, a guy

538
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: that's taking you away and then lose focus for one

539
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: play and that one hits the end zone. Yes, this

540
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: guy never loses focus. When the balls in the air

541
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen yards away, he still thinks he has a shot. Yeah,

542
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: that's the stuff that I like that shows up on tape.

543
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean he is sprinting to the football when it's

544
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: not his guy. Love it, Love it, Love it. One

545
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: other thought on the DBS before, because I know we

546
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: got other things to cover on the podcast, and that is,

547
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: how would you like to be avery pleasant right now?

548
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: Probably would really really like it. Thought about him on

549
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: the way over. I mean, I thought he did a

550
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: phenomenal job in his first year coaching corners with the

551
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. Just dynamic presence that relates well to

552
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: his players, has a really bright future, and I'm not

553
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: sure anyone is teed up for success as a position

554
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: coach across the league more so than Aubrey pleasant Is

555
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: right now. I think that those two players were talking

556
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: about in that room collectively, Boy, is that going to

557
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: be a fun dynamic to watch throughout OTA's training camp

558
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: in the season. You are Dale Earnhard Jr. You've got

559
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: a fast car. All you got to do is drive.

560
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: All you got to do is keep it on the track.

561
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: We've basically just spent a lot of time talking about

562
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: just those two guys, But now you keep the kel

563
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: Roby Coleman in that mix, and I think that goes

564
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: into exactly what you were talking about, JB. I mean,

565
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: this is another guy that played very very well, I

566
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: thought in the slot, and you need that kind of player,

567
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: especially when so many teams are going into a loven

568
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: personnel right now. And the fact that the Rams keep

569
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: that element of things that I think that's a really

570
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: good thing. Look at the depth they needed at that

571
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: position last year, even back to back seasons, really among

572
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: the healthiest in the league, and they still needed a

573
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: lot of depth, just like everyone does at those positions.

574
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: So now they haven't haven't mentioned Troy Hill's name yet.

575
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: He played like a starter down the stretch last year.

576
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: Haven't mentioned Kevon Webster yet coming off and Achilles, yes,

577
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: but was a starter for this defense last year. Kevin Peterson.

578
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: There are others there who are ready and waiting in

579
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: the wings and or can provide options for you in

580
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: terms of collecting other pieces that you need on your

581
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: roster to compete with your fifty three. Yeah, it's a

582
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: tough room. If your dominic hatfield, it's a tough room, right,

583
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: It just got tougher. It was tough to begin with,

584
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: I just got tougher. So the competition is just it's

585
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: rising in that room and other teams know it across it.

586
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting there's a trade coming for one

587
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: of those pieces. But if you get to say the

588
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: middle of training camp, and you have a need to

589
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: address that is going to be a position on your

590
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster and you have more dbs than

591
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: you can keep. That's a position of strength. What happens

592
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: if Sam Shields can still play like Sam Shields before

593
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: he got hurt? Oh boy? Yeah, Well you're in good shape, right,

594
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: You're in great shape, tremendous shape. Absolutely. Who can't you cover? You?

595
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: You're you're good, you know, I mean, the deepest wide

596
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: receiver group in the league. You're you're all right in

597
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: terms of your defensive that and that's not just speculation

598
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: guys coming out of the draft. These are guys that

599
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: have done it right in the National Football League. Yes,

600
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: all on one roster. Wow, who you acquired for low

601
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: commitments in a low risk, high reward situations almost across

602
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: the board here, right? And that's and that's another thing.

603
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean you you mentioned Truemain Johnson going to the Jets.

604
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean you look at the way those salaries are

605
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: all structured now on the Rams. You're paying all those

606
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: guys basically for what Truemay Johnson's going to make in

607
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: one year over in New York, So that I think

608
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: it's cost effective. Obviously, there are some things coming up

609
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and then maybe next year Todd Gurley,

610
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and then you're after that Jared Goff that you just

611
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: have to really think about and consider you are the

612
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, so that getting these cost effective cornerbacks

613
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: and making it arguably in March fifteenth, the best group

614
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: of defensive backs on paper. That that's something I do

615
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: want to mention this too, because I tried to kind

616
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: of go Marcus Peters into saying like, yes, we were

617
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: probably the best group of defensive backs in the league,

618
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: and he would not take the bait. And I called

619
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: him out on giving me a corporate answer, and he said,

620
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that right now, because like

621
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: if I say that, what what does it mean? Like

622
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: why could I talk about it when I could just

623
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: go be about it. So until we actually go out

624
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and do stuff like, I'm not going to say something

625
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: like that. That's the Mike Tys rule. When Mike Tyson

626
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: was the head coach of Minnesota. Yeah, and in the

627
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: offseason he mentioned there's going to be a Randy Moss ratio,

628
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: which means Randy Moss is going to see the ball

629
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: x amount of times. Yeah, Well he said that in March. Well,

630
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: every other defensive coordinator heard that. Yeah, So just careful

631
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: making statements in March Also, while we're on the DBS,

632
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: any nicknames for our secondary. I've heard LAPD, I've heard swat.

633
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: How about RAM secondary? How about that for now? I

634
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: just I don't like LAPD. I don't think that's I'm

635
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: still rolling with mob squad collectively. I think that works.

636
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: And was it Peters who said it best pick your poison? Yeah,

637
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the way that they're gonna play. Yes,

638
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: because they've both been number one guys who've had offenses

639
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks avoid them. It's no avoiding them now, Yes, exactly,

640
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: and that's that's going to be one of the most

641
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: fun elements of this defense. But there are still elements

642
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: that the Rams have got to replace, I mean, namely

643
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: inside linebacker and now outside linebacker as well. Samson A

644
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: becom seems like a player who will be able to

645
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: ascend into that sam outside linebacker role, maybe replaced Connor

646
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: Barwin A. Lesnie did say that the Rams still have

647
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: interest in bringing Connor Barwin back during contact with the

648
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: agent of Barwin, so we'll see how that turns out.

649
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: But again, samson A becom I think can't ascend a

650
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: little bit. But on the other side, you've got Matt Longacre,

651
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: who played very well, I thought, in a rotational role

652
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: before going down with a back injury at the end

653
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: of the season. And then it's kind of a question

654
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: mark there. And then an inside linebacker. You know, you've

655
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: got Bryce Hager who's been around for a few years.

656
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: You've also got Corey Littleton who's done some things. You've

657
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: gotten Mark Barron. But who becomes your signal caller is

658
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: an issue now that you have gotten rid of alec Ogiltree,

659
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: who had that position and had that leadership role for

660
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: the last two years. Would you, guys, I'm thinking draft draft.

661
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I might fill that inside linebacker spot with a veteran,

662
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: but which guy? Who? Right? I mean I even heard

663
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman, which would be cool. I mean, you're gonna

664
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: be tougher against the run. But you know, how much

665
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: does he have left? The one thing, with all of

666
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: your respect to him, no, very fair. The one thing

667
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: I had was perhaps Todd Davis, who was of the Broncos,

668
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: and that was because, right, that's because he had been

669
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: with Wade Phillips and probably be comfortable in that system.

670
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: But he is going back with the Broncos. I think

671
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: he saw he got a three year deal, so that

672
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: would be off the table. There are still, i'm sure

673
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: options in free agency, but I think you might be

674
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: right draft draft. But again, you have a pick at

675
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: twenty three and then you don't pick again until the

676
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: third round, so maybe you trade down or something. I

677
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: don't know, but if you're looking at the really quality starters,

678
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough in the draft. Well, you know

679
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: who I want, if you had a choice, I would

680
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: love that nose tackle coming out of Washington. Yeah, and

681
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: then I can feel, yeah, then I can fill in

682
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: around him at inside backer. You're gonna have to draft outside.

683
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the way it goes for edge guys.

684
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: I think the draft is full of edge guys, and

685
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can find an eight and a half

686
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: SAT guy or somewhere close in the draft at some point.

687
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: With the way this defense is set up, But either

688
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: that nose tackle or that inside linebacker, somebody has got

689
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: to be a little stouter than what they had last season. Yes, yeah,

690
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean I think you either have to have a

691
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: true inside linebacker or a true nose tackle. If you

692
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: can get both, then your defense is that much better.

693
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't like necessarily going into the draft, knowing that

694
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: you have starting holes and multiple starting holes that you

695
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: need to plug at a layer of your defense. If

696
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: that's how it happens, so be it. But because of

697
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: the draft capital that they have, I'm not sure that's

698
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: necessarily the plan of attack. But what I love about

699
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: what the Rants have done so far is just because

700
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: they have a need does not mean that they're buying

701
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: into crazy season. Yeah, they had a need at receiver

702
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: last year. They got Robert Woods at a bargain basement price.

703
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: They drafted Cooper Cup and it wasn't until midway through

704
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: training camp that they acquired Sammy Watkins. To complete that puzzle.

705
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: There's still time. There are still resources both in terms

706
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: of money salary cap and available options that you have

707
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: in terms of making a trade to fill roles on

708
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: their team. They're in a very very good position had

709
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: they complete the puzzle yet. No, they may not through

710
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: free agency, they may not through the draft, But when

711
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: it's time to play games in week one, I think

712
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: there's plenty of resources here and the right people to

713
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: deploy them to get a full defensive roster in place.

714
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: You played in a three four defense with blown up

715
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: safeties at inside linebacker. They're not going to panic. They're

716
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: not going to panic. Yeah, it's just not gonna And

717
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: it's not lost on them that they were very good rush, yeah,

718
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: very good cover, not brilliant against the run, right, And

719
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: and that's with an offense that was playing from in

720
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: front for most of the season, So I mean that

721
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: might have hit even more deficiency, right you had run defense. Yeah.

722
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: So look, it's we're not the only ones, and us

723
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: and our audience are not the only ones that realize

724
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: there are improvements that need to be made there. It's

725
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: certainly a priority for them, but they quickly and efficiently

726
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: addressed a glaring need at corner which was of more

727
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: urgent need, and now have put themselves in position with

728
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: plenty of money left and all of their draft picks

729
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: to go out and do something right in the second

730
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: level of their defense. Yeah, And I think that's probably

731
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: what we're going to have to see, is just them

732
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: continuing to address that area. And like you said, Jabe,

733
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty of time. Look, it's March fifteenth.

734
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know when week one is, but it's basically

735
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: six months from now, and so I mean we think

736
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: about you know, the way the Rams looked last year

737
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: at this time, where we probably man seven and nine,

738
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: eight and eight will probably be a good season for

739
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams in their first year under thirty

740
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: one year old head coach Sean McVeigh. That turned out

741
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: to be very very different. You know, we didn't know

742
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was going to be a part of this

743
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: team at that point. You know, there's so many different

744
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: things that can happen, as you're saying, from now to September,

745
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: because look there's six months like this is a lot

746
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: of one. The one thing I don't have any concern

747
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: about this stage is that the coaches, the coordinators are

748
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: communicating specifically and clearly to the front office what they

749
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: need to find success. After one year of the McVeigh era,

750
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: working with Less need we know that without a doubt

751
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: are they done yet? No? Right, But does Less have

752
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: any doubt what Wade Phillips needs to complete the puzzle? No?

753
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Does he have any questions from Sean McVeagh about do

754
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: you want can you live with? Or without saying no?

755
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Like those are all very clearly communicated, and I think

756
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: it's showing in the results. There seems to be one

757
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: voice now right, one collective, one collective voice. Everybody's on

758
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: the same page there, right, Yeah, and that's important. It's

759
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: something that you know, you sort of just alluded to

760
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: with Sammy Watkins and you talk about the Sammy Watkins

761
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: versus LaMarcus Joinner with the franchise tag. Look, I mean

762
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that the Rams prioritize having LaMarcus Joinner

763
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: for a reason, and that back into that defense, you know,

764
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: it would probably be harder to replace LaMarcus Joyner than

765
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: it will be now that the Rams have to replace

766
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins as he goes to Kansas City. I guarantee

767
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: you can't replace LaMarcus in a year. Yeah, it won't happen.

768
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: You can probably replace a Sammy Watkins or a receiver

769
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: in a year. Josh Reynolds. I can't wait to see

770
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: And don't forget about Mike Thomas, the guy with speed

771
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: and size. Yes, with another year under his belt learning

772
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: this offense learning Jared Goff. I mean there's gonna be

773
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: some guys that are just dying to get on the field. Absolutely. Yeah.

774
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: So I mean I don't think you can replace LaMarcus

775
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: like that. It just won't happen. And I'm not sure

776
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: that you need to replace Sammy Watkins with another Sammy Watkins,

777
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I believe going into yesterday, and

778
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I think it was affirmed by what Sean McVay said

779
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: that they need another dynamic playmaker and specifically pass catcher.

780
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily need to be a wide receiver. I

781
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: think they will try and enhance the wide receiver position

782
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: between now in Week one. But one way you can

783
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: replace Sammy Watkins production is by getting better play out

784
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: of your tight ends. Yes, yes, single, you have arguably

785
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: now one of the best receiving tailbacks in the National

786
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Football League. That's an immense asset. Robert Woods is a

787
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: number one receiver and it's time we start speaking about

788
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: him as such. And if Josh Reynolds becomes your number

789
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: two or three, if Mike Thomas fils a role, if

790
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper fills a role, or if there's someone else

791
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Terrell prior whoever else is being tossed around that can

792
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: come in and play. It be a cog in Sean

793
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: mcvay's offense, so much the better. But Sean mcvay's offense

794
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: is built around cogs and Sammy Watkins certainly helped, but

795
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you need Odell Beckham for Sean mcvay's

796
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: offense to succeed. He went from thirty second to first

797
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: with the personnel last year. There's no doubt in my

798
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: mind that they can sustain offensive production without Sammy watch.

799
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the tight end element of

800
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: things because I think that that's something that the Rams

801
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: definitely have to get better at, is that production out

802
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: of the tight end. And whether it's just Gerald Everett,

803
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee, they seem to be really excited about Jameric

804
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: Hemingway also coming back off of his season ending injury

805
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: that he suffered during training camping in the preseason last year.

806
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Or maybe they go out and they get somebody else

807
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: in free agency. Tyler Eiffert is out there guy in Cincinnati.

808
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: He's gone through his injury issues, but when he's right,

809
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: he's extremely productive. So that's a position where, yes, you

810
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: know that you've lost Sammy Watkins, and Sammy Watkins, I

811
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: think it's going to be probably very productive in Kansas

812
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: City with Patrick Mahomes. But I think when you're looking

813
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: at Sean mcvay's offense, I don't think it's an offense

814
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: where you're going to have a guy get eighty catches

815
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: for thirteen hundred, fourteen hundred yards in thirteen fifteen touchdowns.

816
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see it happening because they spread the

817
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: ball around so much. I mean, you look at how

818
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: many guys said like six hundred to seven hundred plus

819
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: yards receiving last year, Cooper cop Robert Woods, you know,

820
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: Watkins didn't quite reached six hundred, but Todd Gurley, all

821
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: of these guys have so much to do with the

822
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: way this ball gets spread around. And I think that's

823
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: why the Rams were able to be the number one

824
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: scoring team last year, because you couldn't just key in

825
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: on one guy. I just heard Jared Goff say, watch this,

826
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: it could possibly happen. I mean, yeah, I mean it's

827
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna get spread around. But I'm glad you guys mentioned

828
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: those tight ends. When we heard about Sean McVay and

829
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins offense. The first thing you talk about

830
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: is the tight ends, right, And I like that combo,

831
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: that three headed monster with him and Way in the mix.

832
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: He's a giraffe in pats. You can't miss him down

833
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Everett is your athletic guy

834
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: and Higbee is your inline blocker type, the guy that

835
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: catches you off balance. I like that trio. They have

836
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: to get better. We talked about that, didn't we Miles

837
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: on a previous episode about things The tight end group

838
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: has to get better. Yes, those receptions and those catches

839
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: and that production that Sammy Watkins had or any receiver

840
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: had out there, it still needs to be had. It's

841
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: just it's gonna change positions. It could be more girly,

842
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more tight ends, it could be more

843
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: cup I would bet it's gonna be more Robert Woods. Yeah,

844
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I would bet that this guy is ready for a takeover.

845
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Kind of like Doug Baldwin. When you talk about the

846
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: elite receivers in the National Football League, no one ever

847
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: mentions Doug Baldwin. But when you turn on playoff football,

848
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: there he is. When you turn on Sunday or Monday,

849
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: there he is turning up everybody's secondary. Robert Woods is

850
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: kind of that guy. You may not mention him as

851
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: one of the best, but on game day he is.

852
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: What I wouldn't say it worries me or concerns me, though,

853
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: is the red zone. And I think the fact that

854
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: the Rams were tops in the league and scoring and

855
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: weren't that great in the red zone and now lose

856
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, who, next to Tid Gurley, was their best

857
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: red zone threat. Yes, and they didn't get much, if

858
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: anything from their tight ends in the red zone. You

859
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: look at one area where offensively they can take a

860
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: giant leap forward. I think that's it. One thing that

861
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: does stand out to me about the red zone and

862
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: the more quarterbacks running the end. Yeah. Yeah, it was

863
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: a nice play in London, Yeah, Jared, and they tried,

864
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: they try to double up on it against Arizona. I

865
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: don't think they'll make a happen of that. Note was

866
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: that the play before Gerald Everett made the touchdown catch?

867
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: Was that third down before that fourth down? I don't remember.

868
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't quite remember. If Sean McVay were here,

869
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: he's got this amazing memory, he would probably be able

870
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: to tell us. But um, there was a play in

871
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Arizona where Gerald Everett basically ran the goal line on

872
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: fourth down and they needed that touchdown and Jared Goff

873
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: delivered it to him. So I think you know that

874
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: obviously that's something Sammy Watkins did me did it very

875
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: very well. I think maybe four five of his touchdowns

876
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: came on plays like that. And I hope I didn't

877
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: just screw that setup. But that somebody who you know,

878
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily replace Watkins with one person. But if

879
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about different roles that Walkins had on the offense,

880
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: that's one that maybe Gerald Ever could take. You remember

881
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: if you can remember how many times did the Rams

882
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: attack the back pylon. The back pylon, the fatball was

883
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: not a part of their red zone offense lush. At

884
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: some point, somebody's gonna have to fill that role. It's

885
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: it's in everybody's offense. You need to attack the entire

886
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah. Yeah, they like more of the rub routes,

887
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: the quick slants and then girly out of the back room.

888
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: They sound success. Yes, somebody I would. I thought Sammy

889
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Watkins was going to be that guy given time. Well

890
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: that's gone now, Well somebody else is going to have

891
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: to attack that pylon. Could be that That could be

892
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: a Josh Reynolds role because he's got sixty three and

893
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: he does use his entire frame when he is when

894
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: he's out there unlike some six three wide receivers that

895
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: used to be on the RAMS. I don't know what

896
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: food makes you guys salivate, but when I see quarterbacks running,

897
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: I just my mouth of water. So just I might

898
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: even let you score just to hit you. You are

899
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: really a deef in some lines. I mean, come on, now,

900
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: maybe your change should have gotten but yeah, I think

901
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to those roles, Josh Royland's definitely a

902
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: guy that I'm looking forward to seeing how he has

903
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: progressed when it comes to OTAs and things like that.

904
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: So that you know, because the second year wide receivers,

905
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I've said this on this podcast before,

906
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: that's when they really start to take that jump, and

907
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: they kind of start to take a little bit of

908
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: a leap and you see what they can really truly

909
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: be in the National Football League. Isn't that a confidence thing?

910
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: Or I think it's more of a confidence thing. I mean,

911
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: you come into the National Football League or as you're huge,

912
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: you're learning a huge playbook. It's different from college, so

913
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: it takes you a while. That's that transition period. Then

914
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: you go into your first offseason where you don't have school.

915
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: It's just you your pro you're liking it, you're loving it,

916
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: and then you start to realize this is just football again.

917
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: And I'm bigger, taller, faster than anybody they have covering me,

918
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: either on my team or the opposition. And you start

919
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: to see guys a sin Maybe he could be that guy,

920
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: a guy like Mike Thomas. All he's looking for is

921
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Yeah, I want a coaching staff and a

922
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: quarterback that actually thinks I can play. Let me show

923
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: you what I can do given these reps. And and

924
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: then you start to see stars emerged. So you hope

925
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: that happens, and I hope Cooper Cup takes another step forward. Yeah,

926
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't look back ever. Um, what did

927
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: I hear there's more in the windshield than in the

928
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: review mirror? Something like that. I think he's that sort

929
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: of guy. He's not going to think about last season,

930
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: good or bad. He's only going to think about how

931
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: he can get better moving forward. That's going to drive

932
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: that room. So look, the Rams are gonna line up

933
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: with four receivers or three, three and four receivers. They're

934
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: gonna have at least five on the roster. Who that's

935
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna be? We don't know, but all those guys are

936
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: going to be immersed in this offense. That's a guarantee. No.

937
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: I just thought of all you're going down is every

938
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: single rep this offseason. And maybe this is overblown, but

939
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: think of who Josh Reynolds and company. You're gonna be

940
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: lining up again. Marcus Peters, Yeah, Sam Shield, Marcus Joyner,

941
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: Kel Robie Coleman. You're gonna learn if there's an iron

942
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: sharpening iron effect, if you had it all. No matter

943
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: who it is stepping in to replace, Sammy Watkins is

944
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: going to be ready to go come game. To my

945
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: favorite quote, my favorite saying from OTA's in training camp,

946
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron. Oh, yeah, you're gonna learn how to

947
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: play with those guys. And you're gonna learn how to

948
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: play when guys are talking trash to you. Yes, you're

949
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna learn how to play when these guys are having

950
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: success against you, because all this is going to happen

951
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: on game. Oh and competing in the Running Game, because

952
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: I will say Robert Woods, but also Sammy Watkins, I

953
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: think unheralded for his performance last year was the way

954
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: he competed in the Running Game. So whoever steps into

955
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: fill that role. There's a standard that's been set now

956
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: by that receiving room for the Los Angeles Rams, and

957
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: if you're going to join it, you have to be

958
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: willing to compete in that respect. Glad you said watching

959
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: Sammy block, I mean he's a bully. Yeah, he's shoving

960
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: guys around. And what I see I don't see a

961
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: reaction out of the guys getting shoved. They just take

962
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: it and move on. Really like, it depends on who's

963
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: blocking you. If he gives you the business, you give

964
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: it right back to him. I didn't see anybody jamming

965
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: Sammy up at all. You just kind of let it happened.

966
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Is that that sign of respect? Is that what you're saying? Yeah?

967
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: I think so. He's huge and he's loosing the second. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

968
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: be careful. So yeah, Kansas City got a hell of

969
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: a player. Make your reservations to join us in Mexico City.

970
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: By the way, true, how good has that matchup got

971
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: City versus the La Rams? Here? Matt, you got something? No,

972
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm just excited little family reunion on a vacation. You're

973
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: on our side? No, yeah, yeah, okay, we're not see

974
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: any red. We are delving into MAT's history. A lot

975
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: of talk about Kansas City today, and I'm not that

976
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: upset about it. Yeah, yeah, Mats matsa Kansas City guy.

977
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any He enjoys his barbecue

978
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: just like I do, even though I'm not from Kansas City.

979
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: But Kansas City Barbecue's we welcome any and all. Yes,

980
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Gates Barbecue, Gates Barbecue. What kind of question is that?

981
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: I thought the Manhattan Barbecue was taken over the scene?

982
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: Didn't I see that on Brooklyn? It was Brooklyn Barbecue.

983
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Barbecue had like two ribs really on a little

984
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: on a little platter. It was kind of a mean,

985
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: it was pretty ridiculous. I might have had if we actually, yeah,

986
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: talk about that seriously. So but what did you think, Matt,

987
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: when you saw the Brooklyn Barbecue? I just laughed. I mean,

988
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: there's there's not even a comparison, having been I lived

989
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: in Kansas City for eighteen years, lived in Texas for

990
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: four years, and I've been to Nashville. So there's not

991
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: really a best barbecue that I haven't tried. I've got

992
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Saint Louis in there. You did live in Saint Louis.

993
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: I did like you said, I'm a Kansas City guy.

994
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm a Kansas City guy. Came out there, friendly city rivalry.

995
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: Those Cardinals fans over there, there are a lot to handle.

996
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: Just ask them. Um, No, I shouldn't just crap on St. Louis.

997
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Let me let me be clear in St. Louis in

998
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: the show, I enjoyed my time in Saint Louis. Let

999
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: me be clear. Shout out to Sugar Fire anyway. So

1000
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: the Rams still have some moves to make before the

1001
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: beginning of the offseason programming. Mean, there's still a few weeks.

1002
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: What would you guys like to see the Rams do next? Well,

1003
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish you could wave a magic wand

1004
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: and figure out if Cavon Webster is going to be healthy,

1005
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: figure out if Mark Barron's going to return to being

1006
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Mark Barron. I think those two things are are going

1007
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: to help you figure out what your defense is going

1008
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: to look like ultimately. I guess. Look, I don't forget

1009
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: about offensive line. I think you still need some depth

1010
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: there for the future, and and just to just in case,

1011
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 1: because you never know what happens. You know, you could

1012
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: lose guys for certain periods of games or maybe games

1013
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: in particular, So you don't want to drop off to

1014
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: be too dramatic going from one guy to the next.

1015
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: So I would welcome some fresh blood there. Maybe you

1016
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: guys that could push the starters, maybe become a starter.

1017
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Maybe even he's a guy out if he's better. You're

1018
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: always looking for improvement. So I mean we're talking about defense,

1019
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about a lot of things, but I mean

1020
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: still football comes down to the five guys in front. Yes,

1021
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: if you can't block, if you can't protect, then you

1022
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: don't have a chance to win on Sunday. Linebacker is

1023
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: the easy one. But I think it becomes easier to

1024
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: address if you know that John Sullivan is coming back. Yes,

1025
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: going into the draft, where you add at center in

1026
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: terms of knowing that you're starting five is coming back

1027
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: and that continuity, because then I think you can be

1028
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: pretty targeted in terms of what you're selecting and with

1029
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: what starters in mind. So that to me is kind

1030
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: of the first order of business. I would think is

1031
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: Sullivan coming back to work with Cromer and Goff and

1032
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: keep that intact. And we like him, so this is

1033
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: no knock, but I want Jamal Brown to reach his

1034
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: potential now right now, right now, Well, not two years

1035
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: from now, not six games into this season. I'm talking

1036
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: right now, Well be that guy. What's interesting about that

1037
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: situation is, I mean, right now, you look at the

1038
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: way the Rams have continuity upfront, and they can especially

1039
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: if they get John Sullivan back. But this is a

1040
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: contract year for Jamal Brown, Rob Havenstein and Roger Saffold.

1041
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, obviously guys are motivated regardless of what

1042
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: their contract situation is. But you want you I mean

1043
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: talking about Jamal Brown wanting to reach his potential right now, Well,

1044
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: this this is the time to do it, absolutely, because

1045
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: this is the off season where you're going into that

1046
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: second contract as a pro, and that's what you want.

1047
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't think they need any extra motivation,

1048
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: But if there ever is any extra motivation for them,

1049
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: it would be that me. I'd give them extra motivation

1050
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: in bodies two guys right right behind you that are

1051
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: one step behind you, that can take your job like that.

1052
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: But that's where I kind of think those it's a

1053
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: sliding scale between those two position groups. I think if

1054
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: you're able to add a starting linebacker between now and

1055
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: the draft, maybe there's more draft capital'll be spent on

1056
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: offensive line. If you know that you're starting five is

1057
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: coming back, but you're not able to address linebacker, obviously,

1058
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: that becomes more urgent to address and find starters in

1059
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: the draft. Any interesting Tom Bowie, twelve of your guys, yep, yeah,

1060
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: we go back to Kansas. I'm the guy can rush

1061
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: the passer. Derek Johnson too at middle linebacker, still got

1062
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: some juice at Brian Cushing at least. Brian Cushing too

1063
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: is also a free agent, I believe ye. And he's

1064
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: a Wade guy. Yeah, he played for Wade Phillips in Houston.

1065
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: But all these names and we can do this for

1066
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: another hour. That my overriding point for today. Yes, yes,

1067
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: But my my overarching theme at this moment in time

1068
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: is it's clear to me that there's an evaluation process

1069
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: and a discipline and less seat in his front office

1070
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: staff are completely committed to. There are probably a lot

1071
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: of those names we kind of bandied about. There is

1072
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: some interest in, but there's a price point at which

1073
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: point the interest wanes and they're not going to go

1074
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: beyond that because there there's their staying with their plan

1075
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: because they have more important pieces like Aaron Donald, who

1076
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: still need to be taken care of, and more important

1077
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: roles that they have addressed already, right, and then thirty

1078
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: and then golf. Yes, yeah, you've got a plan for

1079
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: the few, right. I agree on one are those positions

1080
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: that we talked about, the holes at least one veteran.

1081
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: You can't fill them all with draft picks, do you think?

1082
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: At least that's why Sullivan came to mind, because you can't.

1083
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: You can't need to find a starting center and at

1084
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: least two starting linebackers between now and training camp. I agree,

1085
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: without the benefit of a trade or a free agent,

1086
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: especially when you only have one. You only have a

1087
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: one of three and then like five sixes. Excuse me,

1088
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: it's a one to three, two fours and five sixes.

1089
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: I think if I could cut Tyrn Walker's legs off

1090
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: at the shins and just kind of shrink them down,

1091
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a perfect nose tackle at the shin.

1092
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: I just just just shrink them just a little bit.

1093
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: Just got this image of you just like hacking away

1094
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: at a leg. There's just blood. Is a game of

1095
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: throne season or I need to back and I just

1096
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: push it down nineteen whole thing, you know, I know

1097
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but my goodness, I was just saying graphic. Yeah,

1098
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: it was very very graphic. All right, before we get

1099
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: out of here. It is obviously March, so that means

1100
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: there is marsh madness. JB is our resident basketball expert.

1101
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: Even though that you know, I know you're calling Pac

1102
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: twelve games. He's watching, right, Matt. Wow, that has been

1103
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: a great producer. Rhode Island is currently on track to

1104
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: upset Oklahoma with seventeen seconds left in overtime. Upset they

1105
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: were Rhode Islands. I'm saying an up I guess it's

1106
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: not an upset. I call it an upset because I've

1107
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: been watching Oklahoma all year and I okay, but that's why, sorry,

1108
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: any Rhode Island is expected to win. I guess all right.

1109
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I will go around the panel and ask all of you,

1110
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: who do you have is your final four slash year champion.

1111
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: If you can't remember your final four, JB will start

1112
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: with you. I'm riding Arizona for two reasons. One because

1113
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: they're the only Pack twelve teams still standing and I

1114
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: gotta stay loyal to my roots. And two because I

1115
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: think DeAndre Aden is the best college basketball player I've

1116
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: ever seen in person, and so I think that talent

1117
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: will carry the day for the Wildcats. Ditto to everything

1118
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: he said, except for the best player guy. Yeah, okay,

1119
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but just it's the PAC

1120
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: twelve last hope. So I'm rolling with Arizona. Who's the

1121
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: best player you've ever seen in person? And college basketball? Uh? Crazy?

1122
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Lamon Murray and Jason Kidd were on the same team

1123
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: at Cal and they would just beat the daylights out

1124
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: of us. This is the same time Arizona was great

1125
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: with Miles Simon and I think Mike Bibbie was there

1126
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: and another guy. Remarkably, I get called Miles Simon like

1127
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: not that's why I love But seeing Jason Kidd, oh

1128
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: forget it? Yeah yeah yeah running the break, you had

1129
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: no shot. So Jason Kidd, Matt who you got? Be

1130
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: horned frogs out of Texas Christian University to the final four?

1131
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: When't it all? Baby? I'm joking in all honesty, I've

1132
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: got UVA for no particular reason without their six man

1133
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: who got hurt? I don't. I don't really care. Good

1134
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: draw good draw forth. I picked North Carolina. I think

1135
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: I have UVA going to my Final four. I was fine.

1136
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I was in um an establishment at Indiana in Indianapolis.

1137
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: It was just a bar. Telling him an establishment kind

1138
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: of made it sound weird, didn't it. Yeah, but yeah

1139
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: it did. Um No, it's just a bar. It was

1140
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: in a bar in Indianapolis during the combine when they

1141
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: hit that like bank shot with point nine seconds left,

1142
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh wow, I guess UV is good.

1143
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't. I don't really know anything

1144
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: about college basketball. I just watch it now. It's honestly

1145
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: probably the best way to fill out your bracket. Just

1146
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: don't watch all year and then lean on kempom yep, yeah,

1147
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: or my instincts. I just send to lean on my instincts,

1148
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: all right, any parting shots before we let the people go,

1149
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: I would pay a larger sum of money than I

1150
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: can afford. To see the RAMS schedule for twenty eighteen

1151
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: right now. You want to know, I cannot wait another

1152
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: You want to know we've got we got like a month.

1153
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: I cannot wait another mile one because it's incredibly compelling

1154
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: to me, especially given what teams like Denver, Minnesota, San Francisco,

1155
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: Arizona are doing. Yes, and two because I need to

1156
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: play my life around it. Yeah, but I am it is.

1157
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely it is now get close enough where I think

1158
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: about it every single day, and I cannot wait to

1159
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: see how it shapes up. I think the Rams schedule

1160
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: being very favorable played into their success last year. I

1161
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: don't expect any favors whatsoever from the schedule makers this

1162
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: year because it's going to be a gauntlet, no absolute gauntlet,

1163
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm looking for improvement from everybody, including thirty,

1164
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: including guys that played well, including ninety nine. That's even possible.

1165
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: I think there's there's more there. Um, So I'd be

1166
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: careful naming the secondary this early. Let's see how they

1167
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: line up, Let's see how they play. The names will

1168
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: take care of itself. And remember, it's not the Snatcherer's fault.

1169
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: It's the Snatcheese fault for wearing a chain on the football.

1170
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: We're going to get out of here on between the horns.

1171
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in, everybody. Hey, I

1172
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: do want to mention this. We're starting our new Facebook

1173
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: watch series, Behind the Grind. If you go to Facebook

1174
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: dot com backslash Behind the Grind you will be able

1175
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: to check that out Thursday night six pm. That's one

1176
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: of the first episode jobs. It's an exclusive documentary series

1177
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: produced by us in Here at the RAMS Broadcasting Network.

1178
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: You should definitely check it out. First episode it's going

1179
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: to document the combine, so again, definitely check that out

1180
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: on Facebook. So for our producer Matt for JB. Long,

1181
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: DeMarco far A, Mile Simmons, we'll see you next time

1182
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: on Between the Horns.