Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta just step back and let
Speaker 1: people figure out their own situation because that's their business.
Speaker 1: Always tell people this, listen to your body. Oh listen
Speaker 1: to me, Listen to your body, and if you don't,
Speaker 1: that's also your business. What's up, everybody? I'm Gammy and
Speaker 1: this is positively gam In this episode, we're going to
Speaker 1: be discussing embracing a career you didn't choose. Joining me
Speaker 1: today is actress, mom, motivational speaker, vegan food vogger boss,
Speaker 1: and Everybody's auntie Tabitha Brown. Hello there, So are you
Speaker 1: looking for like a raw inspired meals that you can
Speaker 1: eat for breakfast, lunch? Maybe a good snack? I got you.
Speaker 1: Let's make chopped red bill peppers, chopped purple in you,
Speaker 1: some chopped men and cucumber. Put it all in the bowl.
Speaker 1: Get some outside of the accord on there like so
Speaker 1: like that, get your little olive O. Okay, but you
Speaker 1: use whatever you want with this your business, okay. For
Speaker 1: those of my listeners who may not know Tabitha, she
Speaker 1: gained immense Internet popularity with her online video content, which
Speaker 1: incorporates veganism. Humor and motivational speaking. But Tabitha's original career
Speaker 1: plan was to be an actor. And I just want
Speaker 1: to tell you, Tabitha that my girlfriend Wendy was the
Speaker 1: one who termed me what to you originally because she
Speaker 1: said you gotta look her up on Instagram. She is
Speaker 1: so funny. So welcome to positively gam Tabitha. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me, honey, and thank you Windy for looking
Speaker 1: out for your girls. I'm telling you, and she was
Speaker 1: absolutely right. You are such a personality. But you know,
Speaker 1: I read that you were inspired by Rudy on The
Speaker 1: Cosby Show. That's what made you want to get into
Speaker 1: an acting career. Get as a little girl. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was to be an actor
Speaker 1: when I was five, right, And I'm from a small
Speaker 1: town in North Carolina. I've never seen acting. But I
Speaker 1: remember as a family every Thursday we would watch the
Speaker 1: Coffee Show and I remember telling my mom, I want
Speaker 1: to be Rudy's free and the ring the doorbell, Nick,
Speaker 1: and come in the house, you know, go and play
Speaker 1: with rude I said, no, I just want to go
Speaker 1: in the TV do my thing and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come home. I was trying to explain to her, I
Speaker 1: want to be an actor like Rude and that was
Speaker 1: my first introduction. But yeah, that's how I started. So
Speaker 1: tell me about your acting career journey, because you moved
Speaker 1: from North Carolina to l A. Right, I did that
Speaker 1: two times, but the first time don't really hunt because
Speaker 1: I didn't move to l A. You know, when I
Speaker 1: was in high school, I've always wanted to act my
Speaker 1: entire life. I always wanted and I remember my mama
Speaker 1: telling me. She said, you know, I know you want
Speaker 1: to be an actress, but you don't know anything about
Speaker 1: Nobody in our family were was actors as she was.
Speaker 1: But I also used to make clothes in high school.
Speaker 1: She was like that, you make clothes and you do that, well,
Speaker 1: why don't you go to school fashion design so you
Speaker 1: have something to fall back on that can help you
Speaker 1: pursue your dream. And it wasn't that she was trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, detour me. She just was going off what
Speaker 1: she knew, you know, And so I thought, well, that's
Speaker 1: a good idea. So I had got accepted to this
Speaker 1: college down in Miami International Fire North, So I went
Speaker 1: there when I graduated high school, and I remember I
Speaker 1: was there for the first semester. Then I woke up.
Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday night in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: and all I can think about was I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be an actress. I was like, school was going great,
Speaker 1: you know, I was part of and I had good
Speaker 1: grades and everything was good. But I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: an actress. And I called my daddy and like one
Speaker 1: in the morning, woke came up. I said, there to listen,
Speaker 1: I'm there here wasting your money. You need to come
Speaker 1: get me. I'm supposed to be an actress and I'm
Speaker 1: a kid, a girl. He said, well, I gotta work
Speaker 1: at the meal on Friday. When I get off, I
Speaker 1: hear there because it was fourteen hour drive. He came
Speaker 1: to pick me up on Saturday morning, and when he came,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, now I gotta figure out how
Speaker 1: am I gonna get to this acting. And I was
Speaker 1: back in my hometown of Eden, and I decided to
Speaker 1: apply for Plumbia College in Chicago. Was thinking, oh, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hit me and my mama flew out there
Speaker 1: felling over the school. Fell in love with Chicago because
Speaker 1: it was spring won't win them, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: now I'm about to go to school here. Two weeks
Speaker 1: before the time ago, I got the letters that said, oh,
Speaker 1: due to your financial aid from the school in Miami,
Speaker 1: we cannot your financial aide, so I couldn't go to school.
Speaker 1: So I just said, you know what. My mom had
Speaker 1: a friend that lived out there in California that had
Speaker 1: told me one time before, if you ever want to
Speaker 1: come to California, you could come and rent a room
Speaker 1: for me. And I thought, oh, I wondered if that
Speaker 1: lady still will allow that. I called her and she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna come out here. So within two weeks I
Speaker 1: made that decision and I said, I'm gonna go to California.
Speaker 1: I'm just go to see my dreams. I'm nineteen. Now
Speaker 1: what lady and Tammany was she was crazy and she
Speaker 1: was gonna take out my money. She left that part out.
Speaker 1: Girl said nothing about that, all right, and I want
Speaker 1: in l A. I was down in Horns, down in
Speaker 1: Lagoona the gale. It was beautiful, but I won't know
Speaker 1: where in Hollywood. And my husband was my boyfriend at
Speaker 1: the time. So I had been out there for a
Speaker 1: couple of months and then his the plan was he
Speaker 1: was gonna move out and then we get our own place.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him how bad it was, so when
Speaker 1: he got there, he said, this is crazy, but like
Speaker 1: taking all your money. We're in Orange Canty, you're working
Speaker 1: two jobs. You ain't doing nothing to where you could
Speaker 1: do no acting. We ain't even in l A or
Speaker 1: even close to it. We need to go back to
Speaker 1: North Carolina, save up for one year, then moved to
Speaker 1: l A where you can really pursue your dreams. And
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, that sounds like a good, you know,
Speaker 1: good good plan. So we ended up saving up and
Speaker 1: went back to North Carolina and the one year plan
Speaker 1: turned into five years, a baby, marriage, house calls, jobs,
Speaker 1: and a forgotten dream. If I got pregnant and had
Speaker 1: my door to after we moved back, I thought, man,
Speaker 1: I missed outing my opportunity. I can't pursue no acting
Speaker 1: now I got a baby. You know, from you stake
Speaker 1: your little regular life, and that's right. And so I
Speaker 1: literally believed that for a long time, and then one
Speaker 1: morning something shook my bed and woke me up, and
Speaker 1: it felt like I had had an earthquake in brienceburnerth
Speaker 1: Callina and I woke up and I heard a voice
Speaker 1: that sounded like thunder, and the boy said, this is
Speaker 1: not the life I planned for you. And it scared me,
Speaker 1: and I got on my knees and I started pringing.
Speaker 1: I said, now, Lord, I this is you speaking to me.
Speaker 1: I need you to show me a sign today. If not,
Speaker 1: I'm about to go admit myself into the hospital because
Speaker 1: I'm hearing stuff. And I told my husband what happened,
Speaker 1: and of course he thought I was a little losing
Speaker 1: it too. He was like, okay, I said, but I
Speaker 1: didn't ask the Lord to show be a signed today.
Speaker 1: And later the day, we were on our way to
Speaker 1: the mall and on the radio that DJs name was
Speaker 1: Buster Brown. He had a radio show that came on
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I got a new TV show on
Speaker 1: the b I'm looking for a female co host and
Speaker 1: I'll be holding audition this girl out towards the cart up.
Speaker 1: I've been here five years and there was never ever
Speaker 1: an audition in Greensbury, North Carolina. And I told my
Speaker 1: husband that's my sign, that's my job. And I went
Speaker 1: to that obviously and I booked it. Wow, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, it's time. Now, it's time,
Speaker 1: it's time to go. And I've been here ever since,
Speaker 1: and that's when I got here and started my journey
Speaker 1: into acting. But of course it didn't start as soon
Speaker 1: as I got here as I planned, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well let's let's jump ahead a little bit. Did you
Speaker 1: have any idea that the videos that you were posting
Speaker 1: online would go viral? Oh? Girl, No, I didn't even
Speaker 1: want to do videos. Like what even made you think
Speaker 1: about doing that? Well? I had, you know, I was
Speaker 1: sick for a year and a half. When I fell
Speaker 1: into depression and anxiety. I got to a place where
Speaker 1: I didn't believe God heard me anymore, right, I I
Speaker 1: And you know I grew up in the church. I'm
Speaker 1: a woman of faith. But I really was like, God,
Speaker 1: you brought me all the way this far, just the
Speaker 1: least be here. And I had had my coming to
Speaker 1: Jesus moment, it's what I call it. One day in
Speaker 1: my bathroom and I got in the mirror and I
Speaker 1: was really in searching my soul and I was like,
Speaker 1: they said, way, you can see that it's through your eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because my eyes are so
Speaker 1: being a girl, it was right scary. When I got
Speaker 1: it in the mirror, I'm like, oh, Lord, But but
Speaker 1: I prayed and I told God, I said, God, you
Speaker 1: know I have been habitually praying, not believing what I prayed.
Speaker 1: But right now I'm giving my my final call to me.
Speaker 1: If you heal me, you can have me. And I
Speaker 1: won't try to do this like my way no more.
Speaker 1: I simply do whatever you ask of me. And I
Speaker 1: meant it that day, I really like left the old
Speaker 1: tab in the bathroom right. And about two weeks later,
Speaker 1: I had a dream. And in that dream at what
Speaker 1: you should also know about me is, ever since I
Speaker 1: was a little girl, I've always had dreams that come
Speaker 1: to past. My mom always said I had to give
Speaker 1: the dream. So in the stream, I saw myself on
Speaker 1: a TV show, like a show of some sort, and
Speaker 1: my hair was like a little short afro because I
Speaker 1: always wear my hair long and straight, because that's what
Speaker 1: my agents and stuff used to tell me. I always
Speaker 1: cover my accent because I was always told to. But
Speaker 1: in the stream, I was completely free. But I just
Speaker 1: had like a little sort of afro. But I was happy,
Speaker 1: and I woke up and I said, there, Lord, I'm
Speaker 1: not a disin. I'm not doing stand up because I
Speaker 1: used to go out and do stand up trying to
Speaker 1: get a TV show. Right, And I was like, but
Speaker 1: what was that revealed that to me? And I heard
Speaker 1: a voice and said, start doing videos. And I said,
Speaker 1: start doing videos. Oh no, Lord, you ain't talking to me.
Speaker 1: I'm literally my floord. Happened this conversation with God. And
Speaker 1: again he said start doing videos. I said, why would
Speaker 1: I do a video? He said, look, when you are
Speaker 1: out doing stand up trying to get a show, you
Speaker 1: would reach fifteen, maybe thirty people at night. You start
Speaker 1: doing videos, you reached thousands and minutes. And I said,
Speaker 1: but Lord, that's where I got you, because I ain't
Speaker 1: even got thousands of followers to reach your minute. So
Speaker 1: just don't even make no sense, right. And again he
Speaker 1: said start doing videos and I said, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: And he said, remember two weeks ago in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: he said, if I heal you, I can't you do
Speaker 1: whatever I asked. I said, Lord, hath Verston caught me
Speaker 1: on a bad day. But I did say that so
Speaker 1: to be obedient. And I was or doing videos. So
Speaker 1: when I first started doing videos, I would be a
Speaker 1: sit down comedian. It's like called myself because I would
Speaker 1: still be in my bed or sitting on my couch
Speaker 1: telling the same stories I would tell on stage when
Speaker 1: I was doing stand up, as a wife, as a mom.
Speaker 1: And then as time went on, I had ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, going vegan. The day that I decided I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be vegan, the same voice that I had heard
Speaker 1: that told me to start doing videos whispered in my
Speaker 1: ear and said, now tell people what you're eating. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, you want me to do what? Lord?
Speaker 1: You want me to tell people what I'm eating? You know.
Speaker 1: I had also shaved off all my hair in this process,
Speaker 1: and I was really just trying to become free, you know,
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was crazy from a small town. Well,
Speaker 1: I want I want to interrupt you for one minute
Speaker 1: because you're talking about when you decided to go vegan.
Speaker 1: What made you decide to go vegan? I was sick, right,
Speaker 1: So when I was sick, I woke up in January
Speaker 1: and I had this headache in the back of my
Speaker 1: head and the headache rested there every single day for
Speaker 1: one year, in seven months, and it would not go away.
Speaker 1: It was accompanied by chronic pain throughout my body, chronic
Speaker 1: fatigue all when I walked what was happening, And it
Speaker 1: was pretty east like a light bulb for me. I
Speaker 1: started talking about all diseases and not have Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: the same thing happened, well, not the same thing happened,
Speaker 1: but I was ill as well. I was ill as well.
Speaker 1: I had a hepatitis scene. And while I was going
Speaker 1: through one treatment program, you know, you're taking all of
Speaker 1: these medications that are really really you know, because it's
Speaker 1: a chemo theory. It's it's like it's like having a cancer,
Speaker 1: all right. And I remember that at one Christmas, my
Speaker 1: grandson who is vegan, well he was at the time.
Speaker 1: He's now I think considers himself vegetarian, but he was
Speaker 1: vegan back then, and he asked us to watch what
Speaker 1: the hell and And I'm telling you that had a
Speaker 1: profound effect on me as well. It was really really
Speaker 1: sick of seeking it and I right, yeah, both absolutely,
Speaker 1: I was the same, but it was it was that
Speaker 1: message for me because my mom died a of a
Speaker 1: ls A disease. They can't tell you what causes and
Speaker 1: there is no cure. My daddy just turned sixty nine
Speaker 1: last month, he's the oldest man ever living at sixty nine.
Speaker 1: And so disease is running the family, as I thought, right,
Speaker 1: But it's the eat habits that running the family. I
Speaker 1: went vegan in to two thousand, right, and I was
Speaker 1: living in Nevada at the time, so I went vegan there,
Speaker 1: and I just have to tell you, I just have
Speaker 1: to be honest, Tabitha. It was one of the hardest
Speaker 1: things to do because everything has eggs, everything has gluten,
Speaker 1: everything has dairy almost and it was just so challenging.
Speaker 1: Plus I was sick, so I didn't have a whole
Speaker 1: lot of energy to be and I don't like to cook,
Speaker 1: so let's just say that out front too. I was
Speaker 1: in a whole situation because I don't like to cook,
Speaker 1: so basically, and if we went out to eat, I
Speaker 1: was just getting a plate of vegetables and some mashed potatoes, right,
Speaker 1: And so it was really really boring. And then we
Speaker 1: ended up moving back to Maryland, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna play this game with myself because Maryland,
Speaker 1: of course, is known for their seafood, and I love
Speaker 1: eating crabs like that is that is an event, that's
Speaker 1: a social event. You know, And I just wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: play the game. So then I went pesketarian. So I've
Speaker 1: been pesketarian for for many, many years now. But one
Speaker 1: thing I like about you is that you don't you
Speaker 1: don't try to force your eating style onto anybody else.
Speaker 1: If we decide that we're gonna have piece chicken. Because
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. A couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I went to I don't know if if if people
Speaker 1: that are listening, no re read in our family, we
Speaker 1: have a blended family. And re Re is Will's first wife.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, re Re gets down. She can cook.
Speaker 1: She can't cook for real. And I went over to
Speaker 1: her house the other day because she had let me
Speaker 1: tell you something, I stopped by. Then she had macaroni
Speaker 1: and cheese. She had as she had fried chicken. Then,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I can't remember the last
Speaker 1: time I had fried chicken. You hear me, I cannot remember,
Speaker 1: but I had it that day. I had that stuff
Speaker 1: looked so good. That chicken looks so Listen, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna feel bad about myself.
Speaker 1: Grown Okay, I'm not gonna feel bad about And I said, yes,
Speaker 1: I had. I told Will, oh, yes, I had a
Speaker 1: piece of I check it at what now you do?
Speaker 1: Most of your videos? Most of them are on TikTok, right,
Speaker 1: because I don't even have it to TikTok account, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about TikTok. No, you know, I
Speaker 1: just started on TikTok in March. But my my original
Speaker 1: platform is Facebook. I started uh Facebook in two seventeen
Speaker 1: when when God first told me to started doing videos.
Speaker 1: I would cook live in my kitchen on Facebook. It
Speaker 1: would be thirty people watching and I'd be like, Lord,
Speaker 1: you said, thousands of minutes where they're at God? And
Speaker 1: I was consistent. I did it every day, every day.
Speaker 1: But I was broke because I've been on disability for
Speaker 1: over a year. My savings was gone, and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, just struggling trying to figure it out. But
Speaker 1: I had started to feel better, and I so I
Speaker 1: told my husband. My husband is my partner, not my provider, right,
Speaker 1: And so I said, listen, I'm feeling better now. I
Speaker 1: need to get back out there and and start making
Speaker 1: some money. Started auditioning again. I said, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go drive Uber because I got a plan. I said,
Speaker 1: when I go out here and drive uber, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna get discovered in my car, and I'm gonna pick
Speaker 1: up the director of producer or cast exact that they're
Speaker 1: gonna love me, and I'm gonna just call you from
Speaker 1: the set. That's literally what I thought, right, And so
Speaker 1: I was dropping somebody all by a Whole Foods on
Speaker 1: December thirty of the twenty seventeen. You know, I'm still
Speaker 1: just a couple of months into my Beagon journey at
Speaker 1: that point, and Whole Foods always got bigan options. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna go ahead, give me some breakfast.
Speaker 1: And I went in there and got a sandwich and
Speaker 1: it was called a t T l A. It's like
Speaker 1: a beacon bacon sandwich that I had never had that before.
Speaker 1: I said, a beacon bacon girl. Yeah, let me get
Speaker 1: there to add a pickle, babe. I come to you
Speaker 1: real quick, honey, real quick. I stopped the Whole food
Speaker 1: now I know they'd be having some vegan options. They
Speaker 1: got a tee teeth in l A and that's a
Speaker 1: tempting bacon, tomato, lettuce and avocado sandle. Yeah. When I
Speaker 1: tell you, I told me, I said, I'm gonna eat
Speaker 1: half now and half late. Honey, I gotta take another
Speaker 1: bite just so y'all can see. Lord have mercy North
Speaker 1: sing but this the baby's sing old food. But I
Speaker 1: get home terminifications on honey, and my phone was going
Speaker 1: off like an amber alert. I was like, what what's
Speaker 1: going on? In The video had over uh like fifty
Speaker 1: thousand views, and I was like, who was watching this?
Speaker 1: Facebook is where I first went Bible January, and that's
Speaker 1: where my audience started growing. So I had from that day.
Speaker 1: He was always thousands of people watching in minutes, and
Speaker 1: my videos would always get millions of views on Facebook
Speaker 1: for the last two years. That's that was my my
Speaker 1: original fan base and platform. And I just got on
Speaker 1: TikTok in March of this year. Okay, so yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's not really what you had planned for yourself, but
Speaker 1: it kind of worked out. And I can relate to
Speaker 1: that as well because I'm a nurse by training and
Speaker 1: so I've been nursed thing since. And then I had
Speaker 1: to kind of retire because Jada needed me to help
Speaker 1: her with children. Because every time when they were doing
Speaker 1: films wherever Will was working, we packed up the whole
Speaker 1: family and we went with him to do this film.
Speaker 1: It really really started for me when I really had
Speaker 1: to just retire for real was when she got Matrix
Speaker 1: and we had to move to Australia and we were
Speaker 1: in Australia for like a year and a half. So
Speaker 1: I totally understand, like, that was not what I envisioned
Speaker 1: for myself, but that's exactly what I ended up having
Speaker 1: to do. And then, of course now I've landed here,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, not something that I saw for myself,
Speaker 1: but certainly a blessing. So how how have you settled
Speaker 1: into this, this career of yours right now? Because it's huge?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Blessed? I'm very grateful
Speaker 1: and and now I'm very much so a lot like you.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it definitely was not my plan.
Speaker 1: I never ever wanted to do anything for food ever.
Speaker 1: I like to eat, I like to cook for my family,
Speaker 1: but me cooking it was never a part of my plan.
Speaker 1: That's how, you know, God got a sense of human
Speaker 1: He be like, oh, you think you're going to be okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you right. Yeah, And so it feels
Speaker 1: amazing because of the responses I get. You know, I
Speaker 1: have helped thousands and thousands of people that I would
Speaker 1: never meet, and to know that my purpose is greater
Speaker 1: than just me being here. It's to help others. And
Speaker 1: I've always loved to perform, and I still do, but
Speaker 1: to be able to have a purpose on my life,
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I feel like this is where
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be all alone, even though it
Speaker 1: wasn't my plan, but it opened the doors to my dreams.
Speaker 1: And speaking of your husband and your your family, and
Speaker 1: you are now are doing videos with your family, what
Speaker 1: does that? You know? My family, they're my foundation, right
Speaker 1: and so I don't exist without them. They are part
Speaker 1: of me. So when last year with my daughter graduated
Speaker 1: high school, she told me she didn't want to go
Speaker 1: to college and she really didn't like school. And so
Speaker 1: she said, you don't want to be an entertainment I
Speaker 1: want to be you know, modeling and all these things.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, well listen and she scorgeous by
Speaker 1: the way, she looks just like you. Yeah she does.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, thank you. And so I just told her,
Speaker 1: I said, well, look all right, I don't believe in
Speaker 1: forcing nobody to do nothing. My family is everything is
Speaker 1: an amazing thing to be able to work with them
Speaker 1: and do things like that. All right, So I want
Speaker 1: to get back to Apatha to some of your vegging recipes,
Speaker 1: because you know I have watched some of them. Oh girl,
Speaker 1: which one girl, because that foold be good and stuff
Speaker 1: of them don't look all that tasty to me. To
Speaker 1: rip the shrimp the big biggest trip, I was like, girl,
Speaker 1: I do not want to taste that. I do not
Speaker 1: want to taste that. Well, you know why, because you
Speaker 1: are a real seafood lover. But just like me, Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, we'll see I don't have to miss seafood
Speaker 1: because I'm psketerarian. The vegan thing was just way, way
Speaker 1: too hard for me. I have to say though, that
Speaker 1: I am really trying to eat more plant based, and
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the to the fact
Speaker 1: that you don't you don't push your eating style onto
Speaker 1: your your family, because I know I have tried desperately
Speaker 1: in numerous ways to get my husband to eat more
Speaker 1: healthfully and it's been difficult. And it's that way with
Speaker 1: eating an exercise. He has um high blood pressure, and
Speaker 1: he has a very strong history of heart disease in
Speaker 1: his family and I really feel like a different being
Speaker 1: style and regular exercise would be so beneficial for him.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he's a grown
Speaker 1: ass man, you know what I mean. And a lot
Speaker 1: of times I feel like you gotta just step back
Speaker 1: and let people figure out their own situation because that's
Speaker 1: their business. I always tell people this, listen to your body.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to me. Listen to your body. And if
Speaker 1: you don't, it's also your business. Okay, then we keep
Speaker 1: for it. We keep on using all your sayings. We
Speaker 1: have to talk about them, Tabatha, because I love them all.
Speaker 1: It's what if I can if I want to, because
Speaker 1: it's my business, and I love the I love the
Speaker 1: one that you use at the end of your video.
Speaker 1: So talk to me. How do you How did you
Speaker 1: come up with these catchphrases? And by the way, while
Speaker 1: you're talking about them, you need to come up with
Speaker 1: a catchphrase for me, okay, because I'm telling you they
Speaker 1: are so funny. So I just love them. So how
Speaker 1: did you come up with them? Tell people you know,
Speaker 1: do it like this contential business? I do it like
Speaker 1: this because it's my business. Like you know, I don't
Speaker 1: put with recipes. I cook from the spirit, because that's
Speaker 1: my business. You put as much as you want to
Speaker 1: in your kitchen. And I remember when I would go
Speaker 1: back and read the comments people will be putting that
Speaker 1: in quotations. I said, why do they keep saying that?
Speaker 1: Why do they keep typing that? Because I wouldn't watch
Speaker 1: my I just go live and be God. One day
Speaker 1: I was in the JIM. I said, let me watch
Speaker 1: this video to see what they talk about. And I
Speaker 1: must have said, because it's my business. Thirty times I said, Lord,
Speaker 1: have mercy. I say that a lot, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's just how I am got it. That's wonderful. What
Speaker 1: would you say to to listeners out there who are
Speaker 1: going to work every day but you know, had the
Speaker 1: same dreams that you have living Bill's character. If I
Speaker 1: had never lived my life and went to those jobs
Speaker 1: and sometimes I hate it and sometimes stay wrong, right,
Speaker 1: would never build the careacter it within myself on how
Speaker 1: to play different characters, right, how to be relatable in
Speaker 1: certain you know, circumstances, and to just not give up,
Speaker 1: to just use those two steppings on their part of
Speaker 1: your story. But you also just have to remember to
Speaker 1: stay focused on the fact that it is temporary, and
Speaker 1: you've got a bigger goal that you're trying to reach.
Speaker 1: But that's all right, it'll pass, right, And all experiences
Speaker 1: are lessons. They're just lessons, not even failures. I used
Speaker 1: to work for a manufacturing company like cosmetics and hair
Speaker 1: products all this where they were making and distribute, manufacturing
Speaker 1: and distribute. Can't nobody to tell me because I already know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's why you had me there. God, Okay,
Speaker 1: I used to work for UPS for five years in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You can't tell me that you don't know
Speaker 1: how to ship no package. And I can tell you
Speaker 1: how the stupid package for the business. I can tell
Speaker 1: you how to pack it. I can tell you the
Speaker 1: international post all of that stuff, you know. And I
Speaker 1: also was a nurse. I didn sna work, and so
Speaker 1: I'm very empathetic. I have a very very big part
Speaker 1: of my heart for the elderly, and I just am always,
Speaker 1: you know, sympathizing with people with being caregivers and understanding
Speaker 1: that and being able to talk to people about that.
Speaker 1: So every single job, it's it's for a reason, absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely all right. As we wind down and wrap it up,
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is right around the corner. What are you fixing
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving dinners? Because I'm a strong believer that now.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I I eat like a peskyterian ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to holiday time, I have a sweet tooth. That's
Speaker 1: that's that is My biggest struggle is that sweet tooth.
Speaker 1: But other than that, when it's holiday time, I don't
Speaker 1: worry about eating mac and cheese. Like I want mac
Speaker 1: and cheese with real cheese. I don't want vegan cheese.
Speaker 1: I want mac and cheese. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Gonna eat a roll? Yeah, you know, I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: stay away from the meat. Yeah, I want to eat
Speaker 1: like it's the holiday. I'm gonna eat just like the
Speaker 1: holidays too. I'll tell you this. I made back and
Speaker 1: cheese this morning for Steve Harvey and he said this
Speaker 1: ain't vegan. Wasn't vegan? Wow? My recipe. Everybody who comes
Speaker 1: and they tried, They're like, I'm not was vegan? I said,
Speaker 1: I am. There's a way to do everything. I didn't
Speaker 1: go vegan because I ain't like how no I'm vegan.
Speaker 1: Food tapes Okay, yeah, I need the same feeling. I
Speaker 1: need the same tape, and I had to figure it out.
Speaker 1: But we have mac and cheese, we have greens, we
Speaker 1: have yams, we got dressing, I got potato salad. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna slice my tomatoes. I'm gonna put my vinok in
Speaker 1: salt and pepper. I'm gonna do all of that, and
Speaker 1: you know every now then we're doing celebration roast, you know,
Speaker 1: which is like the vecon turkey or whatever that substitute.
Speaker 1: But I have everything that I've always had, with the
Speaker 1: exception of any meat. Now, let me ask you, this
Speaker 1: is my last stupid question. Do you have any design
Speaker 1: to do a cook boy actually in writing one. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am. It's gonna It's gonna be a while because
Speaker 1: I'm writing two books at one time. I'm doing an
Speaker 1: inspirational book and I'm doing a cook book. I want
Speaker 1: to feed the soul first and then with be the stomach. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I need copies of boat, so just make sure you
Speaker 1: don't forget about gams. Send them my way. That mac
Speaker 1: and cheese that you describe it sounds really really good.
Speaker 1: I might be able to get rere a break on
Speaker 1: our mac and cheese if yours better. Oka, right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna wind down. We're gonna rhun down and roll on
Speaker 1: out of here with our rapid fire questions for you,
Speaker 1: tell me what book you're currently reading. I'm well, I'm
Speaker 1: writing one, so I'm not reading any because I don't
Speaker 1: like to be this way, so I'm not reading in that,
Speaker 1: but I am writing. Okay, Well, I will accept that.
Speaker 1: And you already said you're you're writing this spiritual inspirational
Speaker 1: book and the cookbook. Okay, so we're gonna look forward
Speaker 1: to that one thing you want to get off your chest, Tabitha.
Speaker 1: You know, stop judging people period, right. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that more and more every day, especially on
Speaker 1: social media. Perfect strangers who will never meet have a
Speaker 1: whole lot to say about each other, and it's sickening
Speaker 1: to me. And I think that we should not do that.
Speaker 1: You know. I even wrote a song about that last week.
Speaker 1: I just honestly feel like I'm gonna do me because
Speaker 1: it's my business. You do you because that's your business.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do because I'm free, and I want
Speaker 1: people to to do the same. Yeah. I think it
Speaker 1: would The world would be a better place spread more
Speaker 1: love than hate. That is fact. That is fact. No, really,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. People have a whole lot to say about
Speaker 1: somebody never laid eyes on a never met. It's very
Speaker 1: easy to do. Meet me out in the street, exactly, exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's a model that you live by? Tabatha? I am enough.
Speaker 1: I am enough just as I am however God created me.
Speaker 1: She's enough. I'm enough. I love that. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Tabatha. You are a joy. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you are enjoy and I look forward to your spiritual,
Speaker 1: your inspirational book and your cookbook. And thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Please tell the audience where they
Speaker 1: can find you on social media. Absolutely, you can find
Speaker 1: me on social media and I am tapped at the
Speaker 1: brown just about everywhere TikTok, Facebook, uh, Instagram, YouTube, tapped
Speaker 1: at the brand. Alright, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: them positively gay, we have to close it out right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna bout your business and have yourself a good day.
Speaker 1: But even if you can't have a book, don't you
Speaker 1: ever messing up. Nobody else is in Thank you, Ti,
Speaker 1: I love you and thank you for having me appreciate
Speaker 1: So here are my takeaways from my conversation with Tabitha.
Speaker 1: Number one, remember your why, don't just follow what's trending
Speaker 1: when it comes to your food choices. Number two, you
Speaker 1: don't need to force your choices onto anyone else because
Speaker 1: that's your business, not theirs. And number three, if you're
Speaker 1: not quite where you want to be in your career path,
Speaker 1: it's only temporary. Don't give up. Let every experience be
Speaker 1: part of the lesson and part of the journey. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening, everybody. I hope you enjoyed Tabitha Brown as
Speaker 1: much as I did. Rate, review, and follow the show.
Speaker 1: Share your thoughts on the episode and let me know
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