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Speaker 1: A massive bust of pedophiles online and guess how they're

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Speaker 1: doing it. They're using Corona virus. They know children are

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Speaker 1: at home during quarantine, lockdown, curfew, and they're using that

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Speaker 1: with it? And how do the bust go down? Bitsy Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Take

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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Julie Carry It. C four Washington News.

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Speaker 1: Thirty men accused of trying to sexually exploit children online.

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Speaker 1: Fairfax County Police often run undercover operations at times kids

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Speaker 1: are home for holiday or spring break. Detectives pose online

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Speaker 1: very disappointing, disheartening. Major Edel Carroll says the arrest should

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Speaker 1: send a clear signal to parents. They need to be

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Speaker 1: especially vigilant now about monitoring their kids online activity. But

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Speaker 1: parents need to know the platforms be proactive. The National

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Speaker 1: Center for Missing and Exploited Children ready to help with

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Speaker 1: an online series of videos aimed at elementary age kids.

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Speaker 1: Eliza McCoy works on outreach and prevention there. We've certainly

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Speaker 1: seen an increase in reports of online exploitation of children. Guys, again,

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Speaker 1: you were just hearing from NBC four Washington. This is

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest busts of online pedophiles, sex predators

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Speaker 1: during coronavirus curfews, lockdown's quarantines, and they are using it

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Speaker 1: to their advantage. It's like the lion sneaking up or

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Speaker 1: special guest Alicia Kozakowitz, survivor of an online predator that

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Speaker 1: miraculously saved. You can find her at Alicia Kozak Kozak

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Speaker 1: dot com, Tausiana Jordan CMO, Chief Marketing Officer, Chief Parenting

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Speaker 1: Officer at bark I. Let her explain what that is.

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Speaker 1: It's a way to protect your children. We have it.

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Speaker 1: Detective rich with Stocky at Bishare Consulting dot com. Derek Ellington,

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Speaker 1: Psychoanalyst to the Stars. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us from

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Speaker 1: LA She's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. But first

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Speaker 1: to Nicole Parton, investigative reporter, joining me from Crime online

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Speaker 1: Thirty alleged pedophiles arrested in just one Virginia county in

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Speaker 1: this undercover investigation they're calling Operation COVID Crackdown. Fairfax County

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Speaker 1: Police arrested thirty men ages twenty. Okay, Nicole, Nicole, Nicole,

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Speaker 1: you know this like the back of your hand. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Slow it down, sister, start over, Nicole. Are you still

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Speaker 1: Now I found seven similar transactions. One was his first

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Speaker 1: new investigation. Documents show Jenkins used Facebook to communicate with

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Speaker 1: It was an operation set up to help protect children

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Speaker 1: now to Tassiana Jordan, the CMO chief Marketing Officer and

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Speaker 1: parenting officer for Bark. First of all, Tassiana, what is Bark? Nancy,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me and for highlighting

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Speaker 1: Tassiana Jordan. What it does is it monitors all your

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Speaker 1: I'm using it. For instance, they pick up any curse

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Speaker 1: but they have a video game, an Xbox with a

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Speaker 1: camera with a headset connected to the internet where they

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Speaker 1: can talk. And the other point, one other point, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: is that we always have that saying about its sense

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Speaker 1: of how you say it, and what makes our children

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Speaker 1: so vulnerable nowadays is that because most of their conversations

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Speaker 1: are digital, they lose that body language. They lose that

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Speaker 1: ability to see someone's vibe, to be able to judge someone.

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Speaker 1: And you know, for a lot of our children, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they could see what these pedophiles look like, if

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Speaker 1: they could experience them face to face, then obviously well

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Speaker 1: to experiences crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation. In serious

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Speaker 1: X one eleven. In the last days, a massive bust

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Speaker 1: of thirty pedophiles. It's called Operation COVID Crackdown. And it's

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Speaker 1: just in one small area, thirty guys in just a

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Speaker 1: couple of days. And that was one police force working

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Speaker 1: in Fairfax County. So what's happening in your backyard and

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Speaker 1: your home on your child's screen, Guys, I want you

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Speaker 1: to take a listen now to Crime online dot Com

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter Dave mac Thirty men arrested in northern Virginia

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Speaker 1: charged with trolling the Internet US at sex from miners.

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Speaker 1: The arrest where the result of a sting operation called

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Speaker 1: Operation COVID Crackdown, the intent to nab predators exploiting children's

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Speaker 1: increase online presence due to school closures and stay at

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Speaker 1: home orders to combat the coronavirus. The men arrested went

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Speaker 1: online to initiate explicit conversations and solicit sex, but the

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Speaker 1: children they thought they were talking to were actually police

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Speaker 1: officers posing as children. Each of the suspects agreed to

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Speaker 1: meet their targets in person at specified locations. Detectives arrested

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Speaker 1: the men when they showed up. The men ranged in

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Speaker 1: age from twenty to seventy four. Most live in Northern Virginia,

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Speaker 1: but some came from Maryland, West Virginia, and DC. All together,

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Speaker 1: they're facing a combined sixty eight felonies. Sixty eight felonies.

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Speaker 1: Their photos and names are posted at crime online dot com.

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Speaker 1: Now let's go to CBS five Arizona newsreporter Emma Lockheart.

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Speaker 1: While in isolation, there are still dangers lurking behind the

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Speaker 1: computer and phone screen. These people and quarantine too, so

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Speaker 1: there are quite a few. There is a lot more

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Speaker 1: predators online now than there would have been pre quarantine.

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Speaker 1: Detective Scott Peatrack with the MESA Police Department says, now

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Speaker 1: more than ever, parents need to be on high alert.

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Speaker 1: They need to get in their kids business, do spot

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Speaker 1: texts on their phones, know who they're talking to, know

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Speaker 1: what kind of social media apps they're using. Peatrack recommends

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Speaker 1: having an open conversation with your children about how to

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Speaker 1: stay safe. That's the very first thing right there, is

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Speaker 1: having the conversation with the kids and letting them know

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Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be given out personal information, you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be sending out pictures. Glendale mother of three Jennifer Marston

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Speaker 1: Tanovic is well aware of the dangers out there in

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Speaker 1: her home. Monitoring her children's activity goes without saying. For

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Speaker 1: anything that involves the computer, we try to have it

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Speaker 1: in an open area where it can be viewed by

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Speaker 1: the rest of our family at any time. The officers

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Speaker 1: at Fairfax County Police found pedophiles starting quote explicit conversation

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Speaker 1: with children online then trying to quote initiate sex with them,

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Speaker 1: and we are getting that directly from the arrest warrants.

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Speaker 1: The alleged pedophiles, all men age twenty to seventy four,

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Speaker 1: were arrested at locations where they had actually agreed to

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Speaker 1: meet the children. And any lawyer can explain that you

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Speaker 1: can say anything almost anything anyway online, but the overt act,

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Speaker 1: as it is called in the law, the next step,

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Speaker 1: the one step makes this a felony. They not only

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Speaker 1: lure the children online, they have explicit sexual conversations with

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Speaker 1: them online, but they get in their vehicle or in

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Speaker 1: the case I showed, you walk three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: miles to get to the target child in order to

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Speaker 1: have sex with them. And the reality is Alicia Koza

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Speaker 1: Kevich joining me from Alicia Kozak dot com. Way in, Alicia,

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Speaker 1: I mean you were held by a choke caller in

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Speaker 1: a dungeon, by a pedophile, but you miraculously lived way

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Speaker 1: in Well, what's true that statistically children in a stranger

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Speaker 1: abduction are murdered within the first three hours, so the

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Speaker 1: clock is really kicking and every second count. In my case,

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Speaker 1: people often ask me, did you think that he was

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Speaker 1: going to kill you? And it wasn't a question of if,

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Speaker 1: it was a question of when. So my goal was

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Speaker 1: to stay alive long enough to be rescued. And in

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Speaker 1: these cases, it's interesting because people go off of what

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Speaker 1: they've seen in movies that Okay, maybe you've been blindfolded

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Speaker 1: and this person will drop you off underneath the bridge

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Speaker 1: and you won't go to the cops, and that this

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Speaker 1: all plays them to do it all they have to

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Speaker 1: go on is movie and televisions, and the fact is

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Speaker 1: that this person is left with really no other option

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Speaker 1: than to dispose of the child. Guys, I'm taking a

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Speaker 1: look at what the cops did. All thirty of these pedophiles.

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Speaker 1: Alleged pedophiles face more than one count of solicitation of

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Speaker 1: a minor and so much more. I'm looking at major

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Speaker 1: Ed Carroll, the commander of Major Crime Zubureau for the department, said,

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Speaker 1: our detectives have remained vigilant and they recognize the increased

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Speaker 1: threat to Nicole parton joining US Crime online dot Com

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole. What is Carrol referring to? See? It's

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Speaker 1: estimated that fifty million children in the United States are

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Speaker 1: home from school right now because of COVID nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: most of those fifty million children, like my children, like yours,

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Speaker 1: they're taking online school class. So more time online means

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Speaker 1: more time they can put two of these pedophiles. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen now, guys to our francs at Khou eleven

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Speaker 1: Melissa Korea. Video games these days come with a chat

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Speaker 1: room feature, and while there are versions of games just

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Speaker 1: for kids, YouTube reminds US adults can easily sneak in.

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Speaker 1: They'll start developing their own relationships with those kids there.

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Speaker 1: They'll go on there, they'll start talking to them, They'll

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Speaker 1: pretend to be children themselves. Sergeant Louiseman and this Sierra

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Speaker 1: investigates online child sex crimes. Houston Police are tracking a

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Speaker 1: two hundred percent increase in cybertips within the last three years.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those new cases start, Hey, how are you,

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Speaker 1: what's your name? Where do you live? With a simple chat,

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Speaker 1: Hey do you play often? What games you'd like to play?

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Speaker 1: And then it leads to hey, do you have a girlfriend?

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Speaker 1: Oh no? Or yes you know? Oh you don't. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you? Do you have another device where we can talk,

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Speaker 1: or another platform where we can talk and share pictures. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to see what you look like? And then

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Speaker 1: next thing, you know, there's an appropriate picture exchange. And

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Speaker 1: that's where it just barrels her to control. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just striking fear in my heart when I hear that.

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Speaker 1: Guys in this last bus, a massive bus, thirty pad

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Speaker 1: of hiles. They were snagged, but how many have slipped

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Speaker 1: through our fingers? Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off goodbye friend,