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Speaker 1: which is Victor Webman Yama dropping forty on twenty one

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Speaker 1: or the day before stories. The story is that, as

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Speaker 1: you've heard all day long, Chnce Phillips, Terry Rozier among

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Speaker 1: like thirty people arrested by the FBI. I don't do

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Speaker 1: I think the headlines are interesting. Yes, I actually think

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Speaker 1: some of the details in some of these stories are

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Speaker 1: more interesting than like, I don't know what Chauncey Billups did.

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Speaker 1: I know Chauncey. I played basketball with him when we

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Speaker 1: remained friendly, but we're not like boys. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I'm distancing myself. I'm just saying I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what he did. Terry Rozier obviously a lot of that,

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Speaker 1: but the details are really interesting. First, we play a

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Speaker 1: couple things for you. Here's Cash Pttel, who's the FBI's director,

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Speaker 1: at a press conference.

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Speaker 2: Ruler Today, individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and

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Speaker 2: Terry Rozier were taken into custody today former current NBA

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Speaker 2: players and coaches. What you don't know is that this

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Speaker 2: is an illegal gambling operation. And sports rigging operation that

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Speaker 2: spanned the course of years. The FBI led a coordinative

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Speaker 2: takedown across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals today

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Speaker 2: responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing. Not

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Speaker 2: only did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators

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Speaker 2: also entered and executed a system of justice against La

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Speaker 2: Casinosha to include the Bonano, Gambino, Genevesi, and Luchase crime families.

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Speaker 1: I do wish he went Italian pronunciation right, Like somewhere

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Speaker 1: back there there's going like, hey, it's a lutey the

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Speaker 1: it's the Luciano. Good like this dick can't pronounce nothing already,

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Speaker 1: I thought, buyer when I read this that Billips and

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Speaker 1: Damon Jones, they're accused of using their celebrity to lure

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Speaker 1: by the mafia. The mafia allegedly, this is my favorite

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Speaker 1: mafia used extortion and violence to make sure they paid

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Speaker 1: their gambling debts. Noicella said. Investigators found the scheme involved

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Speaker 1: And then the idea that that Terry Rogier told a

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Speaker 3: But I was shocked by Chauncey Billups. So now I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to put anything past anybody in talking about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Chase. But what most intrigues you about these stories.

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Speaker 4: Just the line that you had read about the extortion

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Speaker 4: and these prop bets, when they get leveraged, when they

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Speaker 4: the problem is when these when these types of people

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Speaker 5: Think about it. You get mad at these dudes like

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Speaker 5: But some people probably think like that. They come from

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Speaker 4: I just think Adam Silver should be like stunned by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Oh hey, wait, what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 1: That's right, the NCAA approved the ability for coaches like

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Speaker 1: myself and for student athletes to gamble on professional sports.

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Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting the sports gambling aspect to it,

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Speaker 1: which is like we it's like we try and avoid

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Speaker 1: the human nature of it. Jason, you and I we've

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Speaker 1: all seen this coming. And and the gambling companies, by

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and lie to you

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Speaker 1: tell you that we're the only reason we still exist

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Speaker 1: is because of gambling. Right, the reason the NFL is

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Speaker 1: it is a drug, okay, and people cannot control it.

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Speaker 1: Just like there's a percentage of people that I can

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Speaker 1: there's no licensing for it, there's no training course for it.

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna lose money. That's how it works. It's

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Speaker 1: But yeah, people will do evil things to not get exposed,

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Speaker 1: And once you once you pick up that phone, once

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Dan, It's funny because and I'm even looking

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Speaker 3: Think how crappy is your investigation? Then now if you

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Speaker 3: found no wrongdoing, But now the FBI is like, uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Terry Rosier numbers, which is my point. I think when

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Speaker 3: gambling became illegal or became legal, we thought I thought,

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Speaker 3: I think other people think this way that it's all right,

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Speaker 3: you're picking the Knicks to beat the Calves, and if

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Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell throws away a basketball late, oh maybe that's

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Speaker 3: him fixing the game. But the fact that there are

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Speaker 3: I'll I had this conversation within the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: The big news of the day, continuingly breaking, is more

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. We've been actually talking

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Speaker 9: And that's there're no dominant There's no one even close

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Speaker 8: so what exactly so you intimated that?

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, perfect, do you have that? You have that

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Speaker 1: cut for me real quick?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, it's a Ryan Smith. We'll get it

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Speaker 1: for us. Yeah. He he legitimately said, you know, I'm

435
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Speaker 1: not like I think. He said, I'm not the tallest

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Speaker 1: guy in the world.

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Speaker 8: I can't see six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he might not be that big whatever.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 1: But it didn't come across as like self deprecating and

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Speaker 1: playing it off. It came across like very very matter

442
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Speaker 1: of fact, and I mean this, this whole thing has

443
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Speaker 1: gone so bad in such a hurry. And then they're

444
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Speaker 1: gonna throw him back out there because not like there's

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Speaker 1: anybody behind him. No, I McDaniel doesn't save his job,

446
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Speaker 1: but is two of their next year.

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Speaker 9: Well, here's here's the problem. So here's the problem in

448
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Speaker 9: trading him. Hey, you gotta want the player. He's got

449
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Speaker 9: a big injury history. You know about the concussions. Right,

450
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Speaker 9: all of his cash next year is fully guaranteed. The

451
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Speaker 9: the fifty five millions fully guaranteed. Okay, that's that's just

452
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Speaker 9: the way it is. You're you're you're not getting out

453
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Speaker 9: of the contract if you're Miami. Now it's Chris Greer

454
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Speaker 9: going to be there, the general manager who has never

455
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Speaker 9: really gotten right on the offensive line. He made the

456
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Speaker 9: big trade for Tyreek Kill, who may not play for them. Again,

457
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Speaker 9: Juris announciation said he'll be able to play next season,

458
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Speaker 9: but it's a question of well mimiking get out of

459
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Speaker 9: the contract fairly easily. So that might be Tyreek Hill's

460
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Speaker 9: last down that he had. Unfortunately the season for them

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Speaker 9: with his major injury. It's just to uh, to is

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Speaker 9: kind of like you like him if you really liked

463
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Speaker 9: him for the draft, Like he's very up and down

464
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Speaker 9: when he's on. When he gets over the ball quickly,

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Speaker 9: he's could be very good.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 9: But that was one, you know, the the justin Justin

468
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Speaker 9: Herbert decision. That's one that look, Herbert's a better passer now.

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Speaker 9: I know he has not been as good as maybe

470
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Speaker 9: the hype would would tell you. But when getting back

471
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Speaker 9: to Tuah, they're just an absolute mess as you set

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Speaker 9: it up offensive lines. Of problem defense is they're terrible

473
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Speaker 9: corner some injuries, but they don't have a lot of

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Speaker 9: good players on defense. It's just and and then they

475
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Speaker 9: made they they had some contract extensions which have not

476
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Speaker 9: worked out at all, which were mistakes. They're just a

477
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Speaker 9: very bad football team. It starts with too many bad

478
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Speaker 9: personnel decisions. The head coach looks beliguered and we had

479
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Speaker 9: a mercy firing. As one league sort of said with

480
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Speaker 9: Brian Callaghan, that means when everybody knows it has to happen,

481
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Speaker 9: they just do it for the sake of everybody. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: you know, I don't wish Mike McDaniel bad, but it's

483
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Speaker 9: looking pretty bad right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does not, it's awful. It just does not

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Speaker 1: look good. Uh, Raiders, Gino Smith, that thing has gone bad,

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Speaker 1: oh bad. In a hurry, I would like to hey,

487
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Speaker 1: Jay Sduke, would do you have my back in this one?

488
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Speaker 1: I called that one before everybody everybody else fight. I

489
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Speaker 1: was like, I've been watching him. He wasn't good in

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Speaker 1: Seattle and my expectation.

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Speaker 8: We faded last year. Yeah, he faded he did.

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Speaker 1: What What are I mean? Like? Crazier things have happened

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Speaker 1: than the Raiders keeping a coach for one year. But

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll isn't under pressure, is he?

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Speaker 8: No? No?

496
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Speaker 9: But here's the problem, Okay, and why they haven't benched,

497
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Speaker 9: Gino Smith, I'll give you forty million reasons why? Yeah, okay,

498
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Speaker 9: forty million total cash that they own. They can't get

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Speaker 9: out of that.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 8: Next year.

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Speaker 9: What they'll do is if they want to benching him,

503
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Speaker 9: and or it continues to be obviously that he needs

504
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Speaker 9: to be benched and won't be back next season.

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Speaker 8: They other trade. It'll be tough to trade him.

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Speaker 9: He's a twenty six point five million next season, but

507
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Speaker 9: they'll cut him before all his money becomes fully guaranteed

508
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Speaker 9: in the middle of March.

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Speaker 8: So it's been a disaster. Now he's back with Pete.

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Speaker 9: And you have to remember is that he started off

511
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Speaker 9: his career terribly with the Jets. He worked his way

512
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Speaker 9: up with the Seahawks as their back, then their starter,

513
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Speaker 9: where he became the most improved quarterback in the National

514
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Speaker 9: FOOTB League one year. It looked like a great story,

515
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Speaker 9: but it started last week. He was kind of moving

516
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Speaker 9: when he should move, and you were starting to wonder, Okay,

517
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Speaker 9: what's going on here. So the Raiders, because of Pete Carroll,

518
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Speaker 9: they wanted them. Okay, that's fine. They sign him to

519
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 9: a two year deal, but they can get out after

520
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Speaker 9: year one. But the problem is the money in your

521
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 9: won is so significant. It's just it's not working out.

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Speaker 9: And it's funny because if the sports books felt that

523
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Speaker 9: because of Pete Carroll, you've see him with Jim Harball

524
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Speaker 9: and other coaches who are older who come in and

525
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Speaker 9: they turn things around. This is a team that a

526
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Speaker 9: lot of people felt could make. They'd be like eight

527
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Speaker 9: or nine wins. They're not now. They did beat shockingly

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Speaker 9: the Patriots in Week one, and that that's stunned me.

529
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Speaker 9: But look at the Patriots since then, another team that

530
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Speaker 9: nobody got wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's weak. It's week one, we exactly one can't.

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Speaker 8: Wild Yeah, you just can't take it out. I'm with

533
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Speaker 8: you there, You're right, you can.

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Speaker 1: Okay. What about the Jets? That was a weird one.

535
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Speaker 1: Like Woody Johnson comes out fully supports Aaron Glenn, uh,

536
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Speaker 1: but then says, hey, if our quarterback could just complete

537
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Speaker 1: a pass. But these are the same guys that signed

538
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Speaker 1: off on forty million dollars to Justin Fields.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Doug, here's the thing, and no owner. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's funny.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 9: A Jet source told me that wood he had been

543
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Speaker 9: really good behind the scenes over the summer and he

544
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Speaker 9: and really when this new regime came in with Aaron

545
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 9: Glenn and so forth, he pledged himself to do things

546
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Speaker 9: the right way.

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Speaker 8: But there's absolutely no reason for him.

548
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Speaker 9: At this followners means to pipe off about Justin Fields, who,

549
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Speaker 9: by the way, not only this season is he making

550
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Speaker 9: twenty million ten million of his twenty million dollars next

551
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Speaker 9: seasons fully guaranteed, they'll have to pay him mat or

552
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Speaker 9: it's even if he signed somewhere else, we'll be on

553
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 9: the hook for ten million, no matter what. Stupid that

554
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 9: they did, a bad contract.

555
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Speaker 8: They should have.

556
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Speaker 9: Known better, just Fields. It has never been a consistent quarterback.

557
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Speaker 9: They're an absolute train racket. Now Glenn's going to make

558
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 9: it for the season. The questions will we make it

559
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 9: to you too? As much as they love him in

560
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 9: that building, when you're not competitive, sometimes you don't get

561
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Speaker 9: that second year.

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Speaker 1: I know it, I know it. But the owner did

563
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Speaker 1: put all of his support. I mean that was pretty

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Speaker 1: obvious for this season.

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Speaker 9: Though not we'll see. Well, look if they're one in

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Speaker 9: fifteen and it what are you? John said, I know

567
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Speaker 9: it'll be his call and you could see he could

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Speaker 9: say whatever he wants. But what he's also in social

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Speaker 9: media unfortunately, as Jetsir has told me, he looks.

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Speaker 8: At that stuff that's out there. He shouldn't, but he does.

571
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Speaker 8: Telling you he does, you should not.

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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Gotlib show. You're listening to Fox

573
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, are we willing to admit that maybe Jerry

574
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Speaker 1: got it right with his coaching hire.

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Speaker 9: Well, okay, here here's what I told. Okay, I have

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Speaker 9: no horse in the race, so to speak out. I've

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Speaker 9: met Schottenheimer, I've talked him before. I don't know him.

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Speaker 9: But let's be careful. Okay, let's be careful. Okay, they're

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Speaker 9: three to three and one. Now that that Packer game

580
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 9: they had was the best game of the year. That

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Speaker 9: was unbelievable. Like that game from the beginning end was great,

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Speaker 9: Unlike the Denver game where Denver didn't score thirty any

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Speaker 9: points through.

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Speaker 8: Three quarters and scored thirty three, which is crazy.

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Speaker 9: But the thing that I know about Shotty talking to the Seahawks,

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Speaker 9: so he comes in right, and you speaking of Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 9: he was brought in at coach Russell Wilson hard in

588
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty with the Seahawks, right, and he believes in

589
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Speaker 9: analytical data. He believes in throwing early and running late.

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Speaker 9: So Russell Wilson was phenomenal. Russell Wilson in twenty passing

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Speaker 9: touchdowns in eight games.

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Speaker 10: He was.

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Speaker 9: You extrapolated, he could have had an NFL record for

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Speaker 9: most touchdown passes in a season. But you Pete Carroll

595
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Speaker 9: took over. He said, enough of this, we got to

596
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Speaker 9: run the football. The rest is history. And then Shotty

597
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 9: got fired for the season. Now you fast forward to now,

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Speaker 9: I mean Dak Prescott is on fire. We don't give

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Speaker 9: out MVP awards after seven weeks. He looks great. Their

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Speaker 9: offense is unstopped. One don't forget they did a lot

601
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Speaker 9: of this without Ceedee Lamb. But their defense, Dug is

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Speaker 9: not competitive. No, it's embarrassing. How bad they're it's terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 1: I get it. But but like you said, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, Dan Buyer said the same thing, people forget

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Speaker 1: how good he was in Seattle. I honestly think I

606
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Speaker 1: think it's as much as last name more than anything.

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00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: Because his dad, who was a great coach but didn't

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Speaker 1: win the playoffs. Sure, and then he's the Sun. People

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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: think nepotism whatever, even though they're very different people style wise,

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Speaker 1: is something that damaged him. Hey, you're the best, cap,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Look forward to talking next week.

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Speaker 8: So good. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 7: I mean, y'all'm a crossing up lively behind me back

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Speaker 7: Victor for three.

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Speaker 3: We win the foul Dector and Benyama stirring the drink

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Speaker 3: that tastes so good here tonight.

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Speaker 1: Victor Womama. That's I mean, he was amazing last night.

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Speaker 1: You were like wow, Wow, Wow. Let's get to Dampire

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Speaker 1: with the game.

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Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: All right, Doug, the game on this Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Is is I feel a draft lead.

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Speaker 3: You Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith drafting today, not in that order.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you that in a second. The World Series

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Speaker 3: that you remember the most most memorable world series to.

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Speaker 1: You Okay, what's the order?

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Speaker 3: Jason picks first? Ryan a second, Doug your third, I'm fourth,

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Speaker 3: and then we reverse it for the second round. All right, Jason,

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Speaker 3: you're on the clock. It'd be easy for me to

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Speaker 3: pick the most recent one, but I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 3: to nineteen eighty eight led by Kurt Gibson and Oral

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Speaker 3: Hersheiser Mickey Hatcher, Dodgers over the A's the vaunt to

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Speaker 3: Day's in five games. I think he stole the pick

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Speaker 3: of the second overall pick? Is that true? Ryan Smith?

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Speaker 3: Were you about to take nineteen eighty eight number one?

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Speaker 10: I was, but something popped in my head and I

647
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 10: cannot believe I forgot this. My late father, God rest

648
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 10: his soul, was also a Dodger fan. He actually converted

649
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 10: me to be a Dodger fan, and before he.

650
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Passed away, he transitioned.

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Speaker 10: The Dodgers won the World Series, all right, really cool

652
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 10: in the bubble, and I got to share that moment

653
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 10: with my father, and that's that's something I will never forget.

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Speaker 1: Big time.

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Speaker 4: It's a good one.

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00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah good, it's a real good pick.

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00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: All right, Doug.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, I've been I moved to Southern California,

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00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. My dad was a lifelong Mets fan,

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00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: so in eighty six I thought, for sure, Angels are

661
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: going to play the Mets. Right I was ten years old,

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00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: I sent into a little lottery. I had tickets for

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00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Game one of the World Series and Donny Moore gets

664
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: up a home run ball rip and it doesn't work

665
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: out for the Angels. The Red Sox go on to

666
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Bill Buckner have the ball go through his legs for

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00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: the Mets to win the World Series. Fast forward to

668
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and two and the Angels get the World

669
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: Series against Barry Bonds, Dusty Baker and San Francisco Giants

670
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: Game seven. I also had a ticket, but I was

671
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: playing for my dad in just right about now, right,

672
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: And do you remember the those tour teams that they

673
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: used to because he used to be like Athletes in

674
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: Action and Marathon Oil or whatever. And then it started

675
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: being European professional teams and then it was former college players,

676
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot of them on EA Sports teams. I played

677
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: on one of those as well, my dad's AU program.

678
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: He had relationships. We would play like nine games in

679
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: a year. So we were getting ready to play UCLA

680
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: and we had practice at Ocean View High School and

681
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: my dad Angels Game seven. He's like, you know the rules,

682
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: you want to play, you got to come to practice.

683
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I've run these plays since I was

684
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: in eighth grade. Like I'm I think I'm good here.

685
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: So we missed some of the game, watched the end

686
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: of it at home. And to watch your hometown team,

687
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: a team you and as since has been obviously a

688
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: struggle win a world series was pretty amazing.

689
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: Two thousand and two is the answer, John Lackey.

690
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: Sure, Troy Percival right where he looked like I can't

691
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: really see where I'm throwing it right, and then he

692
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: just throw five are in there.

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00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great series, really was. I was

694
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: actually pulling for the Giants. I don't have any you know,

695
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: favoritism towards either team, but for some reason, I was

696
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: pulling for the Giants in that one, and they came

697
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: up short. Doug's Angels win it, all right. I got

698
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: two picks here. I remember when the Brewers made it

699
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty two. But what I really remember, and

700
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: this ties into gambling, is in nineteen eighty three, my

701
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 3: neighbor got our house in a numbers pool. So it

702
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: was Orioles Phillies in that World Series, and I remembered

703
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: it the next year when it was Tiger's Padres in

704
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: eighty four the numbers for the World Series. So I

705
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 3: am going to put the nineteen eighty three World Series

706
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: between the Orioles and Phillies just for that reason. You

707
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: know where you're like, Okay, I've got nine and six, right,

708
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: the game ends nine and six, you win the neighborhood pool.

709
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: Fitting today for a gambling day, And I'm going to

710
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: give you one that probably nobody remembers or wants to remember.

711
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: And oddly enough, it involves the Phillies again. But two

712
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, because I covered that World Series between

713
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: the Rays and Phillies, and the game five that the

714
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: Phillies clinched was a called game. They called the game

715
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: in the sixth inning because of rain. They couldn't resume

716
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: it the next day because of rain in Philadelphia, so

717
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: we had to stick around in Philly, and then they

718
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: played it the day after that started the game in

719
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: the sixth inning, bottom of the sixth inning, and it

720
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: was the quicket. It was so odd, but it was

721
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: so fun. Two thousand and eight Phillies beat the Rays

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00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: in five games.

723
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 4: But Dan, I thought it was always sunny in Philadelphia,

724
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: just not those days, not those days.

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00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm gonna go the twenty eleven World Series, right.

726
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: The twy eleven World Series went seven games, Rangers Cardinals.

727
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: If you remember, Game six was as epic a World

728
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: Series game as you're ever gonna find. David Freeze not

729
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: once but twice on the two strikes on him, two

730
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: strikes on him. Say the day became the World Series

731
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: MVP and as powerful as as this, watch your hometown

732
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: team win a World series, to watch one of your friends,

733
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Matt Holliday, watch him win a World Series and he

734
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: was hurt and get to play in game seven, kind

735
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: of screwed up in game six when he got hurt.

736
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: Pretty awesome stuff. Cardinals win the World Series twenty eleven,

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00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: that's my answer.

738
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: All right, Ryan, real quick.

739
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 10: When the Blue Jays went back to back against the

740
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 10: aga'st the Phillies, when Joe Carter hit that walk off

741
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 10: home run, and just I remember it because the look

742
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 10: of just pain and despair on the Philly fans and

743
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 10: the Philly players just make to this day make me

744
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 10: makes me laugh so I'll never forget that World Series.

745
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: Jason Last twenty seventeen. Why are the Astros looking like

746
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: they know every pitch?

747
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 8: Ten?

748
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: And Kershaw is throwing in Game five in Houston twenty seventeen.

749
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 8: You got a wrap, We.

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00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: Got five stug out lap show here on Fox Sports,

751
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: Tred don't come, No gotta coming back Thursdays. Next throw back,

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00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: throw Back, throw Back, Sobek