WEBVTT - How the Maori Work

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the all New Toyota Corolla. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is stuff you should know the podcast. Jerry with her

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<v Speaker 1>face tattoos, fipster Maory wanna be Mariya thoughts Maori Maori? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just looked at the pronunciation. I was sure Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>was right because he picked this article. But it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like mayori. It seems like that should be an acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>pronunciation as well. I know, and you know we have

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<v Speaker 1>lots of quiet fans. They're in New Zealand. Hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this is for you. And if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>from New Zealand all the other ones, you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>listening to just this one. Uh, if you're not from

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand, then I think you'll enjoyed anyway, because um,

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous tribes are interesting. Plus those of you outside New

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<v Speaker 1>Zealand won't know how much stuff we got wrong. That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So chuckers, yes, were you familiar with the Maori ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time? Did you know most of this stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>this article. No, I had seen the movie Once We're Warriors,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was my introduction to them. Is that right

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<v Speaker 1>many years ago? Yeah, that was the one that won

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of Academy awards, right, or I'm thinking a

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<v Speaker 1>Whale Rider, You're thinking a Whale Rider? But um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Once We're Warriors is not I feel good movie. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a documentary, No, it's a it's um just a

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<v Speaker 1>regular narrative feature. But it's uh, it shows sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the dark side of the modern Maori, with like propensities

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<v Speaker 1>for violence and crime and alcoholism. So basically it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess anyone who hears the story in the US

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<v Speaker 1>will be like this sounds familiar. An indigenous group pushed

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<v Speaker 1>around and completely obliterated by uh Europeans. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>later on perhaps suffering from alcoholism and and further marginalization,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hang onto a culture that is not well,

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<v Speaker 1>it exists. But I don't want to spoil anything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, okay, So my my, uh, the extent that

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<v Speaker 1>I came to figure out my awareness of the Maori

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<v Speaker 1>um culture, it's my familiarity with Mike Tyson's face tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>and Um, the fact that there's such a thing as

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<v Speaker 1>tribal tattoos and that those are mostly rooted in Maori

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<v Speaker 1>uh tattooing. And in fact, the Maori they didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>come up with tattooing. They're directly descended from the people

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<v Speaker 1>who did. But they had a specific kind of tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>a specific method of tattooing. I should say that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of um gains them the status of the toughest tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>people around, and that they used not needles but chisels

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<v Speaker 1>to do their tattoos, which are called the tomoco. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tom moko two words I think so, No, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's two words of moco is the face tattoo specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>I think right. Um, there's another type of tattoo that's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as um spiritual as well, we'll find out,

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<v Speaker 1>called kiri two hey and um that's kind of more

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<v Speaker 1>like the tribal bands you see around people's arms and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. Yeah. Like, if you're a hipster with

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<v Speaker 1>mocho face tattoos and you're from um, Michigan, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be frowned upon by real Maori people because you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have a moco on your face. No, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have the other one because that's not as sacred, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And the question is do the people who have these

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<v Speaker 1>face tattoos know what you're saying. I don't know. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen these white dudes with it, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're not Maori. Well I was. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking up like Mike Tyson Maori face tattoo, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole slew of articles came up about how he was.

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<v Speaker 1>His visa was canceled before a trip to New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, and was it because he had faced tattoo?

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<v Speaker 1>No criminal past? Which makes sense? Yeah? And I don't his.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think his is amoco. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a face tattoo. Okay, let's get into it, man, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's much more to it than face statoos. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Maori are credited as being the first um settlers

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<v Speaker 1>of New Zealand. The thing is, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>controversy around this. I should say in academic circles, it's

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<v Speaker 1>um typically accepted, widely accepted, and that it's been proven

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<v Speaker 1>that the Maori were the original settlers of New Zealand. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other circles that are like, no, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's evidence that they're not the Maori zone. Oral history

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<v Speaker 1>says that there are people there before them. There's evidence

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<v Speaker 1>here there. But for the most part, if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that in academic circles, you are considered fringe dweller. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So for the most part that the generally accepted ideas

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<v Speaker 1>that the Maori settled New Zealand from Polynesia somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>uh twelve eighty and fourteen fifty. Yeah, and they came

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<v Speaker 1>over on canoes, on ocean canoes that they still used today.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, they supposedly came from a mythical land called Hawaiki.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, these days scholars will say, what that probably

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<v Speaker 1>is is a combo of some real places. Um, Tahiti,

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<v Speaker 1>Samoa in the Cook Islands. Yeah, it's made of tomato exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But they got to New Zealand and they named it

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh Otowa And there's a lot of pronunciations in here.

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<v Speaker 1>We might not get exactly right by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that might be right. Actually, Oh to Rowa, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say the a is silent. I don't think so

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<v Speaker 1>it's capitalized even that means land of the long white cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>right and in other words, it's the Maori name for

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand. Yeah. Um, And we should say that when

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<v Speaker 1>the Maori arrived, they arrived as they didn't describe themselves

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<v Speaker 1>or self describe as Maori until the Europeans came. Before then,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just desparate tribes that were familiar with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>But they settled. Uh. It's believed either in close together

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<v Speaker 1>waves or like pretty much all at once heading out

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<v Speaker 1>from Polynesia, arriving and saying okay, let's go to war.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much. The name means ordinary or common. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were and are tough people, right. And the reason Maori

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<v Speaker 1>means ordinary or common is they're referring to themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>comparison to white Europeans who, right, and their knickers in

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<v Speaker 1>their fancy hats with feathers and the muskets. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's not very ordinary, especially compared to Maori. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>they had a name for them, uh pakeha. Yes, those

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<v Speaker 1>are white Europeans who came colon settlers. Anybody who wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Maori ordinary? Very true? Um. And like we said, they

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<v Speaker 1>were tough, they were very fierce. Um. When they battled

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<v Speaker 1>one of the trophies that they would and you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tribes you'll see do this that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>put the old head on the steak as a trophy.

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<v Speaker 1>Very tough. Um. And then something else we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute is very important to them called mana,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a power or prestige, and uh, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fighting going on when the mana was

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<v Speaker 1>challenged or disrupted basically sort of like, um, you insult me,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna go to go to war, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>all of this was extremely structured. Um. The Maori wars

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<v Speaker 1>were typically held in the fall after the harvest, right

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<v Speaker 1>yeah football season. Yeah. Um, let's a really good analogy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They would use weapons um that were usually clubs. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a short range battle clubs called kaika uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there were clubs that had a cutting edge that

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<v Speaker 1>were called patu. These are the most typical weapons used

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<v Speaker 1>in these battles. And you would get brained and creamed

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<v Speaker 1>and be up to heck. Yeah. But as far as

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<v Speaker 1>loss of life goes compared to firearms, there was there

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<v Speaker 1>were relatively few. Yeah. It sort of reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>the old gang fights back in the day, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you would get together with your chains and your clubs

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<v Speaker 1>and hit each other and fight. Yeah, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>would walk away with your bruises and your scrapes and um,

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of loss of life, right, But the

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<v Speaker 1>the intent was the same. It was the vanquished people

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<v Speaker 1>to get control of their land, to make them move

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<v Speaker 1>to more populated, less fertile areas. Um. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was to gain mana or prestige for your tribe. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything changed once the Europeans came and brought firearms, as

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<v Speaker 1>is the pretty by now familiar narrative for anybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>listened to one of our cultural historical episodes. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting that it follows about the same path all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. You know, the boomstick comes in, the

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<v Speaker 1>white folks come in with the boomstick and the powder,

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<v Speaker 1>the boom powder, and then things change, um. And things

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<v Speaker 1>changed by the Maori gaining access to some of these guns. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says here you know, they would trade things

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<v Speaker 1>like pigs and flax and potatoes. But I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>documentary last night and six, as the documentarian said, was

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<v Speaker 1>the big trading coinage basically what it was six? What

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<v Speaker 1>is that s e x six? He kept saying it though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in that Kiwi accent, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites, by the way. Um. And so they would

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<v Speaker 1>trade when they ran out of other stuff to trade.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a big hot spot for Europeans,

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<v Speaker 1>not even to settle necessarily, but to come by and

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<v Speaker 1>do some trading and stop over. And they would stop

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<v Speaker 1>over and they would sign their women up to like

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<v Speaker 1>three week contracts and trade for one musket. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was a very sexual culture. Like women and this was

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<v Speaker 1>in the hundreds could take like multiple lovers and not

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<v Speaker 1>be looked down upon. And they didn't have the hangups

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<v Speaker 1>that europe did about sex. Yeah, I know, the HMS

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<v Speaker 1>bounty was mutinied because the sailors wanted to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Polynesia. Well, dude, the Maori were down with it

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<v Speaker 1>early on. They didn't have big hang ups, um hang ups.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have sex before you were married and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a big deal. Um. So the sex trade by

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen thirties was the biggest uh money maker in

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand at the musket huh so chuck the when

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<v Speaker 1>the muskets come along um eighteen oh seven is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a seminal year because this is the year when

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<v Speaker 1>the first Maori tribe um got their hands on muskets

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<v Speaker 1>and used them for battle. Yeah. The problem is they

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't practiced quite so much, and so as they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fire and reload and aim, they were vanquished by

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<v Speaker 1>the ie they raided with using traditional clubs and get

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<v Speaker 1>clubbed in the head while they're trying to load a musket.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that some of them started to swinging

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<v Speaker 1>the musket like a big club, which is it makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>especially even out of frustration. And that actually started the

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<v Speaker 1>musket wars. Yeah, because the leader of that tribe said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we these firearms. We shouldn't abandon him yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get some more and we'll trade whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>need to for him, and let's practice this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>hence the musket wars were born. Once they got good,

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<v Speaker 1>they started tearing up the countryside in eighteen fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>just basically said we've got these guns, we're gonna kill you,

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<v Speaker 1>take your land, enslave you, and maybe eat you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they mentioned that a lot of Polynesian tribes they they

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<v Speaker 1>were accused of cannibalism. I don't know if it's true

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Yeah, bears pointing out them, right. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>this first group that got the muskets definitely changed everything

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<v Speaker 1>because now it was kind of like, um, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviets and the Americans, when the Americans had the bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were like, we have to have the bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can't just have one country with the bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't have just one Maori tribe with firearms. Other

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<v Speaker 1>groups were forced to adopt firearms as well, and hence

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<v Speaker 1>the musket wars got pretty bloody. Yeah, but it became

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<v Speaker 1>the great equalizer. About twenty Maori and New Zealander's died.

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<v Speaker 1>But once everyone had guns, it's sort of calm things

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<v Speaker 1>down in a weird way. Yeah. Well, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>mutual usured destruction exactly. So before we move on, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a good time for a message break, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's continue. So chuck um. The eighteen thirties, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>two tribes that have been forced off their land by

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<v Speaker 1>other must get using. Maoris um went south. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was south of the Chatham Islands. Yeah. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to basically find a better place to live where all

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<v Speaker 1>this war wasn't going on. But they found the Moriory

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<v Speaker 1>people and that's right, but what's one more war? Exactly

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<v Speaker 1>because they were a peaceful people and they were like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these people are here, let's figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>to do with them. And they said kill them, kill

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<v Speaker 1>them basically, Yeah, that's what they did. They killed them,

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<v Speaker 1>thrust them into slavery, and then um basically took over

0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Chatham Island and now it was a Maori island, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So one genocide, that goot another genocide, that's right. So

0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the Maori are like pretty well established by this time,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're kind of hanging onto their cultural lives um,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything kind of hinged on a rumor. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was a factual rumor or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>come eighteen thirty five there was a rumor that France

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<v Speaker 1>was going to try to annex New Zealand. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>previous previous day, eighteen forty they were pretty welcoming of

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<v Speaker 1>the Europeans, like they are of trading with them. They

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<v Speaker 1>got along pretty well. Even this guy in the documentary

0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that said six said that they were you know, they

0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.520
<v Speaker 1>got pretty friendly and they said, you know, come here,

0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.920
<v Speaker 1>route down will be trade partners and we all got

0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.480
<v Speaker 1>along great. But like you said in thirty five, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when France started, or at least there the Maori's point

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<v Speaker 1>of view was France was trying to get their little

0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.400
<v Speaker 1>French hooks in them, right and good. By this time,

0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the Maori had a pretty good idea that they were

0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>in trouble. They were losing their numbers, which they think

0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:35.040
<v Speaker 1>hit about a hundred thousand before contact with Europeans, um

0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to not just the Musket Wars, but also disease introduced

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:44.840
<v Speaker 1>by Europeans and familiar thing um. So they they decided

0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to allie themselves. In the face of this rumor that

0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>France um was gonna annex New Zealand, they decided to

0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.880
<v Speaker 1>allie their lands to the British. And why not at

0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, who else are you gonna go with? Yeah,

0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>they're like, we like your powdered wigs, Yeah you're read, Yeah,

0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like your accent. We can nick that and change it

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<v Speaker 1>around a bit and making our own. And so let's

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<v Speaker 1>sign the Treaty of Watangi. Yes, and uh it was.

0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It was a pretty good contract. At first, they thought,

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<v Speaker 1>um it gave the Marory control over their own land,

0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, so they think, um, until it turns out

0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that the British really said, you know what, we're gonna

0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.880
<v Speaker 1>take a lot of that land. We're gonna tax you

0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and violate the treaty in that way, and um, this

0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.240
<v Speaker 1>ancestral land that's been in your family forever, we're gonna

0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.720
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna just take what we want basically and shuffle

0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you to the side, just like American treaty was going

0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to be broken. So that started the New Zealand Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy in the documentary said, it's sort of again,

0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of like here in America, they weren't really taught

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<v Speaker 1>that so much in school, or they were taught a

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<v Speaker 1>very sanitized version of the New Zealand Wars, when in

0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.520
<v Speaker 1>fact it was thirty years of very bloody, fierce battling

0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:01.080
<v Speaker 1>with the British soldiers in the British government, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>dwindled down to really sad. So at this point, what

0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you have is what would be called an evolutionary bottleneck. Basically, Um,

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a group of population that's in real danger

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<v Speaker 1>of extinction. Um. And I guess what the Marie does say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, the British control New Zealand. We're not going away.

0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.600
<v Speaker 1>We are fierce warriors. Have you seen these tattoos we got? Uh?

0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And the British said again, we are in control of

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand. You just said it yourself. We won't wipe

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<v Speaker 1>you out entirely because hey, it's almost the twentieth century

0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and who does that, right, Um, But we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to anglicize you. And first let's start by creating an alphabet.

0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Which this struck me as weird, right, Marie culture had

0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.440
<v Speaker 1>an oral tradition. They didn't have any written language. They

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<v Speaker 1>had totems basically what amount to totems comparison, um, But

0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have any kind of alphabet or written language.

0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And so European missionaries said about creating one. Rather than

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.520
<v Speaker 1>teaching them just English, like oh, well, here's your written language,

0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they went about creating a Maori written language, which is

0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.680
<v Speaker 1>strange to me, you know, like there's this is the

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Maori experience. It's almost like a condensed version of what

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<v Speaker 1>went on in in North America and in the United States.

0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.960
<v Speaker 1>There's like one treaty. Um, there's some weird aspects to it,

0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>where like missionaries are not just trying to anglicize the groups,

0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.439
<v Speaker 1>they're helping them preserve their culture simultaneously. UM. And I

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>think that that was helped Maori culture survived by taking

0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.159
<v Speaker 1>their royal traditions and writing them down. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say the Maori were helpless in preserving their own

0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:58.000
<v Speaker 1>traditions because as we'll see that everyone's expected to know

0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.920
<v Speaker 1>their own history and to be able to recite it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um. And that that came along in the

0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.240
<v Speaker 1>seventies is when they really started to sort of gain

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.360
<v Speaker 1>more ground in re establishing their culture and claiming their

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.359
<v Speaker 1>culture as their own. Uh. Previous to that, they it

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.399
<v Speaker 1>really dwindled because they they they scattered. Basically they started

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.399
<v Speaker 1>to move to urban areas. Um. After World War Two

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.760
<v Speaker 1>there was a mass migration. Prior to the war lived

0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:31.639
<v Speaker 1>in rural New Zealand and twenty years later lived in

0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.199
<v Speaker 1>urban areas. So I mean that's when you moved the

0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.439
<v Speaker 1>tribe from their native land. You take their land and

0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 1>they moved to the big city. It just the culture

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.959
<v Speaker 1>is just gonna go away. Well, it gets diluted, especially

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.479
<v Speaker 1>in the face of the government. Um. The official language

0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of New Zealand was English. Yeah, they tried their best

0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to stamp it out there. Yeah, there were government schools

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that weren't like they didn't teach anything about myer Maori culture. Yeah.

0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Um so yeah, the the culture was the people were

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.080
<v Speaker 1>still there, but they were losing their culture. And then

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like you said again, uh, analogous to um, North America

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.400
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies saw a an awakening of pride

0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in being a Maori, just like the aim the American

0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Indian Movement was founded in the seventies UM and in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties. By that time about of the Maori

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 1>were actually fluent speakers of their language, which was Terreo

0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Maori was the name of the language. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a big win, it was, but the there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of groundwork that was laid between the seventies and eighties,

0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot of battles that were fought. In one UM,

0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:45.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a the establishment of the Maori Party and political party. UM.

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 1>They sued the government to have Treo Maori, the Maori

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 1>language be officially recognized somehow, and in ninety five UM

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the British were forced to say, yes, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>treasure that we were supposed to protect under the Treaty

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of what Tangy and we didn't, So now we're gonna

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 1>make this one of three official languages in New Zealand. English,

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 1>New Zealand Sign Language and uh Terrayo Maori are now

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<v Speaker 1>the three official languages of New Zealand. Exactly in nineteen

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>seventy five that was the designation of Maori Language Week

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and they opened the first bilingual school in ninety eight.

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 1>So by the time five rolled around, they made it

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<v Speaker 1>an official one of the official languages. Um, like we

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<v Speaker 1>said about we're now speaking it and fluent in it,

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, the British were like, well, we'll

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 1>give you these small things, but what we don't want

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to give you back is your land. But they were

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 1>forced to eventually with the what what Tangi Tribunal in

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen it was It's not h I don't think it

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 1>was um. I don't think they established laws. I think

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it was just like you fill an application out into

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<v Speaker 1>a claim on some land and they'll decide whether or

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 1>not to give it back to your family. And they

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 1>did to a large degree, not all of it though.

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So was it like a European run tribunal that like

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<v Speaker 1>um that indigenous people went and petitioned or was it

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>was it made up of indigenous people, because I got

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the impression that they were like jealously guarded um Maori

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>culture and we're like suing for repatriation of Maori artifacts

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>from other museums. And well, yeah, that definitely happened because

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:36.920
<v Speaker 1>there were you know, Maori trinkets and um heads all

0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:40.439
<v Speaker 1>over the world. And it's still ongoing today. Um, like

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 1>all these reparations are still going on, like people are

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>still getting back their land even here in the twenty

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>one century. So the um the Maori culture kind of

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is vibrant, beaten down, hangs on by a thread and

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>starts to revive. Right. That's right, that's good. That's where

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>we're at. Okay, um, let's talk a little bit about

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.199
<v Speaker 1>their culture again. A lot of it was deluded and

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>lost over time, but there's still like some very robust

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>um fundamentals that are very much alive today. Yeah. They're

0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>very spiritual people, even though they were fierce warriors. Um

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know a lot of the white folks thought

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they were savages. Of course, sounds familiar, like the face

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>tattoos were very much repressed but never went away exactly. Um.

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So they're very spiritual. They believe that um, their ancestors

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and other supernatural beings are always around. UM, their family

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and their ancestry is really really important. Their genealogy, which

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>they called the uh waka papa waka papa. I went

0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with wakapapa waka papa. UM, that's the genealogy of the ancestors.

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Um spiritual and mythological significance and basically your whole spiritual

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 1>existence as a person is told through the wakapapa, and

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the face tattoos will tell that story. That's what that's

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 1>what it means. That's why they're not hip on non

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Maori people getting these things. Yeah, you're insulting like their

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 1>ancestry basically, and they're really protective of this stuff. I

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was reading um about Maori waka papa stories and how

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.919
<v Speaker 1>like if you're like a social services worker, like you're

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily told to ask these questions that would be

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.239
<v Speaker 1>considered part of somebody's wakapapa, Like they'll tell you if

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they trust you. Um. Yeah, and you don't just run

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>around telling just anybody. There's actually some sort of UM.

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe there's a law where Maori will tell the

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>their waka papa to government agencies. But these things have

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to be like explicitly protected, like now that they're being

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.679
<v Speaker 1>put out there on the internet and everything, they need

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to like your protection because these things are sacred. They

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>belong to the individual because that's their history, and since

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't anything before like a written language, speaking it

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 1>out loud is extremely sacred and protected. Yeah. Well, part

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.719
<v Speaker 1>of it too is there. Um. They're really big on

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>learning and changing things that they did wrong, learning from

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>past mistakes. So part of the waka papa is it's

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>not just like some rosy history of their family. It's

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>also the bad because if you understand your past, you

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>can understand your future better. Right, And the point of

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>it is to keep going as far back as you

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>can and usually from from this article they and at

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>about the time your ancestors arrived. Uh so we talked

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>about mana a little bit, the honor in prestige. Um.

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>There are three forms of mana in the culture. It's

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:49.640
<v Speaker 1>one is achieved by birth. So basically what the rank

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of your descendants and your ancestors um the mana given

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>by other people um, which this article says they boiled

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>down to two good deeds, like being recognized for what

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you've done to pat on the back. Yeah, here's your mana. Um,

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and then mana of the group, which is when outsiders

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>visit and if they leave with a good you know,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a review on Yelp for you right or trip Advisor.

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 1>These guys are so welcoming, then that's mana of the

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>group and it's very important to them, you know, they

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>want to have a good uh leave a good impression.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, yeah, there's exactly. Um, you can also

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>be affected by Correo corel. This one's tough, carrero ko

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>r e er oh. Which is the spoken word, um,

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>which is where you're you gain mana by house people

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>speak of you personally. I guess yeah. I think it's

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like mana of the group, but for an individual. Yeah,

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned earlier how they had an oral history.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Um that of course the white Christian missionaries poop pooed.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>They said, now you've got right stuff down, and they said, no,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not just like telling stories here. We actually like

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>historians are trained and uh, their memory is trained to

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>remember everything about the history. So it wasn't just like, hey,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>let's just tell stories about our past. Like historians were

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>revered and very important and and uh acknowledge for their

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like incredible memories. So coming up next, we gotta have

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>a little message break, but we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is one of the coolest things, which

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:36.719
<v Speaker 1>is the hakka dance. That's something big. Huh yeah, well

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>let's let's get back to it, all right, the hakkah dance.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen this? I have? Um. I saw in Budapest,

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>of all places, at a natural history museum there was

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>a like basically a grass outfit and um, like there

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was video of a guy wearing this grass outfit doing

0:26:55.920 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a hackey dance by himself. Yeah, it was like ethnographical footage.

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>See I've never seen it, um with a like a

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>solo dancer. I've usually just seen it as a big group,

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>like a whole tribe. And um, it's really cool, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you should look it up on on the YouTube. H

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<v Speaker 1>A k A um. Very in fact, they're doing it

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<v Speaker 1>in the picture right there, very uh like intimidating. They

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>would do it before battle, and it's kind of scary

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and like when they first get started, before they're even

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>moving in unison, they're just like individually shouting out things

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and sticking out their tongue and their eyes are wide

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and crazy and it's just like it's it would have

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>sent me running for the hills, right, Well, that's what

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I was intended to. Um. And the New Zealand national

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<v Speaker 1>rugby team, the All Blacks, they do a hakka before

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>every rugby game. Yeah, they still do it for They've

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<v Speaker 1>done it for more than a hundred years, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>starting in Yeah, and they got the name the All

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Blacks when they change uniforms to all black uniforms makes sense.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>And um again to intimidate and even watch the rugby

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>team do it, and um, it's pretty cool. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to try it out, but I think

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I would just people laugh at me. Let's let's if

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't intimidate anyone with my hawka, especially if you

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like bulls dr eves and start your tongue out to that,

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I wouldn't have the same effect. Nope, let's talk.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk chuck. The two that is actually from the

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Polynesian word t a t a u ta tao I

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<v Speaker 1>guess and um, which means to mark. Yeah, and they

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we need to do one on the whole tattoo thing.

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>We will um and Like we said, the Maori aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the first to come up with tattoos. You can trace

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>back further in their Polynesian lineage, but they are the

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>ones that use chisels, really sharp chisels, but chisels. Nonetheless, Yeah,

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how that works. It's like you hammer in

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I know how chisel works. But and then you rub

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the pigment. And so basically you take a very sharp

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>chisel and ammer and you make a mark. And then

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>after you've made your marks, you go through and rub

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>a pigment, usually taken from a certain type of caterpillar.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>And then the since you're you've used the chisel instead

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of a needle, there's not only a tattoo, but there's

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>also scarification along where you made that chisel mark. So

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the original Maori tomokos were like they were pretty severe looking.

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>They looked even more like hardcore than a regular That's

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna ask is how like how tight

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was it? You know? I think I have the feeling

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that like this was like considered an art form. Is

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>all right? Well, I know, they, incidentally, um are the

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>ones who introduced color tattoos. UM, even though most of

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the Moco have seen or black, So I don't know

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>if they just don't use color that much. They like,

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen any color money either, but you know

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a rainbow dolphin. And they're like, let's just go back

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to the moco. H Um. Men typically have the moco

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>on their face. Um, but women also have the tattoos

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, they have them on the arms, the thighs,

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the abdomen, and the crotch. Apparently, well, men will have

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>him on the face, buttocks, and thighs and it's detailed

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff like I'm sure you've seen it before, um, but

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>if not, look it up right now, because it's not

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like Mike Dyson, right, well, I mean it's there. It's

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>supposed to depict the waka papa, like each swirl and

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>symbol has like a real meaning that has to do

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>with the person's genealogy. That's right, it's pretty cool. Um.

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And then again we said that there's another kind of

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>tattoo that's not quite as intricate that's called the um

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>what is it called the kira tuohy? Yeah, yeah, which

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is just fun to say. And I think that won't

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>offend and and I think the impression that I have

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is Maori culture from this resurgence of Maori pride in

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and the revival of the culture, and say

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like taking steps to save it, like they do very

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>jealously protect and guard their culture, their cultural history, their

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>personal lineage. Um. And so it is I mean maybe

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>even compared to other indigenous tribes, Respecting Maori culture on

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>its own terms is a good idea for sure. Uh.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>These days they make quite a comeback in population. Um.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>New Zealand as a whole has more than four million

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>people in about fourteen percent or Maori, compared to a

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>low of about forty five thousand and eighteen nineties. Yeah,

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>it's about five sixty thou people. Um. But like I said,

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>there are like many marginalized indigenous tribes all over the world,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>there are problems with alcoholism. Um. The Maori are as

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>far as more likely to be drinkers than uh fifty

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>six percent Pacific Islanders. And among those who consume alcohol,

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>hazardous drinking occurs and thirty six percent of Mau. Um

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And crime too, in violence is still sort of part

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of the culture. Sadly, Um, I think I have some

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>stats here from a criminologist. Uh, even though they only

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>make up four percent of the population. I believe. Um,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>they make up about of people in prison and they

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, they throw that right back to the fact

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that they were marginalized and their culture was stamped out.

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>And uh, young people are more likely to be violent.

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Young Maori are than than older ones now. But um yeah,

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>apparently the losing your cultural identity really put a you know,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>hamper on your evolution, is it? People? I mean you

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>can see that all over the world. Keen to you

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>certainly can. Um So, let's Maori. If you want to

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>know more? Do you have anything else right now? I

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>got nothing else. If you want to know more about

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the Maori people, you can type in m A O

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>R I in the search bar at house to horks

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>dot com. We'll bring up this article. And since I

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>said Maori, it's time Chuck for listener mail. I'm gonna

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>call this email from a student at North Carolina Wilmington's. Hey, guys,

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:17.239
<v Speaker 1>he's an econ dude. My girlfriend and I have been

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>together for a little over three years and are both

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>members of the stuff you should know Army. In the

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>early days of our relationship, I used to pay her

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in doll hairs for favors such just cooking dinner or

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>getting out of bed to plug my phone in when

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I forgot, I do this too. I tell Emily, like,

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you six seventy five dollars to take out

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the trash, and I'll just make up. You know, we

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>keep a running tap of what we owe each other.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just fun. He's just doll hairs, uh, Being that

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a doll hair is not real currency, that's why he

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>uses it. Um. I could bid the price up or

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>down with ease, depending on her mood. The going rate

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>for dinner was about twelve thousand dollar hairs and a

0:33:52.800 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>BackRub was d h capital d h uh um. Of

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>course she was quickly. She quickly figured out that she

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>was not accruing the American dollars she thought she was,

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and wanted her doll hairs exchange for US currency to

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>get myself out of this. I quickly got on eBay

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to purchase her six hundred thousand Zimbabwe dollars to fulfill

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>up my financial debt obligation. Uh. Like you, I appreciated

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the novelty of owning paper currency from a country that's

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>all hyperinflation on the scale the world has never seen.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>We both got a real laugh out of a joke,

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and I am out of debt now. We both now

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>carry one hundred thousand dollars in our wallets every day

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>so we don't feel like broke college kids. Um. Economic

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>research is a great passion of mine, from observation to

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>data collection and model building. I find happiness through math

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and statistics. We don't how much in common talent Um

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>talent that's his name. I would be more than happy

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to help you all with any economic questions you ever have,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>although I don't think you need much, seeing as how

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you You're super stuff. Guide to the Economy was so

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>well presented. Awesome. Yeah, so that is from Talent Wisdom.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>His last name is wisdom Man from you and C. Wilmington's.

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And I wrote him back and he followed up and

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>said he was in the middle of writing a lesson

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>plan and eating leftovers when he got my email. And

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>he said he's often daydreamed about being on listener mail.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>This is a dream come true and you're gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>Conway Twitty owned by Talent Wisdom. That's right, uh, And

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>he he and Conway Twitty called his entire family to

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<v Speaker 1>Good going, thank you, talent Wisdom, Talent Wisdom, Conway Twitty,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and um his girlfriend. Yeah, he's got a lot of

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>doll hairs who who is very easy going with a

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.560
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