Speaker 1: On this episode of This League, the NBA is coming
Speaker 1: down on the dumbest thing called tampering that we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And JJ Reddick knows and think he thinks he knows
Speaker 1: who is to.
Speaker 2: Blame, David fucking Griffin. All right, let's get into it, Marty.
Speaker 2: Drop the beating.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about tampering as a whole, but
Speaker 1: let's first start with the news because I have lots
Speaker 1: of thoughts on the.
Speaker 2: Whole concept of tampering.
Speaker 1: The one liner just for those who want to like
Speaker 1: skip to the end, I think it's bullshit. But uh,
Speaker 1: the news is this, As we know, the Heat are
Speaker 1: under intense scrutiny with how the whole Kyle Lowry thing
Speaker 1: went down.
Speaker 2: Yes, they are now under.
Speaker 1: Investigation from the NBA into potential quote unquote tampering in
Speaker 1: their acquisition of Kyle Lowry on a sign and trade
Speaker 1: with Toronto. But they were in talks at the deadline
Speaker 1: for Kyle Lowry, so that's some other element of this news.
Speaker 1: But how did the NBA get tipped off about this?
Speaker 1: How did the NBA decide they wanted to investigate the
Speaker 1: Miami Heat well beyond the fact that the deal went
Speaker 1: down and got announced at six forty five PM. Very
Speaker 1: complex deal, multiple pieces. But JJ Reddick, a noted scorned
Speaker 1: former Pelican, thinks he knows exactly how play the clip bulls.
Speaker 4: But what's the point of the league even doing these
Speaker 4: sort of like investigations where nothing's going to come of it.
Speaker 4: It's it's a little bit for show, probably, I guess,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you'd probably have to ask
Speaker 4: the guy who's asking for the investigation. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: there was you know, some teams like cleared a ton
Speaker 4: of cap space to get Kyle and it didn't happen,
Speaker 4: and then you know Lonzo leaving.
Speaker 5: So you'd have to ask that guy.
Speaker 4: All right, guy complaining, so to.
Speaker 1: Recap, he's talking about his former GM David Griffin, who
Speaker 1: has problems with and what he's referring to is that
Speaker 1: the Pelicans made moves to clear thirty five million dollars
Speaker 1: in cap space to pay Kyle Lowry anything Kyle Lowry
Speaker 1: wanted to overpay for Kyle Lowry. Essentially, Kyle Lowry was
Speaker 1: an integral part of their off season plans, yes, that
Speaker 1: were thwarted by the Miami Heat doing the sign and
Speaker 1: trade with Precious at Chulia and Goran Dragicic to replace
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball. And then Lonzo Ball of course, didn't want
Speaker 1: to stay with a team that really didn't give a
Speaker 1: fuck about him. They had been, you know, basically trashing
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball this the entire season. We had discussed it
Speaker 1: multiple times in the Pod. He was being used at
Speaker 1: a position and then swoop swoop, he'd get Lowry right
Speaker 1: from under their nose.
Speaker 2: And we knew that was happening the day.
Speaker 1: Before free agency, which is why the Lonzo Ball deal
Speaker 1: got done at literally six' oh. One, yes that was
Speaker 1: the first, deal which is important to note because The
Speaker 1: chicago deal got done with The New Orleans pelicans basically
Speaker 1: the most tampering with that side in, trade where it
Speaker 1: Was Thomas saturanski And Garrett temple For Lonzo ball.
Speaker 2: On this sign and.
Speaker 1: Trade, so to, me the strange wild thing About David,
Speaker 1: Griffin griffin pressing THE nba to launch an investigation into
Speaker 1: The Miami, Heat it's, like, bruh.
Speaker 2: You got your own tampering problems to worry.
Speaker 1: About you are you are the drug dealer that pushes
Speaker 1: major weight, COCAINE, pcp, heroin and you're, like, hey my
Speaker 1: neighbor is selling donbags out of his trunk of his.
Speaker 2: Car it's like The Miami heat were on the.
Speaker 1: Fucking one yard line With Kyle lowry at the trade,
Speaker 1: deadline couldn't make the deal done because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to get rid Of tyler Hero they figured out a way.
Speaker 2: To do the, deal and you obviously are tampering.
Speaker 1: More and now you're, like go get Pat.
Speaker 2: Riley what the? Fuck it's like mafia don Pat. Riley
Speaker 2: like if anyone's.
Speaker 1: Trying to pin a legal activity on Pat, riley that's
Speaker 1: literally like trying to pin a.
Speaker 5: Murder On John.
Speaker 2: Gottie like it's just not gonna.
Speaker 1: Happen like it's just Pat riley is absolved FROM nba.
Speaker 1: Scrutiny nothing's gonna. Happen it's gonna it's a little slap
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 5: Wrist. Right but so there's HEAVY i, MEAN i don't
Speaker 5: know exactly if there's an investigation going, on but there's.
Speaker 5: Heavy actually there, is like into The. Pelicans so did
Speaker 5: that occur because he went and talked about The, HEAT i,
Speaker 5: think and it just. BACKFIRED i think it.
Speaker 1: Was that's. Funny Bobby marks was like fifteen seconds into the,
Speaker 1: thing The Chicago pelicans deal goes. Down, yeah obviously it's
Speaker 1: not Just chicago that's going to get. Dinged New orleans
Speaker 1: is going to get dianned because it's the same. Deal
Speaker 1: it's like both sides of that trade have to be
Speaker 1: investigated and.
Speaker 5: It's going to be worse because they lost the. Trade
Speaker 5: and like the only thing going for The pelicans right
Speaker 5: now is that they've accumulated so many draft picks they're
Speaker 5: probably going to lose.
Speaker 2: Something they're going to probably lose some draft.
Speaker 1: Picks and on top of, THAT i don't know if
Speaker 1: you know, this BUT i looked into the maximum amount
Speaker 1: of fines for.
Speaker 2: Tampering do you know what that number? Is no idea
Speaker 2: ten million dollars for?
Speaker 5: Tampering and so does that like affect the cap for
Speaker 5: the next? Year, mike that's kind of. Why, yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Wild so you've Got David griffin play and connect for
Speaker 1: with the Gram master Of, chess and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just so so. FUNNY i love THAT Jj reddick knew
Speaker 1: immediately that it's Like David griffin is the salty Balls
Speaker 1: tattletale trying to saddle Pat riley with this tampering. Investigation it's, like,
Speaker 1: bro what the fuck are you? Doing so, funny but
Speaker 1: not as funny to me as like the fact that
Speaker 1: the league is trying to pedal to us that tampering
Speaker 1: is something that we should be outraged, about that we
Speaker 1: should all be trying to crack the whip on players
Speaker 1: and teams and agents and. Gms like tampering is like a,
Speaker 1: rollie not a, Stopwatch like it is happening at all.
Speaker 1: Times it don't ever. Stop the only time tampering doesn't
Speaker 1: stop is when THE nba says that it's legal and
Speaker 1: they lift the. Moratorium that's the only time it's it's
Speaker 1: legal and not. Happening that's the only, time because it's always.
Speaker 5: Happening like, YEAH i mean it's a silly. Thing, Hey
Speaker 5: it's just it's impossible to police because you can't stop
Speaker 5: players from. Talking you just. CAN'T i, mean they're gonna,
Speaker 5: talk they're gonna talk about how they can team, up
Speaker 5: and that just that just. Happens and like the people
Speaker 5: that end up getting punished for, it it often is
Speaker 5: like pretty, Silly like a lot of the. Fine LIKE
Speaker 5: i remember When Steve kerr was THE gm of The,
Speaker 5: suns he said, like oh, Yeah lron wants to take
Speaker 5: the mid level, exception we take, him and he got
Speaker 5: fined for tampering for.
Speaker 1: That so it's Like Draymond green got fined On, UH
Speaker 1: i want to SAY nba NOT nba, Countdown oh inside
Speaker 1: THE nba side THE nba when he said something about
Speaker 1: like That Devin booker needed the.
Speaker 5: League, yeah, yeah, WELL i mean it's just so.
Speaker 1: Stupid it's like literally these or When Magic johnson said
Speaker 1: something positive about another player and it's, like you think that's.
Speaker 1: Tampering let me let me tell you what's really going.
Speaker 5: On, yeah, no It's i've always thought tampering is just
Speaker 5: the dumbest thing in THE U tar.
Speaker 1: World apparently right now it's bubbling. Up it's becoming a
Speaker 1: hot topic At Summer. League SO espn just reported this.
Speaker 1: Quote most team executives are quick to blame the competitive
Speaker 1: market that forces their hand by requiring them to either
Speaker 1: make offers in, advance well in advance of free agency,
Speaker 1: opening or being risk being left out in the coal.
Speaker 2: When the market officially.
Speaker 1: Opens according to, them agents approached them and inform them
Speaker 1: weeks weeks Before august.
Speaker 5: Second.
Speaker 2: Saying you need to make bids within.
Speaker 1: Twenty four hours or risk being missing out on the
Speaker 1: most attractive.
Speaker 5: Targets, yeah makes.
Speaker 1: Sense so executives say that the solution that they see
Speaker 1: is just to allow teams and agents to negotiate as
Speaker 1: soon as the season. Concludes this is the worst kept
Speaker 1: secret on. Earth this is What Mark stein, said which
Speaker 1: was his example of how very obvious the tampering. IS
Speaker 1: i got a tip from a trusted source check Out
Speaker 1: Daniel tice To houston four, years thirty six. Million the,
Speaker 1: tip which proved, correct was floated to me.
Speaker 2: On july twenty.
Speaker 5: Ninth that was.
Speaker 1: Drafted that was also nearly four full days before the
Speaker 1: scheduled start OF nba free agency On august. Second tyson's
Speaker 1: eventual deal with The rockets was one of roughly one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty contracts and extensions agreed upon by various
Speaker 1: media outlets in the first forty EIGHT a lot of
Speaker 1: deals going down in the first forty eight hours of
Speaker 1: the open.
Speaker 5: Market, well we joked about. It we were, like, like
Speaker 5: imagine What woja's scheduled tweets look like right?
Speaker 1: Now, yeah exactly where he says the league's supposed opening
Speaker 1: bill is much closer to the end of free agency
Speaker 1: than the.
Speaker 2: Beginning how Niche.
Speaker 1: It's not Like Kyle lowry to The heat where we
Speaker 1: all could kind of guess, that Like Daniel tye four,
Speaker 1: years thirty six million to The Houston. ROCKETS i, mean
Speaker 1: that's a smoking gun right. There so let's just stop the.
Speaker 1: BULLSHIT i don't understand then the rule needs to. CHANGE
Speaker 1: i don't know why there's a moratorium between the end
Speaker 1: of the end of the season and the beginning of
Speaker 1: the free.
Speaker 2: Agency there's really no need to.
Speaker 1: Wait imagine if you opened up free agency as soon
Speaker 1: as the season concluded before the, draft how much better
Speaker 1: teams would actually.
Speaker 5: DRAFT i mean that's how THE nfl does. It they
Speaker 5: do free agency before the, draft, Right, Yeah i've always
Speaker 5: thought that kind of made more. Sense. UH I mean
Speaker 5: the only problem with it is if, like, oh so
Speaker 5: you you open it right when the season, ends like
Speaker 5: people are just going to like be negotiating during the
Speaker 5: playoffs and so so it's like no one's ever going
Speaker 5: to follow these. Rules that's like the, Thing so just
Speaker 5: like lift it, Completely like why do we need this
Speaker 5: as a.
Speaker 1: RULE i think free agency should be negotiated like in
Speaker 1: the last year of your, deal decide where you want to,
Speaker 1: go like it's never not going to, happen so that
Speaker 1: as soon as your season ends you can just decide
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 5: Just, WELL i guess the reason is the owners want
Speaker 5: it because they want to be able to negotiate with
Speaker 5: their players exclusively and stuff like. That THAT'S i guess the.
Speaker 5: Reason but it's STILL i, mean just.
Speaker 2: Lock your players up before their free.
Speaker 5: Agency that and just, yeah no one's ever going to
Speaker 5: follow these, rules.
Speaker 1: And no, one no one make it make. Sense that's
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