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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime podcast host and we got some great stories

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Speaker 1: coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute

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Speaker 2: My best friend used me for free labor at her wedding.

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Speaker 3: What you gotta get paid for that?

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Speaker 2: My best friend of twenty three years announced in July

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Speaker 2: she was engaged and asked me to be her maid

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Speaker 2: of honor. I honestly didn't think our friendship was that

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Speaker 2: close out after being out of high school for eighteen years,

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Speaker 2: but I said yes. By the way, this comes from

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Speaker 2: Laura Boorr and if you want to submit your own stories,

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Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay Storytime subreddit. I'm Carleen,

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Speaker 2: I'm Angie, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy,

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Speaker 2: but we don't have all the answers. We only know

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Speaker 2: what we would do, So let us know what you

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Speaker 2: would do in the comments. And OPI says planning started

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Speaker 2: fine but slowly devolved into chaos. Sandra is extremely particular,

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Speaker 2: wanting everything for her wedding at her exact specifications, while

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Speaker 2: also having a dime store budget straight up cheap. She

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Speaker 2: insisted on hosting the reception in her LDS church gym,

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Speaker 2: while also declaring it hideous and insisting on ordering full

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Speaker 2: wall floor to ceiling pipe and draping the ceiling beistro lights.

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Speaker 2: Despite wanting this, she was unwilling to pay for it

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Speaker 2: and also bemoaned the expense. I finally stepped back from

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Speaker 2: wedding planning in August because she was just too demanding

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Speaker 2: and too exhausting. I told her my boyfriend and I

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Speaker 2: wedding set up the day prior so she could order

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Speaker 2: the cheaper pipe and drape package, and left her to

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Speaker 2: her own planning devices. I did throw her a bridle

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Speaker 2: shower last weekend with the help of her cousin. Fast

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Speaker 2: forward eight weeks and she didn't even get her invitation

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Speaker 2: sent out until three weeks before the wedding. She had

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Speaker 2: a two hundred and fifty person guest list, insisting all

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Speaker 2: of them would come, and she decided to not serve

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're gonna invite two hundred and fifty people

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna expect them to all be there.

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Speaker 5: Three weeks later.

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Speaker 4: That is crazy, and we're only.

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Speaker 2: Gonna serve them cheesecakes and wedding sheet cakes.

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Speaker 4: Just cakes, cake, just cakes for two hundred and fifty people.

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Speaker 2: Yep, wow, just cheesecake and wedding sheet cake. My boyfriend

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Speaker 2: tried to tell her double dessert was not a good idea,

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Speaker 2: but she was adamant. She told us to be at

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Speaker 2: the LDS church at seven am the day before the wedding.

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend and I were confused why she needed us

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Speaker 2: setting up tables and chairs, putting her linens on, putting

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Speaker 2: gave me a list of eight people who were also

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Speaker 2: and her fiance showed up. My boyfriend very quickly and

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Speaker 2: efficiently got all the tables shoved into orientation while I

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Speaker 2: got chairs out. Sandra bounced around the room in a panic,

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Speaker 2: unable to decide how she wanted to configure tables. Her

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Speaker 2: we aren't changing it. This orientation is beautiful and you

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Speaker 2: will love it. She was even panicking that the six

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Speaker 2: room to not laugh. I assured her it would be fine.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were close to being done wrong. This

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Speaker 2: woman apparently didn't do anything until that day. She purchased

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Speaker 2: a bunch of cheap dollar store crap, put it all

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Speaker 2: from Sheen and just put them as in her box.

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Speaker 2: She didn't open them, check them, iron them. Nothing. At

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Speaker 2: eight thirty, she opens this box and proceeds to tell

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Speaker 2: us she needs all the leafs cut off the garland

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Speaker 2: because she wants them loose on the tables. She wanted

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Speaker 2: pumpkins glued to her centerpieces. Tea lights needed to be opened,

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Speaker 2: batteries installed, and she needed twenty seven tablecloths and table runners, irons,

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Speaker 2: napkins ironed. Oh, and she needed to figure out her bouquet.

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Speaker 2: Figure out, go outside, pick some flowers. Angie's figure it

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Speaker 4: Figure it out? Wild because Okay, pick up a bouquet.

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Speaker 4: Already crazy for the day. Okay, pick up the bouquet.

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Speaker 2: One, find anyone with the flowers.

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Speaker 4: Un but if figure it out is like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: to buy nine cheesecakes, go to the bakery forty five

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Speaker 2: and assemble them into a wedding bouquet. She wanted me

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Speaker 2: to go to a florist and call her on Zoom

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Speaker 2: straight up said no. He told her we would go

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Speaker 2: She claimed she'll repay us. She begged us to call

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Speaker 2: doing all white Texas. The flowers you hate so we

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Speaker 2: can avoid them. Bye, we gotta move fast. She tried

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Speaker 2: to ask if we can go to several different stores

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Speaker 2: to find irises, and he very kindly told her no.

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Speaker 2: If she wanted irises, she should have ordered flowers. She

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Speaker 2: gets what Costco has, but don't worry. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be beautiful and you will love it. We then ran

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Speaker 2: the errands Costco cheesecake, sauces, flowers, ribbons, floral pins. Her

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Speaker 2: job was to go home and get her iron and board.

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Speaker 2: She said she was going to throw some of the

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Speaker 2: tablecloths in her dryer with a wet towel to try

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Speaker 2: to steam the wrinkles perfect. We came back at ten

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Speaker 2: two hours building her a beautiful wedding bouquet. We found

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Speaker 2: a pre made bouquet that had some nice rust flowers

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Speaker 2: and took a risk and bought it, along with white roses.

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Speaker 2: We had enough leftover for bridesmaid bouquets too. Trust me

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Speaker 2: when I say this bouquet he made was gorgeous. I

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Speaker 2: well as him. He then pre cut her cheesecakes. We

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Speaker 2: they went to do that, but they had to drive

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Speaker 2: that she actually didn't own an iron. They had the

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Speaker 2: wedding cake barely fit in the fridge alongside the cheesecake.

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Speaker 2: The sheet cake was way too big. We had to

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Speaker 2: cream held up overnight. Okay, this is the day before

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Speaker 2: the wedding. I was thinking this was wedding day. This

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Speaker 2: is rehearsal over day. Still where my confusion was, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: For sure, but yeah, not having an iron, promising people

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Speaker 4: that like, yeah, I'll go pick up my iron when

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Speaker 4: you just don't have one crazy sane and then yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's no like fridge at this place for your cake.

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Speaker 4: First of all, was a ninety six person cake, and

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Speaker 4: you insisted on two hundred and fifty people being there.

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Speaker 4: I doubt though I'll be there, but still that's crazy crazy.

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Speaker 2: We still had rehearsal dinner to get ready for paid

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Speaker 2: for by the fiances family. We finally just had to leave,

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Speaker 2: and I said I would come back to the church

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Speaker 2: after the dinner to help her. Iron. Dinner took entirely

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Speaker 2: too long. I sent my boyfriend home because I could

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Speaker 2: Then she hit me with this bump show she wasn't

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Speaker 2: moving out of her parents' house into her fiance's apartment

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Speaker 2: that night. What girl? What do her sister and I

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Speaker 2: tried to tell her that she didn't need to do that,

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Speaker 2: That night, I finally left the dinner to go to

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Speaker 2: griped about it for thirty minutes, so then my mom

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Speaker 2: all the bridesmaid's dresses, her petticoat, and her wedding dress

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Speaker 4: So there is a fridge for there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't even think about it until five am

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Speaker 2: unlock the church for her to get her bouquet. Keep

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Speaker 2: in mind, I was not invited to the wedding because

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Speaker 2: it was at the LDS Temple and I'm a heathen.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, okay, because I went to a wedding that

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Speaker 4: was like like, my cousins are Mormon, and uh, I'm not,

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Speaker 4: so I couldn't go into the actual wedding, but I

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Speaker 4: was at the reception, So it's like I get that,

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Speaker 4: like that's just.

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Speaker 5: A normal thing.

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Speaker 4: But to have someone that's not even gonna be in

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Speaker 4: the actual wedding, like doing all this stuff for you

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Speaker 4: is like, girl, ask someone else that has a little

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Speaker 5: It's a little weird.

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Speaker 2: Like because then also though it's at the temple, so

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Speaker 2: not the church. Well, so I think she's allowed into

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Speaker 2: their church, she's just not allowed into the ceremony party

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Speaker 2: because she's been she's been in the church, but this

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Speaker 4: So then maybe the reception is in the church, and

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Speaker 4: she's allowed.

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Speaker 2: In the church, but she's not allowed in the temple.

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Speaker 4: Right because it's in the which is strange.

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Speaker 2: She's just like a weird rule. Sure, religion whatever, I

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Speaker 2: No one wanted to eat cheesecake until she arrived. Her

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Speaker 4: Thanks, I'd be so. Who's Sandra, Yes?

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Speaker 5: Don't? And who are you for talking to me like

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Speaker 2: Yes, this woman was fully planning on taking home all

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Speaker 2: four leftover cheesecakes that we bought, an entire ninety six

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Speaker 2: She was not going to share any of this leftover

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Speaker 2: She was so mad at her greed and entitlement. He said,

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Speaker 2: full stars for their chore charts. They could apprize it

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Speaker 2: I didn't even feel like I attended the wedding. I

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Speaker 4: Okay, at least someone is saying.

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Speaker 2: Thank God, he said, thank you, but Sandra has not.

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Speaker 5: Sandra, we're waiting for you girl.

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Speaker 2: The fiance's family thanked us and said we did well

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Speaker 2: for months. Everything about her wedding fee so cheap and tacky.

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Speaker 2: Dollar tree decorations, plastic lanterns with plastic pumpkins glued on

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Speaker 4: I forgot that it was like the gym, and before

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Speaker 4: when I was thinking Jim, I I was thinking like

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Speaker 4: a workout gym, not like a gymnasium, but straight up basketball.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure the floor was just basketball court.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, squeak in or with those heels.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the overhead lighting.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: I would not remain friends with this person. I know

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Speaker 2: it's not even a question that you've asked us, but

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to talk to this girl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because how do they know where?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 4: Is this the boyfriend's I thought it was the boyfriend's sister.

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Speaker 2: Really good friend, I think.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would not. Oh yeah, my best friend

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Speaker 4: used me for yeah, okay, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: Not my friend. Her wedding cake was deal with orange

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Speaker 2: pumpkins piped on the top of her two hundred and

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Speaker 2: I assume most people use Amazon's option to ship to

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's possible, except for they just ran

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Speaker 2: Which we thought was hilarious because we are all thirty six,

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Speaker 3: I was fully expecting this car.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like so tiny and young, Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, definitely too old for this mid two thousand's

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Speaker 2: cheap dollar general pinterest board wedding vibe nonsense, And that

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Speaker 4: My best friend betrayed me, so I married the man

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Speaker 2: Dad'll show her.

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Speaker 4: In high school, I female fifty had a very close

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Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from Terrible Operation.

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Speaker 4: and I'm Angie, I'm Karly, and we're here to give

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Speaker 4: We just know we would do in the situation, so

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Speaker 4: And oh Sky moved to our rural town in middle school,

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Speaker 4: date Barkley. I replied that if I wasn't in this

436
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 4: situation that I was him, I would also.

437
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 5: Consider dating him.

438
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: She didn't seem to like that comment, because, at least

439
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 4: in my opinion.

440
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 5: She thought he would never date me instead of her.

441
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 5: This co sounds kind of awful. Why are you friends

442
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 5: with her?

443
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Several months later, Barkley and I sat up late

444
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 4: talking at a laundromat, and he confessed that he thought

445
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 4: that he was falling in love with me. What laundromat confessions.

446
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 4: We both admitted that the timing couldn't be much worse.

447
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 4: I was four to five months pregnant, and I told

448
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 4: him that I needed to focus on my child and

449
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: finishing my degree so that I could provide for us. However,

450
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 4: we both talked about the potential of our future being

451
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 4: together someday. Some people on his campus even jumped to

452
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 4: conclusions that we were together and that he was the.

453
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 5: Father, and he didn't even correct them.

454
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: Oh wow. We both knew without a doubt that we

455
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 4: had found our person, regardless of the circumstances, and that

456
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 4: one day we would find a way to be together.

457
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: It makes me tear up still just writing this timeline here, timelineline,

458
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 4: so break down for me, hope. He is currently four

459
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 4: to five months pregnant. Yes, but it said that she

460
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: met Barkley like a month or two into this pregnant.

461
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 5: Yes, And so they're already they're like.

462
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: Three months into even knowing each Yes, and they're already like, yeah,

463
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 4: we're gonna be together forever. Yes, you haven't even started

464
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: dating at all?

465
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: Correct.

466
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was about three months pregnant when I met Barkley,

467
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 4: so it's probably it's.

468
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: Been even less.

469
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: It's been two or three months?

470
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 5: What what?

471
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: What?

472
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 6: Or no?

473
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 5: One or two month?

474
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 4: Four to five months pregnant, one or two months of

475
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: knowing this guy that apparently our life.

476
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 5: Sure go.

477
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 4: I told Kay about the conversation, and she was a

478
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 4: little bit sarcastic and flippant. I tried to not feel hurt,

479
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: but her tone insinuated that he would never want to

480
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 4: be with someone like me. Now, for context, she was

481
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 4: practically engaged at the time, and yet had at least

482
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 4: two guys she was seeing behind her boyfriend's back, so

483
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine that she had any real interest in Barkley.

484
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree.

485
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 4: Just a few weeks later, the next time I drove

486
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: to that university for a visit, Barkley asked if we

487
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 4: could speak privately. He told me that Kay had come

488
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: to visit him one night when friends had been over drinking.

489
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 4: They all left, but she said at that point she

490
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 4: threw herself at him, pretty confident that he would recipro kate.

491
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: He responded by telling her that he was in love

492
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 4: with me, and even though we weren't together, he didn't

493
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: think it was right for him to pursue anything with her.

494
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: Of Course, she was furious. She proceeded to tell him

495
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: all the dirt about me. That best friends know about

496
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 4: each other.

497
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: It's just like, did you know, op, he's pregnant?

498
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you know?

499
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

500
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 4: And it's not like I know she's been looking pretty

501
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: hot recently, but she's actually pregnant, and.

502
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: He's like, I know it. Yeah.

503
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: When that didn't seem to sway him, she just started

504
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: making stuff up to try to turn him against me.

505
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 5: He told me enough. I didn't want the.

506
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 4: Gory details, but I knew from what he related that

507
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: there was no doubt that she had completely betrayed my trust. However,

508
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: we had already resolved not to keep anything from each other,

509
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 4: so I set the record straight on the things that

510
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: she had lied about and the things that were true

511
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: we talked about openly. I thought, if we ever are

512
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: actually together, I want him to know everything about me,

513
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: and I want to know everything about him, so there

514
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 4: are no secrets at all. I couldn't find her that evening,

515
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: but the next day on campus, I saw her walking

516
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: out of her dorm.

517
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: As I was.

518
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 4: Walking in, I just said, he told me everything. I'm

519
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 4: fully picturing that as like in passing kind of thing,

520
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 4: like they're seeing.

521
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: Each other, not really, She's walking by so quick, and

522
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: she just like turns her head really.

523
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and they're like, as they're walking towards each other,

524
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: they're doing that thing where they like awkwardly like make

525
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: eye contact and look away.

526
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: Did they shoulder check each other a little bit? Maybe?

527
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 4: I think they totally would. But that's like, as she

528
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: says it.

529
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, as the shoulder hits he's like, he told me everything.

530
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he told me everything.

531
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: And it like turns her just enough that she's like.

532
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: Looking exactly, and she just she just like wow. She

533
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: just peeks over her shoulder, not even like fully turning

534
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: to look just like a little and then and still

535
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: walks is there like like uh, as all the people

536
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: start walking around her. I think we figured it out.

537
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: I think we were actually we were there that cut

538
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: paste movies done boom.

539
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: I was expecting some kind of wild denial, but instead

540
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: she just glared at me, shrugged coldly, and walked away.

541
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: Interesting that totally fits into our scene here. I was

542
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: in shock, and I never saw her face again, at.

543
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: Least not for thirty years.

544
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: What is this story?

545
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: Barkley and I got married a year and a half later.

546
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: He adopted my son, our son, and they have been

547
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 4: so incredibly close that I don't think anyone would believe

548
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: me if I told them that Barkley wasn't his biological dad.

549
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 4: Our son has always known the truth and known that

550
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: Barkley was the dad that chose to be his dad.

551
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: I have the most enormous love and respect for this man.

552
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 4: Still after more than thirty years of marriage. He is

553
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: still my person and.

554
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 5: I'm still his.

555
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 4: And a jealous ex best friend who only wanted one

556
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 4: more conquest and couldn't have it wasn't able to break

557
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: us up in those early months. I still hated her

558
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: so much for what she had done that I sent

559
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: her a wedding invitation with the time and location blacked

560
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: out to show her that she didn't stop us from

561
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 4: being together dayah. I included it in a box with

562
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: things from her that I had accumulated through the years

563
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: of our friendship. In the box was every printed picture

564
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: that I had with her, ripped into confetti in a

565
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: little bag, and an article titled with when your best

566
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 4: friend betrays you from some woman's magazine, Oh my God,

567
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: I'm scary, which I had cut out and scrawled along

568
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: the top. Thanks for the memories, I mailed her that

569
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: box of wrath and married the love of my life. However,

570
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: the story it's a little crazier from here.

571
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

572
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: By the way, we're like just over halfway through this story.

573
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

574
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I need to like process. Yeah that was

575
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: that's a lot.

576
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: Wow, you did the most to make sure she knew

577
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: that you guys got married.

578
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, you like Cereal with the magazine kind of

579
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: letters you cereal unlived your friendship.

580
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm realizing that social media wouldn't really

581
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: have been like much of a thing because I was

582
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: kind of gonna be like she was probably knows anyway,

583
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: like she's probably gonna see it, Like I really don't

584
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: need to do all that kind of Like that just

585
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: makes it a little bit like, wow, she's still obsessed

586
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: with me.

587
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.

588
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: Kind of thing. But like, yeah, you you had to

589
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: because she wasn't just gonna stuckumble upon that information. Yeah,

590
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: although I guess you could have waited and she would

591
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: have found out fifty years later.

592
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: I guess so, dude. Wild So it gets a little

593
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: crazier from here. Can't imagine how no one ever knew

594
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: why Kay and I stopped being friends. I became a

595
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: person of faith, several years later and came to understand

596
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: the power of forgiveness. It didn't absolve the person for

597
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 4: what they've done, but it would free me for my

598
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: own torment. It took me a long time, probably about

599
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: ten years, to forgive her, and even longer too, from

600
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: trusting friendships with women again.

601
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: A few years ago, my.

602
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: High school had a thirtieth class reunion. Ah, that's how

603
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: they're going to meet again. I've never been to any

604
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 4: of them, quite honestly, it just isn't my thing, and

605
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 4: I wasn't really close to anyone in high school but her. Anyway,

606
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: a mutual friend told me that she wasn't going to

607
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: be there and encouraged me to come. I have lived

608
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 4: quite far from my hometown, actually spending most of my

609
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: adult life in foreign countries for work, so I hadn't

610
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: really kept up with most people. On a whim, I

611
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: decided to go to my relief she wasn't there.

612
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

613
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: However, a certain girl in our small class that had

614
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: never been very nice to anyone outside her a click

615
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: somehow had Kay's phone number. She face timed her and

616
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: shoved the phone in my hand, and there we were

617
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 4: face to face for the first time in thirty years.

618
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: What is strange, and I'm not saying this boastfully, is

619
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 4: that she didn't recognize me at all, because, according to

620
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: the other people, I have had a bit of a

621
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: glow up throughout the years. When I told her who

622
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: I was, I felt a little nervous, but I didn't

623
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: feel anything else that I thought.

624
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: I would feel.

625
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 5: No hate, no anger or hurt.

626
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: She was just a stranger on the other side of

627
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: a screen, someone that I didn't know and who didn't

628
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: know me. The look on her face of shock and

629
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: the slightest flicker of horror when she realized.

630
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: It was me didn't really even give me.

631
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: Any satisfaction, just vague sadness. We talked for a few

632
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: minutes about where life had taken us. If I had

633
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: any petty moment, it was a little satisfying telling her

634
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: that I've been happily married to Barkley, a home of

635
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: these years. What I found so strange was a comment

636
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: from someone who knew her, The person who had invited me,

637
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: said that she had twisted the story to make it

638
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: sound like she was no longer my friend because of

639
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: something that I had done to her in high school.

640
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: After I heard the reason I knew why she hated

641
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: me enough to betray me, or how she had at

642
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: least convinced herself that what she did was justified. During

643
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: our prom, the junior class hosted a dinner for the

644
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: senior class before the dance. During the meal, a classmate

645
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: toppled over a cup of coffee onto my pale pink

646
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: dress and stained it. Now, remember I didn't really date

647
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: in high school, and this was before I had a boyfriend,

648
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: so I didn't have a date for the prom. I

649
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: ran across the street to K's house because she lived

650
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: so close to the school and we had been getting

651
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: ready there. I didn't think anyone would be at her house,

652
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: so I ran to get a towel and some detergent

653
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: to see if there was any way to salvage my dress. However,

654
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: her mother was there and she had tears in her eye.

655
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: Her mom said, I guess everyone knows now, and that's

656
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: why you've come back. I told her I had no

657
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: idea what she was talking about, and she just shook

658
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: her head and said, well, they'll find out soon.

659
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: What is this story?

660
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: What kind of Oh I read ahead? Oh?

661
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: I didn't.

662
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: It might not.

663
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: It just sounds so dramatic, so dramatic and very I'm

664
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 4: also just kind of like a little bit like, what

665
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: the heck, guys, this was fifty thirty years ago?

666
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: What in the high school? Petty? Yeah, like peaking drama?

667
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: Are we reliving right now?

668
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

669
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, tragically, one of our lifelong classmates in that small

670
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: town had just been in a fatal car crash on

671
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: the way to the banquet. Oh my gosh, it seemed

672
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: everyone in the town new except for the people at

673
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: the school. I ran upstairs to the bathroom the k

674
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: and I had been using to get ready. I was

675
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: sobbing and in shock because this is someone in our

676
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: greater friend group that I had grown up with since

677
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: I was in diapers. I saw that Kay's out of

678
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: town date, who wasn't a serious boyfriend, but a guy

679
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: that she saw from time to time, was already there

680
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: waiting for her to get back from the banquet so

681
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: they could go to the dance together. When he saw

682
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: me crying, he walked up to me in the hallway

683
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: and gave me a big h I barely knew this guy,

684
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: but had been around him a couple of times in

685
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: group settings. As I was crying, and his arms were

686
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: around me. The dude had the audacity to bend down

687
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: and kiss me and then say that he wished he

688
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: was going to prom with me instead of Kay.

689
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: What, buddy, this is not the time to be talking

690
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: about that.

691
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: This girl just found out that someone that she goes

692
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: to school was passed and kissing her.

693
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: Dude, Come on, I don't actually remember if I said anything.

694
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: I don't think I did, because I was so shocked

695
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: that moments after I found out that friend was gone forever,

696
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: this guy who I thought was consoling me, was trying

697
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: to hit on me. I basically told him something along

698
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: the lines that he needed to stop how he was acting.

699
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: I left immediately and waited in the school for your

700
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: until the other students had been notified, because I couldn't

701
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: face everyone since I was the only student who knew

702
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: about the accident, especially since the sister of the boy

703
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: who had passed away.

704
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: Was in the school and didn't know.

705
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh god, that's a terrible hole.

706
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is so terrible. So much is

707
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 5: happening in this story, Oh my god.

708
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: Evidently what I found out all these years later is

709
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: that Kay's mother was standing at the bottom of the

710
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: stairs at her house and saw the guy that kiss

711
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: me and possibly heard what he said.

712
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: She told her daughter what this was on the stairs,

713
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: that you were doing this.

714
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: And he was like, right at the top of the

715
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: baby or something.

716
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: So you heard this, and then also didn't hear the Oh, no,

717
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: you need to stop because what Kay never said a

718
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: word to me, so she never gave me a chance

719
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: to tell her my side or to explain that it

720
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: was completely unsolicited and unreciprocated, although it might have looked

721
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: differently because I was in utter shock in a moment

722
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: of grief which this guy took advantage of.

723
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: So I would say that what a waste.

724
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: This culminated into her betrayal and thirty years of not

725
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: having had k in my life. Honestly, though, I'm not

726
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: sure we would have been friends much longer anyway, because

727
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: our lives were on such different paths and we were

728
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: such wildly different people. I can just hope that this

729
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: is a tionary tale about jumping to conclusions and letting

730
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: a resentment fester, whether it is or isn't warranted. To

731
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: this day, I have no idea if she knows the truth.

732
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: Although I've used fake names in a vague situation for privacy.

733
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: A little part of me does hope that she finds this,

734
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: realizes it's me, and knows that I didn't really betray her,

735
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: and that I forgive her for trying to split me

736
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: in Barkley Up. I've had my happily ever after Barkley

737
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: and I are still living it, and I hope that

738
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: she has found hers too.

739
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: Everyone needs a little grace in this.

740
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Life, after all, so things I've learned. Moral of the story,

741
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: real love exists. No true friend would harbor such bitterness

742
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: and not give their friend a chance to clear up

743
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: a misunderstanding. Just because someone seems to have everything doesn't

744
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: mean they aren't jealous of you. These are the kind

745
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: of people that will only befriend you if you stand

746
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 4: in their shadow and accept the role of less than

747
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: to keep them feeling superior. Someone else's spite is not

748
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: worth your peace. And that is the end of that story.

749
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Speaker 4: My daughter and I lost our bond, then her best

752
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755
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Speaker 4: six year old man. I've lived a fairly decent life

756
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Speaker 4: in general. I'm proud of who I am and what

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Speaker 4: I've done. I've worked hard to be a decent person.

758
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: I've never been rich in the Jeff Bezos sense, but

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Speaker 4: I've been lucky.

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Speaker 2: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice.

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Speaker 4: Goofly, but we don't have all the answers. We just

766
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Speaker 4: know what we would do in this situation. But let

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Speaker 4: us know what you would do in the comments. So

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Speaker 4: Op says, my dad was successful and set me up

769
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: with enough that I could live comfortably. Because of that,

770
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: I've been able to do what I actually want to do.

771
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: For work, I'm an art teacher. I also own a

772
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 4: little independent bookstore that looks like it was plucked straight

773
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: out of a.

774
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: Rom com or studio.

775
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: Ghibilee film wooden shelves, warm lighting, cozy reading corners, handwritten recommendations.

776
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: I love my job, I love my bookstore, I love art,

777
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 4: I love people, and I loved raising my daughter.

778
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: Let's call her Ella.

779
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 4: Ella is twenty five now. I had her when I

780
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: was twenty one, and yes, I know that's young. Her

781
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: mother and I got divorced when Ella was nine, and

782
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: even though things didn't work out between us, her mother

783
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 4: and I have a good friendship now. We split custody evenly.

784
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: Ella spent equal time with us until she was eighteen.

785
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: After that she chose to move in with me, but

786
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. I raised her to be kind.

787
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: That was always the most important thing to me. Kindness, empathy,

788
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: and acceptance. I've never understood bigotry. I've tried to lead

789
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: by example. I have friends from all walks of life,

790
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: every identity and background. I'm always taught her that the

791
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: world is big and full of beautiful variety, and that

792
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: we need to meet that with open arms. She grew

793
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: up with bedtime stories from different cultures, pride flags in

794
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 4: our window, and Saturday mornings running workshops for kids who

795
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: couldn't afford art supplies. But sometime in high school something changed.

796
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: I think she fell in with the wrong crap. You

797
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: hear that kind of thing all the time and think

798
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: it sounds like a cliche, But sometimes cliches are true.

799
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: I know, I definitely don't ever think that's cliche.

800
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: I think that's so cliche. It's just like, sorry, so

801
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: not cliche. I mean that's so it's just common.

802
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just what happens sometimes.

803
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: She started parroting weird internet language, got into these bizarre

805
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: all right adjacent communities online. She started calling things beta

806
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: and complaining about cancel culture. I tried to talk to her,

807
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: tried to understand, tried to guide her back, but I

808
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: was met with walls, with eye rolls and scoffs.

809
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: She started drinking, smoking.

810
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm not sure she stopped talking to me about anything meaningful.

811
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 4: Her friend group rotated constantly with the New Boys, always

812
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 4: around forty two of them.

813
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: What I once forty two group?

814
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: Forty two person friend.

815
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: Group that truly loved me speechless, I'm like constantly rotating

816
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: New Boys, so forty two totally, I'm guessing, but not

817
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: at once. Yeah, that's crazy, Opie says. I know, because

818
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: I counted. Yes, I actually wrote them down like some

819
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: kind of bitter sitcom dat. I'm not proud of it,

820
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 4: but it kept me from going insane. Despite all of it,

821
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: I never stopped loving her. I still haven't stopped, but

822
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: she doesn't feel like my Ella anymore, and it's this

823
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: constant ache in my chest, like I've lost her even

824
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: though she's right here. She still lives with me. She

825
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: could have moved out after college, but never did. Part

826
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: of me is glad. Another part of me is starting

827
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: to wonder if I've enabled her to keep coasting. She

828
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: doesn't need to work. We have money, and she knows

829
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: that I never wanted her to need a job. I

830
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: wanted her to have the freedom to choose what she

831
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: wanted to do. But she's not doing anything, just floating,

832
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: which brings me to last night. She brought a friend home,

833
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: a boy named Tommy. They've been friends for a few

834
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: years now, met in college. I've seen him around the

835
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: house a handful of times. Always polite, so I've spoken

836
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 4: kind of shy, very cute. Yeah, I said it. I'm

837
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: not blind read it. I might be forty six, but

838
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: I know what's what. Tommy is what I'd comfortably describe

839
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: as a femboy. Long eyelash, is perfect skin, little past

840
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: hell hoodie, tiny silver rings on his fingers. He smells

841
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: like vanilla and sis. I'm assuming it's like a strong smell.

842
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to this.

843
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: Guy's creepy because he doesn't seem like it.

844
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what perfume he wears, but it's addictive.

845
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, okay, that sounded creepy. I'm not gonna lie.

846
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, he's adorable.

847
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: I was a little surprised that he and Ella were

848
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: friends at all, considering her recent opinions. Anyway, Ella said

849
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: that she was just bringing Tommy over to chill for

850
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: a bit, said that they were gonna watch a movie.

851
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: I made snacks. I popped in to say hi, and

852
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: then not even twenty minutes later, she tells me that

853
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: she's going out to a party. I asked, what about Tommy.

854
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: She just shrunk. He doesn't want to go. He can

855
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 4: hang out here or go home wild. You're gonna leave

856
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: your friend.

857
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 5: At your house, then you could go party.

858
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: That's so wild, that's weird.

859
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 4: And then she left, just like that, left her friend,

860
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: no her guests alone in my house while she ran

861
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: off to get wasted. I asked Tommy if he was

862
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: okay state He just smiled and said he didn't mind,

863
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: and parties weren't really his thing. I offered to make

864
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: him dinner. He said his favorite was grilled cheese and

865
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: tomato soup. So that's what I mean. They just become besties.

866
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: He's just like, all right, well, coolk and Newbot over

867
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 4: grilled cheese tomato soup.

868
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

869
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: We sat down and ate together at the kitchen table,

870
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: and we ended up talking for almost two hours. I've

871
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: learned more about Tommy in one night than I've learned

872
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: about my daughter in the last three years. He's studying literature,

873
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: loves poetry, huge Sylvia Plath fan. His favorite movie is

874
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: Coming By Your Name, Classic. His favorite color is sage

875
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 4: green classic classic.

876
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: He's meeting all the stereotypes. Love it, love it.

877
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: He told me he thinks my bookstore is beautiful. Said

878
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 4: he'd never been in a place that felt so safe.

879
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: He asked me about art. We talked about van Go

880
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: and Egon, she and Georgia.

881
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: Kef don't know how to say these names.

882
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: He asked questions about brush techniques and about how I

883
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: curate books for the shop. He actually listened to every word.

884
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: Eventually we moved to the living room. I asked if

885
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: he wanted to watch a movie. He said that I

886
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: could pick. I went with Pretty Woman, a classic in

887
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: one of guilty Pleasures. He curled up next to me

888
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 4: on the couch, legs folded beneath him like a cat,

889
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: and somewhere during the movie, his head ended up on

890
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: my shoulder.

891
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: What's happening?

892
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 2: This is why I said I cautiously liked up.

893
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: I was smart.

894
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: I was really hoping this wasn't gonna go into a

895
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: weird way. But with all of as I was reading it, yeah,

896
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 4: I was thinking it might have been.

897
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: Let's hold out a little hope for another page. Yeah

898
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: to it, it's just like it's a.

899
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: Fatherly yeah, yeah, until like I feel safe.

900
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Let's see his response to it.

901
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

902
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: I'm so scared.

903
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: I like don't want to reade.

904
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, to be platonic.

905
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: Okay, let's see. Oh god, my arm went around him.

906
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: We didn't speak, we just existed. At some point it

907
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 4: turned into full on spooning.

908
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: Why no, why no?

909
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: I mean obviously, like he's not a minor, Like I

910
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: think she's twenty five at this point, and so I'm

911
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 4: assuming he's around the shape.

912
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 3: But still, it's weird.

913
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: You're like twenty years old there, Okay. I had him

914
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: tucked against me. Both of us wore them under a blanket,

915
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: and then we kissed. Why your daughter's Bessie.

916
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: That's weird.

917
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: I mean it's not actually Bessie. She definitely doesn't care

918
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: about him, but still it is weird.

919
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: It's very weird.

920
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: I don't even know who started it. It just happened.

921
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 4: It was soft and slow and sweet. We didn't go further.

922
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: We just kissed for a while. It felt nice, It

923
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: felt good. It felt like something I hadn't felt in gears.

924
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: And then the front door slammed open. Ella came stumbling in,

925
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: wasted off her face, mascara, running dress, barely hanging on

926
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: with some guy's hands shoved down the back of her skirt.

927
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 6: What hey, Opie, let's maybe like worry about our kid

928
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 6: a little bit more than making out with the friend

929
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 6: she left at your house?

930
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Like can we not have said, like, hey, you can't

931
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: go to the party you have a guest here?

932
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like something?

933
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: What Like I get the falling into the wrong crowds,

934
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: but like, is there no.

935
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: Way to your hair tell?

936
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: Is there no way to parent that style? Yeah? Right,

937
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: I get, Like I know for certain cases, like sure,

938
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: she still won't listen, or she'll sneak out or something

939
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: but like, like, to me, it feels like you're just

940
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 2: cool with it, right.

941
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 4: She didn't even look at us, just giggled and dragged

942
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: him upstairs. Tommy immediately pulled away, face flushed, and said

943
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: he should go. I walked him to the door. We

944
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: didn't talk about what happened. I said thank you for

945
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: the company. He smiled and said he had a good night.

946
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: And this morning I woke up to a text from

947
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: him that said, I really enjoyed last night.

948
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: You are a good cuddler with some emoji faces.

949
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: God's helped me.

950
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: He is so cute.

951
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 4: Okay, and now I don't know what to do. Ella

952
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 4: is still asleep, probably hungover. I haven't even talked to her.

953
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: I don't know how to I don't even know if

954
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: she cares that she abandoned her friend, but run it.

955
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 4: I genuinely like Tommy, not just in a physical way.

956
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: He's sweet, he's smart, he listens, he's kind, He's everything

957
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: that I tried to teach Ella to be. And I

958
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: don't want to throw this away because it's messy, But

959
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: I also don't want to hurt anyone.

960
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: Least of all someone as good hearted as him. So

961
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: what the heck? Do I do.

962
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: Do I talk to Ella, Do I talk to Tommy?

963
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: Do I pretend nothing happen and.

964
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: Go back to eating reheated soup and hoping my daughter

965
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: doesn't choke on her own recklessness. Yeah, it's weird because

966
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: they're adults. They're adults, so we don't know Tommy's age.

967
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm assuming he's around twenty five if they're friends. But also,

968
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: like you know, she gets to be friends with people

969
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: that are younger.

970
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: But I mean, either way, it feels a little strange

971
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: that it was like a friend of your daughters.

972
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe I wonder if part of why this

973
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: feels so icky is because like he seems like such

974
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 4: a good father figure, right from like our.

975
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: Perspective, from his story, that's what it was.

976
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so it's like just hearing like our dad

977
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: talked about like kissing a younger boy is just very disgusting,

978
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: But like at the same time, it's kind of like, Okay, well,

979
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: a lot of people generally agree that like around twenty five,

980
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: you have a good head on your shoulders and like

981
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 4: brains developed. Yeah, like you're a little bit more able

982
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 4: to you know, date older people.

983
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was that combined with how you

984
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: seem concerned for your daughter, but also just kind of like, oh,

985
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: she does what she's gonna do, which, also I get it,

986
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: she's twenty five, Yeah, she is an adult, right.

987
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: Please I need advice.

988
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: I need to know if I'm not the only one

989
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: who has been in this kind of situation. I didn't

990
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: mean for any of this to happen on what should

991
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: have been at quiet night, and now I'm thinking about

992
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: what it might mean to kiss someone again, to be wanted,

993
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: to want someone who sees me. God to help me.

994
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: I think I might be falling for my daughter's femboy

995
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: best friend.

996
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: Help.

997
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 4: I don't think they're best friends. I think you know that, though,

998
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: But there are some comments. This commenter says, at first,

999
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: I thought this was going to be like your daughter's

1000
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 4: high school friend, and that would be horrible. But honestly,

1001
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: you're both adults, and his age gaps go, it could

1002
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: be a lot worse. Your daughter obviously has no romantic

1003
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: attraction towards Tommy, so that wouldn't be a problem as well.

1004
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: I get it.

1005
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: You know. I'm way younger than you.

1006
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: But I understand what happens a man when you're lonely

1007
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: for this long. If you like him, just call him.

1008
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: You're both adults. You'll sort it off and if it

1009
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: doesn't work, probably won't, but you'll enjoy while ass.

1010
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 5: You can call it off.

1011
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: Just call Tommy so you don't regret that you did it.

1012
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: And that's the end of our story.

1013
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: John here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story,

1014
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break of aths from our sponsors.

1015
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: I told my best friend I loved him, and he

1016
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: revealed a two decade secret.

1017
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 5: What is it?

1018
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: I want it all. My dearest friend in the world

1019
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: is a man named James. James and I grew up

1020
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: in the same town, a conservative Christian town in Nowhere, USA.

1021
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: The first time I met him was on the playground

1022
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: at school. He saw me sitting alone under a tree

1023
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: and came over to ask if I wanted to play

1024
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: with him and his friends. I said no, but he

1025
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: noticed I was reading a book about space, the Solar System.

1026
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: To be more precise. By the way, this comes from

1027
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: throw still fighting and if you want us to meet

1028
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the Arslage Okay storytime sub Breddit.

1029
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm Carly, I'm an gie, and we were here to

1030
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: give good advice, goofuy, but we don't have all the

1031
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: answers really know what we would do, so let us

1032
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: know what you would do in the comments and no pieces.

1033
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: So he sat down next to me and asked which

1034
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: planet I thought would be the coolest to visit. We

1035
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: ended up talking for the rest of recess about what

1036
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: we thought the other planets might be like, and when

1037
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: we went back to class, he introduced me to his

1038
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: friends as my new friend. We were inseparable from that

1039
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: point on. It was one of those things where the

1040
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: entire town, our parents included, had us married off by

1041
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: age eight or something we didn't understand at the time,

1042
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: of course, but I would go on family trips with

1043
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: his family, stay over at his place, and vice versa.

1044
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: Through most of elementary school, we'd get in trouble for

1045
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: talking during class every day, though not really because the

1046
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 2: teachers all loved him. This dude could charm his way

1047
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: out of anything. It was unreal. We were best friends.

1048
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: When we finally reached the awkward teenage years and dating

1049
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: became a thing. He asked me to the school dance

1050
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: and I said yes. We sort of started dating by default.

1051
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't think we ever talked about it explicitly, but

1052
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 2: I just started calling him my boyfriend to other people

1053
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: and we went with that. Very little changed about our relationship.

1054
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: We still basically did all the same stuff we used

1055
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: to do before, except our parents got stricter about the

1056
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: sleepovers and there was more hand holding and cuddling. Kissing

1057
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: and stuff. Was always difficult for me, and I didn't

1058
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: know why. But he never pushed me on it at all,

1059
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: not even once. The two times we tried. He was

1060
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: able to tell very quickly that I was uncomfortable, and

1061
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: he just shut the interaction down by messing up my

1062
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: hair playfully, saying, enough of that, how about we just

1063
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: watch a movie. I assumed one day I would get it. Well.

1064
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: I didn't. Sometime around fifteen years old, I started to

1065
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: realize the problem. I wasn't spicingly attracted to men. This

1066
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: was a very trying time for me. Given the kind

1067
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: of environment I grew up in, this was not considered acceptable.

1068
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: My parents were extreme religious. After about eight months of

1069
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: identity crisis over this, I decided to muster up the

1070
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: courage to tell James before anyone else. I didn't know

1071
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: what to expect. I was terrified. I went over to

1072
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: his house trembling. He had done what he always did,

1073
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: made my favorite snacks, and got the controllers in my

1074
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: favorite game, Uh Diddy Kong Racing ready to go. He

1075
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: opened the door, gave me a hug, and I came in.

1076
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: I was so scared. We sat down and he looked

1077
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: at me for a second before putting his hand on

1078
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: mine and asking what was wrong? So I tried to

1079
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: tell him. I got halfway through the sentence, struggling to

1080
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: actually say I'm gad before he just interrupted me and said,

1081
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: you're yes, I know. Is there anything else? Followed by

1082
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: that goofy smile I love so much. I just froze

1083
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: in place. I asked him if he was mad, and

1084
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: he just laughed and told me that he loved me

1085
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: the way I was, and this was the way I was.

1086
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: AH so nice A yeah, h stop it.

1087
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: I started crying and jumped into his arms. It fell

1088
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: like ten minutes at least before he finally interrupted me

1089
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: in characteristic fashion, remarking, however, I will be mad if

1090
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: you let the pizza rolls I made get cold, So

1091
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 2: how about we stop crying and start eating?

1092
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: I love this.

1093
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: Wow. We stayed best friends after that. We never actually

1094
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: had a breakup talk, but we did start to date

1095
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: other people. We talked and hung out almost every day

1096
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: until we graduated and he went away to a big

1097
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: name college. The night before he left, he came and

1098
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: picked me up and we drove around town and hit

1099
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: all our favorite spots. He drove me back home at

1100
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: three am or something in the rain, and I took

1101
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: his hand during the drive home and fell asleep on

1102
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: his shoulder. I remember wondering then for a moment if

1103
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: I should just marry him anyway. But he was going

1104
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: away to college, and I'm not attracted to men, so

1105
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 2: it probably couldn't work, no matter how I felt about

1106
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: him otherwise.

1107
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably.

1108
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: He promised to stay in touch, but I didn't know

1109
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 2: if what happened. Well. It did, obviously, it wasn't like before,

1110
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: but he made sure to call me every week just

1111
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: to check up on me and see how things were going.

1112
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: I went to college close to home. We'd talk about

1113
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: how hard college was, whoever we were dating at the time,

1114
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: and whatever drama was going on. During his junior year,

1115
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: my parents found out that I was They did not

1116
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: react well, and I was basically out of my home

1117
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: to save me. My dad going on about me eating

1118
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: Jesus forty days in the desert like a lunatic. My

1119
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: parents are good people, so this didn't last, and they

1120
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: have more than made it up to me since and

1121
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: worked hard to unlearn their bad programming. But that was

1122
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: an awful time. I did what I always do and

1123
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 2: called James. He talked to me for about an hour

1124
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: and then got his mom to drive up to get

1125
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: me so I could stay in his old room. Then

1126
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: he flew home the next day pretty much just cheer

1127
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: me up and make sure I was all right. Vintage

1128
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: driving around in circles singing like idiots and two am

1129
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: junk food runs did the trick. I later found out

1130
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: from my mom that he had also gone and confronted

1131
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: my parents, stood up for me and told them they

1132
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: should be ashamed of themselves. Wow, he said, if they

1133
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: were willing to lose their daughter over this, they were

1134
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 2: unfit parents and not the second family I thought you were.

1135
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: Wow.

1136
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: Wow.

1137
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: Hey, James like the best human ever.

1138
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, he really is.

1139
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: My parents worship him. So this was effective, and my

1140
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: mom still tells this story to this day. Once again,

1141
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: I remember wondering at the time, will I ever know

1142
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: anyone else in my life who would do this for me.

1143
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: But he was heading back to college and he was

1144
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: still a man, so I didn't do anything. Years went by,

1145
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: he got married, I got a long term girlfriend. We

1146
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: stayed close the entire time. We saw each other a

1147
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: lot less, but it was still great. Every time he visited,

1148
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: and we had frequent texts and calls. I looked forward

1149
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: to his visits all year, and then tragedy struck. His

1150
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: wife divorced him.

1151
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1152
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: I never liked her, but he did. I think she

1153
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: used him for a green card and he was too

1154
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: sweet to notice. But that's neither here nor there. He

1155
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: came back home, so I saw him a lot more.

1156
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: Obviously he was crushed, but we got through it together.

1157
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: And then I got the diagnosis at age twenty seven.

1158
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: Oh wow, a decent chance of survival, but I had

1159
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: to start treatment right away. This experience has changed me

1160
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: and my outlook on life more than anything else that's

1161
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: ever happened to me combined. At first, everyone was there

1162
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: for me. I was getting visitors daily, friends, family, everyone,

1163
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: But as the weeks turn into months, it all stopped.

1164
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: Most people, even my friends, started coming once a week.

1165
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: Then once a month than many, not at all. When

1166
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: things were looking bad around the seven or eight month mark,

1167
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: my girlfriend broke up with me.

1168
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: What why would you do that?

1169
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: That's terrible, terrible girl.

1170
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: Almost two years in now and there's only five people

1171
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: who are still here. My mom, my dad, my sister,

1172
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: my best friend Amanda, and James. He almost can't talk

1173
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: about it without crying. But James is here every single day,

1174
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: every day for hours. He may have missed twenty days

1175
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: in almost two years due to work related travel. And

1176
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: even then he calls me. He comes in and asks

1177
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: how his a mumu, which he's called me since we

1178
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: were kids because I like cows and those are my initials.

1179
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: That's funny is doing and listens. He brings my favorite things,

1180
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: plays games with me, sings to me, and shows me

1181
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: pictures of places he's been that I'd like to go.

1182
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: He sits there and holds my hand in silence so

1183
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: I won't be alone until the doctors tell him it's

1184
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: time to go, and then he does it again the

1185
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: next day.

1186
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: Wow.

1187
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: I've never seen him cry or show any sadness. If

1188
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: I even casually say something like if I get better,

1189
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: he'll immediately interject with when when you get better, he

1190
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 2: just won't give up on me. The only other person

1191
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: who is there like this is my mom. Even my

1192
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: dad's sister and Amanda, who have also shown up in

1193
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: big ways, are not this consistent. She's proven to me

1194
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: that no matter what happened in the past and what

1195
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: we may have clashed over, she loves me like no

1196
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: one else except maybe James anyway. So James is here

1197
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: all the time now, and I realized something. At some

1198
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: point I fell in love with him when this happened.

1199
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: I really don't know. It might have been like this

1200
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: the entire time, but I was forced by my spicy

1201
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: related orientation to push it out of my head for

1202
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: a long time. I feel like the intensity of this

1203
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: experience has allowed me to see clearly, and I know

1204
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: he's the one. He is not with anyone. He actually

1205
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: hasn't dated at all since his divorce, and that was

1206
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: multiple years ago. I don't know if I should say anything.

1207
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: If the feelings are mutual, then I might be able

1208
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: to pass away or live happy. But if the feelings

1209
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: are not mutual, then I just ruined a lifelong relationship

1210
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: with the man I love most in the world. Right

1211
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: before I might pass away.

1212
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: I don't think that would ruin your relationship.

1213
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: I mean you kind of already did that, yeah, in

1214
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: the pass being let yo.

1215
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: I have a feeling James is right there too.

1216
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 3: I mean, doing all this can I guess you don't.

1217
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 4: Do all this for someone that you don't love.

1218
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: I told my mom this concern, and she went off

1219
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: on me, told me, in no uncertain terms, to get

1220
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: my hat out of my butt or something like that

1221
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: and do it. She thinks he's been in love with

1222
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: me forever, and I'm blind. I agree with your mother.

1223
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: Should I do it? Should I tell James I'm in

1224
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: love with him? And see what happens? We have it

1225
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: update though, But what do you say? I say, do it?

1226
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: I agree, because that must be so confusing, like Opie

1227
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 4: realizing that she's attracted to women, but then being like, okay,

1228
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 4: but I emotionally am in love with this may I

1229
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: and then like now, I mean that's the thing too,

1230
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 4: is that it's like it's all fluid and yeah whatever.

1231
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 3: So that could just be your exception.

1232
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: Maybe this is fine now yeah, maybe maybe just exclusively

1233
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: by for him, for James, one percent by James.

1234
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my spicy orientation James.

1235
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 4: James, it's kind of just James something, but dam I

1236
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: had that girlfriend for a while.

1237
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but pretty much update.

1238
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if anyone will see this one, but

1239
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: I felt I needed to post it. It's been an

1240
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: emotionally exhausting few days, but in a good way. Whoo,

1241
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: So I told him Whooo. I decided to tell him

1242
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: I love him by showing him the post. I didn't

1243
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: want to say it. I wanted him to read it.

1244
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: On the day I was going to do this, he

1245
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: came in as usual chipper as ever. He greeted me,

1246
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: asked how I was, and got me talking about my

1247
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: day like he always does. He knows I need to

1248
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: feel normal, so we do normal things and have normal talks. Eventually,

1249
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: the conversation came to me finally taking his advice and

1250
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: joining Reddit. He said that was great and asked what

1251
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: my username was, but I didn't tell him. He made

1252
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: some jokes and tried to get me to tell him

1253
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: for a bit, then he moved on, Oh okay. He

1254
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: asked if I'd made any posts yet. I told him

1255
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: I had made one. He got all excited and started

1256
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: asking me what it was about. I was silent for

1257
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: maybe ten or fifteen seconds, just smiling at him. He

1258
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: got that concerned look he has sometimes and asked if

1259
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: I was doing all right. Then I just said it

1260
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: was about you. Things got real. His eyes got watery,

1261
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: his cheeks were turning red but also losing color. At

1262
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: the same time. He looked tense, emotional, but completely frozen

1263
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: in blaze. His mouth opened slightly and he inhaled very slowly.

1264
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he was even aware he was doing it.

1265
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: He was just staring at me, completely paralyzed. I took

1266
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: out my phone and asked him if he wanted to

1267
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: read it. He nodded very slowly, so I pulled up

1268
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: the post and handed on my phone and he took it.

1269
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: He never looked away from me. His hands were shaking,

1270
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: which made me feel better because mine were two. He

1271
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: finally looked down at the phone and started reading. I

1272
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: just sat there and watched him read it. I had

1273
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: basically written out our entire s story together to provide

1274
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: context and ask if I should tell him so. It

1275
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: took him a while, I'd say maybe seven or eight minutes.

1276
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: I watched his face gradually display every emotion you could

1277
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: ever see on a person. My heart was racing like

1278
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: crazy around the middle. Actual tears started rolling down his face,

1279
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: but he just kept reading. When he finished, he held

1280
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: the phone in his hand and stared at it for

1281
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: a good fifteen or twenty seconds. Then he put it

1282
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: down next to him on the couch and sat there

1283
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: with his head down, not looking at me. He placed

1284
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: his hands in his lap in locking his fingers. His

1285
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: hands were shaking. I started to ask him if everything

1286
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: was all right, but before I could finish, his expression broke.

1287
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: He exhaled into a weak but incredibly tender, quivering smile,

1288
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: and he just reached out and pulled me into a hug.

1289
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 5: Oh okay.

1290
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: I buried my head in his chest and his arms

1291
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: just wrapped around me. I melted into him. He was

1292
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: so gentle, It felt so easy, it felt so right.

1293
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: Then he started crying, and then I started crying. He's

1294
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: been coming here through two years of treatments, and I'd

1295
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: never seen him cry until now. But he held me

1296
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: for a while. But however long it was, it wasn't

1297
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: long enough. He still hadn't actually said a single word

1298
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: since I finished talking, but I guess he didn't really

1299
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: need to. Then he finally spoke now it is. When

1300
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: he finally pulled away, his face was red from crying,

1301
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: but he just looked so happy. He looked at me

1302
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: for a bit. It was kind of cute because he

1303
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: had a little trouble maintaining eye contact, which he usually doesn't.

1304
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: He was like a little boy again. Then he finally

1305
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: looked right at me and said, you are the only

1306
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: thing I've ever wanted.

1307
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 5: So sweet.

1308
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I too.

1309
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: Then I started crying again, and he started crying again,

1310
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: and he pulled me in and he held me again.

1311
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: I wish it never ended. A little bit later, once

1312
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: we exhausted our crying capacity, I showed him the post comments.

1313
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: Then after he finished reading, he kissed me. It felt

1314
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: so easy, not scary at all, and just write. He

1315
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: asked me if it lived up to my day dreams,

1316
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: and I chuckled and said yes. Then he said I'm

1317
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: not so sure myself. I think I need more data

1318
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: and kissed me again.

1319
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 4: Oh this is so great.

1320
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: He is so ridiculous, but this was smooth as butter.

1321
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: Then after that we started talking, and I guess he

1322
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: told me everything too. He said he'd loved me since

1323
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: we were little kids. He told me He has every drawing,

1324
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: letter and craft I ever made for him in a

1325
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: safe that he took with him to college and has

1326
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: taken everywhere he's ever lived.

1327
01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, this is the bad guys, is so cute,

1328
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: so sweet. This is the best wrong com ever and.

1329
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 5: It's real movie. Literally do it gone? Oh my god.

1330
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, this is just too cute, so amazing.

1331
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: You need a second.

1332
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: I'll take a walk after, I'm saying in my feels

1333
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: for now. Yeah, we talked about the day I came

1334
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: out as him, and how he'd figured it out earlier,

1335
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: but he struggled to accept it for months in secret

1336
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: because he had lived his entire life up to that

1337
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: point assuming we would be a family and wanting nothing else.

1338
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 3: And he got married to someone else.

1339
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah wait, that's actually kind of crazy.

1340
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: He married someone else.

1341
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: Obviously they got divorced, but like, but he married someone

1342
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: else and still had all of that stuff from her.

1343
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they were bestie.

1344
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like his best friend.

1345
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, exactly, he was in love.

1346
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: With He told me he thought about her last night

1347
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: before college all the time, and he kept hoping that

1348
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: entire night I'd say something before he left, because then

1349
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: he'd have transferred colleges to stay with me. Oh. He

1350
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: told me he actually took a very long way home

1351
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: just to prolong the time when we were holding hands

1352
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: and I was sleeping on his shoulder, and that it

1353
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: was to this day his favorite memory.

1354
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 5: Who it is sad.

1355
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: Then he looked at me with those piercing green eyes

1356
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: and said, for me, there has never been anyone else

1357
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: he loved once, which was me, And then struggled through

1358
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of rebounds. Even though he had learned to

1359
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: bury it and move on with his life and was

1360
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: happy in our friendship, his heart had only ever belonged

1361
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: to me. Honestly, I guess I should have known this.

1362
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: I was flustered and deeply moved. We sat and talked

1363
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: and reminisced some more, mostly about when we were kids.

1364
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: I found out some things I never knew because he

1365
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: avoided telling me how romantic some things were for him

1366
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: after I came out. But I also kind of realized

1367
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: I think they felt romantic to me too. Then he

1368
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: sang me some of our songs. His voice is so beautiful,

1369
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: dp it.

1370
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 4: I would be in so many tears if I heard

1371
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: that that's insane.

1372
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: We had another embrace and another kiss, both still felt divine.

1373
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: Then I brought up this spicy sleep question, and oh

1374
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: my god, it was the cutest thing ever. There's something cuter.

1375
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: I barely got to say anything before he started tripping

1376
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: over himself, like, look, I don't even care, I don't

1377
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: need that. I just want to wake up with you

1378
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 2: every day, which was sweet. But then I told him

1379
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: that even though I didn't know how that would go,

1380
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to try with him anyway when I got better,

1381
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: and oh my god, he turned tomato red and could

1382
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: barely look at me. This man has been married and

1383
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: had six girlfriends, but he completely just falls all over

1384
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: himself with the thought. God, it was adorable. Then we

1385
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: talked about the k He is so sure I'm going

1386
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: to make it. It's so touching. It took a little

1387
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: while to get him to take the other possibility seriously.

1388
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: When I finally did and told him that it's the

1389
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: reason I didn't tell him sooner, he held my hand

1390
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: and told me that if that happens, he'd be okay

1391
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: because he'll always know that he was one of the

1392
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: lucky ones because he was mine.

1393
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm literally I'm gonna cry.

1394
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to take Jesus. I almost lost it.

1395
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: Then he said, if we don't have that much time left,

1396
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: we better make sure every minute counts. I said that's

1397
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: pretty hard to do in a hospital, and he replied,

1398
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: what do you mean. We're both here and that makes

1399
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: this the best place on earth.

1400
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 5: How was this real? This is insane?

1401
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 4: What so insane?

1402
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 7: And oh my god, Oh my god?

1403
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 5: Wow?

1404
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 4: How does everything get blurry?

1405
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: How is this story is getting really blurry?

1406
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened.

1407
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: It just warning.

1408
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: The halfway through, the words just kind of disappeared.

1409
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: I know why.

1410
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: I jeered up again, and he held me one last time.

1411
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: Then the doctors came in. He kissed me good night.

1412
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 2: We both said I love you, but it felt so different.

1413
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: It's never felt so good to say or hear those words.

1414
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: Then he smiled at me and left.

1415
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 4: It's so refreshing to cry over a happy story, so

1416
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 4: refreshed a sad one like this is amazing.

1417
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: I was so excited. The first thing I did was

1418
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: call my mom and she was just ecstatic. I think

1419
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: she might be happier than me, which is saying something.

1420
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: As soon as I told her what happened and that

1421
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: James and I are together. She just started crying and

1422
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: talking about what a good boy he is and that

1423
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: she can rest easy now because she knows I will

1424
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: always be loved and taken care of. I feel like

1425
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: a teenager again. I never thought i'd feel this way

1426
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: again in my life. I never even imagined if I did,

1427
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: it would be for a man.

1428
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: That's that's so funny.

1429
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: God, I love him so much now. As long as

1430
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,479
Speaker 2: my health cooperates, I'll be one of the lucky ones too,

1431
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: because I am his.

1432
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 4: Oh my god, my stomach just turned in like a

1433
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 4: It got like butterflies from a relationship that's not even

1434
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: my I'm.

1435
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: Just so happy. I have no thoughts. That was amazing.

1436
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: What an amazing way to end the story.