Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamar Judge. But
Speaker 2: Tamra Judge is filming at this current moment. She's going
Speaker 2: to come in a couple of minutes late. So I
Speaker 2: am going to cover the first Housewife headline without her.
Speaker 2: And it's also involving the Real Housewives of Orange County
Speaker 2: Shannon Badour, and I'm bringing in my producer, Matt or
Speaker 2: Our producer, Matt Hi.
Speaker 3: Matt, Hey, Hey, I know.
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Speaker 2: two teas and a pod sweatshirt.
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Speaker 2: Tap the link. So this one Queens of Bravo posted,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty much everywhere. John Jansen sues Shannon Badour
Speaker 2: for seventy five thousand dollars she allegedly borrowed for a facelift.
Speaker 2: John filed the lawsuit against Shannon for breach or oral
Speaker 2: contract and promisory fraud. She turned to him for financial
Speaker 2: support in twenty twenty two, borrowing forty thousand dollars via
Speaker 2: wire transfer for a facelift, allegedly, then he gave her
Speaker 2: another thirty five thousand via personal check. What I was
Speaker 2: told was he sent her a promissory note, and she said,
Speaker 2: and this is when they were no longer even together
Speaker 2: and she just was needing to borrow this money. He
Speaker 2: sent her a promisory note that said, you know, like
Speaker 2: you're gonna pay this off with interest, and she said,
Speaker 2: I'm not signing this because it's a loan between a
Speaker 2: boyfriend and girlfriend. And you know, as you guys have heard,
Speaker 2: she's also repeatedly talked about in the press that she
Speaker 2: covered everything having to do with their life. So I
Speaker 2: think that's why this is getting so ugly before we
Speaker 2: get into the other ends and outs. After this news broke,
Speaker 2: Butador spoke out in a statement saying, I'm shocked and
Speaker 2: disappointed that John has filed a lawsuit. My attorney has
Speaker 2: been in constant communication with his council. I agreed to
Speaker 2: pay John what he wanted because I knew that attorney
Speaker 2: fees would surpass the amount sought, but more importantly, to
Speaker 2: eliminate the negative emotional components that come with a lawsuit,
Speaker 2: it is important that I continue to focus on the
Speaker 2: positive aspects of my life and move forward. John declined
Speaker 2: the offer because he refused to sign a mutual non
Speaker 2: disparagement agreement. I was hoping that if I met his
Speaker 2: baseless demand, we could at least use this an opportunity
Speaker 2: to bring complete closure to this chapter in my life. Okay,
Speaker 2: so she refused to sign the promisory note. He's refusing
Speaker 2: to sign this not on disparagement agreement. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on this, Mac, Because I know I might be
Speaker 2: a little biased, so I want to hear yours first.
Speaker 4: I've always thought that the John was a little bit
Speaker 4: of a fame horror type guy. I do personally think
Speaker 4: you know, Shannon had a DOUI she's in a tough
Speaker 4: spot right now because it doesn't seem like she's taking
Speaker 4: full accountability, and now it kind of feels like he's
Speaker 4: kicking her when she's down. In my opinion, I don't
Speaker 4: know Letty's and one borrow seventy five thousand dollars is
Speaker 4: a lot of money, and if he did, if she
Speaker 4: did promise to pay it back, I understand why he
Speaker 4: would want it back now, But it feels like he
Speaker 4: only wants it back now because she's in a tough
Speaker 4: spot on the show with the public he's dating Alexis.
Speaker 4: It just feels a little like he doesn't necessarily need
Speaker 4: the money, but he's doing it for publicity of it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think especially if she is talking about him
Speaker 2: and all of the things that he's done to her,
Speaker 2: but going into even just loans in general, the way
Speaker 2: I feel about them is especially with people that you're
Speaker 2: either in a relationship with or it's tricky or you're
Speaker 2: back and forth. I personally don't believe in giving a
Speaker 2: loan because this is the kind of shit that happens.
Speaker 2: You either are going to say, listen, I want to
Speaker 2: give you this money. I'm giving you this money and
Speaker 2: it's for you, or no, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 2: loaning you the money, but loaning somebody money without I mean,
Speaker 2: the first red flag was when she wouldn't sign the
Speaker 2: promisory note.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think also a point that needs to be made
Speaker 4: is like, if you need money, that's one thing, but
Speaker 4: specifically for a cosmetic procedure, it's something you don't necessarily need.
Speaker 4: So him kind of giving her the money to get
Speaker 4: a facelift, it's just it's on both sides. For me,
Speaker 4: it just feels like ridiculous, Like she didn't need a facelift,
Speaker 4: and if you don't have the money yourself to get
Speaker 4: a facelift, someone giving you that money to do that. Also,
Speaker 4: it's like you shouldn't you rather be like, hey, maybe
Speaker 4: you worry about your financial situation than going for a
Speaker 4: cosmetic procedure that costs tens of thousands of dollars that
Speaker 4: you truly don't need right now.
Speaker 2: But then this also leads me to and I'm having
Speaker 2: empathy for her in this moment, but this leads me to, like,
Speaker 2: going back in the past, that he wasn't attracted to
Speaker 2: her allegedly all of those things. I'm like, had he
Speaker 2: made her feel that in order for them to be together,
Speaker 2: she had to look better, and that's why he agreed
Speaker 2: to give her the money. I could be completely wrong,
Speaker 2: but that could maybe be where her headspaces. But yes,
Speaker 2: I agree with you, but we also know we're watching
Speaker 2: her in real time getting glam every day, doing all
Speaker 2: of these things to be on a television show that
Speaker 2: aren't a requirement, like you're getting glam and Housewives doesn't
Speaker 2: pay for that, and that adds up when you're filming
Speaker 2: five six days a week.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: We're also we're being told that allegedly they were broken
Speaker 4: up when it's happened, but that doesn't matter because obviously
Speaker 4: they had a volatile relationship. They were broken up and
Speaker 4: got back together, broken up and got back together. Where
Speaker 4: they weren't they together when she got the DUIs and
Speaker 4: that what happened they got they were had a fight.
Speaker 2: And whether they were fully together or spending time together,
Speaker 2: they were publicly spending time together and communication, which is
Speaker 2: where money being lent and shared and whatever and whatever
Speaker 2: money situation they had from the very beginning. I think
Speaker 2: it was a mistake anyway, Like if you feel like
Speaker 2: you're buying your significant other, if that's what she was doing,
Speaker 2: and now this is her repayment, that's going to get
Speaker 2: ugly too.
Speaker 4: Right, If the verbal agreement was that she was going
Speaker 4: to pay it back, at some point, she should be
Speaker 4: wanting to pay it back. It feels like maybe, maybe
Speaker 4: possibly Shannon wants to present that she has more financially
Speaker 4: than she does, and this is another way of kind
Speaker 4: of him showing us the viewers, Hey, look, she can't
Speaker 4: even afford to pay for her own faithlift if she
Speaker 4: can't afford to you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 4: feel like that's another kind of layer to what's happening here,
Speaker 4: is kind of trying to lift the veil of who
Speaker 4: what's really going on that she isn't showing the viewers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I mean I think the entire thing
Speaker 2: is incredibly messy. And also, yes, you can't say if
Speaker 2: you're going to say you're going to borrow money from somebody,
Speaker 2: then you can't set the terms on it, if you're
Speaker 2: deciding to pay them back or not. But if I
Speaker 2: were to ever loan money, which I wouldn't, it's either
Speaker 2: a gift or not happening at all. I most certainly
Speaker 2: wouldn't loan money to somebody that refused to sign an
Speaker 2: agreement saying they were going to pay me back, right Like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If this was me and you and you said, Teddy,
Speaker 2: I need to borrow ten thousand dollars, I would either go, Matt,
Speaker 2: here's ten thousand dollars. Or I would say, all right,
Speaker 2: here's our payment plan. This is the thing, sign it.
Speaker 2: Here we go. And if you said I'm not signing that,
Speaker 2: who in the world then pays them?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 4: Writes the check yeah.
Speaker 2: Or the wire transfer, as we've read, But I mean
Speaker 2: it really is a doozy, and I think it goes
Speaker 2: to show on how brutal this my guess, is how
Speaker 2: brutal this season's about to be. Because this is also
Speaker 2: some women. I don't know that Shannon has even publicly
Speaker 2: shared that she's had a facelift, Like I've shared that
Speaker 2: I've had a necklift, But there are a lot of
Speaker 2: women on these shows that don't publicly talk about it
Speaker 2: that often. So I think that, yeah, I mean, she
Speaker 2: may have casually shared it, but I don't think that
Speaker 2: it's something that she was shared. She shared it because
Speaker 2: it was shown on the show, but she hasn't been
Speaker 2: openly talking about it. Like me, every time I show
Speaker 2: my neck, I'm like, here's my neck, left heart, here's
Speaker 2: the updates. This is the doctor, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: who did hers.
Speaker 4: Right, But isn't that kind of telling of Shannon kind
Speaker 4: of feels like she doesn't want to be open about
Speaker 4: what's really happening and wants to kind of just be
Speaker 4: in this kind of delusional world that we've seen with
Speaker 4: her drinking. I feel like we haven't seen her fully
Speaker 4: accept the level of what she did. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like we just are seeing now that Shannon isn't.
Speaker 4: We got glimpses last season. I feel like when we
Speaker 4: saw her go to production of who Shannon really is,
Speaker 4: and I think this is just another way of us
Speaker 4: being like, oh, okay, so Shannon is is maybe not
Speaker 4: being honest with us as viewers about what's really happening
Speaker 4: in her lif.
Speaker 3: And that's and that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You want to have empathy for somebody, but you want
Speaker 2: to have empathy for the person that's actually who they
Speaker 2: are and not just who they're trying to present themselves
Speaker 2: to be. So if Shannon is being authentic, then these
Speaker 2: are parts of her story that she has to share,
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly, and that's the
Speaker 2: only way she's gonna grow or get better or feel
Speaker 2: better or any of those things. But I mean, we
Speaker 2: don't really need to harp on this anymore. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like we've we've cleared it up. Shannon. If
Speaker 2: you want this to be done, pay him the money,
Speaker 2: pay him the money, and just one work.
Speaker 4: Thing before we go. What can I borrow seventy five
Speaker 4: thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: Absolutely fucking not. You know what, I'll loan you seventy
Speaker 2: five dollars and you don't need to pay me back
Speaker 2: with interest. And I'm not going to make you sign
Speaker 2: a note, but any any more than that, it ain't
Speaker 2: fucking happening.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not signing it.
Speaker 1: Not the Spanish.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a quick break and then
Speaker 2: we'll bring Tama Judge on when she gets in. All Right,
Speaker 2: you guys, we are back from our break and traffic
Speaker 2: has died down, which means Tamra Judge is here.
Speaker 3: Im hey, same old shit, different day. Busted my ass
Speaker 3: over here trying to make buck you.
Speaker 2: Know what, that's what we gotta freaking do. It's a Monday,
Speaker 2: and we just hit in the ground running.
Speaker 3: But there's a few people that don't want they're not
Speaker 3: going to be making some bucks moving forward.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so many people not making bucks.
Speaker 3: And here's a what is going on?
Speaker 2: Well, hold on the first bucks. Not nobody's going to
Speaker 2: be making I really need to know, because this first
Speaker 2: one is about Robin Dixon, who always texts me back
Speaker 2: the second I text her, like she's a good Texter.
Speaker 2: We've always had like a good communication, especially since Bravo
Speaker 2: con and I texted her the little link from the
Speaker 2: Jasmine brand where it says Robin Dixon allegedly not returning
Speaker 2: to Real Housewives the Potomac next season. I texted her
Speaker 2: and said, please tell me this isn't true. You know
Speaker 2: what I've heard back? Critics fucking crickets.
Speaker 3: Uh. Oh, She's probably not allowed to talk about it,
Speaker 3: and Bravo has not announced that. I have heard that
Speaker 3: Bravo did announce Candace's exit. The singer who joined the
Speaker 3: series on season three tells People exclusively that she won't
Speaker 3: be returning to the reality series for the upcoming ninth season.
Speaker 3: So she quit. She absolutely quit, and then Bravo was
Speaker 3: pretty much forced to make their own statement. I would
Speaker 3: imagine that they wanted to make it after the reunion,
Speaker 3: wouldn't you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it says Bravo famously doesn't comment on casting,
Speaker 2: but a source close to production confirmed to People Dillar
Speaker 2: Bass that made the choice to leave the franchise on
Speaker 2: her own.
Speaker 3: Bravo basically announced that she is exiting the show, so
Speaker 3: they did confirm it.
Speaker 2: But this is my question with everybody going rogue and
Speaker 2: just announcing whenever they feel like it before reunions after
Speaker 2: like this is it's everybody's I you know, I can't
Speaker 2: pat myself on the back, but you know what, I
Speaker 2: set this trend. I'm just saying, when you're fired or
Speaker 2: you quit, you just tell it right away.
Speaker 3: Bravo TV and Bravo Daily Dish they did a post
Speaker 3: on Instagram with Candace's face and the caption is I
Speaker 3: have decided to take a break from Potomac. Candace Dillard
Speaker 3: Bassett announces she will not be returning to Potomac after
Speaker 3: six seasons. It kind of sounds like she is taking
Speaker 3: a break for some reason. You could tell last season
Speaker 3: or the you know, the season we're on right now.
Speaker 3: She wasn't that engaged. She walked away a lot, She
Speaker 3: acted like she was kind of over it. So clearly
Speaker 3: something's going on. And maybe it's just the cast she
Speaker 3: has a problem with. And it's like, if this is
Speaker 3: what the cast is, I'm out.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, well, I mean now we don't
Speaker 2: even know what the cast is because feel like everyone's
Speaker 2: getting the boot. But I also think if she is
Speaker 2: wanting to get pregnant, if she is wanting to do
Speaker 2: these things that she's talked about on.
Speaker 3: This She said she wants to sing more too, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can feel like one. We always felt like
Speaker 2: this season she was one foot in, one foot out,
Speaker 2: and maybe she wanted to make that call before anybody
Speaker 2: else made that call for her.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. We had Candy who exited, now we have
Speaker 3: Candace exited, and normally you don't see housewife's exiting. And
Speaker 3: you know what, housewife exited and said she will never
Speaker 3: ever ever go back. I know, Lisa Rena, did I
Speaker 3: tell you that? I said that, and I thought, no,
Speaker 3: come on, she'll come back. But I guess life after
Speaker 3: Bravo has been good to her. She's doing a lot
Speaker 3: of acting jobs, and she said she's never going to
Speaker 3: go back to Beverly Hills, which comes me out because
Speaker 3: she's so good on it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody gets pushed to their breaking point,
Speaker 2: you know, like she just had had enough. She'd given
Speaker 2: it so much, and then there is always that fear
Speaker 2: when you're on reality television show, if they don't have
Speaker 2: me anymore, if I quit or whatever it is, will
Speaker 2: I ever be able to create the income or the
Speaker 2: life or all of those things without it? And I
Speaker 2: think she's done it plus some Yeah, so she's like,
Speaker 2: why would I What is it going to do for
Speaker 2: me to go back? Add stressed in my life. People
Speaker 2: forget how much you're actually filming.
Speaker 3: It's too demanding. Even though it's only like three four
Speaker 3: months of the year, it's a lot of work. I'm
Speaker 3: exhausted right now, like yeah, mentally, physically, all those things
Speaker 3: just spent. Like I could sleep for a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said on Jennifer Hudson. I'm grateful for the experience.
Speaker 2: I think it made me a better actor working with
Speaker 2: those women. I just did a movie called Mommy Meanest,
Speaker 2: which I trained for for eight years on that show.
Speaker 2: I have a lot to pull from after working with
Speaker 2: all of these women, you know, different psychologies of different women.
Speaker 2: I never would have come across that if I didn't
Speaker 2: do the show. I am grateful for that, and I
Speaker 2: am the person that I am today because of it.
Speaker 2: But I will never go back. And when she says never,
Speaker 2: like she said she was going to quit and then
Speaker 2: she quit.
Speaker 3: She quit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she isn't one to mince her words. She
Speaker 2: may you know, she may have caused drama and then
Speaker 2: been like, oh shit, sorry, I didn't mean that, or whatever,
Speaker 2: but also the quality of life is probably better.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt that being on the
Speaker 3: show is exhausting. It's mentally just fucked with your head.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you're just don't want to do it. You
Speaker 3: don't want to do it, you're tired. So I get
Speaker 3: where she was at. I was like that when I
Speaker 3: got fired. It was, you know, a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 2: But you know, even though she could be an asshole
Speaker 2: on the show, her natural demeanor isn't one of drama.
Speaker 2: Like she's a housewife. Like if you post something for her,
Speaker 2: you say something like I text her the other day
Speaker 2: because we were watching Lie Frankenstein and I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, my girls have a crush on the boy
Speaker 2: that's in Lisa Frankenstein and we've pulled him up to
Speaker 2: stock him and it's Delilah's boyfriend. And like she's just
Speaker 2: so like, oh my gosh, the support of watching the show,
Speaker 2: that's awesome, Bubba.
Speaker 3: Like she's just she's been very supportive. She's reached out
Speaker 3: to me several times to tell me how the gummies
Speaker 3: and lights Out have changed her life and how she's
Speaker 3: able to sleep and all that. So she's always been
Speaker 3: very very supportive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean on our next episode, we are
Speaker 2: going to have Neka on which I think we can
Speaker 2: grill into her a little bit more about some of
Speaker 2: these alleged exits on Potomac. But let's let's shift gears here.
Speaker 2: This is from Kyle. Kyle Richards hasn't spoken to Dree
Speaker 2: since the reunion. This is from page six on her
Speaker 2: Amazon lives TikTok. We haven't spoken at all, but I've
Speaker 2: always supported Duri since she joined the show. It was
Speaker 2: about people saying she was phony because of her accent.
Speaker 2: I defended her with that. She said, saying, when you
Speaker 2: live with somebody who has an accent, you can pick
Speaker 2: up on an accent. I'm like that too with the
Speaker 2: Dog with Lisa Rinna in Hong Kong with Lisa Vanner Pump.
Speaker 2: I always stood up for her. I think she's making
Speaker 2: her points of the you know, the amount of times
Speaker 2: that she has at her back. The text being read
Speaker 2: was very hurtful to me, and she said that I
Speaker 2: was being manipulative, and it was actually the complete opposite.
Speaker 2: I was actually being very forthright and saying I have
Speaker 2: a lot at stake right now and this is really
Speaker 2: hard for me. I have a lot on my plate.
Speaker 2: I know what's coming at me. You and I, these
Speaker 2: are stupid arguments. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm curious to see if she'll leave me back
Speaker 3: next season?
Speaker 2: Who Kyle Dori Dorey.
Speaker 3: I feel like she's doing all the things now that
Speaker 3: the show's over. Do you try to remain on the show.
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows that there's going to be a
Speaker 3: shake up, and I just think going after Kyle is
Speaker 3: her saving grace.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think where it's gonna get a
Speaker 2: little bit tricky is do I think she'll still be
Speaker 2: on the show most likely? I wonder. I've been hearing
Speaker 2: rumors that i Leen Davidson too, which something that I
Speaker 2: did learn directly from Kyle that I didn't know because
Speaker 2: I have I didn't watch the show back then, and
Speaker 2: I never really saw clips of him. That Kyle and
Speaker 2: Eileen were very close on the show. Did you watch
Speaker 2: back then?
Speaker 3: But I don't remember that so much about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said they never really showed it, but she
Speaker 2: always told me. Because I would ask about I'd be like,
Speaker 2: who's like some of your favorites from the past? And
Speaker 2: she was like, Eileen was one of my favorites, Like
Speaker 2: she was so fun, but they never showed us having fun.
Speaker 3: Together though how much she gave to the show, Like
Speaker 3: was she outspoken? I just felt like Eileen was really sweet.
Speaker 2: I don't know because I we will watch on flashback,
Speaker 2: but I haven't ever seen her on the show, but
Speaker 2: I she was really She came and filmed one episode
Speaker 2: that we did, like at Kyle's house. She came. It
Speaker 2: was like me and to read and she was cool.
Speaker 2: She was it was like a girl we'd want to
Speaker 2: be friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had run into her a few times back
Speaker 3: when she was on Biverlely Hill's done events and she
Speaker 3: was always really nice nice.
Speaker 2: Our producers are saying she had lvp's number, So maybe
Speaker 2: that's why she's gone. I think she's the one. Is
Speaker 2: that who Brandy threw whine app Yes, yes it was
Speaker 2: so who knows. I wouldn't be disappointed to have her back.
Speaker 2: Oh I guess she said beast? How dare you being
Speaker 2: called a beast?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: That's it? That's It's like the other day when somebody
Speaker 2: said your makeup beat and you thought that meant bad.
Speaker 3: When someone says your face is beat up.
Speaker 2: They didn't say up, they just said your face looked
Speaker 2: sing looks beat.
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck you, your face looks beat.
Speaker 2: Listen. I don't know, but my glam girls are always like,
Speaker 2: do you want a good beat today? This next one?
Speaker 2: Sudden Strack reunites with Kathy Hilton and says she hates
Speaker 2: people saying she faked her medical emergency at the reunion.
Speaker 2: It's on the Real Housewives Zone Instagram. I hate that
Speaker 2: people think I was being fake. If you want to
Speaker 2: be fake and go to the emergency room, Kathy interruptions
Speaker 2: and says, then you have a problem. Then you need
Speaker 2: more than the emergency room. Kathy says Andy was worried
Speaker 2: and all the girls were concerned. Then Kyle and I
Speaker 2: went to dinner, bumped into Andy and called Sudden. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what I don't understand.
Speaker 3: What the reunion's done? Right?
Speaker 2: Yes, why are these Facebook lives right now when they
Speaker 2: could be filming together next season? Like I don't want
Speaker 2: to Facebook live from them right now off camera?
Speaker 3: True? But also why have we got no statement about
Speaker 3: the emergency room visit and what went down? Or did
Speaker 3: we I missed it?
Speaker 2: I can give you a phone one. I know I'm
Speaker 2: not an eight point five doctor, but I can give
Speaker 2: you a phone. It was an anxiety attack, some form
Speaker 2: of anxiety.
Speaker 3: I have been having anxiety lately, and I'm not an
Speaker 3: anxiety person. I think it could be filming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've had one while filming something before,
Speaker 2: but it actually wasn't Housewives. I had it while filming
Speaker 2: the Wendy Williams Show, and like my whole body and
Speaker 2: every like I didn't know what I was saying. I
Speaker 2: couldn't feel anything, like I was like, and I just
Speaker 2: I walked off and then I like remember I think
Speaker 2: edone was with me and I was like, how was that?
Speaker 2: I cannot remember when I hadn't had one alcoholic beverage, nothing,
Speaker 2: but I think it was like during all the LVP
Speaker 2: shit and like everybody was mad at me. So I
Speaker 2: was worried. But I seriously to this, like, do not
Speaker 2: remember doing that interview? My entire body went like cold
Speaker 2: and black and then sweaty and.
Speaker 3: Like some of those issues lately which I never well.
Speaker 2: I hope they don't continue, but either way, Kathy and
Speaker 2: Sutton save it for the television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Real House is Miami will have a fall
Speaker 3: production start date, and there will be cast changes.
Speaker 2: How do we feel about that?
Speaker 3: And who do you think that they should get rid of?
Speaker 2: Well, I've commented on Queens of Bravo. I said, guys,
Speaker 2: absolutely not. The only thing we need is more mohitos.
Speaker 2: And I would say ninety percent of the people agreed
Speaker 2: with me, and the other people, of course, were like,
Speaker 2: you don't go here, Teddy fucking lose that.
Speaker 3: Because nine mohitos isn't enough.
Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying I don't think they need
Speaker 2: a recast.
Speaker 3: No, I think that they can. They could switch it
Speaker 3: up a little bit, a little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Fine, who goes Adriana? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I really I really think that's it. I think
Speaker 3: that Julia could be a friend of.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean I have to say I've taken
Speaker 2: a complete turn on Gertie since having her on the
Speaker 2: pod because I loved her so much. Like I thought
Speaker 2: watching the show her energy was fake, but that's actually
Speaker 2: her energy. I spent so many hours with her, like
Speaker 2: she is just on it. And it's granted it's very
Speaker 2: different from how I am naturally, but like she that's
Speaker 2: just her. She was like that, No, on it. We're
Speaker 2: not We're not operating out a town.
Speaker 3: We're like, do we have to talk? Do we have
Speaker 3: to get changed? Put makeup on? God? Stop bothering me?
Speaker 2: But I don't want to have to wait till fall. Like,
Speaker 2: what's the break?
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. I think they're changing some programming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's there's some shifting coming around.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll
Speaker 2: come back and talk about pet all right, we are
Speaker 2: back to talk about the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Speaker 3: Okay, what a doozy man.
Speaker 2: What a freakin doozy Okay, So cameras were brought back
Speaker 2: up after the altercation, Deborah threw a drink on canvas
Speaker 2: and then turned around and hit Keanna in the head
Speaker 2: with a glass. Wendy says that before Deborah said anything
Speaker 2: to Candace, she said something aggressive to Ashley. Ashley says,
Speaker 2: Deborah and Candas are grown women and there was no
Speaker 2: need for this to happen. Do you feel like Ashley
Speaker 2: knew Deborah was going to act out at some point
Speaker 2: during the event.
Speaker 3: I think she probably expected it, But why did it happen?
Speaker 3: When the cameras went down.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but Ashley commented on Instagram that she
Speaker 2: asked if cameras are down because she wanted to play
Speaker 2: bops that wouldn't be cleared. Ashley, are you actually be lying?
Speaker 3: Ashley be lying. I don't think that she actually expected
Speaker 3: it to get to this level, but I think she
Speaker 3: knew what she was doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean the videos are easily accessible. We
Speaker 2: see multiple things happening.
Speaker 3: I'm really shocked that somebody at the party, obviously somebody
Speaker 3: was there participating in the party, would leak it to TMZ.
Speaker 2: You're shocked by this, Well, I'm just like if you
Speaker 2: have people.
Speaker 3: If I have somebody at my party and I invite
Speaker 3: them and they leak footage of what we're filming, I
Speaker 3: would never speak to them again. Like you can't trust somebody.
Speaker 2: Like that, No, you can't. But you also you if
Speaker 2: somebody is willing to attend one of those parties without
Speaker 2: being paid, where there's no music, you're seeing those types
Speaker 2: of fashions, like, you got to expect that the shit's
Speaker 2: going to come back.
Speaker 3: And that's why they're there for. And this is exactly
Speaker 3: why production doesn't like diff with a lot of people
Speaker 3: at a party because people cannot be trusted.
Speaker 2: And you know, here's a PSA for anybody listening or
Speaker 2: wanting to film on Housewives to go to a party.
Speaker 2: Parties on Housewives are not fun. No, there is no music,
Speaker 2: and if there is music, it's like the standard ten
Speaker 2: beats where you're like, that's why everyone looks.
Speaker 3: Like, well, the music's getting better. It used to be
Speaker 3: porn music.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just brutal.
Speaker 3: But do you imagine what it was like when we
Speaker 3: hunt her gym and we had to do more classes
Speaker 3: on camera.
Speaker 2: And it was given it to me and one and
Speaker 2: two and it.
Speaker 3: Was all like this weird porn music that we had
Speaker 3: to work out too.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. Well, Ashley has decided to put a
Speaker 2: pause on her friendship with Devra after she doubled down
Speaker 2: on social media. Deborah Post said, you left your nail
Speaker 2: in my real ponytail that you unsuccessfully could not rip out.
Speaker 2: In the photo she's holding a press on nail which
Speaker 2: appears to be Keiarna's let me know if you'd like
Speaker 2: it back now, let someone leak the whole video because
Speaker 2: that floor works sure was something that wasn't it special? O?
Speaker 2: K PS did you enjoy your ambulance ride. Punch me
Speaker 2: and my face first, No, ma'am, Oh my god, Deborah,
Speaker 2: you're doing too much, doing.
Speaker 3: Too much, ma'n Like, just shut up, she's instead of
Speaker 3: doubling down.
Speaker 2: And as Katie would say from Phantom Pump Rules, it's
Speaker 2: giving audacity.
Speaker 3: I know. But obviously Debra is trying to get her
Speaker 3: get a spot on the show, and that's never gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Now, never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never
Speaker 2: gonna get it, never gonna get it. As somebody who
Speaker 2: has recently done like the Mommy and Me circuit with Dove,
Speaker 2: like you don't necessarily know the people, like Ashley keeps saying, well,
Speaker 2: she's a friend because we're parenting friends, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Like being friends with your kids is very different than
Speaker 2: being solely friends, and like, yes, it can metamorphose into
Speaker 2: a stronger relationship. There are women that like a Dove's
Speaker 2: Free School that are totally not nic said, I've had
Speaker 2: dinner with with our kids and they seem like good people,
Speaker 2: but I'm not hanging out with them on my own.
Speaker 2: Do I know anything about their personal lives? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I solely know.
Speaker 3: So that's how much Ashley knew this girl.
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, we met mommy and me and we've
Speaker 2: always hung out with our kids. That is a very
Speaker 2: different type of friendship. But Ashley says, Deborah heard Candace
Speaker 2: and Wendy talking badly about her and that's why she reacted.
Speaker 2: But she's seen that side of Debora before. I would
Speaker 2: hope not with your kids.
Speaker 3: But do you think that Ashley had an agenda for
Speaker 3: Debora to start with Candace? Do you think it was
Speaker 3: like a setup?
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 3: Because those things usually backfire in your face. We had
Speaker 3: a certain situation like that on Orange County where Shannon
Speaker 3: brought in a couple of people that she knew was
Speaker 3: going to go after Kelly. I mean, I think, and
Speaker 3: then after when they did and it back by in
Speaker 3: her face, she acted like that wasn't her agenda when
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is Ashley brought Deborah around last
Speaker 2: season to make up lies about the women's husbands. She
Speaker 2: knew what she was doing by bringing her to this event. Like,
Speaker 2: so does that make her responsible for physical violence? No? No, no,
Speaker 2: But does she have to take culpability for handling? For handing?
Speaker 2: You know, Deborah the match. Yes, you have to say, like,
Speaker 2: I knew she was coming in hot, I knew the
Speaker 2: situation was going to be a problem. Wendy tells Ashley
Speaker 2: that Deborah came with an agenda. Do you think that
Speaker 2: Ashley still at this point, even though she doesn't know
Speaker 2: her that way, should hold like, should take a little
Speaker 2: bit of accountability.
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure. I think she knew what she was
Speaker 3: doing by inviting her, probably didn't know what's going to
Speaker 3: go to that level, and now is like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I'm going to stand back, you know, step back from
Speaker 3: her and all that. But do you think that Ashley
Speaker 3: was sincere when she said that? Are they still in
Speaker 3: Mommy and Me?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's actually this season is
Speaker 2: so hard for me to track with all her floral
Speaker 2: and like happiness.
Speaker 3: I atually she's so pretty though sometimes she could just
Speaker 3: feel like she can do no wrong because she just smiles,
Speaker 3: she tells you off. She just I don't know what
Speaker 3: makes her so happy, but I want somem.
Speaker 2: I think Ashley knows what she's got to do to
Speaker 2: make things happen. But I don't think she thought this
Speaker 2: was going to happen.
Speaker 3: I think, do you think that Ashley should worry about
Speaker 3: her job.
Speaker 2: Truly, yes you do. I don't want Ashley to have
Speaker 2: to worry about her job, but I do think that
Speaker 2: if Candice is gone, if Robin's gone, I don't know
Speaker 2: what's going to happened with Karen.
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen with Wendy.
Speaker 2: I need her to be paused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: Help, but I'm really trying to get on. Like, by paused,
Speaker 2: I mean bye.
Speaker 3: Bye, bye nice, I'll see you later.
Speaker 2: But the way that Giselle, Ashley, and Giselle's friend cal
Speaker 2: try to spin this to be Candice fault is a
Speaker 2: little bit on the yucky side. Like, Yeah, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: If I was if you were getting into a physical altercation,
Speaker 2: unless I thought you were getting hurt and I needed
Speaker 2: to protect you, I'm not sure that I would get
Speaker 2: in the mix at all. I think I would be fine.
Speaker 2: I would have ran, like a little bitch, That's what
Speaker 2: I was saying.
Speaker 3: I run. I'd be like, oh, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: My one fight at the holiday and express in the
Speaker 2: eighth grade where Aliyah was texting my boyfriend, well not texting,
Speaker 2: she was paging him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was no texting.
Speaker 2: There was no texting. She paged him, and I knew
Speaker 2: she did the three four one or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: which meant I love you. It was her number, and
Speaker 2: I was fucking pissed. I remember looking at my best
Speaker 2: friend Brooke and going like this holding my retainer. You
Speaker 2: ever had the hair pulled? No? But then I would
Speaker 2: like what was.
Speaker 3: I gonna do?
Speaker 2: And I remember being like.
Speaker 3: Oh, you want some of this? Like you want some
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 2: Camp, this is what you want? And she's like Ellen Camp,
Speaker 2: Like I took my retainer out for like, listen, my
Speaker 2: my mom's gonna have my ass.
Speaker 3: You'd probably be better off with the retainer in and
Speaker 3: probably protect your teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, neither of us hit, either one of us,
Speaker 2: but we did.
Speaker 3: Did you have one of those metal lines or like, yeah,
Speaker 3: the metal line, Oh that's not gonna help.
Speaker 2: This is pre and visil line. It was a watermelon underneath,
Speaker 2: like it had like oh, not kidding in the black dots.
Speaker 2: But I took it out. I took it out.
Speaker 3: To fight, to fight some bitches.
Speaker 2: I gotta fight me.
Speaker 3: I got in a fight in a car with my roommate.
Speaker 3: We weren't driving, we were in the back seat over
Speaker 3: a guy. And she was pulling my hair and I
Speaker 3: was pulling her hair. I mean we both had handfuls
Speaker 3: of hair. And this is this is pre hair extensions,
Speaker 3: when I actually had hair.
Speaker 2: Oh it must be nice.
Speaker 3: I have that has an all fallen out like it
Speaker 3: has now.
Speaker 2: I mean the only person that I've gotten in physical
Speaker 2: altercations with is my sister. Oh yeah, and I feel
Speaker 2: like you and I could play this game. This would
Speaker 2: be a game we would play. So my sister and
Speaker 2: I would have to go fly to my dad's like
Speaker 2: every other week to see him. It was like part
Speaker 2: of our visitation thing. So you're flown unaccompanied minor. I
Speaker 2: was four years older. Everybody kind of thought I was
Speaker 2: the nicer of the two, but clearly I was the
Speaker 2: bigger asshole. Like she's the nice one. But I used
Speaker 2: to play a game. It's called don't Touch Me. So
Speaker 2: what you do is you sit on.
Speaker 3: A play that don't me. Don't touch me.
Speaker 2: It's it's the best game ever. So the rules are
Speaker 2: it's they're pretty simple. You sit next to each other
Speaker 2: on like whatever small Southwest flight and you're like, don't
Speaker 2: touch me. If you do touch me, then you're gonna
Speaker 2: get hit, So we would sit.
Speaker 3: Next to we would sit next to How old were
Speaker 3: you when you were doing this?
Speaker 2: I don't know, a thirteen.
Speaker 3: Is it like a punch on the top of the leg.
Speaker 2: Oh, it could be. It could be this kind of punch.
Speaker 2: It could be a pinch, it could be whatever. But
Speaker 2: then what you do is you get dangerously close to
Speaker 2: see if they if they're going to try you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, how long was this flight?
Speaker 2: I mean we did it for years?
Speaker 3: And how do you have anger issues?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably I did, probably, but like we would lap
Speaker 2: like now to this day still whenever we're together, I'm like,
Speaker 2: let's play, don't touch me, and she's like, you.
Speaker 3: Ain't touching me, bitch, because then I would.
Speaker 2: Make r like put my elbows so close and then
Speaker 2: I told you, I told you what.
Speaker 3: But either way, it was pretty interesting how they put
Speaker 3: up what were the women up to now? And they
Speaker 3: talked about it, and then they skip over to Mia
Speaker 3: and Gordon. Oh my gosh, I don't know that whole conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about me and Gordon for a second.
Speaker 2: So Me and Gordon ended their eleven year marriage. Mia
Speaker 2: Gordon officially separated in July, but no one knew. Gordon
Speaker 2: says he knew Mia had been having an affair for
Speaker 2: ten plus years and that she had an affair with
Speaker 2: Ink right before they got married. Gordon questions why Ink
Speaker 2: thought Jeremiah was his son. Then I was shocked that
Speaker 2: they showed that there was never a paternity test.
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's going to be one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta tell you, I would want one.
Speaker 2: Then Mia told Gordon that when she was pregnant and
Speaker 2: may not be his, but they never took the test.
Speaker 2: Gordon says Mia wanted to leave when he ran out
Speaker 2: of funds. Mia says if she was leaving due to
Speaker 2: financial reasons, she would have left seven eight years ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, why would.
Speaker 3: Gordon want to marry Mia if he knew she was
Speaker 3: having a fair prior to marriage. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not very open to these open marriage.
Speaker 2: Daddy type situations.
Speaker 3: It's like an open marriage. But you know, if you're
Speaker 3: an open marriage and you have three kids, like, isn't
Speaker 3: that when you say, okay, we're not doing this anymore.
Speaker 3: We have three kids, Like, let's concentrate on our children
Speaker 3: and our family.
Speaker 2: But also like I don't know the idea of wanting
Speaker 2: companionship that badly because I'm perfectly fine being alone.
Speaker 3: Like I really know I am too.
Speaker 2: If you're not going to like add to my life,
Speaker 2: I don't need to like force a relationship like there's
Speaker 2: no financial gain. But I think that's where we're forgetting
Speaker 2: if there was a financial gain at some point, or
Speaker 2: if you're having and I think we talked about this
Speaker 2: on Flashback with Joe, if you do have some kind
Speaker 2: of daddy issues and all of a sudden you have
Speaker 2: somebody that feels like a supporter and strength, and maybe
Speaker 2: at this point, Ink wasn't able to do that for her,
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: Able to financially support her. Mia did say and What
Speaker 3: Happens Live last Night that the fair happened after they married. Now,
Speaker 3: when you watch this, did you feel bad for Gordon
Speaker 3: or did you say, okay, well you knew what was
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was grateful that Gordon came to the
Speaker 2: show to save the season and get me at her
Speaker 2: first seat. But I also I haven't ever been in
Speaker 2: a relationship like this, so I really don't understand. But
Speaker 2: I because to me, it's always seemed like me as
Speaker 2: the boss of the two of them. Like if Gordon
Speaker 2: seemed like he had the upper hand, like he was
Speaker 2: the boss, he was in the power situation, then I
Speaker 2: would think it would be one thing. But it doesn't
Speaker 2: feel that way. So I don't know, but I guess that, well,
Speaker 2: we'll do a little What are they up to as
Speaker 2: we're as we're heading out, do.
Speaker 3: You think that they're going to reveal who the father
Speaker 3: is at the reunion?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Andy, I will learn how to give
Speaker 2: a paternity test if you will have me at the reunion.
Speaker 3: Aulready over the preview for the reunion. Gordon says, Hi
Speaker 3: to Ink on FaceTime at the reunion, this is just
Speaker 3: getting weirder by the moment.
Speaker 2: But the reunion trailer. Andy begins the reunion by setting
Speaker 2: an attention for the Potomac housewives that each of you
Speaker 2: can find a path towards moving forward. You're a loser,
Speaker 2: Candace tells Robin before Gazelle list all the things Candace
Speaker 2: has said about her. Giselle's an imp, Giselle's the devil.
Speaker 2: Giselle is evil, all true, says Canada. Imp Oh imp
Speaker 2: is like a devil. But she already said devil, so
Speaker 2: why are you repeating your words? Then Andy tells, Candace responds,
Speaker 2: I have him. He is right here. Neka claims Wendy
Speaker 2: iced me out of this group. Ashley says, of Michael,
Speaker 2: I still love him. Ashley says, I still massage this
Speaker 2: man's feet every night.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're still together. There's still there.
Speaker 2: I told you it's what you called it.
Speaker 3: I thought, no way, they're still fucking together.
Speaker 2: They're just she's a she doesn't want him on the show.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be on the show. But they
Speaker 2: still have the same open relationship. Then Mia drops a
Speaker 2: bomb that her fiance inc thinks that the father of
Speaker 2: me is a eight year old son, Jeremiah Carter, something
Speaker 2: that Gordon has previously allegedo. But now that Candace is gone,
Speaker 2: if Ashley doesn't get fired, do you think Michael will
Speaker 2: film because remember he wasn't filming because of Candace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're going to be open about their relationship,
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like they're open.
Speaker 2: This is what I would like to know, because I
Speaker 2: think this is interesting. This isn't coming from a judgmental place.
Speaker 2: But if you have an open marriage, tell us, tell
Speaker 2: us how it works, Like how does it work because
Speaker 2: I am a jealous, crazy person and it would not
Speaker 2: work for me. So I need to understand all the
Speaker 2: ins and outs because there's a lot of couples that
Speaker 2: do do this. I just need to hear about it,
Speaker 2: and I'm fine to hear about it on that.
Speaker 3: I just don't understand what the point is.
Speaker 2: I'm too old about it. That's how I've taken around
Speaker 2: with multi.
Speaker 3: I don't want to dick around with anybody like I'm tired.
Speaker 2: I could barely dick around with my own husband like that.
Speaker 3: Is it that time again, babe?
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. We will be back to interview Necka,
Speaker 2: so make sure that you tune into the next two
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