1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge. 2 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamar Judge. But 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Tamra Judge is filming at this current moment. She's going 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: to come in a couple of minutes late. So I 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: am going to cover the first Housewife headline without her. 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: And it's also involving the Real Housewives of Orange County 8 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Shannon Badour, and I'm bringing in my producer, Matt or 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Our producer, Matt Hi. 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Matt, Hey, Hey, I know. 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: You love impromptu, you know, being on camera wearing your 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: two teas and a pod sweatshirt. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: Here we go, get yours today today. 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Tap the link. So this one Queens of Bravo posted, 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: but it's pretty much everywhere. John Jansen sues Shannon Badour 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: for seventy five thousand dollars she allegedly borrowed for a facelift. 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: John filed the lawsuit against Shannon for breach or oral 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: contract and promisory fraud. She turned to him for financial 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: support in twenty twenty two, borrowing forty thousand dollars via 20 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: wire transfer for a facelift, allegedly, then he gave her 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: another thirty five thousand via personal check. What I was 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: told was he sent her a promissory note, and she said, 23 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: and this is when they were no longer even together 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: and she just was needing to borrow this money. He 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: sent her a promisory note that said, you know, like 26 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna pay this off with interest, and she said, 27 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm not signing this because it's a loan between a 28 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: boyfriend and girlfriend. And you know, as you guys have heard, 29 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: she's also repeatedly talked about in the press that she 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: covered everything having to do with their life. So I 31 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: think that's why this is getting so ugly before we 32 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: get into the other ends and outs. After this news broke, 33 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Butador spoke out in a statement saying, I'm shocked and 34 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: disappointed that John has filed a lawsuit. My attorney has 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: been in constant communication with his council. I agreed to 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: pay John what he wanted because I knew that attorney 37 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: fees would surpass the amount sought, but more importantly, to 38 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: eliminate the negative emotional components that come with a lawsuit, 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: it is important that I continue to focus on the 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: positive aspects of my life and move forward. John declined 41 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: the offer because he refused to sign a mutual non 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: disparagement agreement. I was hoping that if I met his 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: baseless demand, we could at least use this an opportunity 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: to bring complete closure to this chapter in my life. Okay, 45 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: so she refused to sign the promisory note. He's refusing 46 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: to sign this not on disparagement agreement. What are your 47 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: thoughts on this, Mac, Because I know I might be 48 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: a little biased, so I want to hear yours first. 49 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: I've always thought that the John was a little bit 50 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: of a fame horror type guy. I do personally think 51 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: you know, Shannon had a DOUI she's in a tough 52 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: spot right now because it doesn't seem like she's taking 53 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: full accountability, and now it kind of feels like he's 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: kicking her when she's down. In my opinion, I don't 55 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: know Letty's and one borrow seventy five thousand dollars is 56 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: a lot of money, and if he did, if she 57 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: did promise to pay it back, I understand why he 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: would want it back now, But it feels like he 59 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: only wants it back now because she's in a tough 60 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: spot on the show with the public he's dating Alexis. 61 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: It just feels a little like he doesn't necessarily need 62 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: the money, but he's doing it for publicity of it. 63 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think especially if she is talking about him 64 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: and all of the things that he's done to her, 65 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: but going into even just loans in general, the way 66 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: I feel about them is especially with people that you're 67 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: either in a relationship with or it's tricky or you're 68 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: back and forth. I personally don't believe in giving a 69 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: loan because this is the kind of shit that happens. 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: You either are going to say, listen, I want to 71 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: give you this money. I'm giving you this money and 72 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: it's for you, or no, you know what, I'm not 73 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: loaning you the money, but loaning somebody money without I mean, 74 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: the first red flag was when she wouldn't sign the 75 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: promisory note. 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 77 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: I think also a point that needs to be made 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: is like, if you need money, that's one thing, but 79 00:04:54,040 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: specifically for a cosmetic procedure, it's something you don't necessarily need. 80 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: So him kind of giving her the money to get 81 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: a facelift, it's just it's on both sides. For me, 82 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: it just feels like ridiculous, Like she didn't need a facelift, 83 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: and if you don't have the money yourself to get 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: a facelift, someone giving you that money to do that. Also, 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 4: it's like you shouldn't you rather be like, hey, maybe 86 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: you worry about your financial situation than going for a 87 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: cosmetic procedure that costs tens of thousands of dollars that 88 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: you truly don't need right now. 89 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: But then this also leads me to and I'm having 90 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: empathy for her in this moment, but this leads me to, like, 91 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: going back in the past, that he wasn't attracted to 92 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: her allegedly all of those things. I'm like, had he 93 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: made her feel that in order for them to be together, 94 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: she had to look better, and that's why he agreed 95 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: to give her the money. I could be completely wrong, 96 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: but that could maybe be where her headspaces. But yes, 97 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: I agree with you, but we also know we're watching 98 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: her in real time getting glam every day, doing all 99 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: of these things to be on a television show that 100 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: aren't a requirement, like you're getting glam and Housewives doesn't 101 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: pay for that, and that adds up when you're filming 102 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: five six days a week. 103 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: Right. 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: We're also we're being told that allegedly they were broken 105 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: up when it's happened, but that doesn't matter because obviously 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: they had a volatile relationship. They were broken up and 107 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: got back together, broken up and got back together. Where 108 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: they weren't they together when she got the DUIs and 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: that what happened they got they were had a fight. 110 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: And whether they were fully together or spending time together, 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: they were publicly spending time together and communication, which is 112 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: where money being lent and shared and whatever and whatever 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: money situation they had from the very beginning. I think 114 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: it was a mistake anyway, Like if you feel like 115 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: you're buying your significant other, if that's what she was doing, 116 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: and now this is her repayment, that's going to get 117 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: ugly too. 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: Right, If the verbal agreement was that she was going 119 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: to pay it back, at some point, she should be 120 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: wanting to pay it back. It feels like maybe, maybe 121 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: possibly Shannon wants to present that she has more financially 122 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: than she does, and this is another way of kind 123 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: of him showing us the viewers, Hey, look, she can't 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: even afford to pay for her own faithlift if she 125 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: can't afford to you know what I mean, Like, I 126 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: feel like that's another kind of layer to what's happening here, 127 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: is kind of trying to lift the veil of who 128 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: what's really going on that she isn't showing the viewers. 129 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I mean I think the entire thing 130 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: is incredibly messy. And also, yes, you can't say if 131 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: you're going to say you're going to borrow money from somebody, 132 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: then you can't set the terms on it, if you're 133 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: deciding to pay them back or not. But if I 134 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: were to ever loan money, which I wouldn't, it's either 135 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: a gift or not happening at all. I most certainly 136 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't loan money to somebody that refused to sign an 137 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: agreement saying they were going to pay me back, right Like, Yeah, 138 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If this was me and you and you said, Teddy, 139 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: I need to borrow ten thousand dollars, I would either go, Matt, 140 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: here's ten thousand dollars. Or I would say, all right, 141 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: here's our payment plan. This is the thing, sign it. 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: Here we go. And if you said I'm not signing that, 143 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: who in the world then pays them? 144 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: Right? 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: Who? 146 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: Writes the check yeah. 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: Or the wire transfer, as we've read, But I mean 148 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: it really is a doozy, and I think it goes 149 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: to show on how brutal this my guess, is how 150 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: brutal this season's about to be. Because this is also 151 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: some women. I don't know that Shannon has even publicly 152 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: shared that she's had a facelift, Like I've shared that 153 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: I've had a necklift, But there are a lot of 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: women on these shows that don't publicly talk about it 155 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: that often. So I think that, yeah, I mean, she 156 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: may have casually shared it, but I don't think that 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: it's something that she was shared. She shared it because 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: it was shown on the show, but she hasn't been 159 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: openly talking about it. Like me, every time I show 160 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: my neck, I'm like, here's my neck, left heart, here's 161 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: the updates. This is the doctor, Like I don't know 162 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: who did hers. 163 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Right, But isn't that kind of telling of Shannon kind 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: of feels like she doesn't want to be open about 165 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: what's really happening and wants to kind of just be 166 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: in this kind of delusional world that we've seen with 167 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: her drinking. I feel like we haven't seen her fully 168 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: accept the level of what she did. So, I mean, 169 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: I feel like we just are seeing now that Shannon isn't. 170 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: We got glimpses last season. I feel like when we 171 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: saw her go to production of who Shannon really is, 172 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 4: and I think this is just another way of us 173 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: being like, oh, okay, so Shannon is is maybe not 174 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: being honest with us as viewers about what's really happening 175 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 4: in her lif. 176 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: And that's and that's the thing. 177 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: You want to have empathy for somebody, but you want 178 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: to have empathy for the person that's actually who they 179 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: are and not just who they're trying to present themselves 180 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: to be. So if Shannon is being authentic, then these 181 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: are parts of her story that she has to share, 182 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly, and that's the 183 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 2: only way she's gonna grow or get better or feel 184 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: better or any of those things. But I mean, we 185 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: don't really need to harp on this anymore. I mean, 186 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we've we've cleared it up. Shannon. If 187 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: you want this to be done, pay him the money, 188 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: pay him the money, and just one work. 189 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: Thing before we go. What can I borrow seventy five 190 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: thousand dollars? 191 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: Absolutely fucking not. You know what, I'll loan you seventy 192 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: five dollars and you don't need to pay me back 193 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: with interest. And I'm not going to make you sign 194 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: a note, but any any more than that, it ain't 195 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: fucking happening. 196 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not signing it. 197 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Not the Spanish. 198 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a quick break and then 199 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: we'll bring Tama Judge on when she gets in. All Right, 200 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: you guys, we are back from our break and traffic 201 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: has died down, which means Tamra Judge is here. 202 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 3: Im hey, same old shit, different day. Busted my ass 203 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: over here trying to make buck you. 204 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: Know what, that's what we gotta freaking do. It's a Monday, 205 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: and we just hit in the ground running. 206 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: But there's a few people that don't want they're not 207 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: going to be making some bucks moving forward. 208 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so many people not making bucks. 209 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: And here's a what is going on? 210 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Well, hold on the first bucks. Not nobody's going to 211 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: be making I really need to know, because this first 212 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: one is about Robin Dixon, who always texts me back 213 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: the second I text her, like she's a good Texter. 214 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: We've always had like a good communication, especially since Bravo 215 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: con and I texted her the little link from the 216 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: Jasmine brand where it says Robin Dixon allegedly not returning 217 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: to Real Housewives the Potomac next season. I texted her 218 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: and said, please tell me this isn't true. You know 219 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: what I've heard back? Critics fucking crickets. 220 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: Uh. Oh, She's probably not allowed to talk about it, 221 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: and Bravo has not announced that. I have heard that 222 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: Bravo did announce Candace's exit. The singer who joined the 223 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: series on season three tells People exclusively that she won't 224 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: be returning to the reality series for the upcoming ninth season. 225 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: So she quit. She absolutely quit, and then Bravo was 226 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: pretty much forced to make their own statement. I would 227 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 3: imagine that they wanted to make it after the reunion, 228 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't you think? 229 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it says Bravo famously doesn't comment on casting, 230 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: but a source close to production confirmed to People Dillar 231 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Bass that made the choice to leave the franchise on 232 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: her own. 233 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: Bravo basically announced that she is exiting the show, so 234 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: they did confirm it. 235 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: But this is my question with everybody going rogue and 236 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: just announcing whenever they feel like it before reunions after 237 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: like this is it's everybody's I you know, I can't 238 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: pat myself on the back, but you know what, I 239 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: set this trend. I'm just saying, when you're fired or 240 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: you quit, you just tell it right away. 241 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: Bravo TV and Bravo Daily Dish they did a post 242 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: on Instagram with Candace's face and the caption is I 243 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 3: have decided to take a break from Potomac. Candace Dillard 244 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: Bassett announces she will not be returning to Potomac after 245 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: six seasons. It kind of sounds like she is taking 246 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: a break for some reason. You could tell last season 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: or the you know, the season we're on right now. 248 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: She wasn't that engaged. She walked away a lot, She 249 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: acted like she was kind of over it. So clearly 250 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: something's going on. And maybe it's just the cast she 251 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: has a problem with. And it's like, if this is 252 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: what the cast is, I'm out. 253 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, well, I mean now we don't 254 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: even know what the cast is because feel like everyone's 255 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: getting the boot. But I also think if she is 256 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: wanting to get pregnant, if she is wanting to do 257 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: these things that she's talked about on. 258 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: This She said she wants to sing more too, So. 259 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can feel like one. We always felt like 260 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: this season she was one foot in, one foot out, 261 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: and maybe she wanted to make that call before anybody 262 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: else made that call for her. 263 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: It's crazy. We had Candy who exited, now we have 264 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: Candace exited, and normally you don't see housewife's exiting. And 265 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: you know what, housewife exited and said she will never 266 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: ever ever go back. I know, Lisa Rena, did I 267 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: tell you that? I said that, and I thought, no, 268 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: come on, she'll come back. But I guess life after 269 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: Bravo has been good to her. She's doing a lot 270 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: of acting jobs, and she said she's never going to 271 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: go back to Beverly Hills, which comes me out because 272 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: she's so good on it. 273 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody gets pushed to their breaking point, 274 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: you know, like she just had had enough. She'd given 275 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: it so much, and then there is always that fear 276 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: when you're on reality television show, if they don't have 277 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: me anymore, if I quit or whatever it is, will 278 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: I ever be able to create the income or the 279 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: life or all of those things without it? And I 280 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: think she's done it plus some Yeah, so she's like, 281 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: why would I What is it going to do for 282 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: me to go back? Add stressed in my life. People 283 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: forget how much you're actually filming. 284 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: It's too demanding. Even though it's only like three four 285 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: months of the year, it's a lot of work. I'm 286 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: exhausted right now, like yeah, mentally, physically, all those things 287 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: just spent. Like I could sleep for a week. 288 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, she said on Jennifer Hudson. I'm grateful for the experience. 289 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: I think it made me a better actor working with 290 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: those women. I just did a movie called Mommy Meanest, 291 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: which I trained for for eight years on that show. 292 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: I have a lot to pull from after working with 293 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: all of these women, you know, different psychologies of different women. 294 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: I never would have come across that if I didn't 295 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: do the show. I am grateful for that, and I 296 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: am the person that I am today because of it. 297 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: But I will never go back. And when she says never, 298 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: like she said she was going to quit and then 299 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: she quit. 300 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: She quit. 301 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she isn't one to mince her words. She 302 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: may you know, she may have caused drama and then 303 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: been like, oh shit, sorry, I didn't mean that, or whatever, 304 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: but also the quality of life is probably better. 305 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt that being on the 306 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: show is exhausting. It's mentally just fucked with your head. 307 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: And sometimes you're just don't want to do it. You 308 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: don't want to do it, you're tired. So I get 309 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: where she was at. I was like that when I 310 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: got fired. It was, you know, a blessing in disguise. 311 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: But you know, even though she could be an asshole 312 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: on the show, her natural demeanor isn't one of drama. 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: Like she's a housewife. Like if you post something for her, 314 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: you say something like I text her the other day 315 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: because we were watching Lie Frankenstein and I'm like, oh 316 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: my gosh, my girls have a crush on the boy 317 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: that's in Lisa Frankenstein and we've pulled him up to 318 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: stock him and it's Delilah's boyfriend. And like she's just 319 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: so like, oh my gosh, the support of watching the show, 320 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: that's awesome, Bubba. 321 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: Like she's just she's been very supportive. She's reached out 322 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: to me several times to tell me how the gummies 323 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: and lights Out have changed her life and how she's 324 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: able to sleep and all that. So she's always been 325 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: very very supportive. 326 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean on our next episode, we are 327 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: going to have Neka on which I think we can 328 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: grill into her a little bit more about some of 329 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: these alleged exits on Potomac. But let's let's shift gears here. 330 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: This is from Kyle. Kyle Richards hasn't spoken to Dree 331 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: since the reunion. This is from page six on her 332 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: Amazon lives TikTok. We haven't spoken at all, but I've 333 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: always supported Duri since she joined the show. It was 334 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: about people saying she was phony because of her accent. 335 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: I defended her with that. She said, saying, when you 336 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: live with somebody who has an accent, you can pick 337 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: up on an accent. I'm like that too with the 338 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: Dog with Lisa Rinna in Hong Kong with Lisa Vanner Pump. 339 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: I always stood up for her. I think she's making 340 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: her points of the you know, the amount of times 341 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: that she has at her back. The text being read 342 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: was very hurtful to me, and she said that I 343 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: was being manipulative, and it was actually the complete opposite. 344 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: I was actually being very forthright and saying I have 345 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: a lot at stake right now and this is really 346 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: hard for me. I have a lot on my plate. 347 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: I know what's coming at me. You and I, these 348 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: are stupid arguments. What are your thoughts? 349 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm curious to see if she'll leave me back 350 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: next season? 351 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: Who Kyle Dori Dorey. 352 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: I feel like she's doing all the things now that 353 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: the show's over. Do you try to remain on the show. 354 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: I think everybody knows that there's going to be a 355 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 3: shake up, and I just think going after Kyle is 356 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: her saving grace. 357 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think where it's gonna get a 358 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: little bit tricky is do I think she'll still be 359 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: on the show most likely? I wonder. I've been hearing 360 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: rumors that i Leen Davidson too, which something that I 361 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: did learn directly from Kyle that I didn't know because 362 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: I have I didn't watch the show back then, and 363 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: I never really saw clips of him. That Kyle and 364 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: Eileen were very close on the show. Did you watch 365 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: back then? 366 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: But I don't remember that so much about it? 367 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, she said they never really showed it, but she 368 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: always told me. Because I would ask about I'd be like, 369 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: who's like some of your favorites from the past? And 370 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: she was like, Eileen was one of my favorites, Like 371 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: she was so fun, but they never showed us having fun. 372 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: Together though how much she gave to the show, Like 373 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: was she outspoken? I just felt like Eileen was really sweet. 374 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't know because I we will watch on flashback, 375 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: but I haven't ever seen her on the show, but 376 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: I she was really She came and filmed one episode 377 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: that we did, like at Kyle's house. She came. It 378 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: was like me and to read and she was cool. 379 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: She was it was like a girl we'd want to 380 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: be friends. 381 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I had run into her a few times back 382 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 3: when she was on Biverlely Hill's done events and she 383 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: was always really nice nice. 384 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 2: Our producers are saying she had lvp's number, So maybe 385 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: that's why she's gone. I think she's the one. Is 386 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 2: that who Brandy threw whine app Yes, yes it was 387 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: so who knows. I wouldn't be disappointed to have her back. 388 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: Oh I guess she said beast? How dare you being 389 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: called a beast? 390 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: Like? 391 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: That's it? That's It's like the other day when somebody 392 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: said your makeup beat and you thought that meant bad. 393 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: When someone says your face is beat up. 394 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: They didn't say up, they just said your face looked 395 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: sing looks beat. 396 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck you, your face looks beat. 397 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: Listen. I don't know, but my glam girls are always like, 398 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: do you want a good beat today? This next one? 399 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: Sudden Strack reunites with Kathy Hilton and says she hates 400 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: people saying she faked her medical emergency at the reunion. 401 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: It's on the Real Housewives Zone Instagram. I hate that 402 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: people think I was being fake. If you want to 403 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: be fake and go to the emergency room, Kathy interruptions 404 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: and says, then you have a problem. Then you need 405 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: more than the emergency room. Kathy says Andy was worried 406 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: and all the girls were concerned. Then Kyle and I 407 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: went to dinner, bumped into Andy and called Sudden. Okay, 408 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: this is what I don't understand. 409 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: What the reunion's done? Right? 410 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: Yes, why are these Facebook lives right now when they 411 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: could be filming together next season? Like I don't want 412 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: to Facebook live from them right now off camera? 413 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 3: True? But also why have we got no statement about 414 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: the emergency room visit and what went down? Or did 415 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: we I missed it? 416 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: I can give you a phone one. I know I'm 417 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: not an eight point five doctor, but I can give 418 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: you a phone. It was an anxiety attack, some form 419 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: of anxiety. 420 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: I have been having anxiety lately, and I'm not an 421 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 3: anxiety person. I think it could be filming. 422 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've had one while filming something before, 423 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: but it actually wasn't Housewives. I had it while filming 424 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: the Wendy Williams Show, and like my whole body and 425 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: every like I didn't know what I was saying. I 426 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: couldn't feel anything, like I was like, and I just 427 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: I walked off and then I like remember I think 428 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 2: edone was with me and I was like, how was that? 429 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: I cannot remember when I hadn't had one alcoholic beverage, nothing, 430 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: but I think it was like during all the LVP 431 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: shit and like everybody was mad at me. So I 432 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: was worried. But I seriously to this, like, do not 433 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: remember doing that interview? My entire body went like cold 434 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: and black and then sweaty and. 435 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: Like some of those issues lately which I never well. 436 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: I hope they don't continue, but either way, Kathy and 437 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: Sutton save it for the television. 438 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Real House is Miami will have a fall 439 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: production start date, and there will be cast changes. 440 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: How do we feel about that? 441 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: And who do you think that they should get rid of? 442 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: Well, I've commented on Queens of Bravo. I said, guys, 443 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: absolutely not. The only thing we need is more mohitos. 444 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: And I would say ninety percent of the people agreed 445 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: with me, and the other people, of course, were like, 446 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: you don't go here, Teddy fucking lose that. 447 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: Because nine mohitos isn't enough. 448 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying I don't think they need 449 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: a recast. 450 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: No, I think that they can. They could switch it 451 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: up a little bit, a little bit, just a little bit. 452 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: Fine, who goes Adriana? Yeah? 453 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: And I really I really think that's it. I think 454 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: that Julia could be a friend of. 455 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean I have to say I've taken 456 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: a complete turn on Gertie since having her on the 457 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: pod because I loved her so much. Like I thought 458 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: watching the show her energy was fake, but that's actually 459 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: her energy. I spent so many hours with her, like 460 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: she is just on it. And it's granted it's very 461 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: different from how I am naturally, but like she that's 462 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: just her. She was like that, No, on it. We're 463 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: not We're not operating out a town. 464 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: We're like, do we have to talk? Do we have 465 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 3: to get changed? Put makeup on? God? Stop bothering me? 466 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: But I don't want to have to wait till fall. Like, 467 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 2: what's the break? 468 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. I think they're changing some programming. 469 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's there's some shifting coming around. 470 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: Definitely. 471 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll 472 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: come back and talk about pet all right, we are 473 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: back to talk about the Real Housewives of Potomac. 474 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: Okay, what a doozy man. 475 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: What a freakin doozy Okay, So cameras were brought back 476 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: up after the altercation, Deborah threw a drink on canvas 477 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: and then turned around and hit Keanna in the head 478 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: with a glass. Wendy says that before Deborah said anything 479 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: to Candace, she said something aggressive to Ashley. Ashley says, 480 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: Deborah and Candas are grown women and there was no 481 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: need for this to happen. Do you feel like Ashley 482 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: knew Deborah was going to act out at some point 483 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: during the event. 484 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: I think she probably expected it, But why did it happen? 485 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: When the cameras went down. 486 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Ashley commented on Instagram that she 487 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: asked if cameras are down because she wanted to play 488 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: bops that wouldn't be cleared. Ashley, are you actually be lying? 489 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: Ashley be lying. I don't think that she actually expected 490 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: it to get to this level, but I think she 491 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: knew what she was doing. 492 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean the videos are easily accessible. We 493 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: see multiple things happening. 494 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: I'm really shocked that somebody at the party, obviously somebody 495 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 3: was there participating in the party, would leak it to TMZ. 496 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 2: You're shocked by this, Well, I'm just like if you 497 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: have people. 498 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: If I have somebody at my party and I invite 499 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: them and they leak footage of what we're filming, I 500 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: would never speak to them again. Like you can't trust somebody. 501 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: Like that, No, you can't. But you also you if 502 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: somebody is willing to attend one of those parties without 503 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: being paid, where there's no music, you're seeing those types 504 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: of fashions, like, you got to expect that the shit's 505 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: going to come back. 506 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: And that's why they're there for. And this is exactly 507 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: why production doesn't like diff with a lot of people 508 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: at a party because people cannot be trusted. 509 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: And you know, here's a PSA for anybody listening or 510 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: wanting to film on Housewives to go to a party. 511 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: Parties on Housewives are not fun. No, there is no music, 512 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: and if there is music, it's like the standard ten 513 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: beats where you're like, that's why everyone looks. 514 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: Like, well, the music's getting better. It used to be 515 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: porn music. 516 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: I mean it's just brutal. 517 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: But do you imagine what it was like when we 518 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: hunt her gym and we had to do more classes 519 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: on camera. 520 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: And it was given it to me and one and 521 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: two and it. 522 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: Was all like this weird porn music that we had 523 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: to work out too. 524 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 2: It's so bad. Well, Ashley has decided to put a 525 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: pause on her friendship with Devra after she doubled down 526 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: on social media. Deborah Post said, you left your nail 527 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: in my real ponytail that you unsuccessfully could not rip out. 528 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: In the photo she's holding a press on nail which 529 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: appears to be Keiarna's let me know if you'd like 530 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: it back now, let someone leak the whole video because 531 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: that floor works sure was something that wasn't it special? O? 532 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: K PS did you enjoy your ambulance ride. Punch me 533 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 2: and my face first, No, ma'am, Oh my god, Deborah, 534 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: you're doing too much, doing. 535 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: Too much, ma'n Like, just shut up, she's instead of 536 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 3: doubling down. 537 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: And as Katie would say from Phantom Pump Rules, it's 538 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: giving audacity. 539 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: I know. But obviously Debra is trying to get her 540 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: get a spot on the show, and that's never gonna happen. 541 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: Now, never gonna get it, never gonna get it, never 542 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: gonna get it, never gonna get it. As somebody who 543 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: has recently done like the Mommy and Me circuit with Dove, 544 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: like you don't necessarily know the people, like Ashley keeps saying, well, 545 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: she's a friend because we're parenting friends, blah blah blah. 546 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: Like being friends with your kids is very different than 547 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: being solely friends, and like, yes, it can metamorphose into 548 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: a stronger relationship. There are women that like a Dove's 549 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: Free School that are totally not nic said, I've had 550 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: dinner with with our kids and they seem like good people, 551 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: but I'm not hanging out with them on my own. 552 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: Do I know anything about their personal lives? Absolutely not. 553 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: I solely know. 554 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: So that's how much Ashley knew this girl. 555 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: She said, yeah, we met mommy and me and we've 556 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: always hung out with our kids. That is a very 557 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: different type of friendship. But Ashley says, Deborah heard Candace 558 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: and Wendy talking badly about her and that's why she reacted. 559 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: But she's seen that side of Debora before. I would 560 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: hope not with your kids. 561 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: But do you think that Ashley had an agenda for 562 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: Debora to start with Candace? Do you think it was 563 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: like a setup? 564 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: I think that. 565 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: Because those things usually backfire in your face. We had 566 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: a certain situation like that on Orange County where Shannon 567 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: brought in a couple of people that she knew was 568 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: going to go after Kelly. I mean, I think, and 569 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: then after when they did and it back by in 570 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: her face, she acted like that wasn't her agenda when 571 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: it was. 572 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: I think the problem is Ashley brought Deborah around last 573 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: season to make up lies about the women's husbands. She 574 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: knew what she was doing by bringing her to this event. Like, 575 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: so does that make her responsible for physical violence? No? No, no, 576 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: But does she have to take culpability for handling? For handing? 577 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: You know, Deborah the match. Yes, you have to say, like, 578 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: I knew she was coming in hot, I knew the 579 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: situation was going to be a problem. Wendy tells Ashley 580 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: that Deborah came with an agenda. Do you think that 581 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: Ashley still at this point, even though she doesn't know 582 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: her that way, should hold like, should take a little 583 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: bit of accountability. 584 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes, for sure. I think she knew what she was 585 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: doing by inviting her, probably didn't know what's going to 586 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: go to that level, and now is like, oh, well, 587 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to stand back, you know, step back from 588 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: her and all that. But do you think that Ashley 589 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: was sincere when she said that? Are they still in 590 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Mommy and Me? 591 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's actually this season is 592 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: so hard for me to track with all her floral 593 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: and like happiness. 594 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: I atually she's so pretty though sometimes she could just 595 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: feel like she can do no wrong because she just smiles, 596 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: she tells you off. She just I don't know what 597 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: makes her so happy, but I want somem. 598 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: I think Ashley knows what she's got to do to 599 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: make things happen. But I don't think she thought this 600 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: was going to happen. 601 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: I think, do you think that Ashley should worry about 602 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: her job. 603 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 2: Truly, yes you do. I don't want Ashley to have 604 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: to worry about her job, but I do think that 605 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: if Candice is gone, if Robin's gone, I don't know 606 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: what's going to happened with Karen. 607 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: What's gonna happen with Wendy. 608 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: I need her to be paused. 609 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. 610 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: Help, but I'm really trying to get on. Like, by paused, 611 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean bye. 612 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: Bye, bye nice, I'll see you later. 613 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: But the way that Giselle, Ashley, and Giselle's friend cal 614 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: try to spin this to be Candice fault is a 615 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: little bit on the yucky side. Like, Yeah, here's the thing. 616 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: If I was if you were getting into a physical altercation, 617 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: unless I thought you were getting hurt and I needed 618 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: to protect you, I'm not sure that I would get 619 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: in the mix at all. I think I would be fine. 620 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: I would have ran, like a little bitch, That's what 621 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: I was saying. 622 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: I run. I'd be like, oh, I'm out of here. 623 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: My one fight at the holiday and express in the 624 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: eighth grade where Aliyah was texting my boyfriend, well not texting, 625 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: she was paging him. 626 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was no texting. 627 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: There was no texting. She paged him, and I knew 628 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: she did the three four one or whatever it is, 629 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: which meant I love you. It was her number, and 630 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: I was fucking pissed. I remember looking at my best 631 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: friend Brooke and going like this holding my retainer. You 632 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: ever had the hair pulled? No? But then I would 633 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: like what was. 634 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: I gonna do? 635 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: And I remember being like. 636 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: Oh, you want some of this? Like you want some 637 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: of this. 638 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: Camp, this is what you want? And she's like Ellen Camp, 639 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: Like I took my retainer out for like, listen, my 640 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: my mom's gonna have my ass. 641 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: You'd probably be better off with the retainer in and 642 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: probably protect your teeth. 643 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, neither of us hit, either one of us, 644 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: but we did. 645 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: Did you have one of those metal lines or like, yeah, 646 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: the metal line, Oh that's not gonna help. 647 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: This is pre and visil line. It was a watermelon underneath, 648 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: like it had like oh, not kidding in the black dots. 649 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: But I took it out. I took it out. 650 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: To fight, to fight some bitches. 651 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: I gotta fight me. 652 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: I got in a fight in a car with my roommate. 653 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: We weren't driving, we were in the back seat over 654 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: a guy. And she was pulling my hair and I 655 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: was pulling her hair. I mean we both had handfuls 656 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: of hair. And this is this is pre hair extensions, 657 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 3: when I actually had hair. 658 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: Oh it must be nice. 659 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: I have that has an all fallen out like it 660 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 3: has now. 661 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean the only person that I've gotten in physical 662 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: altercations with is my sister. Oh yeah, and I feel 663 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: like you and I could play this game. This would 664 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: be a game we would play. So my sister and 665 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: I would have to go fly to my dad's like 666 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: every other week to see him. It was like part 667 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: of our visitation thing. So you're flown unaccompanied minor. I 668 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: was four years older. Everybody kind of thought I was 669 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: the nicer of the two, but clearly I was the 670 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: bigger asshole. Like she's the nice one. But I used 671 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: to play a game. It's called don't Touch Me. So 672 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: what you do is you sit on. 673 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: A play that don't me. Don't touch me. 674 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: It's it's the best game ever. So the rules are 675 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: it's they're pretty simple. You sit next to each other 676 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: on like whatever small Southwest flight and you're like, don't 677 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: touch me. If you do touch me, then you're gonna 678 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: get hit, So we would sit. 679 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: Next to we would sit next to How old were 680 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: you when you were doing this? 681 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, a thirteen. 682 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: Is it like a punch on the top of the leg. 683 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh, it could be. It could be this kind of punch. 684 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: It could be a pinch, it could be whatever. But 685 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: then what you do is you get dangerously close to 686 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: see if they if they're going to try you. 687 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, how long was this flight? 688 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean we did it for years? 689 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: And how do you have anger issues? 690 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably I did, probably, but like we would lap 691 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: like now to this day still whenever we're together, I'm like, 692 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: let's play, don't touch me, and she's like, you. 693 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: Ain't touching me, bitch, because then I would. 694 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: Make r like put my elbows so close and then 695 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: I told you, I told you what. 696 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: But either way, it was pretty interesting how they put 697 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 3: up what were the women up to now? And they 698 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: talked about it, and then they skip over to Mia 699 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: and Gordon. Oh my gosh, I don't know that whole conversation. 700 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about me and Gordon for a second. 701 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: So Me and Gordon ended their eleven year marriage. Mia 702 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: Gordon officially separated in July, but no one knew. Gordon 703 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: says he knew Mia had been having an affair for 704 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: ten plus years and that she had an affair with 705 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: Ink right before they got married. Gordon questions why Ink 706 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 2: thought Jeremiah was his son. Then I was shocked that 707 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: they showed that there was never a paternity test. 708 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's going to be one. 709 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta tell you, I would want one. 710 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 2: Then Mia told Gordon that when she was pregnant and 711 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: may not be his, but they never took the test. 712 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: Gordon says Mia wanted to leave when he ran out 713 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: of funds. Mia says if she was leaving due to 714 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 2: financial reasons, she would have left seven eight years ago. 715 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean, why would. 716 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: Gordon want to marry Mia if he knew she was 717 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: having a fair prior to marriage. I mean, I don't know. 718 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm not very open to these open marriage. 719 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: Daddy type situations. 720 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 3: It's like an open marriage. But you know, if you're 721 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: an open marriage and you have three kids, like, isn't 722 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: that when you say, okay, we're not doing this anymore. 723 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: We have three kids, Like, let's concentrate on our children 724 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 3: and our family. 725 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 2: But also like I don't know the idea of wanting 726 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: companionship that badly because I'm perfectly fine being alone. 727 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 3: Like I really know I am too. 728 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: If you're not going to like add to my life, 729 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: I don't need to like force a relationship like there's 730 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: no financial gain. But I think that's where we're forgetting 731 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: if there was a financial gain at some point, or 732 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: if you're having and I think we talked about this 733 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: on Flashback with Joe, if you do have some kind 734 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: of daddy issues and all of a sudden you have 735 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: somebody that feels like a supporter and strength, and maybe 736 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 2: at this point, Ink wasn't able to do that for her, 737 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 738 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: Able to financially support her. Mia did say and What 739 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: Happens Live last Night that the fair happened after they married. Now, 740 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 3: when you watch this, did you feel bad for Gordon 741 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: or did you say, okay, well you knew what was 742 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 3: going on. 743 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I was grateful that Gordon came to the 744 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: show to save the season and get me at her 745 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: first seat. But I also I haven't ever been in 746 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: a relationship like this, so I really don't understand. But 747 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: I because to me, it's always seemed like me as 748 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: the boss of the two of them. Like if Gordon 749 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: seemed like he had the upper hand, like he was 750 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: the boss, he was in the power situation, then I 751 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: would think it would be one thing. But it doesn't 752 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: feel that way. So I don't know, but I guess that, well, 753 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: we'll do a little What are they up to as 754 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: we're as we're heading out, do. 755 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 3: You think that they're going to reveal who the father 756 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: is at the reunion? 757 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Andy, I will learn how to give 758 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: a paternity test if you will have me at the reunion. 759 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: Aulready over the preview for the reunion. Gordon says, Hi 760 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: to Ink on FaceTime at the reunion, this is just 761 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 3: getting weirder by the moment. 762 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: But the reunion trailer. Andy begins the reunion by setting 763 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: an attention for the Potomac housewives that each of you 764 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 2: can find a path towards moving forward. You're a loser, 765 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: Candace tells Robin before Gazelle list all the things Candace 766 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: has said about her. Giselle's an imp, Giselle's the devil. 767 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: Giselle is evil, all true, says Canada. Imp Oh imp 768 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 2: is like a devil. But she already said devil, so 769 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: why are you repeating your words? Then Andy tells, Candace responds, 770 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: I have him. He is right here. Neka claims Wendy 771 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: iced me out of this group. Ashley says, of Michael, 772 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: I still love him. Ashley says, I still massage this 773 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 2: man's feet every night. 774 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're still together. There's still there. 775 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: I told you it's what you called it. 776 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: I thought, no way, they're still fucking together. 777 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: They're just she's a she doesn't want him on the show. 778 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be on the show. But they 779 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: still have the same open relationship. Then Mia drops a 780 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: bomb that her fiance inc thinks that the father of 781 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: me is a eight year old son, Jeremiah Carter, something 782 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: that Gordon has previously allegedo. But now that Candace is gone, 783 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: if Ashley doesn't get fired, do you think Michael will 784 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 2: film because remember he wasn't filming because of Candace. 785 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're going to be open about their relationship, 786 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like they're open. 787 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: This is what I would like to know, because I 788 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: think this is interesting. This isn't coming from a judgmental place. 789 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: But if you have an open marriage, tell us, tell 790 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: us how it works, Like how does it work because 791 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: I am a jealous, crazy person and it would not 792 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 2: work for me. So I need to understand all the 793 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: ins and outs because there's a lot of couples that 794 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: do do this. I just need to hear about it, 795 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 2: and I'm fine to hear about it on that. 796 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 3: I just don't understand what the point is. 797 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm too old about it. That's how I've taken around 798 00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: with multi. 799 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to dick around with anybody like I'm tired. 800 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 2: I could barely dick around with my own husband like that. 801 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: Is it that time again, babe? 802 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. We will be back to interview Necka, 803 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: so make sure that you tune into the next two 804 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: Teese and a pod