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Speaker 6: Yes, listen, I'm excited to be back. God is good. Yes,
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Speaker 5: You're gonna come out roasting me by time.
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Speaker 3: All right, So you guys before pre showed, before we
Speaker 3: did the players, you guys are saying that we need
Speaker 3: to watch the Tom Brady wrote on Netflix, Oh you
Speaker 3: got from a quarterback in the Patriots they got.
Speaker 6: I listen, my my thoughts of Bill Belichick changes. I
Speaker 6: was waking right because the person like you going to
Speaker 6: and you know that the players believe that Bill Belichick
Speaker 6: has some type of personality. I'm sure he gives them
Speaker 6: a little a little much. But you always see people
Speaker 6: go on those roasts and there's always one person that
Speaker 6: bombs and I thought it was gonna be Bill, and
Speaker 6: Bill went out there and killed it. He had personality,
Speaker 6: He was funny. Uh he you know, he played along
Speaker 6: because they gave him a lot of They gave him.
Speaker 6: They gave him hell, Robert Cramp gave him a little
Speaker 6: bit the people got Tom Brady, you know, because it
Speaker 6: was the whole thing about who was the reason for
Speaker 6: the dynasty. So they went back and forth with that one. Yeah,
Speaker 6: shout off the Bill man. I got respectful Bill. He
Speaker 6: went out there this thing. But it was a three
Speaker 6: hours a straight just laugh out.
Speaker 7: It takes a brave man to get up on them
Speaker 7: roasts because they will bring everything out. Any type of
Speaker 7: rumor you had back in the day, cheating halted. They
Speaker 7: brought it all out. And the man, they held no punches.
Speaker 7: Everybody got a piece. He's a robber craft because Tom
Speaker 7: is a good sport to allow them to do that.
Speaker 7: Three hours of being roasted, I mean I was, you
Speaker 7: get uncomfortable for personal like literally, you know, three hours
Speaker 7: of watching him squirm, just it has to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: The best roast that I've seen, though, if y'all get
Speaker 7: a chance to go check out Michael Irvings roast.
Speaker 6: Yeah snoop Dog on the No, no, no, no, it
Speaker 6: was Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox did it's yeah, what's the
Speaker 6: old one? When he was like, I gotta run it back,
Speaker 6: I gotta run back.
Speaker 3: I'll say this about Belichick and and when I when
Speaker 3: I was around him in Cleveland, covered the team. They
Speaker 3: would all the players and even coaches would tell you
Speaker 3: he's a funny guy. He wasn't giving us any of that.
Speaker 3: That was reserved and for the people at his orbit
Speaker 3: and that what you're saying there, I'm not surprised because
Speaker 3: I consistently have heard that from from the people who
Speaker 3: were with him and work with him. So all good,
Speaker 3: So all right, I will check that. I will put
Speaker 3: it on my list today. Your brave man wear that.
Speaker 6: About the Stars winning in season championship.
Speaker 5: That was in the back of the Bentley.
Speaker 8: You just.
Speaker 7: Come on, dog, you're playing Sha the morning. I was like,
Speaker 7: you know, I got you know, you know.
Speaker 5: Not for long.
Speaker 6: You know, let's dive into the Cowboys here, and Barry
Speaker 6: Church as you do, I'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Here's a good question, Barry asked this team. Can the
Speaker 3: defense be dominant without Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn is now
Speaker 3: the head coach of the Washington Commanders in the NFC East,
Speaker 3: So I'll let you start, Barry your thoughts.
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be extremely difficult for this
Speaker 7: team to match their intensity they've had since Quinn has
Speaker 7: gotten in here. I mean We've all heard from all
Speaker 7: the players throughout the locker room, especially on the defensive
Speaker 7: side of the football, how much they love Quin and
Speaker 7: how much they love playing for him, and they believe
Speaker 7: in his system. And we saw what happened when players
Speaker 7: don't believe in your system. The defensive coordinator before Quinn Nolan,
Speaker 7: players were coming out saying this ain't working, this scheme,
Speaker 7: ain't doing this, they ain't doing that, And we saw
Speaker 7: how bad and terrible that defense is. So if your
Speaker 7: players don't believe in you, it's hard for them to
Speaker 7: go out there and run through a brick.
Speaker 5: Wall for you.
Speaker 7: So you know, hopefully, you know, with the new defensive
Speaker 7: coordinator coming in here, he can install that defense and
Speaker 7: have them believing in it. But I think it's gonna
Speaker 7: be extremely hard because if you think about it, man,
Speaker 7: then Quinn got the best out of each and every
Speaker 7: one of those guys. I mean, look, de Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 7: turned the clock back the wrong. Bland was out there,
Speaker 7: you know, leading the league in interceptions. Diggs went from
Speaker 7: you know, having a couple of picks and getting toasted
Speaker 7: to man, this guy is a ball hawk out there.
Speaker 7: The safety is the way he was playing those those
Speaker 7: safeties are three safeties out there. To me, he got
Speaker 7: the most out of each and every one of his players,
Speaker 7: except for the interior of the defensive line, but we'll
Speaker 7: talk about that a little bit later.
Speaker 5: But the rest of the squad, he got the most
Speaker 5: out of them.
Speaker 7: And when you believe in a coach like that, you're
Speaker 7: gonna you're gonna go above and beyond. And that's what
Speaker 7: that defense was able to do. And I think it's
Speaker 7: gonna be hard to replicate that, especially on a one
Speaker 7: year This is well, if it doesn't work out this year,
Speaker 7: I think a lot of this is gonna change.
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be tough to make sure.
Speaker 7: You know your beliefs and your core beliefs on that
Speaker 7: defense get installed in these players in just a couple
Speaker 7: of months and then head into the season. So they're talented.
Speaker 7: You got Michael Parsons, You got these guys out there,
Speaker 7: so they're gonna have a talented defense. It's just are
Speaker 7: the players gonna believe in it when something goes wrong,
Speaker 7: or they gonna be like, you know what, it's okay,
Speaker 7: he understands what he's doing up top, or they just
Speaker 7: gonna do how like they would Nolan and say, man,
Speaker 7: this ain't working.
Speaker 5: He ain't getting the best out of us. This defense
Speaker 5: ain't working.
Speaker 7: We're gonna see because this team's gonna need this defense,
Speaker 7: in my opinion, to be able to go to the.
Speaker 5: Next level in which they want to do.
Speaker 6: The thing for me when you raise the question is
Speaker 6: I asked a question like what was the identity of
Speaker 6: dan Quinn's defense, And the identity of his defense was pressure,
Speaker 6: turnovers and sacks. And when they couldn't get pressure, they
Speaker 6: couldn't get turnovers, they couldn't get sacks. They were pedestrian,
Speaker 6: all right. And you found ways to expose this defense.
Speaker 6: And look for the three years that that he was
Speaker 6: at defensive coordinator, you saw, like you just said, him
Speaker 6: bringing out those pieces that you were like, look, I
Speaker 6: got the best version of Diggs. I'm getting the best
Speaker 6: version of my safeties. I'm getting the best version of
Speaker 6: the way that he's using Michael Parsons. But at the
Speaker 6: end of the day, when what all of this fell
Speaker 6: apart about was how you operate in the playoffs, and
Speaker 6: when you get to the playoffs and you go back
Speaker 6: to those just go back to last season and look
Speaker 6: at our worst games Buffalo turn on the Buffalo tape.
Speaker 5: When we couldn't get pressure, we couldn't get sacks. Teams
Speaker 5: exposed us we could.
Speaker 6: We are continuously getting exposed on the back half of
Speaker 6: our defense, in the front up front, and also on
Speaker 6: the back half when they get unbalanced. And so when
Speaker 6: I look at when people ask the question about Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 6: I say, and replacing dan Quinn, I say, it can't
Speaker 6: get worse, and no, no, no, Respectfully, what I'm saying
Speaker 6: is he is not going to change any of those
Speaker 6: things that made the defense what it was last season,
Speaker 6: because now I believe Digs is what it is, Bland
Speaker 6: is what he is. Okay, but how does he get
Speaker 6: these guys in position now to stop the run? Because
Speaker 6: that's our achilles hell. We can't stop them when we
Speaker 6: can't stop anybody dog, it really puts us in a
Speaker 6: bad way. Yeah, I think the question of can you
Speaker 6: be dominant under Zimmers?
Speaker 5: Were we dominant last year?
Speaker 6: Like I think at the beginning of the season we
Speaker 6: felt like generational, generational.
Speaker 5: I remember the story.
Speaker 6: You said, I shout out, listen, I don't and you
Speaker 6: know I love dan Quinn. I think dan Quinn brought
Speaker 6: a different type of leadership here where the players following
Speaker 6: them they brought he brought from swag Dude started playing
Speaker 6: going out there, they talked a little a little crazy,
Speaker 6: and they backed it up. You always know you're gonna
Speaker 6: get the same stuff out of the laws. But like
Speaker 6: you said, the biggest issue here is do we have
Speaker 6: the pieces on the interior defensive line to be dominant
Speaker 6: all right?
Speaker 5: Actually to just be good?
Speaker 6: And our starting defensive line right now is O DIGGI,
Speaker 6: Zeua Yegg and Mazzie Smith, right, So like when you
Speaker 6: look at what Mazzie Smith did last year and then
Speaker 6: you say this guy is going to this is who
Speaker 6: we're depending on right now, just based off what it
Speaker 6: was last year. He can get better in the off season,
Speaker 6: he can get better in training camp, just but just
Speaker 6: based off what it was last year, we don't we
Speaker 6: don't think. I don't think that that is going to
Speaker 6: hold up for us to be able to be dominant
Speaker 6: like we want to. Dron Bland can play as good
Speaker 6: as you want to. Trayvon Diggs will be coming off
Speaker 6: an injury, right We got Overshan coming off an injury, right.
Speaker 6: So when you talk about being dominant right now, I
Speaker 6: just want us to be serviceable, like we know that
Speaker 6: we're going to be able to get pressure in certain
Speaker 6: situations because Michael Parsons is there d laws there like
Speaker 6: you know they're going to get their opportunities. But right now,
Speaker 6: I don't think we can look at the roster and
Speaker 6: be like, Okay, we are healthy enough one and we
Speaker 6: have the pieces to be a dominant D defense. I
Speaker 6: think this is gonna be some patchwork, like crazy, like
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to ay, where does this guy fit in.
Speaker 6: You're gonna bring in some more free agents off the
Speaker 6: street that probably played for Zimmer to see if they
Speaker 6: can they can help because they know the system. But
Speaker 6: right now, I think it's passwork. I think you're looking
Speaker 6: at top fifteen defense, and if you get that, I
Speaker 6: think you should you should be happy. I think you
Speaker 6: get top fifteen with with what you got right now,
Speaker 6: knowing the injuries and people coming off of what they
Speaker 6: what happened to him last season, and having Mazie Smith
Speaker 6: play in the interior. Yeah, I think in top fifteen
Speaker 6: is so no dominant, no dominant to answer that question,
Speaker 6: no dominant top fifteen.
Speaker 5: I think I think right that you are ecstatic.
Speaker 2: I will just the church say amen to what you said.
Speaker 3: You're gonna, I believe, face three of the top five
Speaker 3: or top eight rushing teams this year. You not fix
Speaker 3: this defense. The drafts showed you that you didn't fix
Speaker 3: the defense up front. As Warren Sapp always says, back
Speaker 3: don't work without the front. This front right now is
Speaker 3: a problem. And if I'm having you line up and
Speaker 3: face the Dallas Cowboys, I'm trying to figure where am
Speaker 3: I gonna run? Okay, we're running up the middle. Hey,
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons have fun chasing whatever's up the middle. So
Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna do. I am concerned about Mazzie Smith.
Speaker 3: What is the weight gain is he getting back there?
Speaker 3: He's had shoulder surgery. These things were not addressed enough
Speaker 3: in my opinion right now to simply say, looking at
Speaker 3: what Mike Zimmer wants to do, people gonna blame the carpenter.
Speaker 2: But then the carpenter gonna be able to say, what
Speaker 2: my tools?
Speaker 5: What do I have?
Speaker 2: And so that for me is scary.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to face San Francisco, you have to
Speaker 3: face Philadelphia twice. Well, if Kellen Wore decided to get
Speaker 3: it we'll figure that out. You're gonna face Detroit. You've
Speaker 3: got teams that are gonna want to come and do this.
Speaker 3: So how do you respond? Have they given Mike Zimmer
Speaker 3: enough to be dominant?
Speaker 2: Forget that?
Speaker 3: Have you given Mike Zimmer enough to just be competitive
Speaker 3: when it comes to that? So we shall see. I'm
Speaker 3: found the same letter play out right now? What I
Speaker 3: see I don't think so they can get and shootout,
Speaker 3: so you can do all that stuff. But if this
Speaker 3: team makes the playoffs, what have we seen the last
Speaker 3: three years?
Speaker 2: People?
Speaker 3: You can run on the Cowboys and you can beat them.
Speaker 3: They haven't fixed it, at least I haven't seen them
Speaker 3: fix it. Maybe I'll be wrong. They gonna find a
Speaker 3: way to plug holes. Mike Zimmer put some pixie dust
Speaker 3: and make some magic happen. But that's a concern for
Speaker 3: me right now for this football team. When I look
Speaker 3: at the defense and forget dominant, can you can you
Speaker 3: figure out a way to.
Speaker 2: Just stop the run?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: Because in the critical games we saw them play last year,
Speaker 3: we saw how they lost against the good teams who
Speaker 3: could run the football.
Speaker 7: And then you look at Zimmer's defenses. You know when
Speaker 7: he was in Minnesota, and what is he known for?
Speaker 7: And sin is what a you known for? Two safety
Speaker 7: high to saftyhead Harrison Smithy saying they hold them guys
Speaker 7: are too safeties highs, which means you're leaving the box light.
Speaker 5: That's what he's known for.
Speaker 7: Having those big guys in the middle, the big defensive
Speaker 7: line just out their gap stopping everything and linebacker's flowing.
Speaker 7: That's what he's known for this defense. The past couple
Speaker 7: years under Quinn, they've always had that extra guy in
Speaker 7: the box and he still hasn't been able to stop
Speaker 7: the run. Right right, Two safeties back light box with
Speaker 7: defenders that haven't been able to stop the run.
Speaker 5: To me, that's just not a good formula going forward.
Speaker 6: That's why you bring in the Kendricks, and he bringing
Speaker 6: the Kendricks because you understand from a linebacker standpoint, and Danny,
Speaker 6: you've been begging for this. It's a guy that could
Speaker 6: be tough in the middle and can stop those inside runs.
Speaker 5: You and I feel like you have that.
Speaker 6: And I feel like also with guys getting healthy back there,
Speaker 6: that that's going to be the importance put on this
Speaker 6: defense this season.
Speaker 5: You gotta stop it.
Speaker 6: Last season under Quinn the defense was undisciplined at best.
Speaker 6: You've seen those games where those guys are getting out
Speaker 6: of their running lanes because they're pad that they're stat
Speaker 6: padding right. Everybody's hot, boy, chain you want to get
Speaker 6: out there, you want to get pressure on sax strip, fumble,
Speaker 6: all of that.
Speaker 5: But then you're seeing the Green Bay game. Okay, get
Speaker 5: up the field.
Speaker 6: All we gonna do is just run this thing right
Speaker 6: behind you and pick up those extra yards. And so
Speaker 6: that's where I think the change for Mike Zimmer coming
Speaker 6: in and this guy is he's seeing the best of
Speaker 6: the best, and so's it's not like he doesn't come
Speaker 6: in with a reputation that you can hang your hat on,
Speaker 6: because he's that guy that that can tell you back
Speaker 6: in this year. This year, I've coached guys like Prime Time,
Speaker 6: I've coached at Charles Hayley. Look, can we just go
Speaker 6: down the list about like who who were sure about?
Speaker 6: Let's go if you just go down the list on
Speaker 6: the defense about hey man, I'm sure that this dude
Speaker 6: right here is going to have a productive season. The
Speaker 6: Marcus Lawrence de Marcus Lawrence. Well, I mean if you
Speaker 6: just start on the corner, Okay, Trayvon Diggs not healthy though,
Speaker 6: Like so I'm saying when you talk, so you're not
Speaker 6: sure about Trayvon Diggs, who was probably you know, one
Speaker 6: of your best players on defense, right, Malle Cooker, Billie Cooker,
Speaker 6: he's probably gonna he's gonna play how he plays right,
Speaker 6: so you can so you can count on him. Donovan
Speaker 6: will You got Donovan Wilson, you can count on him
Speaker 6: to play how he's gonna play. Then you got Jordan Lewis, right, and.
Speaker 5: Then you got right.
Speaker 6: So now then when you get to the to the
Speaker 6: to the next level, you got Kendricks Overshan Clark.
Speaker 5: Rick is also part.
Speaker 6: Don't know, I'm saying Kendricks you can depend on, right,
Speaker 6: So you're talking about this level, what we struggled at
Speaker 6: was do you Overshan.
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: But that's who they're pegging right to be the guy
Speaker 6: Mizzie Smith when you get to the to love before.
Speaker 7: That, I wouldn't it was that last year, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: When we play so right now you're just looking at
Speaker 6: a lot of spaces where you're like a like, I
Speaker 6: don't you know. You got d Long and you got
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons. But on the inside. After that, I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: Then you got Kendricks and then now you're like overshawan
Speaker 6: Or or DeMont Clark based off what we saw last season,
Speaker 6: and then the injury, You're not sure there. So right now,
Speaker 6: the most sure we are as the secondary, which is
Speaker 6: not the issue.
Speaker 5: That we've had. The issue that we've had is the
Speaker 5: front seven.
Speaker 3: So before we go to break, I just want to
Speaker 3: go over the opponents we're talking about, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to stop the run.
Speaker 2: Baltimore, Cincinnati at Atlanta.
Speaker 6: But who they replaced Joe Mixon with? Was it Aaron
Speaker 6: It was a good player. It was a good player.
Speaker 5: You know who Aaron Jones was Minnesota.
Speaker 2: It was a good play. It was a good player. Uh,
Speaker 2: you're at Carolina, You're at Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Coming coming back.
Speaker 2: But overall their identity is running. They go find somebody
Speaker 2: to run the ball.
Speaker 3: We don't know what the Giants are gonna do We
Speaker 3: know Philadelphia, They're at Pittsburgh, Okay, not Harris, you know,
Speaker 3: going on the ball there at San Francisco. They will
Speaker 3: face Detroit here, you know what that is. You will
Speaker 3: face Houston here, they got you mix. You will have
Speaker 3: a home game against New Orleans, Skippy Pete and Tampas coming.
Speaker 5: Here if he's still there, so.
Speaker 3: And then of course you got you got Washington. But
Speaker 3: just right here, you know we're naming there are there
Speaker 3: are some there. There's some running teams on the schedule,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be pretty clear. You got Bejonne Robinson
Speaker 3: Atlanta coming in here, new head coach. Okay, hey, let's
Speaker 3: let's try to run. So some of this stuff is here,
Speaker 3: and that's when we talk about just being dominant. I
Speaker 3: go back to, hey, look man, you're trying to beat
Speaker 3: this team and run the ball. So we'll have to see.
Speaker 3: We will have to see.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think we made down the room here all
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Speaker 3: So talking about the defense, and I'm looking looking for
Speaker 3: a bright spot, looking for somebody positivity.
Speaker 5: A new bright spot, Yes, okay.
Speaker 3: So along the way constantly talking about player development, and
Speaker 3: I remember Tom Landry saying by year three we got
Speaker 3: to see something.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I trying to find Okay, here's a year three guy.
Speaker 3: I need to find something from this player. I go
Speaker 3: to the defense, and for me right now, that defensive
Speaker 3: player Sam Williams, it's gonna be year number three, four
Speaker 3: and a half sacks last year there's times with Sam
Speaker 3: look good. Then there's sometimes you go, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: what you're doing out here. But to me, as Mike
Speaker 3: Zimmer takes over this defense and you need someone to
Speaker 3: step up and Sam Williams last year he complained about
Speaker 3: playing time. Dreant's Armstrong is gone, Tank Lawrence is obviously
Speaker 3: getting a little bit older. They did draft another guy
Speaker 3: it play defensive end section. So to me, I'm looking
Speaker 3: third year, you need to take this next step. This
Speaker 3: is your opportunity. I need saying Williams to go ahead
Speaker 3: and run through that.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 6: The thing about Sam Williams, he has the athletic ability
Speaker 6: and the talent to be a real dominant well a
Speaker 6: huge force in the league. We've seen him on special teams.
Speaker 6: We've seen our athletics. He's running down there playing gunner,
Speaker 6: which is usually for DB's and wide receivers, making plays
Speaker 6: black and punts. Now, he does have some of those
Speaker 6: brain farts sometimes where you like come on man, like
Speaker 6: in the penalties, like probably being in the right place
Speaker 6: at the right time. But yes, going in the year three,
Speaker 6: this is where you want to see him put all
Speaker 6: that together because you've seen it at each level special team.
Speaker 6: You see it on defense. You've seen the past rushing,
Speaker 6: so you know he has it. This is the time
Speaker 6: for him to get out there and put it all
Speaker 6: together and you know, make big time plays. Do I
Speaker 6: have high expectations for him, not to save the defense,
Speaker 6: but I do expect him to be better than he
Speaker 6: was last year. So when you when you talk about
Speaker 6: him being a gunner and DB's and receivers being a gunner,
Speaker 6: what are those guys' sizes?
Speaker 5: Like you're five eleven six eighty five pounds?
Speaker 6: J goodwell almost I had to run right through that too.
Speaker 6: For Sam is six and sixty one pound doing that,
Speaker 6: and they's just showing pure athleticism for him. For me,
Speaker 6: I look at I look at Sam Williams like I
Speaker 6: would look at a stock and what can be the
Speaker 6: return on investment with a guy like this? Like you
Speaker 6: look at the guys before, they were not performing. All right,
Speaker 6: four and a half sacks for him in limited time,
Speaker 6: that's showing that this guy can produce and he has
Speaker 6: the numbers there and by god, he has the size
Speaker 6: also to be a guy that you can move around
Speaker 6: as be a piece for coach Mike Zimmer. So look
Speaker 6: I think that the return on Sam Williams could be
Speaker 6: enormous because he's one of those guys that if you
Speaker 6: put him in a position and he can stop the
Speaker 6: brain farts. Basically in play bet don't line up outsides,
Speaker 6: don't jump off sides, don't cost guys at costly times. Man,
Speaker 6: this is a this is a player in year three
Speaker 6: that absolutely could help this defense out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm saying Williams can't be that guy, Like
Speaker 7: you said, the main thing with him is just upstairs,
Speaker 7: you know, is he gonna be able to stop the
Speaker 7: brain farts or when he has contained on the outside
Speaker 7: not to get reached by the offensive lineman and let
Speaker 7: the running backs get outside or the quarter get outside.
Speaker 7: Can he be that you know, unselfish player where it's
Speaker 7: not all about me getting these numbers? Can he do that?
Speaker 7: I believe so, And he can hopefully take that next step.
Speaker 7: It's just going to take the right coach and hopefully
Speaker 7: Zimmer is that guy. But for me, I got to
Speaker 7: look at a guy Damon Clark to me on that
Speaker 7: second level, he's got to take that jump and he's
Speaker 7: got to be the future on that second level for
Speaker 7: that linebacking corps. You know, we got Kendricks in here,
Speaker 7: and hopefully he can kind of be that mentor to
Speaker 7: help him show see help him see things pre snap
Speaker 7: and posts. Not to let him play a lot faster,
Speaker 7: because when you looked at it last year, he has
Speaker 7: all the capabilities athletically, but when you looked at it
Speaker 7: last year, those guys were getting to the second level
Speaker 7: and he just couldn't get off the blocks. I mean
Speaker 7: there was a time and time again where he was
Speaker 7: getting pushed out the screen. He has that athletic ability
Speaker 7: and this team needs, especially in a Zimmer defense, with
Speaker 7: those two high safeties out there, you're gonna have to
Speaker 7: have somebody on that second level that can control everything
Speaker 7: wrong sideline the sideline, make sure that when people do
Speaker 7: mess up, he can be there to correct it. And
Speaker 7: I believe he has that ability to do so, and
Speaker 7: hopefully he can with the help and the leadership of
Speaker 7: Kendricks taking these But as a veteran a white team
Speaker 7: look as a veteran though, as a veteran, when you
Speaker 7: when you bring in and Eric Hendricks, you know his reputation,
Speaker 7: do you think that he at least can be serviceable
Speaker 7: in this defense to be able to do exactly what
Speaker 7: you just asked, you know, to help a guy, uh
Speaker 7: to reach his potential as a linebacker.
Speaker 5: I think he I think he can be serviceable.
Speaker 7: The only linebacker that I've really seen year eleven now
Speaker 7: and still be really productive is Bobby Wagner, and that
Speaker 7: guy is a Hall of famer, so to me.
Speaker 5: You know, Kendricks, he was.
Speaker 7: Great early on in his Vikings career, but it's also
Speaker 7: the same guy I was.
Speaker 6: Shout South Carolina briefly out he can't do it. But
Speaker 6: I've rarely seen college.
Speaker 7: I've rarely seen, you know, a guy you know, double digits,
Speaker 7: you know, come into that linebacker spot and kind of
Speaker 7: reverse to Clark. I've rarely seen it regarding another system,
Speaker 7: but I've barely seen that's like a running back going
Speaker 7: into year ten, you know, now, account on him to.
Speaker 5: Be that year five guy. You see what he just did.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just saying, I don't know.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying. I'm willing to go out on number
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 6: I say, we will have a thousand yard number fifteen Russia.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 6: Number fifteen will be a thousand yard.
Speaker 2: And I didn't and I didn't have too number fifteen?
Speaker 5: That what you mean? Who? Who is number fifteen? Y'all know?
Speaker 5: Number fifteen is.
Speaker 6: Who y'all talking about? I read the twenty one and
Speaker 6: switching his number to fifteen. That's what I read. And
Speaker 6: he's going to go and he's going to be like,
Speaker 6: I don't have to do it. I don't go here we.
Speaker 5: Go, man.
Speaker 6: Keep now that I seen people saying he was going
Speaker 6: with fifteeneen twenty one. You can you see them post
Speaker 6: they posty three.
Speaker 5: Bro I mean sixth something last year? Yeah, sixth something
Speaker 5: last year he did.
Speaker 6: He wasn't even starting Tony Tony Paul ever fifty yards
Speaker 6: a game last year and had a thousand know what
Speaker 6: were talking about? You think it's easy to get that's
Speaker 6: actually a pretty low bar for starting.
Speaker 7: Running back in the NFN. Yeah, turning next seventeen.
Speaker 5: Six hundred.
Speaker 6: Last year with the New England Patriots, them boys had
Speaker 6: who was they starting quarterback? That's the daylight save all right?
Speaker 6: But hey, I got a fresh batch, a fresh batch.
Speaker 6: All I know is all I know is I'm watching
Speaker 6: the patri for two games last year and they was
Speaker 6: just they was worse than the New York giants to
Speaker 6: where you knew they was giving the ball the Saquan
Speaker 6: and him and them was out there still figuring out.
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Speaker 5: After this, I got yeah, God, we.
Speaker 2: Are a house divided right now.
Speaker 3: On Ezekiel Elliott, Danny's believing that two hundred carries in
Speaker 3: a thousand yards.
Speaker 6: You don't have to put it to hun he gonna
Speaker 6: get just just can we just do a thousand yards?
Speaker 6: We got to do the number of carries down thousand
Speaker 6: about it's a thousand yards, all right?
Speaker 5: Thousand yards? Okay? Wow, So I can't believe it.
Speaker 6: And that's and that's that's equal to or more than
Speaker 6: he got, equal to him money. We're good waiting to
Speaker 6: be total yards.
Speaker 2: Already?
Speaker 5: Can we do something? So now you marshall faulks once
Speaker 5: to see just started. It's solid.
Speaker 6: Something happened, so we can so we can't do totally yards? No,
Speaker 6: can we do anything? So how many total yards that count?
Speaker 6: This is Russian? You said, Rusty can't rush. That's what
Speaker 6: you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Rushing standing on that. I'm just asking to account.
Speaker 3: No rush, no rushing rushing because you wanted said Tony.
Speaker 5: Pola got he said, don't be myself, believe it legotia fifteen.
Speaker 2: So we got right here, total written down. I wrote
Speaker 2: it in there.
Speaker 5: You're supposed to be helping me.
Speaker 2: You gotta warming say something every about to get five
Speaker 2: and five?
Speaker 5: Okay, you get.
Speaker 6: Fined and the receiver that's hell, yeah, he rolled it
Speaker 6: inky on thousand yards of rushing Danny heck, right here,
Speaker 6: that's the best.
Speaker 5: I can't believe you what with that?
Speaker 6: Okay, So I was gonna say it recalls you know,
Speaker 6: like you know, like.
Speaker 5: I know, don't be getting nervous either.
Speaker 7: Tony Pollard better running back at this point in their career.
Speaker 2: Yes, last year, I know what Tony did, but Tony's
Speaker 2: a better player. So whoa back up? What you a
Speaker 2: better running back? In my opinion?
Speaker 5: And who.
Speaker 2: You talk about last year? What Tony Paul did that
Speaker 2: was number eight?
Speaker 6: I just add context to this. You're you're saying Tony
Speaker 6: Paul is a better running back than Zeke last season?
Speaker 3: Right now, I will tell you I think Tony Poller
Speaker 3: old last season when they was together, that the previous
Speaker 3: season when Tony made the probo better running back. Okay,
Speaker 3: So Tennessee Titans this year, he's over there. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: That's what I believe.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: So that's my opinion. Now here's another issue that you have.
Speaker 2: We don't know who the start the center is going
Speaker 2: to be. No, we don't know who to start left
Speaker 2: tackle is going to be.
Speaker 3: We don't we don't we have an idea of what
Speaker 3: they want to do. Right now, you're talking about putting
Speaker 3: two rookies out there if the cookies are healthy and
Speaker 3: ready to go and can can go. But and then
Speaker 3: Cooper b B, who I like as a draft pick
Speaker 3: from Kansas State, he's not been a full time center.
Speaker 3: It was all American, unanimous, all American in Kansas. But
Speaker 3: that was in the interior position. It wasn't it center.
Speaker 12: So we're talking about asking, you're talking about just just saying, Pam,
Speaker 12: and there's there's I know who the starting left tap
Speaker 12: is gonna be, and y'all know who's gonna be, and
Speaker 12: y'all know the star left guard is gonna be.
Speaker 6: I know what the left side is gonna look like.
Speaker 6: But can we actlate that we ain't got a guy
Speaker 6: in the first round? Yes, and we and we and
Speaker 6: we know that. Before that, we were talking about Tyler
Speaker 6: Smith moving out the left tackle. They went drafted the
Speaker 6: left tackle. I think they answered that question for us.
Speaker 6: Tyler left, brock Hoffman or BB is going to be
Speaker 6: your center.
Speaker 3: Okay, so starting left tackle, guy who played right tackle
Speaker 3: in college, now you're gonna kick him out to the left.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying there there could be I anticipate some
Speaker 3: challenges they're still rookies, putting two people out here and
Speaker 3: then had big blind call. I just think that's a
Speaker 3: lot going on there from an offensive line standpoint, And
Speaker 3: for a running back who was his two years since
Speaker 3: he had at least two years he hadn't had a
Speaker 3: thousand yards Russian and.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna help.
Speaker 5: It's back.
Speaker 2: Same guy, sad guy.
Speaker 5: They let go the stack. Let go it was.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 5: It was a money thing.
Speaker 6: They gave up to me, they gave you know, and
Speaker 6: and they brought him back.
Speaker 2: Last time he was here. What do we all say,
Speaker 2: Pollin is a better guy?
Speaker 5: What happened?
Speaker 2: Pollins made the Pro Bowl? But now, okay, somehow.
Speaker 6: That's Holler was no longer here because the last time,
Speaker 6: the last time, you just said, literally we just went
Speaker 6: through the running teams, and I said, Satin Parker, he said,
Speaker 6: well killing Moore, give.
Speaker 5: Them the ball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So now you're talking about the last time. It's
Speaker 6: last play here. Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, now Mike McCarthy ground chuck, is he Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5: Gonna run the ball.
Speaker 6: But the reasons, the reasons why he's gonna run the ball,
Speaker 6: The reason why he's gonna run the balls because just
Speaker 6: like you said they young out there on the offensive line.
Speaker 5: You want to let these dudes drop back forty times?
Speaker 6: Knowing that you got all these young dudes out here,
Speaker 6: are you gonna give my opportunity to go and mush
Speaker 6: people off the ball, get their feet under the under
Speaker 6: themselves and get a little confidence and then have somebody
Speaker 6: who is the hammer who were even looking for all
Speaker 6: last year.
Speaker 5: The hammer is gonna be back there.
Speaker 3: So now we've established this, there is a bet beverage
Speaker 3: food and beverage beverage. He got it, he got it,
Speaker 3: he will will he got the bet.
Speaker 5: So you ain't in the bat. I'm going I'm just struggled.
Speaker 6: But I want to go back to you in the
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two talking about Tony Poller being better than Zeke.
Speaker 5: Zeke would like.
Speaker 6: You said the hammer two hundred and twenty three carries,
Speaker 6: and you're telling me Tony Poller gets to come behind
Speaker 6: that as a change of pace back and you're gonna
Speaker 6: say he's better than z I ain't.
Speaker 5: Coming understand that.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 6: I get where you're going with and I'm telling you
Speaker 6: all of those stats combined does not. I'm just saying
Speaker 6: the facts are Tony Polla did make the Pro Bowl
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two. As a change of pace, back
Speaker 6: now to come fast forward that to tell me right
Speaker 6: now today that Tony Polla is better than Ezekiel led
Speaker 6: I don't agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: I believe if you.
Speaker 6: Ask, I'm talking about to complete back, he doesn't. If
Speaker 6: you ask, does he block better than ze?
Speaker 3: If you ask thirty one general managers today, Zeke, Tony poll.
Speaker 2: Who you taking?
Speaker 3: I believe overall those general managers would tell you give me.
Speaker 6: Twenty Like you said, is that block better than I'm
Speaker 6: just saying, Tono Waman, it's the same thing. It's a
Speaker 6: an't thinking at every position. Those are the intangibles, That's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. You don't just get an opportunity to
Speaker 6: line up and just get the ball. He's such a
Speaker 6: great block and they let him go. Come on with that, man,
Speaker 6: you don't even believe.
Speaker 5: You better? I think I think had.
Speaker 6: More receiving yards and Tony paulash Ain't there something that's crazy?
Speaker 5: What's the best?
Speaker 6: So got that playing with Mac Jones? Man, That's all
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That time, we run out of time, so we need
Speaker 3: to go ahead and nail us down, making sure we're okay.
Speaker 3: It is a thousand yards of brushing, yes, Danny and heckma,
Speaker 3: you guys are pro z on this burying not hitting
Speaker 3: here over here, okay.
Speaker 2: It is a food and beverage back that is yeah, perfect,
Speaker 2: we're good, We're good. Okay.
Speaker 5: Y'all thinks he gonna get that many carries? Yeah, I
Speaker 5: better get ready for some chili. Who ain't gonna be
Speaker 5: with it though, y'all know who ain't gonna be with
Speaker 5: At the beginning of the year, he was with gonna
Speaker 5: until it wasn't working.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be like this, Hey, we're gonna run this
Speaker 7: power they look, it's a line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6: Black man, you over thereveryone, come on, man over the
Speaker 6: contract that can't even about taking running back. Advice from
Speaker 6: the guy talking about Lifty being yeah, surprised.
Speaker 5: You know what else?
Speaker 3: Who else gonna get up in here to get they
Speaker 3: carry you a number two dudes, okay, spread spreading around.
Speaker 2: It's like gumbo running back.
Speaker 11: Ya.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of cowboy gumbo and.
Speaker 5: The running back.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of one year deals going around there.
Speaker 6: They're not gonna be risking their jobs on that foolish.
Speaker 6: It's okay, come on, man, back on the roster, on
Speaker 6: the field, I form Masze in the backfields, gonna hand
Speaker 6: it off the hundred lift.
Speaker 2: Watch watch now.
Speaker 5: Okay, I can't wait.
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Speaker 5: Then he so much fun like.
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