WEBVTT - Rob Dial: How to Break the Cycle of Procrastination & 3 Ways to Change Your Repeated Thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>I think if people are like I want to accomplish

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<v Speaker 2>this goal, the very next question is why, and then

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<v Speaker 2>go why why? Why? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>If your why is so strong, how it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be done. It doesn't matter who You'll figure out. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got a book out called Level Up rub Dial from

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<v Speaker 2>the Mindsetmental Podcast. Not everything that's happened to you in

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<v Speaker 2>your life is your fault, but whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to feel the feelings of fear, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>I also just try feeling the feelings of success in

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Shetty, Jay Shetty, sly Ja shet Hey, everyone, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to On Purpose. I am so glad that you

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<v Speaker 1>decided to tune in to listen, learn and grow. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>guest is a long time friend. When we tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about how we met and how long ago it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get to hear this story in a few moments.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm really excited because this is his first time

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. We're finally making it happen. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Rob Dile, the host of the hugely popular podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>The Mindset Mentor podcast. Rob simplifies neurology, psychology, and cognitive

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<v Speaker 1>behavioral therapy to help people grasp how their brains and

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<v Speaker 1>bodies function together. Rob's podcast is one of his biggest projects.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not subscribe yet, check it out. And Rob's

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<v Speaker 1>also the author of Level Up. The book is out

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<v Speaker 1>right now and it guides people to take action, overcome procrastination,

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<v Speaker 1>and form lasting habits. Rob believes that when you master

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<v Speaker 1>your mindset, you master your life. If you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>this book already, go and order it now. Level Up

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<v Speaker 1>by Rob Dow Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it's taken us this long. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're doing it. Hey, I love it and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't come to Austin enough. So we haven't done that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying to everyone, Yeah, we've we met seven

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. We were just talking about it in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we were both just starting out trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out, making content, figuring it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'd connected because I think we had a similar set

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<v Speaker 1>of like values and beliefs around the kind of mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were always really curious about Eastern spirituality, and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like we just had great conversations. We went

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple of walks, hung out, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just we were just saying this offline. It was you

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<v Speaker 1>who actually said to me back in twenty seventeen. You

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<v Speaker 1>were like, dude, you should start a podcast. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know if I have time, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm able to do. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it would be if you know, And you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you literally saying that you should just record

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<v Speaker 1>yourself walking around, like just whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You really have so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much wisdom, there's just it needs to people need to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But I'm grateful, man, for all those conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>all the conversations in between.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, man, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when we were talking about this as well. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I at that book. Actually you helped me with that,

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas like I felt like in twenty twenty, I never

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to write a book, and then in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, I'm kind of thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I talked with with one of my friends who

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<v Speaker 2>had written a book, and then I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hit up Jay and see what he thinks. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I called you up and I was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>like should I go traditional? Should I go like self published?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, well, traditional is good. You told me

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why. And it was like I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>like in life, you never see the entire path, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can look like in the headlights where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>if you drive at night, on see the entire path

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<v Speaker 2>to where you're going, but you can see the next

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<v Speaker 2>hundred feet in front of you. And like, the first

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet was calling my friend and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a successful book, what should I do? And

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<v Speaker 2>then the next hundred feet was calling you up and

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, yeah, you should do this. And so then

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to an agent, well a little bit further on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it took three years, but it eventually came out,

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<v Speaker 2>but you were a part of it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It took you thirty seconds to start dropping hacks, habits,

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<v Speaker 1>and tools.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's I know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Audience is going to love this conversation because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you all love mindset, I know you all love habits,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you love tools. This book is packed with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're going to extract it all out of Rob. So, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to dive straight in because I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things we can talk about, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>that this book has so much to do with focus

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<v Speaker 1>and we. I feel like that's a topic that's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't had many guests that have shed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of light on it, so this is perfect. Talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about why, because I know you love the neuroscience.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it that we all want something? We have goals,

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<v Speaker 1>we have things that we believe are important, but we

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<v Speaker 1>struggle to focus on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, there's a couple different things. I think. The

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<v Speaker 2>first thing is that we hold ourselves back from is

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of fears and fears when you

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<v Speaker 2>really start to dive into them, like you mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of this started talking with you about like

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<v Speaker 2>the East, and you started I remember you told me

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty seventeen like you should read the bogg of Ikita.

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<v Speaker 2>So I literally wrote it. I got it like the

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<v Speaker 2>next week and read it while we were traveling, and

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<v Speaker 2>so there was that, And as I was writing the book,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what's the thing because the original tide

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<v Speaker 2>of the book was the psychology of taking action? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at the mindset mentor podcasts. I have

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen hundred episodes and I was like, it's just me

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<v Speaker 2>speaking for almost every single one of them. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what do I teach? Like what do what

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<v Speaker 2>do people want for me? And I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost all like tips and tricks understand yourself to take

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<v Speaker 2>action because everybody who's listening to a podcast has the

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<v Speaker 2>awareness of I want to improve, I want to get better,

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<v Speaker 2>I want something different, but how do I do it?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I started saying, Okay, if taking action is

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<v Speaker 2>what the book's going to be about, like why don't

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<v Speaker 2>people take action in the first place? And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that pops up for people is fear, like

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<v Speaker 2>they're just there's some sort of fear that pops up

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<v Speaker 2>for them and I had a conversation with one of

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<v Speaker 2>my friends who went and lived in the tribe with

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<v Speaker 2>a tribe, a native Brazilian tribe in the middle of Brazil,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he had to fly into a town, he

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<v Speaker 2>had to hop on a boat and go for two

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<v Speaker 2>days on at in the middle of nowhere. And he

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<v Speaker 2>started talking to me about these things that he called

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<v Speaker 2>primal fears and intellectual fears. So, like a primal fear

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<v Speaker 2>is pain or death is attached to it, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really come up with too many primal fears in

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<v Speaker 2>our life nowadays. Intellectual fear is like what we deal

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<v Speaker 2>with all day long, which is, you know, the fear

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<v Speaker 2>of rejection, the fear of failure, the fear of not

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<v Speaker 2>being accepted, the fear of success. We all these fears,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of these fears are made up in our minds.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was listening to I'm pretty sure it

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<v Speaker 2>was sad Guru I was listening to, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I put on and I was driving around in Sedona

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<v Speaker 2>as I was writing the book. I was there just

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get my whole mind together, is by

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<v Speaker 2>myself writing it. And I was like looking at fears

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to figure them out. And one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>he said that like really hit me more than anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>is Okay, I've identified my fears, and the next thing is, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I overcome these fears? And if it's an

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<v Speaker 2>intellectual fear, the fears that exists in our minds is

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<v Speaker 2>you can't overcome something that doesn't exist. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>create we basically wake up with in the book we

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<v Speaker 2>wake up in the morning, we create the Boogeyman, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like the fear of success, the fear fairy, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And instead of actually taking the action that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to and focusing on what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>we want, we take all of our focus and put

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<v Speaker 2>it towards trying to overcome this fear, when in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>the fear doesn't even exist in the first place. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think the biggest thing for most people is

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<v Speaker 2>like the fear is keeping you from focusing. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>also like the identity of who you think you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of my favorite things is challenging who I

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<v Speaker 2>think I am all the time. Like I love the

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<v Speaker 2>story and I put in the Book of Jim Carrey

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<v Speaker 2>when he decided to be and man on the moon

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<v Speaker 2>and the Man on the Moon was a movie where

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<v Speaker 2>he ended up playing Andy Kaufman, and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>whole documentary that was done on this and they curbed

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<v Speaker 2>it for like twenty years because it was so off

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<v Speaker 2>the rails of how crazy he went and what he

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<v Speaker 2>did was he It's a documentary called Jim and Andy

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<v Speaker 2>that's on him playing the role on Man on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>So Andy Kaufman was a guy who was once alive.

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<v Speaker 2>And the crazy part of any about Andy Kaufman is

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<v Speaker 2>he also played other characters. So it was Jim Carrey

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<v Speaker 2>playing Andy Kaufman, who played like Tony Clifton and other characters.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing that happened with him was that he

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<v Speaker 2>would never break character, so he was a method actor.

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<v Speaker 2>So for four months he played as this real life person,

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<v Speaker 2>and even to the point where his driver that would

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<v Speaker 2>pick him up in Hollywood and drive him to his

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<v Speaker 2>house said that whoever he was playing at the time

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<v Speaker 2>that they stopped recording, whether it was Andy Kaufman, Tony Clifton,

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<v Speaker 2>he would play that person the entire day when he

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<v Speaker 2>was driving him home that night and he picked him

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<v Speaker 2>up and he was still the same person, not Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Carrey anymore. And so what happened was he he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up like and it gets kind of crazy where he

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<v Speaker 2>ends up doing therapy sessions with Andy Kaufman's real daughter

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<v Speaker 2>and his family to help them overcome his sudden death.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what happens is they stopped recording four months later,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I don't know who I am and

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<v Speaker 2>he lost who he was, and he's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know my beliefs. I don't know what makes me happy, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what makes me sad, what pisses me off anymore. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've kind of just lost who Jim Carrey is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like his spiritual awakening that you've seen him

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<v Speaker 2>go through over the past twenty years. And he realized,

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<v Speaker 2>if I can lose Jim Carrey, then who the hell

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<v Speaker 2>is Jim Carrey? And he realized that Jim Carrey is

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<v Speaker 2>just basically a character that he's playing all the time

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<v Speaker 2>that is completely somebody else, and he could just wake

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<v Speaker 2>up another morning and act like he's somebody else. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that two of the things that really

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<v Speaker 2>keep us from focusing on stuff is we get really

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<v Speaker 2>afraid and fearful of making change or judgment or failure

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, and the other thing is like, who

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<v Speaker 2>we actually truly think we are will hold us back

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<v Speaker 2>from tiking either the action that we need to or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, staying in the exact same position that we're in.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go down both of those routes because

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<v Speaker 1>I find them both fascinating for different reasons. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go down that more spiritual ethereal journey as

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<v Speaker 1>well too, because yeah, but before we do that, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that so if we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the fears that people are experiencing, as you said, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the time, it's an intellectual fear.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not real, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so real, feels really right, Like when someone

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<v Speaker 1>says like, oh, I'm really scared about what if I

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<v Speaker 1>get rejected from the job, or I'm really scared that

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<v Speaker 1>my partner is going to leave me, or I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>scared that I don't feel good enough or smart enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make it in whatever field it is, those feel

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<v Speaker 1>extremely real. How do you process a feeling that feels

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<v Speaker 1>real even though it may be intellect.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah, well, so that's the beautiful thing about being

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<v Speaker 2>a human. And I think it's and you can correct

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<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong, but I think it's actually in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bagavakisi. It gives an example of a lion attacking

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<v Speaker 2>you or tiger attacking you at night. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the examples I give in the book is

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<v Speaker 2>similar that, where it's like, if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>if you we've all had this. We have a really

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<v Speaker 2>intense dream, like you're walking in a forest whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see a lion. It starts running after you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you run from it. You turn, you look over, your

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder's getting closer. You're still running from it. You turn

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<v Speaker 2>and look over your shoulder just as teeth are about

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<v Speaker 2>to dig into you. And you wake up in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night and your body didn't move at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're sweating, you're out of breath, your heart rate

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<v Speaker 2>is in tensely going. And the amazing thing about being

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<v Speaker 2>a human, you know they usually say in any case,

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<v Speaker 2>is what your biggest strength is is also can be

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<v Speaker 2>your biggest fault. The thing about humans is that we

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<v Speaker 2>can project our minds into a future that doesn't exist yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what we can do right now is we

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<v Speaker 2>can sit here. You know, we're in the studio. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>is amazing we have food, water, shelter, clothing, everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm like a lot of people do, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting a business, right I can sit here and

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<v Speaker 2>I can think, well, I really want to start this business,

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<v Speaker 2>But then I start playing out all of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that could go wrong, which is what we tend to do,

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<v Speaker 2>not what goes right, but what could go wrong when

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<v Speaker 2>I project my mind into that future. The crazy part

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<v Speaker 2>is that my mind and my body are constantly connected,

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<v Speaker 2>So my brain is sending neuropeptides to my body and

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<v Speaker 2>creating hormones as if that moment is actually happening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what happens is we tend to as humans,

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<v Speaker 2>as a protection mechanism, we tend to project ourselves into

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<v Speaker 2>a future that is fearful, that is scary, and that fearful,

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<v Speaker 2>scary feeling usually keep us in the exact same place.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what I always say is like, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to imagine the worst that could happen, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>I at least try to see the best that could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if I'm going to notice myself the awareness

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<v Speaker 2>of like I'm really in a lot of fear right

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<v Speaker 2>now with starting this business, and I'm going, man, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the worst that could happen? Well, then I might as

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<v Speaker 2>well close my eyes and say, like, what's the best

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen? And what would it feel like to

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<v Speaker 2>start this business and to be able to crack a

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars in a business? And how proud of myself

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<v Speaker 2>would I be to break a million dollars in sales

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<v Speaker 2>and to be able to build this and travel with

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<v Speaker 2>my family and provide what I've always wanted to provide.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I'm going to feel the feelings of fear,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't I also just try on feeling the feelings

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<v Speaker 2>of success in getting there. And so if we notice

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<v Speaker 2>it's an intellectual fear, the first piece that I always

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<v Speaker 2>say is there's three pieces. There's the awareness of it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aware. Then I'm in a state of fear. I

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<v Speaker 2>need a practice to get myself out of that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I notice myself in a state of fear, what's

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<v Speaker 2>my practice to get myself out of it? Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna calm down and take

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<v Speaker 2>six deep breaths, and I'm gonna connect back to my heart,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna ask myself like, what's the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen. That's the practice to get myself out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And then the last piece is repetition. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's awareness, it's practice, it's repetition. If I do it

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again, eventually I start to

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<v Speaker 2>rewire myself. So like, one of the things that that

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<v Speaker 2>I found in myself years ago that I didn't like

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<v Speaker 2>was was that I judge people. And I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I love people like I love I try to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to be of service as much as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>But an immediate thought that will come in my head

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes is like judgment of somebody that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I judge them, and I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that pattern. I want to change this pattern within myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awareness. I've become aware of what I want to change.

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<v Speaker 2>And the one the first time I really did it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at a grocery store and this guy had

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<v Speaker 2>this like bluetooth, you know, like the long bluetooth. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like as if he was, you know, making cold

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<v Speaker 2>calls at an office, but he was at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 2>And immediately the first thought in my head was judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always say, you can't change your first thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>you could change your second thought. I noticed a judgment

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<v Speaker 2>is a first thought. Awareness. My practice that I decided

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<v Speaker 2>for myself was I'm going to force myself in my

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<v Speaker 2>head to say three things that I like about this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I pause myself in the moment I found myself in

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<v Speaker 2>a pattern that I don't want to be in anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>What are three things that I like by the sky?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said it, and then I went on about

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<v Speaker 2>my day and I started doing this over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over and over again. And one thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed is that my first thought started changing to less

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<v Speaker 2>judgment and more acceptance, because ultimately that's what I really

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<v Speaker 2>want to work on, is more acceptance and loving of

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<v Speaker 2>people and of myself. And so I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>becoming aware of it. Once you're aware of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you're trying the patter of you're trying to change,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the practice that you're going to take yourself down?

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<v Speaker 2>And then noticing that you're just going to need to

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<v Speaker 2>do it over and over and over again. But one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest keys is to give yourself grace as

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it, because a lot of times we make

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<v Speaker 2>were become aware, and then we judge ourselves and we

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<v Speaker 2>beat ourselves up for it. So I think it's giving

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a lot of loving grace and going hey, I've

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<v Speaker 2>noticed this pattern. Don't worry, we're going to change it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go on practice and just continuing to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so well said. Hey everyone, it's Jay here.

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<v Speaker 1>we get scared even of having the thought of what

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<v Speaker 1>and we just find another thing to be fearful love.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love this idea of what you're saying around

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<v Speaker 1>transform in your thoughts, because I've definitely the more and

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<v Speaker 1>more I've studied books, the more and more I've read

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<v Speaker 1>and I've thought, I've discovered that all of our failure

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<v Speaker 1>and success in life is based on our most repeated thought.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my biggest questions to most people I

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<v Speaker 1>meet now is what is your most repeated thought? And

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<v Speaker 1>most people don't know the answer because they're not aware

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<v Speaker 1>in your words, and a lot of people who do

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<v Speaker 1>know will say it's something like I'm not good enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way I look, I am ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever else it may be for them, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're either aware and it's negative, or we're unaware

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so subconscious. And I've started to recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>most of the thoughts we have are not that different.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the same thought that comes in a different voice,

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<v Speaker 1>a different tone, a different vocabulary, a different language, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same repetition. And so I've started to really

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<v Speaker 1>think about what's my most repeated door and how can

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<v Speaker 1>I be more? As you are saying, how can I

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<v Speaker 1>be more selective about it, and how can I choose

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<v Speaker 1>it more effectively rather than just let it be something

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of just coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like not don't identify with your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like one of the things that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember where I heard it before, but the way I

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<v Speaker 2>like to think about it, and I've heard you say before,

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<v Speaker 2>even like a lot of people say, like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>struggle with meditating, and I've heard you say before, where

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about mastering your thoughts. It's not about making

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts going away. It's just becoming aware of your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts a little bit more. Because when we close our eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, about sixty percent of our brain is visual

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<v Speaker 2>for visual things to see. So when we close our eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of turns off a lot of parts, and

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<v Speaker 2>so thoughts usually come up and we become aware of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Like one of the things that I've been doing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot recently is like trying to be in as much

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<v Speaker 2>silence as possible, Like I'm just trying to be as

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<v Speaker 2>much silence as I possibly can, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's where a lot of my awarenesses, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my answers come from, and so when you sit there,

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<v Speaker 2>and the analogy that I love when you start thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of your thoughts is it's like sitting on the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of a mountain and down below there's just a road

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<v Speaker 2>going that you're looking at. And sitting on the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of the mountain is like meditating or just sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>silence and just you know, looking at your thoughts, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can watch the cars go by, the thoughts that

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<v Speaker 2>go by, and not have to be attached to them.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't find yourself getting sucked into the red car

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<v Speaker 2>that just went by. You just watched the cars go by.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the way that I try to see my thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Okay, I'm going to watch them go by.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to connect to them, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>look at them and be like, is this thought, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know about ninety percent of our thoughts the same

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<v Speaker 2>as yesterday, is this thought helping me and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get to where I want to be in life? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is this thought holding me back from trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>to where I want to be in life? And if

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<v Speaker 2>it's helping me, then I want to strengthen it. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's not helping me, well then hey, as that guy

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast said, I can control my first stop,

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<v Speaker 2>I could troll my second, So what would I prefer

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<v Speaker 2>my second thought to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you just hit the nail on the head,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what it is for me. It's whether you've

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<v Speaker 1>understood that you're not your thoughts or not. That can

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<v Speaker 1>be quite hard for people because I think we're so

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<v Speaker 1>close to them. But even if you can practice distance

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<v Speaker 1>through meditation or mindfulness, the real win is being able

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<v Speaker 1>to look at a thought and say is it good

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<v Speaker 1>for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is it not helpful?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just said, I think that is the wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>of it. That can I evaluate everything that's repetitive in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind and ask myself is this useful? Is it helpful?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it allowing me to move in the direction I want?

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<v Speaker 1>Because chances are a lot of what we're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing the complete opposite. And then you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute. Even though it's interesting and even though

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<v Speaker 1>I could get lost in it, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>waste time, and therefore I'll move in the other direction.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about procrastination in this book, and that, again

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<v Speaker 1>going back to your earlier title, is a block against

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<v Speaker 1>the psychology of action, and we all have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe we are that friend that constantly puts things off.

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<v Speaker 1>We postpone, we procrastinate, We say I'll do it another year.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to launch a podcast. Someone's been saying that

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<v Speaker 1>for two years. There's someone listening right now who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to start on Instagram page. They put it off for

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<v Speaker 1>six months. There's someone listening who's like, oh, I missed

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<v Speaker 1>out in the clubhouse thing, and then I missed out

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<v Speaker 1>on the TikTok thing, and now I'm missing out on

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the next thing is. And we procrastinate, hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>one day will come. What have you learned about procrastination

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<v Speaker 1>through your research when you were writing the book that

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<v Speaker 1>has helped people break that cycle? Because it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>apply to so many of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the thing about it is this, if I've

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<v Speaker 2>always I always like to be like very extreme in

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<v Speaker 2>examples because we can go extreme that it makes a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sense. But I always tell people like and

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<v Speaker 2>I always say it like, hey, I've given this. When

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<v Speaker 2>I used to give a lot of speeches, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be in front of people and say, hey, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>chance of you making a million dollars this year? Give me?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me numbers, and everyone's like zero percent, zero percent,

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<v Speaker 2>zero percent, one percent, there's always one percent, like five

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<v Speaker 2>and that's like the most it'll get to. And I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you the most extreme example, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to see what happens. Okay, what's the percentage

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<v Speaker 2>chance of you making a million dollars this year legally?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't, everyone that you love dies. And

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like one hundred percent, one thousand, one thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what changed? The goal? Didn't change, the timeframe,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't change. Why you're doing it changed. Would you wake

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<v Speaker 2>up in the morning if everyone that you loves life

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<v Speaker 2>depended on it and be like, yeah, well maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>should scroll on TikTok for a little while. No, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I'm going to take action immediately. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't need to be like a fear of losing everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's really behind that is like why, like why

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're doing it? Like if I have a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of anyone who doesn't know Jay, like you're one of

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest working people I've ever met, but you have

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<v Speaker 2>a really strong why, right, And that's like one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best parts about it. Where it's like when I

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<v Speaker 2>see jam like this guy has he has this internal

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of like I want to change the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>you work so hard trying to do it. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most beautiful things about you, is like

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<v Speaker 2>you're wanting to change the world and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>really strong why to it. And I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>most people could figure out, like, oh, yeah, well I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do this thing, why do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it? And my very first one on one coach

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<v Speaker 2>used to say to me, he would say, what's your why?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your why? Why are you doing this? Why are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing this? Even like hammer it home in my

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<v Speaker 2>head and I was like, why you asked this so much?

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<v Speaker 2>And he would always say, because if your why is

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<v Speaker 2>strong enough, your how will reveal itself. If you know

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<v Speaker 2>why you want to do something, how it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be done, you'll figure out it doesn't matter. Things are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get in your way. There's going to be obstacles.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always gonna be obstacles, there's always going to be challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always going to be moments of like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I can do this, But if your why

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<v Speaker 2>is so strong, it's like I don't care what comes

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<v Speaker 2>up in front of me. I'm going to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Like most people, they want to be motivated. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have come to hate the word motivation because motivation is

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<v Speaker 2>so fleeting, like we can wake up and we can

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<v Speaker 2>listen to a podcast where we can get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>read something and be motivated, and then something can happen

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<v Speaker 2>to us and it's gone, which just disappears. What I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be is I want to be driven. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when you see a driven person, like you see it

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<v Speaker 2>in their eyes, like yeah, they're not stopping. And the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between a motivated person a driven person is that

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<v Speaker 2>a driven person has this why that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>see have happened in the world or in their life

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<v Speaker 2>or for their family. And so I think if people

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<v Speaker 2>are like I want to accomplish this goal, the very

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<v Speaker 2>next question is why, and then go why why? Why why?

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<v Speaker 2>And go deeper into it. An example I'd give him

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<v Speaker 2>the book is I had a coaching client years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>like eight nine years ago, and he was like, Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make one hundred thousand dollars this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never made it, And I was like why, And

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<v Speaker 2>I took him through what's called seven levels of why,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep asking why, why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>And it went from I want to make a hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year because I've never done it before

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<v Speaker 2>to the eventual thing was he had just got into

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<v Speaker 2>a divorce a couple of years ago. Both of his

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<v Speaker 2>young children lived in a bad part of town with

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<v Speaker 2>his ex wife. He wanted to regain custody because he

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<v Speaker 2>was afraid that both of his children would be killed

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<v Speaker 2>in a drive by and he was so terrified of

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<v Speaker 2>it that that was his actual true why, And so

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the motivation. I didn't have to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>him say hey, you know how close you'd make a

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars this year? I said, hey, how

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<v Speaker 2>close are you to provided more safety for your children

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<v Speaker 2>this year? Because he wanted them to move in with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to be able to provide for them and

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that they were safe. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that if we just ask ourselves, why do I

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<v Speaker 2>truly want to accomplish this goal, it kind of reveals

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<v Speaker 2>itself and it makes it a lot easier to take

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<v Speaker 2>the action.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I mean I you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate all the kind words but I can definitely say

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that's kept me going is my why,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think there are so many things that either

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<v Speaker 1>make you want to give up or slow down, or

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<v Speaker 1>become lazy or complacent. And when I look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone asked me this, I was sitting with another

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<v Speaker 1>creator end of last year and he was just like

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Jay, why do you even do anything anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's the point? Like it seems like you're good,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why do you need to do anything? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, We've just got to the start of Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just got to the beginning of where I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I was like, we've just got to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where we can connect with lots of people, but

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<v Speaker 1>we need to give people the step by step process

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<v Speaker 1>to transform their life. And now we can take them

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<v Speaker 1>on the journey because people are listening, they're engaged. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a community, we have a connection with people. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I started out, we didn't have any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I see it as we got to the start

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<v Speaker 1>of where I want to be because and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just interesting to me that so many people struggle to

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<v Speaker 1>find their why, and I think it's because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>no one's and you just said, your coach helped you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It was the same with me my art teacher

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<v Speaker 1>at from age eleven to age eighteen. He was my

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<v Speaker 1>art teacher at school, and every time i'd paint something,

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<v Speaker 1>or draw something, or do a collage or graphic design

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever i'd do, the first question he'd ask me

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<v Speaker 1>is why did you do it? And I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>because my initial response because it looks good like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was a kid, what do I know?

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<v Speaker 3>And he'd be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year he'd be like, why did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like, oh, because this color matches with

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>this color. And they'd be like, why do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, because it reveals the metaphor that

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is about. And then he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you do it? And I'm like, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm feeling right now, I'm trying to And every

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<v Speaker 1>year it would ask me it would reveal more and

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<v Speaker 1>more layers of my psyche in a similar way. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I've owed it to someone in my life who pushed

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<v Speaker 1>me to ask the question why, same as you, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think what we're both saying is please ask

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<v Speaker 1>that question to yourself. But what if someone asked that

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<v Speaker 1>question and they feel stuck and they kind of go,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I've asked it, but it's kind of just like just

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 1>want a nice house. That could just want a nice car,

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<v Speaker 1>or just I just kind of want to you know,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's not that deep. And I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, we don't have a lot of primal fears.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some people are listening right now will have fears

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<v Speaker 1>of survival and that is driving them and they are

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<v Speaker 1>working hard and they are pushing and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>but people who are like driven, but they're like, I'm

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>not driven enough because I haven't got anything to be

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<v Speaker 1>that scared about it, right, or that worried about what?

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<v Speaker 1>How do that person discover their work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think for me, it's like my life was

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<v Speaker 2>never terrible or you know, like when I when I

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<v Speaker 2>started the Yeah, when I started the podcast the mindset

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<v Speaker 2>mentor like I was at a point in my life

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<v Speaker 2>where I was making a whole bunch of money and

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<v Speaker 2>I was twenty seven years old, and I was making

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty grand a year, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>working from home and everything was great, but I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I was slowly withering away. And I could see

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<v Speaker 2>what the future was going to be while I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, oh, okay, if I do this for

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<v Speaker 2>another five years and I'm thirty two years old and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still doing this, or I have my manager's job,

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<v Speaker 2>is that going to fulfill me? And it actually gave

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>me more anxiety to think about having my manager's job.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>And then I sat there and I thought, Okay, well,

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 2>like I really want to do this podcasting thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be going pretty well. I want to coach people.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to help people. And I also at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, was like starting an Amazon business and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make money online and do that. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it and I asked myself, Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 2>fast forward five years from today, do I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the person that's in sales management like I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>now and consulting. Do I want to be the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's selling stuff on Amazon and you know, incredible Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>business person. Or do I want to be the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's coaching people and helping people change their lives. And

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<v Speaker 2>the immediate answer was very clear, coaching people and changing

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<v Speaker 2>their lives. And I was like, Okay, well, that feels

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 2>like it's the path and then immediately comes up is

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of fear because I don't know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like back in the day twenty fifteen, nobody made any

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<v Speaker 2>money in podcasts. I didn't have any idea of how

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<v Speaker 2>to grow a business any of that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was important to me was number one, when

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I fast forwarded into the future, the futures that I

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't want seemed way more painful than trying the unknown

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>and what could be if I did take the path,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>And so that was that became more of a fear,

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 2>like the fear of judgment, the fear of putting myself

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>out there are the people's opinions. It was there, it's

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>still there, and I don't know if you ever get

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>past it, but you just kind of get more used

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to it. But the fear of being in the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same position, working the same job, maybe making a little

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>bit more money doing this for every day until the

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>day I die, was terrified. That that was a fear,

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, well, then this path of the

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>unknown isn't as scary, and so I might as well

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>take this path of the unknown and I'll be fully transparent.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>There was I shared this on like one other time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was a moment in twenty fifteen where

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I started the podcast. In August of twenty fifteen. November

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of twenty fifteen, I was feeling like a whole lot

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of fear, and I was like, I might have to

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>go back and work for someone else again. And it

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>was just fear was so in my head, and I

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>was like, I gotta go back to making money. I

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>got a new house, I got a mortgage. I don't

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>know how'm gonna do this. I'm not making any money

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.959
<v Speaker 2>doing this. My sister came out to me, and I believe,

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're silent, the messages are always there.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>If you're looking the message, you're always there. And my sister,

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I was at her house and she goes, hey, have

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>you ever seen this box the dad's stuff? And I

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 2>was like no, and she brought up my father was

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>an alcoholic. He passed away and I was fifteen from

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 2>his alcoholism. And she brought out this box and it

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>was like his glasses, there's a t shirt of his,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it was his watch, and the other things were a

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>bunch of letters. My dad was in jail for a

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>little while for multiple DUIs and they put him in jail,

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 2>and he would write letters to us. And he wrote

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>a letter to my sister on her nineteenth birthday and

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I was reading this, you know, twenty fifteen, so he

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>would have wrote it to in nineteen ninety nine. And

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the very last line was I hope you live your

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>life with courage, love and laughter. And I read it

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 2>and it was like the universe warped. And I was like, oh,

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>he wrote this for me. Like there was a moment

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, he wrote this to my sister,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>but the universe is giving this sussage through my dad

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>because I need to hear this right now because I'm

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>in so much fear. And the very first line is courage.

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Live your life with courage, love and laughter. And I

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I got to commit, Like this has to

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>be the thing. I've got to make a decision. And

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 2>when you look at the root word of decision, it's dicaderia,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 2>which means to cut off. I'm going to cut off

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>all other options.

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd heard like Will Smith say there's no reason to

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 2>have Plan B because it distracts from Plan A, Like

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be the thing, and I was like,

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I got to commit to this thing.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't have any more feelings of like I'm going

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>to go back to working for someone else. Like this

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>is my life path. I'm either going to succeed it

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:40.959
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to die trying. And I was like

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do. I was like, I'm

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>going to get this tattooed to my arm, so I

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>literally have you live your life with courage, love and

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 2>laughter tattooed to my my very first tattoo I ever got.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>But it was like for me, people always think like

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 2>when you make a decision, the fear disappears, like I

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>wish that I could do these things, but it's like

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>it's always there, but you've got to learn that, Like

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 2>the fear is always going to be there. But my

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 2>big fear is getting to end my life and having

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>not done this, having not tried to help people, you know,

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>like being in the room with my father after he

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>passed away when I was fifteen years old and realizing,

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>because he was the first person I ever met the

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 2>past away, I'm going to be there one day. And

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I saw it. I was like, oh, yeah, that's I'm

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna He was a dreamer and he was an amazing person,

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't do what he wanted to do. I

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>am not going to live that life. I'm going to

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 2>create what I want to create. And now I have

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:32.959
<v Speaker 2>all of the other fears that everyone else has, but

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>my biggest fear is getting to end my life and

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>not having tried or not having at least gone for it.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's I love hearing that.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And you've reminded me of a great speech that Jim

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Carrey gave funnily enough, and he talked about how his dad.

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe his dad and I could be getting this wrong,

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.239
<v Speaker 1>but he said that his dad was an accountant and

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>he did that to be safe, and he said that

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>when he was young, his dad got made redundant from

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>his safe job. Right, Jim Carrey said that in life,

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you are probably going to fail at something you don't love,

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>so you might as well try something you do love,

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>like this idea that I'm choosing the safe option, or

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm choosing something that my parents taught my family wanted,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>or I'm choosing something I think is secure even that's

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>unstable and uncertain, and so the uncertainty that you pursue

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>actually is less fearful because you're on top of it,

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you're aware. And I think that's one of the biggest

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>habits that I think is changed my life is that

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I stopped believing and accepting that I would get to

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a place where I no longer had to use my brain.

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Right Like I think we all believe subconsciously somewhere that

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a paycheck, there's a bank balance, there's a home,

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a fashion, there's a partner. That means from that

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>point on, I don't have to think about anything because

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.719
<v Speaker 1>it's all good. And I'd say my best habit in

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>life is recognizing that that is the biggest myth that

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we've been sold and I just don't accept it. And

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay that my life requires constant work, ethic and

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>effort and awareness and being astute and being conscious because

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that is what's actually being demanded by this world. A

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>uncertain world forces you to be conscious. But if you're

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>unconscious in an uncertain world, that's leading to a really

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>dangerous place.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, but I think.

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>We're waiting for that moment where we can just not

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>be conscious because it's so much hard work. But to

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>your point, it's way hard at work being unconscious because

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the amount of unconscious issues that arise are numerous.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I think there's like a lot of wisdom in what

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 2>you said, because a lot of people would rather just

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>be like, well, let me get to this destination once

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 2>and there everything becomes better.

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Andy, I want that too, I do too right.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And I thought that for a long time. And it's

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>interesting the journey that I've had is, you know, I

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>always want to make money because I thought money was

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>going to give me what I needed. It would give

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 2>me that safety and security that I never felt as

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>a child. And then I got to a goal that

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get to, and I realized, I feel

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>exactly the same as I've always felt. I don't feel

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 2>any different. I don't feel any more secure, I don't

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 2>feel any happy, I don't feel any more loved. And

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 2>what I realized was I thought that the achievement, the

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>recognition from other people, the money in my bank account,

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the buying cool stuff would fill what I actually thought

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>was and consciously now know is I thought that all

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>of those things would fill a void that was inside

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>of me. And what I realized is what I was

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>searching for from the external world is actually what I

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>was searching for for myself. And so the reason why

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 2>I spend so much time in silence nowadays, I'll just

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 2>go out of my porch and I'll just sit there

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>for a couple hours is because I'm trying to fill

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the void that I have created through life and through patterns,

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and through heartbreaks and through all of the things that

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 2>happened in my childhood. And I'm trying to be there

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>as the thirty eight year old man for the nine

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>year old boy that's still healing. And what I've realized

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>is that none of the material things, anything externally, will

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>ever give me what I was ever searching for. Everything

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I've always searched for in the external was what I've

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>been searching for for myself. And so I don't one

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent agree with you. I don't think there's any

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 2>destination we ever get to. I think I'm constantly going

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to overcome more things every single day. And you know,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>if I lived to one hundred, I would be so

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>lucky in another sixty two more years. I don't expect

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to get to the end of my

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>life and be like I figured it out. I think

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the beautiful thing part about it is I think that

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I was given this need for achievement to realize that

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't change anything because the path of wanting to

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>achieve and doing it through business and doing it through

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>growing and all that stuff has actually lit up inside

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 2>of me a spiritual journey that wouldn't have been there

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>had I not wanted to go for those things.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, I heard this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're reminded me of this story that's told about Benjamin Franklin.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And Benjamin Franklin had thirteen virtues and these were all

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>qualities that he aspired to develop in his life. Simplicity, authenticity, patience,

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>things like that. And when he was on his deathbed,

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>they asked him which one he didn't accomplish and he

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>said it was the thirteenth one and they said what

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>was that?

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 3>And he said humility.

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And I love that because I think what you're saying

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>is humility doesn't mean you're meek or weak. It means

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm able to accept there's always more to learn. I

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know everything, and it's okay. I'm going to give

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>myself grace for it too. It isn't a feeling of

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm useless because I don't know. It's actually, I'll become

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>more useful if I recognize there are things that I

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>still have to learn. And when I'm listening to you

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>about your spiritual journey and that's silence, I'm intrigued by

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that walk us through how you fill that void almost

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>practice wise, because I identify with that fully. And it's

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>funny because we always talked about how our lives were

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of opposite because when I met you, I'd kind

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of gone down this deep spiritual pause but had no money,

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and you were in the other boat where you you

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.800
<v Speaker 1>had sustained yourself financially and create a really good stable

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>place for yourself, but you were seeking spiritually, and so

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>we were kind of at right. We had that conversation. Yeah,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and let's talk about that too. But I'm intrigued as

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to how does that a couple of hours or whatever,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that time on your porch.

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, how do you do that for people?

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I think we like the sound of that, but

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>then we get distracted by the next thing.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>What I've come to find and I can speak within

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 2>myself and just what I've seen from other people, but

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 2>what I've seen within myself is that I've learned a

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of lessons from my dad, most of them after

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>his death. And me processing things. My father was the

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 2>way that he was, and he became an alcoholic because

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 2>he had things in his past that he hadn't worked through.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that he hadn't worked through is when

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>he was twelve years old, my father heard a gunshot.

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 2>He walked into the room and his dad had just

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>shot himself in the mouth of the shotgun. And so

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>my dad grew up in rural Tennessee. This is nineteen

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, sixties when this happened. Nineteen seeah, nineteen sixties.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>When this happened, there wasn't a whole lot for him

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to understand it. There weren't podcasts, there weren't books to

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>read like we have nowadays. And so I always consciously

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>knew that what was happening was that he had not

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 2>healed his pain. And Gabormante says, don't ask why the trauma,

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>asked why the pain. And when I first heard Gaborimate,

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, someone's finally saying what

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I always thought with my father. And so you know,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 2>we can look at him and say, oh, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>an alcoholic and he didn't overcome as trauma. The trauma

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the way it came up in my life is I

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<v Speaker 2>became a workaholic, and so I didn't. You know, sometimes

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 2>we could see someone and say, oh, they drink too

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>much alcohol, they do too much drugs, they eat too

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>much food. They and we can say, oh, yeah, that's

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 2>their their addiction. The problem in the hard thing in

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>our society is that my addiction of workaholic is rewarded

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and people look up to it and they're like, you're

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>doing so great, You're making so much money. All of

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>this is so good. And what I came to find

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>is that my workaholism was just basically me trying to

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>not feel my feelings and to not work through and

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>process those things. You know, like scrolling on social media

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>could be that way for somebody. It could be some

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>people are addicted to working out, some people are addicted to,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, watching TV, and there's so many some people

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>addicted to shopping. There's so many different addictions that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I found is that the hardest thing for

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 2>me was to stop and to just not have to.

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 2>I was always trying to fill every single moment of

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<v Speaker 2>my day. I always try to be so busy. When

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have something to do, I'd find something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with my business. Businesses, you can always work all

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<v Speaker 2>day every day. And so what I've tried to do

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and I've built in my business is a lot of

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 2>systems and processes through my VP of Operations has really

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>helped me with this a ton to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take a lot of stuff off my plate so that

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I have more time to just be. It's my personal

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 2>belief that I think that God, the universe, life, whatever

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 2>it is, speaks in silence, and so if I want

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 2>those messages, I need to be silent. What I found

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>for myself is when I would be silent, a lot

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>of anxiety would come up, and I'll you gotta go

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to the next thing. You gotta go the next thing.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>This is stupid, you should be doing something else. And

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>then I just realized that what I was trying to

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>do is achieve to fill a void. But I could

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>sit here and There's been moments where I'll sit on

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 2>my porch and I'll literally just start crying, and I'm like,

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's gratitude. Oh my God, I can't believe I've

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>been given this life. I can't believe I've had these challenges.

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that I've had this come up, but

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful for every single aspect of it. And

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 2>sometimes i just sit there and tear it up and

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know what this is, but this

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>is something my body's releasing, and I need to be

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 2>okay with this releasing process. You know. There's a really

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing that that people could look at. There's two

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 2>videos that are really interesting on YouTube. One of them

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<v Speaker 2>is called polar Bear Trauma, where they show a video

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 2>of a polar there and they shoot it with a

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 2>tranquilizer gun from a helicopter, chase it down the helicopter,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>really heightened experience. They shoot it with a traninkloves a gun,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 2>so it's still awake, but it's not, you know, completely out,

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>and it starts having a convulsion, starts seizuring, and eventually

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>after its seizure is it's what it's doing is it's

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 2>releasing all of the cortisol, all of the adrenaline from

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 2>its body so that there's no trauma that comes with it.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>And so then it goes after it's shaken for a while,

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 2>it takes a really deep breath and it just kind

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 2>of calms down. Almost identical video of a impaula that

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 2>gets attacked by a jaguar, and the jaguar gets scared off,

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 2>it starts to convulse, It takes a deep breath, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it moves it. And we're taught in our lives

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<v Speaker 2>at some point in time not to remove this and

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to work through these traumas and these feelings. I think

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>children naturally do it through like temper tantrums. They move it,

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes as adults we either need to have like

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>an adult temper tantrum in safety where you just take

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a pillow and you can be angry, you could be mad,

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 2>you can just scream, you can cuss, you can smash

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 2>it against the bed, whatever it is in safety by

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>yourself without other people around, so you don't scare as well.

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 2>And then sometimes it's also just like sitting there in

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>silence and realizing that what is coming is going. It's

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>like when you squeeze an orange, what's inside of it

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>orange juice, because that's what's in it. Right when you

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>sit there and you put pressure on yourself or you

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>give yourself space, what's coming out is ask you what's inside,

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and your body's natural intelligence is trying to let go

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 2>of it. And so for me. That's what I found

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>is that there's some moments where I'm just like incredibly grateful,

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 2>or some moments roun by doing nothing, Jay, I get

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>so much anxiety and I'm like, what is this why?

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And instead of running from it, I get curious, and

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I think if we could just get more curious. Like

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I've been reading a whole lot of Christian Murty recently.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I love Christian Murty, and one says. One thing he

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 2>says is don't know yourself because knowing is based in

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the past, and past is based off of memories. Start

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>learning yourself, which is in the present moment. So be

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 2>present and be like, what comes up? How can I

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>be curious about this anxious feeling or these tears or

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, and just be be in the space

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 2>to just know yourself or get to know yourself a

0:43:59.040 --> 0:43:59.720
<v Speaker 2>little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so great.

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean talking about that, that goes to me back

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>to what we were talking about the start of it.

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You were saying, how this idea of well, what if

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the worst thing happens, what if the best thing happens?

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about this idea of Jim Carrey, and

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you were saying that there's this experience of well, I

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>lost who Jim Carrey was. And what we've both talked

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>about is we are so much of what our thoughts are,

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and if if you change the thoughts completely, you're almost

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a completely different humor. Sure, so then who are we?

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Right comes back to this know thyself asus learning thyself? Like,

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>what has that spiritual journey taken you on to understanding identity?

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, God, yeay, that's that. I'm just I am

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 2>just a soul that chose this life. And one of

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>the things that I like to do is I like

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 2>to think that I chose this life in that immediately

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 2>takes me from being a victim in my life. Oh

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>what was me? My father was this way, he did

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 2>this to me, did this to me, and my teachers

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>acted this way versus me going like, I think my

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 2>soul chose this life because this is whatever is needed

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 2>for this path that it's on for, you know, whether

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>it's reincarnation or whether it's heaven or hell or whatever

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 2>it comes after this, I don't know, but I do know,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 2>like right now I do have this life as Rob dile,

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 2>and as I get older, the thing I realized that

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 2>my body changes I'm not as fast as I used

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>to be. I'm a lot more sore than I used

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to be. Like my body's changing, but my soul is

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>this thing that is just always there. And so the

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>thing that I've that I've come to realize is that

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to I don't know if it's going to

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>sound weird, like I want to unattach myself from this body,

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>from everything around me, and I want to try to

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>connect back to what's internally inside of me. And the

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I find is that that never changes,

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>like that there's like a truth that's behind that, and

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 2>truth is a thing that never changes. If something changes,

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 2>or if something could be questioned, it's not true. But

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 2>there's this feeling that feels like truth inside of me

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 2>at least. And everybody has their own truth, but for me,

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>my truth is there's something that's behind all of it.

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 2>And the more that I connect to it, the more

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 2>peace that I have. Like I listen to a lot

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 2>of Ramdas, and one of the things that he said

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I was listening to him on the drive over here

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and I listen to his meditation every day is the

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 2>only work that you have to do is the connection

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>to your own heart, and so I'm always constantly thinking

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 2>what's in the way of my own heart, what material possessions,

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 2>what things that I want to get her in the

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 2>way of that. And the reason why I think that

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 2>it helps is number one. I've had so much more

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>peace from trying to connect to that. And my relationship

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>with my wife has been so much better because of it.

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm not blocking her from letting her in, she's

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 2>experiencing me fully, she starts to be able to open

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 2>up even more in different ways, I'd be able to

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 2>experience her more fully. And so for me, it's just

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 2>like connecting to the thing that's behind it that feels

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>like the only thing that's true. Now. Mind you, if

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Rob fifteen years ago had heard this, he would be like,

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 2>what the hell is that guy talking about? It would

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>make no sense. But on this journey, I've just kind

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 2>of realized that there's something behind it all, and I

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 2>want to try to connect to that something behind it

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 2>all and see what it is. And so for me,

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like I like to use myself as a guinea pig.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Everything I teach in the Mindset Mentor and the podcast

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>is all stuff that I'm trying within myself, and I

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 2>use it as almost my own therapy sessions where I'm

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.280
<v Speaker 2>talking to everybody, but I'm talking to myself. I'm reminding

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 2>myself of all these things. And what I realized is

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I realized that after fifteen nineteen years of personal development,

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, personal development's like this cup right here,

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like my cup in person ELM was overflowing.

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 2>And then I found spiritual development and I realized, oh

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 2>my god, it's a lot bigger cub and it's not

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>even close to being full, Like it's a bucket and

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 2>it needs It's my next thing that I'm working on.

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.479
<v Speaker 2>So for me, it's like the mindset, the working through,

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 2>like I'm constantly working on those and trying to get better.

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 2>But for me, it's like I want to connect to

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>myself and see what else is in there.

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, thank you for sharing that.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you made me remember a CS Lewis statement

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>that says you don't have a soul, you are the

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.760
<v Speaker 1>soul and you have a body. Yeah, And I remember

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>I used to have that written on a little post

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it note and I used to just look at it

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>every day first thing in the morning because I was

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this concept of identity that the first thing

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of us do when we wake up,

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>first thing in the morning is we look in the mirror.

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Usually we say.

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Something like, oh I look tired or don't like that spot,

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>or God, I put on way.

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 3>God, whatever it is.

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Right now, all of a sudden, we're already in the

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>bodily concept of life, this bodily consciousness, and now you

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>live your whole day thinking about the body. Whereas the

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>body need the body needs food, et cetera, and so

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's natural, Like, that's not unnatural, that's normal.

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I do that too.

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.359
<v Speaker 1>But then you're saying that at the same time, you've

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>got a nurture and nourish and connect with this deeper sense.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>How do you balance the two in a real world

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>where you have responsibilities, you have bills, you have things

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to do that are connected to the body. But then

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, we're like, but you're not this body,

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>So how do you balance how do you make sense

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of these two seemingly opposite pursuits.

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm the thing that that I think

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I would have thought five or ten years ago, was

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 2>that the more that I get into spiritual goverment. The

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>less motivated I'll become with the most the less I

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 2>will want to achieve. That hasn't gone away any sort

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 2>of way. But what I have found is that I

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 2>achieve through a place of it's more like I'm not

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 2>white knuckling my way through life anymore. I'm not I

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 2>can take action and not be so wrapped up in

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>my fears and my limiting beliefs, and so it's not

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in the world and of the world at

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the same time, where it's like the soul is here

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 2>and I get as I'm speaking to everything that I say.

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Is also something that I struggle with every single day.

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I have not met for this process. There'll be times

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 2>where I find myself just so in the world and

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like stress, there's things happening. There's this business

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>where there's all of this. You know, we've got employees,

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>we're hiring people, there's stuff happening. And then I just

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 2>take a step back and I'm like, it's just it's

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 2>just like a kind of like a game, like take

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 2>a second, like that's it's all real. I'm not saying

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>that's it's not true. It's not reality. It's not in

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 2>front of you, it's all there. But behind it all,

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 2>if I can connect to like a deeper sense that's

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 2>within me and in the soul that I feel is

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 2>in there, I'm like, hey, man, chill out for a second.

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Like it's really not that big of a deal, right,

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 2>most things you know, there are There are definitely some

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:41.720
<v Speaker 2>things that are big deals in people's lives, and there's deaths,

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 2>and there's there's things that people have to you know,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>be in control of and be able to pay bills

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. All those are real and they're

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>definitely necessary. But behind it all, you're still there, and

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 2>there's this thing that if I can take myself back

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and kind of like out of my own head and

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of into my heart, which has been a big

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 2>journey for me because I was I'm so analytical and

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 2>was never really taught like feelings and how to feel

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 2>and process emotions. But if I can take myself out

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 2>of my head and into my heart, what I've always

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 2>found is that my head is always projecting itself into

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the future or sometimes projecting itself into the past. But

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 2>most for me, like if I said, owt to meditate,

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's like all of my to do list, all

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 2>of the things that I have to do, and it's

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.919
<v Speaker 2>projecting itself into the future. So my brain is always

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. My body it's always here. And so when

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I know as myself gets stressed, I knowice myself get anxious,

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I notice myself whatever feelings I might be feeling. If

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I can take a couple of deep breaths and kind

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of get back into my body, I'm like, it's not

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 2>that bad. Like you'll fit you. You have overcome so

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 2>many things in your life. You'll figure out a way

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to get through it. And so what I've found is

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that it's not that I don't take the action. It's

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 2>not that I'm not wanting to achieve more and more

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:53.399
<v Speaker 2>things and be able to have more fun and more

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 2>do all of this stuff in the external world. But

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 2>when I find myself kind of take a step back

0:51:57.920 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and kind of be in my heart is it may

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 2>makes it a lot easier. I'm not like white knuckling

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.439
<v Speaker 2>and forcing my way through life. It's almost like I'm

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 2>allowing life to happen through me. And I don't know

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.439
<v Speaker 2>how it works, and I don't pretend to be smart enough,

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 2>but things start happening around me that helped me in

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the process of getting to wherever it is that I

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 2>actually want to truly go.

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's there's this really interesting thing in Eastern traditions.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 1>There's obviously this idea of oneness and that everything's one,

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and then there's this idea of duality, that there's this

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:37.359
<v Speaker 1>side and then there's this side. And one teaching that

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I've really connected with is this idea of simultaneously one

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and different, and it sounds complex, but it's actually not.

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 1>It's this idea that this feels real and it can

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:52.399
<v Speaker 1>be real, and it is real, and at the same

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>time there is a greater reality. So rather than this

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>feeling of everything's one, everything's the same, or it's disconnected,

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 1>there's real and fake, it's actually this idea that a

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of things are real, but they're not the full picture.

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>So the idea that today in La it's like saying

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the weather is rainy and cloudy, but that's not the

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 1>weather everywhere. So it's my current reality, but it's not

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>reality across the whole world. And when you start looking

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>at life in that way of there's this reality and

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 1>then there's this bigger reality, I think that's that. Zoom out,

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that, Let me take a breath, that's that. Let

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>me look at the inner world as well. And I

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 1>think what it does is it gives you a certain grace,

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and it gives you a certain detachment disconnection, but also

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 1>way recognition of the significance of what you do and

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the insignificance.

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Of both are so needed.

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I believe what I do is significant, and at

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's totally insignificant.

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 3>You won't.

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 2>We won't be remembered in a thousand years.

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 3>And it's so okay, but we take it so seriously.

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And if you only do one or the other, Like

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>if I only see my life as extremely significant, everything's

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>too high pressure. Oh my gosh, I would it would

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 1>hurt me and it would cause me pain if I

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 1>thought everything I did was of utmost significant and if

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought my life was insignificant. If I thought my

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>life was irrelevant, that would be really bad for my

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.720
<v Speaker 1>self esteem. I do anything, I won't be able to function.

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I think it's really interesting because the more

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:19.919
<v Speaker 1>and more I'm learning, I'm like, I have to learn

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.280
<v Speaker 1>how to hold these two seemingly opposite things, but actually

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they're so connected and symbiotic, and they're so synchronous because

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>they both have value. Going back to which thought has value,

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the collective thought of my life is significant and insignificant

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is the most helpful thought, because thinking I'm significant and

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>insigniant were both unhelpful thoughts.

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you actually just summarize perfectly what I

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:47.879
<v Speaker 2>feel like actually has been going through my head for years,

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 2>which is what I do. I do believe is so important,

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 2>and at the same time, I'm like, none of it matters, right,

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:59.839
<v Speaker 2>It's this weird duality free but it's so fering because

0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it it takes so much pressure off where it just

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 2>becomes like fun, Like it's how can I bring more

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 2>fun into life? Like when did we lose the joy

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>of life and the fun of life that we had

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 2>as children? When was it programmed out of us? And

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 2>how can I connect to that child and bring that

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:17.759
<v Speaker 2>spirit back in and be like, yeah, I'm going to

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>do some amazing things in the world, but without it

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>being stressful, with just with it being fun and with

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 2>it being something that I can do in it and

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>it effortlessly flows out of me, Like I believe that

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 2>every single person is incredibly creative and we are creators

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 2>at the actual core of us, and a lot of

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 2>us have lost it, and I lost it for years,

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 2>and so what I think is, how can I make

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 2>the creativity flow out of me in some sort of

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 2>way and just allow the space for it to happen.

0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.239
<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that happens, and it's not

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>necessarily my goal of it, but when I sit in silence,

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I get ideas that come through and I'm like, oh man,

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I didn't see this, And that's

0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 2>where they all are. So it's like a lot of

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:00.839
<v Speaker 2>times we're trying to force things that happen. We're trying

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>to force creative You're trying to force ideas. But sometimes

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 2>when I get there, I'm like, oh man, yeah, this

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:07.880
<v Speaker 2>is the thing I've been searching for. And it's just

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I think every person just needs to give themselves just

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more space to not be on their phone,

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 2>to not be constantly, you know, And a lot of

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 2>people have children and their children are up. Can you

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 2>wake up a little bit earlier and not be on

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 2>your phone and just sit in silence and see what

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 2>comes up? And I think that it's really important for

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>people because what you'll notice is exactly what you're saying,

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 2>which is what we do. Like this life is so important,

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 2>but it is very insignificant, and that's okay, there's nothing

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 2>wrong with that. Like I've I love watching videos on

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 2>YouTube about how small the Earth is compared to the

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 2>rest of the universe, and it stresses my wife out.

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'm gonna have a panic attacker. Why do

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you watch this because I like to remind myself that

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 2>even though it's all happening and I'm in it, none

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 2>of it actually truly matters.

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's okay.

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I think when I'm listening to you, there's

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this feeling that, you know, I feel like I agree

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think everyone is a creator. I do

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 1>believe that creativity flows when we connect with that, but

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes we feel so distracted from it, and

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 1>it's so much easier to pull out our phone. It's

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>so much easier to put on a show in the background,

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so much easier to do all of these it's

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>so much easier to do all those things at the

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>same time. Like now we're no longer ever with one person.

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 1>We're with one person, we're both on our phones, and

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 1>we're watching a show at the same time, and we've

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>got our laptops doing work. So you've literally got three

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>screens in front of you, five screens in total. And

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>there's so much distraction, right we know that, How does

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a person possibly And I say this out of like

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>compassion and empathy because it's like it requires so much

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>from us because everything around us is built for distraction.

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>The foods we're eating, the things we drink and consume,

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's created around us, it's all to distract.

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 1>So you're fighting like almost what feels to a lot

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of people like a losing battle.

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 3>What do you do to get pick yourself back?

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's more? What's more important than that? You know, Like,

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 2>what's more important than connecting to your true self? To

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 2>working on yourself? Like I why do I like, why

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 2>am I so hardcore in mindset? Because I know how

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 2>many people are so wrapped up in in their mindset

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and their thoughts and their beliefs and their patterns that

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 2>they're stuck in. And what ultimately we all want, I

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 2>think is freedom. And the way to get through to

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>that freedom is to work on yourself, whatever that looks

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>like for whatever stage someone is in you know, and

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I can have empathy for every person at every stage

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 2>because I've been through so many stages of my process,

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and I think that it comes back to like why

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 2>are you doing it? What do you want? If you're

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to disconnect from your phone? Why you know? Like

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 2>for me, like I recently deleted Instagram from my phone.

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I did it last year for a month fell like,

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:54.240
<v Speaker 2>go was amazing. The book came out and I was like,

0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get back on. I got to promote, I

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 2>got to make sure things are good. I recently just

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 2>deleted it again. And now everything that I post, everything

0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 2>flows through my team, So it's not like it's just gone,

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just now I just happened to flow. Everything flows

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 2>through my team. Why did I do that, though, was

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to live my life on that phone.

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 2>And that one thing that I noticed is that Instagram

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 2>was one of the things where I would pick it

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>up and I would just somehow get to it, and

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even thinking about getting to it, and I

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.439
<v Speaker 2>was like, my life is not this little tiny thing.

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 2>My life is everything that's out here, and so why

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 2>do I want to get Why did I delete it

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>was because I actually want to be in everything. I

0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 2>want to be present with my wife when we have children.

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to be present with our children. I want

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>to be the most present version of myself as I

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 2>possibly can. And I can't imagine that I'll get to

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:47.240
<v Speaker 2>the end of my life, be one hundred years old

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and be like I wish I would have spent more

0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 2>time on Instagram. I wish I would spend more time

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 2>watching Netflix, you know, and I've I've been addicted to

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 2>all of those things. I'm not, you know, above any

0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff. But I started looking at my off

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and saying like, is this helping me get to where

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to be in life? Is it creating more

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 2>peace in my life? For me, it was creating way

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 2>more stress. To was perpetuating these feelings that I'm trying

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to let go of, trying to work with. And so

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:12.480
<v Speaker 2>for me, I think what's important to people is like,

1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:14.720
<v Speaker 2>if you want to make a change, why do you

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>want to make the change? And for me, looking at

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:21.479
<v Speaker 2>a screen is not as important as actually physically being

1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 2>in front of my wife and giving her what she

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<v Speaker 2>actually truly deserves. It's just one hundred percent of my

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<v Speaker 2>attention because there's been times where I've not given her

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of my attention. And as we start

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<v Speaker 2>to have kids and stuff, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a distracted parent. I want to be with them. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>never sit there and go, well, when my kids were kids,

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<v Speaker 2>my kids were children, like I wish I would have

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<v Speaker 2>spent more time on Instagram. I wlush to spend more

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<v Speaker 2>time watching Netflix. I just think if for me, like

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<v Speaker 2>the level of the place I met in my life is,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be as present as possible. Because I've

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<v Speaker 2>worked for things that I've climbed ladders, I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>different places. I've realized none of those things fulfilled me

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of way. And this journey I've been on

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<v Speaker 2>in the pasta you know, ten years, seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and we started talking about the bag, about Gita, and

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<v Speaker 2>I started meditating a whole lot more and getting into is.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized, oh, these things are bringing me peace. And

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<v Speaker 2>the more peaceful I feel, the more that it becomes

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<v Speaker 2>easy to actually achieve and create the stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>want to in life. And so for me, the presence

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<v Speaker 2>in the piece at this point in my life, things

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<v Speaker 2>might change. I don't know what it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in five years are actually things that are the most

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<v Speaker 2>important to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we feel like being anxious and being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like busy and stuff will actually create the

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<v Speaker 1>most effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you just said, this idea of if you

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<v Speaker 1>start from a place of peace, and I think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with that. If you walk into something

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<v Speaker 1>with stillness, it gives you clarity, gives you perspective. You

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<v Speaker 1>can zoom out, you can zoom in. If you're buzzing

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<v Speaker 1>around and moving around, you lose all of that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all blurry and fuzzy. And I want to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's a lesson you wish you learned earlier in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's that what you're searching for externally, you're

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<v Speaker 2>actually searching for yourself. I think that's become very apparent

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<v Speaker 2>to me in the past few years is I was

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<v Speaker 2>always looking for somebody to give me love, somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>give me acceptance to achieve so that I could be accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I actually truly think is what I was

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<v Speaker 2>searching for from everyone else is what I was searching

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<v Speaker 2>for for myself. So a lot of people that are

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people I know are people pleasers.

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<v Speaker 2>They come to me Rob, I'm a people pleaser, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they'll change themselves to try to get love

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<v Speaker 2>and acceptance from somebody else. But that's just feeling a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like a hungry ghost. It just continue.

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<v Speaker 2>The food just goes through the ghosts, it doesn't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And what we're actually searching for is what we're searching

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<v Speaker 2>that love and acceptance for our self. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest things that I think I've learned in probably

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<v Speaker 2>the past two years is I was always trying to

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<v Speaker 2>grow and change myself because there were aspects of myself

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't like and I resented. And what I've

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<v Speaker 2>changed it to in the past couple of years is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to love every aspect of myself. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>some parts of Rob that are beautiful, that are amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>that love people, that want to connect. There's some great

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<v Speaker 2>parts of Rob. There's some parts of Rob also that

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<v Speaker 2>are very selfish, that are very judgmental, that are a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit short, not as present as he should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of trying to change those and hate those, I've

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<v Speaker 2>actually just tried to love them and realized that the

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<v Speaker 2>selfish rob that exists was some sort of thing that

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<v Speaker 2>was a part of past conditioning that came up from

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<v Speaker 2>needing to be selfish as a child for whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>might have been, whatever reasons it might have been, And

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<v Speaker 2>I can love that side. I mean, what I realized

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<v Speaker 2>is that if I try to change it, it gets stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>If I love it and I accept it, it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of chills out and it doesn't disappear like I'm not like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>these parts me don't exist. It's me looking like Internal

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<v Speaker 2>family systems is a therapy where you look at all

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<v Speaker 2>parts of you and who you are, and you try

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out a way to understand how the entire

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<v Speaker 2>orchestra works together. You know, when I was writing my book,

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there and I was going so hardcore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you and I come from the world of creating

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<v Speaker 2>viral videos. I would spend so much time on every

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<v Speaker 2>single line to make sure it was perfect right, because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to make sure, like I've only got thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds or a minute to get the message to be

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<v Speaker 2>as clear and concise as possible. Let me try to

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<v Speaker 2>make as perfect as possible. And I used to do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of poetry. I used to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of songwriting when I was younger, so I was used

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<v Speaker 2>to making every line as potent as I could. As

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<v Speaker 2>I was writing this book, I was like sixteen rounds

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<v Speaker 2>of edits in editing every single piece of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a part of me that said it said why

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing this? Like? Why are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I want to write a book

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<v Speaker 2>that helps people and changes people's lives. I want someone

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<v Speaker 2>to not know what the mindset mentor podcasts, but they

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<v Speaker 2>walk into Barnes and Noble acs book and they're like, interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>let me read it, let me pick it up, and

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<v Speaker 2>they read it and it changes their life life. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I've played Devil's advocate. I said, but you also

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be successful, don't you. You also want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be a New York Times bestseller, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can have a little badge to put on yourself and say,

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times bestseller. You want it to be this

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly selling thing because you know, if it takes off,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna make great money for a very long time

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a perennial seller. And I thought to myself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>can I use that ego e side of me to

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<v Speaker 2>actually help me create a better book, and I could.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what I realized is instead of hating that aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a tool on my tool belt. When I

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<v Speaker 2>need to bring that side of me out, I can

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<v Speaker 2>bring out that side of me out and say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm going to create the best freaking book

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<v Speaker 2>that I can of, the best podcast that I can are,

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<v Speaker 2>the best real that I can to try to impact people.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's not about like trying to force change

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<v Speaker 2>on myself. It's about loving every aspect of myself the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote good and bad. Eventhough there is no good

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<v Speaker 2>or bad but every aspect of Rob. And if I

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<v Speaker 2>need to use it, I can bring it up and say, hey, Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>I need this version of you right now. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to fight it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In the monastery, we'd always talk about how the word

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<v Speaker 1>is an arthur, which means unwanted. Thing that seems unwanted

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<v Speaker 1>actually needs to be engaged, Like you need to engage

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<v Speaker 1>it in the service of doing something higher really for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be purified. It's like you can't just cut

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<v Speaker 1>it out. You can't just get rid of it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just hate it to go away. You can't just

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<v Speaker 1>shame it away. You can't just guilty away. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be engaged in a higher service IY impacting others,

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<v Speaker 1>helping others, improving your own life, improving the lives of others.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when it's engaged, then it becomes purified. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you just ignore it, it would just stay there, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you try and push it away, it's gonna push

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<v Speaker 1>back and just get it. But if you engage and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I do have that in me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use that tendency to try and help

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<v Speaker 1>this person do this. That's the only way that it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to be purified. And so that resonates very strongly.

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<v Speaker 3>Great answer.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one I wanted to ask you was what's

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson you have to learn the hard way?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one that's been the most potent for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time is you can't do it all on

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<v Speaker 2>your own. For me, I don't think I was able

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<v Speaker 2>to trust people for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a therapist one time and he had said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been you've been neglected, and I was like, Noah,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been neglected like I had food, water, sheltered clothing,

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<v Speaker 2>all these things. And he's like, no, you were emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>neglected from your father, and and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I that really like ringed true. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened was I had developed this feeling over my lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>of I've got to do it alone. I can't trust anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>No one else can do it for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there were times when my dad would even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was and he was an amazing person, I always

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<v Speaker 2>tell people like I was, I'm so grateful that I

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<v Speaker 2>had the father that I had. He was. He never

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<v Speaker 2>beat me, he never yelled at me, he never touched

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<v Speaker 2>me in appropriately. He would just get drunk and fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he fell asleep, he'd forget about me in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different ways. Right, So there was that

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<v Speaker 2>neglect of like I might he would say, Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come pick you up and we're going to go fishing,

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<v Speaker 2>because I lived in Florida, and I, you know, would

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<v Speaker 2>sit on the front porch for an hour or two

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<v Speaker 2>hours in my fishing pole and he would just never

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<v Speaker 2>show up, right, And so were there were aspects of that,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think somewhere along the line, I developed this

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of like, no one's gonna help me. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it all on my own. Which there's a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of that which there is some truth, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>I do have to sometimes step forward and be the

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<v Speaker 2>person to do it. But for the longest time, I

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<v Speaker 2>never understood the phrase no man is an island because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I have done everything by myself. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I started looking around me and I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. The universe has always been there giving me

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I need in every person to help me

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<v Speaker 2>in some sort of way and prove and get better.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, as everything's grown, the podcast has grown,

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<v Speaker 2>my company has grown, all this stuff. We have thirty

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<v Speaker 2>people on the team. Like I can't do it on

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<v Speaker 2>my own. I can't help people on my own the

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<v Speaker 2>way that I wish that I could if i've I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not thirty people. I don't have thirty days. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that they can get done and we can get done

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<v Speaker 2>in one day that I could get done in an

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<v Speaker 2>entire month. And so what's been big for me is

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<v Speaker 2>is trusting people to be able to help me and

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to ask for help, whether that be

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<v Speaker 2>in a business, but also like go into my life

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, I'm really struggling right now. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you just talk to me for a few minutes, And

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that she doesn't think like, oh, he's not man enough,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you know, fear that I had, like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if I go to her with my problem, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like he's not man enough. But for her to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, yeah, let me hold space for you, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk it out. And so I think the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me is like, is learning that I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>it all on my own. It's okay to it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>strength to ask for help. It's strong to ask for help,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I need to be better at at asking

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<v Speaker 2>for help when I do need it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great one. That's a great one I can

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<v Speaker 3>relate to in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it strikes a chord for sure, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think so many of us, you know, both of those questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's taken, what's the lesson you learned the

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<v Speaker 1>hard way? And what's the lesson you wish you learned earlier? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and write them down because you might forget it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of fold back in that cycle often

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<v Speaker 1>Rob we end every on purpose episode with.

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<v Speaker 3>A final five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, these questions have to be answered in one word

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<v Speaker 1>to one sentence maximum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, okay, and so I'm so wordy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's I'll do my best, Rob DIZI your final five.

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<v Speaker 1>The first question is what is the best advice you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard or received.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you the I'll give you the sentence and

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<v Speaker 2>if you want me to explain it, I can. But

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<v Speaker 2>everything is your fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is your fault comes back to like you or

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO of your life. My very first mentor that

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<v Speaker 2>I had. I paid five hundred dollars a month to

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<v Speaker 2>have my first coach when I was nineteen, about to

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<v Speaker 2>turn twenty, and we worked together for two years and

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<v Speaker 2>we had some great calls. I don't remember any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one and what it was was I had

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<v Speaker 2>made so many excuses as too while I was late

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<v Speaker 2>to calls why I didn't hit my assignment, so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do what I needed to do. And he had

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<v Speaker 2>this really tough conversation. I mean, he said, Rob, if

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<v Speaker 2>a business succeeds, whose fault is it? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you mean. He's like, if a

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<v Speaker 2>business succeeds, all one thousand employees move into the direction

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<v Speaker 2>they have a successful year, who's faults it that the

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<v Speaker 2>person who orchestra it. I was like the CEO. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>if a business fails, whose faults it? And it's the CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, Rob, if you get to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>your life and it's not what you wanted it to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and you didn't create the life that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>make the money she wanted to have, the success, the love,

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<v Speaker 2>the happiness, travel the places that you wanted to, whose

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<v Speaker 2>fault would it be? And I said it'd be my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, if you did create the life that

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to you had to love, the happiness, the abundance,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that you wanted, whose fault would that be? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said it would be my fault. And he said

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<v Speaker 2>the problem with you is you're treating this treating this

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<v Speaker 2>life as you if you're the victim. And what you

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<v Speaker 2>need to realize that everything that happens to you is

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<v Speaker 2>your fault and that your life won't change until you

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<v Speaker 2>decide that you want to be the CEO of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know how that would have felt when you

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<v Speaker 1>heard it at that point hurt. Yeah, exactly with that mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of people today would find

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<v Speaker 1>that offensive. They might get hurt by it. They might

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<v Speaker 1>what how did you transfer that energy to be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually helpful, it's not hurtful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I was a little bit hurt, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's I felt truth. I felt like, yeah, he's right,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I look at the path of where my

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<v Speaker 2>life was going to go, had I continued to blame

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, it wasn't going to be good. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at people who I knew who took full

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<v Speaker 2>ownership of their life. One of my probably my first

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<v Speaker 2>mentor without even being on purpose, was my uncle Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>who was an incredibly successful guy, had a bunch of success,

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<v Speaker 2>but also is incredibly giving, always so loving, and he

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<v Speaker 2>never blamed anybody else. For when his business failed and

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<v Speaker 2>he brought it back from nothing and rebuilt it, he

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<v Speaker 2>never blamed anybody else. He was always there for everyone else,

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<v Speaker 2>but he always took everything as his responsibility. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, not everything that's happened to you in your

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<v Speaker 2>life is your fault, but whatever it is that you

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<v Speaker 2>have it is your responsibility to work through. Will Smith

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<v Speaker 2>also said this right where it's like, it's not my

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<v Speaker 2>fault that my father was an alcoholic, but it's my

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility to do with what do with it because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the reality that I have and I have to work

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<v Speaker 2>through those things. And so for me it was like

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<v Speaker 2>it rang really true where I was. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's right, and if my life is going to change,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be the person to change it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it clicked for me. That conversation, I could say,

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely on the one conversation that changed my life completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Second question, what is the worst advice you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>or received?

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<v Speaker 2>Fit in with everybody else?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? Question number three? What is your most repeated though.

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<v Speaker 2>As of recently is I'm proud of you. I try

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<v Speaker 2>to tell myself that every single day. My mom told

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<v Speaker 2>me that a lot as a kid. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>repeat it to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number four the number one habit that changes your life,

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<v Speaker 1>like a daily habit, like something that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Practice, meditation and breathwork, finding space for myself?

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<v Speaker 3>Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Final question if you could create one law that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the world had to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>What would it be take you.

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<v Speaker 2>There one law that everybody in the world has to follow,

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<v Speaker 2>to take five minutes every single day to practice self awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that every problem in this world could be

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<v Speaker 2>solved if people were more self aware. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>all of our problems come from lack of self awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>And if people were more aware of our actions. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if politicians are more aware of their actions and how

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<v Speaker 2>it's affecting the entire world. And if parents were aware

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<v Speaker 2>of how their actions are affecting their children and as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a son, if I'm aware of how my

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<v Speaker 2>actions are affecting my mom, my sister, my wife, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>around me. If we could take five minutes to practice

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<v Speaker 2>being more self aware, I think that the entire world

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<v Speaker 2>would be better.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that Rob Doll everyone. The book is called

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<v Speaker 1>Level Up How to Get focused, procrastinating and Upgrade your Life.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have a copy, go and grab it already.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be able to see my testimonial on the back

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at the top of the back there. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you go and grab a copy and tag me

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<v Speaker 1>and Rob on Instagram, on x on TikTok with what

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<v Speaker 1>resonated with you, what connected with you. I love seeing

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<v Speaker 1>and I want Rob to see as well, what you're practicing,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to put into action in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait for you to level up.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you again, Thank you man for coming on and

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<v Speaker 1>opening your heart and being so vulnerable and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time giving so many practical insights of how people

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<v Speaker 1>can move from where they are to where they really

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<v Speaker 1>want to be and even deeper.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Thank thank you Jay, like I've known you for

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<v Speaker 2>seven years now and your inspiration for like doing good

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, and I can see that the actions

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<v Speaker 2>that you take are from your heart and from a

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<v Speaker 2>place of purpose, and it's inspiring from you to always

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<v Speaker 2>see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, man. I appreciate you, of course. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love this episode, you'll love my interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Gabor Matte on understanding your trauma and how to

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<v Speaker 1>heal emotional wounds to start moving on from the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything in nature grows only where it's vulnerable. So a

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<v Speaker 3>tree doesn't grow where it's hard and thick, does it.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes where it's soft and green and vulnerable.