WEBVTT - Eureka! Archimedes!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and

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<v Speaker 1>is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. One is a genius, the

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<v Speaker 1>others insane. To prove their mousey worth, they'll overthrow the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a particularly nice one. Thank you. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were gonna say one is the loneliest number, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say, what does that have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with our podcast? Now? We're going to talk about a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are going to concentrate on a genius, mathematical

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<v Speaker 1>genius and inventor, one of the one of the greats. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are. And in the past we have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>many fascinating people in tech, uh, most of whom lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty one centuries. Today we're going back a

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<v Speaker 1>bit farther, Yeah, to the point of of two seven

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<v Speaker 1>b C would be the the year that this fellow

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<v Speaker 1>was born. And we are talking about Archimedes. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>developer of the T R S A D. I'm kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>he's definitely a precursor to that. Um. Yes, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking Texas instruments, we're talking Greek ones. So Archimedes was

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<v Speaker 1>a mathematician, he was an astronomer, he was an engineer

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<v Speaker 1>and inventor. Very clever fellow, I guess that would probably

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<v Speaker 1>an understatement. Oh, yes, one of the fathers of calculus.

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<v Speaker 1>Not not the calculus that we used today, but precursor again. Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about it a lot in in the past

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<v Speaker 1>two We've talked about the principle of simultaneous discovery, where

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<v Speaker 1>people more than one person comes up with the same idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also talked about how people to have discoveries build

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<v Speaker 1>on other people's work. And Archimedes was definitely a founder

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<v Speaker 1>of many, many of our technologies. Yeah, you would call

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<v Speaker 1>him the father of integral calculus. Not not the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as Newtonian calculus um, which is of course much

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<v Speaker 1>later on. So and and Chris has already made mention

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the famous quotes attributed to Archimedes, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a place to stand, and I will move

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<v Speaker 1>the earth and it sounds like something that a megalomaniacal

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<v Speaker 1>supervillain would say. But in this case, Archimedes is talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the discoveries he made and what we would call

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<v Speaker 1>basic mechanical structures now, things like pulleys and levers. In

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<v Speaker 1>that case, we're talking specifically about leavers. But our Coimedes

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<v Speaker 1>really was interested in the relationship of pulleys leavers and

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<v Speaker 1>how they could be used to do work, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>he spent quite a bit of time perfecting that, so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that there are certain inventions that are are

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<v Speaker 1>associated with him that are related in some form to

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<v Speaker 1>simple machines, although not all of those inventions are necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>straight from uh, from archimedes brain. But we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about some of the things that he

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<v Speaker 1>did do, and then some of the things that are

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<v Speaker 1>attributed to him that perhaps he did not do or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps just didn't work. There's one in particular that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>famous due to a MythBusters episode that we'll get to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorites, actually, Now, Archimedes. Archimedes his

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<v Speaker 1>dad was an astronomer, so he was growing up, he

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<v Speaker 1>was exposed to the sciences. Um, he was probably taught

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<v Speaker 1>by followers of Euclid, and uh he was. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what we know of him is mostly from stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>was written well after his death, and because of that

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be completely certain about the details of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's still some confusion about exactly when he died.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sometime around two hundred twelve or two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eleven b C. He was born in two eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>b C. Remember we count backwards right, probably confuse the

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<v Speaker 1>heck out of them at the time. What are we

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<v Speaker 1>coming down to? So, yeah, so and so he died

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<v Speaker 1>around two twelve to eleven b C. And you might ask, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how did Archimedes die? How did Archimedes die violently? Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it was during a sacking of Syracuse, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>was archimedes home. He lived in Syracuse, in Sicily and

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<v Speaker 1>at the time it was an independent Greek city state.

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<v Speaker 1>Before it it was, you know, physically uprooted and moved

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<v Speaker 1>to New York. Yes, no, yes, not how exactly what happened? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the original original Syracuse. So so in the Romans were

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<v Speaker 1>in a war with It was a Roman Carthin Carthaginian war,

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<v Speaker 1>says Carthage, and Rome are in a war with each

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<v Speaker 1>other in Syracuse got pulled into the middle of that,

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<v Speaker 1>despite attempts to kind of sort of not do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but various rulers of Syracuse ended up siding with either

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<v Speaker 1>Home or Carthage during the the the whole conflict, and

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<v Speaker 1>at one point in the war, Rome besieged Syracuse and

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<v Speaker 1>during the attack a Roman soldier came upon Archimedes, and

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<v Speaker 1>although there were specific orders to spare the life of Archimedes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Roman soldier killed him, apparently not knowing the identity

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<v Speaker 1>of the man he put to the sword. So Archimedes

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<v Speaker 1>was He was valued by both sides. He was recognized

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<v Speaker 1>as a genius, and neither side wanted this genius to

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<v Speaker 1>be destroyed. But as an unfortunate side effective war, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>accidents happened. Now why was why did people consider him

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<v Speaker 1>a genius? Well, one was that he was making incredible

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<v Speaker 1>contributions to mathematics. He had found really interesting relationships between

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<v Speaker 1>things like the volume of the sphere and the surface

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<v Speaker 1>area of cylinders, and found out interesting ways to to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of explain those relationships, including a very close approximation

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<v Speaker 1>of pie um. Bye, we've lost him, haven't had breakfast? Yet. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was definitely valued for his intelligence, but beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>he also was this great inventor. In fact, during the war,

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<v Speaker 1>during the siege on Syracuse, he came up with an

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<v Speaker 1>invention known as the iron hand that played a big

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<v Speaker 1>part in the defense of the city. Did you come

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<v Speaker 1>across the iron hand? Actually I did not come across

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<v Speaker 1>the iron hand. This is different from the iron fist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the one is used for defense. The other

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<v Speaker 1>one you rule with that. It was also sometimes called

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<v Speaker 1>Archimedes claw. Um, it's a it's a brilliant, brilliant defense

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism for that time. It would not work today. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's what here's what it was. So Syracuse was um,

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<v Speaker 1>right up against the ocean. Like essentially there was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a slight cliff and then you had a city wall

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<v Speaker 1>that that was I think twenty seven kilometers long back

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<v Speaker 1>when it stood. It doesn't stand anymore, um, but it

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<v Speaker 1>you know, then you it was essentially right up against

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean. So one of the possible avenues of attack

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<v Speaker 1>was an attack by sea, which is what one of

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<v Speaker 1>the venues that Rome was interested in. So, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>leader of Syracuse came to our communes and said, I

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<v Speaker 1>need a way to protect us while from these attacks

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<v Speaker 1>from the from the ocean. So what our communes came

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<v Speaker 1>up with was an enormous lever that you would mount

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<v Speaker 1>on the sides of the city walls. Are actually on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the city walls. So you have this

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<v Speaker 1>huge lever that that extends out over the ocean. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>from the end of the lever, you have a rope

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<v Speaker 1>that drops down, and on the end of the rope

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<v Speaker 1>is a grappling hook. Now on the other end, the

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<v Speaker 1>short end of the lever, you put huge lead weights

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<v Speaker 1>and you first put them near the pivot point so

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<v Speaker 1>that the weight of the long part of the lever

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<v Speaker 1>keeps it level. All right, What you try to do

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<v Speaker 1>is you try and catch the bow of a ship,

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<v Speaker 1>a Roman ship with that grappling hook. Once you do,

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<v Speaker 1>you slide those weights back from the the fulcrum there

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<v Speaker 1>to the very end of the short arm of the lever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that weight is enough to push that end of

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<v Speaker 1>the lever down, meaning the long arm of the lever

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<v Speaker 1>goes up. That's the arm that, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the rope and the grappling hook. So you

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<v Speaker 1>literally pull the end of the Roman ship out of

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<v Speaker 1>the water. You then use the lever to shake the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman ship and eventually the grappling hook breaks off of it,

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<v Speaker 1>making the Roman ship fall again, either smashing against the

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<v Speaker 1>water or the rocks on the base of the cliffs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's brilliant, but extremely complicated. It seems like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>to build the lever. Yeah, however, was incredibly effective. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so effective that Rome abandoned their sea based attacks. They

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<v Speaker 1>instead of instead of attacking Syracuse by see, what they

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<v Speaker 1>did was they set up a blockade further out in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean where they're not going to get hit by

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<v Speaker 1>a grappling hook from the shore, and then they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up attacking by land and eventually sacked Syracuse. So while

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<v Speaker 1>the victory was a a a good one, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it was definitely a lauded victory, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was short lived because all they did was they changed

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<v Speaker 1>tactics and unfortunately the the iron hand was not as

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<v Speaker 1>good at defending against land based attacks good at all. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there were other theoretical weapons that some people say actually

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<v Speaker 1>were built and used against the Romans during this very

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<v Speaker 1>same siege, and uh, one of the one I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with MythBusters was the the Archimedes death ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, you know what I'm talking about here, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>How he theoretically was able to uh set fire to

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<v Speaker 1>the sales, Yeah, to the same or actual ships from

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<v Speaker 1>a distance. The idea being that he designed a device

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<v Speaker 1>that would reflect and concentrate light from the sun and

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<v Speaker 1>direct it at ships, and it would be so intense

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be hot enough to to set fire

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<v Speaker 1>to at least the sales of the ship, if not

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<v Speaker 1>the actual ships themselves. Uh and and and at least

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<v Speaker 1>some of the reports it was uh said that he

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<v Speaker 1>used shields and he just polished the surface of the

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<v Speaker 1>metal shields and arrayed them in a in a shape

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<v Speaker 1>that would direct the light kind of very concentrated way.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have all these different shields that are tilted

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<v Speaker 1>just so so that the light that they reflect all

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<v Speaker 1>hits the same spot, sort of like the devices that

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<v Speaker 1>you used to cook a hot dog or something like

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<v Speaker 1>that that you used to use a camp. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have your your mirror and you stick your food there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the sunlight reflects off the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror, and except much much larger and stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>use to fire, Yeah, anyway now that that actually isn't

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<v Speaker 1>so far fetched in a way. I mean, he really

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<v Speaker 1>was interested in catoptrics, which I didn't know was a word,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm trying to use it and build it into

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<v Speaker 1>my vocabulary that I don't know what it is, so

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<v Speaker 1>please tell me, yes, Well, I actually got that word

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<v Speaker 1>from H. Britannica's profile on archimedes Um. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>the part of optics that works with the reflection of

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<v Speaker 1>light from mirrors from different types. They could be flat

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<v Speaker 1>or curved mirrors, but catoptrics is is that, uh study,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was particularly interested in it, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it was out of character for him to be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in something like that. But apparently it doesn't so

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<v Speaker 1>much work well. On the MythBusters episode that they made um,

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<v Speaker 1>the MythBusters used they they actually tried to build one

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and it didn't really work so well. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they set out a challenge to various groups to try

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<v Speaker 1>and build old Um a working ur commedees death ray,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found some success, something where it was warm

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<v Speaker 1>enough where it could in theory set fire to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the sales, but it would it took time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to worry about it being the right time

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<v Speaker 1>of day for you to be able to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>And it would really depend on the ship being very

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<v Speaker 1>uh well complicit in the burning process, in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of if the ship's moving around a lot, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to move the ray so that

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<v Speaker 1>it stays on the same general area in order to

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<v Speaker 1>keep increasing that temperature until it reaches the burning point.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the ship's moving, then you may not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to train the ray on that on that uh

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<v Speaker 1>moving target fast enough to be able to um to

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<v Speaker 1>actually get the temperature hot enough to for stuff to burn.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's even if it were an actual weapon, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not necessarily an effective one, not like the not

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<v Speaker 1>like the the the lever that he had designed, which

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<v Speaker 1>was to monsterly effective, effective enough to make the Romans

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<v Speaker 1>change their tactics. Now, there are also other interesting inventions

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<v Speaker 1>that we attribute to our commedies, one of which is

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<v Speaker 1>uh that that he probably did make were planetariums. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they were also called spheres at the time. The Archimedes spears,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was if you don't know what a planetarium is,

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<v Speaker 1>a planetarium is essentially a geocentric model of what the

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<v Speaker 1>h the stars and position of planets in the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>and the moon, what what it looks like from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of Earth. You know, it's a it's an earth

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<v Speaker 1>based view of the the galaxies around us, the universe essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Archimedes had apparently built one of these possibly

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<v Speaker 1>that used interesting little gears to mimic the motion of

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<v Speaker 1>the planets and stars and constellations to keep everything aligned

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<v Speaker 1>properly and making the move the way they actually do

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<v Speaker 1>through the sky. And uh, he built a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>these apparently, although both of them have been lost. There

0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.000
<v Speaker 1>were other devices that have been recovered since then from

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<v Speaker 1>shipwrecks and things like that that may either be an

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<v Speaker 1>actual example of the spheres of Archimedes himself built or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe built on the same principles that Archimedes used when

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<v Speaker 1>building his But that's that's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>we have we've heard the record of him building these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and he certainly had the intelligence necessary to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to design such a thing, we just don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>physical proof of it. Um. Yeah, there was a treatise

0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that he apparently wrote called the sand Reckoner that had

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<v Speaker 1>to do with um astronomy and his astronomical thought. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually had had been able to sort of using his

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<v Speaker 1>tools of his time, he was able to get an

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<v Speaker 1>eye a reasonable idea of the diameter of the sun, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, through his uh using instruments to observe this.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is of course long before people that we

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<v Speaker 1>sort of associate with um astronomy, you know, modern astronomy,

0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.960
<v Speaker 1>people like Galileo UM. You know. There he was really

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<v Speaker 1>sort of in a groundbreaking category in this regard. But

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<v Speaker 1>all there were others who who worked with these principles

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<v Speaker 1>to um. You know, his work went into uh, several

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<v Speaker 1>others as well, but UM, I think it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared for a while. UM. And they were the kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things too that stood out. People like Plutarch, the

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<v Speaker 1>uh um you know, who wrote quite a bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the famous people of his time, categorized archimedes work. UM

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<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, these things were well enough documented

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<v Speaker 1>that he was able to to pull this out. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to talk about another real quick legendary Archimedes

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<v Speaker 1>moment um. This would be another great quote. Yes it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to do with the bathtub. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>again a possibly apocryphal story. So in other words, this

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<v Speaker 1>this may not be true. In fact, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of historians put this in the realm of legend

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<v Speaker 1>for for many reasons, one of which is that the

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<v Speaker 1>solution Archimedes came up with was actually not as not

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<v Speaker 1>as difficult to to get to as you would imagine. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, it seems like it's too easy an

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<v Speaker 1>answer for Archimedes is almost the argument here. But the

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<v Speaker 1>the situation was that you had the King of Syracuse

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<v Speaker 1>who had commissioned a a golden crown, and this golden

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<v Speaker 1>crown was made, but the king was suspicious of the

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<v Speaker 1>golden crown. He thought that perhaps the person who made

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<v Speaker 1>it actually used silver to make the crown and then

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<v Speaker 1>coated it with gold in order to UH to cheat

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<v Speaker 1>the king out of money, essentially because silver was less

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<v Speaker 1>precious than gold, and therefore by using gold silver in

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<v Speaker 1>the crown, he could make it for for less money

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<v Speaker 1>than it would cost him uh to to gather all

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<v Speaker 1>the materials, and thus have a higher profit. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you figure out if it weighs the right amount

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<v Speaker 1>for a crown of that general size? Um, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you figure out whether or not silver was used? Well,

0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 1>silver doesn't weigh as much as gold does. So in

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<v Speaker 1>other in other words, in order to make a silver

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<v Speaker 1>crown that would weigh the same amount as a gold crown,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to add more silver. Right, So, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had a cube of silver and a cube of

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<v Speaker 1>gold that were the exact same size, the gold would

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<v Speaker 1>weigh more. So in order to make the cube's weigh

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<v Speaker 1>the same, you would have to have a bigger cube

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<v Speaker 1>of silver. Right, So that was that was what Archimedes

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<v Speaker 1>came up with. He came up with this adea of well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I use the amount of gold that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to create the weight of this crown, let's say this

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<v Speaker 1>crown weighs let's just say ten pounds. Okay, okay, So

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.440
<v Speaker 1>for the argument's sake, this crown weighed ten pounds. So

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>what our community said, Well, what if I get ten

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of gold, and then I use some way to

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<v Speaker 1>determine the mass of that gold, and then I use

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<v Speaker 1>that same measurement for the crown. If the measurements the same,

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<v Speaker 1>then we can come to the conclusion that the gold

0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that is gold in the crown, if the if it's different,

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<v Speaker 1>then we can say that maybe there's a different material

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<v Speaker 1>in here. So what he did was he took a bath. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so this all has to do with the displacement of

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<v Speaker 1>water by putting the the and again we're just using

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<v Speaker 1>this this measurement out of for for simplicity's sake. Putting

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<v Speaker 1>ten pounds of gold in the bath, he sees how

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<v Speaker 1>much water is displaced, how far that water is displaced

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<v Speaker 1>in the bath, and then putting the crown in there,

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<v Speaker 1>he can see how much water is displaced from there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the the amount is different than he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>the two materials are not the same. And supposedly he

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<v Speaker 1>became so excited by this discovery that he ran out

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<v Speaker 1>of his home. Starkers, I'm that's not a joke. That's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the legend. Know that that part is not

0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:27.640
<v Speaker 1>what's cracking up Starkers. He was naked as a blue

0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.880
<v Speaker 1>jay running down the road, turning into my kinfolk here.

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Um so anyway, yeah, completely nude, running down the street

0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and screams out Eureka, which means I have found it

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>also is a quirky, uh dramatic comedy on the sci

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<v Speaker 1>Fi network. Yes, that is anyway, So Eureka, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we get that when when you have someone who

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<v Speaker 1>makes a discovering screams out eureka, they are essentially paying

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<v Speaker 1>homage to Archimedes, which, again, since this is a potentially

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<v Speaker 1>apocryphal story, we might just be paying homage to a legend. Well,

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 1>apparently the bathtub part is what's probably apocryphal, but the

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.119
<v Speaker 1>crown part apparently is true. Um, they do. They do

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>seem to feel, or at least Britannic Adust seems to

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>feel that that that he was asked to determine whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the crown was actually gold apparently really did happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then you know, you would want somebody like

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes to do this because he was thinking scientifically in

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this case. And the reason you might say, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't they just scratched the crown and see if they're

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<v Speaker 1>silver and they bite it like your coin, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem here was that the crown was considered to

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<v Speaker 1>be almost a holy relic. It was because you're the

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<v Speaker 1>kings of the Greeks were they would trace their lineage

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<v Speaker 1>back to God's and so you couldn't destroy the crown

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<v Speaker 1>in any way because that was an front to the gods.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had to find a non destructive way to

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<v Speaker 1>test this without you know, without actually causing any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of damage to the crown, which makes it way more difficult. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have another object that is attributed to Archimedes,

0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>although it's very possible that it actually predates his lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just that he observed it and then was

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<v Speaker 1>able to apply it elsewhere, which is the Archimedes screw. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, how could it not be Archimedes invention?

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:36.919
<v Speaker 1>It has his name right there in the name. Well, yeah,

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's isn't named for somebody named McDonald, so you know

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a name. A name is is a tricky thing sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, he did. He did observe the principle that uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the hydrostatic principle using using the screw to

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<v Speaker 1>raise water, which sounds counterintuitive at first until you realize

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<v Speaker 1>how this is implemented. It's actually a screw that is,

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<v Speaker 1>in general, the screw is encased in a tube and

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<v Speaker 1>then you lay it in a at an angle whereof

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one end is raised at the top and

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<v Speaker 1>the other end goes into the water. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>one end that that descends into the water, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have one end that's above the water level. You start

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<v Speaker 1>turning that screw and what it does is it scoops

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<v Speaker 1>the water and the water travels up the screw just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the principle of the screw as you turn

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 1>it within this tube. Now there's you know, you might

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<v Speaker 1>have some leakage issues where some of the water leaks

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<v Speaker 1>back down to the next level down. But as as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you start turning that screw in a nice clip,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually the water starts coming to the surface, and the

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<v Speaker 1>the speed that you turn the screw will counteract the

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<v Speaker 1>leaking problem. And since it's just leaking to the next

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<v Speaker 1>level down, it essentially becomes a non issue once you

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<v Speaker 1>get to a certain speed and you can actually lift

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<v Speaker 1>water out of out of a body of water that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was often used in our commedes time two

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<v Speaker 1>pull water from say a lake and put it into

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<v Speaker 1>an irrigation system. The Greeks and Romans were both very

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<v Speaker 1>big on irrigation. Yes indeed, um, yeah, Actually that reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of there's an infant toy that has three or

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<v Speaker 1>four little plastic balls and there's a screw inside and

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<v Speaker 1>if you push down and it's encased as you said,

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in it and not in a tube. It's actually sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a it's not conical, but it does get narrower

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<v Speaker 1>at the top than it is at the bottom. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you press down on the plunger in the center,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes the screw turn. And the faster you push it,

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<v Speaker 1>the higher the balls climb up the screw until you stop,

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they know spin back down. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not hydro static, there's no water, and but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same kind of thing, and you can sort

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<v Speaker 1>of if you've seen that, that's you can sort of

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>imagine that because it's you don't often see an archimedes

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<v Speaker 1>screw in practice, although you you you can see them

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>in practice if you were to go to certain hydro

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.880
<v Speaker 1>electric plants, they would be used in practice in reverse

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<v Speaker 1>because then what you do is you turn the If

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to pour water on the top of the screw,

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it will make the screw turn. So you know, turning

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the screw will bring water to the top. But if

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you pour water on the top of the screw, it

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>makes the screw turn, so it's the reverse action. Well,

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that means that if you are able to position the

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>screw so that a flow of water is constant on

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>the top of it, then the screw will keep turning.

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>You can make that screw to work. You can have

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that screw uh use you can use it to drive

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a generator, an electric generator, and thus you can create

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>electricity from water. That's just one way. I mean, there

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>are turbines as well. I mean, it's not the only

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>method of of using water to drive an electric generator,

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 1>but it is one way. Yeah. I was actually thinking

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Tesla turbine when you mentioned that, um, which

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>is also a fascinating thing. We have an article on

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the website about that as a matter of fact. Not

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not using the same exact principle, but it's also

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a way of using water to to uh to turn

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 1>a turbine. That's not, you know, something what I would

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>think of a typical But anyway, I digress, and we

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>again we should point out, I mean, we've mentioned it

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, but it bears repeating that they

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<v Speaker 1>the actual Archimedes screw. There are at least some indications

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that this was being used in Egypt, uh well before

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes ever had his name attached to it. Yeah, completely

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>by chance. Um A few months ago, I was reading

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the uh the Biography of Cleopatra by Stacy Schiff. It's

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>very popular there for a while, UM, and I hadn't

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>really read a lot about ancient Egypt. But he Archimedes

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 1>was actually in contact with, uh, some of the scientists

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in Alexandria, which at that time, Alexandria and Egypt was

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>probably the world center of learning, or at least one

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of the top uh centers of scholarship, you know. And um,

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he apparently was was in contact with them and had

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<v Speaker 1>spent some time in Egypt before he went to Syracuse. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is not at all unlikely, um that he

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have you know that that he would have had

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>contact with those uh, those scientists over there and gotten

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>some some cool ideas, you know. And he also was

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<v Speaker 1>attributed with the creation of a game. Really yeah, did

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you hear about stonemacheon or stomachion. I have heard of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't realize this was this was related to

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>our comedies. It's attributed to him. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>game that you play with these different shapes. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like having a puzzle in a way, like these shapes.

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<v Speaker 1>If you if you put them all together in one way,

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<v Speaker 1>it will create essentially a square. But the idea is

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<v Speaker 1>to use those shapes to create other recognizable shapes. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's really an exercise and creativity like seeing seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>potential of geometry to build um shapes that are more organic,

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<v Speaker 1>so things like you use them to build a tree

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<v Speaker 1>or the example I saw was an elephant. Um, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of it's just kind of interesting. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you have to use all the shapes in

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<v Speaker 1>the group to create a recognizable object, an interesting object.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so that's also attributed to Archimedes. But again

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<v Speaker 1>this is another one of those attributions that we can't

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<v Speaker 1>be completely certain is accurate. It's just one of those

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<v Speaker 1>another another interesting thing of something that Archimedes may have

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<v Speaker 1>had a hand in. Um. So shapes actually yeah, um

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<v Speaker 1>looking for something. Darn it all right, hang on, well,

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>well you look and then we will pick up alright,

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 1>speaking of shapes. Um, you know, he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>involved with many He published a lot of his work,

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<v Speaker 1>and there there is an indication that he may have

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<v Speaker 1>had other work that he either didn't publish or that

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<v Speaker 1>was later lost. Um. Again, there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time that has passed now since he is he has

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<v Speaker 1>left us. But um, one of the things we do

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>know that he was fascinated with shapes. Um. He was

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<v Speaker 1>able to, uh to figure out the surface area of

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<v Speaker 1>a spear sphere of radius r. Remember this back from

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<v Speaker 1>your mathematics classes. I have a vague memory of it. Yeah,

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>yeph s equals for pie r squared. Yeah, and the

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>volume is two thirds of the cylinder in which it

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<v Speaker 1>is inscribed. H v equals four thirds pie r cubed.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not had to know those those formula and

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<v Speaker 1>so long, but they came back to me as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I saw that. And apparently, uh, he was so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about this that this is actually, uh what his

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<v Speaker 1>tomb was arked with. Marcus Tullius Cicero found his tomb,

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>which had been overgrown with uh greenery, let's say, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>probably about a hundred and fifty years or so after

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he died, and found that his uh, his tomb had

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<v Speaker 1>been inscribed with a a sphere or had been marked

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<v Speaker 1>with a sphere inscribed in a cylinder. And that's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that's fascinating. I mean, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>what I learned about geometry and um uh calculus. I

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<v Speaker 1>think of people who came much later than that. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in general, but Archimedes really had a huge

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<v Speaker 1>influence on many many other people. Of course, his writings

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>were known to uh, to the Arabic world. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of scientists and mathematicians from that era

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>in in later centuries were able to take his work

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<v Speaker 1>and build upon it. Um, and it's just uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just cool stuff. He also did lot with with mathematics

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<v Speaker 1>as it was, you know, working on place value systems

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<v Speaker 1>UM and lots and lots of different things. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't. Uh he was, I would say, polly mathic. Yes,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody who is is um well, has has

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge in multiple areas, very knowledgeable about a variety of

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>mathematical and science topics. And we'll probably talk about other

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>individuals who fall into that category as well. Um for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I eventually we're gonna have to do a full profile

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<v Speaker 1>on Leonardo da Vinci. Yeah, because but that's another famous

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>polymath from from history that that you know, really was

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<v Speaker 1>instrumental in the whole idea of of invention, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really embracing that part of genius and uh, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say Archimedes was a great you know, uh forefather of

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that of invention as well. Now granted, he's also a

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<v Speaker 1>very good example of the the raise uh necessity is

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<v Speaker 1>the mother of invention. When you've got romans attacking you,

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<v Speaker 1>you find it really necessary to find a way to

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