1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,257 --> 00:00:24,377 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. The one 5 00:00:24,417 --> 00:00:27,137 Speaker 2: and only Joe Borelli is with us. He is the 6 00:00:27,297 --> 00:00:30,137 Speaker 2: Republican leader of the New York City Council. He is 7 00:00:30,177 --> 00:00:33,817 Speaker 2: the Sage of Staten Island. A man who knows many 8 00:00:33,817 --> 00:00:36,777 Speaker 2: things about many things. Mister Barelli, always an honor of 9 00:00:36,897 --> 00:00:38,257 Speaker 2: privilege and a pleasure. 10 00:00:39,297 --> 00:00:42,017 Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing good. It is great to 11 00:00:42,057 --> 00:00:44,377 Speaker 1: see you. Great. You look healthy, Buck, As they. 12 00:00:44,377 --> 00:00:47,457 Speaker 2: Say, yeah, you know, I'm trying. I'm a Florida man now, 13 00:00:47,737 --> 00:00:51,537 Speaker 2: and I will say the weather is nice. It makes 14 00:00:51,577 --> 00:00:54,057 Speaker 2: you soft, although you have to be really fit here, 15 00:00:54,057 --> 00:00:57,217 Speaker 2: so it makes you soft, like to temperature wise. But 16 00:00:57,417 --> 00:00:59,977 Speaker 2: then again, you know, I probably should like stop eating 17 00:01:00,017 --> 00:01:01,697 Speaker 2: carbs entirely if I want to fit in with the 18 00:01:01,697 --> 00:01:05,137 Speaker 2: Miami set here. But tell me this, I actually want 19 00:01:05,137 --> 00:01:09,057 Speaker 2: to dive into how are things going in good old 20 00:01:09,177 --> 00:01:12,177 Speaker 2: NYC these days? Like what what's the latest with the 21 00:01:12,977 --> 00:01:16,337 Speaker 2: mayor Adams? How would you grade him at this point? 22 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:17,177 Speaker 2: How's it all going? 23 00:01:18,217 --> 00:01:21,457 Speaker 1: Well? I'd give him a pretty low grade. But the 24 00:01:21,497 --> 00:01:25,057 Speaker 1: irony is that if he were to lose in two 25 00:01:25,177 --> 00:01:27,977 Speaker 1: years from today to twenty twenty five is the next 26 00:01:28,017 --> 00:01:30,817 Speaker 1: mayoral election. If he were to lose, it would only 27 00:01:30,897 --> 00:01:34,497 Speaker 1: be to someone attacking him from the left, and that 28 00:01:34,537 --> 00:01:36,897 Speaker 1: would be even worse than the current situation we have now. 29 00:01:37,857 --> 00:01:41,977 Speaker 2: How is that even possible? Like, what does it take 30 00:01:42,017 --> 00:01:45,057 Speaker 2: for people in New York City to figure out that 31 00:01:45,417 --> 00:01:50,057 Speaker 2: having homeless people defecating on the streets and stabbing people 32 00:01:50,217 --> 00:01:54,697 Speaker 2: with you know, whatever they have at hand, and rising 33 00:01:54,817 --> 00:01:57,857 Speaker 2: crime and all this stuff, and the subways being unsafe 34 00:01:57,857 --> 00:02:00,737 Speaker 2: and people getting pushed in front of trains, what does 35 00:02:00,777 --> 00:02:04,177 Speaker 2: it take for the Libs to be less crazy? In 36 00:02:04,737 --> 00:02:07,057 Speaker 2: my hometown and your hometown? How does this happen. 37 00:02:08,057 --> 00:02:10,777 Speaker 1: They don't get less crazy, if any thing, They just 38 00:02:10,857 --> 00:02:14,417 Speaker 1: get more entrenched in their bizarre world. And you see 39 00:02:14,417 --> 00:02:17,297 Speaker 1: that mostly in Manhattan. You see this less frequently in 40 00:02:17,337 --> 00:02:20,497 Speaker 1: the outer boroughs, where regular assault of the earth New 41 00:02:20,577 --> 00:02:23,617 Speaker 1: Yorkers live. That I'm talking about Black New Yorkers, Hispanic 42 00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:27,257 Speaker 1: New Yorkers, Jewish people, Russian people. They're all starting to shift. 43 00:02:27,697 --> 00:02:30,057 Speaker 1: But the epicenter of the problem is Manhattan. And I'll 44 00:02:30,057 --> 00:02:32,697 Speaker 1: give you a great example. I mean, Alvin Bragg is 45 00:02:32,737 --> 00:02:37,617 Speaker 1: the epitome of moronic district attorney Soros Fund the district attorneys, 46 00:02:37,977 --> 00:02:41,017 Speaker 1: and he is being cheered on right now or indicting 47 00:02:41,017 --> 00:02:45,497 Speaker 1: a police officer yesterday. So this cop was basically involved 48 00:02:45,497 --> 00:02:48,537 Speaker 1: in a situation in a Manhattan Apple store in twenty 49 00:02:48,617 --> 00:02:53,977 Speaker 1: twenty one. Alvin Bragg investigated this for two years, two years, 50 00:02:54,017 --> 00:02:56,737 Speaker 1: and just brought an indictment against the cop for punching 51 00:02:56,817 --> 00:03:00,497 Speaker 1: someone as he was trying to escort this person outside 52 00:03:00,497 --> 00:03:03,017 Speaker 1: of the apple store who was harassing people in the 53 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:05,977 Speaker 1: store and threatening to kill everyone. That's the one we 54 00:03:06,017 --> 00:03:08,937 Speaker 1: live in. So even though we see you know, Deoderant 55 00:03:09,097 --> 00:03:14,057 Speaker 1: locked up in in cages in Dwayne Reid, the elected 56 00:03:14,137 --> 00:03:16,857 Speaker 1: leaders who are actually in charge of prosecuting these people 57 00:03:16,937 --> 00:03:19,057 Speaker 1: are completely on this side of the criminals. 58 00:03:19,737 --> 00:03:23,937 Speaker 2: What is what justificates an excessive force from the police officer. 59 00:03:23,977 --> 00:03:25,617 Speaker 2: That's why he's bringing the indictment. 60 00:03:25,937 --> 00:03:29,417 Speaker 1: A third degree misdemeanor, the lowest charge possible you can 61 00:03:29,457 --> 00:03:32,857 Speaker 1: bring to basically get the cop fired, which is just 62 00:03:32,897 --> 00:03:36,497 Speaker 1: again two years of an investigation, not of the person 63 00:03:36,537 --> 00:03:39,537 Speaker 1: who has been a serial burglar and arrested numerous times 64 00:03:39,537 --> 00:03:41,377 Speaker 1: for a host of crimes. And by the way, the 65 00:03:41,417 --> 00:03:43,737 Speaker 1: Apple security guard just had a great story in the 66 00:03:43,737 --> 00:03:46,577 Speaker 1: Post today basically saying, I saw the whole thing. The 67 00:03:46,657 --> 00:03:48,897 Speaker 1: DA's office didn't even ask me, and I'm the damned 68 00:03:48,897 --> 00:03:52,057 Speaker 1: security guard and the cop did nothing wrong. And this 69 00:03:52,137 --> 00:03:56,457 Speaker 1: is sort of, you know, the example du jour of 70 00:03:56,497 --> 00:03:59,737 Speaker 1: the backwardsness of the majority of New York City. 71 00:03:59,857 --> 00:04:03,057 Speaker 2: Why is this? Why is Alvin Bragg? Why is DA 72 00:04:03,337 --> 00:04:07,337 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg pro criminal? Because that's really what it seems like. 73 00:04:07,377 --> 00:04:10,537 Speaker 2: He thinks his job is to use the hower he 74 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:15,417 Speaker 2: has to the greatest possible benefit of the criminal class 75 00:04:15,457 --> 00:04:16,377 Speaker 2: in New York City. 76 00:04:16,417 --> 00:04:19,297 Speaker 1: Why Yeah, I mean, I think the best thing we 77 00:04:19,337 --> 00:04:21,337 Speaker 1: could say about him, and the most favorable thing I 78 00:04:21,337 --> 00:04:23,777 Speaker 1: can come up with, is that he was honest in 79 00:04:23,857 --> 00:04:26,497 Speaker 1: telling us this is exactly who he is. And that's 80 00:04:26,537 --> 00:04:28,897 Speaker 1: why this is such a problem, because the voters picked this. 81 00:04:29,137 --> 00:04:32,057 Speaker 1: The voters didn't get you know, they didn't get Option B. 82 00:04:32,177 --> 00:04:35,097 Speaker 1: And then suddenly, behind door number two, some woke liberal 83 00:04:35,137 --> 00:04:37,337 Speaker 1: came out. They got a guy who said, I am 84 00:04:37,377 --> 00:04:39,777 Speaker 1: going to make sure the fewest number of people get 85 00:04:39,817 --> 00:04:41,457 Speaker 1: put in jail. I am going to make sure the 86 00:04:41,497 --> 00:04:45,057 Speaker 1: absolute fewest number possible people who are convicted of a 87 00:04:45,097 --> 00:04:47,297 Speaker 1: crime or plead to a crime get put in a 88 00:04:47,337 --> 00:04:49,937 Speaker 1: New York City jail. And he's doing that. His Day 89 00:04:50,017 --> 00:04:52,737 Speaker 1: one memo basically said, here are the crimes we are 90 00:04:52,777 --> 00:04:56,577 Speaker 1: no longer going to prosecute for now. Downstream two years, 91 00:04:57,097 --> 00:05:00,097 Speaker 1: we're suddenly surprised again that you know, if you want 92 00:05:00,097 --> 00:05:03,097 Speaker 1: to get lipstick, it's locked up in a cage somewhere 93 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:06,017 Speaker 1: in your local supermarket, or that stores are closing and 94 00:05:07,337 --> 00:05:10,737 Speaker 1: bodega owners are getting charged criminally, cops are getting charge criminally, 95 00:05:10,777 --> 00:05:13,857 Speaker 1: but not the regular people were regularly committing these crimes. 96 00:05:15,057 --> 00:05:17,977 Speaker 2: It's just remarkable to me. I would I would have 97 00:05:17,977 --> 00:05:20,337 Speaker 2: thought years ago, given what New York City went through, 98 00:05:20,457 --> 00:05:23,297 Speaker 2: Joe in the nineties, you were there, right, you were 99 00:05:23,297 --> 00:05:28,777 Speaker 2: in Stane out right, Yeah, given the crime rate which 100 00:05:28,897 --> 00:05:32,017 Speaker 2: was truly just heinous for people's day to day lives 101 00:05:32,337 --> 00:05:36,097 Speaker 2: all over the Five boroughs, and then the turnaround during 102 00:05:36,137 --> 00:05:39,217 Speaker 2: the Giuliani era, and just how much better it was 103 00:05:39,257 --> 00:05:42,737 Speaker 2: for everybody once the city got cleaned up. And it's 104 00:05:42,737 --> 00:05:46,017 Speaker 2: not that complicated, it's literally cleaned up like the streets, 105 00:05:46,057 --> 00:05:50,017 Speaker 2: but also enforced the laws. How do we get to 106 00:05:50,057 --> 00:05:52,937 Speaker 2: this place where New York, which was the case study 107 00:05:52,977 --> 00:05:56,097 Speaker 2: of how to fix it all, decided to unfix it. 108 00:05:56,377 --> 00:05:57,737 Speaker 2: You know what is that? 109 00:05:58,737 --> 00:06:02,497 Speaker 1: So this is by no means blaming the pandemic, because 110 00:06:02,577 --> 00:06:04,737 Speaker 1: a lot of big cities in the country did not 111 00:06:04,777 --> 00:06:07,297 Speaker 1: go through a similar thing. But the pandemic as the 112 00:06:07,417 --> 00:06:11,697 Speaker 1: catalyst of acceleration for some of these problems. Absolutely happened 113 00:06:11,897 --> 00:06:13,857 Speaker 1: because you even had and you got to remember, Buck, 114 00:06:13,897 --> 00:06:16,097 Speaker 1: you lived here during this time. You lived during the 115 00:06:16,137 --> 00:06:19,457 Speaker 1: first term of the de Blasio administration. That was a 116 00:06:19,457 --> 00:06:21,897 Speaker 1: pretty good time for New York Mayor Bloomberg, who I 117 00:06:21,937 --> 00:06:25,617 Speaker 1: disagreed with on twenty different things a year at least 118 00:06:25,697 --> 00:06:29,457 Speaker 1: kept the basic services and functionality of the city under 119 00:06:29,457 --> 00:06:32,177 Speaker 1: good management, and he should be commended for that. Then 120 00:06:32,217 --> 00:06:36,377 Speaker 1: you had the pandemic hit, and you had sort of 121 00:06:36,417 --> 00:06:39,897 Speaker 1: the acceleration of seeing all the woke policies that were 122 00:06:39,897 --> 00:06:43,137 Speaker 1: put into place, like bail reform and all sorts of 123 00:06:43,217 --> 00:06:46,697 Speaker 1: criminal justice reform were actually playing out in quick time 124 00:06:46,817 --> 00:06:48,977 Speaker 1: because people got arrested, people felt like they can get 125 00:06:48,977 --> 00:06:52,737 Speaker 1: away with things, and sort of the narrative arc of 126 00:06:52,857 --> 00:06:57,577 Speaker 1: crime went so quickly. Now other cities in even blue 127 00:06:57,617 --> 00:07:01,977 Speaker 1: cities in red states, those came, you know, parabolic, the 128 00:07:02,017 --> 00:07:04,577 Speaker 1: crime went up, and the crime went down. In New York, 129 00:07:04,697 --> 00:07:07,937 Speaker 1: we're just starting to see the crime going down, largely 130 00:07:07,977 --> 00:07:10,017 Speaker 1: because of the NYPD. The NYPD is making more red 131 00:07:10,217 --> 00:07:12,937 Speaker 1: I mean low and behold right, what we always said, 132 00:07:13,177 --> 00:07:15,817 Speaker 1: if we have more aggressive policing in a lower crime 133 00:07:16,137 --> 00:07:20,057 Speaker 1: that is actually happening. The crime level is down, But 134 00:07:20,217 --> 00:07:23,217 Speaker 1: on the prosecution side and on the keeping people behind bars, 135 00:07:23,257 --> 00:07:25,617 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just not happening. Build a Blasio 136 00:07:25,657 --> 00:07:28,737 Speaker 1: in his last year, did a press conference touting the 137 00:07:28,737 --> 00:07:31,937 Speaker 1: fact that we had the lowest jail population on Rikers 138 00:07:32,017 --> 00:07:35,057 Speaker 1: Island since World War Two. If the crime rate was 139 00:07:35,097 --> 00:07:37,497 Speaker 1: the same as it was in nineteen forty five, the 140 00:07:37,537 --> 00:07:39,417 Speaker 1: number of violent felonies were the same as it was 141 00:07:39,457 --> 00:07:41,577 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty five, we would be patting Build A 142 00:07:41,577 --> 00:07:43,817 Speaker 1: Blasio on the back saying, hey, heck of with a job, buddy. 143 00:07:44,337 --> 00:07:46,537 Speaker 1: But it wasn't. The crime was actually going up by then. 144 00:07:47,017 --> 00:07:49,297 Speaker 1: Just the number of people who are criminals that were 145 00:07:49,337 --> 00:07:52,257 Speaker 1: segregated from us through the criminal justice system was at 146 00:07:52,257 --> 00:07:54,017 Speaker 1: its lowest point since nineteen forty five. 147 00:07:54,417 --> 00:07:56,537 Speaker 2: So this is important. 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You're tired, 184 00:09:36,537 --> 00:09:39,137 Speaker 2: you're poor, You're the thing on the poem, the Lazarus 185 00:09:39,137 --> 00:09:41,737 Speaker 2: poem on the Statue of Liberty. That's what they always 186 00:09:41,737 --> 00:09:43,697 Speaker 2: tell us about all the need for open borders. But 187 00:09:43,737 --> 00:09:46,217 Speaker 2: now Adams is saying, all full too many illegals. What's 188 00:09:46,257 --> 00:09:46,657 Speaker 2: going on? 189 00:09:47,577 --> 00:09:50,257 Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out poems don't pay the bills. So 190 00:09:50,897 --> 00:09:53,897 Speaker 1: what I believe happened? And from my conversations, both with 191 00:09:53,937 --> 00:09:56,577 Speaker 1: people in the Adams administration and just sort of my 192 00:09:56,577 --> 00:09:59,337 Speaker 1: own observation is that he was more than willing to 193 00:09:59,457 --> 00:10:01,857 Speaker 1: sort of carry the Democrats water be the post of 194 00:10:01,937 --> 00:10:05,737 Speaker 1: boy of sanctuary cities. And when the projections were going 195 00:10:05,817 --> 00:10:08,017 Speaker 1: to be that it was going to be five thousand people, 196 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:11,937 Speaker 1: ten thousand people, you know, So that effect on our 197 00:10:11,977 --> 00:10:14,617 Speaker 1: budget is like a fart in a breezy day. It 198 00:10:14,657 --> 00:10:16,977 Speaker 1: wasn't going to have any impact. But now that we've 199 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,857 Speaker 1: had almost one hundred thousand people come through our system 200 00:10:20,057 --> 00:10:23,777 Speaker 1: and over fifty thousand people in our shelters nightly in 201 00:10:23,777 --> 00:10:26,417 Speaker 1: addition to our regular homeless shelter population. Mind you, this 202 00:10:26,457 --> 00:10:31,737 Speaker 1: is fifty thousand migrant homeless population. Now the dollar amount 203 00:10:31,777 --> 00:10:35,417 Speaker 1: is simply unsustainable. Not only is the dollar amount unsustainable, 204 00:10:35,657 --> 00:10:38,857 Speaker 1: but the Adams Administration can't actually find enough rooms to 205 00:10:38,857 --> 00:10:42,977 Speaker 1: put people. Know, they can't basically put tent cities wherever 206 00:10:43,017 --> 00:10:45,777 Speaker 1: they want. There's no hotels that are any long and 207 00:10:45,897 --> 00:10:48,897 Speaker 1: willing to lease space, and they're coming up on basically 208 00:10:48,937 --> 00:10:50,777 Speaker 1: a hard stop of where they can put people. They're 209 00:10:50,777 --> 00:10:54,417 Speaker 1: actually renting hotels outside of the city limits in counties 210 00:10:54,577 --> 00:10:57,097 Speaker 1: on the island and in the Hudson Valley. But the 211 00:10:57,177 --> 00:11:00,857 Speaker 1: number is insane. The number in our last budget that 212 00:11:00,937 --> 00:11:03,417 Speaker 1: was unaccounted for, meaning it was migrant money that was 213 00:11:03,457 --> 00:11:06,017 Speaker 1: not budgeted prior to the start of the fiscal year, 214 00:11:06,257 --> 00:11:08,697 Speaker 1: was about one point eight billion dollars. So, to give 215 00:11:08,737 --> 00:11:12,017 Speaker 1: the listeners a comparable, one point eight billion dollars is 216 00:11:12,217 --> 00:11:15,337 Speaker 1: more more than we spend on the fd and Y. 217 00:11:15,657 --> 00:11:18,657 Speaker 1: FD and Y has ten thousand firefighters, five thousand EMPs, 218 00:11:18,697 --> 00:11:23,137 Speaker 1: three hundreds firehouses, five thousand ambulances, twenty four hour rotations, 219 00:11:23,297 --> 00:11:26,177 Speaker 1: people watching the city all day long, and yet the 220 00:11:26,297 --> 00:11:30,377 Speaker 1: migrant crisis is actually costing more money than the largest 221 00:11:30,377 --> 00:11:35,097 Speaker 1: fire department and EMS system in the country. It's simply bonkers. 222 00:11:35,577 --> 00:11:37,217 Speaker 1: And now add them to the stuff between a rock 223 00:11:37,257 --> 00:11:40,217 Speaker 1: and a hard place, where they've they've resorted to actually 224 00:11:40,257 --> 00:11:42,297 Speaker 1: putting flyers out. I don't know if you've seen this book. 225 00:11:42,297 --> 00:11:45,617 Speaker 1: They're actually putting flyers out that they're sending to Texas 226 00:11:45,617 --> 00:11:49,257 Speaker 1: and having people hand them out at the basically the 227 00:11:49,897 --> 00:11:52,217 Speaker 1: centers that process people when they come across the border, 228 00:11:52,577 --> 00:11:55,217 Speaker 1: telling them that New York's really expensive and there might 229 00:11:55,257 --> 00:11:58,057 Speaker 1: not be a place for them to live. So that's 230 00:11:58,097 --> 00:12:01,297 Speaker 1: how far We've come from let me be the poster 231 00:12:01,377 --> 00:12:04,617 Speaker 1: boy for sanctuary city policies to now he's attacking the 232 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:07,737 Speaker 1: Biden administration rightfully, by the way, for not paying for 233 00:12:07,777 --> 00:12:10,457 Speaker 1: this problem that has caused one hundred percent by the 234 00:12:10,497 --> 00:12:15,257 Speaker 1: federal government's failure. We're just on the hook on being 235 00:12:15,297 --> 00:12:18,217 Speaker 1: the world's refugee camp because of our own dopey politicians 236 00:12:18,257 --> 00:12:20,737 Speaker 1: who decided to have not just the sanctuary city law, 237 00:12:21,057 --> 00:12:24,257 Speaker 1: but a right to shelter law ingrained at our state constitution, 238 00:12:24,617 --> 00:12:27,537 Speaker 1: which guarantees any person, which person is now defined as 239 00:12:27,537 --> 00:12:31,297 Speaker 1: a migrant, unlimited resources should they need them. 240 00:12:31,977 --> 00:12:33,257 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. 241 00:12:33,297 --> 00:12:35,257 Speaker 1: I mean, just give me the right choice by leaving Buck, 242 00:12:35,257 --> 00:12:36,177 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 243 00:12:36,937 --> 00:12:39,217 Speaker 2: I Well, you know, I see now where do all 244 00:12:39,257 --> 00:12:41,697 Speaker 2: my tax dollars go? Recently I saw not only do 245 00:12:41,697 --> 00:12:43,977 Speaker 2: you got the one point eight billion going for illegals, 246 00:12:44,697 --> 00:12:48,857 Speaker 2: but there's this judgment that Deblasio set up this fund 247 00:12:48,937 --> 00:12:50,977 Speaker 2: right for teachers that failed the test who are black 248 00:12:50,977 --> 00:12:55,137 Speaker 2: and Hispanic, who failed this teacher certification exam. They're getting 249 00:12:55,137 --> 00:12:57,417 Speaker 2: a million dollars, some of them two million dollars, paying 250 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:00,817 Speaker 2: them for an entire career of work that they never did, 251 00:13:01,177 --> 00:13:04,057 Speaker 2: They went off and did other jobs. But now after 252 00:13:04,097 --> 00:13:06,097 Speaker 2: twenty years they get the full back pay for all 253 00:13:06,097 --> 00:13:09,177 Speaker 2: twenty years and benefits because they failed the test of 254 00:13:09,257 --> 00:13:13,497 Speaker 2: basic reading and teaching skills. Like, that's where my tax 255 00:13:13,537 --> 00:13:15,057 Speaker 2: dollars are going as a New Yorker, or where they 256 00:13:15,097 --> 00:13:17,777 Speaker 2: would be going. Rather, that's where yours are going, Joe, Yeah. 257 00:13:17,897 --> 00:13:21,177 Speaker 1: Or the thirteen million they just settled with on BLM 258 00:13:21,257 --> 00:13:24,497 Speaker 1: protesters after George Floyd. So if you were arrested during 259 00:13:24,497 --> 00:13:28,777 Speaker 1: the protest and perhaps roughed up in the ensuing scuffle, 260 00:13:29,097 --> 00:13:31,977 Speaker 1: or maybe you were held two hours too long, they 261 00:13:32,017 --> 00:13:34,497 Speaker 1: settled about thirteen million dollars with a whole bunch of 262 00:13:34,497 --> 00:13:38,017 Speaker 1: defendants who felt they were wrongly arrested and wrongly detained. 263 00:13:38,057 --> 00:13:39,537 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the kind of city 264 00:13:39,577 --> 00:13:42,377 Speaker 1: we live in where where it just it is unsustainable. 265 00:13:43,017 --> 00:13:45,057 Speaker 1: The New Yorker, which I'm sure you don't read it 266 00:13:45,057 --> 00:13:47,377 Speaker 1: because I don't really read it that often, but they 267 00:13:47,377 --> 00:13:50,297 Speaker 1: came out with a really good article yesterday about the 268 00:13:50,337 --> 00:13:54,057 Speaker 1: crisis involving New York real estate, both commercial and residential. 269 00:13:54,537 --> 00:13:57,457 Speaker 1: And we are at the precipice of a fiscal cliff. 270 00:13:57,737 --> 00:14:00,857 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been hyperbolic about this in the past, 271 00:14:00,857 --> 00:14:03,137 Speaker 1: and maybe too much though, but now we really are 272 00:14:03,297 --> 00:14:08,777 Speaker 1: up against a very very very hard situation where banks 273 00:14:08,817 --> 00:14:13,417 Speaker 1: may have to default on lenders. Uh and and UH business. 274 00:14:13,497 --> 00:14:16,377 Speaker 1: I'm rather building owners no longer have the ability to 275 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:18,937 Speaker 1: go to local banks to get refinancing, and some of 276 00:14:18,937 --> 00:14:21,417 Speaker 1: the largest buildings in New York City. This is this 277 00:14:21,457 --> 00:14:24,737 Speaker 1: is actually a catastrophic event for New York that could 278 00:14:24,777 --> 00:14:25,217 Speaker 1: be happening. 279 00:14:25,697 --> 00:14:28,457 Speaker 2: How far off is that from becoming a reality at 280 00:14:28,457 --> 00:14:31,577 Speaker 2: this point? Like, is this expected to happen in a 281 00:14:31,617 --> 00:14:34,977 Speaker 2: matter of of you know, weeks, months, years? 282 00:14:36,177 --> 00:14:37,617 Speaker 1: I would say within a year or two. I mean, 283 00:14:37,657 --> 00:14:40,417 Speaker 1: you'll start seeing some of the regional banks and lenders 284 00:14:40,737 --> 00:14:44,297 Speaker 1: who finance some of these smaller properties. You'll see it 285 00:14:44,297 --> 00:14:46,257 Speaker 1: affected in their stock market price and some of the 286 00:14:46,657 --> 00:14:49,177 Speaker 1: issues in the market on them. Then you'll see some 287 00:14:49,217 --> 00:14:52,057 Speaker 1: of these and and a Blackstone a company just handed 288 00:14:52,097 --> 00:14:54,857 Speaker 1: back the keys of their building because they couldn't refinance. 289 00:14:54,897 --> 00:14:57,697 Speaker 1: I mean, so you're you're starting to see the cracks 290 00:14:57,697 --> 00:15:00,217 Speaker 1: in the dam. The dam hasn't cracked completely yet, the 291 00:15:00,257 --> 00:15:03,857 Speaker 1: water isn't flowing, but we're at the point now where 292 00:15:03,897 --> 00:15:07,457 Speaker 1: you're starting to see major buildings get defaulted on, or 293 00:15:07,577 --> 00:15:09,697 Speaker 1: just the older the owners handing back the keys to 294 00:15:10,137 --> 00:15:11,417 Speaker 1: the lending institutions. 295 00:15:11,697 --> 00:15:14,097 Speaker 2: I want to come back and ask you, Joe, if 296 00:15:14,137 --> 00:15:17,057 Speaker 2: I made you the King of New York, which arguably 297 00:15:17,057 --> 00:15:18,777 Speaker 2: you are, But if I made you the king of 298 00:15:18,817 --> 00:15:21,497 Speaker 2: New York and you had to fix the place, and 299 00:15:21,537 --> 00:15:24,897 Speaker 2: you could just do whatever you needed to do to 300 00:15:24,977 --> 00:15:27,537 Speaker 2: fix it, to make it the greatest city in America, 301 00:15:27,617 --> 00:15:29,137 Speaker 2: which I think, at least for a period of my 302 00:15:29,177 --> 00:15:31,097 Speaker 2: life I lived in, which I do believe it was 303 00:15:31,137 --> 00:15:33,377 Speaker 2: for a while the greatest city in America. 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It essentially would have been the zeldn plan. 332 00:16:51,337 --> 00:16:53,017 Speaker 1: You know, I was very close to when still am 333 00:16:53,057 --> 00:16:55,777 Speaker 1: with Lee Zelden, and we ran a pretty good campaign 334 00:16:55,977 --> 00:17:00,297 Speaker 1: where he almost actually won and became governor. His plan 335 00:17:00,417 --> 00:17:02,497 Speaker 1: started with public safety, and so would mine. I mean 336 00:17:02,577 --> 00:17:06,457 Speaker 1: public safety is paramount to getting people back into their offices. 337 00:17:06,577 --> 00:17:08,737 Speaker 1: By the way, people are not not going to offices 338 00:17:08,777 --> 00:17:11,377 Speaker 1: in Manhattan because they don't want you. It's partially because 339 00:17:11,377 --> 00:17:13,337 Speaker 1: they don't feel safe. So the first thing we have 340 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:16,617 Speaker 1: to do is repeal cashless bail. We have to repeal 341 00:17:16,657 --> 00:17:20,297 Speaker 1: most of the criminal justice provisions that were voted on 342 00:17:20,377 --> 00:17:23,977 Speaker 1: over the last ten years that said we have to 343 00:17:23,977 --> 00:17:27,097 Speaker 1: make real estate valuable in New York City. Again, we 344 00:17:27,177 --> 00:17:29,697 Speaker 1: have to make sure the industry is solid, and you 345 00:17:29,817 --> 00:17:32,497 Speaker 1: do that by giving, you know, old fashioned tax breaks. 346 00:17:32,537 --> 00:17:34,657 Speaker 1: The governor and the legislature couldn't come up with a 347 00:17:34,657 --> 00:17:36,857 Speaker 1: great agreement this year to extend some of the tax 348 00:17:36,897 --> 00:17:40,097 Speaker 1: abatements that a lot of these developers needed to continue 349 00:17:40,137 --> 00:17:43,577 Speaker 1: building the skyscrapers and apartment buildings that New York Is need. 350 00:17:43,697 --> 00:17:47,257 Speaker 1: So it's an interesting catch twenty two where on the 351 00:17:47,257 --> 00:17:50,137 Speaker 1: finance side we have to spur some growth, we also 352 00:17:50,177 --> 00:17:52,257 Speaker 1: need to lower our business taxes. I mean, right now 353 00:17:52,297 --> 00:17:55,017 Speaker 1: we're losing companies. Forget the people that'll leave it right 354 00:17:55,537 --> 00:17:58,057 Speaker 1: I might leave because the weather's nice, but JP Morgan 355 00:17:58,177 --> 00:18:01,457 Speaker 1: just went to the Dallas Metro because of the tax 356 00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:04,857 Speaker 1: structure and the business climate of Texas, So we'd have 357 00:18:04,937 --> 00:18:07,337 Speaker 1: to reform that as well, if we could do that, 358 00:18:08,177 --> 00:18:10,057 Speaker 1: and I think we do. I really do think New 359 00:18:10,057 --> 00:18:13,097 Speaker 1: New York is poised for the pendulum to start swinging back. 360 00:18:13,457 --> 00:18:15,017 Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's going to happen in 361 00:18:15,057 --> 00:18:17,417 Speaker 1: my say, political lifetime, but I bet you by the 362 00:18:17,417 --> 00:18:20,097 Speaker 1: time I have grandkids, New York will be in full 363 00:18:20,097 --> 00:18:23,377 Speaker 1: swing again. It took you mentioned the nineteen nineties before. Remember, 364 00:18:23,417 --> 00:18:25,937 Speaker 1: crime was really bad in the late seventies, early eighties, 365 00:18:25,977 --> 00:18:28,697 Speaker 1: and it took about, you know, five or six years 366 00:18:28,697 --> 00:18:31,537 Speaker 1: for things to really level off going into ninety nine, 367 00:18:31,577 --> 00:18:32,977 Speaker 1: two thousand, two thousand and one. 368 00:18:33,937 --> 00:18:37,937 Speaker 2: What are the biggest areas of the city budget in 369 00:18:37,937 --> 00:18:40,057 Speaker 2: New York that you're just like, what the heck are 370 00:18:40,097 --> 00:18:40,537 Speaker 2: we doing? 371 00:18:42,057 --> 00:18:44,057 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I would have to say the Department 372 00:18:44,057 --> 00:18:46,657 Speaker 1: of Education, I mean our Department of Education. And my 373 00:18:46,697 --> 00:18:48,977 Speaker 1: wife's a teacher, and God blessed the work, and some 374 00:18:49,057 --> 00:18:52,177 Speaker 1: of them do. But we spend more per child than 375 00:18:52,217 --> 00:18:55,657 Speaker 1: any other system by far. And I don't mean like 376 00:18:55,737 --> 00:18:59,337 Speaker 1: we spend ten percent more five percent. We spend about 377 00:18:59,377 --> 00:19:02,537 Speaker 1: triple what say the private school systems here in New 378 00:19:02,577 --> 00:19:05,697 Speaker 1: York spend on average the Catholic schools, for example, educated 379 00:19:05,737 --> 00:19:07,537 Speaker 1: kids for about seven or eight thousand a year. In 380 00:19:07,577 --> 00:19:10,297 Speaker 1: elementary school we're up to twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty 381 00:19:10,377 --> 00:19:13,497 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars per year, So that is the biggest 382 00:19:13,537 --> 00:19:15,977 Speaker 1: vacuum of city spending. A lot of it has to 383 00:19:15,977 --> 00:19:17,777 Speaker 1: do with the age of some of our school buildings. 384 00:19:17,817 --> 00:19:20,017 Speaker 1: We have, you know, twelve hundred school buildings in New 385 00:19:20,097 --> 00:19:21,537 Speaker 1: York City. A lot of them are are one hundred 386 00:19:21,617 --> 00:19:23,537 Speaker 1: years old. So there is going to be some capital 387 00:19:23,577 --> 00:19:27,857 Speaker 1: needs for keeping the system itself going. But this cost 388 00:19:27,897 --> 00:19:30,857 Speaker 1: per spending is probably astronomical. And then you can look 389 00:19:30,897 --> 00:19:33,177 Speaker 1: at any agency. I mean, the NYPD spends more money 390 00:19:33,217 --> 00:19:35,777 Speaker 1: than North Korea, but would I wouldn't say we should 391 00:19:35,777 --> 00:19:39,177 Speaker 1: cut that. So even though New York is so big, 392 00:19:39,617 --> 00:19:42,697 Speaker 1: we have to approach cuts with a scalpel. And by 393 00:19:42,737 --> 00:19:45,497 Speaker 1: the way, you know, the budget growth of one percent 394 00:19:45,537 --> 00:19:47,857 Speaker 1: two percent a year is falling in a city like 395 00:19:47,937 --> 00:19:49,817 Speaker 1: New York that for the last twenty years was able 396 00:19:49,857 --> 00:19:51,897 Speaker 1: to meet that with regular old growth. We haven't really 397 00:19:52,017 --> 00:19:55,057 Speaker 1: raised taxes. Taxes are high, we haven't raised them. It's 398 00:19:55,057 --> 00:19:58,057 Speaker 1: only recently with this migrant crisis and sort of the 399 00:19:58,097 --> 00:20:01,497 Speaker 1: out of control pension and liability, pension and healthcare spending 400 00:20:01,537 --> 00:20:04,377 Speaker 1: that that we've been put in this fiscal problem. 401 00:20:04,577 --> 00:20:05,977 Speaker 2: I want to ask you to tell me a little 402 00:20:06,017 --> 00:20:09,017 Speaker 2: bit of Staten Island history to close us out here 403 00:20:09,017 --> 00:20:11,377 Speaker 2: in a second, mister Joe Burdh, because Joe, oh, my god, 404 00:20:11,617 --> 00:20:14,377 Speaker 2: has written a book on the history of the great 405 00:20:14,377 --> 00:20:17,657 Speaker 2: island known as the Staten My understanding was that Stton 406 00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:19,457 Speaker 2: Aims were the British like to hang out when they 407 00:20:19,457 --> 00:20:22,897 Speaker 2: were trying to crush George Washington and the Patriots. 408 00:20:23,017 --> 00:20:25,057 Speaker 1: Oh sure, as heck I mean, so I'll give you 409 00:20:25,097 --> 00:20:27,777 Speaker 1: two fun facts about State is Ale history. And by 410 00:20:27,777 --> 00:20:29,777 Speaker 1: the way, I wrote one book, but my publisher made 411 00:20:29,817 --> 00:20:31,977 Speaker 1: it two books, so you can go on Amazon and 412 00:20:32,017 --> 00:20:34,057 Speaker 1: buy and I get a buck of books. So hopefully 413 00:20:34,097 --> 00:20:37,497 Speaker 1: the audience buys a couple but so fun fact about 414 00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:40,577 Speaker 1: the American Revolution. If people like the show Turn it 415 00:20:40,617 --> 00:20:42,617 Speaker 1: was on AMC. It was a great show about the 416 00:20:42,617 --> 00:20:45,897 Speaker 1: American Revolution and the spy network. That spy network really 417 00:20:45,977 --> 00:20:48,297 Speaker 1: happened on Staten Island, and one of the main characters 418 00:20:48,337 --> 00:20:50,897 Speaker 1: was Lieutenant Simcoe. He was the sort of the evil 419 00:20:51,897 --> 00:20:55,337 Speaker 1: antagonist of the show. If you're on the eleventh tee 420 00:20:55,417 --> 00:20:58,297 Speaker 1: at Latarette Golf Course, it's a very high elevated tea 421 00:20:58,377 --> 00:21:01,337 Speaker 1: on top of a hill. You're actually teeing off on 422 00:21:01,417 --> 00:21:04,497 Speaker 1: top of a redoubt that was construction constructed by the 423 00:21:04,537 --> 00:21:07,817 Speaker 1: British in seventeen seventy seven, So it's a one hundred 424 00:21:07,897 --> 00:21:11,297 Speaker 1: year old burm that you're basically playing off your tea. 425 00:21:11,337 --> 00:21:14,177 Speaker 1: And if you're playing at Silver Lake Golf Course on 426 00:21:14,217 --> 00:21:17,577 Speaker 1: the eighteenth fairway, you're actually trampling over the graves of 427 00:21:17,657 --> 00:21:21,257 Speaker 1: ten thousand Irish and German people who were killed by typhoid, 428 00:21:21,297 --> 00:21:24,737 Speaker 1: fever and scurvy and god knows what else they brought 429 00:21:24,777 --> 00:21:27,457 Speaker 1: with them over as they came across the ocean to 430 00:21:27,657 --> 00:21:31,377 Speaker 1: come to New York. So macabre history for New York City, goth. 431 00:21:31,977 --> 00:21:34,097 Speaker 2: What's the name of the book or the books? 432 00:21:34,657 --> 00:21:37,137 Speaker 1: So revolutionary Staten Island is the first one, and then 433 00:21:37,137 --> 00:21:39,417 Speaker 1: Staten Island the nineteenth century is the second one. The 434 00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:41,577 Speaker 1: first one's better. It's you got more gore, more killing, 435 00:21:41,617 --> 00:21:42,297 Speaker 1: stuff like that. 436 00:21:42,937 --> 00:21:45,737 Speaker 2: Very good, mister Joe Borelli, Sage of Staten Island. Great 437 00:21:45,737 --> 00:21:47,217 Speaker 2: to have you on, sir, Thanks so much. 438 00:21:47,497 --> 00:21:48,137 Speaker 1: Thank you. Book