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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's Giants. Giants give me some part of the Giants

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Speaker 1: podcast Networks. It's time to look at the safeties on

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Little podcast brought to you by Citizens, the

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Speaker 1: official bank of the New York Football Giants. A fun

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Speaker 1: group for the Giants this year. Guy like Jason Pinnock's

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Speaker 1: for turning a rookie and Tyler Newban veteran like Jalen Mills.

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Speaker 1: A lot of players at the position that should be

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Speaker 1: very entertaining, including a name you might not think would

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Speaker 1: be involved in the safety position, but you'll see as

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Speaker 1: we get through this podcast. And now we're joined by

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Speaker 1: a Giant safety, Dame Belton Dan. Thanks for being with us, man, oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. So you have a chance

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Speaker 1: in the OTAs right now to be running with the

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Speaker 1: ones next to Jason Pinnock. How do you think that's gone?

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Speaker 3: That's going well, you know, just picking up new scheme,

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Speaker 3: you know, going out there making plays, having fun with

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Speaker 3: the guys is going well.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the new scheme, you do have a new

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Speaker 1: defensive core in there. But Jerom Henderson still here, so

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Speaker 1: how has he helped ease that transition where he's probably

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Speaker 1: still learning how to translate the wing stuff to the

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Speaker 1: you know, new defensive coordinator stuff. Has he been very

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Speaker 1: helpful helping you guys kind of integrate what you've done

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Speaker 1: into this new system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, him and Mike both, you know,

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Speaker 3: with the DBS, my trayer, just being able to u

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Speaker 3: you know, have that you know, familiarity with the coach

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Speaker 3: that we've been you know the past two years and

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Speaker 3: knowing that you know, what we came from and how

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Speaker 3: we're gonna you know, kind of change or carry some

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Speaker 3: things over into this news team.

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Speaker 2: It's been good.

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Speaker 1: It's been helpful, and I know there's a lot of change,

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Speaker 1: right you know wink. You guys were in single high,

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Speaker 1: a ton a lot of man demand. Sometimes there were

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Speaker 1: no safety d if you're on cover zero, right, I

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Speaker 1: feel like the new defensive coordinator chain bowing a lot

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Speaker 3: Stuff, right, Yeah, yeah, definitely more too high, you know,

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Speaker 3: but even in that, you know, still being aggressive, you know,

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Speaker 3: not just people think too high. You think you know, conservative,

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Speaker 3: don't you know, being don't break, But you know, at

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Speaker 3: the same time, we're still going to be aggressive match

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Speaker 3: a couple of months, it's been good and you know

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Speaker 3: you kind of see, you know, how Tennessee was a

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Speaker 1: Is this more defined roles for the safety in this

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Speaker 1: is this a deal we're based on formation. Both guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still versatile. You know, both safeties have to

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Speaker 1: I feel like this system will put you guys in

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Speaker 1: position to read the quarterback right and you know, you're

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. For a guy like you who's

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Speaker 1: does that benefit you where you're able to try to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think it does benefit And you know,

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Speaker 1: Now you've mentioned a couple of times already. I know

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Speaker 3: you know, it's definitely like you know, after a couple

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Speaker 1: I gotta imagine there's a lot of communication in the

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Speaker 3: It's really getting everyone on the same page. You know,

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Speaker 3: I got this guy, I got that guy. When you're

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Speaker 1: You're a rookie, Tyler Nuban. In the room, everyone I've

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Speaker 1: You probably have no way to answer that, but I'll

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Speaker 1: ask the question anyway. Why do you think you even

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Speaker 1: knack forget your hands on the football? It seems like

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Speaker 1: you know, you find your way to the football. How

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I just want I would say, lean on

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Speaker 1: Anything particularly you're trying to get better at this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just continuing you know with obviously learning new defense,

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Speaker 3: continuing just fundamentals a lot of things, especially coming out

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Speaker 1: Can see Dan appreciate it. Man a prety sure too.

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Speaker 1: All right, and now we're joined by Giants rookie safety

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Speaker 1: Tyler Nwban Tyler. What's up man?

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Speaker 4: Not much? Man, lucky, happy to be out here, bro.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you've been about two months as a Giant.

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Speaker 1: What's it been like.

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Speaker 4: It's been surreal, bro.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, he's being able to come in here, go to

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Speaker 5: work every day, see New York Football Giants on the

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Speaker 4: Man, it brings you life. So you know, I'm lucky

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Speaker 4: to be here, man, blessed.

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Speaker 1: So I had a chance a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: they were raving to me about your work ethic in

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Speaker 1: what has it been trying to learn your first NFL defense?

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Speaker 4: It's been challenging.

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Speaker 5: It's obviously, you know, it's a different game than college,

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Speaker 5: But it's been awesome. It's been real fun learning from

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Speaker 4: So it's been awesome.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference like drinking out for me? What's different

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Speaker 2: Doing in Minnesota?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, I feel like the main difference is,

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody's here for a different reason.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like you can get a lot you know,

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Speaker 1: Now as someone that I know takes pride in watching

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that made me really excited, honestly, just being able

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Speaker 4: It's not going to really change that much from week

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously it's gonna change from you know, team

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Speaker 4: So that's that's that's really exciting, a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of split safety stuff in this defense, right. So

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Speaker 1: I was been like trying to learn all those different spots,

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Speaker 1: What has it been trying to learn all those different

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been it's been difficult, but I mean I

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Speaker 1: And I think some opportunities with them for some three

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I've been blessed.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing good. This is your second

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Speaker 1: I guess that's is that a little disappointing that you

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Speaker 8: Uh, it can get it can get challenging, but it's

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Speaker 1: Is this more similar to the type of stuff you

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Speaker 2: But what safety is right, most most death.

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Speaker 1: What is it you like about the system that'll help

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Speaker 1: For you, you were game day. Some games get a jersey,

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Speaker 8: I would just say, you know, uh, film study and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, special Team is gonna be really important for

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Speaker 1: Little little bit. I think you're right about that.

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Speaker 4: But it could be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, Good luck this summer bless. Now we're joined

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man? Great?

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Speaker 1: Great, awesome man. Talk about the system. What has been

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Speaker 9: It's been really dope, dope experience, you know, learning something

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Speaker 9: you always you you learn more than what you thought

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Speaker 1: So eyes on the quarterback. That's something that the dbs

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Speaker 2: That's get you paid in this lead. You want to

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Speaker 1: And that's a lot of mental prep too, right, There's

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Speaker 9: you got a lot of guys who just they played all,

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Speaker 9: you know, and it's not not too much studying going on.

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Speaker 9: But you can know in five minutes of a conversation

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Speaker 9: it's a guy who knows ball, you know, a guy

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Speaker 9: who watches a lot of film and he understands the pieces, uh,

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Speaker 9: specific coverages.

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Speaker 2: And what officers are trying to do to him.

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Speaker 1: So finally, smart kid, finally, sorry for but finally for

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Speaker 1: you personally in this system. Now, what's the next step

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Speaker 1: for Jason Pinnock? Where do you want to kind of

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Speaker 1: take that next step in and become a better playmate, make.

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Speaker 9: A pro bowl who knows exactly, not for sure. That's

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Speaker 9: the goal, that's the goal. But the two bowls, that's

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Speaker 9: always the goes, you know, two bowls. But it's the ball.

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Speaker 9: It's the ball. The same smile you kept getting from

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Speaker 9: all the DB's. That's that's that is the biggest thing

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Speaker 9: with this defense. We're gonna be able to get our

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Speaker 9: hands on the ball and show that we can shift

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Speaker 9: shift momentums of games. You know, so looking forward to it, are.

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Speaker 1: You willing to trade that for maybe fewer chances blitzing

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Speaker 1: and getting sacks?

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Speaker 2: Throw a tough one at me. I do love. I

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Speaker 2: do love getting to that quarterback. I do. But yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: our death me rather some minute sessions.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff man the time. Dude.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, you love turf. You're good at it.

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Speaker 7: So you started turf business, grows, your savings grow, become

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Speaker 7: the most celebrated name in terf. Are you ready for

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Speaker 7: all that life brings?

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by giants, I'm gonna say, defensive player

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, who was my first question. It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: What meeting room are you in? I did try to

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Speaker 1: figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 6: This year I've been I've been taking on this year

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Speaker 6: with the defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that fits what you do well

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Speaker 1: in this system?

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Speaker 6: You know, I feel like i've I've had most of

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Speaker 6: my success, uh, you know, from the dB room, just

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Speaker 6: from my previous years with Arizona. Most of my success

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Speaker 6: definitely came from me being in the dB room and

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Speaker 6: just talking with Shane and how his defense is. You know,

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Speaker 6: we felt as as if that was be the best

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Speaker 6: fit and most effective thing for us.

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Speaker 1: No defensive back in safety is pretty broad, right, Safety

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Speaker 1: is gonna have a lot of different roles. You can

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Speaker 1: be a single eye, you can be a split deep,

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Speaker 1: you can be a box safety, you can be a

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Speaker 1: slot safety. Right, So do you see yourself in a

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Speaker 1: specific role within that group or do you think you're

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Speaker 1: a guy that can train up in all those different areas?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean most definitely, I think I can train

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Speaker 6: up in all those different areas. But I think mainly

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Speaker 6: I'll I most likely probably attack the slot a little

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Speaker 6: bit more this year. Like I said, just how Shane's

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Speaker 6: defense is, It's almost like, you know, I'm kind of

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Speaker 6: like a perfect match for what he likes to do.

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Speaker 6: So that was something I was really really encouraging, you know,

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Speaker 6: just to go over him with and talk to and

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Speaker 6: go talk to him about.

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Speaker 1: In what ways and why do you think you're a

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Speaker 1: perfect match for his system?

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Speaker 6: Just how he likes to use his slots, you know,

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Speaker 6: implemented in like the run game, how he blitzes just

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Speaker 6: like spot drop type of defense matchups. He likes to

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Speaker 6: play his play you know, his slots against tight ends

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Speaker 6: as well. So you know that'll be something that's beneficial.

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Speaker 1: Knowing you're I mean I studied you a lot coming

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Speaker 1: out in the draft and knowing your size, your athleticism,

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Speaker 1: I see it almost like a you have tight end

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Speaker 1: the raser like in your like tool set. I feel

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Speaker 1: do you feel like that that's a good role for

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Speaker 1: You'll be able to kind of take tight ends out

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Speaker 1: of thinking given your size, length and speed. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you know, we had a lot of

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Speaker 6: success last year with me covering tight ends.

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Speaker 4: Uh wish he was able to do it a little

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Speaker 4: bit more, but yeah, I do.

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Speaker 6: I definitely think that, you know, that's something that I

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Speaker 6: can be and you know will be so really looking

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Speaker 6: forward to that.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta imagine if you are in that slot

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Speaker 1: role right and you know you almost could play that

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Speaker 1: third safety role there when you want to play a

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Speaker 1: bigger nickel, right, if you want to be in sub

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Speaker 1: but it's an early down, they might run it. That

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Speaker 1: seems like a great spot for you because you're big

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Speaker 1: enough to run support. But then they release somebody in

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Speaker 1: you have to speak to cover them as well.

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Speaker 6: Exactly. And you know a lot of teams now, you know,

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Speaker 6: they put in bigger personnels with other ball now, so

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Speaker 6: they want.

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Speaker 1: To play action you and get your mismatches exactly exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that'd be a really good spot

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Speaker 1: for you. What has it been like trying to learn

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Speaker 1: his system and figure out exactly how he's going to

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Speaker 1: use you.

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Speaker 4: It's been it's been good.

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Speaker 6: I pick up playbooks fairly easy, so it's kind of

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Speaker 6: second nature to me. So it's been. It's been good.

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Speaker 6: Learning Shane's defense. I feel like I learned it very fast,

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Speaker 6: very well. And now I think now it's just you know,

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Speaker 6: finding all the little nuances and and critiquing the fine

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Speaker 6: details with that are inside of it to really help everybody,

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Speaker 6: you know, just go to the next level. I think

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Speaker 6: that's really where I'm at, and really everyone's as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see it. Isaia, good stuff, man,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time, dude. Thank you. Now we're drawing about

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Speaker 1: one of the Giants' newest defensive backs, Jalen Mills. Jaleen,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 2: Very good about yourself.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. So how has it been trying to

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Speaker 1: learn everything you need to learn here with the Giants

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of months?

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Speaker 10: Going really really smooth, feeling really confident and uh, having fun. Man,

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Speaker 10: at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: How similar is this defensive system to what you've done

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Speaker 1: in different spots in the past.

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Speaker 2: Very similar.

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Speaker 10: Safeties are in control of the defense, making all the chicks,

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Speaker 10: making sure guys are getting lined up and getting ready

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Speaker 10: to go and play fast.

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Speaker 1: And everyone that has been here that's in the secondary

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Speaker 1: is said to me on the quarterback and that team

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Speaker 1: tends to get defensive backs excited.

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Speaker 10: Why Yeah, For one, this pass rust that we have,

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Speaker 10: you know, you know that quarterback, if he holds onto it,

568
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Speaker 10: he's gonna be two things good for them the d line,

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Speaker 10: or are good for us the secondary because whether they're

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Speaker 10: sacking him or the quarterbacks making a mistake and we're

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Speaker 10: able to make plays unball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I gotta imagine too that especially for a

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Speaker 1: VET like you, this type of defense favors guys that

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Speaker 1: know how to watch tape, knows how to anticipate, So

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Speaker 1: when you're watching that quarterback, you're a step ahead, right,

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Speaker 1: holms Born. Has it been for you as a VET

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Speaker 1: to try to get that across as some of the

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Speaker 1: young guys that maybe haven't been around the block a

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Speaker 1: couple of.

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Speaker 10: Times, Yeah, I mean, I think it's very important. I

581
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Speaker 10: was once a young guy asking those questions how to

582
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Speaker 10: watch film, you know, what to look at in certain

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Speaker 10: formations and things like that. And now me being a

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Speaker 10: veteran guy in the room, having those young guys come

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Speaker 10: to ask me those questions and you know, just seeing

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Speaker 10: them translated from the meeting room and going out to

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Speaker 10: the film room and making plays, Man's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: So you got two guys here that are rookies, and

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Speaker 1: Phillips and Tyler who have been You've played both positions, you,

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Speaker 1: so you kind of know what these guys are. Kind

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Speaker 1: of getting into a little bit talk about each one,

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Speaker 1: what you've seen from them and what you think they're

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Speaker 1: upside is.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I start with Drew. Very athletic guy,

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Speaker 10: very shifty, very quick, very detailed in his work as well.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm always seeing him, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 10: the ones, twos or three is on the field. You know,

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Speaker 10: he's asking questions, how he goes about his work. It's

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Speaker 10: almost like, you know, he's he's comfortable. He's getting back comfortable,

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Speaker 10: and that's what you want to see from young guys.

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Speaker 10: And then when we're talking about nude, I mean, very

602
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Speaker 10: vocal guy. You know, you can tell that he ran

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Speaker 10: his defense in college and you know he's trying to

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Speaker 10: bring that here now, and that's what you want. You

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Speaker 10: want guys come in, even though they're young or not,

606
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Speaker 10: you know, come in and be confident.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, jail. Hey, I appreciate the time, man, best luck

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Speaker 1: this summer due, Thank you man, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a safety position of the Giants Little podcast,

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Speaker 1: including Isaiah Simmons. Hope you enjoyed it, everybody. I'm John

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