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Speaker 2: Samuel Front of San Francisco forty nine is in.

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Speaker 3: This is the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Report, EVO.

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Speaker 4: Looks real relaxed you just sitting there. We entered the

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Speaker 4: divisional round. James Palmer, Steve White with you on the

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Speaker 4: NFL Report. A slammed show Today. All pro quarterback from

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs Trent McDuffie.

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Speaker 2: Joins the show.

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Speaker 4: Former Falcons general manager and former Patriots scout Thomas de

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Speaker 4: Mitchroff also joins the show. Baldy's Favorite films breaking down

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Speaker 4: everything you need to know Steven the postseason, as well

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Speaker 4: as Judy Batista telling us everything we need to know

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Speaker 4: about Bill Belichick to the Falcons. This is weird, though, Steve.

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Speaker 4: This isn't where I normally see you.

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Speaker 3: What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm in my hotel room over in Honolulu, JP.

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Speaker 5: You know there's no NFL team. Oh here, I'm as

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Speaker 5: you see right here, the Polynesian Bowl. It's be broadcast

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Speaker 5: Friday evening on NFL Network. It is the greatest collection

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Speaker 5: of high school football stars All Star Game. Dylan Rayola,

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Speaker 5: the number one quarterback in the country, the son of

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Speaker 5: Dominic Raiola, who decommitted from Georgia right to go to

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Speaker 5: Nebraska where his father played.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be the big highlight of the game.

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Speaker 5: But some of the best players in high school football

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Speaker 5: who are going to matriculate to the NFL. We've seen

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Speaker 5: guys like Talano, Hufanga, Hohoka Nakua, so many guys who've

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Speaker 5: played in this game. For Jean Robinson go to the

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Speaker 5: NFL from fired up, I'll be on the call with

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Speaker 5: Cadoa Lahea. But JB, let's get to this wildcard weekend

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Speaker 5: because the one thing you see with the remaining teams

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Speaker 5: is kind of you have a healthy quarterback, you played

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Speaker 5: most of the season, You had a good shot to

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Speaker 5: get to this point.

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Speaker 3: What quarterback matchup?

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Speaker 5: Because they're so good this weekend really intrigued you the most.

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Speaker 4: Steve, there is one quarterback matchup that we all should

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Speaker 4: be focused on. It is the new Tom Brady versus

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Speaker 4: Peyton Manning. It is Josh Allen versus Patrick Mahomes. So

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Speaker 4: the first time in the postseason on the road for Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: I've covered this game. I think I've covered almost every

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Speaker 4: single matchup that they've had outside.

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Speaker 2: Of the one.

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Speaker 4: God the Mahomes played up there in Orchard Park. It

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Speaker 4: was during COVID, no fans there, so he is getting

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Speaker 4: his first experience playing on the road in Buffalo in

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Speaker 4: this game. Now, what I find fascinating about this is

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Speaker 4: they are both just dynamite quarterbacks, but what they're doing

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Speaker 4: right now with both teams are I feel like it's

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Speaker 4: the word resiliency Steve, And that's not usually what you

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Speaker 4: would think of when you think of the Bills and

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs over the last couple of years, but that's

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Speaker 4: where they're both at right now. With the Bills have

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Speaker 4: as red hot as they are, with Josh Allen putting

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, on the other hand, has been utilizing his.

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Speaker 2: Defense, his run game.

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Speaker 4: When I talked to coaches in Kansas City, they say

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Speaker 4: his adaptability this year is the number one trait that

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Speaker 4: lot to where it's okay Steve to take the check down,

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Speaker 4: postseason and protect it a different mentality. But we talked

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Speaker 4: the formula for the Chiefs. That's why I find this fascinating.

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Speaker 4: They're not playing like we've seen them both play in

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Speaker 3: And that's okay, and JP the one thing that's I've

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Speaker 5: We talk about it so much with Josh Allen and

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Speaker 5: Later with JP. How could I not go with my

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Speaker 3: Okay, I see the face, But here's why.

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Speaker 5: Jordan Love of the Green Bay Packers is playing better

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Speaker 5: He's making plays as you're seeing right here against Dallas

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Speaker 5: But if Green Bay can run the balls, there's somewhat

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Speaker 5: to my guy Brock. Perty Look after that four interception

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Speaker 1: JP.

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Speaker 3: This isn't just a dink and donk quarterback. This is

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Speaker 5: Coming up next the Detroit Lions, I mean a team

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Speaker 5: And the Tampa Bay Buccaneers looked really good and destroying

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Speaker 4: I'll let you handle Detroit because I want to go

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Speaker 4: where maybe there's not enough credit.

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Speaker 2: Steve, we talked about the tones of the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 4: I think we could say also, this Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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Speaker 4: a sneaky interesting matchup and a sneaky potential upset.

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Speaker 2: Possibly Steve or it really good Buccaneers.

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Speaker 5: And we're gonna have Brian Baldinger on later to talk

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Speaker 5: This is gonna be a fun game, and I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I think the Buccaneers not be underestimated. Really, JP. We

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Speaker 4: I would say, Steve, it's kind of the two guys

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Speaker 3: Favorite, and I'm one hundred scent way you with the

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Speaker 5: And this is where to me, the NFC is a

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Speaker 5: at Levi's Well, JP, you know what coming up next?

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Speaker 5: We just talked about slot corners, right, I talked about

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Speaker 5: Brian Branch. We've got the first team all post slot corner.

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Speaker 5: That's the Chiefs trying to be joining us. Oh, JP,

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Speaker 5: this is gonna be good. Don't be anywhere.

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Speaker 6: Love back after the break for the nflbum.

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Speaker 1: They just like the Bahamas.

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Speaker 7: Huh Hey, great job, probaty guys.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you have your cell phones.

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Speaker 7: We'll let you know. You know when we're playing. Make

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Speaker 7: sure you take care of yourself. If you're nicked up,

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Speaker 7: let's get taken care of. We get ourselves back in

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Speaker 7: there and get ready to go. Oh how beautiful is

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Speaker 7: this man? How about those gotta love it? Gotta love it?

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Speaker 1: Hey, for real, take care of your body this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're ready to go next week.

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Speaker 1: We ain't done so chase something.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back into the NFL report, James Palmer, Steve Whites

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Speaker 4: with you and we have.

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Speaker 2: All pro Steve Yeah. Back of the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie, Trent I gotta ask you to start off

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Speaker 4: What do you feel like the slot corner spot actually

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Speaker 8: Yeah, kind of like you said, I feel like this

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Speaker 8: like it's starting to get more recognition because, I mean,

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Speaker 8: I mean, they expect a lot out of us. So

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Speaker 8: just that recognition, I always say, is a big blessing

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Speaker 3: Well, Frank, congrats on that and this week.

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Speaker 5: I mean, your role, as we saw the first time

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Speaker 5: they like to work the middle of the field with

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Speaker 5: their tight ends to kind of slip cook out there

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Speaker 3: The first time you played.

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Speaker 5: I mean how much I'll put it this way, what

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Speaker 8: Right yeah. I mean whenever you play a quarterback that

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Speaker 8: like you said, we can't just as a defender. I

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Speaker 8: really good job at gating the ballots and receivers and

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Speaker 8: they've been fishing, especially after playing us, they've gone a

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Speaker 4: Truent With that said, you guys are so versatile specifically

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Speaker 2: With what you're saying about what Josh does in the

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Speaker 4: I don't give anything away, but like you have the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's huge what you said. I feel

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Speaker 8: So Spag's definitely does a great job at giving different disguises,

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Speaker 3: So definitely, just the.

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Speaker 8: Movement wise in the back end on the front end,

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of glad you ran on that roster for

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean I think that dude is probably top two,

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Speaker 3: I mean when you look at.

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Speaker 8: Somebody who every week literally goes out there guards the

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Speaker 8: I mean, he comes in each and every day practice

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Speaker 8: I mean, when you're a guy like that who's to

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Speaker 8: Let's focus on these guys over here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tryed, I got to bring this up.

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Speaker 4: We gotta look, we're looking forward in the division round,

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Speaker 4: but I gotta look back real quick.

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Speaker 2: When you guys were in the film room.

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Speaker 4: And you watch him jam Tyreek Hill with the line

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Speaker 8: I mean, you already know, guys were who in the

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Speaker 5: Even had to get praised because he was just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 5: But you know, defensively, we're talking so much about your defense.

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Speaker 5: What about the change and identity of this team, because

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Speaker 3: What about that identity change?

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Speaker 5: And how much you guys kind of walk around like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it just goes back to our off

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Speaker 8: Everybody was like that wasn't our best showing. So all

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Speaker 8: I feel like has been so huge for us this year.

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Speaker 8: And I keep saying, where a defense that knows what

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Speaker 8: I mean, our offense is explosive, and so being able

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Speaker 4: Trent, I'm curious to take us back to training camp

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Speaker 8: They just put their head down and work. And he's

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Speaker 3: Well till we got we got to wrap up.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to have this conversation all day, but look,

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Speaker 5: we know you're going from one ice box last week

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Speaker 5: in Kansas City to another in Buffalo. Want to wish

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Speaker 8: I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: We are back at the NFL Report and James one

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Speaker 5: of our favorite people, NFL media insider Judy Bautista.

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Speaker 3: And Judy, let's get right to it.

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is going into his second interview with the

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Speaker 5: Atlanta Falcons. We've heard for weeks that this was a

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Speaker 5: likely union. It seems like it's getting likelier, doesn't it.

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Speaker 9: It does certainly. The fact that he's having a second

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Speaker 9: interview and that there are going to be more members

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Speaker 9: of of the Falcons brain trust in the room for

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Speaker 9: this second go around suggests, you know, everything is pointing

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Speaker 9: towards this. I wish we could be flies on the

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Speaker 9: wall for an interview. What is an interview a job interview?

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Speaker 9: With Bill Belichick, I feel like he.

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Speaker 10: Is probably interviewing them as much as they are interviewing him.

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Speaker 10: But I think, you know, getting more of the members

455
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Speaker 10: of the senior management in the room is important because

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Speaker 10: so much of this with Belichick is going to be

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Speaker 10: about fit and structure and who's going to be responsible.

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Speaker 2: For what, and what is his role going to be,

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Speaker 2: how big is his role?

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Speaker 9: And so I think having you know, Rich McKay in

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Speaker 9: there and others in the room with Arthur and Bill

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Speaker 9: is really important to make sure everybody's comfortable with how

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Speaker 9: it's going to be, because clearly at the Patriots it

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Speaker 9: ran its course with Bill having as much power as

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Speaker 9: he did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm upset that I won't give the proper credit

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Speaker 4: to who tweeted this, but it was a great tweet

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Speaker 4: out to the first interview that somebody put out, Like

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Speaker 4: a scenario in the interview with Bill Belichick would have

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Speaker 4: been Arthur Blank asking him was there a time where

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Speaker 4: you overcame an unsurmountable sense.

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Speaker 2: Of adversity before in the past, Bill, can.

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Speaker 4: You Bill can say yes, I can remember a certain

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Speaker 4: time where I was with what's happening in Atlanta right now, Judy,

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Speaker 4: I'm curious if your thought is we waited to hear

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Speaker 4: what was happening with Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Does Bill being potentially unavailable maybe push Jerry Jones in

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Speaker 4: the decision that he made to keep Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 9: You know, I hope we somehow we someday get the

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Speaker 9: timeline of events because our great friend and colleague Jane Slater,

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Speaker 9: I think, reported earlier today on The Insiders that it

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Speaker 9: sounded to her like Jerry had not even looked around

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Speaker 9: in these last few days, that it was all about

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Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy, and considering that, you know that he hadn't

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Speaker 9: put a line in the water to see who might

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Speaker 9: be interested in the job.

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Speaker 2: I'll just tell you this.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I was in Foxborough yesterday for girod Mayo's introduction,

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Speaker 9: and the conversation there was, you know, how soon is

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Speaker 9: Bill going to Dallas? I mean, that was just everybody's

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Speaker 9: default assumption that you know that Dallas would be open,

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Speaker 9: and that that would be where Bill was going to

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Speaker 9: go because Jerry and Bill have have had a good

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Speaker 9: relationship over the year, so you sort of put those

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Speaker 9: things together, and maybe maybe it was never going to

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Speaker 9: be put together. I hope we will someday get the

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Speaker 9: answer to that timeline. But but I agree with you, Steve,

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Speaker 9: what you said earlier. We've been hearing for weeks that

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Speaker 9: Arthur Blank would make a run at Bill Belichick. It

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Speaker 9: was just a question to me of would Bill want Atlanta?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, look, I'll tell you this, Arthur Blank

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Speaker 5: doesn't do postgame interviews in locker rooms, so that might

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Speaker 5: be the thing that waits to scale down. Do you

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Speaker 5: talked about you were you were at the press conference

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Speaker 5: for Droid Mayo in New England, and this, look, this

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Speaker 5: is somebody he somebody came up under Belichick.

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Speaker 3: They're not straying far from the family.

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Speaker 1: What was that like?

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Speaker 5: Because he is also walking into one of the most

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Speaker 5: difficult scenarios in terms of living up to that standard

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Speaker 5: of the greatest who's ever done it.

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Speaker 9: I thought he did a really good job of walking

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Speaker 9: the line between being very respectful of Belichick. He was

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Speaker 9: there as a player for him, and he coached under him,

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Speaker 9: and also making it clear he was going to do

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Speaker 9: things his way. He is his own man. I mean,

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Speaker 9: he talked about the things he learned from Bill about,

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Speaker 9: you know, the attention to detail and being game specific,

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Speaker 9: and you know, you have to teach players, right, You're

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Speaker 9: basically you have to develop players.

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Speaker 2: You're a teacher.

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Speaker 9: But he also said things like I don't want to

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Speaker 9: be in an echo chamber and I plan to knock

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Speaker 9: down silos, which is clearly a reference to you know,

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Speaker 9: when Bill had a tremendous amount of power there, had

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Speaker 9: accrued a tremendous amount of power there and all information

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Speaker 9: went to Bill and came from Though, right, So Jared

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Speaker 9: Mayo seems to want to have a more collaborative atmosphere there.

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Speaker 9: He said multiple times, you know, he's a rookie head coach.

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Speaker 9: He hasn't even been a coach that long. He's not

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Speaker 9: that far removed from his playing case. So he kept saying,

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Speaker 9: I'm going to lead. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 9: people who are experts and things that I'm going to

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Speaker 9: lean on them for their help. So certainly, look, you

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Speaker 9: could just see by the personality, right, I mean, he

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Speaker 9: said he's going to smile more like he's a much

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Speaker 9: bubblier personality. But I think even on the day to

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Speaker 9: day operations side, it's going to be a much more

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Speaker 9: collaborative place, and I think they need that. He's going

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Speaker 9: to need the support again, you know, he's a rookie

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Speaker 9: head coach and they got a lot to fix in

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Speaker 9: New England. He's going to need a lot of support.

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Speaker 4: I'm fascinated to see what Drod Mayo wants to keep

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Speaker 4: in place and what he wants to do entirely different.

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Speaker 4: Those decisions are going to be just picked apart by

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Speaker 4: everybody in New England with each one that he makes,

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Speaker 4: which is a very fascinating situation for him to be in.

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Speaker 4: Another one that we're keeping an eye on this head

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Speaker 4: coach is go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I could just add this.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday they did not offer a whole lot of details

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Speaker 9: about what the structure of the organization was going to

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Speaker 9: be and who the offensive coordinators can be. So there

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Speaker 9: are still a lot of big decisions to come about

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Speaker 9: how they are going to function now that Mayo is there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna we're gonna look at every single angle.

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Speaker 4: How about Mike Rabel, Judy, We were hearing nothing about

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Speaker 4: one of the best head coaches that's available. Maybe in

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Speaker 4: some people's eyes, the best head coach is potentially available

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Speaker 4: if you look at what he's accomplished and his age

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Speaker 4: and what he's done. We weren't hearing anything. Now we're

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Speaker 4: finally hearing that Mike Rabel is taking an interview with

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Speaker 4: the Chargers. We know that prior head coaching experience is

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Speaker 4: high on their list. They've been clear about that. What's

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Speaker 4: your thought on Mike Rabel and his future in this

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Speaker 4: head coaching cycle, because it is very interesting where he

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Speaker 4: could potentially land or maybe not land.

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Speaker 9: It's been curiously quiet, and I sort of wonder if

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Speaker 9: now that the Dallas situation is settled, if now Domino's

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Speaker 9: will start to fall. I you know, I sort of

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Speaker 9: wonder if everybody was waiting to see what was going

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Speaker 9: to happen in Dallas and what Jerry was going to do.

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Speaker 9: And so now that that's out of the way, to

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Speaker 9: other people make moves because you word, Rabel's name linked

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Speaker 9: to a potential opening in Dallas too, So now that

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Speaker 9: that's off the table, you know, does does Rabel start

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Speaker 9: taking interviews? But I agree with you, it's it's been

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Speaker 9: strangely quiet around Rabel. I assume that there will be

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Speaker 9: interest in him. There's there's still a lot of openings

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Speaker 9: and a lot to go through. And of course, because

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Speaker 9: the timeline is extended, because the league wants to slow

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Speaker 9: things down, you know, teams don't have to move quite

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Speaker 9: so fast. But you know, I would expect that Rabel

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Speaker 9: is going to be in the mix for some of

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Speaker 9: these jobs. I'd be surprised if he's not.

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Speaker 3: Judy.

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Speaker 5: This weekend, you are going to be at that awesome

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Speaker 5: Texant and Ravens game. Let's hear a quarterback Lamar jack

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Speaker 5: had to say about the team's slow starts and shortcomings

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Speaker 5: in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Your four previous playoff game defense didn't score more than

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Speaker 2: twenty points. How much more confident do you feel that.

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Speaker 4: This year's offense has the ability to put up a

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Speaker 4: point you need to win in the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Very confident, very very confident, extremely confident, Judy.

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Speaker 5: You heard Lamar Jackson's response, but the look on his

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Speaker 5: face was like, oh, we got something for him, We

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Speaker 5: got it.

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Speaker 3: But do they I mean, why should he feel so.

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Speaker 9: Confident because this is a different offense and he's a

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Speaker 9: different quarterback than he has been with Todd Monkins offense.

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Speaker 9: They do start slow. I mean, look, they're only one

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Speaker 9: in three in the playoffs with Lamars the starting quarterback,

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Speaker 9: and incredibly, in those four games, they haven't scored a

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Speaker 9: point in the first quarter. So obviously they got to

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Speaker 9: get up to a faster start. But I sort of

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Speaker 9: set those aside because this offense is different. He is

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Speaker 9: different this year. I was at the game against the

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Speaker 9: Miami Dolphins. He played that game almost exclusively from the pocket.

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Speaker 9: They were happy to leave him in the pocket. They

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Speaker 9: didn't want him to get out and run, so he

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Speaker 9: just tore them up from the pocket, which is not

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Speaker 9: something in years past that Lamar has been doing. Right,

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Speaker 9: he would go out and run. He is so comfortable now,

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Speaker 9: he's so comfortable in the pocket, He's so precise. It's

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Speaker 9: a different offense, so I think there will be different results,

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Speaker 9: and he should be extremely confident. He played so well

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Speaker 9: this year, especially down the stretch. He's going to be

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Speaker 9: the league MVP. He should have a great deal of

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Speaker 9: confidence in this offense.

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Speaker 4: Judy, if I could run like Lamar Jackson, I would

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Speaker 4: not opt to just sit in the pocket and play quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Like I would be running everywhere just because you're more

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Speaker 4: elusive and faster than everybody else in the field. But

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Speaker 4: he has that ability to beat you in a variety

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Speaker 4: of ways.

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Speaker 9: I think it just must be so cool to be

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Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson and to have his skills, like he's just awesome.

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Speaker 2: I love to watch him.

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Speaker 9: I'm so thrilled to be covering this game because I

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Speaker 9: love to watch him play.

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Speaker 2: I'm jealous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you're gonna get the ce CJ shroud as

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Speaker 5: defense that no one's talking enough about.

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Speaker 3: That defense is playing well, Judy.

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Speaker 5: We got to get gone, but we appreciate you joining

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Speaker 5: us as always. Have fun this weekend in Baltimore and

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Speaker 5: coming up next the pack and running back Aaron Jones

639
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Speaker 5: in that running game it's called the Attention to Ryan Baldinger,

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Speaker 5: he's playing by Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: One of his favorite films to watch on the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back into the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch

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Speaker 4: with you? And there was some piece of my soul,

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Speaker 4: Steve that was missing last week when we didn't have

645
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Speaker 4: Baldy and Baldi's favorite films, my favorite segment every week,

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Speaker 4: we didn't have it, and there was a big part,

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Speaker 4: Baldi that was just missing in the show, that just

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Speaker 4: was not replicated or replaced by anything.

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Speaker 1: Let's make up for it. Just gotta get that break

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Speaker 1: up for it this week.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it get all right, Yeah, let's have a

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Speaker 2: double dose. Let's do it Baldi.

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Speaker 4: And listen, there was we watched everybody watch that game

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Speaker 4: him down in Dallas, and everybody's eyes are focused on

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Speaker 4: Jordan Love and what he's doing and what he's doing

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Speaker 4: at the quarterback position. But the run game that the

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Speaker 4: Packers have going right now for the last several weeks

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Speaker 4: is something that you've seen and you've watched closely in

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Speaker 4: the film room that I hear you just.

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Speaker 1: Left, well, you know showtime Jones Aaron Jones is one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite players in this league. I remember covering

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Speaker 1: the kid when he was at El Paso. You know,

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Speaker 1: the nine, one five. He always puts those numbers up.

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Speaker 1: He's proud of his area code. But you know he

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Speaker 1: missed a chunk of the season and his legs are

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Speaker 1: fresh right now. And a couple of things is one,

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Speaker 1: this guy doesn't miss a hole, all right, so his

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Speaker 1: vision is unbelievable. And then the way that they run

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Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, they're diverse. They use their tight ends,

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Speaker 1: they use a lot of motions to get him singled

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Speaker 1: up and to get him into space in a variety

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Speaker 1: of ways. They can always throw it to him. He's

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Speaker 1: an excellent receiver out of the backfield. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's down the goal line like

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Speaker 1: it was last week against Dallas where he scored from

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Speaker 1: the one, he scored from the three, he scored from

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Speaker 1: the nine, you know. And then short yardage like you

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Speaker 1: name it, and when you watch it, it's it's wine backs,

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Speaker 1: it's tossed, it's it's inside slant, it's outside zone. It's

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Speaker 1: really every kind of run. And then what my floor

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Speaker 1: is doing and what Aeron is doing is all right,

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Speaker 1: which ones will working like that's a wind back play,

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Speaker 1: all right? And you know it's And then if you

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Speaker 1: look up front, the guys are not allowing penetration, uh

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Speaker 1: the rotating some offensive linemen up there, but they're they're

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Speaker 1: in sync right now between the line and what Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jones is doing. And over the last month he's been

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Speaker 1: the most productive running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Baldy that that run game has set up the

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Speaker 5: run action, which is why Jordan Love might be playing

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Speaker 5: better than any quarterback right now when it just comes

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Speaker 5: to efficiency, the plays downfield, the aggression. Speaking of aggression, Baldi,

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Speaker 5: you just came out of the film room and with

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Speaker 5: the Tampa Bay defense try to do against the Lions

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Speaker 5: when they met earlier this year was pretty much medieval,

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Speaker 5: except they came out on the back end of the win.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, Steve, because we all watched what Tampa

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Speaker 1: did the Philadelphia Monday night and it was a blitz creak.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they blitzed Jalen Hurts Eavy which way you can,

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Speaker 1: and it was effective. But I was thinking, Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: go back and watch rewatch week six. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: the they blitzed the very first play of the game, Steve.

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Speaker 1: They came after Jared Goff on third downs. They had

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Speaker 1: great success. I mean it was a ten to three

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Speaker 1: game at halftime now, and the blitzing was a big

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Speaker 1: part of getting off the field on third downs. They

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Speaker 1: blitzed the run, Steve. It wasn't just a pass, but

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Speaker 1: they blitzed the run. They blitzed him on third and one,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know where Todd Bowles comes

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Speaker 1: with all these combinations, but when they come like there's

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Speaker 1: no hesitancy, they hit that thing, you know, like a

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Speaker 1: bat out of hell, and they're good at it. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure Detroit spending a good chunk of time

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Speaker 1: in preparation for this game on the Blitz and their

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Speaker 1: Blitz pickups and their packages and how they're going to

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Speaker 1: try and keep these guys from affecting Jared Goff in

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Speaker 1: the past game.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's go to another team that blitz is just

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Speaker 4: maybe in a more creative fun way than anybody else

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Speaker 4: in football, and that's Steve Spagnola's group with the Kansas

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Speaker 4: City Chiefs. We just had Trent mcduffee on the show,

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Speaker 4: and Trent was talking to us about his responsibilities in

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Speaker 4: the slot, not only worrying about two really good tight ends,

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Speaker 4: worrying about a really good slot receiver of the pass game,

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Speaker 4: how his eyes have to be focused on Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: and in the run game and Josh specifically running the

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Speaker 4: football as well in the middle of the field. What

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Speaker 4: does this defense need to do with the Kansas City

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Speaker 4: Chiefs to limit what Josh Allen has been able to

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Speaker 4: do over the last several weeks, which is essentially be

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Speaker 4: their run game.

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Speaker 1: Well, so it's interesting because when you go back and

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Speaker 1: you rewatch week fourteen's game, they had a real package

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Speaker 1: designed to contain Josh Allen, and so it was a

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Speaker 1: variety of ways. I mean, you know, if you put

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones one on one with any in this business

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Speaker 1: right now, he's gonna win. But in certain rushes, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't trying to win. He was just trying to push

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Speaker 1: the pocket and keep Josh Allen on that postion stamp

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Speaker 1: behind his center MIT's morse. So they did some of that.

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Speaker 1: They did a lot of three man rush, and then

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Speaker 1: they spied Josh Allen with Willy Gay in that game,

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Speaker 1: and so Josh Allen would, you know, see the three

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Speaker 1: man rush, feel it, exit, go, try to break it.

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Speaker 1: And then here comes Willy Gay and he pressured him

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Speaker 1: so much one time that he threw an interception or

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Speaker 1: as a result of it. Now he had eight runs

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Speaker 1: in that game, thirty two yards. Did have the one

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Speaker 1: touchdown run which was kind of like a massive rugby

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Speaker 1: play where they just pushed him across the goal line.

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Speaker 1: But I thought they did a good job of keeping

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen from breaking the pocket and doing what he

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Speaker 1: did against Pittsburgh last week when he went fifteen to

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Speaker 1: two yards to pay dirt. And so I'm sure Buffalo

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Speaker 1: is anticipating something like this to happen again and how

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Speaker 1: they're going to counter that if there is the three

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Speaker 1: men rush and the or some other combination that Spaggage

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Speaker 1: comes up with. They they've always liked this though. You know,

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Speaker 1: you had Trent McDuffie on Lugarious need Watson their corners.

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Speaker 1: They blitzed their corners more than any other team in

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Speaker 1: the league. And one of the reasons why they do

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Speaker 1: is it gets speed to the quarterback faster than somebody

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Speaker 1: that's actually pass rushing, and so he gets quick, quick color,

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Speaker 1: quick athletes onto Josh Allen, forcing him into making a

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Speaker 1: decision stay throw, try to shake him off. They've had

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Speaker 1: success in the playoffs against Josh Allen with some of

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Speaker 1: those corner blitzes that you're talking to Trent McDuffie about.

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Speaker 5: Hey, jab, you could tell Baldy was just coaching down

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Speaker 5: at the Hula Bowl because he's using major football for

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Speaker 5: naclar get quick color on that quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And I freaking love it.

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Speaker 1: Baldy.

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Speaker 3: Hey Baldy.

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Speaker 5: A team that doesn't blitz a ton that we've seen lately,

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Speaker 5: but is probably more effective than any team in the

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Speaker 5: NFL is the Ravens, right. I mean they get the

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Speaker 5: rush with their guys up front and their zone defense

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Speaker 5: in the back.

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Speaker 3: Now they're playing the Texans and the Red Hot Sea drowd.

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Speaker 5: How do you see the combination of what the Ravens

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Speaker 5: do impacting of how well the Texans are functioning well?

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Speaker 1: I mean they play a matchup zone Steve. Now, other

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Speaker 1: teams play it. I don't know anybody plays it better

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Speaker 1: than Baltimore right now. Kyle Hamilton is a huge part

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Speaker 1: of it because of his length and all the different

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Speaker 1: places they put them. In the addition of Genevian Clowney,

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Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy, you go with mattabk They've got ways

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Speaker 1: that they overload and get after you, but they zone

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Speaker 1: up behind it. And if you look at Brock Purty

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Speaker 1: in this game, if you look at Jared Goff mid season,

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Speaker 1: if you look at Geno Smith, all these quarterbacks they

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Speaker 1: came in playing pretty good football, all left struggling, to

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Speaker 1: a tongue of Belowa struggled against his defense because part

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Speaker 1: of it is you don't know where the matchup is

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Speaker 1: coming from, depending on the route combinations. So the quarterback

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a good pre snap read of where guys

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Speaker 1: are going to be. They don't discover where they're going

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Speaker 1: until the ball is snapped, and sometimes that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit too late, and it makes that quarterback hold the

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Speaker 1: ball like you see right there, a brock party in

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Speaker 1: that blowout win that Baltimore had.

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Speaker 5: All Right, Baldy, we gotta let you go. Aloha, my brother,

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Speaker 5: you just finished a hula bull. I'm here at the

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Speaker 5: Polynesian Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I feel really like that here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kap, but that's all right. Everybody says hello to you, Baldi.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, appreciate you coming back.

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Speaker 5: Next, Yeah, Bill Belichick taking a second interview with the Falcons. Oh,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be joined by somebody who works for that

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Speaker 5: organization and for Bill Belichick, Jim Thumas de Mitchew.

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Speaker 3: Next on the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's James Palmer, and you're listening to the NFL

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Speaker 4: Report podcast along with myself and Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 2: But remember, if you want to see our beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Faces, this is a show at seven fifteen Monday and Thursday,

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Speaker 4: that's seven fifteen pm Eastern, And we are on the

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Speaker 4: NFL app as well as fast streaming platforms.

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Speaker 2: That's two B, that's OK, that's Pluto, that's Peacock.

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Speaker 4: All of those platforms as well as the NFL dot

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Speaker 2: Find us all of those spots all.

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Speaker 5: Right back at the NFL Report and James, I've been

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Speaker 5: looking forward to this. We are bringing in former Falcons

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Speaker 5: general manager Thomas de mitchrov TD. How you doing, man?

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Speaker 11: I can't wait to talk to you guys. It is

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Speaker 11: cold and hot down here in Atlanta, for sure. Is

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Speaker 11: a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: Well on that note, because we were going to slow

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Speaker 3: play into that. But on that note, let's get right

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 5: You talk about it hot being in Atlanta, TD, and

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Speaker 5: that's because Bill Belichick, who you used to work for

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Speaker 5: with the Patriots, is having his second interview with the

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Speaker 5: Atlanta Falcons, where you served as general manager. Just knowing

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Speaker 5: that building, what do you think these tea leaves are

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Speaker 5: telling us about what could possibly happen or what's likely

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Speaker 5: to happen.

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Speaker 11: Of course, I have not been in conversation with anything

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Speaker 11: about anyone about this. You know, this is me stepping back.

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Speaker 11: Knowing both gentlemen very well, right, you have Arthur Blank,

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Speaker 11: one of the best owners in the league. As you know,

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Speaker 11: he's going to do all he can to make and

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Speaker 11: help that organization be the best that it can possibly

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Speaker 11: be at so many levels as you know that. And

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Speaker 11: then you have Bill Belichick, who I maintain and as

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Speaker 11: does your buddy Scott Pioell and all of us who

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Speaker 11: have been around him. He is the very best in

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Speaker 11: modern times. And just like Micha Lombardi said, he is

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Speaker 11: probably third only behind Vince Lombardi and Paul Brown. Like,

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Speaker 11: what he can do for an organization is on my

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Speaker 11: mind unparalleled. And so wherever he ends up going and

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Speaker 11: whatever he ends up doing, you and I both know

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Speaker 11: he brings the organization that he does go to closer

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Speaker 11: to a super Bowl in the next three to four

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Speaker 11: years than anyone out there in my mind, and that's

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Speaker 11: not taking away from anyone out there that we know.

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Speaker 11: This is an amazing in my mind group of coaches.

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Speaker 11: With Dan Quinn out there, you know how I feel

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Speaker 11: about him, With Mike Gravel out there, with Harbaugh, there's

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Speaker 11: a lot of great opportunities.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be really interesting.

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Speaker 4: Gedie I'm curious with Bill Belichick and you knowing him

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Speaker 4: so well, and there's seven openings right now, does.

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Speaker 2: He fit in all seven? Though?

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Speaker 4: I feel like when you look at him and what

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Speaker 4: he's accomplished and what he's done, is there a certain

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Speaker 4: group of teams that probably fit him better than saying

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Speaker 4: maybe just because he's at the top of your list,

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Speaker 4: he would fit all seven of these.

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Speaker 11: Look, my feeling on this is anyone who has the

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Speaker 11: stature that Bill Belichick has, and of course there are

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Speaker 11: very few, but any of those really experienced coaches that

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Speaker 11: have a really strong stance on everything and they should

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00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 11: right they deserve it. They deserve it through an incredible

875
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 11: amount of time in this league in an understanding of football.

876
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 11: The only thing I would say is those organizations that

877
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 11: have that first time general manager or first or second

878
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 11: year general manager, it becomes a little more complicated.

879
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Speaker 1: Tom.

880
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: I want you to kind of take us through the process,

881
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: not specifically speaking to anyone, but using your experiences. Right

882
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: when I worked for the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I covered

883
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 5: the team when you were hired as general manager, and

884
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: it's a two parter, but just your.

885
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: Experiences going through the.

886
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 5: Interview process to get this job that so many people

887
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: are doing right now interviewing for jobs. And then the

888
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: second part is when you were part of the coaching

889
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 5: search in Atlanta when you ended up hiring Dan Quinn.

890
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: So where do you want me to lead on that? Then?

891
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: Sorry, so let's start.

892
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: Let's let's start with you going through the process with

893
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: so many of these GM candidates are going through right now, Like, Okay,

894
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 5: how do I interview for this position? What do I

895
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 5: tell teams? How I want to build this team? Because

896
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 5: you came in not knowing who your head coach was

897
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 5: going to be.

898
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean when I first started

899
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 11: way back in two thousand and eight, when we run

900
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Speaker 11: on Mike Smith through that whole process, and then moving

901
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 11: on to Dan Quinn obviously in two thousand and six fifteen,

902
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 11: excuse me, very different search situations, right, I mean, Arthur

903
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 11: Blank was really good to allow me as a general manager,

904
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 11: a first time general manager, to go through myriad lists

905
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 11: as far as what we needed at that point. That is,

906
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 11: so there are so many layers to it, Steve, But

907
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 11: to me, it's contingent on on where your organization is

908
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 11: at that time.

909
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Right.

910
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 11: Our interview process from Mike Smith back in early two

911
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 11: thousand and eight was very different than it was with

912
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 11: Dan Quinn in twenty fifteen because of where we were

913
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 11: roster wise, where we were with a quarterback, what we

914
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 11: needed to do. Mike Smith, as you know, great head coach,

915
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 11: three time Coach of the Year, and there were changes

916
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 11: that need to be made.

917
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Right.

918
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 11: You look at that as a GM and as an

919
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 11: owner of course, and you say, Okay, here are all

920
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 11: the great things about the former head coach that was

921
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 11: here and now, and here are the things that were challenges.

922
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 11: We want to make sure that the next head coach

923
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 11: that comes in doesn't bring to the table some of

924
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 11: the same challenges or that person and a new head

925
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 11: coach potentially to come in, we know that that coach

926
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 11: is not going to be running the same line of

927
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 11: trying to deal with some of the stuff that maybe

928
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 11: slow played the coach that came in or was there before.

929
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 11: I guess what I'm saying is very very different and

930
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 11: a lot of layers and a lot of a lot

931
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 11: of conversations about leadership, about about abilities of the coaches. Right,

932
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 11: we would go through myriad conversations again to use that

933
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 11: word about how you know what what is the best

934
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 11: way to approach that coach. You're talking about ability to coach,

935
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 11: talking about ability in the in the meeting room, you're

936
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 11: talking about ability to develop players there. Again, those are

937
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 11: things that we really have to drill down on as

938
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 11: general managers and former general managers, and.

939
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: For everybody listening, that's kind of what's happening in Washington,

940
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: right Thomas. They get Adam Peters and now they're kind

941
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 4: of going into their head coaching kind of search after

942
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: they've established it. So so to piggyback off of what

943
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: you just said, I'm fast by. We're so entrenched in

944
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: where coaches come from their coaching tree, as we always say,

945
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: what tree did they come from? Did that ever play

946
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 4: a factor or does it play a factor when you're

947
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: looking at a coach knowing where he came from, in

948
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 4: which tree he came.

949
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 11: From, Yeah, there's no question about that, James. I mean

950
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 11: you're looking about how they were raised there honestly, their

951
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 11: approaches to building a team, their approaches and their former

952
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 11: whoever they came up through, their former head coach, their

953
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 11: mentors so to speak, how they quite honestly, and a

954
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 11: lot of gms do this. How was this this guy

955
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 11: that we're going to be interviewing now, how was he

956
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 11: raised as far as personnel goes, right, Make no mistake

957
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 11: about it, James, every one of these gms that have

958
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 11: personnel background want to make sure that they are pairing

959
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 11: with a with a coach that AA understands personnel, understands

960
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 11: the ability to evaluate understands. Again, there are so many

961
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 11: levels to evaluating. That is a big, big deal. No,

962
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 11: and I go back into my first time with you know,

963
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 11: someone like Mike Smith. I wanted to make sure that

964
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 11: Mike knew about evaluation, believed in evaluation, believed in the

965
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 11: scouting system, and understood that the scout scout and the

966
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 11: coach's coach and then within that that we are able

967
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 11: to come together as GM and head coach and be

968
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 11: able to discuss at so many levels the nuances of

969
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 11: the system. That is vital. You're most of these general

970
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 11: managers out there, most not all, of course, you guys

971
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 11: know this. Howie Roseman and Mickey Loomis two of the

972
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 11: best out there. Those guys came from a different you know,

973
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 11: a different road, just like Brandon Bean did, right, But yeah, yeah,

974
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 11: and there's some really good ones out there that don't

975
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 11: have personnel background. Everyone in this spot wants to make

976
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 11: sure they have a workable relationship with their head coach.

977
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 11: No one wants to come in this where they're batting

978
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 11: their head against the wall every day that they're trying

979
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 11: to help build the team. James, So again, very very

980
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 11: very very important to make sure you know how these

981
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 11: guys are raised in some last quot last point, Some

982
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 11: that were raised in certain paradigms that don't have a

983
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 11: real respect for the personnel staff. That that can be

984
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 11: very treacherous and it can be a it can be

985
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 11: a short lived relationship, of course.

986
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: Thomas, I'm so glad you said that because I remember

987
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: the union with you and Mike Smith, and you stressed

988
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: the importance of the separate but collaborative dynamics that you

989
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: were just talking about. Lastly, we have about a minute here, Thomas.

990
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 5: You got to find a quarterback. You were fortunate to

991
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 5: come into a situation your first time, you had a

992
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: number three overall pick.

993
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: And you got Matt Ryan.

994
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 5: How vital is it, you know, when you look at

995
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 5: some of these circumstances to know who is going to

996
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 5: be the proper guy to fit into your locker room

997
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 5: and real quick with the caveat. Remember, Thomas, everyone was

998
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 5: telling you to draft defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey instead of

999
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 5: Matt Ryan.

1000
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: At that time.

1001
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 11: There was a lot of that, as you know in town,

1002
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 11: and we won't mentioned some of the names, but yeah, oh, look,

1003
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 11: I mean anyone, even a head coach or GM that

1004
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 11: potentially could be coming into a team. One of the

1005
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 11: main things we're looking at. Of course, we're looking at

1006
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 11: who the ownership is. Making no mistake about that as well. Gentlemen,

1007
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 11: if you don't know the owner, at least have a

1008
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 11: grasp of what the owner is and their approach. That's

1009
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 11: a big deal. Now, when you're a first timer, you're open.

1010
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 11: We always used to joke about this. You're open to say, lo,

1011
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 11: I'll work anywhere. I could do anything with anyone, just

1012
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 11: give me the opportunity. And as you get experience, you're

1013
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 11: a lot more particular about that.

1014
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: That's one thing. Of course.

1015
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 11: The quarterback is massively important, not only that the quarterback

1016
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 11: might be there, but that the quarterback is within reach,

1017
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 11: that there's a potential to get a free agent, or

1018
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 11: equally important that you are in a draft spot, that

1019
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 11: you know that you might get one of these top

1020
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 11: five this year. If you're twenty two coming in or

1021
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 11: eighteen and you're going to have to move up and

1022
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 11: sell the farm to get up there, that's a little

1023
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 11: bit different when you're talking about making sure that you

1024
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 11: get the right quarterback to build around.

1025
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: All right, So I got to squeeze this one in

1026
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 4: Thomas because this is what I'm fascinating about. Look at

1027
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 4: the Bears, right, they have what some people believe is

1028
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: their quarterback, but they also have the number one overall pick.

1029
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: How would you kind of looking.

1030
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: At that from an outsider's perspective, kind of look at

1031
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: that spot that Ryan Poles is in right now? And

1032
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: is that a very difficult spot? Would it be a

1033
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: fun spot from a GM perspective?

1034
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: What? What?

1035
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: What is he dealing with right now?

1036
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 11: It's a lot of sleepless nights, I'm sure. I mean,

1037
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 11: there's a there's an element of excitement about it, right

1038
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 11: to know that you are in such control and have

1039
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 11: the opportunity to continue to build. Yes, it's a it's

1040
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 11: a I think it's a great spot to be in.

1041
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 11: You know, remember that that pick was not on Ryan Poles, right,

1042
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 11: We know that not not that it's whether it worked

1043
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 11: or not. But as again general managers, normally you want

1044
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 11: to stay with the quarterback that you that you picked

1045
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 11: and you brought in. Of course, Ryan Pace, I have

1046
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 11: a great deal of respect. You know, he was the

1047
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 11: one who actually drafted him, so you know, who knows

1048
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 11: where where he ends his quarter his former quarterback ends up.

1049
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 11: But great spot to be in if you're Ryan Poles,

1050
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 11: I believe.

1051
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: TD absolutely great stuff. I mean this.

1052
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: You know, we try to enlighten and you just really

1053
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: really open the bandwidth of some minds here with some

1054
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 5: of these topics. Brother, we appreciate you taking the time

1055
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 5: for us. Hopefully we'll get you back on here again.

1056
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 5: Love to be back anytime.

1057
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: Jents, don't forget.

1058
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 4: Every Monday every Thursday, seven fifteen East on the NFL channel,

1059
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: also on two b Roku Peacock The NFL Report also

1060
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: a podcast also on the NFL's YouTube account as well.

1061
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: We're going to be back.

1062
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: On Monday and Thursday of next week recapping Steve everything

1063
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: that went down in the divisional round.

1064
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: I'll be doing it from Buffalo. How about that?

1065
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 3: That's sweet. I'll be watching from Honolulu

1066
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: To Jay