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Speaker 1: How you doing, Deshaun Foster, head football coach at UCLA.

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Speaker 1: I am on NFL Player Second Acts. Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tooman and this is the NFL Players Second

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Speaker 2: Acts podcast.

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Speaker 1: My guy Roman Harbor. He got the chest out today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: mayn it's called West Coast. It's called West Coast. Just

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Speaker 1: living the dream baby, Okay, thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: One the days I'm gonnat a little hair on it.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, up until that point, man, let me give

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Speaker 3: about this guest that we have in the studio today

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Speaker 3: here in NFL West West Coast Studio.

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah, there we go. Shout out to them.

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Speaker 3: Uh go ahead, man, readers down his bio. He was

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Speaker 3: a Carolina panther born in Charlotte, North Carolina, before going

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Speaker 3: to the west coast.

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Speaker 1: So keep it going.

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Speaker 3: You you started to keep it going, well, all right, fine,

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Speaker 3: and I will. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer

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Speaker 3: at the U c L. A Brewing second round draft

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Speaker 3: pick back the Charlotte Well Carolina Panthers because it's a

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Speaker 3: team of both Carolinas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now current U c l.

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Speaker 3: A head football coach Deshaun Foster. That was all off

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Speaker 3: the dome because I appreciate that was that was good. Well,

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Speaker 3: when you know somebody and you've seen somebody and observed

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Speaker 3: them from a long time, uh, you know who this

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Speaker 3: person is. I played with this man on video games.

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Speaker 3: I've had a jersey of his. I live in Charlotte,

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Speaker 3: North Carolina, so I know a lot about this young man.

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Speaker 3: Not only that, but I played at the University of

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Speaker 3: Alabama when he came to Tuscaloosa and put that Thaihau

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Speaker 3: on Alabama. So thank you, thank you. I actually have

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Speaker 3: the stats here if you want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I think I know them off top. Oh okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: right there. It was that a game? It was that good?

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Speaker 1: Two times? It was it was two?

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Speaker 2: Oh Kenny, what how was it? How did you play?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't watch that game. I was

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Speaker 2: not there.

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Speaker 1: I might have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first game, forty two carries a UCLA record

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Speaker 3: at the time, one hundred and eighty seven yards. That

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Speaker 3: was at UCLA, so that was out here.

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Speaker 1: In count number three. They came in there and got smacked.

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Speaker 3: They did, hey, hey, look, Alabama's just coming off SEC championship.

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Speaker 3: They had just started recruiting me at the time, and

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Speaker 3: then they go on the road in Ucla. I meant

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Speaker 3: people in Alabama didn't know who Deshaun Foster was up

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Speaker 3: until this moment.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I would agree, And then all of a sudden everybody

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Speaker 3: started off bad.

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Speaker 1: We threw a pick the first series, no, no fumble,

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Speaker 1: uh huh, but we got it back. So he's behind

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Speaker 1: the sticks, yeah, having a punt punted to Freddy Millons. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Freddy Millons. That's that first on the game six.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Freddie Miller was that guy back then. And

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they continued to just do

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Speaker 3: that thing. Forty two carries one hundred and eighty seven yards.

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Speaker 3: Then my game, when I came on to campus, I

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Speaker 3: was there. I was red shirting, of course, so I

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Speaker 3: didn't actually get to play. But I was like, I

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Speaker 3: just want to see this guy because I remember hi

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Speaker 3: last year watching him on TV, and I got to

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Speaker 3: see him in real life person. It was another twenty

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Speaker 3: four carries for one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 1: Yards, so.

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Speaker 3: He dropped a seerious stiff arm. Oh my goy, Reggie

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Speaker 3: Miles on the sideline. That's when I was like, wow,

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Speaker 3: we were talking about that, yar sol, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I remember this very vividly, right hand,

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Speaker 3: you remember it.

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Speaker 1: It was two years in a row, back to back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my god. But I only remember this stuff because Kendall

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Speaker 1: Morehead was oh mo big yeah, got drafted Carolina. So

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Speaker 1: we was always talking about it all the time. That's

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Speaker 1: the reason this is so Isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Amazing how we always like we don't remember half the stuff.

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Speaker 2: But there's certain places like, oh, I remember that, just

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Speaker 2: like like he was, Yes, it was it was twenty

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Speaker 2: two toss right, it was No, it was more it

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Speaker 2: was my it was my right hand. It was two

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Speaker 2: years ago, one hundred and eighty seven yards. I took

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Speaker 2: a counter. Like we know all the intimate details about

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Speaker 2: the play years years years later.

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Speaker 1: I love that about us. That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: So all right, well enough bragging about your career at

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Speaker 3: that point, we'll get back to more of it. I

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Speaker 3: want to know about more of what you're doing currently.

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Speaker 3: And you are now the head coach at UCLA. I

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Speaker 3: love your swag. You are completely yourself, which I love.

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Speaker 3: And then on top of that, what has been like

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Speaker 3: the biggest welcoming or like you are a head coach now, Like,

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Speaker 3: tell me about that moment. Have you anything been different?

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Speaker 3: What is like the biggest takeaway that you're like, Man,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I was ready for that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got to this point being myself. So

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Speaker 1: you have to continue, you know, yeah take on a

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Speaker 1: new person just because you're the head coach now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got to continue to be yourself. So that's the number one.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's just all off the field stuff. I'm

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Speaker 1: changing the nutrition. Yeah, where we're staying at night before games,

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Speaker 1: just getting back to how it was when I played,

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Speaker 1: where we stayed, stuff like that, bringing just back normal

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Speaker 1: routines that the Bruins used to do.

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Speaker 3: So tell me the difference between where there you guys

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Speaker 3: are going to be staying versus like where you were staying.

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Speaker 1: So we have a hotel on campus. The stadium isn't

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Speaker 1: on campus, but we would still at the hotel on

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Speaker 1: campus and then bust to the stadium. I'd rather stay

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Speaker 1: at the hotel that's closer to the to the stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then get up and go to the stay in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just one less thing you got to stress on

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Speaker 3: game day. Yeah, traffic in LA it could be a

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Speaker 1: You never know, even though you got to escort still,

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Speaker 1: but you still you never know.

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Speaker 2: Now are you doing a ton of admin stuff versus coaching?

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Speaker 1: Like are you still like coaching running backs?

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Speaker 2: Are you still like is there coaching still involved or

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Speaker 2: is it just you're overseeing everything?

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Speaker 1: I mean there's coaching still involved. But I have a

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Speaker 1: running back coach. So you know Marcus Thomas, my running

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Speaker 1: back coach. He was my assistant also, Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: at San Jose. I was able to bring him back.

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Speaker 1: But as a head coach is a lot of admin.

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Speaker 1: When you get in that position, it's more you know,

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Speaker 1: you you coach the coaches, but most of the stuff

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Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of admin. You're really true at CEO.

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Speaker 1: So you're my hands are in a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: N I l hiring of strim staff, nutrition academics. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's just a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of just a lot of pieces that keep this train moving.

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Speaker 2: Now, this one question I wanted to ask you because

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Speaker 2: when I watched the when I watched the interview, I

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Speaker 2: was just like, damn, dude, you c l a have

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Speaker 2: a c My brother was bullets in there like you

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Speaker 2: was stone. So it was like the scene from Minutes

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Speaker 2: of Society were sitting in the interrogation room. Brother, you

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Speaker 2: was sweating so hard, and I was ready for someone

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Speaker 2: to say, you know, you mess up, don't you like?

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Speaker 1: How how was it in there? But every every time

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Speaker 1: you said something, it was hot, It was hot. Was

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Speaker 1: just a lot going. The room was filled with people's yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. The room being filled with people.

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Speaker 1: Does that do you actually look back.

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Speaker 3: At that and say, Man, not only am I the

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Speaker 3: right man for this job, but the amount of people

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Speaker 3: see me up here with this job. I saw how

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Speaker 3: much the team celebrated, like we all saw that. That

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Speaker 3: was great. You got your camera crew in here. Now

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Speaker 3: we all saw that all over it all across social media.

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Speaker 3: But what did that tell you when you see a

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Speaker 3: room full of people excited to see that Deshaun Foster

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Speaker 3: is being announced as the head coach of.

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Speaker 1: U c l A. What does that tell you? Just

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Speaker 1: to support? You know, it was a donors, alumni, ex teammates,

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Speaker 1: there's so many people just to feel that support and

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Speaker 1: actually see them. A lot of people came from out

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Speaker 1: it was just amazing that. You know, people got worded

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Speaker 1: of this press conference, I got hired, and they tried

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Speaker 1: to find a way to get to LA and support me.

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Speaker 1: So this program's on the rise. You know, we got

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Speaker 1: to support that. We want we got to put a

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Speaker 1: change everything.

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Speaker 2: Now you talked about being the being the head coach

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Speaker 2: and you more of an ad man and you're in

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Speaker 2: the hiring, you're in charge of hiring Eric Beenemy. What

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Speaker 2: Why was it important for you to have him on

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Speaker 1: I mean being a first time head coach. I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have to micro manage my offensive coordinator, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Hiring Eric bene Me, I know I'm not

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Speaker 1: They're going to respect him. He's he's proven in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing more than having a guy that's played

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Speaker 1: there just recently. So I just thought it was resonating

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Speaker 1: well with my players to be around the NFL caliber

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Speaker 1: type offensive coordinator, and you know they've been taking on

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Speaker 1: to him great and I'm looking forward to finish the

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Speaker 3: Now you say that knowing that when you were in college,

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Speaker 3: do you think players all look at it, well, that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm trying to get to, and that's how they

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Speaker 3: want to observe it. I don't know how the young

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Speaker 3: we would take advantage of that versus like what are

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Speaker 3: the guys doing now?

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Speaker 1: Well, I know for a fact that quarterbacks are looking

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Speaker 1: at it like that. Okay, because you're going from sign

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Speaker 1: language to real verbiageh Okay, the NFL, so you might

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Speaker 1: want to get past that curve, get off the cards

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Speaker 1: where they're just showing everything. That's not how you're going

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Speaker 1: to be playing ball, you know. So do you remember

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Speaker 1: that that clip of Chris Sims with John Gruden?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he couldn't repeat it, couldn't get it exactly,

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Speaker 3: and John Gruden was just coming at him.

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Speaker 1: That's the number one thing right there. So my guys

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Speaker 1: are getting that being able to get that out while

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Speaker 3: And so you don't want to change who you are,

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Speaker 3: So how do you keep that going?

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Speaker 1: You probably don't have to go on our UCLA Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: that changed my life. So you know, I know it

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00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: can change these kids' life, and I'm just trying to

435
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: make sure that I'm pouring into them how to become

436
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: a man, how to be a man, and how to

437
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 1: be consistent daily, because that's the number one thing at

438
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 1: this age. Can they be consistent daily? I just try

439
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: to make them do that. Have they been receptive to

440
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 1: that most definitely? I only had just recently had just

441
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: three people hit the portal, so you know the team's

442
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 1: support of their they've they've bought in. Yeah, with a

443
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: short amount of time, you know, but that's just because,

444
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: like you said, they knew who I was, they knew

445
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: what I stand for, And you know, I'm always keeping

446
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: a hunting with you might not be what you want

447
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: to hear, but at least you're gonna know this is

448
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 1: the honest truth. You know?

449
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: Is that hard dealing with like the portal, the nil

450
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: deals and all that is that is had a challenge

451
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 2: because obviously that wasn't the thing. It wasn't the thing

452
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 2: when we was around. That has changed a lot and

453
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: it has added a lot of dynamics to to you know,

454
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 2: college sports. So n I l portal. God doesn't like you. Up,

455
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: I'm leaving the portal.

456
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: You know.

457
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: Up, I didn't even playing time while I'm leaving the portal. Well,

458
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: look I'm trying to get paid. So look how much

459
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: am I getting paid? And what's how much am I playing?

460
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: Like? What's how how are you dealing with that? So

461
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: why did you pick Bama? So I picked Bama on it?

462
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: You want to know? Honestly, they bought my house.

463
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 2: You see blue chips, right, mama had Mama had a house,

464
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: His daddy had.

465
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: A new track.

466
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: There was a tractor in the back, tracked in the back,

467
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 2: all ready to go.

468
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: So sweet potatoes, No, he's just trying to go. So

469
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: I picked that was really good. That was good. I

470
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: picked Bama for three reasons. Uh.

471
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Speaker 3: Number one, I had Russell Athletic in high school and

472
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: Alabama was Nike. So you probably get a little bit

473
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 3: of love off of Jordan number two, the colors I

474
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 3: had in high school were similar to the colors I

475
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: had height in Alabama. And then the other one was

476
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: I liked the dB coach and that's the mound of

477
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: an eighteen year old.

478
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: Uh.

479
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 3: And so that was why I chose Alabama. My mom

480
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: didn't want me to leave the state. So I said, Okay,

481
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: she's like, you got six schools, picked one because nobody

482
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: my mom was not thinking like NFL. That wasn't on

483
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Speaker 3: my family's mind. Just go get an education, college, go

484
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 3: to college. You're going to go to college.

485
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Speaker 1: Okay, So that seemed relationship based, yes, because you like

486
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: the defense the der I did. Well, it's transactional now yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

487
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: it's not U that's still in there. Yeah, but it's

488
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: not the end all be all. That's not why we

489
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: have the portal. Yeah, because it's not relationship based. So

490
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: it's transactional. When I get over this transaction, then we

491
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: can build a relationship. And I don't really know if

492
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: this relationship is going to work. I'm just gonna get

493
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: out of here. And that's how we ended up where

494
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: we are. Now.

495
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: That makes a lot more sense, though, it does because

496
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: it well, the fact you're like, look, the relationship stuff

497
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: is nice.

498
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: It's great for us to talk about it, but it's

499
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: transactional now.

500
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: And so the fact that you already understand this, you're like, look,

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: this is just what it is.

502
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem like a lot of.

503
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 3: Other coaches where they struggle with some of these things

504
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: in a new era or new age of college football

505
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 3: or college sports, where it's like they're still yearning for

506
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 3: this relationship where they're coming to me, they're coming for

507
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: our program and what we are as the legacy and

508
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: all that other stuff, and you're like, nah.

509
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Speaker 1: What can you do for me right now? And what

510
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: can I get? But what how do you look at

511
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: this though?

512
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 3: Because me, I would be driving crazy and I'm like,

513
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: all right, I know you're looking for what you can

514
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: get out of us, but it's also like, dude, you'd

515
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 3: be like four.

516
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: String right now. Yeah. But another thing that helps me

517
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: is that our academic component kind of it gets filters

518
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah a little bit, yeah, because if you

519
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: want academics, you're not really chasing right certain things. Correct

520
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: what I'm yes, I'm I'm lucky enough to be at

521
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: a school where our academic component is at a certain level.

522
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Speaker 1: So that's going to make you, it's going to get

523
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Speaker 1: me certain type of kids. Y.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to talk about the importance of

525
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Speaker 2: being one of a black head coach and just having

526
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: a diverse coaching staff, Like I'm looking at what you

527
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: got right here, and this is this is impressive, and

528
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: I like what you're doing, and I like that you're

529
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Speaker 2: giving these these guys an opportunity and you're you're putting

530
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: them down and you're putting them on. Why was it

531
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: important for you to hire primarily from what I can

532
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: tell is a primarily a large black coaching staff.

533
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: I interviewed millions of people and these are the people

534
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: that I felt were the most qualified to come to

535
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Speaker 1: u c l A and teach these young men, no

536
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: matter what race, colored, creed, you know. And it it

537
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: just happenedly ended up being how that is but coach

538
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: being and he's a great coach. Coach Ted White, Eric Fraser,

539
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: these are all people I interviewed, and I was just

540
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: blown away. After an interview. I was like, man, they

541
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: really you know somebody that I can tell they want

542
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: to teach. That was the number one thing, because it's

543
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: not coaching people just think you're out there just yelling

544
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: at them. You have to teach.

545
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you got We've all I agree, you all

546
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: had that coach that got third something.

547
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: What the hell you're doing.

548
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: And you're looking like, yeah, yeah, you're looking like I

549
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: don't even know, I'm still waiting for the coach.

550
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Help right, Yeah, so I can be better? Ye, yeah,

551
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: help me. Yeah, I'm I couldn't say.

552
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: We've all gravitated to that coach that we knew was

553
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: teaching us that. Yeah, yes, even if it was the assistant,

554
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: it didn't matter who it was. We just saw he

555
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: has knowledge and he's teaching it. Yeah, let me go

556
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: over here and see and talk to him a little

557
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: bit more. So it just happiedly ended up that way.

558
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: You know. These were all the guys that I felt

559
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: were qualified for this job. Yeah, and I'm just excited

560
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: that you know that the players are responding to them.

561
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: They are and the community is supporting us the way

562
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: that they are too.

563
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, you said you you you you love this

564
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: game and you you were done at the age of

565
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: twenty eight, which is kind of a little young in

566
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: the league. What was Hunter Hill as far well, Yeah, yeah,

567
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate, but you know it's it's hunter.

568
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: We say they hate you. I think you're a good teammate.

569
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call it a dirty plate, but hey,

570
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: that happens as part of the game.

571
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: I apologize. Do you miss it? Yeah? You always miss it.

572
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: You always miss it, you go, I mean especially Saturdays

573
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: when I wake up, I'm out there on the grass.

574
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: That's you know. If I wasn't away from it, I

575
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: would Okay, yeah, you know, but too close. Yeah, it's

576
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: right there. I got it close. It's too close, you know,

577
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: but I do. It's a but it's it's a it's

578
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: a it's a good miss. Yeah, you know. It's just

579
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: something that you've done. That's the only thing I've done more.

580
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: The only other thing I've done more than football was school. Right,

581
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: you know this is I played from second to twenty eight,

582
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: twenty nine, so it's the same. That was life. Yeah. Now,

583
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: are you are you happy with how your career turned out?

584
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: I wish the injuries wouldn't have happened, but I didn't

585
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: see the path at that time, right, you see what

586
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, the injuries helped me get to this point.

587
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: I got you. I'm thinking I'm supposed to be at

588
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: another point. Yeah, it was just good that I don't

589
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: think it would get through all that and figure it out,

590
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: and now I found like my true calling.

591
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Do you think if you would have had a longer

592
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: career you would have still wanted to be a head

593
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: coach or just like nah, I just.

594
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I might have got that fixed

595
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: out of the way, understood, you know what I mean? Yeah,

596
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: not totally sure.

597
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: So so I can attest to what you said about

598
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: being close to the grass.

599
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: I was in Missouri last year.

600
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: We went and saw them in their opening game, and

601
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 3: you're like walking around in pregame and you're like you

602
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: naturally start looking at other players like yeah, yeah, yeah,

603
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: or like do that guy would not want to see?

604
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, like these things naturally start to come

605
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: out of us.

606
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: We can't help it. And so I totally understand. He's like, bro,

607
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: I could get like three carries.

608
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: Still like that. Now it still happens.

609
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: The thing I'm very proud of you is that you

610
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: went back and paid your dues as a coach, You

611
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: did a GA and back and.

612
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Finish your degree. How far away were you? Okay?

613
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: Yes, so not much so a couple semesters, you go back,

614
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: you finish your degree. You're like, no, I don't need

615
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if you wanted to, maybe

616
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: you can talk about that. But you went back and

617
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: did all those little things and laid the groundwork to

618
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: get yourself in position to where you are right now.

619
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: Do you really talk about that with your players, talking

620
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: about laying the groundwork or the foundation, being that consistent

621
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: guy every day that allowed you to be able to

622
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: get the opportunities you had today, or like, how do

623
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: you go about speaking about your journey, your path to

624
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: get you to where you are right now.

625
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: So I just didn't want to be handed anything. Yeah,

626
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, we were never handed anything in football, So

627
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: I truly wanted to work for it. I just happily

628
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: had to finish my degree so that chance happened at UCLA,

629
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: you know. But I didn't want to just come back

630
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: to UCLA and hand me a job. Yeah I should

631
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: be the running back coach. No, I'm gonna show you

632
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: that I should be a running back. Yeah, you know,

633
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in here, I'm gonna work every day.

634
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: I was thirty two when I started. I'm in the sweatbox.

635
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: We called it a sweatbox. I'm in the sweatbox with

636
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, you know what I mean, Like, that's what

637
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm doing the powerpoints for stuff. Like I

638
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: was ground level. Yeah right, me and Hey Suss my

639
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: camera started together. He's the head of the camera department.

640
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean of our video were up? Now?

641
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: What up? We up? You know? So it was just

642
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean like I started from the bottom. Yeah, and

643
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: I try not to say that all the time, but

644
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: it was truly. I just didn't want to be handed anything.

645
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: You gotta work for stuff. But it means more though

646
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I also want to know I'm saying like it.

647
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: I think it means more than when you can tell

648
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: your kids whoever was like, no, I got this position.

649
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: But do you know how I got this position? I

650
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: started here, I did this. I went from the bottom

651
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Speaker 2: to the top to here, mid level assistant coach as

652
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: a head coach. Now I'm a head coach. I got

653
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: my opportunity. I wasn't the kid who was just a

654
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: consultant and then someone said, hey, you want to be

655
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: the head coach? You know, no one called me up

656
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: one day and that I mean that does happen.

657
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: It does. I'm just saying I've seen crazier things.

658
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would also want to know this though, is

659
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: that do you see it? Because I have asked some

660
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: of my former teammates about this whole deal, the dynamic

661
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: that is former players being coaches versus non former players

662
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: that are coaches. How they view the former players as coaches.

663
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: I want to know your how have you had to

664
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: deal with that, because I know it's to think, like

665
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: everybody talks about it, it's like the non the non

666
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: playing coaches look at former players just a little bit different.

667
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna ruffle some feathers, see what you're doing. I

668
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: just want to talk about it. Let's just get this

669
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: out of here. It's just they don't think we could teach.

670
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? It's because you can play

671
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: the level you can play the game. They just don't

672
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: understand it. Yeah, I and teach it. We have a

673
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: master's in football, right, yeah, you have a master's in football.

674
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: You do think we got doctors and you know exactly

675
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so we know this. It's

676
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: second level. Yeah right, yeah, absolutely literally that, but you

677
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: might have to be taught how to teach, yeah, but

678
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: still go about it like that. But a lot of

679
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: guys they don't think that they actually worked hard in

680
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: football because it was always fun. But we knew it

681
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: was hard. That's what happens when they go into a

682
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: new business. They think that it just should be easy,

683
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: even though you worked so hard. Our body of work

684
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: was from second grade to you know what I mean.

685
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that junior season when I balled and left.

686
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: It was a It was a lot. It was a grind,

687
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, just to get the scholarship, just to play

688
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: varsity football first after freshman year, You're like, damn, I'm

689
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: going out there with the big boys. Now.

690
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's you know what I mean, like it

691
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: forget about it that the odds, the numbers is way

692
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: bigger fifteen on varses.

693
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a process to get there. But sometimes

694
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: they just think that we can't. But I was going

695
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: to show you, So I didn't have a problem with

696
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: any of that.

697
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: I think former players always have the advantage that we can,

698
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: especially the good ones. They can only teach you. But

699
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: I mean, if push comes show, I'm gonna get out

700
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: here and show you. To show you. That's the show you.

701
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: This is where you need to be. This how your

702
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: feet need to be. And so I love that.

703
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Stay tuned in.

704
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a quick break.

705
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: Hey, shout out to hey, suits man, we got a

706
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: camera on my man. Now shout out there he is,

707
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Get him on and get him some love. There you go,

708
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: we up. Now there it is okay.

709
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: So say saying that he's just like, uh, that's.

710
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: Uh, he's behind the scenes. Guy on.

711
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: You could be like garym Old with Jimmy Kimmel. Do

712
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: you got to keep you know what I'm saying, keeping it? Yeah,

713
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: let's go. I got one for you.

714
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: What was your welcome to the NFL moment? Did you?

715
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Did you have one of those get to the league

716
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: and it's just like, dang, that's okay, I'm in league

717
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: right now.

718
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: This is okay. I'm gonna give you a couple moments.

719
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: First off, Rodney pet was my quarterback my freshman year.

720
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I was a big baseball player too, so Rodney p

721
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: was like the he was that dude to me. Didn't

722
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: even know he was a huge baller.

723
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: I mean got drafted four times, crazy.

724
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: Like Rodney Pet was. So when he was on my team,

725
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: my rookie. I was like, damn, this is Rodney Pete. Yeah,

726
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's eighty eight. I was

727
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: eight when I was you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

728
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: think about that's Rodney pet ninety one when he's with

729
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: the Lions eleven. Like, this is Rodney pet My first

730
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: carry in the NFL, I went sixty seven, stiffed arm

731
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: Darryl Green. So that was like wow. And he ran

732
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: across the field and ran me down. Yeah.

733
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: So he still he was still still move fifty and

734
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: still moving the wheels.

735
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I'm gonna tell you a story on

736
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: how I got to wear that advisor.

737
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like, bro, you were cold with

738
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: the visor before anybody else had the dark Boy, he

739
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: was rocking it.

740
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: He looks scary. Yeah. So Donovan Darius, Yeah, playing safety.

741
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: We're playing Jacksonville my super Bowl. You'ar so second year.

742
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Run like a stretch to the right to the boundary

743
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: short side coming up the tackle right there, kind of

744
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: gave him a move. He got on me a little bit,

745
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: so I spun out of it. When I spun, he

746
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: grabbed me a little bit. So I'm hopping to get

747
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: out of the spin. You know. Yeah, back is to

748
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: the d HM. You know what he did, could cuss

749
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: everything out? Sleep Next week I got Advisor and now

750
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: we're here. Now we talked about how sweet I was

751
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: without Visor. That was my welcome to the NFL was

752
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: like dagn I knew I should and in my head

753
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking just get down. But I was like

754
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: college did this and got yeah, got out of it.

755
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: I can jump two or three times. I got time.

756
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: I got no, you don't, you do not have you

757
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: do not have time, you do don't welcome.

758
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no good. So I just I love. I mean.

759
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: This whole U c l a thing. It's just how

760
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: much pride do you take? Is like, you know, I

761
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: went to Texas Tech for a year.

762
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure love. It was awesome even though it's in

763
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere.

764
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: But coming back and now you're the guy for your

765
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: alma mater, Like is that really?

766
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: Like?

767
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: Man, how do you just wake up the next day

768
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: after the meeting or tell me how this call went to.

769
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: I want to know how the call went to, tell you, like, hey,

770
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: you're gonna You're gonna be the guy.

771
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: So I interviewed a couple of times zoom in person

772
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: and then Super Bowl Sunday, talk start again serious super

773
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday and then Martin called anybody the end of

774
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and was like, hey, come by my house,

775
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: let's talk. And Martin is our a day Martin Charmer

776
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: and then he was then once he called me and

777
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: said that, I was like, okay, this is this is serious. Yeah,

778
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: you know, and we were watching Super Bowl my house.

779
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: I was with my wife and it was just like

780
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. I'm gonna be back. And

781
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: when I came back.

782
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: And wanted like you come with me, and like, nah,

783
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: I'm just by myself.

784
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: I guess when the ad calls, you do gotta go yeeah.

785
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: So I left, came back and I just walked in.

786
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: We had a small conversation and he was like you

787
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: ready to be the next head coach at U C

788
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: l A. And I was like yep, and now we're here.

789
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: But it was a it was more of a process.

790
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: It was a long process in that, but I'm not yeah,

791
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: it was it was you know, zoom, face to face interview,

792
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: just paying the picture for them, letting them see exactly

793
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: exactly what my vision was, you know, And I was

794
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: just glad that they were able to see.

795
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: It, and so does it make you feel any type

796
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: of way that I've read a couple of articles about

797
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: your former teammates saying that like, we could totally envision

798
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: this guy being the head coach just because of the

799
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: work ethic, and quoting Steven Davis, he said, he understands

800
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: the little things about winning every day.

801
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: But I guess you guys are still really good friends.

802
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: And so when you hear your former teammates honor you

803
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: with praise to say about no, actually, this guy showed

804
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: all the signs. We just weren't paying attention all the

805
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: way back when, and so they're not surprised at all

806
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: when they see you in this position, even though some

807
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: of us may be Does that give you pride? Does

808
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: that give you a sense of Okay, they did see

809
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: my work ethic, even though I may not have always

810
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: shown it or be in front of the camera. But

811
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: what I did on a day to day basis kind

812
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: of showed everybody who I am a person.

813
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't even where a big dog said that, But

814
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I send you the article. Yeah, he

815
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: because that's coming from somebody that taught me the game,

816
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: Like my game elevated watching him play, seeing how you

817
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: watched film, just you know, just going about being a pro.

818
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Like my game elevated with him because he came the

819
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: second year. But that's just good because you never know

820
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: if people saw what was going on, how you're working,

821
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you just put your head

822
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: down in work, so it didn't matter even if you

823
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: weren't getting the praise. You're still gonna work because that's

824
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: just what you know. But I'm glad that I was

825
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: able to you know that might they can see that

826
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't the opposite, like, oh hell now

827
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: you get the job. You know, I have seen that before.

828
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, hell no, I ain't always gonna come out

829
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: at some point for some people. Definitely, That's that's how

830
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. So super Bowl third, that was I

831
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: think that was O three. That was my rookie. That

832
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: was my rookie year.

833
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: What's your biggest memory from from that Super Bowl? Everybody

834
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: texting me about Janet Jackson, But I played all what

835
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: a call? What a call? I forgot about that. Yeah,

836
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: shout of the shout out, shut out.

837
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: Oh god, he put the camera down, he put the

838
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: camera down.

839
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that's what you That was it.

840
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: That'd mean, wow, that's it. Nothing about the.

841
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Guests, Okay, I mean it looks set up. God yeah,

842
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was set up to person. I was like,

843
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: they just publicity. Oh it wasn't. Okay, oh man, okay

844
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: that way. I wasn't expected that when.

845
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: That one caught me off guard. But Thomas, there you go.

846
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: He knew that. That's why he was hoping. He was

847
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: hoping for it. And please say have time show, please

848
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: say have time? Yes got him? Oh my gosh.

849
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: So we got to go back because this is the

850
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 3: most amazing stat about you that unless you know you,

851
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: you you really don't know, and that is that you

852
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: almost rush for four thousand yards in high school. Oh yeah,

853
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: three thousand, nine ninety eight number one. Why do they

854
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 3: not push you forward for two more yards to get

855
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 3: four k fifty something touchdowns? Which I guess you recruited

856
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: a running back that actually broke your record.

857
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? But that is crazy? How is that

858
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: young man doing? So he's playing for the Redskins? Now, okay, okay,

859
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: the commanders, Yes, it's all fine. You good, Yeah, no worries,

860
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: you good?

861
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: Some actually native groups in that area actually want them

862
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: to go back.

863
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: They said that was a big chief of theirs, that

864
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: the demo. But anyway, yes, so he's playing for the

865
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Speaker 1: Commanders still fast. He was a ten to two one

866
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: hundred meter runner one state California. But he scored seventy

867
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Speaker 1: four touchdown senior year. Who was he playing? One season?

868
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: One year? One year? Did anybody else score a touchdown

869
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: for this team? Apparently not. It's like seventy seven touchdowns

870
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: in fourteen games. That's all you s? Yeah, that's I mean,

871
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: that's ridic impressive. Yeah, very impressive. Cas Allen, that's his name,

872
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: Kasmere Allen, Cashmere Allen.

873
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: And so I got to know when you're on this

874
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: run of like almost four thousand.

875
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: Yards, what is it?

876
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: What was a normal game for you? And then what

877
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this is my highlight game?

878
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: Okay. So I got lucky because all of my teammates,

879
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: all the other running backs, were you're ahead of me. Okay.

880
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: So my junior year we had three running backs over

881
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: one thousand. Oh so y'all just tote the rock. Yeah,

882
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna run that rock now. And we had another

883
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: dude with eight hundred, so we're running the rock. Yes, ouch, yeah,

884
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: they all graduated. Okay, so it's just all you. That's it.

885
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't We didn't change the offense. Man, I'm just

886
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: getting everybody else's carries now, Okay. Everybody else graduated, went

887
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: to college, and I was just I was the youngest

888
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: one of our whole crew. Quarterback must have been trash.

889
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: He can't throw. We just running the ball around. He's

890
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: he's pitching it and leading blocking. Pitch that and leave

891
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: block man go in. He was a catcher too, so

892
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: you know he's a tough dude. I got you, I

893
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: got you.

894
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: So, uh, here's a question we like to ask everybody

895
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: who is on your personal Mount rushmore of your success

896
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: on the field, off the field where you are today

897
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: right now, and it's four if.

898
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: You Yeah, So I'm gonna go both my parents, my wife,

899
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Charity because I just got married too. So oh I

900
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: saw the pictures. My wife follows you with just with

901
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: all the favor I've gotten since that's happened, it's been

902
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: hall of fame. My daughter, the head coach, the raider

903
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: job before that, then the head coach, you know, just

904
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: all of that, and then I think I'm up there

905
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: as probably my high school coach, just because he was

906
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: somebody that, you know, like Pops already was preaching the

907
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: discipline aspects, you know, but just to get it from

908
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: somebody else too. That Yeah, that's how you know, because

909
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: that could get repetitive. I know he would stay honest.

910
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: You know. We had I think my last year in

911
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, oh eight, we had the most guys in

912
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. Six guys. Yeah, oh your high school did

913
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: my high school diad? Yeah? So my remember that was

914
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: my high school coach. Mhm. So I put him up there.

915
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I like that. What else you got?

916
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just so impressed by this young man.

917
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: I just heard Thomas in my ear trying to talk something,

918
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: but I'm not listening to Thomas. So yeah, you know,

919
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: I want to talk about one thing because I was

920
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: just in the Rose Bowl. How do you look like?

921
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: The Rose Bowl has all the lore all this, like,

922
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, the Rose Bowl, the granddaddy of them all.

923
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: Beautiful stadium, beautiful backdrop. But man, I know you don't

924
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: have to deal with this, but go into the restroom.

925
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Now. I went to the I went to the Michigan

926
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: Alabama game.

927
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: So okay, and I was in the stands, so you

928
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: understand the struggle.

929
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's I don't know this problem because I don't know,

930
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: it is a whole situation.

931
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: That and then trying to get out of there, it

932
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 3: was you don't have a you need security.

933
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you need security.

934
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: Seriously, I've never been Maybe when y'all go this year,

935
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming to a game. Were

936
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: coming to coach. I'm gonna teach camera folk, camera three.

937
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: I'm teaching y'all to peanup punch. Y'all gonna have all

938
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: all types of turnovers and takeaways defense.

939
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: That's what they're about. Now. We should just get We

940
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: should have did this from the school that it's right

941
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: from our little patio overlooking the field. I would have

942
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: loved that then. I wanted.

943
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: I would I would give like I want recruiting pitches.

944
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: I want to walk around in facility because I've never

945
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: seen U c l A.

946
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean Alabama, so like I don't know, chake us out.

947
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hall at DB's that's keeping safety at y'all.

948
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: Definitely teach y'all to take take away punches. I gotta

949
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: I got a doctorates in it.

950
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: How does that feel to actually have something that is

951
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: being taught, like with your name connected to it.

952
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: It's humbling. It's it feels good, uh, but it's it's humbling.

953
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Like you said earlier, the hard work. Like I didn't

954
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: just wake up and.

955
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: Black all right, I'm just doing this.

956
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: Then it was a process. It graduated, and I graduated

957
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: to what it is today. A coach put it in

958
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: my ear and then I was like okay, and then

959
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: I did it one way, and when I got to

960
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: the league, I had to adapt and do it a

961
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: different way because what I was doing in college wouldn't

962
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: work in the league. So I had to master my

963
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: craft and just watching film and doing it over and over.

964
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: I got my ten thousand reps and I became a

965
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: master at this specific move. And I like that high school, college,

966
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: NFL they teach it. So I'm just like, yeah, I

967
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: love my mark. Yeah, so I'm proud of that. That's amazing.

968
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Speaker 1: And I got to be honest, you left your mark

969
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: on football, not the NFL football, Like you said, all

970
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: levels are doing that. Yeah, Like that's amazing, thank you. Yeah,

971
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Speaker 1: that's truly, man. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, all right, Man,

972
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: we get us out of here. You know you got it?

973
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I got it, Deshaun. Hey, we appreciate you

974
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: boss this week. Thanks this was this was awesome. Thank

975
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: you for blessing us. Thank y'all for listening, tuning in, like, share, subscribe, follow,

976
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Speaker 2: give us a five star rating.

977
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978
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Speaker 2: Us, Spread the love, spread some love, telor friend and

979
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Speaker 2: tell a friend Hello, what hey, I'll p nuck rome

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Speaker 1: Thank you, y