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Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: I'm Doug copy in Poor Colin cowherd add for the

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Speaker 4: next hour, I want to talk sports with you. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's my that's flax. I can do a little of

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Speaker 4: the cullor.

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Speaker 3: That's about all I got.

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Speaker 4: Happy fourth of July to you.

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Speaker 3: It's weird, you know.

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Speaker 4: The crew is in southern California. I'm in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: And the difference, like we gotta have a fireworks discussion

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Speaker 4: at some point because if you grew up in California

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Speaker 4: or you spend lots of time in California, you know,

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Speaker 4: because of fire hazard, like and what's crazy about fire

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Speaker 4: hazard is fourth of July in southern California. It's everyone

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Speaker 4: seems to have a legal fireworks everyone, but generally frowned

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Speaker 4: upon and not sold at you're the fireworks you can

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Speaker 4: get at the local fireworks stand is like those little roses,

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Speaker 4: you know, like you can light up like ten ofvot

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Speaker 4: once and they spin around.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: I do think that there's a there's a cottage industry

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Speaker 4: of making fireworks that I would love to know the

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Speaker 4: developmental things, because some of the things are the same

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Speaker 4: as they've been less like, well, you've seen one fireworks thing,

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Speaker 4: you've seen them all. They do some cool stuff. But

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Speaker 4: like what I was watching, I was at my country club,

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Speaker 4: but not a country club in Green Bay, wiscons. It's

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Speaker 4: actually Howard and we're watching the fireworks show last night.

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Speaker 4: The fireworks go off, and there's some of them where

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Speaker 4: they have like a second and third act. They blow

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Speaker 4: up and then they go on to you know, all this,

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Speaker 4: and then there's like hearts or then there's other little things.

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Speaker 4: So the trail comes down and I just I like,

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Speaker 4: I want to know who's developing these things, Where are

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Speaker 4: they developing, who comes up with it, How are the

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Speaker 4: substances put together? What goes because for all these things

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Speaker 4: that go right. This actually feels like a Jason Stewart

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Speaker 4: one on one thing, right, Jase, do you know this,

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Speaker 4: in order for those fireworks to go right, now, they

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Speaker 4: had to have gone wrong a thousand times over in

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Speaker 4: trying to develop a firework there.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you would think, so, you think that's a lot

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Speaker 5: of trial and error. Got to be in a controlled area.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, So where are these things developed? Who are

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Speaker 4: these people who are developing them? You know, it's a lot.

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Speaker 4: There's that Seinfeld bit where he talks about seedless watermelon,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I'm paraphrasing a little bit where he's like,

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Speaker 4: not cure for cancer, but somebody thought that is just

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Speaker 4: too much to take if you can develop. However, they

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Speaker 4: develop these fireworks to where they shoot off, they explode

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Speaker 4: in a multitude of colors, but the colors are perfectly controlled,

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Speaker 4: and then they can explode again and form hearts in

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Speaker 4: the sky. Right, you have an amazing talent with your

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Speaker 4: use of chemistry. To use that on fireworks seems like

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Speaker 4: a bit of a waste. But again, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much these fireworks shows cost. I'm

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Speaker 4: fastered by the fireworks industry and I also wonder if

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Speaker 4: the people who work at those fireworks stores, if they're

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Speaker 4: the same people who work at the pumpkin patch, the

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Speaker 4: same people who work at the Christmas tree stores, you know,

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Speaker 4: the pop up Christmas trees where you can go and

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Speaker 4: go get your Christmas tree. The Halloween costs. What are

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Speaker 6: West Spirit huh Spirit Halloween? Yes, yeah, those are everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, but they're only around Halloween, right, I think.

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Speaker 6: They are now they changed their business model. I think

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Speaker 3: Now, how's that working out for?

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Speaker 6: I do not give out financial advice.

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Speaker 5: I'll always say this that Instagram was amazing for the

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Speaker 5: costume industry and costume parties and everything else. Instagram Basically,

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Speaker 5: I I want to see the I want to see

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Speaker 5: the financial breakdown of how much that has impacted costume salespeople. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Usually if I see like a picture of like a

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Speaker 4: Yet these stores pop up everywhere, so yeah, people must

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Speaker 6: But they're also they're also getting a lot of lots

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, bed Bath and Beyond. All the bed

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Speaker 5: I was trying to do a quick search on how

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Speaker 5: these things are made, and I'm not getting anywhere, but

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Speaker 5: I will say this, fireworks are crafted by professionals called pyrotechnicians.

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Speaker 5: A pyrotechnician is a professional that handles safe storage, handling,

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Speaker 5: and function and fireworks. I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how many jobs are available like that, but that's a

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Speaker 5: pretty badass name just to draw, you know, name for

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Speaker 4: My son is like he's legit gone, Like what does

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Speaker 4: it take to be a pyrotechnician? That sounds like fun.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of every I would say of if you

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Speaker 4: ask teenage boys, right, you did a breakdown of like

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Speaker 4: what would the coolest jobs be? They're like, you know,

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Speaker 4: professional athlete, rocker, rap star, probably somebody on TV?

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Speaker 6: Do we still do astronaut? Is that still a no?

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Speaker 4: No, no, nope, nope, Because then they find out like

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Speaker 4: you had a lot of math and science, Like yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm good. Now, there's probably a lot of math, uh

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Speaker 4: and and chemistry to being a pyrotechnician. But if you

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Speaker 4: say like, well I'm a pyrotechnician, like that's a cool name,

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Speaker 4: and then they say like what is that? I blow

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Speaker 4: stuff up? Like well, that's kind of awesome. What you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you were asking earlier, like what they do when

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Speaker 6: it's not you know, fireworks season. And I've got to imagine,

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Speaker 6: like I don't know, you what was who was the

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Speaker 6: but they had but that was from pyrotechnics. So I

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Speaker 6: imagine when it's not Fourth of July season, you're just

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Speaker 6: but it's kind of the same stuff. You're just kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, has Here's another question which I think we know

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Speaker 4: people's jobs, have drone shows taking pyrotechnicians.

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Speaker 6: Jobs, not yet, But as someone who owns a cat

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Speaker 6: here in Los Angeles, I kind of wish they'd be

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Speaker 6: know that won't stop with drone shows, but I've seen

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Speaker 6: look they look very impressive to like align that many

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Speaker 4: No, they have them here. They're they're incredible. There is

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Speaker 4: something still about blowing stuff up that we like as Americans, right,

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, it's the same thing, but does as

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Speaker 4: something actually explode?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah No. When I was younger, we could we

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Speaker 4: And and there's also the could we die? And could

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Speaker 4: we could it all burn up? Like now like yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not really into it. It's like, no, it looks

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Speaker 4: way better visually, incredibly impressive.

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Speaker 3: You have these all these.

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Speaker 4: Thousands of drones, you know, spelling out people's name, incursive

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Speaker 4: and looking like in a three D light show.

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Speaker 3: You're like, that's great.

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Speaker 4: Could we die?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't the time.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing more American than something that technologically is so

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Speaker 4: unbelievably advanced and like yeah, but doesn't blow stuff up.

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Speaker 4: So like I kind of like the blow stuff up.

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Speaker 6: Guy as a as a coach because I keep thinking

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Speaker 6: Jason Pierre Paul and I know there was an incident

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Speaker 6: with uh yes, a couple other players, but yeah, I

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Speaker 6: was gonna say, is this isn't the time of year

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Speaker 4: My guys weren't really into my guys. Like I was like,

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Speaker 4: how many guys like ever you know, mess with fireworks?

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Speaker 3: Like none of them were really into it.

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Speaker 4: But I just you know, we yes, you have to

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Speaker 4: pay attention to but you also pay attention to hey,

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Speaker 4: wherever you're going tonight, like just stay there because people

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Speaker 4: not blowing anything up, like just don't do it.

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Speaker 6: No Roman candle candles, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Just none of them. It is not worth not worth

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, if you need a ride wherever

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Speaker 3: I'll send you an uber and get you home. I

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Speaker 4: But we're not we're not getting behind the wheel and

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Speaker 4: we're not driving when anybody's been drinking and after you know,

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Speaker 4: eleven o'clock, honestly probably shouldn't be out of the road,

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Speaker 4: believe it or not. So that's just how we how

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Speaker 4: we handle it. But yeah, you have to have those

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Speaker 4: conversations because at the end of the day, I'm responsible

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Speaker 4: for him, you know, I have a twenty eight year

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Speaker 4: still responsible for him, so still my guy. Anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just I think it's a bit of an underserved

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Speaker 4: every year we call these people and here they have

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Speaker 4: just these explosive devices.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they set them off. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how much it costs. I don't know what's in

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Speaker 3: these things. I don't know how they're developed. Actually kind

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Speaker 3: of fascinated by it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we don't know these things because it's not fascinating

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Speaker 4: and it's really simple, or they're all made in China

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Speaker 4: and we can't get any information. Doug Gollibin for calling

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Speaker 4: this is the herd. Yeah, let's do this. Let's talk

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Speaker 4: some Lebron with Mark Stein, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: just some of the stuff doesn't make sense. I just

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Speaker 4: like things that make sense. Maybe that's why I'm interested

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Speaker 4: in the pyrotechnics. Just make it make sense to be

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Speaker 4: tell me what the process is between how it goes

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Speaker 4: up and explodes. How many different like I don't know

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Speaker 4: what they're even called entails there are how it works.

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Speaker 3: I just like things to make sense.

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Speaker 4: Lebron James and the whole messaging from Rich Paul doesn't

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Speaker 2: All that being said.

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Speaker 8: We still don't know where Yannis stands. Teams around the

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Speaker 3: You need to pick it up.

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Speaker 4: He's covered the NBA for quarter century. Really, he joins

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Speaker 4: directly over but to success. We know that's not how

438
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Speaker 4: it works. But who's the guy who is most likely

439
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Speaker 4: to be the next Damian Lillard or Brad Beale? Great

440
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 4: player moved and again we're gonna try it again, which is,

441
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Speaker 4: we'll see if it translates on one of the elite teams.

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Speaker 8: Well, look, I think those situations are I would say

443
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Speaker 8: a little bit different because the Bucks traded for Gamian Lillard,

444
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Speaker 8: because Jannis wanted to play with Damian Lillard, and that

445
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 8: was very much out of the playbook of look John

446
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 8: Horast the Buffs CM twice. He traded for Drew Holliday.

447
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 8: Jannis immediately did a contract extension in response to that trade,

448
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Speaker 8: and the Bucks went out and won, went.

449
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Speaker 2: Won a championship.

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Speaker 8: They did it again. He trades for Damian Lillard. Jannis

451
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Speaker 8: signs another contract extension in response to that move. Obviously,

452
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Speaker 8: the Lillard gamble did not work out so well. On

453
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Speaker 8: the Beal situation, the Suns were, you know, as that

454
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Speaker 8: deal was coming together, there was great skepticism that that

455
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Speaker 8: could work. So the Sons, I think did that more

456
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Speaker 8: out of you know, that was you know, matt Ishbia

457
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Speaker 8: just as he went all in for Kevin Durant. And

458
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 8: again the Sons were able to trade Kevin Durant to Houston,

459
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Speaker 8: but compared what they got for to what they gave up.

460
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Speaker 8: The Sons gave up four first round picks, a first

461
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Speaker 8: round pick swap, and Cam Johnson and Michale Bridges to

462
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Speaker 8: get Durant. They didn't get nearly did they get half

463
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Speaker 8: back of what they gave up. And then they doubled

464
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Speaker 8: down by bringing in Beale to join Durant and Devin

465
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Speaker 8: Booker when a lot of people said, these are three

466
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Speaker 8: offensive minded players who all like to operate in the

467
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Speaker 8: mid range, don't do this well. The Suns did it anyway,

468
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Speaker 8: So I don't really compare those two moves because, like

469
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Speaker 8: I said, I think Milwaukee had ample justification to roll

470
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Speaker 8: the dice on the Dame Lillard move and it just

471
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Speaker 8: didn't work. And going for Drew Holiday did work. So

472
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Speaker 8: I mean, and now with Miles Turner, this is the

473
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Speaker 8: third big swing from the Bucks John Horse led front

474
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Speaker 8: office and won't see how it turns out. I mean,

475
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Speaker 8: there's no shortage of skepticism this time too. In so

476
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Speaker 8: who's next? I think you also have to factor in

477
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Speaker 8: in the new NBA with these luxury tax aprons, Like

478
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Speaker 8: it's really hard to like just those kind of salaries

479
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Speaker 8: in general, you don't want to have more than two.

480
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Speaker 8: I mean, you're it's really hard to have three high

481
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Speaker 8: salaried players and build any kind of team around them

482
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Speaker 8: because of what the second apron does in terms of

483
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Speaker 8: taking away your team building tools. You know, when the

484
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Speaker 8: when the MAVs, when you know, if I go back

485
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Speaker 8: to February, there was all this talk that, oh, now

486
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Speaker 8: the mass you're going to try to get Durant to

487
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 8: play with Kyrie and Anthony Davis. They were never going

488
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Speaker 8: after Kevin Durant. They didn't want a three star construction

489
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Speaker 8: because they know it's not sustainable. What's what makes their

490
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Speaker 8: construction now, because you're getting Cooper Flagg to be that

491
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Speaker 8: third star, but he's going to be on a rookie

492
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Speaker 8: deal for the next three plus years, so that makes

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Speaker 8: it that, you know, that's where the difference is. I mean,

494
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Speaker 8: it's just it's really hard to build an NBA team

495
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Speaker 8: with three very expensive contracts.

496
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Speaker 4: Last thing here, Mike Brown with the New York Knicks.

497
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Speaker 4: What's the league's reaction to the higher.

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Speaker 8: I think it's somewhat been muted because it's happening in

499
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Speaker 8: the throes of free agency, and as we move away

500
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Speaker 8: from free agency and as the whole league gets ready

501
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Speaker 8: to gather in Vegas that it will generate more discussion.

502
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Speaker 8: But it really the reaction hasn't changed. The shock in

503
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Speaker 8: New York was not that they made a coaching change,

504
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Speaker 8: I mean discontent with Tom Thibodeau. There were rumblings about that.

505
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Speaker 8: You know, before this season I mean, it's not a

506
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Speaker 8: new thing. What shocked everybody is they didn't appear to

507
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Speaker 8: have a succession plan in place. You figure, if you're

508
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Speaker 8: going to fire the most successful coach you've had in

509
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Speaker 8: the twenty first century, you know exactly who you're going

510
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Speaker 8: to get. And yeah, I cannot wait for the ultimate

511
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Speaker 8: press conference because they're going to have to answer that question.

512
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Speaker 8: Even if Mike Brown and rowed them in the interview process,

513
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Speaker 8: even if Mike Brown is the right guy, because of

514
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Speaker 8: what the Knicks did, because they went after five other

515
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Speaker 8: coaches who were not available, it just gives the impression

516
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Speaker 8: that at best, Mike Brown was your sixth choice and

517
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 8: he's going to have to live with that. But also,

518
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Speaker 8: by the time camp comes around and the season starts,

519
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Speaker 8: does it really matter. I mean, if he can get

520
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 8: the job done, that will gradually fade. But of course,

521
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Speaker 8: you know, Mike Brown is also known as a defensive

522
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Speaker 8: minded coach like Tibbs. So is he really bringing a

523
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 8: different approach to what the Knicks have done? Then Thibodeau

524
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Speaker 8: has and will only know that and see that with time.

525
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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, I don't you know, the Knicks

526
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 8: are not being celebrated and lauded here because their process

527
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 8: was just so weird.

528
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Speaker 4: Mark Stein, check out the substack called signline. Mark, You're

529
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: the best man. Happy fourth, be safe and thanks for

530
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Speaker 4: joining us.

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Speaker 8: Happy fourth. All of you guys be good.

532
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Speaker 4: This is this is the herd. I'm Doug Allibin for Collin.

533
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Speaker 4: Let's get to Jason Stewart with the news.

534
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is the headline news.

535
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Speaker 5: Hey, Doug, let's pick up right where you two left off.

536
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: Let's pick up where you left off. The news on

537
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: the Mike Brown situation is this. I know the whole

538
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: thing is going to happen, but the news is I

539
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: saw a report today where they've agreed verbally only and

540
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: that the contractor will be signed officially next week, where

541
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Speaker 5: I presume there will be a press conference. I want

542
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: to know your opinion on this. We just got Mark

543
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: Stein's opinion on this, but what's your opinion on them

544
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 5: landing on Mike Brown after as as Mark Sein just said,

545
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: a awkward, strange process that alienated a bunch of trade partner.

546
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Speaker 4: Listen, I think Mike I consider my a friend. I

547
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: like Mike a lot. I thought he did a really

548
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 4: good job in Sacramento. I thought they actually remember they

549
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: played really fast, which will be a change obviously from

550
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: how they played and played slow in New York. But

551
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: hasn't been an emphasis on playing fast. You know, so

552
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: much of the NBA is about respecting the locker room.

553
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: You can't get inspector locker unless you win. You can't

554
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Speaker 4: win unless he has respect the locker room. He's the

555
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: guy who's he coached Lebron to an NBA finals, to

556
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: a West Eastern Conference finals as well, obviously got the

557
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: Kings of the playoffs. And you know what I've heard

558
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: with the Knicks is one of the bigger issues is

559
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: Rick Brunson, is that, you know, there's a feeling that

560
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: he wields too much power, and even though his son's

561
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: the best player on that team and the leader of

562
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Speaker 4: that team, it doesn't necessarily work well with some of

563
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Speaker 4: those some of those guys. So how Mike works with Rick,

564
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Speaker 4: because Rick is not leaving that staff despite the coaching change,

565
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Speaker 4: I think is probably the most interesting part. But yeah,

566
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Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, initially, you cannot fire Tom

567
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: Thibodeau unless you're going to hire somebody who's been to

568
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Speaker 4: the point and maybe beyond where Tips has been in

569
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Speaker 4: the playoffs. Mike fits that, so I actually think it's

570
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: pretty good.

571
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Speaker 3: Higher he's coached for the Lakers.

572
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Speaker 4: That didn't work, but you know, with you, either when

573
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: you fail at something, you either blame everybody else or

574
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: you learn from it and improve. I thought he'd learned

575
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: from it, and he's a better coach than Sacramento that

576
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Speaker 4: he was in La.

577
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Speaker 5: Doug. For those who have not heard, Joey Chestnutt won

578
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: his seventeenth Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest earlier today after

579
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Speaker 5: skipping a year. Remember he was banned last year over

580
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 5: some controversy over fake hot dogs. The details on the

581
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: win today are he eate actually seventy and a half

582
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Speaker 5: hot dogs. Don't allow people out there to tell you

583
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Speaker 5: that he ate seventy one. It's seventy and a half,

584
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 5: which is five and a half short of his own

585
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 5: record of seventy six hot dogs in ten minutes.

586
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: I slip it.

587
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: And our guy Patrick bertle Letty, which we just don't

588
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: hear enough about this guy, came in second place. He

589
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 5: finished with forty six and a half. So Joey chestnut

590
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Speaker 5: just just completely dominating the field today. And this is

591
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Speaker 5: what he had to say as his digestive system, went

592
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Speaker 5: to work on seventy and a half hot Dogs. He

593
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 5: did an interview on ESPN.

594
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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, Yeah, I was nervous first cot of

595
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 9: hot Dogs. I was fumbling a little bit, but I

596
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 9: found a pretty good rhythm. My goal was seventy to

597
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Speaker 9: seventy seven. I really wanted a little bit more. But

598
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Speaker 9: you know what, dude, there's actually here and I I'm

599
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 9: just happy on my area and happy four the July.

600
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Speaker 2: It took physically being.

601
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Speaker 9: Here, and sometimes sometimes it's hard to showing up as

602
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 9: the hardest part sometimes, but I love being here. And

603
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Speaker 9: as soon as I found out I was coming in

604
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Speaker 9: my body, it was easy to train and I love

605
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Speaker 9: doing it and I love pushing myself and being that.

606
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: I gotta people, what does training look like?

607
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to know, right.

608
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Speaker 3: I mean, what does that actually look like?

609
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: I don't know?

610
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: Pastic anyway?

611
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: Sorry?

612
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: What was that? Was there a question there? Or what

613
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 4: do I think of it?

614
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 8: You know?

615
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: You know what I don't want.

616
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 4: I don't want somebody to go like seventeen championships. Where

617
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 4: does this rank all time in sports? Is this better

618
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 4: than UCLA's championships under John Wood?

619
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Speaker 3: Like please don't do that.

620
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm begging people in sports trading and sports media don't

621
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Speaker 4: compare them to the Yankees, the Celtics, the Lakers, the Chiefs,

622
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 4: the Patriots, UCLA basketball, Alabama football, Notre Dame football, and

623
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Speaker 4: Johnny Luke Jack.

624
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: Now, don't do that, Okay.

625
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 4: It's a made up competition where dude has somehow cracked

626
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: the code on how to stuff as gullet with seventy

627
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: and a half hot dogs in I don't know what

628
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: it is five minutes.

629
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Speaker 3: It's not a sport. It's cool, but let's just not

630
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: compare the two.

631
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: Well, our technical producer Chris Burfette today had a hot

632
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: take earlier off the air. I'll let him. I'll let

633
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 5: him explain this take on the air, but it's go

634
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: something like this, No Joey Chestnut Championship is without an

635
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 5: asterisk because Kobayashi is no longer doing it. There's something

636
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 5: like that, Chris.

637
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have a lot of deep thoughts to this.

638
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 6: I just I feel like without seeing Kobayashi, who is

639
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 6: arguably kind of up there with Joey Chestnut, I feel

640
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: like we were just deprived of seeing these two going

641
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 6: back and forth as long as we are and now

642
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 6: with Joey Chestnut missing the year and everything, like there's

643
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 6: there's daylight here. I find the departure of Kobayashi kind

644
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 6: of a little bull and yeah, yeah, it's it's like, hey,

645
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 6: he've got two of the greatest to ever do it,

646
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: but you know we're gonna arbitrarily keep this one guy out.

647
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: Wait, so Kobeyashi's not can't be in.

648
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 5: He's been banned since twenty ten. Since twenty ten, has

649
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: been banned.

650
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah for what.

651
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: Was he gambling on himself? Did he throw a first

652
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: pitch that was way way way outside and there was

653
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: betting irregularities? Like do we have any idea what he's

654
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: been banned for? I just thought he fell off.

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Speaker 5: It's some violation of a contract or something. And then

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Speaker 5: they had bad blood. Remember he showed up at the

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Speaker 5: he got banned from the twenty ten event, showed up

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Speaker 5: at the twenty eleven event and then went up on

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Speaker 5: stage to congratulate the winner, and like they had police

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Speaker 5: escort him.

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Speaker 3: What.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it was literally just because it's a contractual

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Speaker 6: band between him and Nathan's Hot Dogs. It's not like

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Speaker 6: he cheated or gambled or anything. It's just it's it's

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Speaker 6: he he did. I think he did some sort of

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Speaker 6: eating contest that wasn't sanctioned by Nathan's Does he?

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Speaker 4: So they're like the NCAA, like, you're not saying she

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Speaker 4: you can't do it? So does he perform an other

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Speaker 4: eating competition?

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Speaker 5: He does? He has? Yes? And is he?

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Speaker 3: Is he as good as Joey Chesna.

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Speaker 2: I that's the problem. The world will never know.

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Speaker 3: Will never know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think that's much of a hot take.

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Speaker 4: That's a That's why I had no idea. It's I

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Speaker 4: felt like that was ben Kenoby to say the jokes.

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Speaker 3: Say the joke, Jason say the joke. It's so good.

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Speaker 5: Well, I would like to take ownership over the joke.

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Speaker 5: But Seth McFarlin, through his his movie about Star Wars,

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Speaker 5: made the joke that like remember that scene when Luke

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Speaker 5: and R two watch Princess Leah say Obi wan Kenoby,

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Speaker 5: you're my only hope and Luke says, I wonder if

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Speaker 5: she means old. Ben Kenoby and Seth McFarland's joke is

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Speaker 5: the uh. The Imperial Forces are trying to rid the

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Speaker 5: universe of jedis they almost did it. Then Kenobi's hiding

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Speaker 5: in a cave in Tattooine and he decides not to

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Speaker 5: change his last name, just his first name. They'll never find.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Well, when I when I heard Kobeyashi, I thought, that's

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Speaker 4: the name I have.

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Speaker 3: Not heard a long long time, a long long time.

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Speaker 4: What else you got, Jaysu?

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Speaker 5: That's it all right?

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news and stopping the Herd line news.

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Speaker 4: Oh. Doug Gottlieben for Colin Coward coming up next best

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Speaker 4: for last what we say?

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Speaker 3: You'll have to tune in next in ther.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a im Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Doug Alligan for Collins The Herd, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Do Doo doo doo do doodle do.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh.

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Speaker 3: I love this time of year.

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Speaker 4: Really kind of the this is a good sports reset

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Speaker 4: time of year. You know, it's like we just kind

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Speaker 4: of end of the sports year. I know, you're like, well,

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Speaker 4: it's the middle of baseball season. Like yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: it's still it's stilly end of the sports here. But

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Speaker 4: I hope you have a great, safe fourth July and uh,

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Speaker 4: calling back on Monday before we get there, though, get's

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Speaker 4: get to the Best for Last.

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Speaker 2: It's almost the end of the show. But that doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean we're phoning it in. Nope, we grind the very

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Speaker 2: last segment. It's time for best for Last.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So for Best for Last, Jay stew I thought

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Speaker 4: the very easiest thing to do was, you know, we

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Speaker 4: saw your boy KB and he was on social media

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Speaker 4: today and he was he was helping people understand the

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Speaker 4: difference between a cookout and barbecue. I thought it was

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Speaker 4: that's Kyle Brandt, by the way, for people don't know,

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Speaker 4: and I thought it was. It was great stuff. But

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Speaker 4: I do think that people need to need to understand

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Speaker 4: that in prioritizing the plate today on a cookout or

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Speaker 4: a barbecue or a get together lake beach whatever, like,

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Speaker 4: you only have so much space, right, only have so

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Speaker 4: much space. So if you're going to you know, break

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Speaker 4: it down, then you need to understand there's a pecking

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Speaker 4: order for what requires and what gets right a first

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Speaker 4: refusal on your plate, okay, which brings us to the

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Speaker 4: best for Last.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I got five things that have to be on your plate,

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Speaker 4: the order of which they are so again profeta if

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Speaker 4: you can. Usually we do number five, number four, number three, No, no,

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Speaker 4: I want you to do it in opposite because number

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Speaker 4: one is most important.

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Speaker 2: Number one, number.

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Speaker 4: Five, There you go. Number one is the protein. Number

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Speaker 4: one is the protein. More specifically, okay, whatever comes off

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Speaker 4: the barbecue or excuse me, the smoker. You know again,

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Speaker 4: I always I think these are the days in which

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Speaker 4: you have. It's not a day when you go, hey man,

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Speaker 4: I'm watching my weight.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I just keto keto. You could be keto.

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Speaker 4: So again in number one, ribs, any sort of pork product.

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Speaker 4: Today is the day if you inbide on swine, and

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Speaker 4: I do. Number one is pork, pork ribs, pulled pork,

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Speaker 4: and I I will allow beef ribs, but any sort

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Speaker 4: of fatty meat gets the gets the right of first

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Speaker 4: refusal and should get the biggest pie, if you will

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Speaker 4: on your plate.

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Speaker 2: Number two, number one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, number number two again.

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Speaker 4: For me, it has to be something that blends with that.

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Speaker 4: That's where the mashed potatoes or potato salad or macaroni

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Speaker 4: and cheese go. Because the truth is that say you

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Speaker 4: have ribs or you have burnt ends, and a little

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Speaker 4: piece of them break off and then they mix with

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Speaker 4: macaroni and cheese. That's delicious as well. Okay, so it

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Speaker 4: acts as more than just a food. It's a barrier

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Speaker 4: but also can combine. That's number two. Number three okay,

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Speaker 4: so now you have your meat, probably have your carb.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: This is where you throw in some sort of vegetable. Okay,

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Speaker 4: some sort of vegetable. It can be a salad. But again,

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Speaker 4: part of the genius to it is you'll probably get

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Speaker 4: a bite with the meat, you'll probably get a bite

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Speaker 4: with the carb as well, and it still all works together.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Number four, Number four, fruit, but the fruit can only

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Speaker 4: really be watermelon. Other fruits just don't work. Fruit salad

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Speaker 4: just doesn't work. And number five, number five, okay, I'm

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Speaker 4: okay with adding dessert on top of whatever else you're eating,

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Speaker 4: because it's still delicious. There's your breakdown in importance of

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Speaker 4: the plate. That's your best for last. Have a happy

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Speaker 4: and safe fourth. We'll talk to you Monday. I'm Doug

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Speaker 4: gottlieba Is the herd