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Speaker 1: Good morning America. Wow. Okay, she did an intro for you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because that's protocol. Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, and this is serious.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is an actress, actor, actress, whatever, no

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Speaker 1: preference here, writer and director who you can see in

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Speaker 1: their new Peacock series The Miniature Wife, but also slip yep,

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Speaker 1: this is Zoe Lister Jones. There we go. Okay, Hello America,

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Speaker 1: Hello America. How are you today.

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Speaker 2: I'm good today. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're here. Yeah, we have to begin

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Speaker 1: the process. Well we've begun with an intro, but now

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Speaker 1: we have the next step of the process is me

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Speaker 1: asking who or what do you want to say?

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Hmmm, Well, I was thinking about this. There's

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Speaker 2: a woman named Alex Madigan. She's a and I was

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Speaker 2: acting and writing and producing, but I was afraid to direct.

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Speaker 2: And she out of nowhere just like invited me to

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Speaker 2: lunch and she said, I think you should direct. And

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Speaker 2: that's why I started directing. And it's like those little

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Speaker 2: moments that really can change the course of a life. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so shout out to Alice, Shout out to Alex Alex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my goodness, that is incredible because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I get in my own way. A good amount

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Speaker 1: of times people I've like pitched before and the people

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Speaker 2: Okay, well then this is this moment for you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and then you can thank me on the podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you should direct.

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Speaker 1: I should just do it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta just go.

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Speaker 1: Do it, because go for it. Yes, all right, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll be reaching out, yes, yes, for guidance and wisdom.

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Speaker 2: I do think women especially feel like they have to

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Speaker 1: You just go for it. I don't know why. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because that's what I'm gonna call you and

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Speaker 2: Like, Okay, so my first movie that I directed, it

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Speaker 1: On tour on tour, and I'm doing all my own

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Speaker 1: Liberating. Let me tell you that is liberation nation. Do

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Speaker 2: Not as much as I You would think that I would.

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Speaker 1: I just reread the Four Agreements over. No, but the

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Speaker 1: And it's like, don't you can get more for trying less?

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Speaker 2: So when you're going one hundred and ten, even one

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Speaker 1: That sensitive dreamers? Okay?

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Speaker 2: everything other planets mean it's very bad.

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Speaker 2: I love to have my taro red, really, And actually

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Speaker 2: do whatever's on the card.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, are you covered in tattoos?

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Speaker 2: I have little ones me too?

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Speaker 1: How many?

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Speaker 2: I think that I've sort of found a balance now

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Speaker 1: Time, there's time, there's but there's time for that. There's time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, LJ okayz the LJ whole new frontier. Will you

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Speaker 2: Love for me is the hundred agreements one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred agreements I made in twenty twenty one that are

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Speaker 2: Silences are difficult for me, So I do feel them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the director comes, the director.

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Speaker 1: I slid a slid led to marriage. Okay, that's a

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Speaker 1: modern love story, it is. Can I ask what your

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Speaker 2: Okay, So my partner directed a movie and I watched

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Speaker 1: Was it a day time follow or an evening followed midday?

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Speaker 2: The time stamps unclear of times?

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Speaker 2: Then I got to follow back and then I and

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Speaker 2: You get none a mic, it's fucked up, and you

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Speaker 2: I was like in these like very like messy things

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Speaker 2: And then I was like traveling and and then we

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Speaker 1: And then it all happened. Did you think he was

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Speaker 2: I did think he was cute, okay. But I also

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Speaker 2: doing out there. There was a lack of intention. Sure,

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Speaker 2: And I was also like talent crushing.

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Speaker 1: Talent crushing. I think talent crush trump's anything physical attraction crush,

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Speaker 1: because I'm like talent crush. It's that's deep, it's deep,

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Speaker 2: Early, and when the opposite, if someone's hot, no talent.

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Speaker 1: That's gotta be a one and done and that's the

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Speaker 1: And that's where that ends. Can I guess your attachment style? Yes,

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Speaker 1: based on I'm gonna guess anxiously direct. Have you read

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Speaker 1: that book it's very self helped red Attacked.

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Speaker 2: I've read Attacked.

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Speaker 1: I walked past a guy at silver Lake Park reading Attached,

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Speaker 1: time I took the test, I would be like it

439
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: says I'm secure, but because I know how to like cheat. Okay, okay, okay.

440
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever taken the test?

441
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: I didn't take the test. I got to through half

442
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: of it and I was like, fuck this. I don't

443
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: want to be this is suppressing. I don't want to

444
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: be in this dance. But I do think, well, wait

445
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: are you so? Do you know what you are?

446
00:22:54,560 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Anctious? I'm gonna have differently when it's anxious.

447
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: French people are hot. Yes, but I will say, and

448
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: probably this is true for you. I do feel like

449
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: I can be very avoidant in me too stands and

450
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: I have been the avoidant in certain relationship.

451
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: It's interesting when does your avoidance crop out, Like what

452
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: is circumstances.

453
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: I'm feeling like too smothered or or like someone likes

454
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: me too much too early?

455
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like.

456
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: Need a good long runway. And I'm actually a little

457
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 2: more avoidant in the beginning stages of a relationship. And

458
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: then once I'm like I can trust you that, I'm

459
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: like I need all of you.

460
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's messed up. Once you're finally feeling safe

461
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: and connected, oh man, and then you're like, okay, cool,

462
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: I can be I can be me and wide open.

463
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: And then it's like, well, now you're doing too much.

464
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: It's a tough dance being in a relationship.

465
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: It's tough.

466
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: It's a that's a challenging dance, depending on types there.

467
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: Depending on types. But learn a lot about yourself the

468
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: mirror of a relationship. I'm always like, I do think

469
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: it's good to dive in because every relationship you learned

470
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: so much. Yeah, even though on the other end it

471
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: can be a disaster.

472
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: Truly, Yeah, it could be brutally Statista, are your parents

473
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: still together? No, you say it like a girl. What

474
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: do you mean whose parents? Is anyone in here? His

475
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: parents still together? Oh? Brag, brag's actually mine? Yeah, he's fine.

476
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: No, my parents split up when I was nine. Okay,

477
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: wait are your parents still to of course not, of

478
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 2: course not.

479
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: Then did you live with one parent? Primarily?

480
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 2: I did a crazy thing talk about like I was

481
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: like a very parentified child, and I chose to switch

482
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: off every other night with my parents when they split

483
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: up because I wanted to make sure that my dad

484
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: was okay, oh my god. And it was so untenable

485
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: and I did it for so long and I just

486
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: like traumatized myself, like nobody was asking me to do that,

487
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, I got this.

488
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: You guys, Yeah, I know what to do.

489
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: I know exactly you. You need me and you need me.

490
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you an only child? Oh okay, well then

491
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: that makes more sense, dude, yes, in that Okay, So

492
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: how long did you do it? Do you remember?

493
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: I did it from like nine to like thirteen, like

494
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: also important.

495
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Years, really formative year formative.

496
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, ooh, so that was chicky.

497
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure kudos, brut we're calling it. How many How

498
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: did you decide at the end of that four years,

499
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: like I don't want to do this anymore, and and

500
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: where did you decide to kind of plant?

501
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: I planned it with my mom. Okay, both my parents

502
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: are artists, and I grew up in Brooklyn, and so

503
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: it was like my dad like moved into like some ramshackle,

504
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: like it was not a place for living. He was like,

505
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: this is my studio. And then there was like a

506
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 2: food time thought. So I think after a while, like

507
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: my mom was like, you know, you don't like have

508
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: to And and also I will say my dad started

509
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: dating his now wife, who's like a wonderful, lovely, caring person,

510
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: and I think in my twisted, little like kid mind,

511
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, he has like someone to care

512
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: for him. Now, oh wow, it's really like if you

513
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: think too hard about it, you will cry. So please

514
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: not you, but myself. I'm like, I it's so sad

515
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: because I'm like, no, that was a grown man, like

516
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: you didn't need to take that off.

517
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know why you might have taken it on?

518
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: What made you do that?

519
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something?

520
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: You can?

521
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: I pity men. I do and I have from a

522
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: young age, and one cannot explain it except for like

523
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: I remember even as a child, I would see a

524
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: man eating alone in a restaurant. I would be like

525
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: moved to tears because I'd be like, someone, go help

526
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: that man, Like I think I've always felt that that

527
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: they need help. Yeah, and so, and my mom is

528
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: like such a like og like second wave feminist too.

529
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because she was like, let them do

530
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: it on the boat. Yeah. I was like no, no, no, no, no,

531
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: I will tie their shoes. I will serve them. So

532
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but yeah, I think

533
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: I just had some weird instinct of like if.

534
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: You're from me, from you, from from you, my goodness.

535
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And my my mom was like very strong and

536
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: like strong willed. And my dad was orphaned at a

537
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: very young age and then went to viet Like he

538
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: didn't go to Vietnam, but he was in the rotc

539
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: and his job was like to knock on people's doors

540
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: and tell them that their loved ones were dead. Oh

541
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: and then when he got called Vietnam, he deserted and

542
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: went to Canada and that's where he met my mom.

543
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: But I think, like I knew his story and I

544
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: was like, he doesn't have family, you know, like I

545
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: think I felt the loneliness of that, like I was, Yeah,

546
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: I guess I was like a little baby EmPATH and

547
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm his family, so let me

548
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 2: go do that. But again, yeah, giving one hundred and

549
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: ten percent, baby girl could have been given thirty thirty.

550
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: Five, nine years old. She deserves, she deserves. But that

551
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: is very sweet. Yeah, and I'm sure he appreciated. Yeah,

552
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: appreciated it, That is my goodness. That's tough, and I

553
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: think of that with only children sometimes this the pressure,

554
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: especially as their parents' age, actually to show up for

555
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: them and there's no one to share in that responsibility necessarily.

556
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm one of four friends. There's many of us being

557
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: it up that we tap out and take weeks. But

558
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: did you enjoy being an only child when you were younger?

559
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, like I do have two

560
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: half sisters because I lived in Canada, so they came

561
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: a little bit. And I remember when my one of

562
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: them came to visit. I was like so excited, like

563
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: I wanted a sister, and she was like I hate

564
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: you get no, but you know it was like adolescent.

565
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: She was older than me, and yeah, and I was like,

566
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: can I bring you to show and talent. She was like, bitch, no,

567
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: bring me to show. Yeah, my dolly. So I don't

568
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: I actually think I wanted siblings, And I think being

569
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: an only child you do grow up faster. And the

570
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: way that my parents rolled, like I was just always

571
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: at adult events and at the adult tables. So and

572
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: also Brooklyn, like at that time it was it was

573
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: like pretty rough and tumble, So I didn't really get

574
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: like when I look at my partner has two sisters

575
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: and and I look at their bond, and I'm like,

576
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm jealous of it.

577
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is nice having siblings, and it's but

578
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: also there are the cons of having siblings very stages

579
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: of life. Yes, yes, when you're an only child, I

580
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: imagine it's like they are just focused on me, not

581
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: that as a young person I need. I needed to

582
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: know that my mom, who raised me, it was only

583
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: focused on me. But I'm like, there's so much for

584
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: you to do here between taking care of yourself and

585
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: taking care of the four of us, and so our

586
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: time is limited in its own way, and especially because

587
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: she was a single mom. So you know what's nice

588
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: is that your partner now has two sisters that you

589
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: can kind of yeah.

590
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Texted me like, my partner went away for work and

591
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: one of his sisters texted me like come over like

592
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: and I was like really and she was like, yeah,

593
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: you're my s I l and I like had to

594
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: google it. I was like, oh my god, sister in law.

595
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Sister, you didn't know what it was.

596
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm not like that. I don't come from that.

597
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know these like like acronyms, You're like, get

598
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: them out of here. No, okay, I'm learning. I do

599
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: know the acronyms now.

600
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: But I do remember back in the day when I

601
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: I was like I was sleeping with somebody. I was

602
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: so into him. This is like in my early twenties,

603
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: and he was like being really flirty. One night we

604
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: were no it was like so off and on and

605
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: I was like so thirsty. And when he was leap,

606
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: when I was leaving, I was like okay bye, like

607
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: in front of the group people, and he was like okay,

608
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: k I t And you know, my ass turned around

609
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: and said what.

610
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Sorry, what's that?

611
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: I say, what's that?

612
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Definition?

613
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: Please?

614
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: And but also keep in touch also funk off. Yeah,

615
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: we just hooked up, and you talking about keeping touch okay, hi,

616
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: and he said, the onus is on you to contact

617
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: me because I have no intention of contacting you. And

618
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be a casual year book. K I T.

619
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: That's right, that's crazy.

620
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: It was actually crazy.

621
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: My last lovely you like this? Yes, I just had

622
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: sex with me?

623
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: K I T S I.

624
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: L S I L my last Okay. Well, you know what,

625
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: we all did wild things in our twenties. I mean

626
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: I didn't, but other people didn't know. I was. I was.

627
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: I was. I was just so I was like a

628
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: workhorse who was like I have to achieve my goals.

629
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: And so I lived in La all of my twenties

630
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: and I just was like I have to work. And

631
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: even people are like, you want to go out, and

632
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, going out. It's for people who have

633
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: achieved success.

634
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: But I can well.

635
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Also, I think LA is an easy place to be busy. Yes,

636
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: but you're not actually doing anything. Yeah, brunch and hikes

637
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: and meet up with this rent And I love it. Yes,

638
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I go. When I go to La, I go to

639
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: a particular street I shan'n't name right now, just because

640
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, we don't have to say the street. But

641
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: I go to a particular street maybe four times a day,

642
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: just to be like, God, I'm ucha in the morning,

643
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm back on said street, mosy around being like do

644
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: I want a baked good? Oh, there's a pet store?

645
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Can you walk to said street from your home?

646
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I could, but I'd be embarrassed. Okay, it's too far,

647
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: it's but it's not. It's it's not New York too far.

648
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: It's La too far.

649
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what is like block?

650
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I used to drive one block in La to

651
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store. And one could say, oh, yeah,

652
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: because you're picking up a lot of things. Of course

653
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: you need the car. No, it would be like two things,

654
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: because you just don't walk there. No, I don't. Yeah.

655
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: The first time I went to La, I like was

656
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: in this movie as like a local hire and I

657
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: was absolutely not a local higher. So I slept on

658
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: my friend's couch and I didn't have a car, and

659
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: so I like went to Whole Foods one day, and

660
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: I remember like, just like a New Yorker like walking

661
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: with my groceries down the street for maybe twenty minutes.

662
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: People were like actively concerned.

663
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Yes, they were like, that's what it is you want

664
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: to Yes, You're like, is she okay? That something must

665
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: be wrong with this person has unwell? This is an

666
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: unwell person. Does she have ma'am? Do you have someone

667
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: could call for you? Totally? I'm fine, totally. Yeah. It

668
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: feels very strange walking there. I know I have a pet.

669
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Sorry I do. Okay, waitit you were gonna tell.

670
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: Me, no, I was gonna say, when I come to

671
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: New York. Yeah, I'm looking like seventeen to twenty thousand

672
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: steps a day because I have to. I have to

673
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: get it in and I go back.

674
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: You're not step in.

675
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: No, I'm not stepping pedal to.

676
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: The metal and we're driving. That's lad. Well you have

677
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: a pet. You have a pet.

678
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: I have a dog, a dog, yeah.

679
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: So walking the dog must be nice then in LA

680
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: yeah nice protection It's like I'm walking the dog, you see.

681
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not in a car.

682
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And where I live though, I'm like walkable

683
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: to a hike, but there's no sidewalk, and so when

684
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: I have tried to do that because it would be

685
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 2: so nice to walk to a hike, that's like really

686
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: next level yeah yeah, yeah, but you have to sort

687
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: of like Frogger like on an active like thoroughfare. Yeah, yeah,

688
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: and it is very dangerous my dog. So I do

689
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 2: I take him? I like take him in the car

690
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: for like one block, oh hike.

691
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: And then does he ride in a carrier or just

692
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of a big boy. He's big.

693
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: He's like seventy five pounds.

694
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh my big. And my reaction to like, you birthed

695
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: him and he's seventy five and natural person, you've been

696
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: ripped to rip smitherines.

697
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, k I T O K T.

698
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay. Have you always been a pet person?

699
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: I had cats growing up, okay. And then when I

700
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: was in my twenties again around this chaotic time, I

701
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: decided to like share a puppy with my mom, which

702
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: that doesn't that's not a thing. But she was like, okay,

703
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: because she.

704
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: I want you to take care of it when I

705
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: don't want to take care of it, which will be

706
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: most of the time, I.

707
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: Just want to sort of carry because this was a

708
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: little like a little baby phy. And and so then

709
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: I just gave her that dog, yes, okay, obviously, and

710
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: that book.

711
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: I feel like you're doing her a favorite, yes, Like

712
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: I think the dog's better with me. Yeah, I think.

713
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: She's just so attached to you. My mom does, though,

714
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: create anxiously attached dogs, which I was like, okay, we

715
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: sent a pattern children the animals patient zero, I was

716
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 2: zero and since they're like leave you can't leave here

717
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: my everything. But now so this dog, my current dog, Scoops,

718
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: was my partners and so like, I didn't identify as

719
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: a dog person. I had a dog with my ex,

720
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: but he took her in the divorce because it was

721
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: just like easier that way. I think shared custody is

722
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: just gets well you lived, shared custody exactly I already

723
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: lived doesn't work. And so then I still like didn't

724
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: really identify because at that time, even with my ex,

725
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: like he was like I want a dog, and I

726
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: was like, that will be mostly your dog, not to

727
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: be like a cold hearted basual like I was busy,

728
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: I was working. I was just like, I know the

729
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: actual responsibilities of this thing, and I don't want to

730
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: shirk them. And he did a great job raising that child.

731
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: And then and then I had like inherited Scoops and

732
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: now I'm like I am a full on dog mom

733
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: like dog person, and it changes the way I relate

734
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: to other dogs on the street. Really, Oh my god,

735
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying hello. I'm like, I am really, I'm active.

736
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: You have to say hi to dogs?

737
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I love them all my children?

738
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow. I have a friend who also loves dogs

739
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: and is like, I do need to speak to each

740
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: one that I see too.

741
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: I do must have to do that.

742
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: My dog has forced me to be far more social

743
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: than I want to. Sometimes I want to go on

744
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: a walk and disappear, yes, and just be invisible and

745
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: just like, let my mind just sore, yeah and flow atrophy.

746
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: You know that's the truth. Source sounded nicer Buthy. Yeah,

747
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: I want my brain to break. And my dog, though,

748
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: he has to say hi. He has to say hi

749
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: to everyone, not just other dogs. He's like, you know,

750
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm handsome, and you know you want to talk to me?

751
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: And if someone does it, he's like, and what's wrong

752
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: with you? Yes? Have you seen me? Yeah? Yes, I

753
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: love that. It's crazy and I I am shocked that

754
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: he is so social because I'm like, and how do

755
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I train you to be a little bit more like me? Like, yes,

756
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: be selective. Let's let's sometimes zone out. We don't have

757
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: to say hi to every single human.

758
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: That's really hard. When you and your dog have different

759
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: social batteries.

760
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and he's got it for if I'm yeah,

761
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: that's he's a busy body's but I do love him.

762
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: That's my guy. It's my guy. But he's a busy

763
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: body's busy.

764
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dog is has leach aggression. Okay, I have

765
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: to call him out on that children, but he so

766
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: he doesn't when i'm it's kind of helpful because I'm like, no, no,

767
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: he's not friendly, So people don't.

768
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: They don't come by any seventy five pounds. No.

769
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was a tiny because there's a lot

770
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: of dogs like on my like neighborhood loop that are

771
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: yapping and aggressive, but they're little and you're kind of

772
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: like yeah, and people he does it and people are like, good,

773
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: this is.

774
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: Gonna kill me. Yeah, okay, well that's shout out to scoops.

775
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to scoops.

776
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: He won't hear. But maybe somehow, maybe they can. He might.

777
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 1: Maybe he could, he could if.

778
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: They watched those like dog TV shows.

779
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Do you put on the TV for the dog when

780
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: you leave?

781
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 2: I never have.

782
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: I've tried it. My dog don't give a fuck. He's like,

783
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: I fully got a subscription to a streamer because I

784
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta play bluey I heard dogs like Blue.

785
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: And he's like, bitch, what is this? I want to

786
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: go where you're going?

787
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

788
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: Club? Yeah, take me today? Care, I need to go

789
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: where you're going? This is this? And I'm like, sir,

790
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: I paid.

791
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: For yes, a full subscription, pay.

792
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: For a full subscription so you can watch blue. Heard

793
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: y'all liked it. He didn't give a damn. He's really

794
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: a nipicky went have you do you have children? Have

795
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: you ever wanted children? Yes?

796
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, I think I do?

797
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Okay do yeah? Why do you say? It was such

798
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: like my voice went tentative, no, no, no, I got

799
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: a little bit tentative, like yeah.

800
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 2: You know, because like I think at a certain age,

801
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: it's weird to be like I want children, and that's

802
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: not that's my own thing, that's my own hang up.

803
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: But like I'm no longer a spring chicken, so I

804
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: guess I'm sort of like hedging against my perceived judgment

805
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: of other people. But no, I like I do, and

806
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: and it took me a long time to get there.

807
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: I think that's also part of like the hesitation in

808
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: my voice is I have never identified as a person

809
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: who's been like one hundred percent. I've always known I've

810
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: wanted kids. I was just always so career focused and

811
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: like was like, I have all these things on my

812
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: checklist that I have to do and then we'll see

813
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: if they fit into that. And then I think, well,

814
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: this show slip that I wrote it, I directed it,

815
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: I started in every episode, and so that was like

816
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: talk about a seventy five baby. Yeah, And I think

817
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: when I did that, I was like, I want a kid.

818
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: It kind of like took me doing like the thing

819
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: at the top of the bucket list, which was like

820
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: I really wanted to create my own series and so

821
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: but that wasn't that long ago, so I'm still kind

822
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: of like, oh, newly.

823
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: Like, okay, I can do the yang. I okay. I'm

824
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: curious about did you know, did you always know you

825
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: wanted to be married? No? Okay no.

826
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: And I think my parents' relationship made me very cynical

827
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: about the institution and my first husband, like I was

828
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: really like, I don't believe in marriage, and then after

829
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: like eight years pasted, I was like, where's the fucking ring?

830
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Talking about the documents.

831
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 2: Too, I'm like I said the institution, you know, yeah,

832
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: do you do you believe?

833
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: Do I believe in the institution? Sure? Yeah. But I've

834
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: never been a person who, like somebody was like, what

835
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of ring would you want? And I'm like, and

836
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: they were like this cut, this cut. I go, I

837
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the cuts of a diamond. I've

838
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: never imagined my wedding, particularly except in the year twenty

839
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: twenty of Our Lord and say Yes. I discovered during

840
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: COVID this florist and I've never been super into flowers,

841
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: but I discovered this florists Like I'm a talent scout,

842
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: but this Laur's who's floral designs were so stunning but

843
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: like not over the top, but just really beautiful. And

844
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: it made me those florals, so I used to order

845
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: them for people. Because it's LA based florist. I'm gonna

846
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I will give you the name. It's offerings offerings, yes,

847
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: not a sponsor dot Coy stunning and I always get

848
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: the bountiful Oh okay. I I was like, these floors

849
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: are so insane. I send them to people in La

850
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: whenever I can because they also have like specific delivery

851
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: days and will always have the same response of just

852
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: like these flowers are insane. So those flowers made me

853
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, I could have a way.

854
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: I genuinely was like, I can see them. They're the centerpiece,

855
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: and I can see the table. Yes, I couldn't see

856
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: the man, but I'm like, I can see the table

857
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: with the flowers on it, and.

858
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: Then I love to se.

859
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: The man. I said, I see the dark oak and

860
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: the flower. I could see it. I could see the room.

861
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: I can see the space. I couldn't see the man

862
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: at the time, but I'm in a relationship. You are, yes,

863
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: which only going You didn't ask, but I just want

864
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: to no, no, no, it's okay. There's nothing else to say.

865
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: It was something else to say, Okay, okay, what is

866
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: going on?

867
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: It's great, it's genuinely he's perfect and he's great. Yes,

868
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: and it's wonderful. But I had never thought about it

869
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: except for those flowers being so stunning. I was like, oh,

870
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: I can see where that fits in. But did you

871
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: rings diamond cuts? You don't, Yeah, but you knew you

872
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: wanted a diamond you know what.

873
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: I think that I just knew I wanted to, Okay,

874
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: a knee on a knee, and I like love romance,

875
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: So I think that part of a wedding that is that.

876
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it is such a fantasy, a romance fantasy.

877
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I always did love, but I was a little bit

878
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: like this ship doesn't work the first one.

879
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: That eight years before you got engaged, you were together

880
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: with your first partner. I think, I'm when a couple

881
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: is together that long and they're not getting engaged or

882
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: married or taking whatever next step seemingly is there, and

883
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: either party is interested in next step, what do you

884
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: think it means? Now given your experience?

885
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the show Queer Ultimatum. Did you see this?

886
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: I haven't it?

887
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well it's the same as the ultimatum, but

888
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: it was just with like chaotic, but it was like

889
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: that was the central conflict, right, Like that's the show

890
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: is like what do you do? All these crazy people

891
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: then went off and tried somebody else.

892
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: That's not a good idea.

893
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do really. I mean, I

894
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: think you have to have like an honest conversation to

895
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: see if your values are misaligned. And I think like

896
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: those conversations are some of them obviously most painful in

897
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: a relationship because values are not always aligned, and even

898
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: like my friends who are really cut and dry, like

899
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: on like first date is like, here's what I want.

900
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: I want children, I want marriage, I want and like

901
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: are we aligned? People change like you want people to

902
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: change as you grow together, so like two years in

903
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: that person might be like, actually you.

904
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: Thought about it. I know myself, but.

905
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Maybe this is different and those are tough moments in

906
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: a relationship. But I think it's just honest communications.

907
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean I always I wonder when I'm

908
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: like it's that long, I'm like, does it mean trouble

909
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: in paradise? And we're probably supposed to break up? And

910
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: no one wants to do it and rip the band

911
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: aid off because that's obviously painful.

912
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: I know. But then you look at I always love

913
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: couples who like are like no, like, I actually accept

914
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: you as a person who doesn't believe in marriage, and

915
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: that might be something I believe in. But I love this. Yeah,

916
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: so let's figure out what this looks like. But I

917
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: will say my parents like my mother's advice I think

918
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: specifically was always like wait as long as humanly possible

919
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: to get married in a relationship. So once we hit eight,

920
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: I was like mommy, mommy, can I do it now? Now?

921
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: Did you ever have good relationship advice from your dad?

922
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: Yes, my dad actually gives amazing relationship.

923
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: With yes, please dish well.

924
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: Early on around the era of k I T he

925
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: was like, there's a difference between being in love and

926
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: loving somebody. And that really stuck with me in the

927
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: moment because I was falling in love left, right and center.

928
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: You know, like I can fall in love very easily,

929
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: whatever that means, but it's sort of a drug induced state,

930
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, that is temporary. And so he was kind

931
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: of like, that's oftentimes the people that you have like

932
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: the crazy fireworks with are not the people that are

933
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: going to be the sustainable relationship. And I was like,

934
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: I do not want to hear that at this particular

935
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: moment for you, But it stayed with me, and it

936
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: is such good advice.

937
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then what is then being in love? If

938
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: it's that chaotic sort of fireworks intensity really loving a person,

939
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: how would you or he described that or what I mean?

940
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 2: You know, let's generally for business. I was, wait, being

941
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: in love, you' blestered me. It's aspect trump, Wait.

942
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: You or your dad?

943
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: I understand now, Well, my dad could be sheare they

944
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: too at any moment he's he's in his eighties.

945
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: You don't know, you never know, you don't know. It's

946
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: not too late.

947
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, ask me the question again.

948
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: Okay, really loving a person, how would you or he

949
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: your dad, my father specifically daddy, Yes, describe that.

950
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: Really loving a person? Okay. I think it means unconditionally

951
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: loving someone, including and because of all of their imperfections

952
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: whatever you deem imperfect about that, Yeah, but that took

953
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: me a long time to understand. Like, actual acceptance of

954
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: a person looks like not the idea which I think

955
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people go into relationships like, oh, I

956
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: can change this person as a disaster, you know what

957
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's not that it's not that you

958
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: can't desire someone someone's growth, but that's not your business.

959
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: They're going to do it in their time.

960
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't change them or save them. It turns

961
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: out no, it turns keeps.

962
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: The life wrap for yourself.

963
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: Yes, and you have to put your mask on before

964
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: and honestly don't even.

965
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: Know they can figure it out.

966
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: I have to figure it out there in an emergency.

967
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: You think I've turned put mine and then.

968
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, no, I'm already out of the plane.

969
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm not the way are you coming?

970
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no.

971
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: No, I should have paid attention to that's right. People

972
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to flight ATTECK. I never do until

973
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: you want something to drink.

974
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: That's right, and then you're like, excuse me, I know,

975
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: excuse me, I said no ice. The flight attendants like

976
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: doing the the demo demonstration.

977
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: I feel so bad.

978
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 2: It's like being like the opener at like a Justin

979
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: Bieber concert. Everyone's like, anyway, when's for takeoff?

980
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: And then they're clapping for the pilot whole time has

981
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: done a performance. Okay. A pilot gets out and says, hey,

982
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I just want to say I was.

983
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been seated.

984
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: I've been seated. We're going to get you safely to

985
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: your destination. I do clap? You do clap? Do you clap?

986
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: On the plane lands?

987
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: Sometimes if I'm feeling frisky, have.

988
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: You ever been the only ones? Ye feel after.

989
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: And red like and I usually do an audience if

990
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: I'm traveling with someone, I will see if I can

991
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: start the clap.

992
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: And how I'm gonna what percentage is it successful? Start

993
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: to not successful?

994
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: Or on successful, I'm gonna say it's fifty fifty, fifty

995
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: to fifty, but the fifty when it works, it's in vigorous.

996
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: It's magical to start a class. I just try to

997
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: start a class. Yes, I'm gonna try to start a

998
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: clap on my next flight.

999
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: Because also it opens people up to be like, yeah,

1000
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: that was a fucking miracle because.

1001
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: It didn't have to happen this way. We didn't, isn't it?

1002
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: What could have gone a different way? And we keep

1003
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: taking you know, the other day on a flight, I

1004
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: was like, I should say a prayer because I remember

1005
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: when flying was a bit of a novelty and I

1006
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: would say a little prayer every time before we took off.

1007
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: And I said, now I'm just like the Wi Fi.

1008
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: I know, I know, ma'am the Wi Fi. Yes, I know, ma'am.

1009
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: And when does the food start? It's just up here

1010
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: eating and on the internet. It's crazy, it's crazy. I

1011
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: said a little prayer again because I said, wait a minute,

1012
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: this is actually terrifying.

1013
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1014
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: Do you have to take anything for flights?

1015
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: No?

1016
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't.

1017
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 2: But I was on a flight as a like child

1018
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: where beaches had come out okay, So I'm gonna aige

1019
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: myself the Bette Midler movie, Moving, Moving, okay, And the

1020
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: whole plane was watching beaches and everyone was like crying.

1021
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: It was almost like simultaneous, like everyone. I just remembered

1022
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: that everyone the plane was r and then the the

1023
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: pilot comes on and he's like, uh, we've got a

1024
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: bit of a situation. And long story short like two

1025
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: of the however, many engines had died, and so we

1026
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 2: started going and everyone's already crying. From Bette Midler, Yeah,

1027
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: it was a disaster. And so I think because I

1028
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: experienced that, I'm always like, this is a miracle, everybody.

1029
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: We need to collapse. We made it, no idea. Yeah,

1030
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. I want to be on a flight

1031
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: with you. We should go somewhere I've envied myself. What's

1032
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: your vibe? What's your vacation vibe?

1033
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: Really? Anywhere anytime?

1034
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: Really, I love your vacation city, beach, it doesn't matter.

1035
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: I mean I like a little mix, Like I'll love

1036
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: like a place that has a beach that also has

1037
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: some culture that I can I.

1038
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: Know where you'd like where Barcelona I.

1039
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: Will go to? You know where else I want to go?

1040
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: Not for like the like partisanship, but like around like Maorca, Mahorka.

1041
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: I've been to Maoca. You have got back from Majorca

1042
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: and did in fact ship my brains out? Okay, why

1043
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: maybe the bad I didn't even have paya. I've been

1044
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: to Spain twice this past in less than twelve months,

1045
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: and I have not had paya. I don't know something.

1046
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: My stomach is very sensitive. It's really devastating how sensitive

1047
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: it is.

1048
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: And traveling is tough.

1049
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: And oftentimes, yeah, traveling is very tough. Can you feel God? Please?

1050
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: My Yorka was difficult. I died. Yeah it does, but

1051
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: it actually does.

1052
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it's actually it's that's actually brutalista it is, but

1053
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: my basically and then like even anyway, I landed and

1054
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I was fine, and then it was like my stomach hurts,

1055
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and then and then one thing led to another and

1056
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I was in hell for twenty four hours. Ask me

1057
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: anything to come on the toilet, fighting for my life.

1058
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: I do not have an electrolyte left, Okay, And guess

1059
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: what happened after I went to Barcelona. Yeah, oh tough.

1060
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: So it's not Spain. So I'm not blaming Spain because

1061
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: I love Spain. I'll be back. I'm a fighter was

1062
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: the I'm going back. I don't care. I'm a fighter.

1063
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: I know that about you.

1064
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, some places have scared me enough that

1065
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't come back. Yeah, but I'm gonna fight for Spain.

1066
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: Mexico City. Love that place, the coolest place. But did

1067
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: get talk about shit and brains and my partner at

1068
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: the time. I mean, I think he had to like

1069
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: register with the CDC when we got back because he

1070
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: was bringing some crazy shit in. And we had like

1071
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: a reservation at a Michelin restaurant and it took everything

1072
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: for me to get this fucking reservation. Yeah, and I

1073
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: made him come, this is what it's like to date me.

1074
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: And we sat there and he was like, we'll just

1075
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 2: get up and go to the bathroom between every course.

1076
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Poor man, poor man.

1077
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: But you know what you do what you gotta do.

1078
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: And he liked the food, didn't stay in lost, didn't

1079
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: stay in and out tasty. You think that's how they

1080
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: came up with the name in and Out. I love

1081
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: in and out. There's no shade. I love it. I

1082
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: am a friend who was new to our friend group

1083
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: joined us for New year's I think twenty twenty. Cirsty

1084
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Speaker 1: Hear very important. She was new to the friend group

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Speaker 1: like we. Actually I don't know that we had ever

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Speaker 1: met her, but one friend brought her and she was

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Speaker 1: so ill, just shitting her brains out, vomiting her heart out,

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Speaker 1: and it was in and out it was. But mind you,

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Speaker 1: I just had in and out two weeks ago. No

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Speaker 1: problems here. Everything was okay, shut it stayed in? Do

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Speaker 1: it stayed in? Bad? Fully? Well? That's bad too. We

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Speaker 1: need one about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahs Do you do

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Speaker 1: you like the fries edit and out?

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? I really have only discovered

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Speaker 2: it in and out in my current relationship because he's

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Speaker 2: an Angelino and so in and out is like a

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Speaker 2: part of the culture, and so like, we will go

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Speaker 2: and I will eat those fries, but I wouldn't identify

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Speaker 2: as like I love those fries because also I was

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Speaker 2: raised in a very like health food ass house, and

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Speaker 2: so I was not allowed any fast food, like nothing,

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Speaker 2: no sugar. For my fifth birthday, I asked for sugar

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Speaker 2: Cereal like I asked for Lucky Charms, and I ate

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Speaker 2: one bowl and then the next day my mom threw

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Speaker 2: out the box. I didn't get to keep the whole box.

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Speaker 1: You didn't get to keep the box. So do you?

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Speaker 1: You don't have a sweet tooth? And naie I out

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Speaker 1: of sugar.

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Speaker 2: It was Yeah, it was like forbidden.

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Speaker 1: Discipline around it.

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Speaker 2: I do have I do have discipline. But I love sweets. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love sweets.

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Speaker 1: Well, Zoe, it's time for a segment called that's nice,

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Speaker 1: But what about me? You are from Brooklyn, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles. Now I'm trying to decide where

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Speaker 1: to live. And I know you can change your mind,

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Speaker 1: but where to like plant roots? Okay, where to? I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say something about soil sewing.

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Speaker 2: So your seats?

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Speaker 1: Why do men get to say that?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah you know you got seats, Yeah, eggs and seats.

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Speaker 1: Where do I? Where should I? How do I? How

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Speaker 1: did you decide? Obviously your partner lives in LA and

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Speaker 1: as an Angelina, was that the deciding.

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Speaker 2: No, that wasn't a deciding factor. I stayed in New York.

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Speaker 2: I had a teacher in acting school at NYU who

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Speaker 2: was like, don't move to LA until you get a job.

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Speaker 2: So I stayed in New York until I got a

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Speaker 2: job in LA, and so then I moved there and

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Speaker 2: I've been there for like thirteen years now. Oh and

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Speaker 2: I love it. And I am a person that's going

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Speaker 2: to tell you to live in LA, even though of

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Speaker 2: course like New York born and bred, but I do

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Speaker 2: think like at a certain age for me, the lifestyle

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Speaker 2: in LA is just it's cush, It's it feels good.

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Speaker 2: You get to go back to that same block just

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Speaker 2: multiple times. I mean, we don't know if she's getting

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Speaker 2: up pet food or a macha or I to you,

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Speaker 2: time will tell, but the day is your oyster and

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Speaker 2: that's what LA.

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Speaker 1: Also.

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Speaker 2: I hate to be this person, but the weather. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna get hate from like my Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I can try to save you. Are you

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Speaker 1: Yankees or Dodgers?

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Speaker 2: You know, I do not invest in the sports at all.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't even tell you, but I'll go to either game

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Speaker 2: because I like merch. Okay, so and I support both.

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Speaker 1: You'll be wearing a Yankees cap and a Dodger's jersey.

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Speaker 2: I have a I bought a like jacket at a

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Speaker 2: Vinage store that's like an MLB jacket and has a

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Speaker 2: patch of from every single baseball team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just hear that because I like I'm Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: That's a very okay yeah, not unproblematic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah yeah famous.

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Speaker 1: Everyone. Everyone loves you, Zoe. It was so wonderful to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was my conversation with Zoe Lister Jones. What a

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Speaker 1: delight Zoe is I mean chaotic twins we are, I'll

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Speaker 1: say I would love to give you advice, as would

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Speaker 1: my next guest. Who knows who they'll be, but I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling they would love to give you advice.

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Speaker 1: If you want advice, call five zero two eight four

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Speaker 1: nine three two three seven. It's five zero two eight

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Speaker 1: four nine three two three seven. My guest and I

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Speaker 1: will try to shepherd you in the right direction. We're

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Speaker 1: not experts, but we love to be nosy. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time.