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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. We are so excited

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Speaker 1: to be with you a week before the Combine. In fact,

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Speaker 1: less than a week because our first show originating from

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Speaker 1: Combine Radio Row will be Tuesday Night with guests to

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Speaker 1: be named later, so we're looking forward to that. But

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Speaker 1: I always look forward to Thursdays. It's Mark Vandermin and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you, by the way, because we have

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Speaker 1: the General John McClain joining us, and he steps in

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: General, good evening, how's it going.

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Speaker 3: It's going great. I will be listening and watching all

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Speaker 3: your interviews. I'll be watching on the NFL network as well.

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Speaker 3: I used to. I went to geez forty combines and

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Speaker 3: always liked it. But one of the things I like

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Speaker 3: now is not having to travel, and I will miss that.

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Speaker 3: I don't miss the Super Bowl, the Draft, any of that,

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Speaker 3: but I do miss the Combine. In the league meeting

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Speaker 3: and my wife Carol said, we'll just go, and I

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Speaker 3: thought about it because I'm working on a couple of

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Speaker 3: documentaries and I was doing eleven weekly talk shows, podcast

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Speaker 3: asked TV segments, so stay busy.

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Speaker 2: Well, tell us about the documentary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in general, Well, one of them a filmmaker Mark Burns,

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Speaker 3: who has done a bunch of documentaries. I got involved

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Speaker 3: with him. The working title was Phillips Three Generations of

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Speaker 3: Coaching Excellence about bomb Day and Wade and West, the

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Speaker 3: Vikings offensive coordinator. And the other one is fascinating. It's

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Speaker 3: the preieview Inenter Scholastic League high school football in Texas

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Speaker 3: before integration. And there are eight members of the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame who played in the PVIL. Three are still alive,

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Speaker 3: Me and Joe Green, Kenny Houston, and Emmitt Thomas, the

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Speaker 3: We've talked to people like Jerry Levias, Elmo Wright, We've

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Speaker 3: talked to historians. Michael Hurd used to work for the

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Speaker 3: Houston Post, wrote a book called Thursday Night Lights, but

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Speaker 3: we couldn't find anybody done documentary. He's the thing that

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Speaker 3: we've heard about football before integration. The stories are just unbelievable,

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Speaker 3: fascinating but unbelievable. A lot of them make me mad

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Speaker 3: but I can't find one who is bitter about what

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Speaker 3: they experienced. And we've got more we want to interview

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Speaker 3: in February of twenty and twenty six, and I do

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Speaker 3: all the interviews. And we had a little run that

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Speaker 3: we did recently. We wanted to get some great players

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Speaker 3: who would tell us they stood on the shoulders of

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Speaker 3: the pv IL players, and we got Eric Dickerson andre

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Speaker 3: who played at Kashmir seven years after the UIL absorbed

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Speaker 3: on to the Aggie's and the Seahawks. And we are

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Speaker 3: hoping to interview Jalen Hurts, his dad, longtime coach at Channelview,

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Speaker 3: and some other coaches who either coached in the pv

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Speaker 3: stood on the shoulders of those coaches. So it's been

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Speaker 3: tremendous and I love doing it, and it's just kind

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Speaker 3: of been a labor of love and continues to be.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go We're going to go to Lubbock.

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Speaker 3: A ninety three year old coach who won a state

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Speaker 3: and we decay well if he can play tennis three

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really cool. General.

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Speaker 4: And you say a year from now both of them

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Speaker 3: Well, the one on the Phillips family should be out

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Speaker 3: before that, okay, but the one on the pv IO

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Speaker 3: we're shooting for February next year. And the greatest quarterback

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Speaker 3: And the Raiders already had Gosh, Darryl la Monica, George Blanda,

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Speaker 3: So Warren was in town and we interviewed him too

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Speaker 3: So thank you guys for asking when they come out,

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Speaker 3: I would love for you to help me promote them.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, General, that sounds like I love it. Here's

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Speaker 5: my other idea, and I'm waiting for somebody to do this.

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Speaker 5: So maybe I'll throw out you there to you General,

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Speaker 5: because you know it, well, throw it out there. I

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Speaker 3: Well that's one that we actually when Mark Burns and

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Speaker 3: Rob Lanch he's one of the producers. I brought up

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Speaker 5: Well, when you said Andrea's name, that's what triggered for me,

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Speaker 5: because Andrea is one of the greatest players.

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Speaker 2: I ever played in the Southwest Conference.

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Speaker 5: Every won eighty nine but just the number of players

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Speaker 5: I would I would be front center for that. But

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Speaker 5: and I always love being there for different reasons. General,

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Speaker 3: There were five or six writers who came to Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what John Harris does. He stays out all

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Speaker 5: Now there's a lot of well not quote bars unquote

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Speaker 2: The hotel bars get a lot of action.

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Speaker 2: But who's the agent that has the big table there.

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Speaker 1: Bob Lamont, Bob Lamont and very come and go, and

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Speaker 1: it's wild because it's just it's crazy. It's a come,

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Speaker 2: He must be.

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Speaker 3: Bob represents more NFL coaches than even Jimmy Sext unlike sex,

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Speaker 1: All right, general, the combine is one thing. Everybody must

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Speaker 1: the CAP's going up. So what do you think of

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Speaker 1: the Texans situation here? As they don't have much space,

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Speaker 1: But everybody's gonna get a little more space here with

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Speaker 1: the cap going up, of course, And he goes up

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Speaker 3: Know, Nick Casario had a plan. He knew it was

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Speaker 5: If the Texas are gonna spend money, and we know

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Speaker 3: You're not crazy?

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Speaker 3: what's happened to Philadelphia? But Dimigo Ryans and neck Casario

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Speaker 1: Well, they have a lot invested already on the offensive line,

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Speaker 3: What are you thinking, John, unless Cole Popovich somehow has

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Speaker 3: think Kenyan Green's gone. He'll go down as a huge

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Speaker 3: failures and number one pick. I wouldn't bring back shak Mason.

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Speaker 3: I'd keep Just Scrugs, and I would do what John said.

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Speaker 3: If I had spent a little more money on a

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Speaker 3: I would try to get a veteran and because we

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Speaker 3: He just led the league in penalties, and Titus Howard.

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Speaker 3: They didn't draft Blake Fisher in the second round last

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Speaker 3: changes in there because what they did last year. Looking back,

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Speaker 3: Garrett Williams Houston Stressing's he went did the deepest die,

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Speaker 3: the most comprehensive thing I've ever seen for an offensive line,

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Speaker 3: taking grades from like Pro Football Focus, everything you wanted

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Speaker 3: to know. It was so good about you can't blame

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Speaker 3: to be the priority. And yes, they have other needs,

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Speaker 5: Speaking of quarterbacks general, the Tennessee Titans, I would think

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Speaker 5: He basically was saying that the New York Jets were

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Speaker 5: would probably like to come off that number one pick

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Speaker 4: But that seems totally stupid.

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Speaker 2: Do you buy that a.

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Speaker 5: Team is gonna give up a ton to move with

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Speaker 2: For what?

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Speaker 2: No, well, quarterback, you don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think the Titans are gonna draft the quarterback. I'm

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Speaker 3: when everything's done, people are gonna like Ward and Sanders better.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think for a minute that they're not

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, where's he gonna end up? In general? What's

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Speaker 3: To go back? And you look at what he did

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Speaker 3: So I boy, you talk about it. He's got a

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Speaker 3: I don't blame anybody for saying I don't want you

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Speaker 3: going on Pat McAfee's show for a million a year

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Speaker 5: Speaking of the Jets, okay, it's you crazy time the

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Speaker 1: You not not the playoff part, not the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Okay, but are you really going to go there again?

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Speaker 2: All right? So if they cut him he's an unrestricted

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Speaker 5: Let's make it a little bit easier with that that

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins in New York? What could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: far from controversy as you could get. He's trade arch

436
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: well over the first half, and then he struggled to

437
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: a point he got benched. I would think some of

438
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: that was because of coming off Achilles surgery. So now

439
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: he's in better shape. Of all these free agent quarterbacks

440
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: out there, like Russell Wilson and Rogers and him and

441
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: anybody else, I would think Kirk cousin second year back

442
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: from the surgery, that he is going to be better.

443
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Speaker 3: And so if he's signed with the Jets, there wouldn't

444
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Speaker 3: have all that controversy. And they do still have talent

445
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Speaker 3: on the team, so I could see them earning a

446
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Speaker 3: wildcard birth what.

447
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Speaker 1: Do you do if you're Pittsburgh, Man, it's so good

448
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback. I just I remember these conversations

449
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: and look, maybe we'll have to go through it again,

450
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Speaker 1: hopefully not for another ten to fifteen years. But what

451
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Speaker 1: do you think of Pittsburgh? What are they going to

452
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Speaker 1: do with that position, the most important one.

453
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Speaker 3: They've got two free agents in which means they have none. Now.

454
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 3: They benched boy, They benched Justin Fills with a four

455
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: to two record, and everybody gave Mike Tomlin the credit.

456
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin would not have benched him if Arthur Smith,

457
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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator and play caller, had not wanted to

458
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Speaker 3: do it, because he's the one that was coaching him.

459
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Speaker 3: So I don't know what the reasons were, but that's

460
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Speaker 3: what happened. And Russell Wilson helped him win a few games.

461
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Speaker 3: But I can't imagine they'd want Wilson back. That means

462
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Speaker 3: he's going to be playing with his fourth head coach

463
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Speaker 3: in four years. If they didn't think any better of

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Speaker 3: Phil's back, then Phils just doesn't seem to me like

465
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Speaker 3: a Steelers quarterback. A guy runs all over the place,

466
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Speaker 3: and so they'll get somebody. Maybe they do sign Aaron Rodgers.

467
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: Maybe he and Mike Tomlin have us sit down and

468
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Speaker 3: he Timelind tells him this is the way it's gonna

469
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Speaker 3: be and he goes, Okay, I can accept that I'll

470
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Speaker 3: have to instead of making fifty one million, I'll have

471
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Speaker 3: to make fifty I could see Rogers going there. I

472
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Speaker 3: think it'll definitely be a veteran. Another one, maybe it's

473
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 5: Here's my dark horse, number twenty one overall pick in

475
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Speaker 5: the draft of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Jackson Dart ole miss quarter.

476
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Speaker 5: I mean, the problem is if you either Steelers, that's exciting.

477
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Speaker 5: You did that with Kenny Pickett a couple of years

478
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Speaker 5: ago and it didn't work out. But I think Jackson

479
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 5: Dart is a much better player than Kenny Pickt but

480
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Speaker 5: a much higher upside. The problem is, you can't start

481
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Speaker 5: Jackson Dart day one. I mean you would probably, I

482
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Speaker 5: think you would have to get a bridge quarterback, you know,

483
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Speaker 5: like a riot Tannehill who used to play for Arthur Smith,

484
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Speaker 5: who is still Pittsburgh Steelers off its coordinator.

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Speaker 2: But you gonna have to pay right tennis and money,

486
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Speaker 2: so I don't He.

487
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Speaker 3: Made sixteen million last year, I think, and didn't for

488
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: not playing. That's a good game if you can get it,

489
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Speaker 3: come back or not. But I agree with you, and

490
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Speaker 3: it's amazing to me, Jackson Dart played a lot of

491
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Speaker 3: games in college. I watched several of them at Old Miss,

492
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Speaker 3: and I saw he miss some great ones and some

493
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Speaker 3: bad ones. Bottom line is, like bow Nicks, he played

494
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Speaker 3: a lot of games, not as many as BO and

495
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Speaker 3: since the season has ended, his stock has gone up.

496
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Speaker 3: And other than the senior ball, what's he done? And

497
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: so I'm guessing he'll do really well the Combine do

498
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: weldes pro day. People will be impressed with him when

499
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Speaker 3: they meet him for private workouts, and he's definitely going

500
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Speaker 3: in the first round. And if a team like the

501
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Speaker 3: Steelers likes him, I could see them taking him there.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

503
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Speaker 1: Hey, we began this conversation talking about your Phillips documentary.

504
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Speaker 2: What about Wes?

505
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't Wes get love in these head coaching interviews?

506
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: And I guess that McConnell's the play caller in Minnesota,

507
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: so maybe Wes needs to move up and do that.

508
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: But why not move up and do that somewhere else?

509
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Speaker 1: If that's possible, why not more attention for Wes in

510
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: the coaching cycle.

511
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: Oh'connell didn't call plays with the Rams and he was

512
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 3: hired a head coach. Zach Taylor didn't call plays, and

513
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: he was hired as a head coach, so you don't

514
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: have to and you don't have to call the plays,

515
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: but you got to get strong recommendations. In West talks

516
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: every week. I don't see any quotes from him. I

517
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: don't ever see him quoted, but by rules, he's talking

518
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: every Thursday to the media, and he's been pretty low key,

519
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: and he's a funny guy. You know, I know him.

520
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: He's a hoot, and he's been.

521
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Around a while. He's in his early forties and he's

522
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: got a lot of experience, including a long time with

523
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and I joked last season when they were

524
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: on their way to fourteen wins, he get a head coaching.

525
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: Johnny Irey's daddy is a defensive coordinator. I think if

526
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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell continues to win that it will help Wes Phillips.

527
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: Right now, everything you see about the Vikings, it was

528
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: all because of Kevin O'Connell. Wes was never mentioned. And

529
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Speaker 3: then when they lost those two games, O'Connell didn't get

530
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Speaker 3: a lot of criticisms. People like him a lot. That's

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Speaker 3: why I can't imagine. I just can't imagine they would

532
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: let Sam Darnld get away after winning fourteen games, and

533
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: I don't care what happened in the last two. That's

534
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: a good team with a good offense. And if I'm

535
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: Donald and I'm playing with those receivers, I'm thinking twice

536
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: if I from another team about offering him big money

537
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: if he's available, offering him big money if I don't

538
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: have kind of receivers he's used to.

539
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: All right, let me go beyond the blue lot here

540
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Speaker 1: with this question, you, with your Hollywood experience, General, James Bond,

541
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Speaker 1: it goes to Amazon. The Broccolis are out, they still

542
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: have a piece of it. But Amazon, which bought MGM

543
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: not so long ago, has full creative control over James Bond.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they'd do?

545
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: What would you do with the James Bond franchise now

546
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: that Daniel Craig is out?

547
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Speaker 3: Well, Daniel Craig, you got eighty million for the last one,

548
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: went into his fifties. I have always throughout Henry Cavell,

549
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: who is a British actor, very suave, He's been in

550
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: a lot of movies. He's built great, he looks like

551
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: a spy. He's played a spine sub I always thought

552
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: Henry Cavill would be a good one to be the

553
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: next James Bond, certainly better than Pierce Brosnan and some

554
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: of the others. And when I watched Roger Moore, now

555
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: he's almost a caricature, yep. But I love Daniel Craig

556
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Speaker 3: in that role. So that's who I would go with.

557
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Covey Brockley created it his heirs if he had control,

558
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: and there, like you say, they don't have those decisions

559
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: making responsibilities anymore. Amazon usually does it well, So whatever

560
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: they do, I expect we're gonna like it.

561
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Speaker 5: Okay, hottest thing on television though. On Thursday evening General

562
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 5: tell me you're watching the Four Nations final between USA

563
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Speaker 5: and Canada.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm watching the Four Nations. That's one of the

565
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: most exciting things I've ever seen. The NBA is so

566
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: envious that the NHL put this together, and especially with

567
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: us in Canada having three fights in the first nine

568
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: seconds since Trump tried to take over, said he was

569
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: going to annex Canada. The Canadians boo the national anthem

570
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: all the time while they used to sing it, and

571
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: now they blew it, and so there were fights and

572
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: now we're all expecting fights on ESPN. I just wish

573
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Speaker 3: it could be on ABC like the last one was.

574
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Speaker 3: I still expect great ratings. I can't wait. And my

575
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Speaker 3: favorite show on Thursday nights right now, starting back tonight

576
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: I will watch after the hockey is the Jack Reacher.

577
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: It's back on with Alan Richardson, who I think does

578
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Speaker 3: a great job. Third season they put on Amazon the

579
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Speaker 3: first three episodes, then you have to do them by

580
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Speaker 3: the week for the next five. So after the hockey

581
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Speaker 3: I'll be coming and turning on the new Jack, not

582
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 3: the new one, but the third third season.

583
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Speaker 1: And apparently the show is a more realistic Jack Reacher

584
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: according to the novels.

585
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Speaker 2: As post to Tom Cruise, which was short Jack in.

586
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: The book, he's six fifty yeah, and all he carries

587
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: is toothbrush. And my wife, who hates Cruise, said, well,

588
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: now when they got Cruise, he'll have to carry his

589
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: toothbrush and a step ladder.

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Speaker 2: All right, General, thanks so much for joining us. We

591
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

592
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: Thank you guys very much. Always have a blast. Look

593
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: forward to talking to you next week.

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00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's the General John McClain coming up. More likely

595
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: to happen international game stuff. Who's going to lead the

596
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Texans in receiving. All right, we know who, but who's

597
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: going to be second. I've got some thoughts there, and

598
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: Johnny will share his. It's all coming up here on

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00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Texans Radio. All right, back to it here on Texans Radio.

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00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: Mark vandermir and John Harris with you. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the game that everybody loves to play. We haven't played

602
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: it in a while. It's called more likely.

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Speaker 4: To happen, more likely to happen.

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Speaker 2: First up, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: More likely the Texans play an international game in Brazil,

606
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: London or Berlin. Brazil would be the Chargers, London would

607
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: be the Who because Berlin is the Colts. Let it

608
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: be the Jags of course at Wembley. At Wembley, so

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: more likely to happen. They played one of those, or

610
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: they don't play an international game at all?

611
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: What's more likely to happen.

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00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: The more I thought about this, the more I feel

613
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Speaker 5: like it's international game time. Okay, we have not been

614
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: overseas or anywhere to play in the national game since

615
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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. We went to Wembley. We beat up the

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Speaker 5: Jaguars twenty six to three. It was a very lovely

617
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Speaker 5: kind of rain on and off kind of day. It

618
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: was fun get that win internationally. The week prior we

619
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Speaker 5: had beaten the Raiders here and it was really explosive

620
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Speaker 5: at halftime. We came back and won the game and

621
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Speaker 5: then had a really good time and it was really

622
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 5: nice postgame.

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Speaker 4: Against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: It was really fun. The Brazil thing.

625
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 5: The more I've thought about it, the more I feel like,

626
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: oh boy, this could work now shot it.

627
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: Seth kind of.

628
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: Stole our idea because we talked about all this last

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Speaker 5: night that they were talking about this morning. One thing

630
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: that Sean and Seth mentioned that and thought about was

631
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Speaker 5: the Commander's kicking off the season playing Eagles at home.

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00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I don't know if I'm at home. Well,

633
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: oh for the link for the yeah, the link. Yeah,

634
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: they do a.

635
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Division game for that annual celebrate the Super Bowl Game

636
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: NFC Championship rematch right there at the link.

637
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels first game.

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00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: I thought about that.

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Speaker 5: I thought maybe, Okay, I don't think it eliminates the Commanders.

640
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: I haven't looked at the Eagles home schedule, but I

641
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 5: would imagine there's always the Cowboys.

642
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you right now, Okay, home

643
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: schedule too.

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00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 2: They have what the heck is this?

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously the division games, Cowboys, et cetera, Bears, No, no, Lions.

646
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Maybe the NFC championship game. We didn't. I think that's good.

647
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Now Denver.

648
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago against the Chiefs, they played

649
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: them in the playoffs. Oh yeah, okay, so Rams possibility,

650
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: strong possibilities, Detroit Rams division game. That's it. It's not

651
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: going to be the Bears. No, the networks will not

652
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Speaker 1: be fooled. No, we won't get fooled again. But who

653
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Speaker 1: are their AFC crossovers AFC crossover Well, the Broncos, Okay, Chiefs,

654
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: I don't see.

655
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the Chiefs. At the Chiefs.

656
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: Okay, at the Bills as well. Okay, so there.

657
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: That's fun. They're playing the AFC West, But the Bills

658
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: are their weird.

659
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: Yeah crossover first place team. Okay, yeah. I just feel

660
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: the more I've thought about that.

661
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: Brazil game that it I don't want to say it.

662
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Speaker 5: Makes sense for us, But do they want to put

663
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Speaker 5: a division game internationally? You know, maybe that should be

664
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Speaker 5: one of their international rules, like you can't put a

665
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 5: division game over you know, internationally. I don't know why

666
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: we didn't know we we did, but I don't know.

667
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: Maybe that's just something they don't want to do to

668
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 5: just kind of eat I mean, think about it though,

669
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Speaker 5: in a sense, it sort of.

670
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: Skews the division.

671
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Speaker 5: You know, if you're gonna, like especially the Jaguars, like

672
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Speaker 5: the Jaguars are used to play internationally, and now all

673
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're gonna go, you know, Jacksonville, where

674
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 5: we've dominated Jacksonville.

675
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna make us go overseas. But we won there.

676
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: I know, we did win there, so that was nice.

677
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 5: But so I don't know, I could see them not

678
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: wanting to put a vision game there, so it makes

679
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: more sense that we get one of these. But I'll

680
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: put it this way. I'll throw it back at you.

681
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: Which one would you want? London, Brazil or Germany to

682
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 5: play the Colts? Would you give up a game going

683
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: to Indy to go to Berlin to take on the Colts?

684
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do it, but I'd rather play them

685
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Speaker 2: in Indy. Yeah. I'd like going to.

686
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Indy and I love winning there because it's so satisfying

687
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: after all the years of losing.

688
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Speaker 2: They started going thirteen. There's likely to happen more.

689
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Speaker 1: Likely, really most likely to finish second on the Texans

690
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Speaker 1: in receiving. I'm just gonna go like this, Nico's first

691
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: ye a wide receiver or a tight end. Now, last year,

692
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz was second on the teams in catches, followed

693
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Speaker 1: by Tank Digs, Mixing and Metchi.

694
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Speaker 2: So who is it gonna be?

695
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Speaker 1: I'll give you a running back to wide receiver, running back,

696
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: tight end pick one, and we don't know.

697
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Speaker 2: Who the receiver is gonna be, do we?

698
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Speaker 5: Okay, So that's I'm gonna throw a question at you.

699
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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say receiver.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's obvious, but so it might not be

701
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Speaker 1: that obvious.

702
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 5: So here's the question back to you. Is said receiver

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Speaker 5: on the roster right now?

704
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Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? No?

705
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Okay, the receiver is not on the roster because I

706
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: don't see Meschi. You know Mechi can have a much

707
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: better year, but not move up all these spots to

708
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: be second on the team in catches with a healthy

709
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: Schultz or whatever they do with tight end with Mixing.

710
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: Maybe Nick Kelly is thinking, hey, you know what, I

711
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: want to throw the ball a ton to Joe Mixon.

712
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: He can catch and run let's do that. Let's put

713
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Speaker 1: that in the mix. He had fifty whatever catches right

714
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: for the Bengals.

715
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: The year before.

716
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Speaker 1: I want to do that. Yeah, so I could see

717
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Nick Kelly doing that. I would not pick anybody on

718
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: the roster.

719
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: If it's going to be a receiver, it'll be a receiver.

721
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: It's currently not on the roster. It could be Diggs

722
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: coming back, maybe Tank Dell makes a miraculous recovery, but

723
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: it's a receiver not on the roster right now in

724
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: all likely because Tank won't be back in time and

725
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: in all likelihood, I.

726
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Mean, think about it from that standpoint.

727
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: How many receivers are actually, like, take take Tank out

728
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: of this because you know, obviously we don't know his status.

729
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 5: How many receivers right now are on the Texans roster actually.

730
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: On the roster the ninety man or whatever they got

731
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: going Nico right.

732
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: So, like I said, Tank, Tank out of this. Steph

733
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: is now free agent x X metchi. Jared Wayne Woods

734
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: is gone. Sims is gone, He's been gone for a while. Yep,

735
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 5: Woods is a free agent.

736
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: You about the practice squad, guys, there's now there's a

737
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: observe future contracts now hear your reserves Johnny Johnson, Janki.

738
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Javier Johnson is janky on or he was a late

739
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: season Yankee, so.

740
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he got no, he did not get one.

741
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: Terrible.

742
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 5: So your two futures contracts are three? Sorry, Kiris Jackson

743
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: also from Georgia? Who is there? Those are your three?

744
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: So you have Kiris Jackson, Xavier Johnson, Johnny Johnson with

745
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: reserve future contracts, and then you've got Nico x Metchi

746
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: Jared Wayne.

747
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: Wow, they've got some work to do. They got work

748
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: to do. Absolutely, Let's go over to the next one here.

749
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: More likely to happen, more.

750
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: Likely to win their division in the AFC. Among the

751
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: second place finishers last year, they were the Colts, the

752
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, the Miami Dolphins, and the LA Chargers. Those

753
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: teams all finished second in their divisions. So among those

754
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: four Colts, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, Chargers, who's more likely to finish

755
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: first in their division in twenty twenty five?

756
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: Wow?

757
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Don't like any of those, Okay except the most likely one,

758
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Okay to unseat.

759
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gotta happen sometime, right.

760
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, and I hope it happened soon.

761
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 5: I mean, think about the Chiefs and just the the

762
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 5: hangover that comes from having such a ridiculously bad performance.

763
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: And we saw the Chargers. We know the Chargers aren't

764
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: a finished product.

765
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 5: But you give the Chargers front office and Harbaugh another

766
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 5: year of draft picks, another group of guys that kind

767
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 5: of fit Harbaugh's you know, physicality mentality.

768
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: I think I think it could be the Chargers.

769
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Listen, physicality mentality should go on a wall somewhere around here.

770
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Physicality mentality, I like that, or maybe I could just

771
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: say physical mentality. Anyways, no physicality mentality.

772
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not buying the Colts and the Steelers

773
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 5: just quarterback situation.

774
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: You have no idea. And what are the Dolphins?

775
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 5: The Dolphins are in some kind of football extension exxstentialistic

776
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: like realm.

777
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: For two decades? What are they? You know what they are?

778
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: They get sexy for a few weeks, yeah, and then

779
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: they they don't look good anymore. They dress up well

780
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: and they look hot, and then it never it just

781
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: fizzles out right.

782
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: It's it's like they have all these really cool plays

783
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: that all the people on social media can Oh, did

784
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: you see what Mike McDaniel, payn should be more like them.

785
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: What do you mean they haven't done anything?

786
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get all these really sexy plays and then

787
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: they lose twenty three to seventeen, like what they or

788
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: they win a few games like they were hot when

789
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: they came in here, hadn't they won four and a

790
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 5: few in a row, two ahead and throwny interceptions. They're

791
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: playing really well coming into Yeah, and then that was

792
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 5: and the wheels completely.

793
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: Now, what was the most impressive win of the year

794
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: for us? Was it? That one? That was pretty damn good?

795
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: Other than the playoff game.

796
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the two and a half quarters against

797
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo against Buffalo.

798
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 4: Are the best two and a half quarters we played

799
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: all year.

800
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: But the Dolphins game considering where you were, because there

801
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: was some doubt you had beaten the jag going into

802
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: the bye. Good, but they're the Jags. Who are you now?

803
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: You're going into the gauntlet, And even though you lost

804
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs and the Ravens badly.

805
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: But you physically dominated the Dolphins to me for four quarters.

806
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: Now I know they got You had to have it.

807
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: You had to have that game. That was impressive. All right.

808
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: That's it for more likely to happen coming up, you know.

809
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, Nick at Night, the Best of Nick with

810
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: Shawn and Seth. A couple of choice cuts from Nick

811
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Speaker 1: and some reflection. It's all coming up next year to

812
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: close it out ahead of Area forty five here, I'm

813
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Texans All Access, all right, wrapping it up here tonight

814
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. We promised this choice cuts from Nick Cassario,

815
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Speaker 1: Executive vice president and general manager, a guest on Shawn

816
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Speaker 1: and Seth's show called Pain and Pendergast In case you

817
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: didn't know that, but Nick was on for a long time,

818
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: talked about a number of things. Let's get to some

819
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: highlights here. We don't have time to do everything. But

820
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: what about this the Nick Kelly offense. What's it gonna

821
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: look like? Everyone wants to know. Here's Nick Cassario with

822
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Speaker 1: some thoughts.

823
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Speaker 6: I would just say, in the end, all this is

824
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 6: a hybrid of a lot of different things. Like in

825
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 6: the end, you got to be able to run the football,

826
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 6: you got to able to pass protect from the inside out,

827
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 6: you got to be able to handle exotics on third down,

828
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 6: and then you have to find ways to score in

829
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 6: the red area so you can slice it any way

830
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 6: you want to slice it, but that's what offensive football

831
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Speaker 6: is about. So you know, we'll see how it all

832
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: comes together here. You know, we have the staff in place,

833
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 6: so have some carryover from the existing staff, have some

834
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Speaker 6: new coaches that Nick has some background if they're familiarity with.

835
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Speaker 6: So this is what the spring is for, is to

836
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: kind of all right, let's look at what happened last year.

837
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Speaker 6: Just from a who do we have, who's under contract?

838
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 6: There's going to be a team building element that goes

839
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Speaker 6: into it. So all of this is very fluid and

840
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 6: there's going to be a lot of dialogue back and forth,

841
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: and hopefully when we get to September, like, we'll have

842
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 6: a pretty good team that we can put out there

843
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 6: and be competitive with whomever we face.

844
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Speaker 1: By the way, Johnny and I will have Nick Cassario

845
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: on the show from the Scout Combine on Wednesday night,

846
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Demico Ryans is on Tuesday Night Exclusive Visits with those.

847
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: Gentlemen next week, among many other guests.

848
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Speaker 1: All Right, the Nick Cassario appearance on Payton, Pendergass continued,

849
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: they went a variety of different ways. One of the topics,

850
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: of course c J. Stroud and they talked about Stroud's

851
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: workout regimen, how strong he is, the lower body strength.

852
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: Because Jalen Hurts came up in the conversation. We're kind

853
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: of picking it up mid stream here.

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00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: I don't know if we'll see videos of CJ squatting

855
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 6: the way that Jalen is. But not to go like

856
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 6: quarterback guru here because I'm not. But playing quarterbacks starts

857
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 6: from the ground up. So everything is ground based. So

858
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 6: your lower body strength, your core and when you're playing quarterback,

859
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 6: everything is ground based.

860
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: Again.

861
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Speaker 6: I know it's pitchers and catchers and we're about start

862
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: baseball season, but when you think about a pitcher, everything

863
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 6: starts from the ground up. So having a good firm base.

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Speaker 6: I mean, go look at Nolan Ryan, go look at

865
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Speaker 6: Roger Clemens. Like I don't know how much they were squatting,

866
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Speaker 6: but nobody was more sturdy in their lower body than

867
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Speaker 6: those two guys. I mean, Clemens had a big Nolan

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Speaker 6: Ryan had old man's strength, but he could bend, he

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you need arm strength, but you.

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Speaker 6: Also need torque and lower body strength which comes from

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Speaker 2: So what do you have to do? You have to

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Speaker 2: train those areas.

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Speaker 1: You know, it just occurred to me that I've never

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Speaker 1: run my Charlie Caserly impression by Nick Cassario. Charlie the

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Speaker 1: first general manager in the history of this franchise. He

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Speaker 1: would talk about, hey, he's got good loa. Hey this guy,

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Speaker 1: see he's got good loa meaning strong lower body, big butt,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Let's stay away from

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Speaker 1: those topics, but let's get into this one. More from

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario on paint and Pendergas talking about the mentality

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Speaker 1: of outstanding athletes. He went basketball, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 1: I love this cut.

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Speaker 6: Any great competitor. The reason they are elite performers is

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Speaker 6: Dance with Michael and what he did. There's a reason

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Speaker 6: they won six. However, many champion and chips. Kobe wrote

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Speaker 6: the Mama mentality. Kobe would they would play a game, however,

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Speaker 6: whatever time that was it to get done. If a

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Speaker 6: the schedule called for him to be in a gym

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Speaker 6: at four in the morning. It wasn't publicized, nobody was

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Speaker 6: talking about that. But there's a reason why those are

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Speaker 6: It's because they went out there and performed. But would

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Speaker 6: not enough people talk about is the work that goes

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Speaker 6: on behind the scenes. So it's everything that's done in

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Speaker 6: the unseen areas. That's what enables you and put yourself

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Speaker 6: in a position to have success on Sundays, the days

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Speaker 6: of well, I'm just going to show up on game

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Speaker 6: day and be able to go out there and produce.

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Speaker 6: Like that's a fallacy, Like that's a myth that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 6: And if you want to be great, your actions have

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Speaker 6: to reinforce and back those words. And in the end,

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Speaker 6: it's about what goes on behind closed doors in the work,

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Speaker 6: and that's what's going to enable you to have a

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Speaker 1: Man, I love that cut, so inspirational. Nick Cassario on

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Speaker 1: Pain and Pendergas this week some choice cuts from that conversation,

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Speaker 1: and again Nick next week at the Combine Wednesday Night,

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Speaker 1: Demico on Tuesday night, as we will be broadcasting from

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Speaker 1: the Combine Tuesday through Friday, and you know, Johnny's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in heaven there. I love the Combine. It's my

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Speaker 1: favorite event. We'll talk a lot about it next week.

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Speaker 1: Of course. One quick note on the way out personal

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Speaker 1: allow me to indulge Mike Lang, longtime voice of the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Penguins, past seventy six years old.

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Speaker 2: He was. He's the guy. He would say stuff like.

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Speaker 1: Scratch my back for the hacksaw or Elvis has left

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Speaker 1: the building.

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Speaker 2: He had that stick.

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Speaker 1: But he also was a dynamic, outstanding play by play

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Speaker 1: announcer and a guy who I watched set up.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even meet him.

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Speaker 1: I saw him setting up at the Igloo, that's the

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Speaker 1: old Pittsburgh Arena after I did a high school hockey game.

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Speaker 1: I saw Lang setting up for a Penguins broadcast and

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Speaker 1: I just thought, I want to be him. And he

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Speaker 1: was influential without even knowing it. So he passed, and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that for a few of

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Speaker 1: you yinzers who might be listening or might be aware

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Speaker 1: of Mike length Anyway, that's it for the show Tonight. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: we've got a full hour for you at six to

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Speaker 1: seven and the combine shows next week. Let's do It

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Speaker 1: Area forty five coming up next. Continuing to celebrate the

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Speaker 1: one year anniversary, Let's go have a great night, Go Texans,