1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here's your host, fourteen year 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: NFL veteran and Hall of Famer A Nius Williams. Hello, 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: old one, Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I'm a 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Nisus Williams. Today we're talking about competitors, what kind of 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: competitor you have to be to plan in NFL, and 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: how to use that drive to find your purpose when 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: your playing career is over. I have the distinguished pleasure 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: today to have this guy, Roland Williams, one of the 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: guys that I wish i'd played with, played eight years 11 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the Rams and Raiders, and my second guest ot bar 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: By job Bill Miller. So glad to have you with 13 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: US Raiders and Charges four years. Let's jump right into it. 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: All of this is organic as genuine. There are legends 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: that will be listening to this, and I believe at 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: some point, hopefully college kids and all kinds of other 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: young people have better listen to experiences. I start off 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: by saying, my dad says to me all the time. 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: He says, son, we here are old. There's not that 20 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: we're much smarter than younger people. We've just seen things 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: more often and not if we played the game. Think 22 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: about the current players who can hear some of the 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: things that we're gonna share, because as you get old, 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: there's not a theory anymore. You got the fruit from 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: either your decisions or we've seen other people make decisions 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: and we're now old enough to see what has a result, 27 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: what the results from those So the first one I 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: want to talk about it is being a competitor. We 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: know from a child man, that's one of those games. 30 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Football it is the number one check you. Basketball is great. 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: You have to have skills, you have to have toughness. 32 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I won't knock the guys. I don't only get a 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: fight little with Lebron Baseball you don't have that combat 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: every day. Football seem be the only sport that every 35 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: down test your manhood. Come on, tell me about this man. Well, 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, for me, football was um an opportunity as 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: a young man to introduce myself to the world. You're 38 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: in your name, you're in your brand by how you 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: play on the football field. And so as I was 40 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: a young man trying to figure out who I wanted 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: to be in life, the game has always been the 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: place that's given me a an identity, and so I 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: tried to use that spirit of competition to take me 44 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: throughout my career and on through my life. Being competitive, 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: being aggressive, giving great effort, and through those elements, everything 46 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: built from there. You know, for me it was different. 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I didn't originally start playing football. I was a basketball 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: player and my brother Kaber, who had so much success 49 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: playing did so well, and everybody thought, well, naturally you 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: should play. I don't want to, you know, I'm going 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: to the NBA. I eventually started playing. Wanted to quit 52 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: because it's so brutalis in high school, my senior years 53 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: when I started playing, and but what I realized once 54 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I got into, especially in college, um, it was a 55 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: great way to let a lot of frustration out um. 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: And probably one of my biggest frustration was something that 57 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: people tackle now. Back then we didn't call it bullying, 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: but when your teas relentlessly for being different. For me, 59 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: growing up in a Nigerian household um Nigerian name, uh, 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: my parents when were younger would put us in African 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: clothing and just people constantly doubting you, ridiculing you, and 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: football was a great way for me to prove people wrong. 63 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: And it was funny because my senior year in high school, 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: the only year I played high school football, um, is 65 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: when I started to make a lot more friends because 66 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: I had success on the field and it was one 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: of those week it was it's just a weird thing. 68 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: And so it kept me wanting to stay competitive. Like 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: when people doubt to me, every level I kept moving up. 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: There's always a sense of doubt and that competition, that 71 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: competitive nature kind of drove me above and beyond. How 72 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: did it help you in the NFL? Having that competitive 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: nature is one thing coming up, but all of a sudden, 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: now we're the one percenters. You get to the league, 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: everybody's talented. Now, how did you take that competition and 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: cause it to help you be successful elite? For me, 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I thought about, you know, every day I went out, 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: there was that I was going to do whatever it 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: took two to stay on the team, to be an 80 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: impact player, to make a difference. And I think that 81 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: when I when I remember back to the playing days, 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: I usually remember there was a certain level where certain 83 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: guys would give up or stop going hard. There was 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: a certain level they would give in the practice field 85 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: or in the weight room, and I used to always 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: look for every single opportunity I could to out to 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: them with the things that led before the competition. I 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: always thought that the outputs will lead to the outcome. 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: So if I outwork them every day and practice out 90 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: worked you every day with how I eat my food 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: fashion and you hell repeat that back you, you get 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: a statement that we need to make sure we hear 93 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: it again. The output. Yeah, Um, everyone knows about the 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: actual outcome, like you make the team or you you know, 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: you make a lot of money, whatever it is, but 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: all of that is based off of the little things 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: that come before it, the outputs. Example, if you want 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: to lose some weight, which I'm working on doing now 99 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: on this plant based night high party. Um, you know, 100 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I can say I want to lose weight, but it 101 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: really comes down to am I drinking the water I'm 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: supposed to? Am I really counting these calories and stop 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: being sloppy and I getting enough for us? And by 104 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: doing all the little things the outputs that lead to 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the outcome. So when I used to compete, I I 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: used to compete at the little things and then it 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: led to the big things. Now have you personally the 108 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: other other question to this, and I get your set. 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Our bar is have you taken that competitive nature even 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: when what you're diet you're desired is plant based deal? 111 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: Have you used any of your competitive nature even in 112 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: that aspect of your life. I think that is ironically, 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: when we stopped playing football, that is the biggest skill 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: set that I think we have to focus on and 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: make sure that we transfer over and apply to the 116 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: different parts of our lives. Like I'm coaching high school 117 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: football now. I have three sons, my oldest in the 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: ninth grade. It's easy for me to go out in 119 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: the field and to coach and to do things in 120 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: football world and the competitive me, you know, I show 121 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: up as that person. I'm already that football person. We 122 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: know that person very well, the demeanor, the attitude, the approach. 123 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: But then I realized that off the field, that's where 124 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: we have to be able to tap into it again. 125 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: And that's been a big journey and process and I 126 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: think that it really um the more I've gone back 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: and hit reset by me coaching and being around the 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: game's we helped me a lot more because it's the 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: same thing with our diet. Well, who are we competing against? 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: That's the catch leg, competing gainst yourself. I think everything 131 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: becomes a challenge, and you're right, Um, you know everything 132 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: that I've done, from whether it's my career after football, diet, 133 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, trying to manage that finances. Everything becomes a competition, 134 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: like I gotta do, and I tend to be extreme, 135 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: asked my wife. She'll tell you I'm pretty extreme, Like 136 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll go from not eating, you know, from being like 137 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: sugar crazy too. I watched a documentary called Sugarcoated, and 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I said, I'm completely cutting out 139 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: refined sugar and she's like, how can you do? That's impossible? 140 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh it is, watch me, you know. And then I 141 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: started going through this thing because I didn't really I 142 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: was consuming four or fives of sugar a day like nothing, 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: And you think that's outrageous, Well, it's very easy to do. 144 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Bar here. Before you know it, you're overloading your pankers. 145 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, boom, I'm changing it. And 146 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: then I said I'm going vegan and I was like, boom, 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: straight up, I'm going vegan track cold turkey. I just 148 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: woke up the next day after watching another documentary like 149 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm done. You can't watch me. But those 150 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: competitive things takes you into different areas. And you know, 151 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking here at Roland and he's got a championship 152 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: rings from college and a super Bowl ring here on 153 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: his finger. Uh. It was one of my dreams to 154 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: do that. I was never able to attain a Super Bowl. Um, 155 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't have the NFL career that 156 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I wanted. And you know, post career getting into broadcasting, 157 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: people are like, well, you didn't have the career that 158 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: I don't think broadcasting is probably the right route for you. 159 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: I said, well, well how do you figure? Well, look 160 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: at who's on TV. And I said, gosh, yeah, you're right. 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: But then that just that competitive draw came right back 162 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: in and says, all right, we're gonna find a way. Yeah, 163 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna find a way. I think bar is bringing 164 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: up a good point to as NFL players, we worked 165 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: best when we are provoked, when somebody gets us turned up. 166 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: And what I found out was when I go off, 167 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: when I went off to suburban America, raising my sons, 168 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, focusing on them their challenges, trying to mold 169 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: them to become I became like the chubby coach that's 170 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: coaching more than he is actually applying those principles. And 171 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: I think that was the part that that I was 172 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: trying to communicate. Our part you just did a great 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: job bringing it up is it's when I actually started 174 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: looking at myself and challenging myself instead of focusing on 175 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: let me but you know, you know it, but you 176 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: know what it is. It's something that you told me 177 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: as a rookie, So you know you're going back to 178 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: those challenges and being provoked. I was provoked by my circumstances. 179 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Get me going into the Raiders in two thousand three 180 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent, and they draft at that 181 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: time first rounder Tyler Braydon, they drafted third rounder and 182 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: Sam Williams, a linebacker who they converted to defensive end. 183 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: They already had a Trace Armstrong there, so all of 184 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: these things are already stacked u against me. Here. I 185 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: am just the guy, you know, coming as a free agent, 186 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: and I run into this guy, Roland Williams, and he 187 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: sees me working hard in practice, pulls me off to 188 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: the side, and with the smile that he always does, 189 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: he goes to be good. Is not good enough? If 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: you dream of being great. And now I go, why 191 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: say that again? To be good is not good enough 192 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: if you dream of being great? And I stud I 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: help that to my heart. I wrote it on my heart. 194 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: I said, I'm never gonna forget that, because every time 195 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: you think it's just okay to be good, then it's 196 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: not good. It's you gotta be great. And so I said, okay, 197 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: am I doing good? Or am I being great? And 198 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: so everything I approached that way. And I think that's 199 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: the type of mentality that I think embodies competitiveness. To 200 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: be good. Just think about that. To be good, it's 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: not good enough if you dream of being great. Most 202 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: people give you a pad on the back for being good. 203 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: But if you have that dream of being great, then 204 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: your competitive juice is constantly flowing. What made you wrote 205 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and what made you share that with him? When you 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: all plan? Um, well, my father told that to me 207 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: when I was a young man. Uh sort of helped 208 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: me go to that next level throughout my career. You know, 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't that good a football player, but I tried 210 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: to make it into an identity. Um, but it's so 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: funny that you say that. Now look at look at 212 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: how the world the tides have turned. Years later, you're 213 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: giving me now hearing my words back to me, saying, 214 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: do I have that dream of being great as a 215 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: man in every department in particular physically. We stopped playing 216 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: from playing in the league, But I think about I've 217 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: seen some of those fifty six year old men that 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I like, good, gracious, ault mighty, and I'm like, I'm 219 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: starting to feel like, no, I would like that. I 220 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: would like to be like that. And but you know, 221 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, having that the natural transition is that there's 222 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: a sense of entitlement that we get as athletes like 223 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: that already that's exactly right that I've been doing. It 224 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: was like, I'm good. I deserve a break. I deserve 225 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: a break. And that's when we're good. I literally say 226 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm good. But that's one of the reasons we do 227 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: the podcast because when you get that automatic mode, you 228 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: think about, we've done a number of these system thing 229 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: that I hear is a MONI tumor mentioned just what 230 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: you just said, Bar, you said, man, I just wanted 231 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I've been working out so long. I just wanted to 232 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: break right. And so all of a sudden, that break 233 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: can end up because it's hard to get out of 234 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: like I'm telling it to get out of that apathetic 235 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: mindset that just just being lethargic. It is so hard. 236 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: I've been there before, and then when you work out 237 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: an tell I'm never going back there because it's a 238 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: place where you just it just grows, and it grows 239 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: like a wildfire. I mean, it just keeps getting bigger, 240 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: and before you know, you don't feel like doing anything. 241 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: Here's the question I would ask. We're competitive, right, but 242 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: we're a family. Yeah you have boys, girls, I got 243 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: a son and the children. Yeah, I've got four kids, 244 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: two four? Right now, how do we balance that out? 245 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I think I shoot, because I've been in the thick 246 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: of this thing, because what I hear you, because you 247 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: saw the sugar deal. You're your wife. I'm done to 248 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: your wife, Like you can't do that, right, you can't 249 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: do that in the house. You can't like you got 250 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: you don't sugar through for y'all, y'all. In other words, 251 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: so how do you balance that out? Well, the balance 252 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: that I just stay in my I just stay in 253 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the zone. My wife knows that I'm around it. The 254 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: kids are eating certain things. I want to be able 255 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: to implement it. But I know it's gonna take time 256 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: to implement it. Uh, same thing with working out. I 257 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: mean there was a time, you know, being married, like 258 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I would literally have to throw my gym bag off 259 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: the balcony because my wife was like, well, you could 260 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: be doing this every time I would want to go 261 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: work out, Well, but you could be here with the 262 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: kids and then but you just got back from where 263 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: and it was just all these things. I was like, 264 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, Like, there's never gonna be a time 265 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: for me to work out. So I said, you know what, 266 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: the only way I'm gonna beat this is i gotta 267 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: wake up earlier. This morning, I woke up at four 268 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: fifteen am. I set my four fifteen am. You can't complain, 269 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: you can't say the kids on it because I'm already 270 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: doing it before. Everybody's waiting. You don't get up till 271 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: way later, and I'll be back from the gym before then. 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: So it's just like, so I said that on now, 273 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: it's hardest hecked to wake up at four fifteen. That 274 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: means I gotta go to bed a lot earlier, and 275 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: that's hard to because sometimes I'm going to bed at 276 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: having twelve o'clock and it's it's difficult. It is another 277 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: question coming to my mind rolling can you turn it 278 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: off in other sports? Like if you just go out 279 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: and play basketball, that makes it worse. And you gotta 280 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: get me turned up now. So I compete with my 281 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: with my songs and everything. I try to give him Sunday, 282 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, we go, hey, give him some quality time 283 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: in the evening. They can go ahead and do what 284 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: they want. They want to play Madden. They want to 285 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: play Madden Football. Now I'm trying to learn mad and 286 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: I've never played before. So my kids set me on 287 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: the rookie level and they commenced to rocking me, and 288 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. I know these coverages. I 289 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: know what they're trying to do. Why can't I win. 290 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I learned that you got to go up to all 291 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Madden because all Madden allows you, the level allows you to. 292 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Now it's based off some knowledge of the game. So 293 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm undefeated since we went on that so so so 294 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: so they get all sensitive and everything, but I'm like, man, 295 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: that competitive spirit it's still alive and well. So I 296 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: learned that. My solution, by the way, because we're talking 297 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: about this is like really this past week or so 298 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: has been a very big transition in my life of 299 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: identifying I would like to have greatness. I'm going to 300 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: compete in one of those UM physical fitness competitions before 301 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the age of fifty, y'all hear me now, In forty two, 302 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: I just recorded the kneeds is banged up and all 303 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: of that. We got all the excuses. Okay, no, no, no, 304 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: not excuses. By the age of fifty, I'm going to 305 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: compete in one those competitions. They have a new one 306 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: UM called the Classic Size. That's like Arnold Schwarzenegger with 307 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: it big, you know, because because y'all y'all don't y'all 308 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: were on the podcast but big road way in two 309 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: ninety five right now, but don't look to thank you 310 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: so much for that. But really I should be like 311 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: two sixty. I should be to sixty five right now. Okay. 312 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: So I got to confront that. I gotta I gotta 313 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: be real with that. So so now I've made it 314 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: a competition with my sons to say, I'm going to 315 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: try to get to this place before y'all get to 316 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: this place. So now we're competing doing in house workouts. 317 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Doing is your competition? Making it a part of the 318 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: culture to sort of help me teach them to see, 319 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm more motivated to do it with them, then I 320 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: would be something that comes to my mind when it 321 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: comes out of competition. We can also, if you notice, 322 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: we can get out of balance, you know, if you 323 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: think about as athletes, I mean we can go all 324 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: one way is the intentional element to set balance goals 325 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: because goals are eventually what we write down what we 326 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: want to accomplish. It really will drive you if you're 327 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: serious about writing them down. So one of the things 328 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: I found that's helped me balance this thing out is 329 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: having balanced goals. In other words, not just goals even 330 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: when I was playing that just goals on the field. 331 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: The goals okay as a husband, goals as a father, 332 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: because it's your goals that will direct your energy and 333 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: will keep your energized because it's purposeful, because without it 334 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: is easy to get out of balance. That's right. Yeah, 335 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Like when you mentioned let's just do let's just do it. 336 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: I love to hear people say, man, you look like 337 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: you can still play, all right, So I think that 338 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: you do right. So that's just one thing you just 339 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: enjoy here. But that's not my motivation, right, My motivation 340 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: is being physically fit a lifestyle. Right, So part of 341 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: it also is identified our motives. Yeah, you gotta be 342 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: because when you're competitive, sometimes out motives because imperre motives 343 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: sometimes don't bring the rewards, you know. And it makes 344 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And I think the hardest person 345 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: to get to know is yourself correct because God has 346 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: given this thing, this thing called denial, so we can 347 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: deny all of the ugly parts about ourselves or the 348 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: areas where we're weak. And you're right, you start essentially 349 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: chasing Oh maybe I should be doing this and I 350 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: should have a goal for this, and you're out of 351 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: balance and you start searching and you're you're reaching all 352 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: over the place. Um, but you know one thing that 353 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: could help, Like, and I'm doing this. You mentioned on 354 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: the like I've been hosting now American Ninja Warrior for 355 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: six years now, and UM, I said, man, why don't 356 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I try this? You know I'm still in shape, I'm 357 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: thirty eight years old. Why don't I try this? So 358 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it. So since um, since last month, 359 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: I've been training, trying to become a ninja. I'm not 360 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: the typical size or height of a ninja of a 361 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: typical ninja. But it's something that I'm looking forward to. 362 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: And what I've noticed since I've set my mind. I 363 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: picked up the phone, called the executive producer and said 364 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: I want to do this. They said, yeah, NBCC, yeah good, 365 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this. Um, And I'm like, oh, shoot, 366 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: I really now I have to do this And now 367 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: I'm training every day and it's putting me. Man. I 368 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: haven't worked towards something in a very long time. When 369 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: we did all this stuff, we were doing it for 370 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: that end result, like we knew I gotta get ready 371 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: for the season or whatever it was. Um. But that's 372 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: a great way to kind of triggered if you've lost 373 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: that feeling to be able to identify your purpose, maybe 374 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: targeting something small so you can get refocused and recalibrate 375 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: it again. I was gonna say that one of the 376 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: pitfalls I think what's had me stuck for a while 377 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: was I was comparing myself when I left the football 378 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: field two individuals from my community, from my family from 379 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the past, Meaning if I compare myself to my father 380 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: who is a diabetic with one leg, who you know, 381 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: so the hood rough round edges. You know, if I 382 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: compare myself to my uncle's name, you know, people drunk, 383 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: going through different situations, locked up. If I compare myself 384 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: to them, I will always have the feeling that I'm 385 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: doing great. But that's only great by comparison to extremely challenged. 386 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: So that's one of the big pitfalls is to not 387 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: break your hand patting yourself on the back with how 388 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: far you've come, which is a true thing. You have 389 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: come far from your friends from high school, or yeah, 390 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: you have come far from like your friends in college. 391 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to however, now it's important that, 392 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: like you said, we have to go back to establishing 393 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: new goals that push ourselves higher to another level. And 394 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: I think the second part of that is identifying your purpose. 395 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: What is your purpose? A lot of us walk around 396 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: without knowing our purpose, and it is hard because it 397 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: takes a lot of homework. It takes a lot of 398 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: evaluation on who you are, what you are. I've went 399 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: through that exercise, you know. I had to ask myself, Okay, 400 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: what is what are the things that I that I 401 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: Who do I represent or what do I represent? And 402 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: I had to write that down. Then I asked the 403 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: people who are close to me, who am I like, like, 404 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: don't think about hurting my feelings or whatever. And I 405 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: started to get that feedback and then I start lining 406 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: it up and I started running like, wow, that's inconsistent 407 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: with what I wrote. And that's a like these four 408 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: five people I just did. The five people were really 409 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: really close to me, uh, and they could tell me 410 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: the way it is and that kind of start to 411 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: help me with the conversation, having the self conversation. There's 412 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot of other building work too that that goes 413 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: towards that. But once you are able to identify your purpose, 414 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to get off track once you've 415 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: identified your purpose. And we know that because we played 416 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: the game when we had a purpose. Um, I mean 417 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: it's hard. Let somebody said let's do this, Like, no, 418 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: I got a game tomorrow. I can't. I can't. It 419 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: directs your entire lifestyle, at home, everything. And that's what 420 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: changed my life. When I give my life to christ 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: my junior in college. I didn't I didn't start playing 422 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: my junior I walked on a week before the season started. 423 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: I was just following my brother. Prior to that. I 424 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: have a degree in accounting. Don't even like numbers. My 425 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: brother is a CPO today. He's a numbers guy. And 426 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: because we were going to school year round, he graduated 427 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: with his accounting to grand three three and a half 428 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: and I was on pace to graduating three years he 429 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: started working for one of the big accounting firms. He 430 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: called me back, he said, a little brout to slow down. 431 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: You'll be working the rest of your life. That's when 432 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: I start trying to figure out who in the world's 433 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: and he is. And it's not as hard I bought 434 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: to figure out your purpose because it speaks to you 435 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: all the time. It is the boldness and the strength 436 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: it takes to be okay with who you are. Because 437 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: once you once you do absolutely, it's it's a done deal. 438 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you mentioned I think you 439 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: mentioned sweet spot. If a golfer hits the ball in 440 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: the sweet spot of the club, it goes further, requires 441 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: less less effort. For batter hits the ball in a 442 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: sweet spot of the back, goes further, requires less effort. 443 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: A lot of times we've identified ourselves as as a 444 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: purpose as a football player. That was never our purpose, right, 445 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: That's what we did and so through even through this podcast. 446 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: So we can just get guys to start thinking about 447 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Warren Buffett said, I started training stocks when I was 448 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: eleven years old. Right, So isn't it any wonder this 449 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: guy probably has the highest UH costing stock and probably 450 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: the history of the world. But he said, because they 451 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: were asking him questions, they said Mr Buffett has said 452 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: some some kids that want to Ivy League schools. They 453 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: were asking him and Bill Gates say where do you 454 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: see industry going over the next ten years? What should 455 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: we be majoring in? And he got real quiet. Now, 456 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: this guy in his eighties, and he says, I don't 457 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: know how to answer that question. He saw much rather 458 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: you find your passion. Your passion when you find your passion, 459 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: like I can't wait to get up in the morning, 460 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: and you just can't wait to get up. And with 461 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: my wife and I passed to a church in Ferguson. 462 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: We love it because that's that's where we're part of 463 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: things we're called to do. People say, I always get 464 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: the question living in St. Louis, you live in Man, 465 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: you can you can be in Phoenix, New Orleans, in 466 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: the rams of mood to California. Why are you here, well, 467 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: wh whenever you're in the place where you're supposed to be, 468 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: it's not the geographical area that makes it comfortable. It's 469 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: the place where you're supposed to be that becomes your 470 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: sweet spot. So all of a sudden, even though it's cold, 471 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't feel the same cold. Does that make any sense? 472 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: And that's what it says. We closed down this part 473 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: of the podcast. When we talk to talk about competition, 474 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I would say I would like to challenge our legends 475 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: to have a competition with discovering yourself. That's a huge 476 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: competition that that that alone. And I know you say 477 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: it's work. I don't know if it's as much work 478 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: because it's in and I know the work you took 479 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: do it and I not. There some programs and some 480 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: things that help people do it. What I'm sharing with 481 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: you is if a person just begins to pay attention 482 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: to what's in here, that's right follow if we can 483 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: just get you, it can be all the time. It 484 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: can be hard. And for the folks listening. And because 485 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: I I struggle with this, I didn't realize when someone's 486 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: like it's hard work, the hard work is because the 487 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: outside noise show our dreams have now become our screens. 488 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: The stuff that's in front of us, that the alerts, 489 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: the phones, the email, the text messages, and you know, 490 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: the busy life and just before you know it, you 491 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: just never can have the time to sit down and 492 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: work on yourself and be able to cut that time. 493 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: When I was going through that process, I literally like 494 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: almost like was in a meeting. I said, hey, I'm blocking, 495 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: like I can't do it. No, I'm sorry. I got 496 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: a meeting from twelve to two just to be able 497 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: to spend that time with myself. Otherwise other people start 498 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: getting is that one text message comes, Oh, I gotta 499 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: follow up with this, I gotta before you know your 500 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: the cat raise all the way until you go to 501 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: sleep and you recycle and do the same thing over 502 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: and over again. So it's that part. Like and then 503 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: once you're able to block that time out, you're right, 504 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: it does start to flow and come to you like 505 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: doing this podcast. This part of my sweets. But like 506 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: I can cry because when you talk about competition and 507 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: through the National Football League, I overcame fear. Yeah, I 508 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: literally overcame fear. And a lot of this stuff is 509 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: fear with guys fear, but fear doesn't identify itself as clear. 510 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: But a lot of times it's fear to become yourself. 511 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: It's fear to become who you are because all of 512 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, whatever the expectation of other people had, you're 513 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: no longer trying to fulfill it. Jez, you're follow me. 514 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Because fear doesn't always identify itself as such, so you 515 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: just see reactions to it are symptoms that it's there 516 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: because we don't always identify well with that. But once 517 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: I overcame fear, it became a game changer because you're 518 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: dare to become yourself. And here's the final thing I say. 519 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: Two things come to my mind. Confirmation bias. Confirmation biased 520 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: means once I get locked into something, I will find 521 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: confirmations to do it. It's just a just a natural thing. 522 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: And here's the thing I want to close with. And 523 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: this is the key for all of us. There's a proverb, 524 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: and a proverb says he walks with the wise, shall 525 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: be wise of companion of foods will come to destruction. 526 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: What we have to do is change the people around 527 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: to now where we're going. That's the key, because think 528 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: about what it says, it said he walks with the wise. 529 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: In other words, it didn't even say you're gonna have 530 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: to do something like along. Before I ever thought I 531 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: can become a cornerback in the league, I didn't believe it. 532 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: Even in college, I was around the guys. I was 533 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: just in that environment. Aren'tie dropped Peyton off at two 534 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Land where he was a senior in high school to 535 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: be out with the college guys and the pro guys 536 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: that were from New Orleans. Why he walks with the wise? 537 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: So do our best to get around people that in 538 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: those areas that make us uncomfortable, that are conscious about 539 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: their weight, that a conscious about us raising our children, 540 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: and begin to form new circles. Because it said if 541 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: you're just getting around them, and didn't say you gotta 542 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: do anything intentional. Because neurology, if they figured out the 543 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: people you're around, your brain waves locked together with them. 544 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating, man, It's been great, man, This is great. Man. Know, 545 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: we're mirrors from all legends because the players game. Man, 546 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: That's why they came up with the legends. At the 547 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: League office, I remember the Hall of Fame before I 548 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: got in, when they said, well, you call all the 549 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: former players, legends, what do we didn't understand? Man, to 550 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: get to the one percent, even if you play one year, 551 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: if you've got the training him and we want to 552 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: remind legends, that's when you are your capable of doing 553 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: great things. Whether you play four, eight, fourteen, it didn't 554 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: matter at this level to be there, however long we worked. 555 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Don't tell we can't do it, because sports was the 556 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: first reality television. It was the first. Don't tell me 557 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: we can't do it. So man, it's on. Thank you 558 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: Rolling for taking the time. I know your traveling. Thank 559 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: you appreciate it. Thank you just therapy for all of us. 560 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm about listening to these podcasts man, Rolling. Yeah, absolutely, Wow, 561 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: the best is yet to come. This has been the 562 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: NFL Legends podcast. To provide feedback or request the topic 563 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: for discussion, email us at NFL Legends at NFL dot 564 00:28:52,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: com