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Speaker 3: That should always be the expectation, Alright, Mad Welcome back

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Speaker 3: to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Mitchoice to off season. Teams

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Speaker 3: are getting better and some teams are getting worse. What

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Speaker 3: do you think, Richard?

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Speaker 1: Christmas comes early for a lot of fan bases. It's March,

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Speaker 1: and it is the onset of free agency. Anyone and

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Speaker 1: everyone's got a chance going into next season. The draft

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Speaker 1: is around the corner. We just saw the NFL combine

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Speaker 1: and the news hits early yesterday striking news. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks, because this is the biggest news. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Atlanta Falcons and Kirk Cousins signing a

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Speaker 1: four year, one hundred and eighty million dollars contract.

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Speaker 2: Richard, how surprised were you to see this move?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't too surprised. Raheem Morris knows Kirk Cousins from

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Speaker 3: their time with the Washington Commanders or the Red Skins

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Speaker 3: or the team whatever they were at the time. He

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Speaker 3: knows what kind of player he is. I know there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of criticism out there for Kirk Cousins and oh,

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Speaker 3: he's not a winner. He's not this, He's not that.

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins can flat out play football and he can execute,

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Speaker 3: especially in the offense they're going to be running, which

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Speaker 3: is again the Kyle Shanahan to Sean McVay, the Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 3: within that scheme. He's one of the best quarterbacks, especially

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Speaker 3: within that system. Everybody talks about system quarterbacks system, this

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan wanted him. McVeigh was looking at him if

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Speaker 3: he is gonna become available because in this system he's

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Speaker 3: a savant. And now people will say he hasn't won

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, Well, a lot of these quarterbacks aren't

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Speaker 3: winning in the playoffs. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: none of them are winners because the only people that

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Speaker 3: are Tom Stafford and Mahomes. So you can sit there

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Speaker 3: and dance around. He's as good as they were going

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Speaker 3: to get when it comes to a quarterback in this market.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna elevate those receivers. I think Kyle

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Speaker 3: issues still. You know, they still got moves to make.

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Speaker 3: They still but in that division, the NFC South, it's

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Speaker 3: been you know, nobody's wanted to win that division. Obviously

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Speaker 3: Tampa's wanted the past couple years, and they just resigned

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Speaker 3: Baker and Mike Evans, which is huge. But I think

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Speaker 1: I mean this to me separates them from the pack

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Speaker 1: And Desmond Ridard just frankly, isn't the guy. Is he

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Speaker 2: A punter runway. Kirk's got the game that isn't going

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Speaker 1: I know he's getting closer to forty, but he's going

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts can be the Kyle Pitts they expected, you know,

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Speaker 3: watching this football, but he is. And now they're replacing

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Speaker 3: But Steele, I don't know. I don't know what Sam

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Speaker 1: Well, the other conversation piece here is Richard. The Atlanta

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Speaker 1: get Lamar Jackson last year, and they were gonna pay

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Speaker 3: that stopped anybody before? Winn has going through the motion

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Speaker 3: that you just go through the motions, well why not?

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Speaker 3: And when you go through you find out, Now, if

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Speaker 3: tried to go get him. And it's crazy to hear that,

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Speaker 3: you still try, you do your best, and you say, hey,

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Speaker 3: on the MVP of this year's this season, and we'll

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Speaker 3: go with whoever we went with that quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's some teams, Mitchell, that got quarterbacks out there that

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Speaker 1: Richard, the other big QBD signing Pittsburg Steelers go out

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Speaker 1: and get their guy potentially, and Russell Wilson on an

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Speaker 1: absolute bargain veteran minimum one point two million Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: it unreal.

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Speaker 2: That goes to show you what they thought of that relationship. Richard,

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Speaker 1: Expectations of Russell in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's with Mike Tomlin, and Mike Tomlin, as we

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Speaker 3: all know, and as he's shown, is a winner. If

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have a winning season, because Mike Tomlin doesn't

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Speaker 3: do anything but have winning seasons. If they don't have

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Speaker 3: a winning season this year, that'd be an aberration. So

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have a winning season. I think Russell is

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Speaker 3: is understanding that he's coming into a situation of an

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Speaker 3: to win football games and knows they're doing They're gonna

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Speaker 3: run the ball. They're gonna run the ball well next year,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna play good defense, and Russell's gonna be able

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Speaker 3: to do what he does Layton ball games. Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 3: a good receiver. They got Deontay Johnson, another good receiver.

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Speaker 3: guys that can can make plays, but they're going to

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Speaker 3: have to. I think Mike Tomlin is different than any

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Speaker 3: is you know, the coaches he's had, the other two

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Speaker 3: coaches he's had, you know, I'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: But I think this is a good fit and I

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Speaker 3: think it's a metal finger. It's Denver to Denver. What

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Speaker 3: were you doing in the first place? What's crazy about this, Mitchell?

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Speaker 3: What's insane? About this whole ordeal is if they didn't

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Speaker 3: sign him to an extension when they traded for On Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: his deal would just now be expiring. So the new deal,

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Speaker 3: the new extension, has hadn't even started yet, and he's

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Speaker 3: playing for a different team. You're paying him his extension

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Speaker 3: money to play for somebody else that's his or franchise

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Speaker 3: management in general. You know this isn't about Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: as much as it's about the Denver Broncos. You don't

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Speaker 3: freaking send all those picks, send all those players, do

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Speaker 3: everything more gets your future To then turn around two

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Speaker 3: years later and say we got a new coach, are bad.

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna goodbye Jerry Judy, goodbye, Russell Wilson, Goodbye

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Speaker 3: Justin Simmons, goodbye. Like what are you doing? Like it's

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Speaker 3: a fire sale in Denver, and it just looks absolutely

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Speaker 3: awful on that franchise, on the GM, on the ownership.

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Speaker 3: Obviously they got a new ownership that not the same

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Speaker 3: ownership that signed Russell Wilson. But great for the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers to be able to have a quarterback, a franchise

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Speaker 3: quarterback making a million dollars too, gives you so much

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Speaker 3: so that he has a real strong team around him.

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Speaker 3: Now that NFC North is no Joe, Absolutely no Joe.

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Speaker 3: It's NFC North is one of the toughest. He walked

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Speaker 3: out of a tough division in the AFC West. Well,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahons and the Kansas City Chiefs, who Denver took

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right they screwed this one up big time,

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Speaker 2: Then they go after Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't work out.

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Speaker 1: They go all in on Russell Wilson and it goes down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's interesting, Richard, because last offseason they were

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Speaker 3: would stay for it. And then you lose Jordan Brooks

428
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: to Miami for thirty million dollars. He got good for him,

429
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: And now everybody thought. Everybody thought, since you got Mike McDonald,

430
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna automatically get Patrick Queen. That's over. He's in Pittsburgh.

431
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: But you're not gonna sign Bobby Wagner. Like I don't

432
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: understand how a franchise has legendary players. Bobby Wagner has

433
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: more All Pros than just about any linebacker in the

434
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: history of the game outside of Ray Lewis I believe,

435
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: and you can. You could guess it. If he's not second,

436
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: he's third, you know, and that's including Willis and Bowman.

437
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: You know, those guys are tremendous linebackers, legendary linebackers. I mean,

438
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: Luke Keigley is up there, but Luke Keickley didn't play

439
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: as long as Bobby's played. So you know, it's just

440
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: a numbers game in terms of that. But you got

441
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 3: a guy like that and people say loyalty, they're say

442
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: to but you only hear the loyalty on the franchise's behalf.

443
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: But when it's time to be loyal to a player

444
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: like you got to be loyal to a Bobby Wagner,

445
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: then people turn a blind eye to it. They're like, well,

446
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's the player he used to be. Well,

447
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: I'm not at you. He just came off a Pro

448
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: Bowl season. I see a career high in tackles. Like,

449
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying, but apparently Pro Bowl level

450
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: isn't good enough now, Mitchell, you you playing at a

451
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl level. They saying, well, you're not the player

452
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: he used to be because he was a out outside

453
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: of this world talent like you don't appreciate how great

454
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: he was and now he looks like, man, well he's

455
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: just a pro bowler. Now. When he left, you would

456
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: have been hoping for a Pro Bowl lineback and so

457
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: this stuff like that that did. Sorry, it just grinds

458
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: my gears right now. Where people are asking loyalty from

459
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 3: these players, Hey, take less money and stay with this team.

460
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: Who will cut you if you hurt your knee? Hey,

461
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: take take less money and go here. When this team

462
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: soon as you soon as you're not as quick as

463
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 3: you used to be, soon as your GPS says seventeen

464
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: instead of eighteen, they're gonna cut you. Like there isn't

465
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: loyalty and it doesn't exist for players, and players don't

466
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: owe it to these organizations, and they and really the

467
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: fans only owe it because they're from these cities. So

468
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: they're from these these states, so you feel loyalty because

469
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: this is home. These aren't home. This isn't home for

470
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: these guys. This isn't where they're from. And if it

471
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: is where they're from, then they probably have a little

472
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: bit more loyalty to it because they're loyal to where

473
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: they're from. But stop it, Stop asking these players for

474
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: loyalty and not asking it from these organizations, because soon

475
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: as these organizations cut these players, they're showing no loyal.

476
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: Wow, Richard, you're talking like you've had some experience in

477
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: the space.

478
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm tired of hearing it. I'm just tired of hearing that. Guys.

479
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: I love the passion, my man. I mean, you're right,

480
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: no fault to the fans, right, I mean the fans.

481
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: They're fans of the teams, right, and they're fans of

482
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: the players. I know.

483
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: I know the Sea fan bases come back around to

484
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: you as well.

485
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: After right, it's not it's not their fault. But I'm

486
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 3: just trying to explain to them, like like at at

487
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: these organizations were loyal to the fans and they were like, Hey,

488
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: we're letting the whole stay there man for free, or

489
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: we're taking a discount on tickets in the playoffs. Like

490
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: then I'd be like, oh, man, they show real love

491
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: to the fans, Like that's crazy, Like they're taking money

492
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: out of their pockets and pretty much giving it to

493
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: the fans, but they don't show that kind of love

494
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: to the fans, and the fans are loyal to these logos,

495
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: which is fine, this is who you grow up watching.

496
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. What the teams, the players are happy

497
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: to give you the show. Like, man, I love these fans. Hey,

498
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: you give me a lot of love. I give you

499
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: love back. But we go out there and put our

500
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: bodies on the line and give you the show. Hey,

501
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: we're helping your team win. Bang, we're doing it. Understand.

502
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: Players don't get hurt on purpose. They don't misstackles on purpose,

503
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: they don't throw interceptions on purpose, they don't play bad

504
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: on purpose. I promise you still trying to play good.

505
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: And so I just wish it with both ways, you know.

506
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: And there are great fans out there that are loyal

507
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: regardless you don't play well. They're still like, hey, you

508
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: got them, Like, hey, keep your head up, You're gonna

509
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: be great. There's great fans like that. It's just some

510
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: of these guys are so ridiculous. You're like, Bobby Wagner's washed?

511
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: What oh what is he doing at the Pro Bowl

512
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: this year? So if pro bol is washed, then what

513
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: is the rest of the league that's not at the

514
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl?

515
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: Like?

516
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: What is everybody else? If a Pro bowler is considered washed,

517
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: then what is the rest of the league. I don't understand,

518
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: and that's why I start to like plead, like, can

519
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: you make it make sense? It doesn't stop saying stuff

520
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: about these players that are really good. Just say, hey,

521
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: ah man, he used to be faster. So that's fine

522
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: because that's that's true. But saying somebody's watched is an

523
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: overused phrase that doesn't even apply to the things they're saying.

524
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: If a guy makes it to the NFL, guess what,

525
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: he's the one percent. He's the one percent of the

526
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: one percent. Like you can say whatever you want, he's watched.

527
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: He's an elite athlete, he's a world class talent, and

528
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: he made it to the National Football League. He's the

529
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: best of the best. So no matter what, he's the

530
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: best of the best, and he's been one of the

531
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: best of the best, and he made it all the

532
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: way to the end.

533
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: Give him the respect, Richard, I love the passion. Bobby Wagner.

534
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Obviously you said it already. This is his second time

535
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: going through these motions. The Seahawks realized they made a

536
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: mistake the first time and brought him back, and now

537
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: here they are again, granted under a new regime. This

538
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: time they also in doing so released Quandre Diggs, who's

539
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: been a stalwart in that middle of that defense, and

540
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, who's had a little bit of an up

541
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: and down tenure.

542
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: There for Richard.

543
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of movement in Seattle, and they've got

544
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: the eighth most cap space in football right around forty

545
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: five forty six million as we record this, and I'm

546
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: sure a big move will be to come. But what

547
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: direction do you see them taking this? Because there's a

548
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: lot more questions than there are answers right now.

549
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really can't. They have to shore up this

550
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: offensive line and they just lost Damian Lewis. That's a concern. Obviously,

551
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: they have a great receiving cord. They restructured Tyler Lockett,

552
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: which is great. You know, creates more cap space, gives

553
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: him longevity. That's how you treat legendary players. You talk

554
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: to him, Hey, you make a lot of money right now,

555
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: We don't. We don't think, Hey, it's getting tough, it's

556
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: getting tough to move past. We don't want to cut you.

557
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: What can we do to make this work? That's how

558
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: you talk to them, and then guess what, You'll have

559
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: those conversations and they can say hey, I'm good with

560
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: restructureing and let's make this work because I want to

561
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: be here. And that's what Tyler did. But you got

562
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: to give them. You got to give them the right

563
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: to do that. I think they gotta find that. Obviously

564
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: they got to find another guard now with Damian Lewis going,

565
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: but they got the interior of that offensive line has

566
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: to be a point of it's a point of concern

567
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: right now, but it's something they have to address in

568
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: free agency. It's something they have to address in the draft.

569
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what they're doing because obviously all

570
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: the big names fly off first, and there's a ton

571
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: of offensive linemen on the market right now, a ton

572
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: of guys, really talented guys that have gotten released. So

573
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: I think that that's the direction they'll go. They extended

574
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: are re signed Leonard Williams three year, sixty four million,

575
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: which is a reasonable deal. I think they're gonna need

576
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: to Jaron Reid is a big factor in that offense.

577
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean, that defensive line had a great season last year.

578
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: I think they're going to have to do something with

579
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: his contract. They got a lot of talent on defense,

580
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: Julian Love. I think there is somebody they want to

581
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: want to keep around. I thought they would go after

582
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen. I thought if they didn't, I thought they

583
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: let Bobby go, then Brooks with somebody they had to

584
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: bring back. All those things seem like they're out of

585
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: the window. So I have no idea what they're doing

586
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: that linebacker. I don't. I don't. You know, i'd be

587
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: interested to hear their playing because you're saying you don't

588
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: want to sign the pro bowler back. You didn't sign

589
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: Jordan Brooks back. You didn't get Patrick Queen, who's familiar

590
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: with Mike McDonald's system. You didn't get Geno Stone, who's

591
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: familiar with their system. You know the guys that played

592
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: for this guy. I thought he would be like, Hey,

593
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: these are plug and play guys. I can I can

594
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: get them. I need them to at least be able

595
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: to have some kind of continuity in this defense. They

596
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: have great corners. I think Tarik Wooland is going to

597
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: heal up. His shoulder, is going to bounce back this year.

598
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: He did great in coverage. Witherspoon looks like an absolute

599
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: star in this league. Offensively, I think, you know, JSN

600
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: is gonna be fine. DK is gonna be even better

601
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: this year. He's been really consistent, been fantastic in this league.

602
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: Your boy K nine is been great. But again, that

603
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: offensive line is where it's gonna have to start. Uh

604
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: Boye Mafe had a great kind of come out year

605
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: last year, really putting a lot of pressure on a quarterback.

606
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: He was amongst the league leaders and quarterback pressures and

607
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: sacks and of course fumbles, et cetera. But I think

608
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: that offensive line if you can't if you can protect

609
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: Virginia and give him time, he can dice. He can deal.

610
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 3: He can deal, and he showed that in his Pro

611
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Bowl season. But nobody can deal when you give him

612
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: a second and a half to pass the ball. Nobody

613
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: can deal when hey, we've scored thirty five points in

614
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: this game against Dallas, then the most critical play of

615
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: the game, we're just gonna let their best player runs

616
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: Scott free at the quarterback like who can deal? Like that?

617
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: So hopefully they fixed the offensive line, but that that

618
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: would be where I would start.

619
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: They do have a lot of weapons offense. We see

620
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: they are without now as we record this. Drew Lock

621
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: goes to the New York Football Giants, so they're gonna

622
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: be in a hunt for backup qbs as well. Richard,

623
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: We're starting to see running backs get paid. We saw

624
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs go off the board. We just saw King

625
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: Derek Henry go off the board. Saquon Barkley got thrown

626
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: a bag. You know, obviously Aaron Jones goes off the

627
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: board quick after being released. Let's start with the Packers.

628
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: This kind of scares me being an NFC North fan.

629
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: My Detroit Lions had to play this team twice a year.

630
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: They go aggressive this free agency period bringing Josh Jacobs.

631
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: We got folks in the Green Bay fan base freaking

632
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: out saying, oh my gosh, we got Josh Jacobs, we

633
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: got Aaron Jones. Two hours later they released Aaron Jones. Richard,

634
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: how big of an upgrade is Josh Jacobs to this

635
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Packers offense.

636
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's an upgrade at all, honestly, because

637
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is playing outstanding like it's no, no, no,

638
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: This is no slight to Josh Jacobs because he's phenomenal.

639
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: He's one of the best running backs in National Football League.

640
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: But again, within this scheme, Aaron Jones was fantastic, and

641
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: those playoffs against Dallas against San Francisco. I mean, what

642
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: more could you expect him to do? You know, he's

643
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: catching the ball out of the backfield, he's running the

644
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: ball really well. He got banged up, Yeah, that's true.

645
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: He got banged up parts of the season. He you know,

646
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: maybe maybe in that regard, Josh Jacobs is probably a

647
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: little more durable. But again, Aaron Jones wasn't making a

648
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: ton of money. He's not making a ton of money.

649
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: And you're not paying a quarterback right now. I mean,

650
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: unless you're clearly you're preparing to play, pay the quarterback

651
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: a ton of money, but you're not paying receivers a

652
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: ton of money. You're not paying jiy or Alexander twenty

653
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: five million dollars. So I'm trying to figure out what

654
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: you're doing. You're paying you're paying uh, Xavier McKinney seventeen

655
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: million dollars a year, but you don't want to save

656
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: six seven million dollars. Aaron Jones signed with Minnesota for

657
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: seven million dollars. You don't have that for him. A

658
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: guy who is proving in your system, he's a guy

659
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: unless there's something internally that I don't know. I don't

660
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: understand it because he seems like a guy who does

661
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: things the right way, and they would compliment each other. Fine,

662
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: I'm sure Josh Jacobs wouldn't want to come out the game.

663
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: But you see what Aaron Jones can do. So it's

664
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: never too much, never too much, never too much, never

665
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: too much, Mitchell, it's never too much. So you keep

666
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: poa but instead you give him to a division run.

667
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to toot to toot the Detroit Lions

668
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: horn too much here, Rich, because you guys know I'm

669
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: a big fan of them. But well, Brad Holmes did

670
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: last offseason. Produs right now is to be a sheer masterclass.

671
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: He goes to Chicago, plucks away a division foe, David

672
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: Montgomery pays them six million dollars a year.

673
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: You know.

674
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: Then they go on draft Jamier Gibbs, a widely criticized

675
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: draft pick early in the draft, and they give up

676
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Swift. Now we see DeAndre Swift. We go

677
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: to the Chicago Bears and get paid eight million dollars

678
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: a year. DeAndre Swift's a good running back, don't get

679
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: me wrong. But David Montgomery is the hammer and the nail.

680
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: He's a perfect compliment in this offense, and you get

681
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: him for two million dollars cheaper than the guy he replaced.

682
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs costs twice as much as that man, Richard,

683
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: you feel bad for the running backs.

684
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: They don't get paid as much as they deserve.

685
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: That's objectively, they deserve a hell of a lot more

686
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: for the value they bring to this game. But being

687
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: a GM, you got to be crafty in this spot.

688
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: And I'm with you, Josh Jacobs scares me. But if

689
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: you look at it from a numbers perspective, you kind

690
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: of kind of scratch your head a little bit, Like

691
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: you said, you had somebody in the house that's doing

692
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: the same job in Aaron Jones.

693
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: We shall see, we shall see, because the yardage numbers

694
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: at least a production is there for Aaron Jones, especially

695
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. I mean, we just saw Dereck Henry

696
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: get eight million dollars a year. King Henry eight million

697
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: dollars and he's going to Baltimore. That's a great fit.

698
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 3: That's a oh my god, that may be the piece

699
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: they need to get him over the top. But again,

700
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 3: eight million dollars, like I just don't I don't understand

701
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: because every other position. The number's gone up. Hey, like

702
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: you were saying earlier before we got on camera, the

703
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: guards are making twenty million dollars. Now there are guards

704
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: making twenty million dollars, tackles making almost thirty running backs

705
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: said a decent. I can't call it, Derrick Henry decent.

706
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: A really good running back is at eight. The best

707
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: running back, I guess one of the best running backs

708
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: is at twelve. They were at twelve five years ago,

709
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: six years ago. Mettell it has not changed. And that's

710
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: what I don't understand, and I don't know if it'll

711
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: ever change. I don't know if it'll ever go above this.

712
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: I think they're at their cap. But as the trend,

713
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: as the salary cap keeps increasing, the running back days

714
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: of saying goes down. It's sad. It's really sad it is.

715
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: And the Eagles they go heavy with Saquon and this,

716
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: this number looks huge for a car for a running back.

717
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Three years thirty seven point seventy five million dollars. Saquan

718
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: is a big name and he just swapped in the division.

719
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is big news that can't be overlooked.

720
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: What value does he bring to the Eagles. Does this

721
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: push them back to the promised land on the brink

722
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl? Are they still kind of that

723
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: same team that you saw last year?

724
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: Rich?

725
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, because the team we

726
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 3: saw last year started what ten and oh like something

727
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: like that, something like that, like they started ten and o.

728
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not sitting here down playing a

729
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: team we saw last year. They collapsed down a stretch.

730
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: But for all intents and purposes, early all they looked fine,

731
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: and DeAndre Swift looked good, and he looked like a

732
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: good fitness scheme. And it all fell apart. The defense

733
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: fell apart, the running game fell apart. Jalen Hurts got

734
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: a little banged up, the past game suffered a J

735
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: Brown all of a sudden was injured and didn't play.

736
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: So does bringing in Saquon Barkley sure the pass defense

737
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: that was thirty first in the league, I don't know.

738
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Like does Big Fangio do it? Probably? Probably,

739
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: But I think their problems weren't the running back, And

740
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: like like we talked about, they brought in DeAndre Swift

741
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: and I think he was only making it like six

742
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: million dollars last year, so you're paying double Are they

743
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: gonna get double the production out of Saquon Barkley. I

744
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: don't know. You know, Saquon is a factor in the

745
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: past game, He's a factor in the run game. He's

746
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: a great player, is a big name. I don't know

747
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: if this does everything this team needs them to do.

748
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: But we'll see.

749
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Their division rival, the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones came out

750
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: hot leading into this offseason saying that Cowboys were gonna

751
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: be making a lot of noise Richard, They sure have.

752
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: They lost Tony Potter in free agency and signed absolutely

753
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: no one.

754
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: What in the world is going on down in Dallas.

755
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: Mitchell, I don't know. I can't call it. They got

756
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: great players. They have a great quarterback who the fans

757
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: want to get rid of. They have a great receiver,

758
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: they have a really good defense, new coordinator. But I

759
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: just don't know, Mitchell. I don't think. I don't think

760
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard is that huge of a loss. I think

761
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: they feel, like you know, Rico dow Dobbel is gonna

762
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: be fine. I think they think they can draft and

763
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: they'll be fine. Running Back is one of those positions

764
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: we're talking about. It that is undervalued because they feel

765
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of guys that can do it.

766
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: So I don't feel like they feel like they're losing

767
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 3: a ton there, but they need to make a move.

768
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: When you say you're all in, then we expect Derek

769
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: Henry to be signed to the Dallas Cowboys. We expect,

770
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: you know, you to to grab one of these d linemen.

771
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: You know, Leonard Floyd, a Chase Young, somebody you know

772
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: a name that you're like, oh okay, Dallas, Dallas is

773
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: taking it serious this year. One of these corners, you know,

774
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: something where you're like, oh okay, you're making a big

775
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: meal another number one receiver. If you have gone after

776
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, Mike Evans or somebody or tried to you.

777
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: We heard whispers of you trying to approach Mike Evans

778
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: about a deal even if you didn't get the guy,

779
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: and we heard the rumors like, oh okay, Dallas is

780
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: really all in. They're going after it, but you're not

781
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: hearing anything. You're not hearing them going after receivers. You're

782
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: not hearing them going after running backs. You're not hearing them. Hey,

783
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: they were in on Josh Jacobs or are men they

784
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: were trying to get Saquan or or hey Man, Leonard Floyd,

785
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: are Chase Young and they're they're they're going after him,

786
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: Like you haven't heard that, So it doesn't. It just

787
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: feels like, again, a bunch of fluff from Jerry, a

788
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: bunch of hot air with no substance, because the substance

789
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 3: would be the signings. Yeah, I don't seeing it.

790
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: A couple other big names that went through the cycle

791
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: this this offseason. Rich Baker Mayfield and we talked about

792
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: it early on in the season last year. You said

793
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: this might be a guy that finally found a home

794
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: and elevated the Tampa Bay Bucks. Sure enough, they were

795
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: in the divisional round, got knocked off by my Detroit Lions.

796
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: But Baker gets rewarded three years, one hundred million dollars,

797
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: half of which is guaranteed. Richard, were you surprised by this?

798
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts by this signing?

799
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 3: Mitchell I was happy. I'm happy. Mitchell I like a

800
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: redemption story. Mitchell I think America. I think any good

801
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: human being with a kind heart loves a redemption story. Hey,

802
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: he went through the bumps, his bruises. If Mitchell mistakes,

803
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: you get humbled, Mitchell, and your rides from the ashes

804
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: like a phoenix. Mitchell, and he's in a situation where

805
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: he rolls like a phoenix for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

806
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: They gave him his money, his respect, his acclaim. You're

807
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: a number one pick, you played really good football. We're

808
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: gonna get your best weapon back and Mike Evans, and

809
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna show him a tremendous amount of respect because

810
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: of what he's done for this franchise. Welcome home, Baker Mayfield.

811
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: Good for you. Huh, that's a story. I can get

812
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: on board with Mitchell. I'm with you.

813
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and they bring back Mike Evans. The

814
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: question comes down in Tampa, was last year the ceiling

815
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: with this team? I mean, this team's getting older, you know,

816
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: Bakers in his prime. Firmly, they're gonna have to make

817
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: some moves in order to get to that next level

818
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: of constantly owning the NFC South, because it is a

819
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: division that could be owned by the Tampa Bay Bucks

820
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: if they get hot here.

821
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: Richard, there was a.

822
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: Cap casualty that came with these signings, and he went

823
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: to my Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions saw an opportunity

824
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: and acquired Carlton Davis. I know he was a former

825
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: team many years when you were down in Tampa and

826
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: I called you immediately, I said, Richard, what do we

827
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: got coming to Detroit here? Because Lord knows we need

828
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: some secondary help. What are your thoughts on Carlton Davis

829
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: going to the Detroit Lions.

830
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 3: Carlton Davis can play light out, just straight up, Metchell.

831
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: He can play, He can play corner. He's a man

832
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: to man guy. He can play any other scheme you know,

833
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: and all that, but his specialty his his go to

834
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: his mando man. He's a press corner. He's used to

835
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: being in there scrapping every playing and play out.

836
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: You know.

837
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: I think it's upgrade for you guys. Obviously you had

838
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: the injuries with with h E Man and and and

839
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: guys going out early. You had to go all the

840
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: way down to a practice SCUYD guy getting elevated at

841
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: the corner position, and that's stuff to do in the

842
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: NFC Championship game, in the playoffs and stuff to hide.

843
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: He I think he held up very well. But I

844
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: think this is a definite upgrade. Obviously, signing Man back

845
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: is huge. I'm happy to see that. I'm happy for him,

846
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: can't wait to see him back on the field. But

847
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: I think this is a great deal for Detroit. I'm

848
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing what Detroit does because they are

849
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: built the right way. They're going to get more pass rushers.

850
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: They're good at the corner now and that's a big,

851
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: big piece, especially in that division. And then with Minnesota

852
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: losing Kirk, Oh my god, that's people don't understand how

853
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: huge that is. Wait till you see how huge that is.

854
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: Oh you thought system quarterback, You thought anybody can do it?

855
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: Wait till you see. But then you know. Obviously Green

856
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: Bay is loving what they have in Jordan love and

857
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: what he's been able to do, so expect him to

858
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: get extension. But your boy, Jared Goff has earned his money, Mitchell,

859
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: He's earned his money. We talked about this during the

860
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: playoffs last year. I said, if he gets somewhere they

861
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: need to be, and he got him to the NFC

862
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: Championship and they had a chance, They had a great chance.

863
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't that they didn't lose it because

864
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: of him. He's gonna get a deal comparable to what

865
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, I would guess fifty million dollars what Kirk got,

866
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: you know, close to fifty million dollars, especially with the

867
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: cap going up the way it is. This team has

868
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: some runway, has some young receivers, has some young guys.

869
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: They're not paying a ton of guys, So I would

870
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: expect him to get get his money, and deservedly. So

871
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: another another redemption swan song for Jared Goff. Proven the

872
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: haters wrong. You know, got over the hump, got his

873
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: revenge game against the Rams in Detroit. You know, got

874
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 3: Detroit their first playoff win in a very long time.

875
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: Like you gotta appreciate that. I think he's you know,

876
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: obviously he's their best quarterbacks in Stafford, but that's not

877
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: saying anything because it just sloped Stafford whatever. But for

878
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: them to go this long and have Stafford for so

879
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: long and be such a great quarterback and not get

880
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: a win, and have Jared Goff get them to an

881
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: NFC championship game, you know, I think he's got a

882
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: lot of love in Detroit, a lot of respect and

883
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: a lot of regard, and he's gonna rightfully get paid.

884
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: Like you said, David Montgomery, Jamier Gibbs, that offensive line

885
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: is gonna have to that's gonna cost you later, Mitchell.

886
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 3: You know they they're gonna but Nay Soul is gonna

887
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: cost you, Mitchell, and he's gonna be maybe the first

888
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 3: thirty million dollar tackles.

889
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt.

890
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: And that's there's a lot of like unsettled anxiousness around

891
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: Detroit right now. We entered the offseason with you know,

892
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: seventh most cap space in football. Everyone's expecting us to

893
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: make some noise sign you know, go after Christian Wilkins,

894
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: Drab Daniel Hunter or something like that. But Brad Holmes

895
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: is playing a different game. He's playing the long game.

896
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: And like you said, we got a lot of people

897
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: to pay. And that's a good problem to have. When

898
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: you have i'man rob for an extension. When you need

899
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: to take care of Jared Goff, you're gonna have to

900
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: make Tonay Sewel the highest paid tackle in football at

901
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: some point, you know, Aiden Hutchinson. The list goes on

902
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: and on and on. When you draft, well, this is

903
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: a problem you face as a franchise. The Lions are

904
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: taking a very conservative approach. You know, they're signing guys

905
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: like Mark and Marcus Davenport. They're getting guys at Carlton

906
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: Davison expiring deals, a prove it type deal that if

907
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: they can come in and make some noise, can push

908
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: this team over the edge, you know, much like the

909
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 1: signings of the Man and CJ. Gardner Johnson. We shall

910
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: see with the Lions, Richard, I'm too am fired up.

911
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: I think this team is only going to get better.

912
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna grow, and this is just the beginning. There's

913
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: still some big names out. I think they're waiting on

914
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and I think they're waiting on Joey boss.

915
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I think they're waiting to see what the Chargers do,

916
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: and then I think they go and get a two

917
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: year deal with somebody like that.

918
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: That's my gut instinct.

919
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: Don't be surprised if Joey Bosa takes a pay cut

920
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: and goes to San Francisco. Mitch Trode, I would not

921
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: be surprised, know anything. I don't know anything. Might not

922
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: be surprised by that way. He loves playing with his

923
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: younger brother, and that would be a be something.

924
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: That might be the Eric Armstead replacement, right, there be something.

925
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: But there were a lot of great moves and they're

926
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: style a lot of great moves to be made, Jerry

927
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 3: Judy and Jamis Wiston going to the Browns, uh, the

928
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: Commanders getting Austin Eckler, Shack Barrett to the Dolphins to

929
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: you know, a great move, gave Davis to the Jaguars,

930
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Gus Edwards to the Chargers, Ubie Perkinson leaving the Seahawks

931
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: going to the Rams, Christian Wilkins getting big money with

932
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: the Raiders. They got Gardner Minshew at the quarterback spot.

933
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know what's gonna happen with Justin Field,

934
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: but it's been fun. It's been fun that we're not

935
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: leaving just yet.

936
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: We got to talk Justin Fields before we go, because Richard,

937
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: if there's any way for the Chicago Bears to fumble

938
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: this offseason, they have everything gift Fratform that they could

939
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: possibly want. You want the first overall pick, here you go.

940
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: You want another top ten pick, here you go. You

941
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: want a bunch of cap space, there you go. One caveat.

942
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: They got to figure out what to do with who's

943
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: in house, and that's Justin Fields. Did they wait too long?

944
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: Rich because it seems like there only might be one

945
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: or two teams that would have any interest in Justin

946
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Fields and one of those teams is in your own division,

947
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: and the Vikings. I can't imagine you're trading them there, Richard.

948
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Have the Bears screwed this up? It may be too

949
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: late to apologize. I'm saying too late, Mitchell.

950
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: It's too late because they're gonna have to trade him

951
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: for a fourth or fifth round pick. They're not gonna

952
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: get the second round pick they're looking for, or they're

953
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: just gonna have to eat it and get Caleb Williams.

954
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to eat it and get Caleb Williams

955
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: and keep Justin Fields as his backup. Like, they're almost

956
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: to that point where they're gonna have to do that

957
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: because your options are keep him, trade him, probably to

958
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 3: Seattle as a backup to Gino as a succession playing

959
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 3: the Gino. They let him sit behind Geno, sit behind

960
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: a veteran for a while. I could see that potentially happening.

961
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: I could see Minnesota potentially, you know, but they would

962
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: have to They would make Minnesota pay, you know, they

963
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: make Minnesota give at least a third. Everybody else would

964
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 3: probably be good with a fifth. I don't see them

965
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: really doing that, so Mitchell, I like what options do

966
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: you have? I mean maybe maybe New Orleans. You know,

967
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: do you really think the carrs the answer? Do you

968
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: you want to get a guy to back him up?

969
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: And you know Jameis Winston is gone now, Like, do

970
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: you take make that move to give yourself something for

971
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: the future? Maybe?

972
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

973
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: You know, outside of that, Mitchell, where did where? What

974
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: would you send him? Pittsburgh? At Pittsburgh, y'all want him

975
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: to back up? And you you done with You're done

976
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: with Kenny Pickett, like back up Russell for a year

977
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: or two and then succeed. I don't know, Mitchell, but

978
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: but you're right, they've lost their leverage and they're likely

979
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: gonna have to just keep him or trade him for peanuts.

980
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: It goes. You hate to see it, rich especially in

981
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: your own division. You hate to see it. Richard.

982
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: That concludes our early free agency little wrap up here.

983
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: It's been a minute since we've seen you, guys. Richard,

984
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: I will let you sign us off.

985
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: Well, I know it's been a long time. I shouldn't

986
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: have left you without a dope beat to step two,

987
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: step two, step two, step two. But I appreciate you

988
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: sticking with us in the off season pre agency preview.

989
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: Will be back for the draft or likely with the

990
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: guests or something. You could be anywhere in the world.

991
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: Let you here with us and we appreciate it. See

992
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: you next time.

993
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: The volume