1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: This is the Ads with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: We have a special guest today, another house husband from 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: the Dubai Housewife. Sergio Carao has been married to the 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Dubai cast member Caroline Stansbury since twenty one, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: right twenty twenty one. Their wedding was featured on the 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: first season of Dubai. The two men in twenty nineteen 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and have a nineteen year age gap. Is that true? 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Is that right? 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: That's true? Actually, yes, I met Karla when I was 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: twenty four antil it was forty three. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Fantastic. We have something in common. We both like older women. 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting because I can't wait to hear about 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: your take. I know, for me, it's never really faced 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: me the age gap or age difference in all my life. 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: You know, I've dated older women most of my life 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: and to me is just a number. It really is 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: about how you live mentally, physically, emotionally. Right, So it 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: sounds like you have a great connection with Caroline, So Sergio, 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: welcome to our podcast. First off, before we get into 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the whole Bravo with things, let's get to know you. 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Better tell us about who surged you is we know 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about you. You used to play soccer, 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and you lived or you were born in Spain, so 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about you. 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: So basically, well, thank you so much for having me. 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, I'm very happy to be here today, and 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for all the ones listening, you know, 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: for what's happening in La is terrible. You know, so 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: basically just about myself a little bit. I grew up 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: in Spain, in a small town next to the capital 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: in Madrid, and you know, start playing soccer when I 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: was eight years old, and then Real Marie knocked the 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: doors off my home at twelve, and I, you know, 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: everything has spit up a by quickly on my life. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: So it changed everything very earliest eighteen life. So at 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: fifteen I became professional with Real Madrid, and my life 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: I've kind of changed a little bit, you know, because 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: I didn't really have an or my childhood. I you know, 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: I was just playing soccer the night and that continue 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: all the way up to you know, I was lucky 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: enough to train with the first team, so I got 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: to know all the biggest players in the world. Christian 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: Ronald though, you know, some of the biggest ones, so 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: it was an amazing experience. And then from there I 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: kind of moved to the US play a little bit 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: in the US. Before that, I played in Europe a 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: little bit and then but basically I played soccer until 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: I was twenty two and then ended up in Los 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: Angeles because I was going to play soccer there, but 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: at the end, ended up, you know, just kind of 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: like retiring from my professional career as a soccer player. 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Ended up doing the Masters in International Business focus in 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: Media and Global Communication in UCI New Probid. That's why 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: I actually met Caroline and kind of you know, I 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: met Caroline when I was twenty four and my life 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: changed a little bit. That's kind of very very fast, 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, forward summer ese of my life. 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get into the nitty gritty. Tell us. 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Do you have any siblings. 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: So I have a younger sister, three years younger than me, 62 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: Sis in Spain. We used to be extremely close. We 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: still do, but you know, because I kind of moved, 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, from home when I was John and I 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: started traveling a lot, so we kind of, you know, 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: we stay a bit distant for a while, but we 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: always keep the connection. I'm very so I'm coming from 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: a very traditional Catholic family, which is very, very different 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: than Caroline because you know, when she grew ups, he 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: went to boarding school at the age of six, you know, 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: and she never really spent time with the parents until eighteen. 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Me is completely different. You know, I didn't have really 73 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: any friends. It was only my parents, you know, grew 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: up just you know, my parents that used to drive 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: me every time to training. So it was just a 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: very very close relationship with them. So and with my sister. Well, 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: you know, I remember my dad. My dad used to 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: work in Cicon, Bali, so you know, he used to 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: travel a lot, but he used to just just make 80 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: trips around my soccer schedule. So he used to pop 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: into places just to see me play. So we we 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: we're very close always. 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: How are your parents? Are your parents in Spain still Sergia? 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so actually my dad recently just moved to Bali, 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: Indonesia because I'm building a hotel there, so he's he's 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: running the project, so to work with him. Yeah, yeah, 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: So it's amazing. Actually had life tuning too the other 88 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: way because you know, when I grew up, I used 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: to I mean I still do, but I used to, 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, my dad used to teach me everything. Look 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: after my dad kind of like he used to be 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: the one guide in me life. And now he retired 93 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: and he's like, look, I it would be a pleasure 94 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: just to kind of like work for you and and 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: run up one of your businesses. So it's it's fantastic 96 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: to be honest, and I love it. 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: So I'm curious, how did you get into soccer? Why soccer? 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: You know, in Spain when you are little, you kind 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: of just you know, or you play soccer, you play tennis, 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: let's say. You know, it's just kind of for those two. 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: And I remember I used to have always a soccer 102 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 3: ball here with me. It was just my best friend, 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: you know. I was just taking it out, was you know. 104 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: And then I kind of so how everything happened. It 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: was I started playing soccering as a small you know, 106 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: just a team in my village. I was. I remember 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: in a tournament Nike was there, Nike the brand, and 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: they were doing a challenge that was Nike the Chance, 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: which was finding the best soccer player in Spain in 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: each position at the age of twelve. So I started 111 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: just I got into it. I kind of just passed 112 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: all the the kind of the tournaments and stuff, and 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: I became the best soccer player on the midfielder on 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: the left side in Spain at thirteen, so that kind 115 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: of knocked the doors of Real Maday a little bit. 116 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: And then that was kind of how I got into it. Slowly. 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: Then I went to London with Ramari for a tournament 118 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: and then slowly, you know, kind of just started with 119 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: a very basic contract in Drama Ri. It was just 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: one year and then I did very well. I scored 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: I remember sixteen goals that year. There was a guy 122 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: from the Canary Islands I was used to playing the 123 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: same position as me, and then the coach just test 124 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: me and then you know, I did very well that 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: year and then they signed me professional. The year after, 126 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: I signed five year professional with them professional. I was 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: I was very very young. 128 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Sergio, what would you say was your biggest 129 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: setback in your soccer career and how did you recover 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: from it? 131 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's very interesting actually soccer because well people 132 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: only see the surface, right, so people only see the 133 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: zero points one percent of the players that they make it. Actually, 134 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: but I was lucky enough to be there to go 135 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: through everything and then become professional and trained with one 136 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: of the biggest players in the world. And then it 137 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: was kind of like it was taken away from me 138 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: a little bit because I didn't really have a team, 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: you know, a place in the first team. The second 140 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: team was closed, so I was in a very tough 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: position in Dramad, so I had to I broke one 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: year contract with Ramri. With was a bit crazy and 143 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: everybody told me not to do, but I was just 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: not very happy and I I prioritized happiness than you know, 145 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: money or anything else, and I kind of just broke 146 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: the contract left Marie. So it was a bit difficult, 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: to be honest, I stay I think like two years 148 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: without watching any games. It was a bit you know, 149 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: I suffered a lot when I was little, you know, 150 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: because you cannot give your whole life to that, and 151 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: it was kind of you know. I remember I was 152 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: training with st Ronaldo on a Thursday, and then I 153 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: broke the contract, and then on a Monday, the market 154 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: was close, so then I didn't have a team on 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: a Monday. So it was a very difficult moment because 156 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what to do. So then the 157 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: quickest way for me was to move to Iceland. So 158 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: I went to Iceland to one of you know, Radiably, 159 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: which was one of the biggest teams in the country, 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: and I played there to stay feed. I had a 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: two year contract there and I stayed five months because 162 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: it was very cold and it was just not for me. 163 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: It was a good experience though, you know. So then 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: I kind of use the name I got from soccer 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: just to kind of like travel over and you know, 166 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: playing different places, and you know, at the end, I 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: ended up moving to the US. Played in New York Cosmos, 168 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: which was a good experience. Yeah, very good experience, lived 169 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: in New York. And then at the same time I 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: was getting my masters in my master's my degree international business. 171 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: So I was just I want to pay the university, 172 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: trying to do exam. So it was just a bit 173 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: trying to manage both things and then moving to Los Angeles. 174 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: But my dad always told me, look, you can be soon, Ronaldo, 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: but you have to have your backup, which is your 176 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: degree and your masters, you know, because no one really, 177 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: you know, no one really can't tell what's going to happen. 178 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: And most of my friends that they were actually huge 179 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: stars when they were little. They were playing in a 180 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: Spanish election, so many years they were you know, they 181 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: were meant to be the biggest thing. All of a 182 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: sudden they ended up you know, none really make in it. 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: And the guys that were playing with me in the 184 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: third team of Real mari and they were not actually playing, 185 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: they were on the bench. They're actually now you know, 186 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: some of them in the first team, Marie making million. 187 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: So it's just very unpredictable and very very tough a sport. 188 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Did your dad have a huge influence in conttinue into soccer. 189 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like he supported you through the 190 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: whole experience. 191 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: Actually, my dad was the one who told me not 192 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: to get into it because he was not a big fan. 193 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: To be honest, he was not really a big fan. 194 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: And you know, because how it works if you play 195 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: professional you cannot get a scholarship right in the US 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: if you play professional in Europe. So before getting into 197 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: Rama Rid, all our planning was to move to San Francisco. 198 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: I was going to Scure University, you know, just the 199 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: school and just kind of like move life there. But 200 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: then Real made knocked the doors very early, you know, 201 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: when I was, you know, fourteen fifteen, so it was 202 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: just kind of, oh my god, what do I do? 203 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: So I just move and stay here, and you know. 204 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Those are big decisions you got to make at that 205 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: age five. 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you're now you're building hotels. How do 207 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 4: you know, how do you go from you know, soccer 208 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: and now you're still young. 209 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: I mean you're you're not even are. 210 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: You thirty yet? I'm Saturday thirty actually just turned thirty, and. 211 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: Now you're building hotels. So how does that happen? 212 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 213 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: I mean I'm always been very entrepreneurial. You know, I 214 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: love business, and I remember the first morning I met 215 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: with soccer, it was just I was just throw, you know, 216 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: throwing it in places just to try to make things. 217 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: And this I'm always have like that side a perform soccer, 218 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: which is just very driven, you know side of me, 219 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: which I love. So, you know, after I think maybe 220 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: like the last three years, we've been heavily invested in 221 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: the real estate here in Dubai and we're actually loving 222 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: at you know, we're doing lots of one two bedroom 223 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: apartments and renovated and stuff. Right after Kobe, we went 224 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 3: to Bali and we actually tried to build a hotel 225 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 3: here and it was just a bit tough to get 226 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: the land. We had like some problems, you know, we 227 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: say no to Dubai. So we went to Bali summertime 228 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: two and a half years ago. 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: One. 230 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: I just saw the market. It was super interesting, you know, 231 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: they are wis where, you know, very attractive, and I said, look, 232 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: let's just try to build a villa for a well 233 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: selves here. And then slowly the villa got into maybe 234 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: a bigger real a bigger villa. Now it's kind of 235 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: like a small little boutique hotel. 236 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Nice. 237 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's kind of like yeah, yeah, but it's 238 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: like a fun it's a fun project. You know, it's 239 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: like a dream. We always wanted to have something that, 240 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: you know, it's just like a place where you know, 241 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: we're just gonna go the summers there. I wanted to 242 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 3: find a reason to go to Bali because we love 243 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: the island, you know, so this is kind of like 244 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: the reason. 245 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: Nice and tell me. 246 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 4: So, you know, obviously good looking guy soccer player young, 247 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: you know, you're probably thinking, you know, most people that 248 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: have those that all that stuff going for him are 249 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: probably not thinking to get get married. That that young, 250 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: and then you know they're probably thinking, you know, I'm 251 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: going to mess around for a bit with some young ones, 252 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: and you obviously do the opposite, right you get married young, 253 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: and then you get with somebody that's pretty old. 254 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: Which is pretty not older than you, which. 255 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: You want to get balls. 256 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: I meant. 257 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit, I mean, you know, 258 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: because you know, to be honest, you know, from I 259 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: could say from nineteen to twenty three, I really have 260 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: like a crazy life, you know, and I believe you 261 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: have to do it all before you know what you want. Yes, 262 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: I did that in life. A lot of people they 263 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: kind of go through different faces in life. I think 264 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: I did the face that I had to experience when 265 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: I was very young, and you know, I knew what 266 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: I wanted, you know, after doing all that, So I 267 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: had like that busy and clear and I think, you know, 268 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: that's why when I'm in Caroline, I was twenty four, 269 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: but all my circle, you know, all my friends and everybody, 270 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: you know, they were like forty five fifty because of business, 271 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: because it's just't I didn't really have people from my 272 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: eight and I think when when I met her, I 273 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: really felt she was you know, maybe thirty three, no 274 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: forty three, you know, like thirty, you know, and she 275 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: was just a bit older. And and also it was 276 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: a bit tough term city on because I met her 277 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: with no kids, right, so we started as friends, and 278 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, I fell in love with her as an individual. 279 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: But then you know, I didn't know, let's see carry 280 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: a backpack, let's say with kids, you know, which was 281 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: a big thing, you know, right, well, let's say that 282 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 3: was like a whole you know, let's let's dig in 283 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: to that. Tell us about when you met, how you 284 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: met and what went through your mind. Was it love 285 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: at first sight or did you take a while to 286 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: get to know her before you fell in love? I mean, 287 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: I definitely. I was living in Newporvitch at that moment, 288 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: and I flew from Europe and I remember this girl 289 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: actually who I think, you know, she liked me or something. 290 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: She was like, look, there's this event happening in you 291 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: Propeating Fashion Island hotel. You should go. And I'm like, look, 292 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go. I probably say ten times I 293 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: don't want to go. 294 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: And then the way it happens, though, right when you 295 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 4: don't know, somewhere I lead someone. 296 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. Literally, I was like, okay, I'm not 297 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 3: gonna go. This is just not for me. And then 298 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: he said, look, it's very interesting, it's about business. You 299 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: should come. I'm like okay. So then all the time 300 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: I called my friend and all the time my friend 301 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: was covering the red carpet of the event, and I'm like, okay, great, 302 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: so then I will pop in. You know, it's familis 303 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: from my house. So then he was in the VIP 304 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: area and he handed me a champagne and then he 305 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: left for a moment. I literally turned back and Caroline was, 306 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: you know, back to back with me, and we kind 307 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: of look at each other. We click a little bit. 308 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: I was like, it was just like a weird feeling. 309 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: You know. 310 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: We didn't really talk the match, but we kind of like, 311 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: you know, we connected somehow. And then all the time 312 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: I ended up staying in the Holy event. It was 313 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: Caroline's event, so it was like a stand up podcast 314 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: he was doing about women's empowerment, and you know, he 315 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: was just very fun in the state. He was just saying, like, 316 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, like I'm a minor three 317 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: these people in the front row, You're gonna watch more 318 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: because you pay more the other guys Vagina watch and 319 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, who is this like woman 320 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: talking about by Gaina here? This is so weird, Like 321 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: it was just it was just very funny. So I 322 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I'm gonna stay. Ended up staying the 323 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: whole way and then very funny. So everybody when I 324 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: was leaving, everybody's sitting in the stairs, I say bye 325 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: to everybody, and I thought, it's kind of like Caroline 326 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: a little bit on the back and I am living. 327 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: And then she said aloud, oh my ohod, my future 328 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: husband is living, but like southing funny. But you know, 329 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: she said it the first night that we met. And 330 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: then you know, I was like, oh my god, I 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: wanted to come back, you know, but I didn't. I 332 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: didn't come back, and I texted my friend and all 333 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: the time, you know, there was like an after party, 334 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: so all of us we met at the end. And 335 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: then that's kind of how I how we connected a 336 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: little bit, and then we became friends and you know, 337 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: same circle of friends slowly and then kind of like 338 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: got to know each other. But in the beginning, I 339 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: mean I definitely felt something different. It was kind of 340 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: like a it was just a feeling that I've never 341 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: felt before, let's say, you know, and it's crazy that 342 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: she said that, you know, oh my god, my future 343 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: husband is leaving. And then four years after we go martered. 344 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: So that's it's pretty crazy. You know. 345 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: How long did it take you guys to to actually 346 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: connect or hook up? I should say, because when did 347 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: you guys sleep together? 348 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: But it could be when the relationship. 349 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, I mean we were we were like because 350 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: he was in la and I was in Newburbs, remember, 351 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: so you know, and seeing it stayed that loone because 352 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: he was living there. So I think after like you know, 353 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: maybe a week or something, you know, we ended up 354 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: like all the time meeting altogether. I think it was 355 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: in soho house in Malibu or something, and then with 356 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: some other friends and then you know, I don't know, 357 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: another time. So it slowly kind of like we were 358 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: somehow we were like seeing each other like in different places, 359 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: you know, and then we kind of just you know, 360 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: got gone down. Then at the end, this is very small, 361 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, so we were just same group of friends 362 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: and seeing you some of my friends, so just you know, 363 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: slowly keep talking talking talking, I don't remember exactly when 364 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: we you know, he's the first time, but you know, 365 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: you know, it sounds and it took some time. It 366 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 3: took some time. Yeah, I mean it was it was. 367 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: It was not like, you know, straight away, but I think, 368 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: you know, we definitely, you know, we felt something for 369 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: each other from the beginning. I think, you know, it 370 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: was just a bit of like a crazy thing because 371 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: you know, we did annoy anything about each other, and 372 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: you know, and you know, I had to lie about 373 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: my age a little bit because you know, I knew 374 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: she was older, but then her friends saw me. Look, 375 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 3: you know she's she's you know, almost forty five. I'm like, 376 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: what almost forty five years old. I was like, oh 377 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: my god. And then she kept asking my age and 378 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm around thirty. I kept saying 379 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: around thirty. 380 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: I just left it. 381 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: I just left. I left. I left. I understand, I think, 382 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: like three months already, you know, a bit later on, 383 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: then you know, she asked me for my passport. 384 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh so it's like, oh. 385 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 3: My god, I just couldn't lie anymore. I'm like, look, 386 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm a bit younger. And then I'm like, I'm twenty, 387 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: and I kind of say twenty eighth, and he was like, 388 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: oh my god, and you're twenty eight. I'm going to jail. 389 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, look i'm forty four, I'm twenty four. 390 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: I kind of do it. And she was just she 391 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: was shocked, to be honest, he was like, I mean, 392 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: did she went through We went through a lot together, 393 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: see got I mean, look, I never really lie honestly, 394 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: because I say around thirty, it could be like, you know, 395 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: closer to twenty. But you know, I just left it there. 396 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: But you know, I think, you know, I think because 397 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: she saw that I was genuine and I you know, 398 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: I didn't really care how you know, who she was, 399 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, have like the key to anything. Yes, it 400 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 3: was just a pure connection human to human. And I 401 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: think that's why it worked out very well from the 402 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: beginning because honestly, see, this is like a friend to me. 403 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: This is my best friend. You know, we talk about everything. 404 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: You know, even if I see a good looking at 405 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, only look at that, you know, 406 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 3: it's so hot. So I think that's it's just like 407 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: a very very strong connection that we have with each other. 408 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: It sounds like you have a level of trust that you, 409 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to find with people in general. Yeah, that's 410 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of the same feeling. What is 411 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: the same feeling I have with my wife and I 412 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: had the same experience when we first met. It was 413 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: the first time I've ever experienced what people call a 414 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: love at first sight. It's just this weird feeling. You're 415 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: exactly in stars and you don't know what's happening, and 416 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: it's it's really weird. But yeah, it's I know exactly 417 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: what you're going through. What you went through, that's awesome. 418 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: And when she said, oh my god, my husband is leaving, 419 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I really want to 420 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: come back, but I couldn't. I wanted to be cool, 421 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: so I was like, oh my god, I'm so much 422 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 3: younger than I need to be the boss here. I'm 423 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: like I need to I like, you know, I don't 424 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: care or anything. And then, you know, I went to 425 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: the ballet and I test my friend like, look, I'm 426 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: thinking to come back, you know whatever, and it's a comeback, 427 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: and I came back, you know, but I know the 428 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: feeling is, you know, it's this it's a crazy feeling. 429 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how can explain it, 430 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: you know, but it's it's a it's a weird connection, 431 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: you know. I think it's a clear example how eight 432 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: is honestly a number like you know, we I you know, 433 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: I met so many women, you know, my entire life, 434 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: and I never had that connection I had with Caroline. 435 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's love. 436 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: And we we fight because everybody fights, you know, we 437 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: fight a lot, but then we love a lot, you know, 438 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: and it's yeah, and I think you have to have 439 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: that you know, combination. 440 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that I've always thought about with 441 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, the big question is how do you make 442 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: your relationship last so long long? And for me, it's 443 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: not necessarily the ability to love or the connection you 444 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: have with the person, but the ability to get through 445 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: the hard times, the challenges, you know, when life throws 446 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: curveballs at you and you're both you know, trying to 447 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: figure out how to get through life. That's the real 448 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: determining factor of can you live the rest of your 449 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: life with this person? And if you can't, at least 450 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, you know, but yeah. 451 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: The fun times, for example, the fun times, I say, yeah, 452 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: and I brought me for example, when I got to 453 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: know her, it was only fun times. So I never 454 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: really experienced anything difficult because it was look see how 455 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: things how I think we were just traveling, you know, 456 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: the war, meeting different places in different people, and it 457 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: was just a fun journey, very exciting. And then when 458 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: reality hits is when I arrived to Dubai, because you know, 459 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: there were three kids in bath, there was an excassman, 460 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: there was so many things going on. I was like, 461 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: oh my god, what am I doing? And at some 462 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 3: point I honestly told Carlin, look, I don't think I'm 463 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: going to be able to do this, you know, because 464 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: that is, you know, there was you know, see has 465 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 3: three kids, you know, twins, and one of the twins 466 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: what it was, and it's still very attached to Caroline, 467 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: you know. So he's very protective and he's home in 468 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: the beginning, has had a replacement that so it was 469 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: very difficult for me. I used to come into bed 470 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: and he used to push me out of the bed. 471 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: I used to sleep, you know, in another bedroom in 472 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: the floor. 473 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: I had a. 474 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: Completely different relationship when he was with us than when 475 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: he was not with us, and it was very difficult 476 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: for me because I'm like, oh my god, is he 477 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: ever going to change. How How am I going to 478 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: be able to have an oral relationship with Caroline? You know? 479 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: How they so when I met them, there were eight 480 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 3: years so yeah, eight years so yeah. But he he 481 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: was very I think a bedding secure, you know, with everything, 482 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 3: and I think, what really kind of like, you know 483 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: it really like you know, made his personality so much 484 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: more you know, exposed. He was just the fact that 485 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, Caroline just kind of like, you know, met 486 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: another man and I wanted to take that position his head, 487 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: in his head, it was like, oh my god, you know, 488 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: who is this guy? You know, young guy, you know, 489 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: trying to do this? And so it was it was 490 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: very difficult to be honest, even Caroline. You know Caroline, 491 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: when when everything went through like see what to the hospital, 492 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we went through like crazy stuff, and I 493 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: think that's why all those things that we went through, 494 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: it really built up, you know, the relationship, and he 495 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: made us very strong. 496 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, certainly the challenging parts of life build your 497 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: strength and build your relationship. Did the ex contribute or 498 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: help in the transition to help you guys be you know, 499 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: a good couple? In other words? Was he an asshole? 500 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: Or was he supporting. 501 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: No, he was. 502 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: He was. 503 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he was an asshole in the beginning, which 504 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: we you know, I completely understand because in his head 505 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: it was like, look, who is this, you know, young guy, 506 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: ex footballer coming into here and like, you know, just 507 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: taking my family. Like yeah, So he hated me completely 508 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: for a year. So it was a very difficult situation. 509 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: And then the kids as well, they took his position, 510 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: so then you know, he was feeling information to the kids, 511 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: and the kids were you know. So it was just 512 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: a very complicated thing and obviously no one really knew 513 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: about it, but we just went through it and we 514 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: knew that we're going to come out the other side. 515 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: And it is actually amazing how after now six years, 516 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: I think together yesterday we went to Coldplay and it 517 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: was the ex husband, it was Caroline, the three kids, 518 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: and or assistant actually all together and I was like, 519 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: oh my god, it is crazy how life. You know, 520 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: time heals everything. I'm like, I never thought I was 521 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: going to be in a place, you know, even in 522 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: a stadium with this other man because he was horrible 523 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: to me. But then now we are kind of I 524 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 3: mean we're not friends, but but we are, you know, 525 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: we're polite, and I think we can do lots of 526 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: stuff together. And you know, and now he's very happy 527 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: because he had a girlfriend. So that relating to terms 528 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 3: to load and you know, I think it went through 529 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: like a very big down in the beginning, and then 530 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: now we came out the other side and and now 531 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: we're even going to coshoveles kin all together as well. 532 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: So wow, you know, it is it is very good. 533 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's oh, we're modern family, let's say, you. 534 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and and that's great for the kids ultimately, Yeah, 535 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, when it comes 536 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: to divorce, it really affects the kids first. And unfortunately 537 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: my wife's ex, you know, decided to use the kids 538 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: as leverage to try to get to her and hurt her. 539 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: So it affects the kids aversually when it happens. 540 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 3: I know, for example, I I'm always going to be second, 541 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 3: you know, when I am with the father, you know, 542 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: with the father and the kids. Because for example, even yesterday, 543 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: little things in the in the you know, we're in 544 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: the scenario yesterday, and I was like I was a 545 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: bit bitched tough in the beginning, but you know, I 546 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: I you know, we arrange all the seats. You know, 547 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: we arrange eight seats for Coldplay. It was an artist 548 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: passages incredible, It's sold that completely. So we invited him 549 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: because Sacked the song was like, look, I want my father. 550 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, please bring him. And then we are 551 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: sitting in the best, best position, and then the daughter 552 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: is like the father goes to get some food. The daughter, 553 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: Carolin's daughter is like please can I can you move 554 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: because I want my dad here? And I'm like okay, 555 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: And then it was like kind of like a bit 556 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: you know that you know, we arranged he's aware, guess, 557 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: but but I had to move to the worst seat 558 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: basically to just leave him the best place. And it 559 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: was just a bit, you know, so all those things 560 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: are still you know, I'm still struggling a little bit, 561 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: but it's normal, I guess. You know. 562 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: That's very mature and amazing that you did that. I mean, 563 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: that speaks volumes of what kind of man you are. 564 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: That's awesome, Surgio. 565 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, I mean, I did it, 566 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: but I was looking at Cal and I'm like, what, 567 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm not moving, I'm not moving like this, go, yes, go, 568 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm like oh my god. So then you know, I 569 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: guess also a big thing that plays you know, you 570 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: know where advantage is the ages cup because I kind 571 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: of you know, I look after cow and I so 572 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: I learned from hair load, you know. So you know, 573 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: because he has a lot of more experience on mean life, 574 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: and I think that's why we work very well together. 575 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that I was going to say that 576 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: you get you sort of get the best of both worlds, right, 577 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: because you have her wisdom, but she's also beautiful. I mean, 578 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: she still looks like she's s thirty, right, So you 579 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: get the best of the both worlds because a thirty 580 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: ye old normally doesn't have the wisdom. She kind of 581 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 4: looks like a thirty year old and she's got the wisdom. 582 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: It's the best of both worlds. My question to you 583 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: when you were going through those tough times, how what 584 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: made you hold on and not just say I'm out right? 585 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: Because you could have easily set them out with all 586 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: that chaos that was happening, and it's not like you 587 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: couldn't go find another woman, right, But so what made 588 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: you hold on? Because again, that's where arrogance can take 589 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: over and you're like why am I dealing with this? 590 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: I could go find me someone right now. 591 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: That's a great question. 592 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: Holding on. 593 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good question. Actually well kept holding on. 594 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: I think I guess that feeling I had for Caroline, 595 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, and how you know, I think because I'm 596 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: a libras, I'm very loyal and I'm very like you 597 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: know when I think because of soccer as well, everything 598 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: I went through. When I take a the season, I 599 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: take it and I stick to it. And I knew 600 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: what I wanted and I knew, you know, I've never 601 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: had this connection. And I think a lot of people 602 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: they have the mistake of, you know, always want them 603 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: more or they think the grass is greener on the 604 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: other side or a bit more greener. And I I obviously, 605 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: you know, I had always my text of the dream 606 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 3: wife I wanted, which is this, this, this, this, this 607 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: on those texts, it was not finding you know, one 608 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: eighteen years older than me and three kids, because initially, 609 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to create a family. I wanted 610 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: to you know, like go through the normal steps and 611 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: process in life, right and I got to a position 612 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 3: that you know, I already have three kids growing up 613 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: that and not mine so it's just a bit weird. 614 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: But I think, you know, the love that I felt, 615 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: that the feeling that I fre in the beginning for Caroline, 616 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: that's what made me stick to it. And I think 617 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: the you know, just seeing her, how you know, how 618 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: happy I met her. And I think, you know, I 619 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: knew the kids, and I think this I learned as 620 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: well from Caroline and the kids. Look, a lot of 621 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: people they stick to the families and everything because of 622 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: the kids. But at the end, the kids are going 623 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: to build their own lives. They're gonna just grow. And 624 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: at the end of the you end the balon or 625 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: with a partner, you know, And that's the truth, you know, 626 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: So you need to be happy, and that's caroline philosophy. 627 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: And you know, the kids are amazing now, but I mean, yeah, 628 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: the daughter is eighteen, she's in university and she comes 629 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: here once a year. She's gonna build her own life. 630 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: And then so Caroline took the decision of you know, 631 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: just living you know, the eggs and staying with me, 632 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: and then we're super happy. So I think I learned 633 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: all that mentally different her and I knew that we 634 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: were going to come out the other side and We're 635 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: going to be Caroline and me after going through what 636 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: we went through. The kids, which they're they're always going 637 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: to stay in our lives, but you know, at the end, 638 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: it's just going to be Caroline and me. We're gonna 639 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: be happy. So you know, well, yeah, I love that. 640 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 4: And so speaking of that, you know, you've always wanted 641 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: to have kids, and I know that you guys been 642 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: talking about that. 643 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: How's that going? 644 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the big question everybody. I feel like 645 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: everybody wants this baby. I'm like, yeah, I mean, look, 646 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: it's just a bit the interesting for me because I'm 647 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: coming from a very big family. My dad. They are, 648 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: you know, nine brothers, one sister. The sister has eleven kids, tripless, 649 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: so I have forty one cousins from my dad's side, 650 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: it's a mine is a creative family. And then my 651 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: mom's side is a bit smaller, but still like you know, 652 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: fourteen fourteen, you know, cousins. So, you know, I love 653 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: the family. I love noise in the house. I love 654 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: you know, having a lot of people around. So the 655 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: question is are we going to have a baby? I mean, 656 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: we are, We're considering having a baby. We're continuing you know, 657 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 3: we we the DIBF, so we we have a baby 658 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: ready to go, a boy genetically perfect, so it's mixed already. 659 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: We just need to find a body basically, you know. 660 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: So Caroline, I don't think Karlin is gonna carry because 661 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: you know, she had preclamcya before when she had the 662 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: twins and suffer a lot. So the last thing I 663 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: want is, you know, for her to suffer a right, 664 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: even though the doctors said that she could carry before 665 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: fifty but I don't. I don't think we're gonna do it. 666 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: So now the question is, you know, we are looking 667 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: Abu Dabi. Now they just legalize surugacy here in the 668 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: Middle East, which is very good news because I didn't 669 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: want to have my baby, you know, in the US 670 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: or Europe because it's very far, you know. So it's 671 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: a you know, it's a positive thing that now we're 672 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: allowed to do it here. So we're still looking and considering. 673 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: I don't know when it's gonna happen, but it's a 674 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's a thing that we have there, let's say, 675 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: you know, so it's pretty cool. Yeah, our life will 676 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: change a lot, to be honest, because now you know, 677 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: we have a very good life because basically the kids 678 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: stay with us one week and then they go one 679 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: week with the father, and then the week they go, 680 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: we normally travel. So it is just it's very convenient 681 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: for us, you know, because we are all here, so 682 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: we just you know, we travel, so we get both lives. 683 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: You know. 684 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Where does the father live? 685 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: So the final live here? Oh he does, okay in yeah, yeah, 686 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: so it's only twenty five minutes from here. So we 687 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: have a very easy relationship. So when the father, for example, 688 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: it's traveling, the kids come with us. Oh you know, 689 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: vice versa. So it's just a one week one week. 690 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: But normally, you know, sometimes for example, we went to 691 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: Australia recently, it was three weeks, so they stayed with 692 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: them three So it's just very flexible, you. 693 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: Know, nice, very nice. I remember when my wife and 694 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: I first got together, it was fifty to fifty custody, 695 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: and the days that they were not with us, we 696 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: would always be doing something fun, traveling or you know, 697 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: just what you know couples do. And when they were 698 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: with us, it completely changed dynamics. We were more responsible 699 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we were a family. And then it 700 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: got to a point where the kids didn't want to 701 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: do that anymore, and they ended up full time with 702 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: us and totally through a wrench monkey wrench in my 703 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: whole system. 704 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: Question, like, you know, do we want to have a 705 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: baby and change our life completely and are the dynamic 706 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: because you know now, I mean we are really back 707 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: to being like twenty years old escaping the world that 708 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: week because we literally just go, you know, so yeah 709 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: it is. It is fantastic to be honest, you know, 710 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: and then the week there here we get the whole 711 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: family life. 712 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: I do get that impression because I kind of looked 713 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: at your Instagram for a while and you guys are 714 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: all over the world and it's so exciting and so 715 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: much fun to watch. And I do enjoy the videos 716 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: that you guys created. They're really good, very creative, very funny. 717 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Yah. 718 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: That's my that's my passion passion side of you know, 719 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: I love I love creating content. I love I'm verdy creative. 720 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: That's why I'm enjoying so much, you know, building the hotel, 721 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: because I'm putting a lot of creativity behind you know, awesome, 722 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: But I mean we kind of pose the kids and 723 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: they don't want to be in the Instagram morning and 724 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: the kids. But we we spend time with them. You know. 725 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: It's just that we only you know, post all the 726 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: troubles and things, you know, but we go we get 727 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: both lives, which is fantastic, to be honest. You know. 728 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: My question you because you mentioned this earlier. 729 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 4: I'm curious, how does Caroline do with when she comes 730 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 4: and meets you know, you know big Glatin families, they 731 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: have big gatherings. How does she deal with those big 732 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: gatherings when she's got to show up and there's you know, 733 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 4: fifty people there and you know, they have their traditions. 734 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: How does she deal with it? 735 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: It's very funny. See I mean in a way, I 736 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: think see that she hates them, like she hates the 737 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: whole thing because it's just no very family oriented. You know, 738 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: see got better at it, you know. You know, my 739 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 3: family they make so much effort, like they speaking list 740 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: and staff and they bring her food and things. But 741 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: she's just Caroline has these things because he went to 742 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: boarding their school seems very early, you know. And you know, 743 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: I always say I wish I introduced my parents as 744 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: my best friends to Caroline. Here's Violet, my friend, my 745 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: mom and this is my dad, which is not my dad, 746 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: it's someone that I know. I spend a lot of 747 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: time with it. Because Caroline, as soon as you hear 748 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: the word father and mother, she becomes like it's like 749 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 3: a frozen it's like cold. She cannot even do anything 750 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: to them. I'm like, it's crazy, it's crazy. And I 751 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: think it's because of boording in school, because she just, 752 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: you know, she just went through a load and like, 753 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: you know, they were not very you know, spending time 754 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 3: with her and stuff, and she just cannot really established 755 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: her relationship with parents. 756 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's more like a business 757 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: transaction than a emotional relationship. 758 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: Are percent I coind of you know, I cry when 759 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 3: the when Caroline's father is leaving the house here because 760 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm very emotion and he's lovely and Caroline is already 761 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: upstairs like it's like okay, like he's literally pushing them out. 762 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. You know. So it's just 763 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: it's just very funny, to be honest, you. 764 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Know, how often do you guys spend time with your family. 765 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: I just came back now. So Caroline also always like 766 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: she kills me to do this, but I have to 767 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 3: do it because you know, so I go there normally 768 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: every winter the twenty first to a twenty fifth, twenty six, 769 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: you know, so I spend always four days day in Madrid, 770 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, like because they love it, they got used 771 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: to it. I'll bring a lot of presents and you 772 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: know with the Christmas okay dinner on the twenty fourth, 773 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 3: and then I come back, you know, so I just 774 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 3: have to do it because you know, unless I bring 775 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: them here, which maybe next year we will do or something, 776 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: but you know, normally I have to go there, you know. 777 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like I got you know. That leads 778 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: me to a question that just popped into my head. 779 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: I think it's important to learn from you in in 780 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: the dynamics of your relationship. You guys created or plan 781 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: to create some sort of tradition or or things that, 782 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, creating something for your family that's different from 783 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: your personal family and her family because the dynamics are 784 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: so different. Right, are you creating a new tradition in 785 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: your future or are you just going with it? 786 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: I mean, for now, we are not creating anything. I 787 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: put some little steps into you know, the family are 788 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: created because you know, she has already kids, and I 789 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: cannot change things. But if we have a kid, it 790 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 3: will be you know, I think it will be different, 791 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: and I know actually it will be like how I 792 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 3: would you know, I would love to create a family, 793 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 3: which is you know a lot of traditions, a lot 794 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: of things. How I do all all my Spanish traditions, 795 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: let's say, yeah, because I mean it's just you know, 796 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: Caroline Sea got converted to Cis Jewish because he got 797 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: converted because of the Exhausman. So you know, it's just 798 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 3: very different, you know, both of us. To be honest, 799 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 3: that's why we have to go to Mauritius to get 800 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: married because you know, legally in the UA you cannot 801 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: get married, you know, because I was you know, a 802 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: Catholic and she was divorced us, so it was just 803 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: impossible to get married, you know. So we had to 804 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: go to Mauritius to get the paperwork and sign everything legally. 805 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: So we did a small wedding there, you know, in 806 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: the Four Seasons, and then we came back here and 807 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: did the big wedding. 808 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: And then you got married on the show. 809 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: Correct, we got matter on the show. Yes, Yes, we 810 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 3: got matter on the show, which was amazing actually it was. 811 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: It was so beautiful. I mean, it was just very fast. 812 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: Everything happened like quite intent. But it was amazing, to 813 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: be honest, it was like it was a dream. It 814 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: was honestly the best dream I couldn't imagine, you know, 815 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: because everything just came so perfectly. The hotel Raffles, the 816 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 3: Palm just open, which was one of the iconic hotels, 817 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 3: and it was just so new. Everything it was. It 818 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: was magical. You know. 819 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 2: Well that did you get married on the show too? 820 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: I did. 821 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: We had her three. 822 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: Id No, you got matter in the show as well. 823 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: Okay, well we had a separate show. We didn't actually 824 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: get married on the on the Real Housewive show. We 825 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: had a spin off. I think it was a three 826 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: series spin off. And the struggle initially was because of 827 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: my experience on the show. I didn't want to do 828 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: it on the show. I had no desire because it 829 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: was so about drama and toxic relationships and all that. 830 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: I said, I don't want anything to do with that. 831 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: But the way it turned out, they produced an amazing show. 832 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: It was the most beautiful wedding that you can imagine, 833 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: and everybody was I mean, there was a little bit 834 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: of drama that was relating to, you know, get this 835 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: done or what Yeah, what are you gonna choose? But 836 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't what the Real Housewife show is about, right, 837 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing like that. It really was magical. And 838 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: our plan was very much like yours, have the wedding, 839 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, for TV purposes, and then have a little 840 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: wedding on Laguna Beach with you know, our closest friends. 841 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: But the wedding was so beautiful and magical and it 842 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: felt so real that we didn't need to have a 843 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: second wedding, but it was. It was an amazing experience. Yeah, 844 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: it really was. 845 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: For example, because Caroline wanted to make up Ony in 846 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: the wedding. Caroline wanted the wedding because some things that 847 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 3: we started a lot of this because he's done everything 848 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: in life, right because he's he's almost fifty, so I 849 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: haven't done like so many things that he's done. So 850 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: she's like, look, I want to get married, you know, 851 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: in an eyland, no shoes. I'm like, honey, how I'm 852 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 3: going to have that? Like he's like ten people. I'm 853 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 3: like I cannot do that. I'm like, what all my 854 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: family everything? So we had a massified like crazy because 855 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, I have to do a proper wedding. I 856 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 3: have to have like a priest. I have to do 857 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 3: like a big thing, you know, because in her her 858 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 3: old wedding it was like a thousand people, you know, 859 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 3: in the biggest thing in Turkey, and I was like, look, 860 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: I have to have it. So then within Mauricius for 861 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 3: her kind of in an island, ten people, and then 862 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: we did you know raffles you know, in the in 863 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 3: Dubai for me basically, so that was just two combinations, 864 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: you know. 865 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's hilarious. That's such an opposite dynamic. It's 866 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: usually the woman that one huge. 867 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't know why. 868 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, in so many ways, I'm like 869 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: a king woman this relationship because it's just it's such 870 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 3: a it's such a man in so many ways. I'm like, 871 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: you know, there's no emotions, there's no feelings. It's like 872 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: a it's like a British rock, like there's nothing. And 873 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm the emotional one because I'm I'm the Latino one, 874 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: you know. So we're always like, you know, I love 875 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: I and go I can go like four days with 876 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 3: a given noticing I'm not there, and it's fine, like 877 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 3: it's just suppose he is, you know, like. 878 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Well we got 879 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: into the show. Tell us a little bit about how 880 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: that all happened. How did you did you know about 881 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives show before you you got cast or 882 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: how did that happen? 883 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no idea. 884 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 3: I mean, so Caroline City before in the UK, right City, 885 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 3: Ladies of London before, which was I think, you know, 886 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: a same production company and everything, same channel, but like 887 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 3: you know, in the UK. And then when sim moved 888 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: here the show, when I started to get to know 889 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: her a little bit, I didn't know anything about Housewives. 890 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: I didn't even know because in Spain we don't have that. 891 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's not like a thing now, no one 892 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: really watched I Andre, you know how big it was, 893 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 3: and you know everything that you know, it is involved. 894 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: And then when we started to get to kind of 895 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: like know each other, you know, we start talking and stuff. 896 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: And then when I ended up moving to Dubai, they 897 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: did like a few casts for her for Beverly Hills, 898 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 3: you know, and then at the end, you know, it 899 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 3: just they wanted to move the whole family, so it 900 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: never happened, and you know, it was to be complicated, 901 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 3: so then I think it's slowly just to buy housewives 902 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: just came because he was here, so then they kind 903 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 3: of build the whole you know, the whole cast and 904 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: everybody around her and stuff. But I didn't know anything. 905 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: I never you know, I did a few TV things 906 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 3: because you know, of soccer and things, but I never 907 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: really you know, I was never used to, you know, 908 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 3: having people in my house, you know, like you know, 909 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: just nine hours a day, film and everything. You know. Yeah, 910 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: And the problem as well is because I'm very real, 911 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: so you know, I cannot really lie. You know, It's 912 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 3: just who I am. So it was just a bit 913 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: difficult in the beginning. How I was gonna kind of like, 914 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, just be my I couldn't hide who I am. 915 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: So you know, that's why I think in the show, 916 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 3: you can see in the show is my personality, but 917 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 3: multiply by a thousand because they kind of edited that 918 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 3: way and stuff. But I you know, it's I'm very emotional. 919 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: It's just you know, it's who I am. You know, 920 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm like a told you boy, how you're portraying the show. 921 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, I play that funny, 922 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 3: that funny role, which is I mean, it's okay, they 923 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: want to play that way, which is fine, you know, 924 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 3: I take it, but you know, but uh, you know, 925 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 3: I didn't really know how it was about, to be honest. 926 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: That's interesting because I've always said that the control with 927 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: the editing is what makes the show right, and I 928 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: understand it. Obviously it's for entertainment purposes. But at the 929 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,479 Speaker 1: same time, this is your personality that they're messing with 930 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: and trying to create a character. So how do you 931 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: handle all the negative ship that comes with you know, 932 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: obviously the positive stuff, but the negative stuff is really 933 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: what concerns me. Because you can tell me I'm funny, 934 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: I'm good looking, I'm energetic, and I know that. But 935 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: when I get people that criticize me because my eyes 936 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: aren't blue, or my hair is now blonde, or I 937 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: don't have big enough muscles or whatever stupid you know comments, 938 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: how do you how do you deal with those? 939 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, luckily for me because coming from soccer, 940 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 3: soccer world is a very jealous, you know, it's a 941 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 3: very difficult world. So I always you know, have people 942 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 3: talking you know, me or my bag or things. So 943 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: I kind of build a little bit of that personality. 944 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 3: It's just you know, and I never had that many 945 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: people close to me, you know. So then with the 946 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 3: years and then also when I met Caroline, you know, 947 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 3: we you know, we made like so many news. It 948 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: was everywhere like toy boy. You know, they even called 949 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 3: me sex My name was sex slave. I was like, 950 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: oh my god, what is wrong with the I know, 951 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 3: my whole I didn't do anything in life, it was 952 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 3: the sex slave. And when when it's related to Spanish, 953 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 3: I understood what it was because I didn't read what 954 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 3: was that. I was like, oh my god, this is 955 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 3: cloud was exually it's the worst thing you can call 956 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 3: a human or oh god. So then you know, it 957 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 3: was just all these news came out. I was like, 958 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: you know, over relationship and things, and it was just 959 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 3: a bit you know, everything started there kind of, but 960 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: then I didn't really realize with the show what was 961 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 3: gonna come after, you know, because I mean they literally 962 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 3: called me everything. And also the edit, you know, it 963 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: didn't really help because it was portraying this image of 964 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 3: you know, I mean just like you know, how you 965 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 3: call it like he was my sugar mama. You know. 966 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 3: I was just literally just not doing anything during the day, 967 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 3: just here, doing here and not, you know, just looking 968 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: after her, you know. And you know, because I'm from 969 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 3: the South of Spain, I'm kind of funny, you know, 970 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 3: so I'm like, okay, I rolled with it. So I 971 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: was just playing that. But then they you know, in 972 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 3: the edit is kind of like multiplied by a thousand, 973 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, this is just the 974 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 3: worst thing. And then they were to take they were 975 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: taking all my comments and mixing it with the other stuff, 976 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, like you know, 977 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 3: so but I mean, you know, I I don't really 978 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: I never really care about what people think. And I 979 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 3: think that's something that I learned since I was little, 980 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 3: because if if I could have cared, like I would 981 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 3: never be where I am today with Caroline, you know, 982 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 3: because everybody told me what I was doing, you know, 983 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 3: all my close friends they were like, look, you are crazy, 984 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: you know, and Caroline is the same actually, by the way, 985 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 3: all her friends, you know, they were saying, look like 986 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 3: what are you gonna do, Like how are you going 987 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 3: to build a life with him? Like you know, he's 988 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: like twenty years younger than you like, and still so 989 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 3: many friends when we were going through everything, and I 990 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 3: think because both of us we are the same in 991 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: that way, we don't really care how people and everything. 992 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: So it was just you know, so it made us 993 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: kind of like together stronger, you know. But I mean, 994 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 3: imagine living in the Middle East, where we are probably 995 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 3: the only couple we had twenty years age cup, I'm 996 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 3: probably in the public eye, you know, because normally here 997 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 3: there is only like you know, normally it's older men 998 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 3: with younger women. You know, it's more like common there's 999 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: not really people like the other way around, and you 1000 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 3: know here it's just very very rare. It's not like 1001 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 3: living Los Angeles, you know, which is more common on 1002 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 3: you know, the US. 1003 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: You know. 1004 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: So it was just a very big big thing here, 1005 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 3: you know, to make it public, and you know, we're 1006 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 3: going everywhere and people kind of like we're looking, and 1007 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 3: you know, it was just a bit a bit difficult. 1008 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 3: But you know, the comments, I mean, we were just 1009 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 3: taking them, you know by this day by day and 1010 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 3: and I don't really remember any that really made me, 1011 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is crazy, because I mean they 1012 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 3: literally called me everything, They called me gay, they call me, 1013 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, toy boy, like everything in the planet you 1014 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 3: can call anyone. And I think I feel like i'm 1015 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 3: you know, I'm very secure with myself, so I don't 1016 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 3: I don't really need to get proof to anybody who 1017 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 3: I am, you know, in a way, I have to, 1018 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, I have to thank soccer, you know, and 1019 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 3: everything I went through, you know, suffering very early in 1020 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 3: my life, you know, you know, because he gave me 1021 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 3: the strength that I have today. 1022 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: Was there a part obviously, you know, to be as 1023 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 4: successful as you've been in soccer, and then obviously you know, 1024 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 4: getting your degree, and now with business, there's there's a 1025 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 4: little you got to have a little ego to be 1026 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 4: a little successful, right, you got to. 1027 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: Have a little ambition, right. 1028 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 4: So what happens when you know you've been successful on 1029 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 4: your own and now everybody's almost making it seem like 1030 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 4: you haven't done anything, and you're just you know, you 1031 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 4: found yourself a sugar mama. 1032 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: But you're like, wait a minute, I'm I'm pretty successful myself. 1033 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 2: That the ego that did it kind of like tell 1034 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1035 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 3: A little bit, I think, because you know, my whole 1036 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 3: life has been a bit like a roller coaster. So 1037 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: I went, you know, everything changed very early in my life. 1038 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,959 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what was happening. The other sign. 1039 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: I was training with the best soccer players in the world, 1040 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, and then all of a sudden, I, you know, 1041 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 3: my ego was up here. You know. I was not happy, 1042 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 3: and I was like, look at my star. You know, 1043 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't care what I broke the contract. So then 1044 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 3: from one day to another, I literally went like this, 1045 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: and then on the sign I went all the way up, 1046 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 3: you know. So I think because it's just being like 1047 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 3: a like that roller coaster, I'm very used to, you know, 1048 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 3: all the different stages, you know, so you know what 1049 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 3: I'm just saying was it would just say that it 1050 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: you know, perred percent. I mean honestly, you know, I 1051 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 3: believe in God, and I knew I know that God 1052 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 3: gave me and took out gave me all that that 1053 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 3: he gave me very early stage, because I mean I 1054 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 3: was driving all the you know how the fities I 1055 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: had all the cars when I was eighteen, you know, 1056 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: and I used to go to the train and everybody 1057 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 3: was screaming, signing, you know, because it was just it 1058 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 3: was a ramatic player. 1059 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 2: You know. 1060 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 3: It was not because it was me. It was just 1061 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where you play in first second thirteen, 1062 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 3: you were a Ramadi player. You were in the same office, 1063 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 3: so everybody went crazy for you, you know. So I 1064 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 3: just I got all that very early in my life. 1065 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 3: And then it really was like, you know, I believe 1066 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 3: you know, I became an assholt at some point and 1067 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 3: it was not who I was. Came that like Arrogan 1068 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 3: that you know that personal I did. I thought it 1069 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 3: was I was somebody, and I you know, it was 1070 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 3: the best thing that could happen to me. Just to 1071 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 3: kind of like take it away from me and give 1072 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 3: it to me a different way, because now I always say, 1073 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: nothing's gonna change. You give me now a hand million 1074 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: dollars literally nothing, because my life, you know, like I 1075 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 3: have everything I was in my life and I'm happy 1076 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 3: and content with who I am, and I it takes 1077 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 3: a long way to understand that, you know, and I 1078 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 3: know that because I went through all that before and 1079 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 3: I had it and it was gone. 1080 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: Do you think it would have been possible to not 1081 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: be arrogant and egotistical if you get to that level 1082 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: like you're in the top soccer team club in the world, 1083 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: you think it's possible not to experience that ego or 1084 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: that arrogance. It's you know, it's part of the package. 1085 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 3: I mean part of it's part of the package. Yeah, 1086 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: and you know, in soccer because for example, you know, 1087 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 3: I think the ego played a big part of me 1088 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 3: because as well, I was coming from a you know, 1089 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 3: from a good family. You know, I didn't really need soccer, 1090 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,479 Speaker 3: you know, to kind of like, you know, keep going 1091 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 3: with my life, right, and for example, I will never 1092 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 3: forget that at the age of fifteen, the coach sent 1093 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 3: me down and he said, look at your age. I 1094 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 3: had two options, which was the construction soccer, and I 1095 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 3: chose soccer. I see you that you have many different options, 1096 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 3: which I was doing modeling with Nike, I was, you know, 1097 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 3: doing so many things, and I was studying, you know, 1098 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 3: and I was doing soccer. And he said, because you 1099 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 3: have so many different options, you're not going to play 1100 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 3: any minute with me. And I was a sixteen years old. 1101 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 3: So then that guy made my life miserable. I was 1102 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 3: in drama Ria and I didn't play half of the 1103 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 3: season because of that. So I think all those you know, 1104 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 3: things that made me really you know, build up a 1105 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 3: very thick skin, you know. So I think when I 1106 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: made it and I was training with the first team, 1107 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: then you know, anywhere I was going outside the streets 1108 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, who are these people? 1109 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 3: And it was just completely wrong here on my mind. 1110 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 3: But I was thinking that automatically because you know, I 1111 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 3: think the fame and the success. You know, it's a 1112 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 3: very very difficult game, you know, and I would always 1113 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 3: be grateful for experience that very early and then kind 1114 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 3: of just take it away from me. 1115 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: You know, I think that brings you down to a 1116 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: normal human level, and. 1117 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 3: I will never honestly, when I came here, you know, 1118 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 3: I got a few offers to play football, you know, 1119 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 3: you know, and I just I didn't want to take it, 1120 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 3: to be honest, I had always signals just to not 1121 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 3: go into that. And you know, it was amazing what 1122 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 3: it gave me, because it gave me, you know, an 1123 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 3: amazing platform. He gave me all the connections I have. 1124 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 3: You know, I traveled the world I want literally everywhere, 1125 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 3: you know, but it also prepared me to where I 1126 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 3: am today. 1127 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: So do you still play soccer or do you not 1128 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: want to ever kick up all again. 1129 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually you know, because it was it was 1130 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: very difficult when I when I left Drama RI because 1131 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 3: you're used to this bobble and then you leave and 1132 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, nothing is the same. So 1133 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 3: then I left soccer for two years and then I 1134 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 3: kind of went back slowly. But you know, I mean, 1135 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 3: I I don't play. To be honest, I'm very close 1136 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 3: friends with some of the biggest stars that they actually 1137 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 3: my neighbors now, which is fantastic because I actually grew 1138 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: up watching them and now but literally my friends. And 1139 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, how crazy life is that? 1140 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 3: This is giving me everything I wanted on a different way, 1141 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: and I'm still involved somehow, but but I'm not involved. 1142 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 3: So it is fantastic, you know, see to see that. 1143 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 3: But I don't play. I don't play. You know, I 1144 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 3: don't play soccer anymore. 1145 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: How do you stay in shape? 1146 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 3: So I go to a gym, you know. And also 1147 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 3: because I over work out my body so much when 1148 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 3: I was little, you know that it has a very 1149 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 3: good memory. So then you know, I don't really need 1150 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 3: to do that much, to be honest. And for example, 1151 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 3: now if you if I want to look good for 1152 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 3: I don't know, for a trip or whatever, I work 1153 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 3: out maybe like a week, like intent, and that's it. 1154 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 3: But I normally play like, you know, padel a lot 1155 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,919 Speaker 3: of paddle, you know, go for runs once in a while. 1156 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 3: But I know, might do a gym, you know, I 1157 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 3: like the gym to disconnect. But it's yeah, it's more 1158 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 3: for I used to be addicted, to be honest, for 1159 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 3: like you know, yeah, for looks and like you know, 1160 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 3: like staying feet and this. It was just like an adiction. 1161 00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 3: Now I'm more relaxed on that. 1162 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 2: You know. 1163 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: Nice. Well, you got to enjoy that because I missed 1164 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: those days where I could just work out for a week. 1165 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 2: And right shape. 1166 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. 1167 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 3: Fifty Oh my god, you look amazing. You're fifty, you 1168 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 3: know you're fifty fifty one? 1169 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Edwin is actually eighty. Yeah, he's in great shape. 1170 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: You guys, You guys look amazing. To be honest, you 1171 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,439 Speaker 3: guys work out a loone. 1172 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 4: No, I often say, I work out for my sanity, 1173 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 4: not my vanity. 1174 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah it was twenty one. 1175 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 4: I worked out for my vanity indeed, But as you 1176 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 4: get older, it's really just for sanity. 1177 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 3: Now you know, it's you know, lasting that loone. You know, 1178 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm thirty, so I'm hoping it will last hour maybe 1179 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 3: five years maximum, you know. And also i'mzing a lot 1180 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 3: with Carolinzo. You know. 1181 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it started balancing out or going to tipping 1182 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: point for me. It was around forty six, and it 1183 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: was a heart, a heart issue that happened to me. 1184 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: I had aphe that totally threw a ranch into my 1185 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: whole system because all my life, you know, I consider 1186 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: myself sort of an athlete. Growing up like an athlete. 1187 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: I did sports in high school all my life. I 1188 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: wasn't professional, but what I learned, you know, the biggest 1189 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 1: lesson I learned in sports is pain is just part 1190 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: of the game, and if you can handle the pain 1191 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 1: longer than the competitor, you're going to be the winner. 1192 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: So I apply that to a lot of things in 1193 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: my life, including my physical and you know, I'm a 1194 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: cyclist at heart. That's my real sport. I love riding 1195 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: my road bike. And you know, I've gone miles one 1196 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: hundreds of miles and you know, heart rate averaging one 1197 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty hundred and seventy beats for minutes for hours, right, 1198 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: So it was just too much that I think contributed 1199 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: and among other things because I still don't really know 1200 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: what caused it, but diet, lifestyle and all that. I've 1201 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: never really been a drinker. I don't drink, you know. 1202 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 3: Much exactly same as me, to be honest, and I 1203 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 3: think that's that's the biggest thing why I stay in shame, 1204 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 3: because I don't drink. You know, I eat clean, but 1205 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 3: it's it's not even clean, it's my lifestyle, you know, 1206 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,399 Speaker 3: I know, I just just it healthy. And I think 1207 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 3: that really helps, you know. 1208 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's helped me tremendously. And right, I mean 1209 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: you can tell ed when you know it's looking great 1210 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: for his age. 1211 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 3: I don't drink. It's amazing. 1212 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's you know. I honestly, I'm like 1213 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: Edwin and you probably as well. We we just I 1214 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: know my body and when I put something in my 1215 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: body and I feel like shit, it's a it's just body. 1216 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: You don't do it pretty easy. 1217 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 3: It's quite difficult for us because we have you know, 1218 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 3: we're always here and the way everybody thinks we lived 1219 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: in holiday, you know, and everybody comes and it's just 1220 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 3: busy and busy and busying. So it's just back to 1221 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 3: back every day, you know, going out, and you know 1222 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 3: I suffer a little bit on the road inside of it. 1223 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's to stay you know, on track, but 1224 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 3: you know I try to kind of Yeah. 1225 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 2: Now, well, great, great interview, ser Joe. I. 1226 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 4: I specifically loved how you said, you know, it's interesting 1227 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 4: when you've experienced something before and you've kind of. 1228 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 2: Been there already and you kind of know what that 1229 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 2: gave you. 1230 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 4: It's like, I don't want to go back to that, right, 1231 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 4: And you're like, but this I haven't experienced before, and 1232 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 4: this I like even more. 1233 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:17,439 Speaker 2: Right. 1234 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 4: So I loved your answer on that, and I just 1235 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 4: loved everything we talked about today. 1236 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 2: So thank you for a great, great interview, and I 1237 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 2: hope to see you soon here in La Man. 1238 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1239 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 4: I had a big time to do with Vegas and 1240 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 4: your and your wife again stunner beautiful. And I also 1241 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 4: when I first met your wife, I had no idea 1242 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 4: her age. I would have thought she was, like I said, 1243 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 4: in her thirties. So well, well, well done. 1244 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: On the catch there too. 1245 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: But we'll close it with health this wealth. You know, 1246 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You can have all 1247 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: the money in the world, but being unhealthy, yeah, it's 1248 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: not worth it. So thank you so much Sergio for 1249 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,439 Speaker 1: spending the time. And you know, I know it's tough 1250 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: because you're on a different time zone, but it was really. 1251 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: Fun get able to know you actually, look, I'm in 1252 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 3: pajamas on the bottom down, so yeah, nice. 1253 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a California thing that you 1254 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: got in their pajamas out here. 1255 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 3: It's twelve twelve fifteen at night. 1256 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 2: Oh, time to start going out exactly. 1257 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: All the best to you and your wife. 1258 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 3: I thank you guys.