Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and Matt,
Speaker 1: and today we're discussing getting creative with vacation ideas. Joel Man,
Speaker 1: if there is ever a summer, if there's ever a
Speaker 1: time when folks are gonna get more creative when it
Speaker 1: comes to how they're spending their time off, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be now. Right with COVID with a pandemic altering how
Speaker 1: we live. It's you know, obviously not only affecting our
Speaker 1: ability to go to restaurants and going to the stores
Speaker 1: and stuff like that in school. So obviously, um, we're
Speaker 1: feeling that less now that school has been out, but
Speaker 1: like we went almost the entire spring without school being
Speaker 1: in session. But now we're also seeing how it's affecting
Speaker 1: our summer travels, how we vacation. And so I'm excited
Speaker 1: that we're talking about this topic here in the middle
Speaker 1: of summer to hopefully give our listeners some different idea,
Speaker 1: some some out of the box ways to think about
Speaker 1: how they should go about taking their time off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially like you said, because of COVID, it's gonna have
Speaker 1: to change how we take our time off. And we
Speaker 1: still think it's important for people to take time off,
Speaker 1: you know, and so we'll talk about that too. But yeah,
Speaker 1: before we get to that, Matt, I wanted to to
Speaker 1: let you know I had a rental property. One of
Speaker 1: my rental properties just recently come up. One of my
Speaker 1: tenants is buying a home just just for the Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love it when my tenants stay in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: It's kind of so fun. I see him around jogging
Speaker 1: or at a restaurant when we go to restaurants again someday.
Speaker 1: How far away are they moving from that house? So
Speaker 1: I think it's just just over a mile, not far. Okay,
Speaker 1: not bad, I've got your beat. I had to send
Speaker 1: it at one of our houses close by, and they
Speaker 1: moved literally four houses away. They purchased the house that
Speaker 1: was right around the corner from the rental, which totally
Speaker 1: the same thing, same sort of mentality. It made me
Speaker 1: so happy that they love the neighborhood so much. And
Speaker 1: of course they probably saw that house and knew about
Speaker 1: it because they're just out for a walk. I saw
Speaker 1: the sign in the front yard, like, oh, I can
Speaker 1: stay in the neighborhood. Known something. It makes me feel
Speaker 1: good about the house and about the neighborhood as well,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad just to see that they're still kind
Speaker 1: of in the neighborhood, you know, being a part of it,
Speaker 1: investing in the neighborhood to make Atlanta better. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: completely agree. But I had to go through the relisting
Speaker 1: process right and find some new tenants and a couple
Speaker 1: of things. One I got poison ivy while I was
Speaker 1: trying to do the weeding in the front yard. I
Speaker 1: still see the scabs on your arms. Dude, It's terrible.
Speaker 1: I'm so susceptible to poison ivy. I really got to
Speaker 1: stop digging around in the yard like that, or you
Speaker 1: just need to get better at recognizing it. Do or
Speaker 1: wearing long sleeves no matter what when I'm doing that stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get it so bad. It was ridiculous
Speaker 1: with some like chin on my arms on my legs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna watch out for that next time.
Speaker 1: But I also I learned something else besides the dangerous
Speaker 1: of playing in poison ivy. I learned that Zillo is
Speaker 1: now charging landlords to list their property. Yes they are.
Speaker 1: They're charging ten bucks per week every time you need
Speaker 1: to realist a property and up until this point in time,
Speaker 1: it's been free to list your property, and so I've
Speaker 1: constantly used Zillo. I've had a great experience. I always
Speaker 1: been able to find good tenants. They end up dispersing
Speaker 1: that listing to a bunch of other websites where where
Speaker 1: people look, including hot pads and Trulia, And so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm kind of frugal, right, maybe borderline cheap, And so
Speaker 1: I figured I would run an experiment. What if instead?
Speaker 1: I've heard people having good results from posting their rental
Speaker 1: property on Facebook yard sale, So I figured I'd give
Speaker 1: that a shot. I had plenty of time, I had
Speaker 1: a nice window of two months to find a new tenant,
Speaker 1: and so I held off on posting on Zillo and
Speaker 1: I just posted on Facebook yard sale and crickets. I
Speaker 1: didn't get anybody reaching interest, no interest at all, nobody
Speaker 1: inquiring about touring the home. So yeah, I let that
Speaker 1: run for a couple of weeks and got nobody. And
Speaker 1: so I realized, all right, I'm not to buy the bullet,
Speaker 1: pay the ten bucks for a week and hop on Zillo. Dude,
Speaker 1: instantaneous emails, It's like turning this picket on. It's completely
Speaker 1: worth the ten bucks. I had ten showings over basically
Speaker 1: essentially one morning and one person in an afternoon. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, over just two hours of showing them home,
Speaker 1: had all these people coming in found a great tenant.
Speaker 1: So for all the landlords out there who are trying
Speaker 1: to figure out where to list your properties, now that
Speaker 1: Zillo cost money, maybe Facebook yard Tale will work out
Speaker 1: for you. It didn't for me. I ended up having
Speaker 1: to pay the ten bucks. But ten bucks for a
Speaker 1: week when you're talking about finding a great tenant and
Speaker 1: being out there in front of as many potential tenants
Speaker 1: as possible, that's small potatoes. That's a price worth thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more than anything, I feel like what it does is
Speaker 1: it kind of removes from the clutter because the problem
Speaker 1: with Zillo and a lot of these listing services is
Speaker 1: that folks would just leave their properties up there and
Speaker 1: it just clutters the results. And so folks who are
Speaker 1: looking for properties, they're kind of spinning their wheels on
Speaker 1: chasing after these properties that aren't even available, or or
Speaker 1: ones that aren't actual listings. They're just I don't know
Speaker 1: why they're up there, but people leave listings up there's
Speaker 1: fake listings everywhere, But it cuts the clutter, you know,
Speaker 1: and so like I'm more than happy to pay ten
Speaker 1: bucks a week. I mean, like, what's two three weeks
Speaker 1: like thirty bucks? You know, like even two months eighty bucks?
Speaker 1: Eighty bucks is nothing to find a really qualit city
Speaker 1: tendant if that's how long it takes. And I really
Speaker 1: was able to do it in only weeks, so I
Speaker 1: only had to pay with ten bucks. So well, some
Speaker 1: unsolicited advice, if you've got that many inquiries in one day,
Speaker 1: maybe you need to like raise the price a little
Speaker 1: bit there. Well, I will say supply and demand, Tolmie.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. But out of all the responses
Speaker 1: I got and the ten people touring, only one person
Speaker 1: wanted to sign on the dotted line. So I think
Speaker 1: I did kind of hit the sweet spot, I think, so,
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, But I think I agree. Zillo
Speaker 1: is great because they push out their listenings to hot
Speaker 1: pads to truly as some of these other companies that
Speaker 1: they own, they all source from Zillo. And Zello is
Speaker 1: great too, man, because when you log into as a
Speaker 1: property manager, they save your account and so you just
Speaker 1: all you have to do is log back in, you
Speaker 1: reactivate that account, and so from a landlord perspective, it's
Speaker 1: great for that reason. At the other end of the
Speaker 1: spectrum of what we would not recommend you doing is Craigslist. Craigs.
Speaker 1: This is the worst, dude. Not only do you have
Speaker 1: to create that listing every single time, but I have
Speaker 1: never had a serious applicant uh for a property through Craigslist.
Speaker 1: And you're listing is always it ripped off on Craigslist,
Speaker 1: you know, like some scammer will uh will rip your photos,
Speaker 1: steal your copy, create a new listing for like five cheaper,
Speaker 1: and it will have have a different, different headline, so
Speaker 1: it's not easy to find. But I've had folks show
Speaker 1: up to the property before while I'm showing it to
Speaker 1: two folks who have contacted via the real listing, and
Speaker 1: they're like, Hey, is this the house for seven? I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, it's uh where did you see this?
Speaker 1: There's a huge problem with those scams listening. And I
Speaker 1: think Craigslist is charging for some listings now too, I
Speaker 1: think potentially even for rental properties. I know they are
Speaker 1: probably to clean up all their listings. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: know they are when you're when you're listing like a
Speaker 1: car for sale. So yeah, that's another thing. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay money, your money is better spent on a
Speaker 1: service where everybody's flocking, you know that you're actually gonna
Speaker 1: find the most potential tenants. Definitely. Yeah, heads up for
Speaker 1: all the landlords out there. All right, let's mention the
Speaker 1: beer that we're having on this show today. We're drinking
Speaker 1: a beer called Finnizy Swamp Thing by Savannah River Brewing Company.
Speaker 1: This was sent to us by listener Jeff and Matt.
Speaker 1: This beer comes out of your hometown of Augusta, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Another one from Savannah Brewing Company. Yeah, so this one's
Speaker 1: called Finnizy Swamp Thing, Fantasy Fantasy, that's how we say it. Well, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned right before we we started recording that that's
Speaker 1: a local swamp and Augusta. Have you been there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a swamp. And you know what's funny is
Speaker 1: that I know that name because there are some kids
Speaker 1: in my high school and they named their band Fantasy.
Speaker 1: What's a good name. Yeah, pretty good name. I think
Speaker 1: they're kind of going with a jam band kind of feel.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, emo, Oh yeah, we weren't quite
Speaker 1: in that emo era just yet. But no, I actually
Speaker 1: have never been to that swamp before. And I was
Speaker 1: looking at some pictures online, and we're planning a trip
Speaker 1: to Augusta pretty soon here, and that might be another fun,
Speaker 1: little little day trip, you know, other than visiting family,
Speaker 1: of course, but getting out and seeing a cool local destination,
Speaker 1: like a like a cool swamp like that. That might
Speaker 1: sound boring to some folks, but mayeah, let's right up
Speaker 1: my alley. So wherever you go all the swamps. I
Speaker 1: got a little swamp checklist. You would have visit all
Speaker 1: the swamps in off Ffty states. I wouldn't put it
Speaker 1: a past youre alright. But Matt actually brings us perfectly
Speaker 1: to the topic that we're going to discuss on the
Speaker 1: show today, getting creative with vacation ideas. And obviously COVID
Speaker 1: has changed summer planes for so many people, and it's
Speaker 1: time to get creative if you have hopes of having
Speaker 1: a decent little vacation. Uh, so many people have had
Speaker 1: their previously planned vacation canceled all together. Right, my neighbors,
Speaker 1: they were supposed to go to Italy to celebrate their
Speaker 1: fifteenth anniversary in early April Italy. That of course didn't
Speaker 1: pan out. Yeah, that's when things were the worst, especially Italy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and then we go to Italy and the hit
Speaker 1: up Spain. Oh not the time for that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we had travel experts. Scott kais on a recent episode
Speaker 1: to discuss refunds and the safety of air travel. But
Speaker 1: getting on an airplane to travel while actually being decently
Speaker 1: safe still isn't something many people want to do. So
Speaker 1: we're going to explore some creative options for summer travel
Speaker 1: that will be fun and also super affordable. That's what
Speaker 1: we're going to get into today. Yeah. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the CEO of Airbnb, you know, he said that travel
Speaker 1: will never be the same again, that it'll never get
Speaker 1: back to the way that it was pre COVID, And
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate what he's saying, although I'm not
Speaker 1: completely convinced that he's right. Uh. He also mentioned how
Speaker 1: more people aren't getting on planes and flying to you know,
Speaker 1: the different touristy cities, but instead are getting in their
Speaker 1: cars and driving too smaller cities and outdoor destinations. This
Speaker 1: is one trend that I hope really sticks, because like,
Speaker 1: this is the type of travel that really resonates with me.
Speaker 1: But either way, you might already have a week off
Speaker 1: from work that you have planned, and it's important to
Speaker 1: still take that time off. Like we mentioned earlier, even
Speaker 1: if your plans may have changed due to COVID, don't
Speaker 1: abandon that vacation altogether. Instead, we would recommend you to
Speaker 1: get creative. Yeah, man, we we recently talked about avoiding
Speaker 1: burnout and how close to half of stressed out employees
Speaker 1: avoid taking time off of work in order to kind
Speaker 1: of be seen as a quote unquote work martyr. But
Speaker 1: the studies show that this is actually a bad thing, right,
Speaker 1: and it tends to lead more towards occupational burnout and
Speaker 1: potentially even clinical depression not taking time off from work,
Speaker 1: especially considering the incredibly stress environment COVID is created for
Speaker 1: so many people, so many individuals, so many families too.
Speaker 1: It's a recipe for higher stress levels and lower levels
Speaker 1: of productivity. So really we need breaks, and in particularly
Speaker 1: in a high stress season, we need breaks even more
Speaker 1: than we typically do. So I think for foregoing a
Speaker 1: vacation in is an even worse idea than it typically is. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And so, you know, what does
Speaker 1: it look like? To think creatively when your travel plans
Speaker 1: abroad are canceled. Some folks may not feel comfortable getting
Speaker 1: out of town and going on vacations. So what we
Speaker 1: would recommend for folks to do is to start with
Speaker 1: small ways to to make their summer and their time
Speaker 1: off feel a bit more special. Think through some new
Speaker 1: traditions or special treats that you wouldn't normally you know, participated,
Speaker 1: or that you wouldn't normally buy. So, for example, U
Speaker 1: there are several neighbors nearby that have purchased these outdoor
Speaker 1: movie screens. Basically, it's like this giant white screen and
Speaker 1: you know, you're able to project a movie or you know,
Speaker 1: project TV on there. I'm not even kidding. Two houses
Speaker 1: down on one side of me, uh, they've got one
Speaker 1: set up. Four houses down on the other side they've
Speaker 1: got one set up as well, and you can kind
Speaker 1: of hear the movie at night. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: But I don't think these are things that our neighbors
Speaker 1: would have done if it weren't for COVID, right, Like, instead,
Speaker 1: they would normally be off traveling somewhere, but instead they're
Speaker 1: looking to find ways to make home a little more fun.
Speaker 1: Because they know they're they're kind of stuck at home
Speaker 1: a little bit, at least for the time being. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my coworker Kim, bought some sort of projector that is
Speaker 1: about the size of this beer can actually, and she
Speaker 1: said it's great. They're watching movies outside all the time.
Speaker 1: She's got this decent sized above ground pool. They'll hang
Speaker 1: out in the pool and watch a movie night, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is pretty great. So, yeah, those are the kind
Speaker 1: of things right the outside of the box thinking that
Speaker 1: it really takes to make sure you're able to create
Speaker 1: some fun memories. This summer, Matt, we bought like this
Speaker 1: inflatable pool that we sit in the front yard and
Speaker 1: I've I've played in it, I know you have. And
Speaker 1: we've got a slide and the girls just pour water
Speaker 1: down it. I've slid down it, and it's just so fun.
Speaker 1: We break out the beach chairs, we pop open the umbrella.
Speaker 1: We kind of make it feel like we went to
Speaker 1: a destination. It costs almost no money, and we get
Speaker 1: so much use out of something like that. Just every
Speaker 1: time we set it up. We're playing it for you know,
Speaker 1: three or four days in a row, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of become this mainstay, right, This staycation fun creative way
Speaker 1: to to enjoy summer together when we're just not going
Speaker 1: nearly as many places. Yeah, Plus we've gotten so much
Speaker 1: rain lately. I bet that thing's overflowing if you just
Speaker 1: leave it out for a little bit and gets that
Speaker 1: fresh water in there, the fresh rain of brain water.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's an example I feel like of you're
Speaker 1: sticking to the same location, but you're you're basically changing
Speaker 1: your mindset, You're changing how you're viewing your time at home,
Speaker 1: and that's got to be probably the most affordable way
Speaker 1: to make it feel like vacation even though you're not
Speaker 1: really going anywhere and you do. Another option too, is
Speaker 1: like just the technology that we have at our fingertips. Right.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about, you know, going down to Google
Speaker 1: Rabbit trail of of dumb stuff, but like different local
Speaker 1: companies are hosting free guided tours of city landmarks. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Museum of Natural History they're doing Facebook Live. There
Speaker 1: are different virtual VECSE and guided experiences EA tourism that
Speaker 1: folks are doing, you know. Or if you want even
Speaker 1: more skin in the game, you can even look into
Speaker 1: getting something like a masterclass membership. I was looking on
Speaker 1: there and you can learn how to do some Texas
Speaker 1: style barbecue from Aaron Franklin. You've heard of Franklin's barbecue.
Speaker 1: He's the master. I want to go to Franklin so bad.
Speaker 1: But like, there's some big time folks on their Natalie
Speaker 1: Portman's doing acting has a whole course on acting. I
Speaker 1: saw Danny Elfman that kind of dove into it a
Speaker 1: little more. Danny Elfman, have you heard of him? He's
Speaker 1: a composer. I know the name. You know him because
Speaker 1: he does a lot of the soundtracks for Tim Burton movies.
Speaker 1: So how cool would it be to sit through a course,
Speaker 1: you know of all these classes where he just dives
Speaker 1: into you know, what goes into his process and how
Speaker 1: you can kind of think through that. Super fascinating. I
Speaker 1: find that really interesting. Yeah, that's that sounds awesome. Man.
Speaker 1: That sounds like kind of a fun thing to participate
Speaker 1: in to check out. Plus, I want you to level
Speaker 1: up your your your meat smoking game out there on
Speaker 1: the front port I gotta get better at that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I'm hitting like doubles right now,
Speaker 1: but I want to hit a home run at some point.
Speaker 1: You can do that with Aaron Franklin. But most of
Speaker 1: us are probably sick of sitting in front of our
Speaker 1: screens on zoom calls. So so maybe learning about stuff
Speaker 1: online it's probably not what you have in mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: virtual vacation isn't something that sounds appealing to me at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not idea. I don't want to do that. Right,
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll think a master class, but that's that's not
Speaker 1: my idea of a creative vacation idea. Right, So, if
Speaker 1: you are looking to take some time off, you'll likely
Speaker 1: want to get out of the house some So you're
Speaker 1: gonna need to look to getting creative exploring locally. And
Speaker 1: so later on we're gonna talk about taking a bigger
Speaker 1: trip and what that might look like. But first let's
Speaker 1: get into kind of stay cations and how you can
Speaker 1: maximize your off time, your downtime near where you actually live.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that right after the break. All right, man,
Speaker 1: we are back from the break, and we're talking essentially
Speaker 1: right now about stay cations. Right, we're talking about getting
Speaker 1: creative with your summer vacation ideas. Uh, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about starting basically hyper local, right, one of the
Speaker 1: best things that we've been able to discover is how
Speaker 1: many great destinations that we have that are within our
Speaker 1: neighborhoo in our part of Atlanta. You know, we've always enjoyed, uh,
Speaker 1: this little local quote unquote farm that we can easily
Speaker 1: walk to. It's actually between your house and my house.
Speaker 1: But when you can't or you don't want to visit
Speaker 1: a more typical destination that might be a bit crowded,
Speaker 1: having spots like this to explore, Man, they are amazing
Speaker 1: and they've really been priceless during this difficult times, during
Speaker 1: this pandemic. Yeah, we've enjoyed hitting up some spots that
Speaker 1: we normally hit up, but at the same time, we've
Speaker 1: kind of challenged ourselves to get even more creative and
Speaker 1: to explore locally places that we we haven't even thought
Speaker 1: to look at yet. And we've uncovered some hidden gems
Speaker 1: right that we basically we missed until COVID hit and
Speaker 1: we found the need to to think more outside of
Speaker 1: the box and do some more digging into places that
Speaker 1: we could go to have some fun. And I kind
Speaker 1: of had like this small list going of nearby places
Speaker 1: that I wanted to explore, and because of COVID. It's
Speaker 1: gotten longer and longer as I've heard from from more people,
Speaker 1: cool things to do, you know, around town, and we've
Speaker 1: actually been able to put some of a dent in it.
Speaker 1: Because of social distancing and and our normal calendar being
Speaker 1: completely upended, we've been able to enjoy some really cool
Speaker 1: spots around Georgia and in particular around Atlanta that we
Speaker 1: otherwise like just probably would have avoided or wouldn't have
Speaker 1: thought about. Yeah, man, you know, COVID it's forced us
Speaker 1: out of sort of like our typical routines, right, like
Speaker 1: the routines and the ruts that we often find ourselves in. Uh.
Speaker 1: For example, if it wasn't for COVID, like we wouldn't
Speaker 1: know about this this tiny little nature preserve where like
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of wildlife, there's beavers, all sorts of
Speaker 1: other birds that you don't normally see like find around
Speaker 1: the houses. Um, and you can also go there and
Speaker 1: you can pick blackberries and figs. Man, it's amazing. But
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're listening to this and like that's
Speaker 1: not something that you have, and so for you, maybe
Speaker 1: that's just getting out and exploring a local park in
Speaker 1: your neighborhood, but just challenging yourself to to look beyond
Speaker 1: what you would normally do because that's essentially what you've
Speaker 1: always done, or you know, that's what all the other
Speaker 1: families in the neighborhood do, or that's what your friends do.
Speaker 1: I do feel like this is one rare bright spot
Speaker 1: of COVID is that it's forced us out of our
Speaker 1: normal routines. Yeah, for so many people, it's just opened
Speaker 1: their eyes into how much stuff is really in dobly
Speaker 1: local to where they are, how many experiences that are
Speaker 1: free or cheap that they can easily partake in and
Speaker 1: that they don't have to travel very far to enjoy.
Speaker 1: I know that's been the case for us, Like there
Speaker 1: are so many things so we've been able to find
Speaker 1: out about and enjoy in large part because we've been
Speaker 1: forced to and so and that's been kind of Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. One of the one of the highlights, one
Speaker 1: of the perks. Yeah, one more I'm thinking of two
Speaker 1: is that like we were going to go together as
Speaker 1: a family to the state park, which is maybe for
Speaker 1: some folks kind of like, uh, not an ordinary thing
Speaker 1: to do, but for us we love state parks. But
Speaker 1: we got there and it was closed. This is like
Speaker 1: early on during COVID when everything was shut down. All
Speaker 1: the state parks were closed in Georgia. And even that
Speaker 1: allowed us to kind of look outside what we normally do,
Speaker 1: which is instead of going to like a state park,
Speaker 1: we kind of went to this park that we've always
Speaker 1: kind of seen from the road. Uh it's on Pons Daily,
Speaker 1: on like one of the major roads in Atlanta, and dude,
Speaker 1: it's one of our favorite parks. Now. It's got like
Speaker 1: bridges and creeks and these huge, massive trees that have
Speaker 1: fallen across the creek that the girls are able to
Speaker 1: walk across on. There's like this giant field for dogs
Speaker 1: to run around in if you've got a dog. But like,
Speaker 1: even that was able to allow us to kind of
Speaker 1: look outside what we would normally do and kind of
Speaker 1: expand our horizons a little bit. And now we've got
Speaker 1: this favorite park that's even closer than some of these
Speaker 1: other bigger state parks. Yeah. That's awesome, man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely want to recommend people consider hyper local things
Speaker 1: nearby where you are, but also to you know, some
Speaker 1: people will want to explore even further, and in particular
Speaker 1: to take a vacation, right sometimes it feels like you've
Speaker 1: got to get out of town in order to be
Speaker 1: able to enjoy that. And maybe you just don't have
Speaker 1: as many cool spots near where you live, and so
Speaker 1: you feel an even greater need to hop in the car.
Speaker 1: And you know what, driving is actually looking pretty attractive
Speaker 1: these days for a couple of reasons. One, gas prices, right,
Speaker 1: gas prices are so cheap right now. Obviously air fare
Speaker 1: has been pretty cheap right now too, especially for domestic travel.
Speaker 1: But of course there are obvious reasons to potentially avoid
Speaker 1: airplanes right now. But gas prices being inexpensive means that
Speaker 1: taking a trip likely won't cost you all that much,
Speaker 1: at least in fuel expenses. Right So, on average, the
Speaker 1: price of gasoline per gallon is close to what it
Speaker 1: was in two thousand five right now, Matt haven't been
Speaker 1: this low and fifteen years. Man, it's pretty incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So for people looking to get out on the road,
Speaker 1: I think the ultra low gas prices should be that
Speaker 1: extra kick in the pants to kind of make that
Speaker 1: trip happen. Yeah. Plus, the more folks that you load
Speaker 1: up in your car, right, like your different family members,
Speaker 1: like each time you have to buy a plane takeet
Speaker 1: per family member, it costs you more, but good point.
Speaker 1: Every kid that you add to your vehicle, or every
Speaker 1: friend who you add to your trip, who you know
Speaker 1: has taken the proper health precautions like that just brings
Speaker 1: that overall cost down. And I love that. Basically, the
Speaker 1: more the merrier, right, and the cheaper, but all the
Speaker 1: note of health. You can easily social distance well in
Speaker 1: a car with your family, you know, or some of
Speaker 1: those close friends. Each individual is going to feel a
Speaker 1: little bit differently when it comes to you know, mass transit,
Speaker 1: right getting on a bus, a train, or you know,
Speaker 1: an airplane with a bunch of strangers. But when you're
Speaker 1: taking a car, you can avoid that stress all together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know what, there's testing available now, Matt, for
Speaker 1: it's getting more widespread man, right, and so you can
Speaker 1: get tested before you want a trip, if you want
Speaker 1: to go with a friend, you can both get tested
Speaker 1: and that just kind of broadens the appeal of that
Speaker 1: road trip, whether you're doing with just your family or
Speaker 1: you're doing it with as friends. It's nice that that's
Speaker 1: a possibility that creates that option for people where they
Speaker 1: might have otherwise been uncomfortable with it. So, in regards
Speaker 1: to driving, you could certainly go on a super long
Speaker 1: trip across the country, but you could also do things
Speaker 1: that are mostly local and I have to go too
Speaker 1: terribly far. And that means probably doing something in your state,
Speaker 1: in another location, or in a neighboring state, anything within
Speaker 1: let's say a two or three hour drive at day trips. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so Matt, we recently got to check out a
Speaker 1: new to US state park and it had this kind
Speaker 1: of cool lake beach going on. And so now my
Speaker 1: wife Emily, she's gotten a little obsessed with hitting up
Speaker 1: as many lake beaches as we possibly can. But she like,
Speaker 1: we don't need to go to the ocean, we don't
Speaker 1: need to go to a real beach. We got lake
Speaker 1: beaches here in Georgia exactly. Yeah, So it's kind of
Speaker 1: like our family goal for the summer is to to
Speaker 1: hit up as many of those as we possibly can have.
Speaker 1: Have you all been to a fort yargo? Have you
Speaker 1: heard of that one? No? Is that I put that
Speaker 1: on my list? Oh dude, yeah, I hear. That's a
Speaker 1: really good one. Actually, I think it's maybe like forty
Speaker 1: five minutes or an hour from like the center of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But I hear that that's a really good one. That's
Speaker 1: that's where that's on our list at least. Uh And
Speaker 1: we're not even like beach initiated yet, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys would love it, all right, Well, I'm putting
Speaker 1: that on our short list, that's for sure, And so yeah,
Speaker 1: we're planning on hitting up as many of those as possible.
Speaker 1: We're also planning to go on bike rides at this
Speaker 1: place just south of the city Matt called Callaway Gardens,
Speaker 1: And I totally remember going as a kid with my family,
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to take my kids. So there
Speaker 1: are these things right that are local ish, basically their
Speaker 1: day trip material, and it's stuff that had just kind
Speaker 1: of been off my radar for a long time, but
Speaker 1: now it just feels like day trip kind of stuff
Speaker 1: makes so much sense for our vacation time, and so
Speaker 1: we're going to prioritize that on the weekends and on
Speaker 1: some of the days off that we have. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's cool man that one of the unexpected
Speaker 1: consequences of COVID is that I think it's allowed a
Speaker 1: lot of individuals to be more intentional with their time,
Speaker 1: and if it weren't for the pandemic, like, maybe we
Speaker 1: would be spending our time differently right if we had
Speaker 1: some of the more typical options available to us. But
Speaker 1: because we don't, it is causing us to kind of
Speaker 1: look outside what we'd normally do. And you know, when
Speaker 1: it comes to staying local, the additional bonus of staying
Speaker 1: local right now is that you're also supporting your local
Speaker 1: economy during time that they might really need it. You
Speaker 1: know that that five dollar parking fee at a state
Speaker 1: park that supports their upkeep, and then grabbing a takeout
Speaker 1: lunch maybe while you're nearby, Like that's helpful to local
Speaker 1: restaurants as well. I'll say that sometimes some of these
Speaker 1: parking fees they're kind of on the honor system where
Speaker 1: there's like a box and you you're supposed to stick
Speaker 1: you know, like a five dollar bill in there or
Speaker 1: something like that. Uh. And I'm gonna say this is
Speaker 1: coming from to frugal, borderline cheap dudes, but may pay
Speaker 1: that money. You might be attempted to not to do that,
Speaker 1: but but realize that money is going towards the upkeep
Speaker 1: of these nice parks Yeah, that's cheap not to put
Speaker 1: the five bucks in the box, that's for sure. And man,
Speaker 1: I think too, it's important to mention for for folks
Speaker 1: out there who are like I don't know where to go,
Speaker 1: whether it's hyperlocal or whether it's even further out local,
Speaker 1: you know, in in a two to three hour day
Speaker 1: trips sort of range. And I think it's important to
Speaker 1: ask for recommendations. I mean, you literally just gave me one,
Speaker 1: and so uh fort Yargo is on our list now.
Speaker 1: But for folks who don't know where to go, ask
Speaker 1: your friends, right, ask your neighbors see where they're kind
Speaker 1: of going and where and what day trips have been
Speaker 1: successful for their family. Do some googling. Also, check trip advisor.
Speaker 1: Right you'll find great tips of all stereo towards awesome
Speaker 1: places to visit that you might not even considered. Right.
Speaker 1: Trip Advisor actually recommends highly Oakland Cemetery in Atlanta, which
Speaker 1: is really close to where we live. We know about
Speaker 1: it because it's right around the corner. But I guarantee
Speaker 1: you ninety percent of Atlantains have never read right, and
Speaker 1: so it's time to make it happen. Finding that on
Speaker 1: trip Advisor, it's like, oh, that's a really awesome free
Speaker 1: place to go that isn't all that far away from me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, finding those recommendations, whether it's online or from
Speaker 1: people in your community, is going to be super helpful
Speaker 1: in helping you kind of develop an itinerary and a
Speaker 1: schedule of places that you want to visit. Yeah. What's
Speaker 1: funny about trip Advisor and some of these different online
Speaker 1: resources is that we do this all the time when
Speaker 1: we are planning a trip to somewhere else, right, But
Speaker 1: when you list somewhere, you never really look at those recommendations.
Speaker 1: You never check out trip Advisor for your own city.
Speaker 1: But why not. There's a lot of places like that that,
Speaker 1: Like you said, I bet of city inhabitants haven't been
Speaker 1: to some of these top rated destinations and locations. Uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's that's definitely something. I mean, I hardly
Speaker 1: ever do that myself since so this is a good
Speaker 1: challenge for myself as well. Yeah, for sure. And then
Speaker 1: you know, maybe what about maybe a more unique experience.
Speaker 1: Driving movies are pretty awesome. We've got this old school
Speaker 1: drive in movie theater, uh not too far from where
Speaker 1: we live. But most people they don't have that, well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Walmart, they are creating driving movie theaters
Speaker 1: in a hundred and sixty parking lot locations around the
Speaker 1: country from August through October. I thought that was super
Speaker 1: cool that they are taking advantage of. Basically, you know,
Speaker 1: they already have the driving movie theater set up, which
Speaker 1: is just a big asphalt parking lot where people can
Speaker 1: easily get in and get out. All they need to
Speaker 1: do is set up a screen. You know, why not
Speaker 1: driving movies? Man, there's so much fun. I haven't been
Speaker 1: to one in a while, mostly because I have kids
Speaker 1: and we can't stay up that late. But they are
Speaker 1: a blast, and so I think for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: especially if you have older kids, go into one of
Speaker 1: these drive in movies at a Walmart parking lot could
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun for your fam. But if
Speaker 1: you want to go further and see some new terrain, well,
Speaker 1: Matt and I will discuss some creative and affordable options
Speaker 1: for embarking on a bigger trip this summer, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to some of those right after the break. All right, Joel,
Speaker 1: we are back from the break, and we're talking about
Speaker 1: fun and different creative things that you can do. Uh
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't normally do in order to kind of
Speaker 1: get away, take time off vacation a little bit. Do
Speaker 1: you remember when you and I we went fly fishing.
Speaker 1: A buddy of ours took us fly fishing. It was
Speaker 1: in like the middle of winter. We're up in the mountains.
Speaker 1: It was crazy cold, and what I remember most is
Speaker 1: that we didn't catch a single fish. We didn't. I
Speaker 1: will say, you know, I've always loved the movie and
Speaker 1: the book A River runs through it, and I have
Speaker 1: kind of these ideals of what it would look like
Speaker 1: to go fly fishing. It didn't live up to it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that at all. We weren't up in Montana.
Speaker 1: It wasn't this you know, beautiful Do you call it
Speaker 1: idyllic scene? We weren't like casting super fancy like Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt does in the movie shadow casting. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna call it ghost casting shadow casting.
Speaker 1: But you know, regardless, if you're staying local or going
Speaker 1: on a bigger trip, like we can't recommend getting outdoors enough.
Speaker 1: You know, that could be as simple as checking out
Speaker 1: a local trail or swimming hole, maybe a beach that's
Speaker 1: not overly crowded. Uh, you know, or a trip to
Speaker 1: a national park. There are so many benefits of getting outside,
Speaker 1: moving your body, right, it's affordable, oftentimes you're getting good exercise.
Speaker 1: But also you know, this is going to be a
Speaker 1: great way to help reduce the spread of COVID. Open
Speaker 1: air situations, as we now know, are much safer places
Speaker 1: to be, so, you know, outdoor parks and hiking they
Speaker 1: are the perfect activity. Yeah, man, I agree. I think
Speaker 1: seeing our country is is a great way to go,
Speaker 1: especially in recent years as international travel prices have just
Speaker 1: come down in a major way. So many people have
Speaker 1: thought about their vacations as as going overseas, taking a
Speaker 1: flight somewhere else, and many of us have forgotten to
Speaker 1: even consider traveling domestically. But there are so many awesome,
Speaker 1: beautiful places to visit in our own country, and so
Speaker 1: there's so much history natural beauty that we can access
Speaker 1: without even hopping on a plane. We can drive there,
Speaker 1: and in all likelihood you can do this in the
Speaker 1: car you already own, right that. The national park system,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned matt Is, is a pretty great you
Speaker 1: can get in for free. By the way, if your
Speaker 1: family has a fourth grader. I know you and I
Speaker 1: were planning on doing that every year we can with
Speaker 1: our children as they are in fourth grade. All of
Speaker 1: our kids reach fourth grade, Yeah, we get to go
Speaker 1: on all these even we're not even gonna save that
Speaker 1: much money, right, it's eighty five bucks. It's not that
Speaker 1: much money, but it's just that idea of being able
Speaker 1: to do it for free instead of paying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna avoid the National parks because it costs
Speaker 1: eighty five bucks for the annual past but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: when you think about it like that, how many National
Speaker 1: parks can you hit up in a year for eighty
Speaker 1: five bucks? Probably a lot. You're definitely gonna get your
Speaker 1: money's worth it, even if you only hit up two
Speaker 1: or three. But how many more would you hit up
Speaker 1: if you could see all of them for absolutely free?
Speaker 1: So no, I know that'd that'd be nice, right, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for our second graders to become fourth graders.
Speaker 1: But if that sounds awesome, But you want more space
Speaker 1: than just your car, and you don't want to have
Speaker 1: to deal with hotels or renting a home because of
Speaker 1: potential health concerns, which I understand, you might want to
Speaker 1: consider getting away in an RV Matt. RVs have become
Speaker 1: so popular lately, especially because of the pandemic. People want
Speaker 1: kind of their own quarters to travel in. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: the idea with the r V is you could basically
Speaker 1: bring your hotel room with you, right, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and obviously this lessons the risk of getting sick. And
Speaker 1: you could, you know, buy something off Craigslist or you know,
Speaker 1: Facebook yard sale. But RVs have become incredibly popular during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, so you might be looking at slim pickings
Speaker 1: and pretty high prices too, So you could instead short
Speaker 1: term rent one on a site like Outdoorsy or r
Speaker 1: v share dot com, or even maybe talk to a
Speaker 1: friend who's recently bought one. I'm thinking of some friends
Speaker 1: of ours who live out in the Bourbs and I
Speaker 1: noticed online that they recently purchased one. I'm not thinking
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be using it every single week this summer,
Speaker 1: and so maybe the conversation would go something like, Hey,
Speaker 1: how about we push you guys a couple in your
Speaker 1: bucks And I gotta think that they might be down
Speaker 1: for that to help offset the cost of that thing. Right,
Speaker 1: And so, whether you decide to explore in an RV
Speaker 1: for a few days, you know, or even a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Renting went up, at least at first, we think that
Speaker 1: would be the best answer to make sure that that
Speaker 1: is going to fit with how you want to travel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the RV lifestyle is not for everybody, and if you
Speaker 1: buy one and realize it's not for you, you're gonna
Speaker 1: take a huge hit on the resale. So yeah, renting one,
Speaker 1: trying it out first, borrowing one, or renting one from
Speaker 1: a friend, that's a good idea to Matt. Yeah, have
Speaker 1: you actually ever traveled in then RV. No, it sounds
Speaker 1: nice to me, but I've never actually done it, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would definitely want to make sure I
Speaker 1: was running one because I could also see myself potentially
Speaker 1: hating it. So Ever, since road Rules came out back
Speaker 1: in the day on MTV, it's always looked like this
Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever to do, but also that there
Speaker 1: would be a lot of dramas. It depends right who
Speaker 1: you're staying within the RV. If it's with a bunch
Speaker 1: of adolescents, I mean, there's probably gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of drama, But if you're with your family, it might
Speaker 1: be a little chiller. Yeah, Yeah, the only making out
Speaker 1: that's gonna be happening is just me my wife. Uh
Speaker 1: So that's one option, right is running the RV. Also camping,
Speaker 1: Right if you're driving your car with the camping equipment
Speaker 1: in the back, it's definitely one of the most affordable
Speaker 1: routes you can go, and bringing the tent and sleeping
Speaker 1: bags with you. Camping is even cheaper than running an
Speaker 1: r V or getting a hote l room. Plus you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fun if you do it right, and it's
Speaker 1: an even better way to connect with nature in the outdoors,
Speaker 1: and the rest of getting COVID is even lower matter.
Speaker 1: I mean, so many people are concerned about hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: I from everything I've read, I don't feel terribly concerned.
Speaker 1: I think you definitely have some questions you need to
Speaker 1: ask of management, and there are some precautions you need
Speaker 1: to take. But still so many people just want to
Speaker 1: forgo it altogether, which makes sense, and camping is just
Speaker 1: like an awesome way to go if you want to
Speaker 1: avoid that. Yeah. Literally, there's different scales out there that rank,
Speaker 1: you know, the risk of catching COVID With the different
Speaker 1: activities that you can participate in and camping, I think
Speaker 1: it's like number two. Like literally, the only thing that's
Speaker 1: less risky is checking your mail, which isn't fun at all,
Speaker 1: Like that sounds nothing like a vacation physically checking your mail,
Speaker 1: but camping, like literally, it's it's one of the lowest
Speaker 1: risk activities that you can do. And by the way,
Speaker 1: like one of the highest things you can do is
Speaker 1: like go to a bar. So don't go to bars
Speaker 1: where you have to like yell at people in order
Speaker 1: to be heard and people are taking their masks off
Speaker 1: to drink. And such a terrible idea. Going clubbing right now?
Speaker 1: Not a good idea, Not a good idea. However, something
Speaker 1: that we think is a great idea is, you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't feel incredibly comfortable, you know, going out,
Speaker 1: or maybe you're in a category that is more high risk,
Speaker 1: start booking a trip, uh, you know, for fall maybe
Speaker 1: of next year. Planning your trip truly is half of
Speaker 1: the fund. Dreaming about the place that you're gonna go
Speaker 1: visit in the different exploring that you're gonna do while
Speaker 1: scouring Airbnb, Verbo, trip Advisor, you know, all those different sites.
Speaker 1: That makes for some really fun evenings. The Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal actually reported that vacations for for later next year.
Speaker 1: They're actually getting booked up in droves. In large part
Speaker 1: that's because people are postponing the trips that they have
Speaker 1: had planned to take this year, and they're rolling over
Speaker 1: that money towards taking that same vacation next year. And
Speaker 1: so by default, that's kind of something that a lot
Speaker 1: of folks are already doing right Like, you're also seeing
Speaker 1: this with weddings, as folks are postponing the big wedding.
Speaker 1: They're still getting married now, but they're going to postpone
Speaker 1: the big party. A lot of us are postponing these
Speaker 1: different big events and trips at a necessity, but it's
Speaker 1: also a way for us to realize some of that
Speaker 1: enjoyment now, even though we can't actually travel right now. Yeah, Matt,
Speaker 1: So much of the joy from an awesome trip is
Speaker 1: in the planning aspect, is in the eat up to
Speaker 1: it right. The trip itself is always pretty fun, but
Speaker 1: the planning, in my opinion, is a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: I love looking at different Airbnb houses with Emily. When
Speaker 1: we're thinking about taking a trip, we're kind of plotting
Speaker 1: our course. You know, what are we gonna do, What
Speaker 1: are we gonna see? Reading what other people have written
Speaker 1: about their trips and kind of taking out some of
Speaker 1: the best things that we want to do. That's super fun.
Speaker 1: So if you don't feel like you can take a
Speaker 1: vacation right now anywhere, start planning the next one. That's
Speaker 1: a brilliant piece of advice. Take that time to plan
Speaker 1: the ultimate trip next year. Yeah, exactly. And then also
Speaker 1: the back end of the trip is where a lot
Speaker 1: of joy can be found. So maybe instead of taking
Speaker 1: a trip somewhere, reminiscing about trips previously taken is a
Speaker 1: way to go. And that's free, and it's really fun
Speaker 1: that the post vacation look back allows you to essentially
Speaker 1: relive your favorite memories. And so pop open a craft
Speaker 1: beer and take out the pictures and have have fun
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, one of your favorite vacations. And
Speaker 1: so Emily and I'm at we've got a night picked
Speaker 1: out on the calendar, or we're gonna sit down look
Speaker 1: at our pictures from a trip that we loved when
Speaker 1: we went to Norway. Yeah, it's gonna be just a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. It's gonna feel kind of like a
Speaker 1: date night. And obviously we have great memories from that
Speaker 1: trip that come up from time to time. But man,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how fun it's going to be to
Speaker 1: sit down for a couple of hours and just talk
Speaker 1: through it all and look back at some of the
Speaker 1: experiences that we got to have. What a fun, creative, unique,
Speaker 1: different way to kind of think about vacation. I know, me,
Speaker 1: sometimes I can always think about the thing that's coming
Speaker 1: in the future, the next thing that's up on the horizon,
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be a good exercise to to
Speaker 1: stop and to remember the good things that I've already
Speaker 1: gotten to experience. So, Yeah, that's gonna be kind of fun,
Speaker 1: and I would recommend to other people check that out
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, man, that's a great idea. That's not
Speaker 1: something I think Kate and I have ever done, which
Speaker 1: is a shame, because Kate and I are photographers and
Speaker 1: we oftentimes take our you know, our nice cameras with
Speaker 1: us when we travel, so that means we have a
Speaker 1: lot of great photos of a lot of the different
Speaker 1: places we've been to all over the world. Um, And
Speaker 1: something else that's coming in my mind too, is that
Speaker 1: this might be an awesome way to teach our kids
Speaker 1: about some of the different places we've been to and
Speaker 1: to teach them about us, right, like to for them
Speaker 1: to learn that, like, hey, we're more than just mommy
Speaker 1: and daddy, like like we used to be world travelers,
Speaker 1: Like look at all the cool things that we've seen.
Speaker 1: And it's a a way for them to maybe learn
Speaker 1: about our history a little bit. Yeah, a little family
Speaker 1: slide show night. That sounds good exactly, and I think
Speaker 1: they would think it's cool. At this point. You know,
Speaker 1: they're not so old that they're just like you know,
Speaker 1: so they're a captive audience at this point. Basically, at
Speaker 1: this stage, anytime you put anything on the TV, you've
Speaker 1: got to cap the body, you know. Basically, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, what we're trying to communicate here
Speaker 1: is to to not let COVID ruin your vacation plans.
Speaker 1: You know, there are lots of creative ways to to
Speaker 1: either work around it or even to plan ahead for
Speaker 1: future vacations and to make the most of the time
Speaker 1: that you have off now. Uh and and definitely do
Speaker 1: make sure that you do take that vacation time right.
Speaker 1: You need to rest and to recharge. So we would
Speaker 1: recommend for folks to to get creative and then specifically
Speaker 1: look to the different locations and attractions that you have
Speaker 1: available to you locally. And you know, one other added
Speaker 1: bonus is that when you get creative, like it's almost
Speaker 1: always uh synonymous with saving money as well. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like creativity, I like money saving, so I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: to travel, it's all kind of fits together, and I
Speaker 1: think so many people Hopefully this broaden your horiz sin
Speaker 1: is about what your time off this summer or this
Speaker 1: fall could look like, whether you're an individual or with
Speaker 1: your family. Obviously, the virus has impeded a lot of
Speaker 1: our plans, but it doesn't mean that they all have
Speaker 1: to crash and burn and we have to lock ourselves
Speaker 1: inside of our houses only checking our mail, which is
Speaker 1: the only safe thing to do. There are other things
Speaker 1: that we can do. We can take precautions, and there
Speaker 1: are a lot of creative things that we can do
Speaker 1: in order to to enjoy that time off. And we
Speaker 1: need that time off. It's important for resting and recharging
Speaker 1: and then for getting back to work and being able
Speaker 1: to kick button do a good job. So all right, Matt,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the beer that we had on
Speaker 1: this episode. Today, we drank a beer called the Fantasy
Speaker 1: swamp Thing. Fantasy that always say fantasy fantasy. Okay, so
Speaker 1: fantasy fantasy Swaanzy. This was a sour whit beer from
Speaker 1: Savannah River Brewing Company, given to us by listener Jeff So. Jeff,
Speaker 1: thanks for uh tossing this beer our way, Matt. What
Speaker 1: were your thoughts on this beer? Man? I liked it, man,
Speaker 1: this was a really tasty, refreshing beer for the summer.
Speaker 1: There's like an immediate tartness that I feel like you
Speaker 1: that accompanies the blackberries. It's almost like getting some blackberries
Speaker 1: that are a little bit under ripe a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was pretty sour like. It almost kind of bordered
Speaker 1: on like warhead candy material. You remember war heads, Like
Speaker 1: you pop them in your mouth and you're like, whoa
Speaker 1: tear jerker. Yeah, yeah, kind of get you a little bit.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I still had a little
Speaker 1: bit of sweetness with that, with that kind of wheat
Speaker 1: that whitt beer kind of rounded it out a little bit.
Speaker 1: I really like the artwork on here as well. I had,
Speaker 1: like it's called swamp Thing, and so it's kind of
Speaker 1: got like this swamp monster, kind of old school sixties
Speaker 1: retro monster on the front of it um. And I
Speaker 1: also noticed on the side it says no regrets, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's written like egrets, because that's like a
Speaker 1: Georgia bird that like hang out and swamps a lot.
Speaker 1: So I think it's just a nice little play on words.
Speaker 1: Instead of no regrets, it's no regrets pronounced. Is it
Speaker 1: egrets or regrets? No? I always say egrets, okay, but
Speaker 1: I'll say in regrets just to rhyme with regrets. Yeah, okay, gotcha,
Speaker 1: gota okay, all right? Yeah, Well, I thought this beer
Speaker 1: was was interesting, the blackberries in the guava and the
Speaker 1: sour kind of I forgot to mention the guava. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there. It's definitely there. It's definitely there. And that
Speaker 1: combo was was pretty nice. It was bright, it was fruity.
Speaker 1: It had definitely had that mouth buckering thing going on. Hey, Matt.
Speaker 1: It actually reminded me of this BlackBerry pie, this homemade
Speaker 1: BlackBerry pie that Emily recently made that was absolutely delicious.
Speaker 1: And we picked those blackberries just down the street at
Speaker 1: this local place that we found during the Panda Well,
Speaker 1: that's the tiny little nature preserve we mentioned earlier, like
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of blackberries there for sure. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: this this beer reminded me of that beautiful pie with
Speaker 1: the free blackberries. So yeah, it was a really good one.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed having this one on the show with you today, man, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I did as well. And thanks again to Jeff for
Speaker 1: donating this beer as well as the beer from Monday's
Speaker 1: episode to the show. So, Joel, that's gonna be it
Speaker 1: for this episode. We will have our show notes up
Speaker 1: on the website at how some money dot com. We'll
Speaker 1: put some of those resources up there that we mentioned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so happy trails to everybody out there who's going to
Speaker 1: do some exploring after listening to this one. Hope you
Speaker 1: find something unique and interesting that you've never seen before.
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, Until next time, Best friends out, Best
Speaker 1: friends Out. M