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Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and Matt,

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Speaker 1: and today we're discussing getting creative with vacation ideas. Joel Man,

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Speaker 1: if there is ever a summer, if there's ever a

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Speaker 1: time when folks are gonna get more creative when it

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Speaker 1: comes to how they're spending their time off, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be now. Right with COVID with a pandemic altering how

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Speaker 1: we live. It's you know, obviously not only affecting our

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Speaker 1: ability to go to restaurants and going to the stores

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that in school. So obviously, um, we're

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Speaker 1: feeling that less now that school has been out, but

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Speaker 1: like we went almost the entire spring without school being

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Speaker 1: in session. But now we're also seeing how it's affecting

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Speaker 1: our summer travels, how we vacation. And so I'm excited

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about this topic here in the middle

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Speaker 1: of summer to hopefully give our listeners some different idea,

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Speaker 1: some some out of the box ways to think about

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Speaker 1: how they should go about taking their time off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially like you said, because of COVID, it's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to change how we take our time off. And we

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Speaker 1: still think it's important for people to take time off,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so we'll talk about that too. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, Matt, I wanted to to

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Speaker 1: let you know I had a rental property. One of

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Speaker 1: my rental properties just recently come up. One of my

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Speaker 1: tenants is buying a home just just for the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love it when my tenants stay in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of so fun. I see him around jogging

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Speaker 1: or at a restaurant when we go to restaurants again someday.

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Speaker 1: How far away are they moving from that house? So

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Speaker 1: I think it's just just over a mile, not far. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not bad, I've got your beat. I had to send

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Speaker 1: it at one of our houses close by, and they

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Speaker 1: moved literally four houses away. They purchased the house that

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Speaker 1: was right around the corner from the rental, which totally

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Speaker 1: the same thing, same sort of mentality. It made me

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Speaker 1: so happy that they love the neighborhood so much. And

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Speaker 1: of course they probably saw that house and knew about

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Speaker 1: it because they're just out for a walk. I saw

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Speaker 1: the sign in the front yard, like, oh, I can

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Speaker 1: stay in the neighborhood. Known something. It makes me feel

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Speaker 1: good about the house and about the neighborhood as well,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad just to see that they're still kind

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Speaker 1: of in the neighborhood, you know, being a part of it,

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Speaker 1: investing in the neighborhood to make Atlanta better. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: completely agree. But I had to go through the relisting

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Speaker 1: process right and find some new tenants and a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. One I got poison ivy while I was

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Speaker 1: trying to do the weeding in the front yard. I

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Speaker 1: still see the scabs on your arms. Dude, It's terrible.

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Speaker 1: I'm so susceptible to poison ivy. I really got to

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Speaker 1: stop digging around in the yard like that, or you

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Speaker 1: just need to get better at recognizing it. Do or

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Speaker 1: wearing long sleeves no matter what when I'm doing that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I get it so bad. It was ridiculous

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Speaker 1: with some like chin on my arms on my legs.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna watch out for that next time.

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Speaker 1: But I also I learned something else besides the dangerous

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Speaker 1: of playing in poison ivy. I learned that Zillo is

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Speaker 1: now charging landlords to list their property. Yes they are.

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Speaker 1: They're charging ten bucks per week every time you need

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Speaker 1: to realist a property and up until this point in time,

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Speaker 1: it's been free to list your property, and so I've

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Speaker 1: constantly used Zillo. I've had a great experience. I always

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Speaker 1: been able to find good tenants. They end up dispersing

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Speaker 1: that listing to a bunch of other websites where where

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Speaker 1: people look, including hot pads and Trulia, And so I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of frugal, right, maybe borderline cheap, And so

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Speaker 1: I figured I would run an experiment. What if instead?

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Speaker 1: I've heard people having good results from posting their rental

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Speaker 1: property on Facebook yard sale, So I figured I'd give

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Speaker 1: that a shot. I had plenty of time, I had

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Speaker 1: a nice window of two months to find a new tenant,

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Speaker 1: and so I held off on posting on Zillo and

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Speaker 1: I just posted on Facebook yard sale and crickets. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get anybody reaching interest, no interest at all, nobody

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Speaker 1: inquiring about touring the home. So yeah, I let that

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Speaker 1: so I realized, all right, I'm not to buy the bullet,

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Speaker 1: pay the ten bucks for a week and hop on Zillo. Dude,

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Speaker 1: instantaneous emails, It's like turning this picket on. It's completely

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Speaker 1: worth the ten bucks. I had ten showings over basically

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Speaker 1: had all these people coming in found a great tenant.

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Speaker 1: So for all the landlords out there who are trying

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Speaker 1: Zillo cost money, maybe Facebook yard Tale will work out

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Speaker 1: for you. It didn't for me. I ended up having

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Speaker 1: to pay the ten bucks. But ten bucks for a

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Speaker 1: being out there in front of as many potential tenants

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Speaker 1: as possible, that's small potatoes. That's a price worth thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more than anything, I feel like what it does is

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Speaker 1: it kind of removes from the clutter because the problem

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Speaker 1: with Zillo and a lot of these listing services is

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Speaker 1: that folks would just leave their properties up there and

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Speaker 1: it just clutters the results. And so folks who are

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Speaker 1: ones that aren't actual listings. They're just I don't know

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Speaker 1: why they're up there, but people leave listings up there's

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Speaker 1: fake listings everywhere, But it cuts the clutter, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so like I'm more than happy to pay ten

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Speaker 1: bucks a week. I mean, like, what's two three weeks

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Speaker 1: like thirty bucks? You know, like even two months eighty bucks?

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Speaker 1: Eighty bucks is nothing to find a really qualit city

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Speaker 1: tendant if that's how long it takes. And I really

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Speaker 1: only had to pay with ten bucks. So well, some

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Speaker 1: unsolicited advice, if you've got that many inquiries in one day,

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Speaker 1: maybe you need to like raise the price a little

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Speaker 1: bit there. Well, I will say supply and demand, Tolmie.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. But out of all the responses

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Speaker 1: I got and the ten people touring, only one person

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Speaker 1: I did kind of hit the sweet spot, I think, so,

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Speaker 1: I think so yeah, But I think I agree. Zillo

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Speaker 1: is great because they push out their listenings to hot

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Speaker 1: they own, they all source from Zillo. And Zello is

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Speaker 1: great too, man, because when you log into as a

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Speaker 1: property manager, they save your account and so you just

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Speaker 1: all you have to do is log back in, you

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Speaker 1: reactivate that account, and so from a landlord perspective, it's

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Speaker 1: great for that reason. At the other end of the

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Speaker 1: spectrum of what we would not recommend you doing is Craigslist. Craigs.

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Speaker 1: This is the worst, dude. Not only do you have

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Speaker 1: never had a serious applicant uh for a property through Craigslist.

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Speaker 1: And you're listing is always it ripped off on Craigslist,

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Speaker 1: you know, like some scammer will uh will rip your photos,

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Speaker 1: steal your copy, create a new listing for like five cheaper,

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Speaker 1: and it will have have a different, different headline, so

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Speaker 1: it's not easy to find. But I've had folks show

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Speaker 1: two folks who have contacted via the real listing, and

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Speaker 1: they're like, Hey, is this the house for seven? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: There's a huge problem with those scams listening. And I

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Speaker 1: think Craigslist is charging for some listings now too, I

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Speaker 1: think potentially even for rental properties. I know they are

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Speaker 1: probably to clean up all their listings. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: know they are when you're when you're listing like a

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Speaker 1: car for sale. So yeah, that's another thing. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pay money, your money is better spent on a

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Speaker 1: service where everybody's flocking, you know that you're actually gonna

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Speaker 1: find the most potential tenants. Definitely. Yeah, heads up for

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Speaker 1: all the landlords out there. All right, let's mention the

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Speaker 1: beer that we're having on this show today. We're drinking

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Speaker 1: a beer called Finnizy Swamp Thing by Savannah River Brewing Company.

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Speaker 1: This was sent to us by listener Jeff and Matt.

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Speaker 1: This beer comes out of your hometown of Augusta, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Another one from Savannah Brewing Company. Yeah, so this one's

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Speaker 1: called Finnizy Swamp Thing, Fantasy Fantasy, that's how we say it. Well, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned right before we we started recording that that's

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Speaker 1: a local swamp and Augusta. Have you been there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's a swamp. And you know what's funny is

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Speaker 1: in my high school and they named their band Fantasy.

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Speaker 1: What's a good name. Yeah, pretty good name. I think

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Speaker 1: they're kind of going with a jam band kind of feel.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, emo, Oh yeah, we weren't quite

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Speaker 1: in that emo era just yet. But no, I actually

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Speaker 1: have never been to that swamp before. And I was

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Speaker 1: looking at some pictures online, and we're planning a trip

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Speaker 1: little little day trip, you know, other than visiting family,

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Speaker 1: of course, but getting out and seeing a cool local destination,

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Speaker 1: like a like a cool swamp like that. That might

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Speaker 1: my alley. So wherever you go all the swamps. I

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Speaker 1: got a little swamp checklist. You would have visit all

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Speaker 1: the swamps in off Ffty states. I wouldn't put it

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Speaker 1: a past youre alright. But Matt actually brings us perfectly

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Speaker 1: time to get creative if you have hopes of having

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Speaker 1: up Spain. Oh not the time for that. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we had travel experts. Scott kais on a recent episode

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Speaker 1: to discuss refunds and the safety of air travel. But

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Speaker 1: getting on an airplane to travel while actually being decently

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Speaker 1: we're going to explore some creative options for summer travel

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Speaker 1: that will be fun and also super affordable. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into today. Yeah. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Airbnb, you know, he said that travel

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Speaker 1: completely convinced that he's right. Uh. He also mentioned how

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Speaker 1: this is the type of travel that really resonates with me.

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Speaker 1: But either way, you might already have a week off

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Speaker 1: if your plans may have changed due to COVID, don't

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Speaker 1: get creative. Yeah, man, we we recently talked about avoiding

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Speaker 1: the studies show that this is actually a bad thing, right,

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Speaker 1: like each time you have to buy a plane takeet

428
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Speaker 1: per family member, it costs you more, but good point.

429
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Speaker 1: Every kid that you add to your vehicle, or every

430
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Speaker 1: friend who you add to your trip, who you know

431
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Speaker 1: has taken the proper health precautions like that just brings

432
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Speaker 1: that overall cost down. And I love that. Basically, the

433
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 1: more the merrier, right, and the cheaper, but all the

434
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Speaker 1: note of health. You can easily social distance well in

435
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Speaker 1: a car with your family, you know, or some of

436
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Speaker 1: those close friends. Each individual is going to feel a

437
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: little bit differently when it comes to you know, mass transit,

438
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 1: right getting on a bus, a train, or you know,

439
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Speaker 1: an airplane with a bunch of strangers. But when you're

440
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Speaker 1: taking a car, you can avoid that stress all together. Yeah.

441
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Speaker 1: And you know what, there's testing available now, Matt, for

442
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: it's getting more widespread man, right, and so you can

443
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Speaker 1: get tested before you want a trip, if you want

444
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Speaker 1: to go with a friend, you can both get tested

445
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 1: and that just kind of broadens the appeal of that

446
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Speaker 1: road trip, whether you're doing with just your family or

447
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: you're doing it with as friends. It's nice that that's

448
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 1: a possibility that creates that option for people where they

449
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 1: might have otherwise been uncomfortable with it. So, in regards

450
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Speaker 1: to driving, you could certainly go on a super long

451
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 1: trip across the country, but you could also do things

452
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,959
Speaker 1: that are mostly local and I have to go too

453
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Speaker 1: terribly far. And that means probably doing something in your state,

454
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Speaker 1: in another location, or in a neighboring state, anything within

455
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Speaker 1: let's say a two or three hour drive at day trips. Yeah. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: and so Matt, we recently got to check out a

457
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Speaker 1: new to US state park and it had this kind

458
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Speaker 1: of cool lake beach going on. And so now my

459
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Speaker 1: wife Emily, she's gotten a little obsessed with hitting up

460
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Speaker 1: as many lake beaches as we possibly can. But she like,

461
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Speaker 1: we don't need to go to the ocean, we don't

462
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Speaker 1: need to go to a real beach. We got lake

463
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: beaches here in Georgia exactly. Yeah, So it's kind of

464
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Speaker 1: like our family goal for the summer is to to

465
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Speaker 1: hit up as many of those as we possibly can have.

466
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Speaker 1: Have you all been to a fort yargo? Have you

467
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Speaker 1: heard of that one? No? Is that I put that

468
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Speaker 1: on my list? Oh dude, yeah, I hear. That's a

469
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Speaker 1: really good one. Actually, I think it's maybe like forty

470
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Speaker 1: five minutes or an hour from like the center of Atlanta.

471
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Speaker 1: But I hear that that's a really good one. That's

472
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Speaker 1: that's where that's on our list at least. Uh And

473
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Speaker 1: we're not even like beach initiated yet, so I'm sure

474
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Speaker 1: you guys would love it, all right, Well, I'm putting

475
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Speaker 1: that on our short list, that's for sure, And so yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: we're planning on hitting up as many of those as possible.

477
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Speaker 1: We're also planning to go on bike rides at this

478
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Speaker 1: place just south of the city Matt called Callaway Gardens,

479
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Speaker 1: And I totally remember going as a kid with my family,

480
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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to take my kids. So there

481
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Speaker 1: are these things right that are local ish, basically their

482
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Speaker 1: day trip material, and it's stuff that had just kind

483
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Speaker 1: of been off my radar for a long time, but

484
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Speaker 1: now it just feels like day trip kind of stuff

485
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 1: makes so much sense for our vacation time, and so

486
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Speaker 1: we're going to prioritize that on the weekends and on

487
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Speaker 1: some of the days off that we have. Yeah, you know,

488
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Speaker 1: I think it's cool man that one of the unexpected

489
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Speaker 1: consequences of COVID is that I think it's allowed a

490
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Speaker 1: lot of individuals to be more intentional with their time,

491
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Speaker 1: and if it weren't for the pandemic, like, maybe we

492
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Speaker 1: would be spending our time differently right if we had

493
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Speaker 1: some of the more typical options available to us. But

494
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Speaker 1: because we don't, it is causing us to kind of

495
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Speaker 1: look outside what we'd normally do. And you know, when

496
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Speaker 1: it comes to staying local, the additional bonus of staying

497
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Speaker 1: local right now is that you're also supporting your local

498
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Speaker 1: economy during time that they might really need it. You

499
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: know that that five dollar parking fee at a state

500
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: park that supports their upkeep, and then grabbing a takeout

501
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: lunch maybe while you're nearby, Like that's helpful to local

502
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Speaker 1: restaurants as well. I'll say that sometimes some of these

503
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Speaker 1: parking fees they're kind of on the honor system where

504
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: there's like a box and you you're supposed to stick

505
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Speaker 1: you know, like a five dollar bill in there or

506
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Speaker 1: something like that. Uh. And I'm gonna say this is

507
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: coming from to frugal, borderline cheap dudes, but may pay

508
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Speaker 1: that money. You might be attempted to not to do that,

509
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: but but realize that money is going towards the upkeep

510
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: of these nice parks Yeah, that's cheap not to put

511
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Speaker 1: the five bucks in the box, that's for sure. And man,

512
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Speaker 1: I think too, it's important to mention for for folks

513
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Speaker 1: out there who are like I don't know where to go,

514
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Speaker 1: whether it's hyperlocal or whether it's even further out local,

515
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Speaker 1: you know, in in a two to three hour day

516
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Speaker 1: trips sort of range. And I think it's important to

517
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Speaker 1: ask for recommendations. I mean, you literally just gave me one,

518
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Speaker 1: and so uh fort Yargo is on our list now.

519
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Speaker 1: But for folks who don't know where to go, ask

520
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Speaker 1: your friends, right, ask your neighbors see where they're kind

521
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: of going and where and what day trips have been

522
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: successful for their family. Do some googling. Also, check trip advisor.

523
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Speaker 1: Right you'll find great tips of all stereo towards awesome

524
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: places to visit that you might not even considered. Right.

525
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: Trip Advisor actually recommends highly Oakland Cemetery in Atlanta, which

526
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: is really close to where we live. We know about

527
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: it because it's right around the corner. But I guarantee

528
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Speaker 1: you ninety percent of Atlantains have never read right, and

529
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Speaker 1: so it's time to make it happen. Finding that on

530
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Speaker 1: trip Advisor, it's like, oh, that's a really awesome free

531
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Speaker 1: place to go that isn't all that far away from me.

532
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Speaker 1: But yeah, finding those recommendations, whether it's online or from

533
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: people in your community, is going to be super helpful

534
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Speaker 1: in helping you kind of develop an itinerary and a

535
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Speaker 1: schedule of places that you want to visit. Yeah. What's

536
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: funny about trip Advisor and some of these different online

537
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: resources is that we do this all the time when

538
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: we are planning a trip to somewhere else, right, But

539
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: when you list somewhere, you never really look at those recommendations.

540
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: You never check out trip Advisor for your own city.

541
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Speaker 1: But why not. There's a lot of places like that that,

542
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Speaker 1: Like you said, I bet of city inhabitants haven't been

543
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Speaker 1: to some of these top rated destinations and locations. Uh

544
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Speaker 1: so yeah, that's that's definitely something. I mean, I hardly

545
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: ever do that myself since so this is a good

546
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: challenge for myself as well. Yeah, for sure. And then

547
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe what about maybe a more unique experience.

548
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: Driving movies are pretty awesome. We've got this old school

549
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: drive in movie theater, uh not too far from where

550
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: we live. But most people they don't have that, well,

551
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Walmart, they are creating driving movie theaters

552
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: in a hundred and sixty parking lot locations around the

553
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: country from August through October. I thought that was super

554
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: cool that they are taking advantage of. Basically, you know,

555
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: they already have the driving movie theater set up, which

556
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: is just a big asphalt parking lot where people can

557
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: easily get in and get out. All they need to

558
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: do is set up a screen. You know, why not

559
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: driving movies? Man, there's so much fun. I haven't been

560
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: to one in a while, mostly because I have kids

561
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: and we can't stay up that late. But they are

562
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: a blast, and so I think for a lot of people,

563
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Speaker 1: especially if you have older kids, go into one of

564
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: these drive in movies at a Walmart parking lot could

565
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun for your fam. But if

566
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Speaker 1: you want to go further and see some new terrain, well,

567
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Speaker 1: Matt and I will discuss some creative and affordable options

568
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: for embarking on a bigger trip this summer, and we'll

569
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Speaker 1: get to some of those right after the break. All right, Joel,

570
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: we are back from the break, and we're talking about

571
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Speaker 1: fun and different creative things that you can do. Uh

572
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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't normally do in order to kind of

573
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: get away, take time off vacation a little bit. Do

574
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Speaker 1: you remember when you and I we went fly fishing.

575
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Speaker 1: A buddy of ours took us fly fishing. It was

576
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: in like the middle of winter. We're up in the mountains.

577
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: It was crazy cold, and what I remember most is

578
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Speaker 1: that we didn't catch a single fish. We didn't. I

579
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: will say, you know, I've always loved the movie and

580
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: the book A River runs through it, and I have

581
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: kind of these ideals of what it would look like

582
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: to go fly fishing. It didn't live up to it.

583
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like that at all. We weren't up in Montana.

584
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Speaker 1: It wasn't this you know, beautiful Do you call it

585
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Speaker 1: idyllic scene? We weren't like casting super fancy like Brad

586
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Pitt does in the movie shadow casting. Oh yeah, I

587
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna call it ghost casting shadow casting.

588
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Speaker 1: But you know, regardless, if you're staying local or going

589
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: on a bigger trip, like we can't recommend getting outdoors enough.

590
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: You know, that could be as simple as checking out

591
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Speaker 1: a local trail or swimming hole, maybe a beach that's

592
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: not overly crowded. Uh, you know, or a trip to

593
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Speaker 1: a national park. There are so many benefits of getting outside,

594
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: moving your body, right, it's affordable, oftentimes you're getting good exercise.

595
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: But also you know, this is going to be a

596
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: great way to help reduce the spread of COVID. Open

597
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: air situations, as we now know, are much safer places

598
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: to be, so, you know, outdoor parks and hiking they

599
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: are the perfect activity. Yeah, man, I agree. I think

600
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: seeing our country is is a great way to go,

601
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: especially in recent years as international travel prices have just

602
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: come down in a major way. So many people have

603
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: thought about their vacations as as going overseas, taking a

604
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: flight somewhere else, and many of us have forgotten to

605
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: even consider traveling domestically. But there are so many awesome,

606
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: beautiful places to visit in our own country, and so

607
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: there's so much history natural beauty that we can access

608
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: without even hopping on a plane. We can drive there,

609
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: and in all likelihood you can do this in the

610
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Speaker 1: car you already own, right that. The national park system,

611
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: like you mentioned matt Is, is a pretty great you

612
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: can get in for free. By the way, if your

613
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Speaker 1: family has a fourth grader. I know you and I

614
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: were planning on doing that every year we can with

615
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: our children as they are in fourth grade. All of

616
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: our kids reach fourth grade, Yeah, we get to go

617
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: on all these even we're not even gonna save that

618
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: much money, right, it's eighty five bucks. It's not that

619
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Speaker 1: much money, but it's just that idea of being able

620
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: to do it for free instead of paying. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna avoid the National parks because it costs

622
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Speaker 1: eighty five bucks for the annual past but I mean, yeah,

623
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Speaker 1: when you think about it like that, how many National

624
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Speaker 1: parks can you hit up in a year for eighty

625
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: five bucks? Probably a lot. You're definitely gonna get your

626
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: money's worth it, even if you only hit up two

627
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: or three. But how many more would you hit up

628
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: if you could see all of them for absolutely free?

629
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Speaker 1: So no, I know that'd that'd be nice, right, So, yeah,

630
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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for our second graders to become fourth graders.

631
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: But if that sounds awesome, But you want more space

632
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: than just your car, and you don't want to have

633
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: to deal with hotels or renting a home because of

634
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: potential health concerns, which I understand, you might want to

635
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: consider getting away in an RV Matt. RVs have become

636
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: so popular lately, especially because of the pandemic. People want

637
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of their own quarters to travel in. Yeah, you know,

638
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the idea with the r V is you could basically

639
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: bring your hotel room with you, right, uh, you know,

640
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: and obviously this lessons the risk of getting sick. And

641
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: you could, you know, buy something off Craigslist or you know,

642
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: Facebook yard sale. But RVs have become incredibly popular during

643
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: the pandemic, so you might be looking at slim pickings

644
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: and pretty high prices too, So you could instead short

645
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: term rent one on a site like Outdoorsy or r

646
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: v share dot com, or even maybe talk to a

647
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: friend who's recently bought one. I'm thinking of some friends

648
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: of ours who live out in the Bourbs and I

649
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: noticed online that they recently purchased one. I'm not thinking

650
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be using it every single week this summer,

651
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: and so maybe the conversation would go something like, Hey,

652
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: how about we push you guys a couple in your

653
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: bucks And I gotta think that they might be down

654
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: for that to help offset the cost of that thing. Right,

655
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: And so, whether you decide to explore in an RV

656
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: for a few days, you know, or even a few weeks.

657
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: Renting went up, at least at first, we think that

658
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: would be the best answer to make sure that that

659
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: is going to fit with how you want to travel. Yeah,

660
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: the RV lifestyle is not for everybody, and if you

661
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: buy one and realize it's not for you, you're gonna

662
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: take a huge hit on the resale. So yeah, renting one,

663
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: trying it out first, borrowing one, or renting one from

664
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: a friend, that's a good idea to Matt. Yeah, have

665
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: you actually ever traveled in then RV. No, it sounds

666
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: nice to me, but I've never actually done it, and

667
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would definitely want to make sure I

668
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: was running one because I could also see myself potentially

669
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: hating it. So Ever, since road Rules came out back

670
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: in the day on MTV, it's always looked like this

671
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever to do, but also that there

672
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: would be a lot of dramas. It depends right who

673
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: you're staying within the RV. If it's with a bunch

674
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: of adolescents, I mean, there's probably gonna be a lot

675
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: of drama, But if you're with your family, it might

676
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: be a little chiller. Yeah, Yeah, the only making out

677
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be happening is just me my wife. Uh

678
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: So that's one option, right is running the RV. Also camping,

679
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Right if you're driving your car with the camping equipment

680
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: in the back, it's definitely one of the most affordable

681
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: routes you can go, and bringing the tent and sleeping

682
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: bags with you. Camping is even cheaper than running an

683
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: r V or getting a hote l room. Plus you're

684
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna be fun if you do it right, and it's

685
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: an even better way to connect with nature in the outdoors,

686
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: and the rest of getting COVID is even lower matter.

687
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, so many people are concerned about hotel rooms.

688
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I from everything I've read, I don't feel terribly concerned.

689
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: I think you definitely have some questions you need to

690
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: ask of management, and there are some precautions you need

691
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: to take. But still so many people just want to

692
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: forgo it altogether, which makes sense, and camping is just

693
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: like an awesome way to go if you want to

694
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: avoid that. Yeah. Literally, there's different scales out there that rank,

695
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, the risk of catching COVID With the different

696
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: activities that you can participate in and camping, I think

697
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: it's like number two. Like literally, the only thing that's

698
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: less risky is checking your mail, which isn't fun at all,

699
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Like that sounds nothing like a vacation physically checking your mail,

700
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: but camping, like literally, it's it's one of the lowest

701
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: risk activities that you can do. And by the way,

702
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: like one of the highest things you can do is

703
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: like go to a bar. So don't go to bars

704
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: where you have to like yell at people in order

705
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: to be heard and people are taking their masks off

706
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: to drink. And such a terrible idea. Going clubbing right now?

707
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Not a good idea, Not a good idea. However, something

708
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: that we think is a great idea is, you know,

709
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: if you don't feel incredibly comfortable, you know, going out,

710
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: or maybe you're in a category that is more high risk,

711
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: start booking a trip, uh, you know, for fall maybe

712
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: of next year. Planning your trip truly is half of

713
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: the fund. Dreaming about the place that you're gonna go

714
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: visit in the different exploring that you're gonna do while

715
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: scouring Airbnb, Verbo, trip Advisor, you know, all those different sites.

716
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: That makes for some really fun evenings. The Wall Street

717
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: Journal actually reported that vacations for for later next year.

718
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: They're actually getting booked up in droves. In large part

719
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: that's because people are postponing the trips that they have

720
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: had planned to take this year, and they're rolling over

721
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: that money towards taking that same vacation next year. And

722
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: so by default, that's kind of something that a lot

723
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: of folks are already doing right Like, you're also seeing

724
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: this with weddings, as folks are postponing the big wedding.

725
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: They're still getting married now, but they're going to postpone

726
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: the big party. A lot of us are postponing these

727
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: different big events and trips at a necessity, but it's

728
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: also a way for us to realize some of that

729
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: enjoyment now, even though we can't actually travel right now. Yeah, Matt,

730
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: So much of the joy from an awesome trip is

731
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: in the planning aspect, is in the eat up to

732
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: it right. The trip itself is always pretty fun, but

733
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: the planning, in my opinion, is a ton of fun.

734
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: I love looking at different Airbnb houses with Emily. When

735
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: we're thinking about taking a trip, we're kind of plotting

736
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: our course. You know, what are we gonna do, What

737
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: are we gonna see? Reading what other people have written

738
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: about their trips and kind of taking out some of

739
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: the best things that we want to do. That's super fun.

740
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: So if you don't feel like you can take a

741
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: vacation right now anywhere, start planning the next one. That's

742
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: a brilliant piece of advice. Take that time to plan

743
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: the ultimate trip next year. Yeah, exactly. And then also

744
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: the back end of the trip is where a lot

745
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: of joy can be found. So maybe instead of taking

746
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: a trip somewhere, reminiscing about trips previously taken is a

747
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: way to go. And that's free, and it's really fun

748
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: that the post vacation look back allows you to essentially

749
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: relive your favorite memories. And so pop open a craft

750
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: beer and take out the pictures and have have fun

751
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, one of your favorite vacations. And

752
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: so Emily and I'm at we've got a night picked

753
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: out on the calendar, or we're gonna sit down look

754
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: at our pictures from a trip that we loved when

755
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: we went to Norway. Yeah, it's gonna be just a

756
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun. It's gonna feel kind of like a

757
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: date night. And obviously we have great memories from that

758
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: trip that come up from time to time. But man,

759
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how fun it's going to be to

760
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: sit down for a couple of hours and just talk

761
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: through it all and look back at some of the

762
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: experiences that we got to have. What a fun, creative, unique,

763
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: different way to kind of think about vacation. I know, me,

764
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: sometimes I can always think about the thing that's coming

765
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: in the future, the next thing that's up on the horizon,

766
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be a good exercise to to

767
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: stop and to remember the good things that I've already

768
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: gotten to experience. So, Yeah, that's gonna be kind of fun,

769
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: and I would recommend to other people check that out

770
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, man, that's a great idea. That's not

771
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: something I think Kate and I have ever done, which

772
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: is a shame, because Kate and I are photographers and

773
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: we oftentimes take our you know, our nice cameras with

774
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: us when we travel, so that means we have a

775
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: lot of great photos of a lot of the different

776
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: places we've been to all over the world. Um, And

777
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: something else that's coming in my mind too, is that

778
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: this might be an awesome way to teach our kids

779
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: about some of the different places we've been to and

780
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: to teach them about us, right, like to for them

781
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: to learn that, like, hey, we're more than just mommy

782
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: and daddy, like like we used to be world travelers,

783
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Like look at all the cool things that we've seen.

784
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: And it's a a way for them to maybe learn

785
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: about our history a little bit. Yeah, a little family

786
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: slide show night. That sounds good exactly, and I think

787
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: they would think it's cool. At this point. You know,

788
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: they're not so old that they're just like you know,

789
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: so they're a captive audience at this point. Basically, at

790
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: this stage, anytime you put anything on the TV, you've

791
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: got to cap the body, you know. Basically, at the

792
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, what we're trying to communicate here

793
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: is to to not let COVID ruin your vacation plans.

794
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: You know, there are lots of creative ways to to

795
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: either work around it or even to plan ahead for

796
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: future vacations and to make the most of the time

797
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: that you have off now. Uh and and definitely do

798
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: make sure that you do take that vacation time right.

799
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: You need to rest and to recharge. So we would

800
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: recommend for folks to to get creative and then specifically

801
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: look to the different locations and attractions that you have

802
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: available to you locally. And you know, one other added

803
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: bonus is that when you get creative, like it's almost

804
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: always uh synonymous with saving money as well. Yeah, I

805
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: like creativity, I like money saving, so I think, yeah,

806
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: to travel, it's all kind of fits together, and I

807
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: think so many people Hopefully this broaden your horiz sin

808
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: is about what your time off this summer or this

809
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: fall could look like, whether you're an individual or with

810
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: your family. Obviously, the virus has impeded a lot of

811
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: our plans, but it doesn't mean that they all have

812
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: to crash and burn and we have to lock ourselves

813
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: inside of our houses only checking our mail, which is

814
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: the only safe thing to do. There are other things

815
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: that we can do. We can take precautions, and there

816
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: are a lot of creative things that we can do

817
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: in order to to enjoy that time off. And we

818
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: need that time off. It's important for resting and recharging

819
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: and then for getting back to work and being able

820
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: to kick button do a good job. So all right, Matt,

821
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: let's get back to the beer that we had on

822
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: this episode. Today, we drank a beer called the Fantasy

823
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: swamp Thing. Fantasy that always say fantasy fantasy. Okay, so

824
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: fantasy fantasy Swaanzy. This was a sour whit beer from

825
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Savannah River Brewing Company, given to us by listener Jeff So. Jeff,

826
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: thanks for uh tossing this beer our way, Matt. What

827
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: were your thoughts on this beer? Man? I liked it, man,

828
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: this was a really tasty, refreshing beer for the summer.

829
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: There's like an immediate tartness that I feel like you

830
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: that accompanies the blackberries. It's almost like getting some blackberries

831
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: that are a little bit under ripe a little bit.

832
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: It was pretty sour like. It almost kind of bordered

833
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: on like warhead candy material. You remember war heads, Like

834
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: you pop them in your mouth and you're like, whoa

835
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: tear jerker. Yeah, yeah, kind of get you a little bit.

836
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I still had a little

837
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: bit of sweetness with that, with that kind of wheat

838
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: that whitt beer kind of rounded it out a little bit.

839
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: I really like the artwork on here as well. I had,

840
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: like it's called swamp Thing, and so it's kind of

841
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: got like this swamp monster, kind of old school sixties

842
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: retro monster on the front of it um. And I

843
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: also noticed on the side it says no regrets, but

844
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: it's like it's written like egrets, because that's like a

845
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: Georgia bird that like hang out and swamps a lot.

846
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: So I think it's just a nice little play on words.

847
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: Instead of no regrets, it's no regrets pronounced. Is it

848
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: egrets or regrets? No? I always say egrets, okay, but

849
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I'll say in regrets just to rhyme with regrets. Yeah, okay, gotcha,

850
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: gota okay, all right? Yeah, Well, I thought this beer

851
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: was was interesting, the blackberries in the guava and the

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Speaker 1: sour kind of I forgot to mention the guava. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's there. It's definitely there. It's definitely there. And that

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Speaker 1: combo was was pretty nice. It was bright, it was fruity.

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Speaker 1: It had definitely had that mouth buckering thing going on. Hey, Matt.

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Speaker 1: It actually reminded me of this BlackBerry pie, this homemade

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Speaker 1: BlackBerry pie that Emily recently made that was absolutely delicious.

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Speaker 1: And we picked those blackberries just down the street at

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Speaker 1: this local place that we found during the Panda Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the tiny little nature preserve we mentioned earlier, like

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Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of blackberries there for sure. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: this this beer reminded me of that beautiful pie with

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Speaker 1: the free blackberries. So yeah, it was a really good one.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed having this one on the show with you today, man, Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I did as well. And thanks again to Jeff for

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Speaker 1: donating this beer as well as the beer from Monday's

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Speaker 1: episode to the show. So, Joel, that's gonna be it

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Speaker 1: for this episode. We will have our show notes up

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Speaker 1: on the website at how some money dot com. We'll

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Speaker 1: put some of those resources up there that we mentioned. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so happy trails to everybody out there who's going to

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Speaker 1: do some exploring after listening to this one. Hope you

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Speaker 1: find something unique and interesting that you've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: All right, Matt, Until next time, Best friends out, Best

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Speaker 1: friends Out. M