Speaker 1: Al Zone Media.
Speaker 2: Oh, welcome back to podcast Man Sad, Bad People, the
Speaker 2: podcast about bad people that make the podcast Man Sad.
Speaker 2: I'm the podcast man Robert Evans, and my co host
Speaker 2: today is our friend Garrison Davis. Garrison, how are you
Speaker 2: doing good? I thought it was one of my better intros.
Speaker 3: It was unfortunately quite good for a topic about it's
Speaker 3: absoitely deranged shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so obviously. This is part two of our
Speaker 2: series on Justin Mohane, the author of our first politically
Speaker 2: Motivated author, first.
Speaker 3: Just author better known for his other work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people should know that when you make
Speaker 2: that joke, as you did the other week on Behind
Speaker 2: the Bastards Too, you are referring to a mathematics paper
Speaker 2: that cites the Unibomber's other published mathematic theories. Is like
Speaker 2: better known for his other work mailing bombs to people.
Speaker 3: Oh pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the unabomber, Justin Mohen is deeply accomplished,
Speaker 2: as in all, he's written more books than I have.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, that is true. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 3: want to be writing the types of books that Justin is,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 2: No, but he did write them, and you get credit
Speaker 2: for that su sure. So this was, as you stated
Speaker 2: last episode published in twenty twenty. And I need to
Speaker 2: start with the cover of this thing because it's it's
Speaker 2: something else we see.
Speaker 3: It's not a good cover.
Speaker 2: No, it is taken. He appears to have taken it
Speaker 2: or someone else took it from of him very close
Speaker 2: up at a rest stop. And this is relevant because
Speaker 2: rest stops play a critical critical role in some of
Speaker 2: his beliefs about the world and some of his theories
Speaker 2: about things that have happened to us. Yes, rest stops
Speaker 2: are happening places for Justin Mohan. Okay, he is looking
Speaker 2: behind him, he's like slightly disheveled. He's got like his
Speaker 2: shirt open weirdly down like a button further than.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm basically gang Stocking vibes here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much Again, we'll explain gang Stocking in
Speaker 2: a second. But the pictures him, he's like looking behind
Speaker 2: his shoulder. There's like two big lights behind him in
Speaker 2: the distance in this photo, clearly taking at a rest stop.
Speaker 2: And then there are like cartoon text bubbles over his
Speaker 2: shoulder next to the lights that say get his picture, Hey,
Speaker 2: there he is, And then like cartoon action bubbles that say,
Speaker 2: snap snap, that I think are supposed to represent people
Speaker 2: taking photos taking pictures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay this.
Speaker 2: As soon as I saw this, I had the same
Speaker 2: reaction you had, which is like, oh, this is some
Speaker 2: gang stocking shit, And if you're not aware of gang stocking,
Speaker 2: gang stocking is kind of an er web two point
Speaker 2: zero conspiratorial belief system. I don't know the conspiracy theory
Speaker 2: is even really the right way to frame it. Gang
Speaker 2: Stalking is people who have I think these are generally
Speaker 2: people with schizophrenia, and one of the things that you
Speaker 2: can experience with schizophrenia is both this kind of overwhelming
Speaker 2: sense of paranoia and also the stereotypical hearing voices right,
Speaker 2: and some people become convinced that they are being followed.
Speaker 2: You know, this is something that has happened probably as
Speaker 2: long as it has existed, that they are being tracked,
Speaker 2: that they are people who are listening in on their thoughts.
Speaker 2: You hear variations of it. With the Internet and digital communities,
Speaker 2: a chunk of people experiencing this started forming communities online,
Speaker 2: and I don't know the exact I don't know of
Speaker 2: anyone has sort of like sketched out how this happened
Speaker 2: in time, but the belief they ended up at is
Speaker 2: that certain people are what are called targeted individuals within
Speaker 2: the community, and those people are being stalked at all
Speaker 2: times by large numbers of generally government spies. Now when
Speaker 2: I say government spies, they are not in like a
Speaker 2: James Bond type operator. They believe these are the regular
Speaker 2: people in the street around them, like people in their neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Their neighbors are all spies and are all stalking them
Speaker 2: all the time. And you can watch hours of videos.
Speaker 2: These people will often film eight hours of their life
Speaker 2: at a stretch, and you can see them just like
Speaker 2: angrily shouting at their window at like some dude walking
Speaker 2: past their house or whatever, or like a car be
Speaker 2: like see that blue cars past three times, and that
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen if this wasn't like that. And it's so
Speaker 2: one of the things that like one of the reasons
Speaker 2: that gang stalking is kind of interesting and valuable to
Speaker 2: study if you're interested in like how we got to
Speaker 2: our present moment of like reality collapse in the United States,
Speaker 2: is that this is an example of kind of feelings
Speaker 2: that have been associated with certain mental illnesses. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say it's just schizophrena, but certain mental illnesses bring
Speaker 2: about severe bouts of paranoia and a feeling that you
Speaker 2: are being stalked, right, or people who are listening in
Speaker 2: on your thoughts or whatever. Because of the way digital
Speaker 2: communities work, of people experiencing this were able to not
Speaker 2: just get together and share their experiences, but convince each
Speaker 2: other that they were not the result of an illness
Speaker 2: and are in fact the result of a conspiracy. And
Speaker 2: they have now built a mythos around that conspiracy, and
Speaker 2: it has led to killings before. People have killed folks
Speaker 2: they believed were stalking them over gang stocking delusions. It's
Speaker 2: been happening for years. So yeah, that was the first
Speaker 2: thing that occurred to me when I saw this cover.
Speaker 2: And you can find other art that Moan put out
Speaker 2: where it's like real pictures of him and then fake
Speaker 2: art of like ghostly figures stalking him with cameras and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3: A few months before he released his book, he put
Speaker 3: out a song on Spotify called The Justin's Stalkers about
Speaker 3: being gang stocked.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and again, gangstock is not a political conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: Other than that you have to believe the government's evil,
Speaker 2: but don't we all right, So it's very accessible.
Speaker 3: There's certain gangstocking people who think they're like the Freemasons
Speaker 3: are stocking mere like the Illuminatis stocking.
Speaker 2: It's like random fantifa, you know, a shopper. Yeah, shit
Speaker 2: gets grafted on as a result of politics, but it
Speaker 2: did not inherently start as something that was like a
Speaker 2: political thing, just kind of out of this very ex
Speaker 2: filesy because the nineties is really when this starts to form,
Speaker 2: I think late nineties.
Speaker 3: And it's spread like wildfire are on, Like early Internet culture,
Speaker 3: people were able to convince each other or like yeah
Speaker 3: have have there alreadies like a small delusion be strengthened
Speaker 3: and grown stronger by other people in this community, all
Speaker 3: kind of encouraging each other.
Speaker 2: And I think it's relevant too that it's kind of
Speaker 2: a Web two point zero, early Web two point zero phenomenon,
Speaker 2: because I don't think you get the same thing, and
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that what you would get
Speaker 2: would be any healthier, but from the social media, because
Speaker 2: the way most social media works is everyone's kind of
Speaker 2: in a big pit together, and this was really the
Speaker 2: result of a a kind of community that was closed
Speaker 2: to outsiders that wasn't really being watched by people who
Speaker 2: weren't drawn to it. Building a culture and people like really,
Speaker 2: it takes a lot of time for that to happen. Obviously,
Speaker 2: YouTube is also a big place where this has grown,
Speaker 2: but I think after it had its roots established, that
Speaker 2: was a bit of a diggression. But I think it
Speaker 2: is kind of necessary because this is definitely that is
Speaker 2: definitely where Justin comes out of. You know, like that
Speaker 2: is very clear to me. All of this is kind
Speaker 2: of rooted fundamentally in gang stalking. I think that's like
Speaker 2: the foundational keystone belief in what has become his like
Speaker 2: conspiratorial milieu. So into the book itself. The first page,
Speaker 2: after the page that lets us all know Kindle Direct
Speaker 2: Publishing is responsible for this thing, says.
Speaker 3: This book Kindles Rye Publishing. Thanks Amazon the best place
Speaker 3: to find all of the wild extremist books. Otherwise, never
Speaker 3: never make.
Speaker 2: They've really done us all a solid. This book is
Speaker 2: dedicated to those who know who the real enemy is
Speaker 2: and can still laugh even in the worst situations. Hope,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I have that describes me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's great. So there are ten chapters in this thing.
Speaker 2: They are long chapters. Chapter one is thirty two pages,
Speaker 2: Chapter two is almost sixty pages, Jesus, Chapter three is
Speaker 2: like another sixty pages, like fifty pages for five. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these are like long, long chapters. And yeah, it's about
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty pages.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So chapter one opens and I'm just gonna read you
Speaker 2: actually a decent little chunk here. So it starts with
Speaker 2: like him talking to his parents. But why leave, Buster,
Speaker 2: You're a hometown hero, Missus Moon said. Missus Moon, in
Speaker 2: her late fifties, paced back and forth on the hardwood
Speaker 2: floor of the living room. Yeah, Buster, you're popular, You
Speaker 2: were at the top of your class in high school,
Speaker 2: you were a star athlete. You could end up mayor
Speaker 2: of this town someday. Why don't you stay around here
Speaker 2: where everyone knows you and see what happens. You'll have
Speaker 2: to start a new elsewhere, mister Moon said. And obviously,
Speaker 2: Buster Moon is are the actual Justin Mohan And we're
Speaker 2: talking about his parents when we talk about mister Moon,
Speaker 2: this is his dad who he murdered in beheaded. Just
Speaker 2: you know, keep that in mind. Mister Moon, in his
Speaker 2: early sixties, sat on a couch in the living room
Speaker 2: watching television. A black and white episode of the Twilight
Speaker 2: Zone was on. The sound on the TV was muted.
Speaker 2: That's the point. I want to start anew I want
Speaker 2: to meet new people, or at least not associate with
Speaker 2: the people I grew up with and went to school
Speaker 2: with my whole life. They're all going nowhere in town,
Speaker 2: and they'll take me down with them. And we get
Speaker 2: a little more of that where like he's talking about
Speaker 2: why he wants he's not happy here, there's no future
Speaker 2: for him. What's interesting to me is why he depicts.
Speaker 2: And we don't know that this is accurate to his
Speaker 2: experience with his parents. But also I don't necessarily think
Speaker 2: it is not, because what he depicts his parents as
Speaker 2: saying is he shouldn't do this because it's dangerous. Leaving
Speaker 2: home is dangerous. You can't be safe on your own
Speaker 2: in a new place or in the city, and you
Speaker 2: will inevitably get murdered or have something horrible happen. He
Speaker 2: puts these words in his dad's mouth right after he like,
Speaker 2: first his mom tells him like, you're gonna die if
Speaker 2: you move out, and then he puts this in his
Speaker 2: dad's mouth, Yeah, you're going to get kidnapped, addicted to heroin,
Speaker 2: and sold into a sex trafficking rink. In five years
Speaker 2: from now, we'll find pictures of you bound and gagged
Speaker 2: on some Russian website where you're up for sale. So
Speaker 2: that's his dad, And then his mom adds, why do
Speaker 2: you think your older siblings stayed within Ohio when they
Speaker 2: moved out. It's dangerous out of state without your family.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's just him putting words in their mouth.
Speaker 2: But like, I have heard stuff like that from people.
Speaker 2: That is not an uncommon thing to express, especially among
Speaker 2: conservative families. Cities are dangerous, people are getting human trafficked
Speaker 2: all the time. It's not safe to be out on
Speaker 2: your own.
Speaker 3: And those are some things he talked about in his
Speaker 3: beheading video. And yeah, I know that after he had
Speaker 3: to move back home from Colorado after losing his job,
Speaker 3: he did move back in with his parents in Pennsylvania. Yep,
Speaker 3: he does have an older sister. That just random other
Speaker 3: things I know of his actual personal life and how
Speaker 3: they could maybe tie in.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you know a little
Speaker 2: bit later, as this argument goes on, there is a
Speaker 2: note where his mom like, maybe it would be for
Speaker 2: the best if we took you to a psychiatrist. Buster,
Speaker 2: you don't seem to be thinking straight interesting unclear to
Speaker 2: me if they did, but I think that does kind
Speaker 2: of suggest that was a thing his parents suggested often.
Speaker 2: And then his dad says, yeah, you're talking crazy, Buster.
Speaker 2: If someone doesn't mug you when you step out of
Speaker 2: the car, you'll end up running out of money and
Speaker 2: being homeless, and then you'll get put in prison for panhandling,
Speaker 2: trespassing or stealing food and ending up making prison love
Speaker 2: to Bubba the Butcher. And that has the feeling of
Speaker 2: something that he heard before. That that's pretty specific, like
Speaker 2: that sounds like something somebody was told and is kind
Speaker 2: of repeating here. You know, I don't know that, but
Speaker 2: that is very much the feel it has. And there's
Speaker 2: a couple other bits where it's like I could see
Speaker 2: this being something you heard from your very conservative family
Speaker 2: or elsewise picked up in the media. Because there's another
Speaker 2: point where his dad is like, you'll be all alone
Speaker 2: and they know exactly how much money you have. It's
Speaker 2: all digital. You can't beat the system. You can't beat
Speaker 2: dot dot dot. And then in as the machine Missus
Speaker 2: moon shot a white eyed glance at mister Moon. Huh,
Speaker 2: what do you mean, Buster said. Mister Moon shook his head. Oh, nothing,
Speaker 2: you'll have to find out for yourself. And then at
Speaker 2: this point a cow screams. That's how he describes the
Speaker 2: cow as screaming. And then their dog barks and they
Speaker 2: all run outside. It's clear that something has gone wrong,
Speaker 2: and mister Moon says, awe hell not again, those cult
Speaker 2: fucking commie bastards. He grabs a shotgun and there they
Speaker 2: find the exxanguinated and skinned corpse of the family cow
Speaker 2: outside in the yard.
Speaker 3: Because they're at like a farm in Ohio, I.
Speaker 2: Believe, Yeah, they're at like the family farm. So he
Speaker 2: thinks at first that this hide is a carpet. Then
Speaker 2: Buster realized the carpet had black and white spots like
Speaker 2: a cow and was hide material. The cow had been
Speaker 2: completely exsanguinated, as the livestock industry would call an animal
Speaker 2: drained of blood. The cow's eyes were missing, the bones
Speaker 2: were strewn in a perfect circle around the cowhide in
Speaker 2: an almost ritualistic or ceremonial manner, with a skull at
Speaker 2: the top of the circle. Will twelve would be on
Speaker 2: a clock about the same time it was then there
Speaker 2: was not one drop of blood near the scene. Huh. Now,
Speaker 2: when I brought up X files earlier, that's kind of why,
Speaker 2: because that's X files stuff.
Speaker 3: That's a very X files opening. Yeah, the Twilight Zone
Speaker 3: was playing on the TV in the room in the scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And this is obviously, by the way, if you listen
Speaker 2: to a lot of or read a lot of like
Speaker 2: this particularly kind of turn of the last century UFO stuff,
Speaker 2: a lot of it focuses on animals being x sanguinated. Right,
Speaker 2: cow's killed in these like weird fashions. Now he is
Speaker 2: talking about a ritual murder. And also the timing doesn't
Speaker 2: work out because they hear the cow run outside and
Speaker 2: it's been completely skinn and exciting. But well, I think
Speaker 2: what's important is, like you get an idea of like
Speaker 2: this didn't come into his mind unbidden, Right, the term
Speaker 2: exsanguinated as referred to a cow's corpse had not come
Speaker 2: into his mind. And bind that's evidence of like the
Speaker 2: kind of media diet he had, right, I.
Speaker 3: Mean he was born in nineteen ninety one, that's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's prime growing up with the X Files.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah, I mean I'm not that much older
Speaker 2: than him, and that was definitely a big part of
Speaker 2: my childhood. Yeah, but you know what could be a
Speaker 2: big part of your childhood retroactively.
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Speaker 2: childhood can be healed. So here's the at Ah. We're
Speaker 2: back and we're reading from the Second Messiah, King of
Speaker 2: Earth by our friend Justin Mohan.
Speaker 3: So it opened with what I would describe probably as
Speaker 3: it's probably some kind of Satanic ritual, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we get a little more about what his
Speaker 2: dad thinks here because the next thing, but his dad
Speaker 2: starts crying and Buster tries to comfort him, and his
Speaker 2: dad says, a cow that waits nearly a time, Well,
Speaker 2: look the spelling's not perfect. A cow that weighs nearly
Speaker 2: a ton gets completely d of blood and its bones
Speaker 2: and organs are taken out perfectly, without one drop of
Speaker 2: blood being spilled. And it all happens right here in
Speaker 2: the middle of this field in less than an hour,
Speaker 2: maybe even in just a couple of minutes. It's the
Speaker 2: fifth cow this has happened to you this season, and
Speaker 2: Betsy was my best cow. We just won't be able
Speaker 2: to make a profit this year.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: He starts to cry, and then he says, don't tell
Speaker 2: your mother I told you this. But you're right to
Speaker 2: leave this place and go far away. There's nothing for
Speaker 2: you here, and in fact, there's nothing for anyone here.
Speaker 2: So at this point Buster's like, hey, don't say that, dad.
Speaker 2: You know we've still got a farm. It'll be okay,
Speaker 2: And his dad says, oh, Buster, soon you will learn
Speaker 2: if you move out west on your own. There is
Speaker 2: an evil in this world which has found its way
Speaker 2: into this country, into every country. It is an ugly evil.
Speaker 2: Nearly all the family farms in this state and plenty
Speaker 2: of other states, have seen the same trend in the
Speaker 2: past twenty years or so, a trend none of us
Speaker 2: have seen before, unexplainable tragedies. Livestock gets mutilated or disappears,
Speaker 2: Crops get infested with bugs and disease, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the farm is taking a financial loss,
Speaker 2: The farm shrinks, and eventually the family goes bankrupt. Their
Speaker 2: land is bought out by a big corporation. More farmers
Speaker 2: have committed suicide in the past decade than any other
Speaker 2: profession and I can't blame them. Now. That ties into
Speaker 2: some very real and very powerful conspiracy theories that this
Speaker 2: is a lot of this ties into like Bill Gates stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, the idea he has bought up a bunch
Speaker 2: of farmland and among conspiratorial sex he has bought all
Speaker 2: the farmland and China's buying all of it, or China
Speaker 2: and Bill Gates are buying it together, and they want
Speaker 2: to because they want to control the food supply and
Speaker 2: take out the ability of Americans to feed themselves. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like this is a this is something he picked up
Speaker 2: from right wing media. This is not an invention of
Speaker 2: his for this book. This is probably something he was
Speaker 2: either raised to believe or came to believe fairly early
Speaker 2: in life because of what other people around him were saying.
Speaker 2: This is common stuff. He has put a twist on it.
Speaker 2: But this is not coming out of nowhere. So after this,
Speaker 2: he basically tries to talk his dad and like, hey,
Speaker 2: can't you call the FBI or the police or you know,
Speaker 2: surveil them to catch whoever's doing this, And his dad
Speaker 2: says other farmers have tried, they just lose all their
Speaker 2: money faster. And the police and an FBI have investigated.
Speaker 2: But how could they stop something like this from happening
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. I've sold more than half the acres
Speaker 2: of the Moon family farm over the past three years alone,
Speaker 2: and we can still barely stay afloat. There's no fighting it.
Speaker 2: It's too secretive, it's too constant, it's too well orchestrated.
Speaker 2: It's just too evil. But why is this happening? Why
Speaker 2: is the government letting America's farms get unfairly taken over? Well,
Speaker 2: as my father once told me, if you want to
Speaker 2: take over a country, you have to gain control of
Speaker 2: their food supply. Remember, my father was an immigrant from
Speaker 2: Germany and he fled the Nazis with your grandmother, who
Speaker 2: was a Jew, to come to America. He used to
Speaker 2: always say, they are the Germans, there are the Russians,
Speaker 2: and then there are the Germans from Russia, and they
Speaker 2: all came to America for the same reason land.
Speaker 3: And that is Justin's family history, which is also yeah,
Speaker 3: why some Nazis on telegram did not like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very much not a Nazi, And at the
Speaker 2: same time there's elements of like what he's saying here
Speaker 2: that like, yeah, the Germans from Russia that moved here
Speaker 2: very much John Birch stuff that like a fifth column
Speaker 2: of communists from Europe have moved here and are trying
Speaker 2: to change this country. So the conversation ends, he goes
Speaker 2: to sleep. He wakes up the next morning to like
Speaker 2: leave his family forever to start a new life out west.
Speaker 2: And he starts by going out to the farm, taking
Speaker 2: out his pipe and his last bit of marijuana, a
Speaker 2: few green buds that he says to himself, perfectly calculated,
Speaker 2: and then he smokes his last bowl of marijuana, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure he did regularly and certainly did not help
Speaker 2: his hit.
Speaker 3: Justin Mohan did have a medical marijuana card that he
Speaker 3: had to give up on January twenty ninth to go
Speaker 3: a handgun that he would then later use one day
Speaker 3: later to kill his father.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess good that he had to give up
Speaker 2: his medical marijuana card first. Yeah, that's keeping people saying, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: really stop the problem. So he says goodbye to his
Speaker 2: parents and he gets on the road. Right, they seem
Speaker 2: He actually does not describe his dad as being very
Speaker 2: mean in this He's pretty sympathetic in the book. But interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is interesting. But you know, a few years went
Speaker 2: by between this one and between him killing his father.
Speaker 2: So when I brought up earlier that highway rest stops
Speaker 2: are a major part of this book, that's because of
Speaker 2: what comes next. So he crosses from Ohio into Indiana
Speaker 2: and he sees a rest area approaching. Hmm, got a
Speaker 2: piss and wouldn't mind a snack, buster said, He pulls
Speaker 2: off the highway. He gets into a parking lot, and
Speaker 2: he describes most of the men and women wore overalls,
Speaker 2: flannel shirts, and straw hats walking in and out of
Speaker 2: the building to and from the parking lot. A few
Speaker 2: people stood off to the sides of the building in
Speaker 2: parking lot in a grass area. A few men were
Speaker 2: urinating outside near the trees. An old man was squatting
Speaker 2: at the tree line taking a shit. I've never been
Speaker 2: to I've been to a lot of rest sadops. I've
Speaker 2: actually not seen that happening at a rest stop. But
Speaker 2: this is to set up something that's happening at the
Speaker 2: rest stop, which he learns about when he goes into
Speaker 2: the bathroom, and it turns out to be a bad
Speaker 2: decision because as soon as he stands at the urinal,
Speaker 2: he hears someone behind him saying, Oh, yeah, that's real nice.
Speaker 2: Just look at that. You want to try it? Another
Speaker 2: voice whispered. Buster eyed with one eyebrow and raised towards
Speaker 2: the stall in his left four legs stood in the stall,
Speaker 2: and then he hears people snorting drugs and a bit
Speaker 2: of white powder falls to the floor and a guy
Speaker 2: falls down and then is like, oh shit, that's good.
Speaker 2: How much for an ounce? I think they're selling. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if it's supposed to be fentanyl or cocaine, Yeah,
Speaker 2: something like that. And then they realize he's listening to
Speaker 2: them do cocaine or whatever in the rest bathroom. Hold
Speaker 2: on a sec I think someone's in here listening to us.
Speaker 2: The other person whispered, should we kill him? The first
Speaker 2: person whispered, at which point he fleets the rest stop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so quick escalation. This is like such a like to
Speaker 2: take into a humorous degree, but such a like, Oh
Speaker 2: what the Fox News viewing set thinks about, like everything
Speaker 2: outside of their suburbs.
Speaker 3: Justin did not grow up in Ohio. He grew up
Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. I think his family lived about an hour
Speaker 3: north of Philadelphia, so he grew up in a very
Speaker 3: suburban area outside of a big city. And that all
Speaker 3: kind of grafts on to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. Now, there's an interesting bit here
Speaker 2: when he's outside of I guess they decided not to
Speaker 2: chase him out of the bathroom, but he's still walking
Speaker 2: around the rest stop and we get a little like
Speaker 2: gang stalking bit here. People stared at Buster and kept
Speaker 2: glancing at him, and he wondered why he didn't look
Speaker 2: or dressed too differently, and he was barely out of
Speaker 2: Ohio than he realized everyone was with someone else, Nobody
Speaker 2: else was alone except him, And like, that's a delusion.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of delusion leads to gangstig because number one,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you there were other alone people that every
Speaker 2: rest stop he ever went to. But also like people
Speaker 2: don't pay attention to that sort of thing. That is
Speaker 2: a voice in his head telling him to hyper focus
Speaker 2: on this. So he gets freaked out by this. He
Speaker 2: describes himself having a panic attack. Right. He describes like
Speaker 2: having a panic attack about the fact that he's alone
Speaker 2: out here. Now it seemed to more people were glancing
Speaker 2: at him, even talking about him, as if they sensed
Speaker 2: his feeling of vulnerability emanating from his chest like sharp
Speaker 2: smelling fresh blood. So he finishes eating and he gets
Speaker 2: back on the highway and he drives for a bit
Speaker 2: more until he crosses he passes Indiana and gets into Illinois,
Speaker 2: and then he will have another rest stop scene. This
Speaker 2: is like he spends a lot of time on rest stops,
Speaker 2: and this is I'm going to need you're accult knowledge here, Garrison,
Speaker 2: so you can let me know if he gets this
Speaker 2: stuff right. So, as he's like walking through the rest
Speaker 2: stop area, he sees that, like there's a poster on
Speaker 2: the wall that says this cabin was once an outpost
Speaker 2: for trading with the Native Americans, used during the Civil
Speaker 2: War to store guns and ammunition. Then he walks to
Speaker 2: another glass casing on the adjacent wall and he reads
Speaker 2: the poster inside considered haunted by locals after peg and
Speaker 2: witches lived in the cabin, who were later burned at
Speaker 2: the stake for witchcraft. Abandoned for over one hundred years
Speaker 2: before being restored as a rest area. So he's that's
Speaker 2: to set the scene, and then he goes like, gets
Speaker 2: himself some food or something, and as he's looking outside
Speaker 2: at the surrounding forest, he sees one hundred yards into
Speaker 2: the forest there are tiki torches lit. And it's four
Speaker 2: oh one pm in the afternoon. What the fuck do
Speaker 2: they have torches lit in the forest for if it's
Speaker 2: not going to be dark for another two hours, Buster said,
Speaker 2: So he walks in and he sees a few individuals
Speaker 2: dressed like vagabonds, dancing slowly in circles around the fire,
Speaker 2: with their arms spread out waving in the air. Buster
Speaker 2: quietly climbed through some bushes to get a quiet closer look.
Speaker 2: There were two men and a woman, all in dirty
Speaker 2: torn robes, dancing within a circle of lit candles and
Speaker 2: tiki torches. One male and female danced inside the circle,
Speaker 2: chanting and murmuring words which Buster couldn't make out. The
Speaker 2: other male was kneeling on the ground inside the circle,
Speaker 2: carving up pumpkin a picture lay in front of him
Speaker 2: in a bed of flowers. Please, spirits of nature and
Speaker 2: beyond except this pumpkin carving and our sacrifices on this
Speaker 2: day of sam Hayn, in remembrance of our deceased loved ones,
Speaker 2: please ease their passage into the other world. Okay, how's
Speaker 2: that sounding so far, Garrison? Is that real?
Speaker 3: Is this supposed to be around Halloween? Is this supposed
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: It's unclear, but based on the fact that it day
Speaker 2: ends at six pm? Probably yes?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, well yeah, I mean dancing around a
Speaker 3: fire is certainly is certainly fire rest stop.
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, well let's get to the Let's get
Speaker 2: to them finishing the ritual. So next a woman screams
Speaker 2: the magic words iaka I don't know. Looked it up,
Speaker 2: couldn't find anything.
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound familiar to me either, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she screams, and then another female emerged from
Speaker 2: behind a tree with a donkey by a leash in
Speaker 2: one hand and a stick carrying a decorated horse's skull
Speaker 2: on the other. The horse's skull had red ornaments in
Speaker 2: its eye sockets and a sheet draping over its head.
Speaker 2: She danced into the center of the circle of candles
Speaker 2: with the others. The man who was kneeling picked up
Speaker 2: a long curved sword from the ground and stood up.
Speaker 2: Let the sacrifice of this ass please the spirits of nature.
Speaker 2: The man yelled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, this is probably a little bit
Speaker 3: more intense than your average wiccan soven ritual.
Speaker 2: But sure, yeah, yeah, I don't know. And ass that's
Speaker 2: a unique sacrifice story. Usually it's like a cow or
Speaker 2: a chicken or something. But uh huh, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: So he raises the sword above his head. No, buster yelled,
Speaker 2: hehaw the donkey whine. The donkey got scared and jerked away.
Speaker 2: Just as the man swung the sword, slush blood spurted
Speaker 2: upwards and outwards. Ah, the female yelled. The female fell
Speaker 2: to her knees, and the donkey ran away from the forest,
Speaker 2: her severed arm still holding onto the leech. The female
Speaker 2: raised her bleeding stump. You idiot, you cut off my arm,
Speaker 2: she said. Well, the donkey got scared. The man said,
Speaker 2: Now what are we going to eat? The woman said.
Speaker 2: The three others glanced at each other, then looked at
Speaker 2: the woman on the ground with one arm. No, don't
Speaker 2: even think about it, she said. The man holding the
Speaker 2: sword raised it high up his head again. Ah, she screamed. Ah,
Speaker 2: buster screamed. The woman held her remaining arm up just
Speaker 2: as the man swung down the sword. The sword cut
Speaker 2: her hand in half from top to bottom between the
Speaker 2: middle finger and ring finger, slicing all the way down
Speaker 2: her forearm. Now that's that's not where I expected this
Speaker 2: passage to go. But it gets better because they all
Speaker 2: realize Buster's there at this point and give up on
Speaker 2: their plans to eat this woman, who they have now
Speaker 2: hacked at twice, and instead she and all of them
Speaker 2: start charging Buster. And he describes it as they all
Speaker 2: turned directly towards Buster and began ranning towards him. Even
Speaker 2: the woman with one arm, which was divided in half
Speaker 2: like a lobster claw, ran towards Buster, her arm flapping
Speaker 2: in halves as she sprinted towards him.
Speaker 3: That is an interesting writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I didn't call that coming. I love that. Yes,
Speaker 2: she got lobster afied.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very eventful Sawin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh uh. I don't think that actually happened to Buster.
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I don't believe. On Justin's move
Speaker 3: from Pennsylvania to Colorado, he stumbled across a pagan ritual
Speaker 3: where they dis meant a woman and gave her a
Speaker 3: lobster claw.
Speaker 2: I do suspect that maybe he saw someone walking their
Speaker 2: dog near a rest stop and filled in the.
Speaker 3: Rest That is certainly possible.
Speaker 2: Speaking of dog shit, you know what's not dog shit?
Speaker 3: These ads?
Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's right, these ads.
Speaker 3: Aren't we sponsored by like the state of Ohio or something?
Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah, then in that case we probably should
Speaker 2: just move on. Ah, we are back and having a
Speaker 2: really good time learning some more about our old friend
Speaker 2: justin moan So Garrison. At this point, he he flees
Speaker 2: from the Wickanists and their d handed friend and he
Speaker 2: gets back on the road again. Doesn't seem to call
Speaker 2: the police over this, but I guess they probably were
Speaker 2: in on it to what could the police have done
Speaker 2: about people dismembering a woman directly next to a crowded
Speaker 2: highway rest stop. So he decides he gets to Saint
Speaker 2: Louis he needs to find a place to eat. He
Speaker 2: finds a cheap Italian restaurant and he parallel parked at
Speaker 2: the curb. Uh buster walked inside the restaurant into the counter.
Speaker 2: A small man stood beside the counter with a thick
Speaker 2: Italian accent. I make a good pie for you like
Speaker 2: you find on the East Coast. Yeah, no, West Coast,
Speaker 2: and then he uses a slur for gay people stuff. Okay, no, good,
Speaker 2: thank you. Buster said, you ain't a slur, are you?
Speaker 2: The man said no, sir. Buster said you sure you
Speaker 2: don't don't want us some pineapples on this with no
Speaker 2: red sauce, all white and a cheesy stuffed crust. Huh,
Speaker 2: And then he calls him a slur again. No, very stereotypical,
Speaker 2: but also big in an Italian chef character here.
Speaker 3: You know, I actually ate at an Italian rush joted
Speaker 3: Saint Louis last year. I was not accosted for being gay.
Speaker 2: But that's good. That's good. Did your guy have a
Speaker 2: comedic Italian accent?
Speaker 3: No? I think I was being served by a lesbian.
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, well that's probably why.
Speaker 3: That's probably why.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Buster tells him that he just wants a
Speaker 2: plane pizza, and the pizza man is willing to serve him,
Speaker 2: but he does use the slur again. At this point,
Speaker 2: two men barged into the restaurant wearing long black pea coats,
Speaker 2: black pants and shoes, and black fedoras. I already paid
Speaker 2: my d space.
Speaker 3: Here we go. This is this is what I was
Speaker 3: signing up for this is rough. Stops are fine, This
Speaker 3: is what I wanted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I already paid my dues. Boys, the man behind
Speaker 2: the counter said. The man behind the counter spun pizza
Speaker 2: dough in one hand. Look tony unpazzo con pizza, one
Speaker 2: man said. The other man in the Fedora laughs. The
Speaker 2: old fool thinks we're here to collect dues, so what
Speaker 2: the hell do you want a fucking pizza for it?
Speaker 2: He just keeps using that he can't he cannot mention
Speaker 2: pizza with that, dropping a slur. I am, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what. I'm not sympathetic towards this Italian man's plight.
Speaker 2: Both men and Fedoras laughed hysterically and turned towards Buster.
Speaker 2: They lifted their pea coats and revealed Thompson's submachine guns.
Speaker 2: A can't tell me guns. Those are so much more
Speaker 2: expensive than modern crime guns. Why are they spending thirty three?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Where? Oh it's good stuff, like in Chicago, baby,
Speaker 3: in Saint Louis, of course, Chicago, Come on St. Louis,
Speaker 3: let's so you're real here.
Speaker 2: The men never explain why they're killing this guy, but
Speaker 2: as Buster's eyes, buddy, yeah, yeah, these are the these
Speaker 2: are the LGBT police. So they they opened fire. They
Speaker 2: each empty one hundred bullets towards the man behind the counter.
Speaker 2: Then they turned to you saw nothing, kid, nothing got it?
Speaker 2: The man said, I didn't see Shitbusters said, oh my god.
Speaker 2: So the bigoted pizza man has been shot full of
Speaker 2: holes and honestly, I'm fine. Must just leaves and goes
Speaker 2: back to his car.
Speaker 3: He finds what a fascinating thing to include the story, like.
Speaker 2: It's He's making a lot of choices here. I wish
Speaker 2: I could ask him about some of his process, like
Speaker 2: why did the pizza man have to be stereotypically Italian?
Speaker 2: Why did the gangsters have to carry a gun that
Speaker 2: has been outdated for nearly one hundred years. Anyway, he
Speaker 2: goes to a cheap Asian restaurant next, and again parallel
Speaker 2: parks at the curve. He really wants us to know
Speaker 2: that he can parallel park. This is this is something
Speaker 2: he's made a point of several times.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Garrison, I'm not excited to try to read you.
Speaker 2: The next line, a small man stood behind the counter
Speaker 2: with a thick Chinese accent.
Speaker 3: Nope, nope, you can do Italian.
Speaker 2: I am not gonna try this. What's important, you know,
Speaker 2: is that he says the same thing as the Italian man.
Speaker 2: I make it racistly, but he says, I'll make you
Speaker 2: good food like you get on the East coast, no
Speaker 2: West coast. And then he also uses the same slur,
Speaker 2: and then he asks several more times about it and
Speaker 2: repeatedly calls him a slur. I don't understand why they
Speaker 2: are both the same person, but the same two men
Speaker 2: in long black pea coats fedoras come in and then
Speaker 2: they shoot this guy repeatedly.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, yeah, that's actually more interesting that this whole
Speaker 3: instant gets repeated. Just a slightly different cultural backing it is.
Speaker 2: It is compelling, right, and again the guys like you
Speaker 2: saw nothing. But then they're like, oh, hey, aren't you
Speaker 2: the same kid from the other restaurant where we just
Speaker 2: machine gun demand and Buster, showing admirable bravery here says, yeah,
Speaker 2: what's going on? I'm just trying to find something to eat,
Speaker 2: and the mafia man very nicely explains, oi, kid, every
Speaker 2: restaurant in Saint Louis is owned by the same gang.
Speaker 2: That's why they all say the same script when you
Speaker 2: walk in. But we're taking over their racket and we're
Speaker 2: taking over the restaurant business in Saint Louis. So that's
Speaker 2: why both the Chinese man and the Italian man said
Speaker 2: the same things. Is they have a script. Oh wow, huh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's compelling coming. Yeah. So so Buster stops at a
Speaker 2: gas station to get a pre made tuna sand which, which,
Speaker 2: to be honest, seems like the decision to make after
Speaker 2: after going of these Yeah. So he winds up driving
Speaker 2: again through the countryside. He approaches Columbia, in between Saint
Speaker 2: Louis and Kansas City, and he asks a guy if
Speaker 2: he can use a public restroom. Yes, sir, just take
Speaker 2: this here key, witches so you can get in the door.
Speaker 2: The man held a key up towards Buster.
Speaker 3: Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2: The man laughed. Odd way to write laughter, not how
Speaker 2: laughter sounds. Buster walked up to the man and took
Speaker 2: the key. Thanks. Buster said, we'll say, mister, you're not
Speaker 2: from around here? Is yeah, I don't recognize you. The
Speaker 2: man said, no, I'm just passing through. Buster said, you're
Speaker 2: making your way to Kansas City, Yes, sir, Well you
Speaker 2: better be careful. There are abandons on that bridge that
Speaker 2: goes over the Missouri rivers sometimes at night. Now that's
Speaker 2: not true.
Speaker 3: But also I I did run into bandits on my okay, okay,
Speaker 3: on my road trip through uh through uh Kansas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's been a couple of years for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Saint Louis, Yeah, no, it was. It was intense.
Speaker 2: So Buster's like, that's great, I'm gonna use the bathroom anyway,
Speaker 2: and the man says, I'll be watching you, and so
Speaker 2: Buster says, okay, maybe I won't go, and then the
Speaker 2: man yells, I was gonna suck your dick. So I
Speaker 2: think we've gotten a good picture of what's going on
Speaker 2: with this guy. I'm not really sure why. It's interesting,
Speaker 2: Like even the absurd he does have kind of its roots.
Speaker 2: And you can see some of these this like everybody
Speaker 2: is programmed, like saying the same script or whatever, like
Speaker 2: they're the Like that's why these interactions seem weird to me,
Speaker 2: is that like, this isn't real people talking to me.
Speaker 2: These are people reading from a script. It's all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can kind of tie it all back to some
Speaker 2: of the delusional thinking I want cities.
Speaker 3: Are these like lawless zones?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there's bandits on the road and people just
Speaker 2: getting machine gunned in there in their restaurants. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: this book ends. One of the last chapters about this
Speaker 2: is the FBI and the CIA electrocuting Buster and asking
Speaker 2: him questions. They're making him specifically, they want him to
Speaker 2: tell them their sins, right, because he's the second Messiah,
Speaker 2: because he's the second Messiah, so one of the masks,
Speaker 2: and they seem to know everything about his entire life, right,
Speaker 2: which is again kind of ties back to the delusion.
Speaker 2: So one of them is like, what about the time
Speaker 2: you were drunken through a punching a guy who wasn't
Speaker 2: looking during a group fight in college? Not really sure
Speaker 2: what a group fight in college is, but we can
Speaker 2: move right past that. What about all the cigarettes you've smoked,
Speaker 2: an acid you've taken, and mushrooms in ecstasy and all
Speaker 2: the other drugs you did. I only did them a
Speaker 2: couple of times. It's not like I'm an addict. Still
Speaker 2: serious damage to the body and putting your life at risk.
Speaker 2: CIA is very concerned about his overall health.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the CIA famously on the edge about us things
Speaker 3: like at Las.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this goes on for a while and then
Speaker 2: the CIA agent leaves and FBI agents put him into
Speaker 2: a black suv and drive him to Andrews Air Force Base.
Speaker 2: The FBI agents wheeled Buster onto an Air Force one
Speaker 2: and Air Force one jet also air force is one word,
Speaker 2: and got on board with him. Then the jet took off.
Speaker 2: By the time the jet landed in Moscow, Russia, Buster
Speaker 2: no longer shook constantly, but every once in a while
Speaker 2: he had a full body jerk. The FBI agents wheeled
Speaker 2: him off the plane. Two Russian FSB agents waited on
Speaker 2: the bottom of the ramp. The FBI agents nodded to
Speaker 2: the FSB agents, who nodded back. Then the FBI agents
Speaker 2: got back on board the jet. The FSB agents wheeled
Speaker 2: Buster to a black rectangular suv and put him inside.
Speaker 2: Then they drove to the Krimlin. Buster sat in a
Speaker 2: wheelchair In the Krimlin. He was motionless, stared off into
Speaker 2: the distance at nothing, and his jaw hung. Suddenly his
Speaker 2: entire body jerked, then he went back to being still.
Speaker 2: The President of Russia walked up to Buster. King Moon
Speaker 2: there is an uprising for more food in several parts
Speaker 2: of Southeast Asia. The President of Russia said, Gohea. Buster chuckled,
Speaker 2: but do you recommend Zig Global Communist Confederation. Due to
Speaker 2: your majesty, The President of Russia said, go he he.
Speaker 2: Buster chuckled. Buster stared off into the distance. Sill genocide.
Speaker 2: The President of Russia said, yeah, heh, I love that.
Speaker 2: Buster smiled. The President of Russia turned around to face
Speaker 2: representatives from countries all over the world. Kills them all.
Speaker 2: Orders directly from ze King of Earth, the President of
Speaker 2: Russia said. Fighters, jets and bombers from the United Global
Speaker 2: Force of China, Russia, America, and Europe flew over Southeast Asia,
Speaker 2: dropping bombs on every country, destroying every main city, burning
Speaker 2: forests and villages, and killing hundreds of millions of people.
Speaker 2: And that's how the book ends.
Speaker 3: So I am fascinated about this middle chunk where he's
Speaker 3: where he goes to Colorado and uncovers a satanic conspiracy
Speaker 3: involving the Democratic Party. But that end bit kind of
Speaker 3: got me thinking about there was all of these like
Speaker 3: like all these like artistic things he was doing that
Speaker 3: was almost preparing himself to do an acti violence against
Speaker 3: a family member. But as much as that was the
Speaker 3: future he was building for himself. You also mentioned that
Speaker 3: he was being transported around by the FBI, and like,
Speaker 3: I wonder how much that was a part of the
Speaker 3: future he was building for himself. Like now that he's
Speaker 3: arrested at a National Guard base, he's now being taken
Speaker 3: from place to place by government officials. He's constantly now
Speaker 3: surrounded by Feds, like he has he has built the
Speaker 3: reality for himself that now he is actually always watched
Speaker 3: by the government because he's been arrested for doing this
Speaker 3: things like he is. He has created this fantasy world
Speaker 3: that he can now live in forever. Yeah, whether he
Speaker 3: goes to trial, he's probably gonna I if his defense
Speaker 3: is smart, they'll do some sort of insanity defense. He'll
Speaker 3: be sent to a psychiatric place. Like he's now always
Speaker 3: going to be watched, he is being moved around by
Speaker 3: government agents, like he is living the thing that he
Speaker 3: was writing about. And I find that that second half
Speaker 3: of like him being caught also a compelling like a
Speaker 3: compelling thing that he was preparing himself for.
Speaker 2: And it I mean he is he expresses repeatedly variations
Speaker 2: of like because the FBI and the CIA are constantly
Speaker 2: in this book, and also like constantly just like people
Speaker 2: coming into his life around him, which again is part
Speaker 2: of this delusion. But also you can see how a
Speaker 2: lot of these common right wing tropes about like everything
Speaker 2: is infiltrated by the Feds January sixth with the Federal
Speaker 2: op and stuff. How this is also going to feed
Speaker 2: into the delusions of a guy like this, right, like
Speaker 2: he's very much this is very much ripped from the headlines,
Speaker 2: and that you can see how things he was encounter
Speaker 2: and like conspiracy culture and popular media grafted themselves on
Speaker 2: to the delusions that he had. Yeah, you can also
Speaker 2: see I turned randomly to a page I haven't gotten
Speaker 2: to yet in this book two sixty and the first
Speaker 2: line I saw in the middle of the page is,
Speaker 2: let's fucking kill them and then eat them a midget
Speaker 2: and a wheelchair, yelled, holding an RPG.
Speaker 3: So there's quite a lot in this book, All right, Well,
Speaker 3: well then I don't know.
Speaker 2: What the line of good taste and is, Like I
Speaker 2: think it's I don't think we'll keep going back to this.
Speaker 2: I felt justified and like, well, I want to know
Speaker 2: what's in this thing once. It seems kind of bad
Speaker 2: to keep doing that with this guy who murdered people's book.
Speaker 2: But man, there's a lot in here.
Speaker 3: Oh, and there is a use in understanding how these
Speaker 3: people think and unpacking the sorts of large, large swaths
Speaker 3: of content that people that are doing these mass acts
Speaker 3: of violence or very targeted acts of violence have been
Speaker 3: leaving online because it allows you to actually get a
Speaker 3: better look at overarching patterns. Specifically, his songs for me
Speaker 3: are are very very evident of that. Yeah, Like they're
Speaker 3: very similar to a lot of stuff you were you
Speaker 3: were reading the book, like he has the The song
Speaker 3: about him being tracked on his phone is called they
Speaker 3: came for Justin Moan. Yeah, they found him all alone,
Speaker 3: they tracked him on his phone. He talks about the
Speaker 3: student loans that he couldn't pay off, the payments made
Speaker 3: him grown, money controlled his life. They wanted him to
Speaker 3: die just like this, all all of just all this stuff.
Speaker 3: They said he was God. They came for Justin Moan. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's it's it's not to like laugh
Speaker 3: at him necessarily, it's it's about actually understanding this and yeah,
Speaker 3: this is all fucked up. So a part of a
Speaker 3: coping mechanism is kind of laughing at some of the
Speaker 3: more ridiculous elements, but it's it is. It is an
Speaker 3: attempt to actually understand this, this growing trend in American culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't just like and this is the
Speaker 2: thing that the right often once it wants to do
Speaker 2: with this, is like, well, this is just a mental
Speaker 2: illness problem, and like, no, it's not like you have
Speaker 2: to understand it's American culture. Yeah, what's going into people's heads,
Speaker 2: even if they also have, you know, are mentally ill,
Speaker 2: what's going into their heads what they believe about the
Speaker 2: world influences how they act on those delusions and the
Speaker 2: nature of those delusions.
Speaker 3: This is what happens to your brain when it entirely
Speaker 3: becomes corrupted by the culture of war like this is.
Speaker 3: This has now taken over his entire method of thinking.
Speaker 3: This is the only way you can see the world.
Speaker 3: And there's people who are paid to get people to
Speaker 3: be like this, like this is this is people's whole
Speaker 3: job is to get more and more people to only
Speaker 3: think in these terms. Yeah, and this is one of
Speaker 3: the results of that, of that effort by elements of
Speaker 3: the American right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, it's bad.
Speaker 3: That'll be a good book to explain to a young
Speaker 3: child in fifty years. Why why is this on your bookshelf. Well,
Speaker 3: let me tell you they've just in mode.
Speaker 2: If I ever have a kid, Garrison, this will be
Speaker 2: the first book they rate.
Speaker 3: Nobody.
Speaker 2: Well, let's uh, let's be done, Let's let's go away, goodbye.
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