1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Introducing Hashtag Matter, a brand new eight episode scripted podcast. Michelle, Okay, yeah, 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: come on here. And last night I was thinking about 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: canceling all you. And it's not that I don't want 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: to do this, it's just a lot to revisit. Everything 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: has happened, response happening, Thank you. We already responded to 6 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: that location in response to a shoot You're gonna point. 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: A little over twelve months ago, an eighteen year old 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: African American young man named Niles Hayes was driving a 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: family friends luxury vehicle when he was stopped for a 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: routine traffic violation. Things escalate quickly. Now his father, Gerald Hayes, 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: sees his son in peril and instinctively rushes into the 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: fray to protect him from Shonda land Audio in partnership 13 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. I'm author and journalist Kate Bell, 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: and this is hashtag matter. Within hours of the police stop, 15 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: footage of the entire altercation between Niles and the investing 16 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: officers gets posted online and it goes viral. Gerald is 17 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: a hero for taking madis into his own hands. And 18 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: if you can't see that, then I'm not working with you. 19 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm Colleen Sanders and We're here live from the Los 20 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: Angeles Valley outside of Jace's forty two sports bar and Grill, 21 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: where a carjacking suspect opened fire on police, leaving one 22 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: officer dead and the second officer wounded. This case presented 23 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: a lot of challenges from the start. Once the HTS 24 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: retreated into the building, the standoff had begun. You got 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: the whole l a p D outside of my building 26 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: ready to light in hire block up. I mean, any 27 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: number of outcomes could have happened if different choices were made. Doctor, Doctor, 28 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: I guess what I am struggling with. Come, okay, you 29 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: struggle with it because you live in a different reality 30 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: than we do. So let me ask you something. If 31 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: a man sees his child getting beat down in the 32 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: street like a dog, what is a man supposed to do? 33 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: From now on? We gotta do something different. If we 34 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: really want to understand what went on that day, we 35 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: have to get into Gerald's head. And in order to 36 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: do this right, the first thing we have to do 37 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: is go back to the beginning, the part you don't know. 38 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Hashtag Matter premieres February nine on the I Heart Radio app, 39 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast,