1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, the Final four edition. The Bengals have 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: four games left in the regular season, including a road 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: game this Sunday against the nine and three Los Angeles Chargers. 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Is it me or will Los Angeles Chargers never sound right? 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: We'll get you set for the matchup. Here's what's coming up. 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: My broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins me to discuss several 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: hot button topics, including the Bengals use of Joe Mixon, 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: what it's like for the players when your head coach 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: is under fire, and if the Bengals defensive personnel simply 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: isn't as good as we thought, and I know the 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: faux segment. This week, we'll talk to Chargers beat reporter 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Sam forty, a who has all sorts of good nuggets 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: from being around the Chargers on a daily basis, and 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: we'll have a one on one conversation with Andy Dalton 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: about the injury that ended his season and his future 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: with the Bengals. All of that is straight ahead, but first, 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, or pod Bean. 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: It's the greatest invention since the cast iron skillet. They 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: heat evenly, they're naturally non stick, they're the best pan 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: to give your food a good seer, and they're easy 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: to clean. In case you can't tell, I'm a big 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: fan of the cast iron skillet. Now let's get to football. 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: The La Chargers are hot. The Bengals are not. The 27 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Chargers have won eight of their last nine, and they're 28 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: only lost during that stretch was by one point to Denver. 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: The Bengals have dropped four in a row in six 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: of their last seven, and the Bengals defense is in 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: danger of joining a list that nobody would have imagined 32 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals being part of at the start of the season. 33 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: There have only been five teams in history that have 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: allowed an average of thirty or more points a game 35 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: and four hundred or more yards a game. The two 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: sixteen forty nine Ers, two thousand and eight Lions, nineteen 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: eighty one Colts, nineteen fifty one Yankees, Yes there was 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: a New York Yankees football franchise had folded at the 39 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: end of that season, and the nineteen fifty colts. Right now, 40 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals would make it six teams. They are allowing 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: thirty point nine points and four hundred thirty three yards. 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: Both figures rank last in the NFL. Defense is where 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: I began my conversation with Dave lapham Lap. In two fifteen, 44 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals finished number two in the NFL and scoring 45 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: defense at seventeen point four points a game. Since then, 46 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: they have dropped to eighth in twenty sixteen, still good, 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: sixteenth last year, middle of the pack, dead last with 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: four games to go this year? Do we tend to 49 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: think that the Bengals defensive personnel is better than it 50 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: really is? You know, I think that's a tendency that 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: everybody has. You know that they if your fans and 52 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: close to your team, you think that your players sometimes 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: are better than other people around the league might think. Now, 54 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Geno Atkins, I think is universally regarded as a disruptor, 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: a destroyer in the interior of a defense, and it's 56 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: it's well earned, and I think he is that guy. 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: I think part of their problem is though, that not 58 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: only are they underperforming physicals, they're just not getting lined 59 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: up right. You know. It's it's there. They're not gap sound, 60 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: even on alignment sometimes and until that's solved, and I 61 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: can't understand why it can't be solved. I just don't 62 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: get it. Why every week it's the same problem over 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: and over and over again. And that's in that situation 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you're even the offense an immediate win. I mean, you 65 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: can't win snaps when you're improperly aligned. It's you're given 66 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: too much of an advantage. I don't care if you have, 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, superheroes at every every defensive position. So they've 68 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: got they've got to get that part of it right. 69 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: And the little tidbit this week, you know, for me, 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: is one hundred and sixty seven points allowed in the 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: second quarter, the most points allowed in any quarter by 72 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: any team. Marvin Lewis was a defensive coordinator, a record 73 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: holder with the Baltimore Ravens. In the year two thousand, 74 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: they allowed one hundred and sixty five in sixteen games. 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals of allowed one hundred and sixty seven and 76 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: one quarter of twelve football games. It is ridiculous. It's 77 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: mind boggling, it really is. And that's that's their second 78 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: quarter is just killing them. And by the way looking 79 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: at this matchup. Charges in the second quarter, they scored 80 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four. They've i'll scored the pe 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four to fifty one. They're plus 82 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: seventy three in the second quarter. That's the best quarter. 83 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Here we go in surviving the second quarter. But it 84 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: is dan it. I think I think that guys should 85 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: be humbled. But it's about time that they whatever, it's whatever, 86 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: the reason is that they keep aligning themselves, improperly, hitting 87 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: him the absent, properly doing things that aren't supposed to 88 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: be done. It's got to stop. I mean, it's got 89 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: to stop. It's it's embarrassing to watch it. It really is. 90 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: We don't know Marvin Lewis's fate. Mike Brown will obviously 91 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: have the final say, and if history has taught us anything, 92 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: the last four games of the season will have an impact. 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: But lap, I want to go back to nineteen seventy nine, 94 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: your sixth NFL season. Homer Rice was the coach and 95 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: at this point of the season, the Bengals were two 96 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: and ten and people were undoubtedly calling for his head. 97 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: How does it affect the players when the public has 98 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: turned against the head coach. Yeah, and biggest memory that 99 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: season for me is Homer Rice getting on the intercom 100 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: system and begging guys to show up to the meetings. 101 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: You're now ten minutes late, please report to the wide 102 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: receiver room. Like what I mean, that was a huge 103 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: mistake that that might be one of the only mistakes 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I think Paul Paul Brown might have made naming Homer 105 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Rice the interim head coach and then keeping him, you know, 106 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: the following we started oh and eighth that year. And 107 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned this before. I can vividly remember driving into 108 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: my neighborhood at night with my headlights out so neighbors 109 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't detect I was there, and I remember saying to 110 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: my five year old son, take the rubbish down to 111 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the curb. You know, I'm not going out there and here. 112 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, It's like I didn't want to go anywhere 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: be seen by anybody. And that's that's really if you 114 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: have pride in your job, I mean, you're a laughing stock. 115 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: That's there's nothing worse than that, nothing worse than that 116 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: at all. And all you have is each other. And 117 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: and again there's some guys that are going to fight 118 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: no matter what. There are guys that are going to quit. 119 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: There are front runners. You find out who your front 120 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: runs are right away. You find out who your you know, 121 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: real pros are right away in situations like this, and 122 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: you know all you have is each other. Do you 123 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: rally around your coach or not? They rallied around Marvin 124 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: last year with the two wins to knock playoff teams out, 125 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: and it brought it brought Marvin back. What are they 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: going to do this year? It's going to be interesting 127 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: to see how it all onlines. The Bengals are an 128 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: organization that relies on drafting and developing players, and by 129 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: and large they've drafted well. But the two fifteen draft 130 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: looks like a disaster. Cedrico Boyhe, Jake Fisher, and p J. 131 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Dawson remember him. We're all taken to the first three 132 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: rounds that haven't panned out. The only players taken in 133 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: that draft that have done okay are tight ends Tyler 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Croft and c. J Uzama. How much did the twenty 135 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: fifteen draft set back the franchise heard it big time, Dan, 136 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: There's no question, you know, look at the offensive line 137 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: that they started the season with this year. They had 138 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: to trade for a tackle to play left side, Paim 139 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: eleven million bucks a year and sign a veteran free 140 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: agent from the New York Giants, Bobby Hart and the 141 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: other because they were over two drafting tackles in that 142 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: particular draft. And that's the thing. A lot of times, 143 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: if a team needs a corner, you know, they don't 144 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: just draft one. They'll draft a couple because you know, 145 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you lessen the operator or the chance that you're gonna 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: have a disaster if one doesn't pan out. You don't 147 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: have a plan B. They went, they draft the two 148 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: of them, you know, and uh, and neither one of 149 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: them at this point have done anything. Fisher more so 150 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: injury a boy, he just deciding, you know, he's not 151 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: going to do it anymore. He's basically shut it down. 152 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: The thing about citrical boy, he that bothers me as 153 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: a former player. If it doesn't work with your first 154 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: offensive line coach and then you get a chance with 155 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: a second one, it doesn't work there, at some point 156 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: go to the coach and say, you know what, obviously 157 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not doing something right. You know what is it 158 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: that I need to do to make myself a good 159 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: football player in your eyes? To improve myself and crickets. 160 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: He's never done it to me that that's an indicator 161 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: that wears his heart. Where's his head? Is he really 162 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: interested in being a pro in this foot in National 163 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Football League? So but yeah, it was crippling, and I 164 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: mean it's rare you go over for three or the 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: track work of this team has It's well documented that 166 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: has more draft picks in the National Football League, not 167 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: just with their franchise, but all franchises picking players up 168 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: and everything. The Bengals drafting players initially coming in the 169 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: league by that route, there were more of those in 170 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: the National Football League than anybody else has. So they've 171 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: done a remarkable job. But that that draft was a 172 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: tough one and it did set him back because when 173 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: you're still trying to figure out who's going to play 174 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: at tacle position to handle the edge rushers, which is 175 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: a big deal in this era of the NFL, that's 176 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: tough dynamic right there. Despite missing two games, Joe Mixon 177 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: is twelfth in the NFL and rushing with seven hundred 178 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: and fifty five yards and he's averaging four point nine 179 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: yards per attempt, which is excellent. So why isn't he 180 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: carry the ball at least twenty times a game. Very frustrating. 181 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: I know it's frustrating for Joe, and I'm sure it's 182 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: frustrating for his position coach, and I'm sure it's frustrating 183 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: for the offensive coordinator because he's probably thinking, you know, 184 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: I want to do it, but then doesn't do it, because, 185 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: particularly in this last game, aj Green went down early. 186 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Your best offensive player on the football field at that 187 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: point is Joe Mixon. Feed twenty eight. Put the ball 188 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: in his belly. Throw it to him in space. He 189 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: should have a myriad of touches, you know, twenty rushes, 190 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: at least five more opportunities in the passing game. He 191 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: got to take care of your best player, however you 192 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: do it, however you want to scheme it up, however 193 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: you want to design it. I know the penalties became 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: an issue. You know, there were runs that he had 195 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: that were negated by holding penalties. And now it's you know, 196 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: now it's first and twenty instead of first and ten. 197 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: Harder run the football. I know all those things occurred. 198 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: But even with that said, at some point you still 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: have to get the ball in his belly. And the 200 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: other part of it is we talked about before another 201 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: one of your very talented offensive players with the injury 202 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: hits that you've taken at tight end and receiver and 203 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: quarterback and everywhere. Now is Giovanni Bernard making your slot receiver. 204 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: He made a nice catch out of the slot for him. 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: That's what we were crying about as soon as he 206 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: came back to the team. Two of your best offensive 207 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: players at the running back position. You know, New Orleans 208 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: can deploy to him, and Kansas City's deployed to him, 209 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: and people are doing it. Do it. But Feature twenty eight. 210 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: I would much rather be accused of force feeding Joe 211 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: Mixon than not giving him enough the ball enough. I 212 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: would rather have fans complaining, man, you know the running 213 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: game is not there. Quit giving it to Joe Mixon. 214 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I'd rather have that at this stage in the state 215 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: this football teams in than having fans saying, man, you've 216 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: got to give Joe Mixon the ball more. I mean, 217 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: I'd err on the side of here you go again, 218 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Joe and again and again, because at some point he's 219 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna bust one for twenty five thirty five forty yards. 220 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: He's that talent. He runs hard. Every chance to give him. 221 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: He'll reward you. He'll he'll never give you half effort. 222 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Where you say, man, I shouldn't have given him the football, 223 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: He's going to say, thanks for giving me the ball. 224 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: And I'm going with aj Green joining a list. The 225 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Bengals are up to fifteen players on injured reserve, including 226 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: three Pro Bowlers. Here's my question for you this week. 227 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: What's the worst injury you ever witnessed in person? The 228 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: Tim crumb Rye injury. Just to watch his legs snap 229 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: like that, I mean both both bones, the tibia and 230 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: fibula snap right above his ankle, right below his knee, 231 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: so it was just flapping in the wind. I mean, 232 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: just to see that, And honestly, having practiced against Tim 233 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Crumbrye and knowing the power of that man and the 234 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: dogged determination of that man, and watching him play and 235 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: do the things that he did as a player, I 236 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: literally thought it was instructible. So it shocked me to 237 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: see something like that happened to a guy that was 238 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: so frequenthly strong and physical and from football standpoint, so 239 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: it was stunning in so many ways. And I know 240 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: it had an impact on the football team. When you're 241 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: when you're lead dog. I mean the guy that nobody 242 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: can beat. Tim Crumrye goes down to with an injury 243 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: like that, it can be a devastating thing. So I think, 244 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, emotionally, spiritually, physically, every way that it can 245 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: impact you. I know it impacted me that way. And 246 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: I remember Merlin Olson. I was talking to Merlin Olson 247 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: did that game with Edinburgh, and I remember talking to 248 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Merlin Olson about it, and he said, I couldn't watch 249 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: it the replay. I watched it once and I said 250 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: on the air, if those of you that have weak stomach, 251 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: you might want to turn away. He goes, I didn't 252 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: want to watch it anymore. I said, I know. I 253 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: felt the same way. I couldn't believe that his leg 254 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: did what it did. It's it's amazing, but it just 255 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: goes to show you the power what you're dealing with 256 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know that all the all the 257 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: moisture was sucked out of I field. His foot went 258 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: in like a like a beach umbrella into the sand 259 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: and planted, and he tried to tork and make a 260 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: tackle in his power, in the power of the running 261 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: back and all that force, you know, his leg would 262 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: just snapped it. It snapped it like was toothpicks. It's 263 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: crazy how powerful that game can be. The Bengals faced 264 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: one of the NFL's hottest teams this week, the La Chargers, 265 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: winners of eight of their last night, including a thrilling 266 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: come from behind win in Pittsburgh last Sunday night, and lapped. 267 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: The thing that stood out to me watching that game 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: was how many times quarterback Philip Rivers knew he was 269 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: about to get hit and still stood there and delivered 270 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: a great throw just before getting drilled. Field general extraordinary 271 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: heart and soul of the football team. He's so tough, 272 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: he's tough minded, he's tough physically to do what they did. 273 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: They're down sixteen and a half. It's the first time 274 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: in franchise history Pittsburgh lost a sixteen point lead at home. 275 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: There were one hundred and seventy four wins no losses 276 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: in the tie, so the one hundred and seventy six 277 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: time they finally get a loss. But the toughness that 278 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: it takes mentally, physically, emotionally to do that, as we 279 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: know at that place, is unbelievable. And when your quarterback 280 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: is doing that, that inspires everybody. The offensive lineman know 281 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: what's happening. Defense is watching and saying, man, look at 282 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: our quarterback. Man, I gotta play harder. I got to 283 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: do a little bit more here. Look at our quarterbacks doing. 284 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he fueled that furnace. There's no question about it. 285 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Philip Rivers is the best trash talking quarterback 286 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I mean he will. He doesn't cuss 287 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: guys out because you know that's against his religion. Literally, 288 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: he's a very religious man. But this guy, he will, 289 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: he'll challenge you. He just gets in your face. I 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: mean it's it's like he's a defensive player playing the 291 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: quarterback position the way he gets after people. And man, 292 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: how about Philip Rivers. His wife's pregnant with his ninth child. 293 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: She's got to be tough too. That's a tough household 294 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: right there, Thanks Lap. With eight kids and a ninth 295 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: on the way, Philip and Tiffany Rivers elected to keep 296 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: their home and say and diego, meaning that Philip has 297 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: about a ninety minute commute each way to get to 298 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: and from practice. To make that tolerable, Rivers spent two 299 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand bucks on a custom made suv with a 300 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: forty inch TV, satellite, dish, WiFi, and refrigerator. He calls 301 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: it his mobile man Cave. For more on Rivers and 302 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers, it's time for this week's No The Faux segment. 303 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Sam Fortyer covers the Chargers for The Athletic and joined 304 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Lapping me on the Bengals Game Plan Show, where I 305 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: started our conversation by asking him if we should look 306 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: at the Chargers as a legitimate Super Bowl contender. I 307 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: think that they have established themselves as a legitimate postseason player. 308 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: I know that's that's not as attractive as maybe super 309 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Bowl contender. Obviously, I think he has to go to 310 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots and Chiefs. Those are the two heavyweights in 311 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: the ASC right now. But the Chargers last weekend scored 312 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: twenty three un answered to erase a twenty seven depths 313 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: and a half time in Pittsburgh, became the first team 314 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: ever to win Athletes Field when the Steelers had built 315 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: a fourteen point lead. So I think this team, they 316 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: have Joey Bosa back, now they're running. You know, they're 317 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: operating well on offense. They won that game in Pittsburgh 318 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: without running back Melvin Gordon. I think they have established 319 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: themselves as a serious threat coming out of the ASC 320 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: the city of Los Angeles. What if the Rams make 321 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and the Chargers make the Super Bowl, 322 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: I know there's a fight for LA going on. The 323 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Rams are the sexy, you know, spent a lot of 324 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: money in the offseason, get a lot of players. The 325 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Chargers kind of stood Pat Moore in terms of that, 326 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: although they did make some major improvements. I mean, Pouncey 327 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: obviously was a big deal. But how about if those 328 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: two teams play in the Super Bowl and they have 329 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: to travel all the way across the country to play 330 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But well, what will happen in the city 331 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: of LA if they have two Super Bowl teams? They 332 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: would I can mostly be pulling for the Rams. This 333 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: is the Chargers have. They are carving out a niche 334 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: for themselves, especially because of how good they are. But 335 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: this is a RAM town. You know. You go into 336 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: the grocery stores and the blood light packs are all Rams. 337 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: Even in even in Orange County, where where the Chargers 338 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: are based out of, it is a It's a Ram city. 339 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: But if that were to happen, I'm sure the city 340 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: of LA. You know, it's a buzzy city. They like 341 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: what they like winners, so I'm sure that they would 342 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: get off for that game for sure. Sam forty eight 343 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: is our guest. He covers the Chargers for the Athletic. 344 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Philip Rivers, who's got a birthday coming 345 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: up on Saturday. He will turn thirty seven. That's supposed 346 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: to be the point where guys are just about done, 347 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: if not already done. But he seems to be playing 348 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: better than ever is he. Yeah, he's playing the best 349 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: football of his career. And that is really in large 350 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: part due to the head coach Anthony Lynn's philosophy. Anthony 351 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: Lynn a former running back Super Bowl winner. His philosophy 352 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: is do not turn the ball over. He's a Bill 353 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: Parsnel stifle. You know. He wants the balanced offense. He 354 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: wants the other team he wants he takes away the 355 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: other team's best players. He wants you to make your 356 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: mistakes and not lose. Is really his philosophy. And so 357 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 1: when he came here after twenty sixteen Philip Rivers led 358 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: the league with twenty one interceptions, he said, that is 359 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: not going to happen anymore. So he he really tried 360 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: to curb that down. There was some friction, you know, Philip, 361 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of made himself Philip rivers on throwing 362 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: those long balls, being the gun flinger, and so, you know, 363 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: just parping on it again and again, you know, holding 364 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: the accountable on every throw. You know, Philip was afford 365 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: of a lot of freedom under Mike McCoy, the previous coach. 366 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: So and Philip himself has said he has that internal conflict, 367 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, when they were trailing the Rams by two 368 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns earlier in the year, when Philip had to tell 369 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: himself on some drives, don't do it. Don't you do it. 370 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Don't throw two interceptions one for a touchdown and make 371 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: that the blowout. You know, keep yourself in the game, 372 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: keep yourself in the game flow. And we've seen that 373 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: constantly kind of play out on the field this year, 374 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: where he'll make some thank you throws or he'll you know, 375 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: consciously have to throw it away or take a sack. 376 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: And that has been one of the most fascinating storylines 377 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: this season. That is interesting, you know, you look at it. Overall, 378 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: their turnover ratio, they're plus eleven, tied for second in 379 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: the NFL twenty two takeaways tied for fourth only eleven 380 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: gives fourth in the league, top five in every category 381 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: in terms of turnovers. I mean that that's going to 382 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: win you a lot of football games, there's no question. 383 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: And they've won a lot of football games in their 384 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: last twenty four games. They're eighteen and six. They've won 385 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: fifteen to their last nineteen games. They finished last year 386 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: six and one and now nine and three to start 387 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: this season. Six out of the last seven, I should 388 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: say they won. How about this football team? Is it 389 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: playing the best football that that franchise has has seen 390 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: for quite a while now? I asked the Antonio Gates 391 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: and some people forget he's still playing, but he is here. 392 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: He's used mostly in the red zone and on third downs. 393 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Philip trust him implicitly more than anyone. They've been together 394 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: there for I want to say eighteen years. They seventeen 395 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: years now. Um Antonio Gates said, this team really feels 396 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: he hasn't felt this way about a team, you know, 397 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: since they're fourteen and two team, uh in they're in 398 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: their twelve and fourteen that won I think it was 399 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: something like ten straight games to finish off the season 400 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: in oh nine under North Turner. Um. You know, he 401 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: thinks that this this team, this franchise is playing the 402 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: best football it has its probably close to the decade 403 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: um and I think it really does go back to 404 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: that Anthony Lyz philosophy. Nick Hardwick m a long time 405 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: center with Philip Rivers who was here for about a 406 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: decade when when Phillip started his career, he said, you 407 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: know you've seen and this is sort of spearheaded by 408 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, right, And he's an emotional guy that play 409 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: emotional football. That's why he would throw so many picks, 410 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: is you know, he'd try to wild himself back into 411 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: the game. But he said, Anthony lind has really bought 412 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: brought a steadiness, an emotionless not emotion list, but a 413 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: very steady, very calculated approach. And he said this team 414 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: wasn't playing emotional football like it used to be. They're 415 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: playing the numbers, they're playing their schemes, and they're kind 416 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: of staying in that ruthless mentality. We are talking to 417 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: Sam Fortyer, who covers the Chargers for The Athletic. If 418 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: you are looking for more info on the Chargers, you 419 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Sam than the Number 420 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: four then the letters t R. We are not far 421 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: from Columbus. So fans here know all about Joey Bosa. 422 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: How well is he playing after missing the first ten 423 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: games of the year with a foot injury. Joey Boza 424 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: looks like he is just about back to the number 425 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: he had. The Chargers were really struggling to generate a 426 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: pass rush. How the Studs are pretty oftens blind last week, 427 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: and Joey Buzza came through in the third quarter for 428 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: a big sack that ultimately led to a punt and 429 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: that ultimately led to a punt return touchdown that's allowed 430 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers to tie the game and ultimately take the lead. 431 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: He is playing just as well as as you know, 432 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: as he ever had. And a part of that key 433 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: is so Nick Bosa. After he withdrew from the Ohio State, 434 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: he came out here and he lives with Joey. Now. 435 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: They have a pretty serious workout set up in their garage. 436 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: And I know that Joey at halftime, especially in that 437 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: first team when he came back, Joey texted Nick at halftime, 438 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: he said, Hey, how do I look? And Nick said, 439 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: focus on your get off. Here's what you want to 440 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: do with your hands, your legs, and Joey said that 441 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: has really helped in those two playing off each other. 442 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Joey attributed to to how he played so far interesting. 443 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: You know you look at it. The coaching staff that 444 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: Lynn has assembled. Both his coordinators are former head coaches 445 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: Ken wizzen Hunt and Gus Bradley. That's that's pretty impressive. 446 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: And defensively, I mean they're playing the Seattle Gus Bradley 447 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll type of scheme, Cover three, and they drafted 448 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: a guy, Derwin James with the seventeenth pick. Everybody had 449 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: him as a top ten and he slides through the 450 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: seventeenth pick. And with Bosa and Ingram, you know, applying 451 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: pressure up front and Derwin James, Casey Hayward in the 452 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: back end, I mean, it has some some look of 453 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks what they do. It's not real complicated. 454 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: They just go out and executed extremely well, don't they. Yeah, 455 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: And there they've had that. They have that Cover three 456 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: scheme and it's sort of remarkable because, um, this team 457 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: has lost Denzel Perriman, uh their uh they're outside linebacker 458 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: who was a big run stopper for them. They lost 459 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: Corey Legit defensive tackle m who was also ever they 460 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: lost both of them in the last four weeks. They 461 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't have Brandon Knibe in the last two games because 462 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: of a personal reason. Um, and that's their you know, 463 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: first and second down defensive tackles. So this defense has 464 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: really been decimated by injuries personal reasons. And then you know, 465 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: going back to the start of the years, you know, 466 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: you lose your starting free safety and Jay with Watkins. 467 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this defense has certainly faced in Kaisier White 468 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: there their rookies starting outside linebacker Huland played three days 469 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: this year, So they still have the stars that you've mentioned. 470 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: They've also lost a lot of talent, but um, they've 471 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: still maintained and you could probably attribute that to discuss 472 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: Bradley systems, but they've still maintained an elite level of defense. 473 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: A couple more questions for Chargers Beat reporter Sam forty A. 474 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: We have talked about a lot of the charge Your stars, Rivers, Gates, Bosa, 475 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: et cetera. Keenan Allen. I guess we haven't spent much 476 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: time talking about him, But give me a couple of 477 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: guys that typical football fan, uh doesn't watch the Chargers 478 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: every week. Doesn't know about that's playing really good football. 479 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips is there, and he's there middle linebacker in 480 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: their nickel package. I'm not sure, uh, you know with 481 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: aj greeno out how much we'll see you know, three 482 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: receiver sets. But I know you know, a lot of 483 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: football teams are an eleven personnel now, so I assume 484 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: the nickel package will be on the defense. We'll be 485 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: on the field a lot of the Chargers this week. 486 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: He is the Anthony Lynn has called him the key cock. 487 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: He's he's an undrafted free agent. Um. He directs that defense. 488 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: He's effective against the run. UM, he gets everybody lined up. 489 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: He's a really smart guy. Adrian Phillips thirty one on 490 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: the defense as a guy you're gonna watch, you're gonna 491 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: want to watch out for. And then also Michael Davis 492 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: on the outside a corner. He takes the second receiver usually, 493 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: you know, if they're not playing zone. Last week they 494 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: went man against G. G. Smith, Schuster and Antonio Brown 495 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: of the Steelers. Michael Davis is a guy. He didn't 496 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: start until about week nine, right after the bye week. 497 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: They moved on from Trevor Williams their other starting corner, 498 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: and Michael Davis is sort of that longer he's you know, 499 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: six two one h Gus Bradley kind of batted down 500 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: in comparison to Richard Sherman ball Steel's wise, but his 501 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: body type is exactly that prototype Gus Bradley corner you 502 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: want to look for. So those two guys are going 503 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: to be I would say, fixed factors on the defense 504 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: this weekend. My question is that, like you mentioned the 505 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: the comeback, and we know how hard it is playing 506 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: the Steelers every year in Pittsburgh to come from behind 507 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: when trailing by two scores or actually three scores at 508 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: one point in the in the football game. I think 509 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: they rallied from sixteen down, didn't they? And it had 510 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: never happened. They were one hundred and seventy one hundred 511 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: and seventy four wins, no loss, is one tie to 512 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: do that in the momentum that's built off of that, 513 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: do you think that's something that carries over or do 514 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: you think this is a classic trap game. Income the 515 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: Bengals struggling lost six out of their last seven, the 516 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: team might just roll their helmets out there, big emotional 517 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: win Sunday Night football the whole nation. While look at 518 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers, how do you think this team reacts? You've 519 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: been around them on a daily basis. Do you think 520 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: that momentum carries do you think they do have a 521 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: little bit of an emotional you know, lull and maybe 522 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: trap game problems. It's tough to say. I don't want 523 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: to buy into to coach speak too much, but I mean, 524 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: fucking a rufloccuming the left tackle. And he's an incredibly 525 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: intelligent person, and he was saying the other day, he said, 526 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know if I've ever been 527 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: around a football team this resilient. And he was on 528 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: those Seattle Seahawks teams, you know, those the Legion of Boom. 529 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: And I mean he has played with some end He 530 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: played with Teyton Manning and Denver. I mean, he has 531 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: been around some serious football teams. And he said, this 532 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: team is one of the more resilient squads I've ever 533 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: been a part of. And it's tough to say, I mean, 534 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: this could possibly be a trapped game. But even even 535 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: when I mean, for example, two weeks ago, the Chargers 536 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: started in the first quarter, they got dominated by Arizona 537 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: they were down ten nothing. Josh Rosen was looking like 538 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: an all pro. The offense, you know, had two three 539 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: and outs something like that, and they came back and 540 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: they scored forty five on answers to win forty five ten. 541 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: And I think Josh Rosen one hundred and some yards 542 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: in the first quarter and he had maybe forty nine 543 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: yards the rest of the way. It was. You know, 544 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: you hate to say they can just flip the switch, 545 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: but even if they even if they spot you two scores, 546 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: they're still raring back, you know. Our thanks to Sam 547 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: forty A last, but not least, aj Green was placed 548 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: on season ending injury reserve on Wednesday joined the club. 549 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: It's a list that includes Andy Dalton, Tyler Eifford, Preston Brown, 550 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson and nine others. Dalton had surgery to repair 551 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: ligament damage in his thumb last week and sat down 552 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: this week to talk with Dave Lapham, the two guys 553 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: this team could not afford to lose. It loses about 554 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: this year with injuries. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, 555 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: it's been been really crazy. You know, it's unfortunate that 556 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: we've had so many guys go down, and uh, it's 557 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: tough to have your your season cut short. And uh, 558 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, especially for me, I've had it had had 559 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: it happened one other time in my career, and I 560 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: mean you never want to see it happened. So, um, 561 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of key pieces that have gone down, 562 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: and so it's it's just been tough your injury. Everybody 563 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: says you're gonna be fine back for OTAs you know, rehab, 564 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: they just had to surgically repair or torn ligament is 565 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: at the situation. Yeah, so they just went in there 566 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: and they got everything fixed and um, you know, expect 567 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: full recovery and uh, we'll just take it slow because 568 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: there's no reason to push it at this point. And 569 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: so um yeah, that's that's the biggest thing, is just 570 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: to kind of take it one day at the time 571 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: right now. Just uh, the healing process takes time. And 572 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: that's where I'm at heart was aching for you all 573 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: because you I think you knew something was really wrong 574 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: when you went to the sideline. Just the expression I 575 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: saw you one time, just you know, throw your head 576 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: down and frustrate and I think, man, he knows, you 577 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: know something's up, And that kind of thing is is 578 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: your worst nightmare, isn't it. Yeah, it's one of those 579 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: things like in fifteen when it had happened, I didn't 580 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: know exactly what had gone on. I felt like there's 581 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: still a chance, um that I'd still be able to 582 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: play and all that kind of stuff, and then, um, 583 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, after getting the X rays and stuff solid 584 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: it was broken. This time, I knew right away, just 585 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: because I'd kind of been through that feeling before and uh, 586 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, knowing what had gone on, and so uh yeah, 587 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: it was I think right away I knew this something 588 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: something was wrong. You got the brace on. I had 589 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: what they called gate keepers where you've been your thumb 590 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: back to your forearm kind of And is that what 591 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: happened to you? Because I mean I played with a 592 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: club I couldn't hold anymore, but I played with the club. 593 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: But I mean obviously quarterback, you can't you can't do 594 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: anything with an injury like that. But did you have 595 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: that kind of thing that gatekeepers feeling? Yeah, it's just 596 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: one of those things, the um you know, with the 597 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: ligament being being to win the way it was it, uh, 598 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, can't grip a football. It's one of those 599 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: things like you said, if you played a different position, 600 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: you may be all right, but when you have to 601 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: throw the ball, you're not gonna be able to make 602 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: that work. We just had Bob Noll on the show 603 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, and you know, he said, you know, 604 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: people have to understand this is an elite quarterback. Andy 605 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: Dalton is an elite quarterback, and he's talking about all 606 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: the phases of the of the position. The people really 607 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: don't understand, you know. And he says, you do that 608 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: at such a a such a high level. How do 609 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: you think your season was going this year? How did 610 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: you think it win? Yeah, there's a lot of good 611 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: things that happened this year. Um, I think the way 612 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: that you know, you look at the games we won, 613 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: how we won them. Um, you know, being the fourth quarter, comingbacks, 614 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: making the play at the end of the game you 615 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: need to I mean that that was. When you look 616 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: back on the season, there's there's something you can definitely 617 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: take away. And there's some games we wish we would 618 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: have had back, we wish we'd have been in. You know, 619 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: you look at a couple of games like the Kansas 620 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: City and the Saints game, it's like we wish we 621 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: could have done more and wish I could have done more. 622 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: But um, and there's definitely a lot of positives take 623 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: away from the season. What's your role going to be 624 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: with Jeff? What do you what are you gonna do? 625 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: And support of Jeff driscoll. Yeah, and I'm still sitting 626 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: in all the meetings and um and being around and 627 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: just trying to help out any any any way I can. 628 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: I think just with talking through the game plan with 629 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: with different players. This is hey, this is how I 630 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: view this play, this is what I would do on 631 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: uncertain reads. Obviously the coaches are doing a great job 632 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: with him, um, and so I'm just trying to give 633 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: little bits of information that maybe the coaches may not 634 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: be given him. What do you think if you looked 635 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: at the tape of his first start, what do you 636 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: think overall? Yeah, I thought he played well. I thought, um, 637 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, he was really accurate with the ball, He 638 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: put the ball in good spots and uh, you know, 639 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: he moved the offense well. And um, I think I 640 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: thought he did a great job this football team, the Chargers. 641 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley was a head coach and uh he was 642 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks it looks like they're running Seattle's defense. 643 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're playing that cover three and 644 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: they have Derwin James, who's ideal for that for that defense. 645 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: What do you see out of the charges when you 646 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 1: look at them on tape. Yeah, it's they're not a 647 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: complicated team. They're just uh sounding. What they do is 648 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: again like you're saying, it's that whole Seattle style of defense, 649 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: which you know several teams are now have adopted that 650 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: that defensive scheme and just because of the success that 651 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: Seattle had with it, and um, I think with coordinators 652 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: moving on to be head coaches and position coaches kind 653 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: of taking over as coordinators, it just kind of it's 654 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of how it works. But um, you know, it's 655 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: it's just this is how where they're gonna line up. 656 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: You know where they're gonna be, and they're just sounded 657 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: what they do, and so um, when you get the 658 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: chances to attack them, you've you've got to make the 659 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: most of it. Atlanta, Jacksonville, I mean, those are some 660 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: of the defense that you had great success obviously in 661 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: the Atlanta game earlier this year. Attack and that uh, 662 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: that defense Jacksonville. You know, I was running it. So yeah, 663 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: it is. It is around the league a little bit, 664 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's gonna be a real big 665 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: asset to Jeff to have you who already prepared for 666 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: that defense earlier in the season, you know, to kind 667 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: of sit there and say, this is what I was 668 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: thinking when they were doing this, They'll probably do this 669 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: if we do that. Those kind of things were invaluable. Yeah, 670 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think you can. But just the way 671 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: that this defense plays, you kind of know in certain 672 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: spots where they're gonna be and um so maybe on 673 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: certain regime it would get off some get somebody quicker 674 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: and gets to your next progression or you maybe the hey, 675 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: this is probably where the ball is going to go 676 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: because of the way they play. Plus Cleveland Pittsburgh, you've 677 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: played both of those teams. I mean, you can provide 678 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: the same type of source resource and information formed down 679 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: the stretch in those last two road games. Yeah, you know, 680 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, like I said, I'm just trying to try 681 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: to help out as much as I can. Uh, you 682 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: know in any way that that he needs me. So 683 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: you envision yourself here with the Cincinnati Bengals for the 684 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: long haul I mean, you want to be a twenty 685 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: year quarter you don't play as long as pretty play 686 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: two four five. That's a long time. I don't know 687 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: about that, but you know, I would love to be 688 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: here my whole career. I know, we um, we love 689 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: it here and we're established here, and um, you know, 690 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: this is the only thing I know. I kind of 691 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: like what Aj was saying. He's, uh, he's in this 692 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: for the long haul, and UM, you know, I hope 693 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: to be too. And he has two years left on 694 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: his contract at an average of about seventeen million dollars 695 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: a year. That's obviously a out of money, but Andy 696 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: ranks nineteenth among NFL quarterbacks in salary. That's going to 697 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: do it for this episode of the podcast. If you 698 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: haven't done so already, don't forget to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, 699 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: or pod Bean, and if you have a minute, please 700 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: give it a rating or leave a comment. Your feedback 701 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: has always appreciated, and five star ratings help more Bengals 702 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for 703 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: listening to The Bengals Booth podcast.