WEBVTT - Twin Flames 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell I Suck At Dating with the Nongler and Jared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:11.520 Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going On, Sucky Daters. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.080 Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:21.239 At Dating? As always, it's your beloved, handsome, intelligent hosts, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.880 me and the other guy, Jared Haven. What's going on? Jared? 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.040 I feel that's like, that's what Sean Booth called Nick 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.120 Viall on our season, the other Guy. He refused to 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.440 call him by Nick. It was actually quite funny, and 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.800 now Nick is just forever known as the other guy. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.760 Partly in my brain. There you go, another way that 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.760 we cannot separate you and Nick. You guys look very similar, 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:48.560 act very look very similar, a very similar alter egoys. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.159 I'll take that as a compliment. If I look like 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.479 him at his age, which I won't say because he'll 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.520 probably hate me for saying it, then I'll be a 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.920 happy man, my friend. You know, I'm sick of this. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.240 I'm just sick of this at that age saying. I 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.160 was telling Kalen the other day, or actually even just 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.160 this morning at breakfast, I was like, oh, look at 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.120 your hands. They've got more wrinkles in them than I do. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.200 Like in the palms and the palm of a hand. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.040 I was like, your palm has more wrinkles than I 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.120 didn't mind you, and she was like, don't look at them. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.560 The wrinkly I was like, that's just literally part of 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.000 life and growing older. It's like, you're gonna have wrinkles, 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.240 and so at any age you look exactly how you're 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:30.880 supposed to. Try telling Ashley that she gets wrinkles forcibly 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:36.319 removed through technological advances. I mean, listen, of course, we're 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:37.600 never going to be able to get into the mind 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.240 of other people. But at the end of day, it's like, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.080 just let nature run its course, and like, if you 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.640 get a little wrinkly, that's just how nature intended you 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:51.200 to look. I may have just gotten a vivacchi facial, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.560 which is something I've never heard of before, but Ashley 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.760 wanted me to get one because she got one. They 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.400 numbed my face. So my face is still very numb 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.280 right now. So if I start like my tongue goes numb, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.279 then I start just blabbering. Just take over the podcast 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.840 for me. I'd appreciate it. Your skin does look a 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.160 little like pulled back almost, Okay, well it wasn't like 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.000 it wasn't what would that be a facelift? Yeah, no, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.280 it was not a facelift. It was like there was 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.040 like little needles. It was not an enjoyable experience. I 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.880 don't know why facials are like described to be enjoyable. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:29.360 They facials. Have you ever had one? Um, maybe like 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.760 once or twice or anything like this. So a couple 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.480 of years ago, my first facial ash wanted me to 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.800 get one because I have tons of black heads in 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.560 my nose apparently, so she wanted to get those removed 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.640 because if you don't get the blackheads removed, apparently your 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.400 nose becomes like your great grandfather's you know, where it's 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.320 just like all bubbled up and pussed out, quite disgusting. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.160 So she was like, get the black heads out now, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.079 because I don't want you to have this puffed out 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.280 nose when we're older. I was like whatever, So I 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.080 go and they have to extract them and they're like 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.520 zapping my face and then digging like a scalpel into 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.600 my nose, and I'm like, I'm sorry. All my life, 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.960 I grew up thinking that facials were some sort of 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:12.560 enjoyable massage spa experience little did I know that I'd 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.960 be bleeding, legitimately bleeding from leaving a facial anyway, that's 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.600 my facial story. That sounds painful, But listen, in the 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.959 defense of that whole situation, at least like they're getting 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:27.680 your natural features to shine injecting or well, they're they're 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.240 they're taking the things away to make your natural self 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.880 shine rather than adding things to make you look different, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.480 you know. So I think that's defensible in my opinion. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.720 But there are things like botox and you know, uh, 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.880 lip injections and all those things. I personally am not 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.400 a fan. I know everyone's different. Do what you gotta 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.520 do to make yourself feel beautiful, don't get me wrong, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.280 but I mean, I don't know, especially in today's day 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.720 and age, especially living in l A. I'm sure you're 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.440 not gonna counter much of it in Rhode Island, but 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.520 as you know, living in l A for four or 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.040 five years, however long you're there, it's like pretty prevalent. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.600 And I don't know how we got on this topic, 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.840 but I'm very passionate about it. I don't blame you. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.480 I uh, you know, I always said I never get botox. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.000 But Tom Brady gets botox, and if Brady does it, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.040 I'm kind of having a change of heart. I could 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.600 see myself getting botox at one point. Luckily, right now, 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.200 I don't think we need it. Caitlin and I were 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.360 walking down the boardwalk here and her Mosta this morning 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.440 and we saw Jared Goff riding by in his motorcycle 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.400 and I'm sorry, on his bicycle. I knew who it was, 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.080 and like, I think, like we made out of contact 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.279 whatever and sound important, but in the back of my 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.040 head at the end, like after he had passed by, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:32.440 I was like, crap. I should have yelled out got 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.560 lions as soon as he rode by, but I unfortunately 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.400 did not. Do you think he knew who you were, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.039 which is why you guys made eye contact. You know, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.560 it's entirely possible. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.920 was like some unspoken mutual respect between the two of us. Oh, dude. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.520 One time I saw Tofa Grace in Hollywood and I 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.960 was I was staring at him because I was like, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.320 holy crap, that's to for Grace, And then he saw me, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.520 and then we probably had the same experience you did 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.440 with Jared Goff, where we just stared at each other 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.200 for like a good four seconds because I was like, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.320 that's Toll for Grace. And then he made on contact 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.480 with me, and he he didn't He like looked at 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.840 me as if he knew me or like was trying 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.320 to register in his brain where he recognized me from. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.320 And then I was like, oh my god, I think 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.599 till for Grace knew who I was for a second. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.720 I think he might watch The Bachelor. So it's like 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.920 stuff like that. That is one of the coolest experience 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.880 of the show for me, like being like, I think 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.840 that guy knows who I am. I don't want to 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.560 sound like an idiot or anything, but who the heck 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.920 is Toll for Grace? Dude? That seventy show and he 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.480 was in Uh he's the main guy. Yeah, I think 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:35.720 his name is Eric in the show. And then he 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.640 was in, um, what's the eighties movie? I really liked it? Uh, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.840 take Me Home Tonight. He was in that it came 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.440 out a few years ago. He was in Spider Man three. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.640 He was Venom. That was probably the biggest role. He 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:53.120 was Venom. He was also in Ocean's twelve or thirteen. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.120 At the very beginning. He yes, it's right. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.000 he rented the room that Brad Pitt owned the hotel 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.400 I love. He's an Oceans he might be told, but 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.440 he's an Oceans eleven. He's at the poker game. That's right. Well, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.680 that's right. So that's how he met Brad Pitt, and 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.360 in my opinion, that might be his biggest recurring role 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.599 in the Oceans movies, like come on, man, you can 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.240 that's pretty awesome. It's it's funny that we talked about 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.280 this thing at the beginning because we have a headline 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:21.840 that we I think it's important for us to discuss 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.120 in terms of dating. Uh, it's the Jane Fonda shares 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.359 her truthful outlook on dating, and it's that she would 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:33.800 want a younger man. So she tells USA Today that 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.240 she shares her truthful outlook on dating. So obviously she's 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.479 a legendary actress, she's an activist, and she talked to 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:46.880 an interview last Thursday about being a three Damn she's 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.840 eighty three years old. That is good for James that 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.160 she looks great. But she talks about intimate relationship and 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.680 she talks about what she you know, like she talks 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.800 about her fantasies and quote, Jane Fonda says, I don't 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.040 want to be in a relationship, a sexual relationship. Again, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.599 I don't have that desire, do I fantasize? Yeah, here's 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.479 my fantasy. I'll just put it out there, Jane Fonda said. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.120 But the problem is that, like a man, I would 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.760 want a younger man. Isn't that awful? It's a thing 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.720 about skin. I would want a younger man, and I'm 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.400 too vain. So she's been married and divorced three times. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.360 That sucks. Her most recent marriage was to billionaire Ted Turner. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.280 They split up back. Oh my god, so she has 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:30.920 been married in twenty years because they split up back 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:36.760 in two thousand and one. Uh So, listen, Jane Fonda, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.120 you're eighty three years old. Girl, go for a younger man. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.520 First of all, if she's gonna date, let's be honest. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:47.080 Statistically speaking, the person is probably gonna be younger than her, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.680 just from from rage, you know what I mean. We're 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.000 looking at average lifespan here. Yeah, exactly. But Jane Fonda. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.560 I saw a picture of her recently. She looks awesome. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.480 She makes pretty good. Whenever I hear the name Jane Fonda, 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.760 I think of that Key Avalons Mickey Avalanche song more 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.440 junk in than trunk than a Honda. I know you 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.600 want to do the Jane Fonda. Have you heard that 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.840 song before? Yeah, it's just it's it's directly where my 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.960 mind just zeros in on. So I mean, listen, if 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.200 you're big enough to have a song written about you, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.200 you're doing something right. So I think it's it's very 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.200 much within Jane's right today, younger if that's what she 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.480 wants to do A girl, I don't know, like listen, 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.760 like let's say, you know, you get divorced three times, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.880 you're in your eighties, what do you get, Like, what 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:31.880 is younger to you? You're like someone in their sixties, 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.840 like at that point somebody in their seventies. Well, yeah, 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.960 of course, Like I like you said, law of averages. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.079 Everything is really like the majority of people in the 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.000 world are gonna be younger than you. So it's like 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.240 how much younger are we talking here? Like is Jane 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.240 Fonda gonna date like a twenty five year old guy? 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.360 Because that's a little creepy. All right, let's be honest, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.080 right now, Okay, do you have your you have your 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.200 computer in front of you, right, I do want you to. 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.360 I want you to google a picture of Jane Fonda. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.280 Just do Jane Fond, so you know what she looks like? Alright, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:05.600 an one, okay, yeah, yeah, she's still cute. That my question, Dean, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.400 you as how old? I'm twenty nine, I'm twenty I'm 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.640 thirty next month? Thank you very much? Oh my god, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.680 yeah you're getting old. So as a thirty let's just 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.560 we we'll aid you up as a thirty year old man. Yeah, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.480 looking at Jane Fonda, what she looks like? A three? Dean? 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.520 If you were single, would you date Jane Fonda? Absolutely not? 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.040 Okay you would you go on one date with Jane 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.080 Fond if she was like Dean, I'm a huge Bachelor fan. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.920 I loved you on the show. I would love nothing 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.520 more than to go on a date with you. Would 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.400 you go on a date with her? I would be 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.600 very interested in sparking up like a very platonic friendship 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.800 with Jane Fonda. Shure, that sounds awesome. I'm sure she's 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.080 got some great stories to share. I think I could 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.480 entertain her with some of my own stories, but I 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.000 don't think there would be any romance involved. To be fair, 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.400 she said that she doesn't want to be in a 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.080 sexual relationship. Again, she doesn't have that desire, So this 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.400 could work out perfectly for both you. Yeah, do you 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.559 want me call Kalen over here and apologize to her 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.080 and say, like listen to hey, I'm gonna go on 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.680 a date with Jane Fonda And it prevented the opportunity 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.920 or presented the opportunity of course, like you know, no 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:15.319 promises or anything like that. Why not. Yeah, yeah, I 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.040 can see that actually, now that you you put it 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.600 into perspective for me, I could see that being a 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.760 realistic scenario for me, Like the Kalen is out of 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.640 the picture. What's the biggest age gap you'd ever date 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:31.360 a girl at, like a romantic like physically date. Yeah, 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:36.640 like a romantic relationship that you are committed to one another. Um, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.120 that's a hard question to answer because listen, like, obviously, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.160 I fortunately I don't have to put myself in that scenario. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.520 I've dated older in the past before Calin. Of course, 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.440 Calin's four years my junior. But in the past I've 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.440 dated girls as upwards of like ten years older than 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.000 I am. My brother dated a girl who was twenty 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.480 plus years older than he was, so uh, you know, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.959 the Ungler genealogy doesn't discriminate against age. If there's a spark, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.240 if there's a connection there, then by all means will 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.880 pursue it. Um. But thankfully I don't even have to. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.160 I don't have to consider this hypothetical because I have 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.400 klin and and um, she's not even three years old. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.920 We're podcasts, we're here for entertainment purposes. Hypothetical is what 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.280 we do. I would say I would go upwards of 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.040 like early forties, mid forties. I would say I would 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.640 say the same for like a committed relationship, because it 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:28.240 would be tough because it all depends to you know, family, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.200 what you're planning marriage. Like, if you're dating someone older, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.079 they could have easily been divorced and maybe not want 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.360 to get married again. Remember they don't want kids, or 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.000 maybe they already have kids. That throws a wrench into dating. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.240 Obviously for me though, like if we're putting all those 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.280 factors to the side, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.480 would go. I would go even upper forties, I think, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.760 and you're at two you know, obviously Ashley is the 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.000 one woman for me. But if I was single before 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.400 ash Yeah, I'm not gonna lie like a woman older 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:05.480 than me who like puts out sexy vibes that was 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.640 good things? Is that like is that like a king 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:10.560 thing though, like once you like one and done, like 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.440 once you get it, you're over it. I'm like, Okay, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.360 check that off the list. Or is that like an 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.920 actual thing where it's like there might be some longevity 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.559 to this today? You know. I gotta be honest, I've 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.720 I've never experienced it, so I can't really answer that question. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.280 I don't know if it would have been a one 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.439 dumb thing or if I would have been head over 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.960 heels like Okay, I'm in love, this is over, like 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:34.320 I will do anything for you. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:35.880 You want to know what the best thing about this 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.840 whole conversation that Jared, what that is that none of 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.320 it matters because you have Ashley and I have Kaylin, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:46.559 and we're very very lucky in that guard well, extremely lucky. Obviously. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.520 Did you ever have I was gonna say, did you 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.960 ever have a hesitant? Because Klein was four years younger 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.600 than you, Um, do you do you see that as 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.319 a big age difference? Like my parents are seven years difference, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.960 and as a kid, I never thought twice about it. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.480 I was like, oh, that's just what you know marriages. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.360 You marriage someone, he married someone seven years younger than you. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:12.000 But now as I get older, I realized what a 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.480 big age difference that is between my parents because they 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.880 got together. My dad was twenty seven, my mom was 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.319 twenty when they got married. So for you, Dean, you know, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.439 Calin's four years younger than you. Do you think that's 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:28.640 a big difference in age? Uhh, that's a really good question, Jared. Um, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.480 it was. I wouldn't say it was like a hesitation, 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.599 but it was definitely a thought that had crossed my 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.520 mind at some point because, like I said, I want 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.400 I want to say, like, historically I did date a 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.600 little older, like most of my girlfriends and my twenties 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.240 were like late twenties, early thirties. Um, you know, because listen, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.320 like I'm super mature, really intellectual. It's just very like 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.440 interesting and so that like you know, obviously tailors towards 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:57.880 an older crowd a little bit, obviously obviously, uh and 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.439 so across my mind. But I don't think there's every 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.640 any like I don't think I was ever like twenty 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.880 four when I was twenty eight. It's like, that's not 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:09.439 going to pass. Because you know, women on average, I think, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.959 I think it's pretty commonly known that they mature faster 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.360 than men. So I was like, Okay, cool, she's four 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.880 years younger than I am. She's still probably four years 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.080 more mature than I am, So that in itself was 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.840 like okay, whatever, like this is a big deal. And 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.880 actually than you. She was just funny because I think 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.880 he was four years more mature than her age and 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.240 your four years less mature than your age. So if 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.640 you really balance this thing, oh, she's pretty much emotionally 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:39.160 two years older than you. Well, by that math, she 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.080 would be twenty nine and I would be twenty five, 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.840 which is very very possible. Yeah. I mean mass was 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.760 never my strong suit, which is why I ended up 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.280 on Bachelor in Paradise. There's a lot of math. It's 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.920 it's so funny too, because I was just telling Calin 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.240 some stories when we were at breakfast, just now about 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.400 the things I would do when I was nineteen or 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.280 eighteen or nineteen, like a freshman in college, and she 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.560 was like, you would do those things, and I was like, yeah, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.040 I was an idiot, and she goes like, that's like 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.320 beyond I the audic. That's like like I was actingly 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.560 at fifteen year old. I think that typically do skew younger. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.680 I need to know what one of these things was. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.720 I mean, just explain a legal version of it, if 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.720 these things were illegal. The main story that threw her 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.600 off really bad was I used to just get really 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.240 drunk with my friends and like have each other like 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.520 we would all just punch each other in the face 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:27.000 to give each other black eyes. Um, eighteen years because 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.440 we're idiots. Absolutely, because we're idiots. And there was I 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.360 think that you didn't think like women are going to 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.800 find this sexy or like look like a badass. Yes, 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.520 of course that's nice. That's like I would say, like 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.560 that six of what it was. I say it was 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.880 like thirty, like showing up to class as a freshman 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.880 in college with a black eye and everyone's like, WHOA, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.720 this guy got into a fight this weekend. That's pretty cool. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.680 You should see the other. Yeah, that's what I would 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.520 always say. And then the other ten percent is just 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.360 like you know, just being drunk and stupid and young 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.840 with your friends. I told you that story, and she 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.800 was like, she looked at me like I was an 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.320 insane person and I'd like shared some of my other 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.080 like the link went, you know, underage drinking stories with 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:05.560 her before, and she's always like, those are bad. But 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.080 she like the way she looked at me after me 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.160 telling her that story was like, who the heck am 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.680 I dating right now? Because I have no idea who 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.200 you are. In my experience, guys are very stupid. So 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.720 we didn't punch each other in the face, but I 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.800 was also in high school we did this, but at football, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.400 like in the locker room, we would have challenges of 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.680 punching each other in the same spot, giving each other 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.160 a dead arm. So like you would wind up and 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.280 punch as hard as you could into your buddy's arm, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.400 and then your buddy would do the same thing to 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.760 your arm, and then you would continue this back and 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.840 forth until one person gave up. And then obviously the 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.400 one person that gave up just lost pride and respect. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.280 But when I look back upon that, I'm like, what 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.720 the hell is wrong with us? Why do guys do this? 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.960 It doesn't matter with us, We just punch each other 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:49.720 for fun. And you guys were punching each other in 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.280 each other's faces, right right. It got so bad to 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.720 the one point where there was this girl that I 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.600 was like really good friends with that I like, I like, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.240 had her pin me down on the ground and I 0:16:58.280 --> 0:16:59.880 should like start punching in the eye to give me 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:01.960 a guy. And I was like, you're not punching me hard, 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.080 punched me harder, and she started like punching me harder. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:05.320 And she's like, I'm scared, I don't want to punch 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.560 you harder. And I'm like, punch me harder. Uh, And 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.480 it sounds like a sexual fantasy. I'm not gonna lie 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.480 of yours where it was like a little crowded party 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.080 like I thought. I thought it was hilarious. My friends 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:17.840 probably didn't think it was as funny as I did, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.399 but they were still around me laughing. Anyway, let's move 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.679 on to a different subject. Yeah, there is one subject 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.720 I want to talk about before we get into our 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.880 guest this week. Now, this has covered on us weekly. Uh. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.960 Two people that we know from Bachelor in Paradise. One 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.840 person is your mortal enemy Evan bass Uh screenshot at 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.800 a text message between him and I guess his soon 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.439 to be ex wife, which is really said Carly waddell Um, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.399 and it was really weird. I remember seeing this live 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.840 while on Instagram. I saw that m posted because Evan 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.480 doesn't really uh post anything on social media anymore. And 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.639 then so I was curious. I clicked on his story 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.600 and it was a screenshot of a text message between 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.480 him and Carly and they were going back and forth 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:08.600 about I guess who Carly would date after Evan after 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.840 the divorce went final. I don't really know. It seems 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.840 like kind of a flirtatious text message back and forth 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.920 like oh who who would you date? Oh who would 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.040 you date? Ha ha ha ha. But it was really weird. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.440 And then Evan added the caption when you're soon to 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:29.480 be ex wife won't commit to appropriate boundaries. So obviously 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.760 I immediately showed this to Ash and was like, what 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.840 are you making of this? Because this is really weird 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.800 and then she had no idea what it meant. And 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.720 then Evan deleted it. And then the reason that's so 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.160 interesting is that he tagged so his next story, he 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.040 tagged me in it. So he deleted this. Then he 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.400 posted a story and tagged me in it, and he said, um, 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.959 I forget what he said, but he said something about 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.360 like how he was joking and he's headed into surgery tomorrow. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.399 And then he said tagging at Jared Haven because of 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.639 facial hair, because he you know, he he had like 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.080 the same facial hair I did in the picture. M 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:14.399 and so I responded, uh and uh, I don't know. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:15.960 I haven't heard back from him. I hope he's doing 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.120 all right. But it was but he deleted that too, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.520 and then he went on this Q and a. Um. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.080 But of course, uh, you know, us Weekly covered this 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.960 because it's Evan and Carly and and they talk about 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.359 how Evan wants Carly to marry an Italian because it 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.640 will make him happy, but he doesn't want any her 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.080 dating anybody. Sure it has to be someone over six ft. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.080 And it was just weird and the idea that he 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.640