1 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Maria Manunos is a journalist, TV presenter, and actress who 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: is best known for being a host on shows like 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Extra E News, Access Hollywood, and more. She currently is 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: the host of her own podcast, Heal Squad. She has 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: dedicated her life, her career, her energy to helping people 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: heal After her own medical journey, Maria is no stranger 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: to her personal life being in the public eye, but 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: the mom to be is stronger than ever and ready 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: for this next chapter in her life. This is just 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: be with Maria Manunos. Let's get into it. 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: So I remember that did we first meet each other? 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: Oh? 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I think we first met each other at beaches for 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: that like pr. 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Trip, yeah, and Caicos. 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: Right, yep, you're right. 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: I remember that being really nice. 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Like I was sort of surprised at what I thought 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: beaches or sandals, and I think they actually advertise on here. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: When I got went there, I remember it was like 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: a new building the Italian village, and I was surprised 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: how nice it was. Didn't you find that to be 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: like actually really beautiful? 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: Agreed? I remember they made the swans on our beds 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: out of the towels. Yes, it was so cute and 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm friendly with Adam Stewart still and I've you know, 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: kept in touch throughout the years. They're really lovely people. 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really nice. 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: But that's how I first sort of just met you 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: being at that event, and then I guessed maybe being 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: interviewed by you because we were extra an access Hollywood. 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: And then when I guess you reached out during relief 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: work for Be Strong, and that's how we kind of 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: really started connecting. Yep, and you introduced me to some 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: people during during Hurricane Maria. 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Because my perception of you is just. 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Really kind and friendly and nice and positive and always 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: reaching out. And you know, I don't know, I just 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: we don't know each other that well, but I feel 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: like we know each other a little bit. 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: And we hung out in New Orleans too. 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we are kind of like sisters 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: on a path, right. We want to do better and 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: we want to help people. And so I remember when 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: you were doing all the relief stuff. I can't remember 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: which tragedy or disaster it was, but I was in 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: an airport in DC and I was seeing what you 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: were doing, and I was so blown away and I 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: was like welling up in tears. Like, gosh, this woman 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: is unbelievable in what she's doing for people and just 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: a one woman machine. And I reached out and I said, 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: how can I support you? And as soon as I 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: started talking to you, I realized, Oh, she really is 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: a one woman machine, making everyone on the planet her 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: like assistant in a sense, like you were like everyone's involved. 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: I don't care if I've never met you before. I 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: need you to do this, I need you to do that, 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: and you just know how to mobilize people and get 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: shit done. And I was so blown away, and so yeah, yeah, 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: when COVID hit, I remember as well getting you in 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: touch with I think it was Grant to get you 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: some funds and you. 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Were amazing, And yeah it was Hurricane Maria and you 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: got me in touch with that guy Grant and people. 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: And then again you reached out and you kind of 66 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: were the one to let me know how much of 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: a shit show the PPE situation was, Like you were 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: one of the first people to care about that. And 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: then we ended up doing I Have the Hills. We 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: ended up doing PPE to all fifty states. I think 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: it was like fifteen million dollars in PPE. I'm the 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: type of person that someone else alerts me to something, 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: or many people do, and then I become like this 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: crazy like terminator that exactly as you said, becomes just 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: like can't stop and has to go all the way. 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: But You've always. 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: Connected about that, and and I've met Kevin, your husband, 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: and I think we I asked you this, but I 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: don't remember. What was the reason you waited so long 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: to actually get married and why did you feel that 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: it was necessary to be married legally married? 82 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: Uh? You know, when we first got together as a couple, 83 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: there was a lot of family turmoil. We had a 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: lot of issues with ironically both of us, with our brothers, 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: and it was it was just not in the cards 86 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: because if we got married, we wouldn't have included them 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: and my parents and his parents would have been devastated. 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's interesting. 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: So it really was that for like really because at 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: first we were like, oh my gosh, let's go get 91 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: married in Vegas, Like we were just you know, so 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: obsessed with each other and so wanted to do it, 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: and then it kind of just there was just this 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: like little bit of a dark cloud with what was 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: going on. And very soon after I met Kevin, I 96 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: ended up getting my first job in La so we 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: moved out here and then just the mad train just 98 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 3: started and we just, you know, there was no time, 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: there was no and for us, we just you know, 100 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: we were really sad about the family situations, and I 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: knew that we wouldn't do it until things were rectified. 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: And it took many years, like twenty years to get 103 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: to that place. 104 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to tell me about it, 105 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: because I know that. I mean, that's not even something 106 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: I've ever heard about. But how did you resolve? First 107 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: of all, because you wanted it to be a big affair, 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: because you could have just gone to I relate to. 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: This is why I'm asking because I'll explain why. But 110 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: you could have just gone to city Hall. But like, 111 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: is there any part of you that it didn't matter. 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: You were committed to each other and it's just a 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: piece of paper, like the total. 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: Contract and who can totally Yeah, forerever we were like 115 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: we're married in our hearts. I really didn't believe a 116 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: piece of paper was going to make a difference, right, 117 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: and so it didn't matter to me. And I remember 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: being at chris Generous for Christmas and she was telling me. 119 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: You know, my mom was diagnosed with stage four brain 120 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: cancer at the time, and she's like, tomorrow has never promised. 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: And I was hosting New Year's Eve for Fox with 122 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: Steve Harvey and they had asked me if I would 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: want to get married on the show, and I was like, oh, no, way, 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: And then I thought about it. I'm like, wait, I 125 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: can get married on TV, meaning everyone can be a 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: part of it, but I don't have to worry about 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: inviting anyone or organizing, dealing with anything, which I had 128 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: been on Martha Stewart's show years ago and it was funny. 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: It was like a wedding week and I was like 130 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: the Debbie Downer about weddings. I'm like, I hate weddings. 131 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: They're nightmares. Everyone makes the wife the bride miserable, and 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: I don't want any of that stress. So I got 133 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: the perfect scenario for me and my mom and dad 134 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: were surprised live on air and it was a really 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 3: beautiful experience. And then later that year, my real dream, 136 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: which was to get married in the village my dad 137 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: was from, came together. So we got married in the 138 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: village in Greece and it was an unbelievable of wow. 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: And I like, and I get all that because often 140 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: so if something comes and it's like an appearance that 141 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: appeared in Australia, you're almost as excited. You're just excited 142 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: that someone else is planning the like they're gonna plan 143 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: the hotel, by all of it, you're gonna show up 144 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: and I could bring my daughter and we'll be meeting Koalas. 145 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying, like it was a 146 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: planned wedding. So you know, every time I hear about 147 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: something unfortunate happening with you, I almost can't believe it. 148 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: All back to back. So your mom passes away, which 149 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: was so devastating for you, tragic, being on just that alone, 150 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: like really took you out at the need and then 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: and didn't you get married around that time or you 152 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: had been married that far before? 153 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: We had been married at that point, because my mom 154 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: passed two years ago, but. 155 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: You weren't married that long, right, wasn't it like all 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: in the same. 157 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: Year or now, maybe it was like three years before? 158 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: Oh okay, it was soon. 159 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: It was okay, So so she got to see you 160 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: get married, your mom passes away, and your dad you're 161 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: very close with and he's devastated too, obviously, so you're 162 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: sort of taking care of him emotionally too. 163 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: And then and then you are diagnosed with your own illness. 164 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: The first the first was the brain tumor soon after 165 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: she was diagnosed, So she was diagnosed late August twenty sixteen. 166 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: By April twenty seventeen, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. 167 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: So we went through the brain tumor journey, which was 168 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: crazy and so yeah, and then she passed. She made 169 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: it five years, which was a miracle. We beat COVID, 170 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: which was you know, a feat in and of itself. 171 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: But she was so weak, couldn't give her the chemo, 172 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: so she couldn't keep that tumor at bay, and so 173 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: the tumor grew out of control and that's how we 174 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: lost her. 175 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 176 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: And then you what were you thinking and going through? 177 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: And I mean, how did you remain positive? Like what 178 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: are you actually thinking when you hear that kind of news? 179 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: And like then how do you digest it and move 180 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: through it? And what is going on every day when 181 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: like stupid thing happening that no longer seem like they matter, 182 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: or like a dumb purse or pair of shoes that 183 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: you thought mattered to match an outfit or something like 184 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: what goes on? 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean none of that stuff matters. I remember 186 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: I filmed every step of the way, So if I'm 187 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: ever curious how I handled it, I'll go back to 188 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: my video diaries because I'm too lazy to write, so 189 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: do video diaries. And I remember just being in shock 190 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: because my whole life was committed to helping her through 191 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: this and finding another way and researching new alternatives and 192 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: just piecing together her health. As I say here on 193 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: my show on Heel Squad, I always say you have 194 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: to be the CEO of your health. You can't give 195 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: that power over to anybody. You can take opinions, you 196 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: can get information, you can go to people for things 197 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: that they are experts on and whatever. We could get 198 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: into that deeper. 199 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: Oh no, beyond it, we have to get into that, 200 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: because that's yeah, we have to get into that. 201 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: But I ran my mom's health and I know that 202 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: you know which he had comes with a six to 203 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: twelve month diagnosed death sentence. She ended up getting five 204 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: years and the only reason she isn't here is because 205 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: of COVID. So after she passed, I had a loss 206 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: of identity because I was a caretaker now for five years. 207 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: I had really given her the ferocity that I had 208 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: put into my career and all of that went to 209 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: her and becoming a fake doctor, and so I had 210 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: a loss of identity. I was really kind of just 211 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: in this I don't know, maybe like a purgatory in 212 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: a sense, where I just kind of would look at 213 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: her picture in my kitchen and be like, I can't 214 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: believe you're not here anymore. Not MOPy, but just little lost, 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: and then. 216 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Like, what's the point of anything, what's going on? What 217 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: are we all doing? Like what? 218 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 219 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes, I really do understand that. 220 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 3: So I really like leaned into the grieving because I 221 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: knew I had to go through it. You can't go around, 222 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: you can't, you know, you got to just go through it. 223 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: And so she passed May second. By September, I had 224 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: a reading with Maryanne de Marco, the medium, And have 225 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 3: you ever had a reading with her? No, you'd love her. 226 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: My mom reached out to her and she connected. She's like, 227 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: I know this sounds, you know, probably crazy to you, 228 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: but your mom really wants to connect with you. So 229 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: we connected in a session and From that moment on, 230 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: I felt lifted and so much better and was able 231 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: to kind of proceed with life. 232 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: Ah interesting, you know, like I. 233 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: Was kind of grinding along still. I was building a 234 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: website at the time, and I was, you know, grudging 235 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: through everything. But then after that I felt better, and so, yeah, 236 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: it was it was kind of a rough thing, and 237 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: then some health stuff started accumulating, and I was like 238 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: trying to get to the bottom of everything. What is this, 239 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: what's happening? Why is my stomach bloated? Why am I 240 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: not why is something wrong? And nobody can figure it out? 241 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: And funny enough, I had a listener just recently reach 242 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: out to us and say, you predicted all of this 243 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: stuff over a year ago, and you watch this show 244 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: and I'm saying, how I know something's wrong. They can't 245 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: tell me what it is, and they kind of just 246 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: give up after they do a test rather than say yeah, 247 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: they'll do the test and they'll say, oh, there's nothing there, 248 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: and they give up. And I'm like, wait, but why 249 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: is the investigation stopping? And you hear me on the 250 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: show saying all of this bee and I'm like, I said, 251 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: but I'm going to keep going and we have oh 252 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: funny enough, and we have this medium on the show, 253 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: Marian DeMarco, and she's going to teach us how to 254 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: tune in our bodies. So maybe this will help us 255 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: all in our journeys as we try to figure out 256 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: mysteries like this. And I literally go like this. I 257 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: look up to the sky or the roof of my 258 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: studio and I say, you know, for example, I think 259 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: there's something wrong with my pancreas. I said that last April, 260 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: and I didn't realize what I was doing, but I 261 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: was tuning in in that moment. I just didn't connect 262 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: the dots. And so two months later I was diagnosed 263 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: with type one diabetes. First instinct was I don't have this, 264 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: and I went to a natural path and started a 265 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: whole new journey. And she's like, I don't think you 266 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: have this either. At that point, they probably should have 267 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: done an ultrasound on my pancreas at forty three or 268 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: forty four. To I was turning forty four, to be 269 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: getting type one diabetes made no sense. I had quit 270 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: sugar two or three years prior to that, so that 271 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: I would never have anything like that happen. And so 272 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: I went on this whole healing journey and then started 273 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 3: getting these horrible pains, like I think I'm dying. Went 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: to the hospital in November. They scan everything, they say 275 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: you're fine. So anytime I complained thereafter, they said, well, 276 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: we just did a scan and it says everything's fine. Well, 277 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: at that point, I had a tumor on my pancreas 278 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: that was two centimeters. They missed it. It then grew 279 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: to four centimeters by January. And I was at Anastasia 280 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: Sore's house in December for her birthday and this woman 281 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: came up to me and she's like, you need to 282 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: come to our facility. We do full body Mriyes, you 283 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: have to come. You have to come. And so I went, 284 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: and I was nervous because I had a feeling and 285 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm very intuitive and I'm very connected, and I knew 286 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: something was wrong. And they were like, you have a 287 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: large mass on your pancreas. You need to go to 288 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: the hospital right now. And I was like what. I 289 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: remember looking at him and my eyes kind of welled 290 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: and I was like, so, Magonner, huh, because the only 291 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: thing you know about with pancreas tumors is you're dead. Right, 292 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: and here I am like, I can't believe I have 293 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: a baby on the way and I might not get 294 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: to meet her. It was crazy. 295 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: Oh my, that is that is unbelieving. 296 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: It's really I've reached out to you when I heard, 297 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: which wasn't that long ago, just because I was like, 298 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: what the hell she's been through so much and well 299 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about like. 300 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: How thank you for reaching out, by the way, because 301 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: you were so sweet, or like anything you need. And 302 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know you mean it. 303 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: I do mean it. I do mean it. I do 304 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: mean it. 305 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: But just to go back to what you said about 306 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: the CEO aspect, it's so funny because. 307 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: I have this. 308 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: I've had this autoimmune issue and many people say it's 309 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: exacerbated by vaccines, and you know, you get very confused, 310 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: and to your point, you get excited, like motivated, like 311 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: anything like someone working out or someone juice fasting or 312 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: eating healthy or whatever anyone does. I was like excited, 313 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, And you get the notebooks 314 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: out and you're ready to go, and everyone pulls you 315 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: in different directions, everyone and everything sounds good. Oh it 316 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: must be your gut, it has to be this is it? 317 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: A breast implant? 318 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Is it this? Do you have lime disease? 319 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: And you really have to stay so strong in the middle, 320 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: because if you did that with your business, you would fail. 321 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: If everybody pulled you in fifty different directions and you 322 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: said yes to every single thing every day or socially, 323 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: you'd be a disaster. So I was going this way 324 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: and talking to anyone, and I would say, you're the 325 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: CEO unless you can find a good doctor that doesn't 326 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: even have to be a genius, like a human being concierge, 327 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: that can be the center of that wheel with all 328 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: those spokes and connect to different things and at least 329 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: dispel Well that's bullshit. Well that guy isn't Alwa's talking about. 330 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: That guy seems like you might know what he's talking 331 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: about because I flew across the country to go see somebody, 332 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: and then people were coming out and saying that guy 333 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: doesn't even do that, Like this person targeted you and 334 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: wants to use you for social and they don't even 335 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: do that. And then they're telling me ten different things. 336 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: And the truth is, even with people that don't do 337 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: whatever this is, you pick up little breadcrumbs along the 338 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: way and you learn things even people don't even know 339 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Like you'll learn something, you'll learn 340 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: something that's wrong, something it's right, and. 341 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: It's case law. 342 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: You're just saying, like that doesn't work. Remember that thing, 343 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: it didn't work, So it's not that and you got 344 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: to kind of be really organized and like pull together 345 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: your own thing. And no doctor is some wizard. They're 346 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: just an accumulation of medical information that they've studied, trial 347 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: and error that they've deduced. I like a doctor that 348 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: says they don't know, but they're willing to look to 349 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: find out. Like I don't like someone who says they'ren 350 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: export because no one can be an expert on all 351 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: these things. 352 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love what you said. They're an accumulation of 353 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: information that they've read and researched and studied. You know. 354 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Tony Robbins put it really, really best in his most 355 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: recent book about health. He said, doctors can be sincere, 356 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: but they can be sincerely wrong as well. And I 357 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: think that, like my mission with my show Bethany is 358 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 3: to help people see what the medical world is for 359 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: what it is. Kind of it's like here's what you're 360 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 3: not seeing, here's what you're not understanding. Let's get the 361 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: foundation right here. They are. The Western world is amazing 362 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: at surgeries, prescribing, pretty good at diagnosing, right. There are 363 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 3: a lot of diagnostics that they have to help us 364 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: kind of get to the bottom of some stuff. But 365 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 3: you know, there's some things that are going to fall 366 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: through the cracks. Healing is not on the list for them. 367 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: And from that process like X rays, like process blood tests, 368 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: urine test x rays. 369 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: That's what I was saying, the diagnostics. 370 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly so. 371 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: But when you talk to really, really, really high level doctors, 372 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: they will tell you the number one goal of a 373 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: hospital or a doctor's office is not to get sued. 374 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: The number two goal is business, make money. That's what 375 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: is on their top two. Unfortunately, and I've had so 376 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: many people come on my show Double Triple Board certified 377 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: Zach Bush. He's like, I went to medical school thinking 378 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: I was going to heal people. I woke up and 379 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: realized I was a pharmacist. They get a year of 380 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: pharmacology in medical school. They get a couple of hours 381 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: of nutrition. Hippocrates said, the father of medicine said, let 382 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: food be thy medicine, what are we doing? Something is 383 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: backwards so it's not the doctor's individual faults. It's the system. 384 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: It's the system and how it's set up, and the 385 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: and the business of it all. So we as the. 386 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: That's divorced too. It's the same story with divorce and lawyers. 387 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. They're there to make money and 388 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: you need them as a tool. So the doctors you 389 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: need as a tool, but they have other goals as well. 390 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: And it's exactly to your point. It's to cover your 391 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: ass model. It's in most industries. It exists, and you 392 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: just have to know how to use them as a tool. 393 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: And I mean divorce for one second. What I have 394 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: seen is everybody gets a lawyer and then each side 395 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: has to nuke the other side. It can't be friendly, 396 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: it can't be. You got to nuke them so that 397 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: someone gives in a little so that you'll get to 398 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: kind of this instead of going to like, you know, 399 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: one million dollars, you're going to get to five hundred thousand. 400 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: The you know, the goal is going to be to 401 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: get to five hundred. But they get a nukequu to 402 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: think you're gonna get this. They they make it so 403 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: much worse. They have to say the worst things about 404 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: each other. They have to they have to lie, cheat still, 405 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: whatever it takes, and then somebody gives in or then 406 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: they're finally just going to get to here where you 407 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: could have just gotten there from beginning anyway. 408 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: No, so, but that's that. 409 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: There's an analogy with the medicine too. I think like 410 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: you cout me come in and versus you start in 411 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: with the whole macro and get overwhelmed and like you 412 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: think you solved it because it's this thing and you 413 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: chase that dream and then it's something else. 414 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: So I really do get it. I have to send you. 415 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Did someone ever send you one of those big like 416 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: medical beautiful binders. 417 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: This company sent me this gorgeous it looks like. 418 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: This navy blue leather with tabs and sections, and it 419 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: looks like the ultimate trapper keeper for your health. I 420 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: think there should be one for divorce for health. It's 421 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: so smart because you do go to these doctors with these, 422 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, folders. So this has been a big part 423 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: of your and it is defining you in some way. 424 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: Like I think of you and this whole part of 425 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: your life as kind of the main part of your 426 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: life and used to be someone you know, a beautiful 427 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: girl in the entertainment industry that used to do interviews 428 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: on the red carpet, and now I really that's been 429 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: sort of rinse, and I really think of you this way. 430 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: So how does it not define you? Though in a 431 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: way that's like doom and gloom, like these medical daunting 432 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: things that for like words like cancer and pancreation, you know, 433 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: brain tumor, like these things that are just gigantic one 434 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: of these things happening, and your mom died, like this 435 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: is a lot of stuff on you, like energetically, and 436 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: so I wonder how do you have it define what 437 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: you're doing but not define you? 438 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, fabulous question. Never actually thought about it 439 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: outside of this, Like when this pancreas tumor thing happened, 440 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: it's a neuroendocrine tumor, and you know, it wasn't like 441 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 3: the doctor was like you have cancer, you're dying or 442 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 3: anything like that. There was moments where we didn't know 443 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: what kind of tumor it was and it was really scary, 444 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: and you're on that cliff and on the ledge of 445 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: death and you're like having conversations with Kevin saying this 446 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: is how I want you to raise our daughter. This 447 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: is what I want you to do. Like, it was 448 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: kind of crazy, but when I got the diagnosis, he said, 449 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: it's a neuroendocrine tumor, and I'm like, is it pancreas cancer. 450 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: He's like, yes, it's a pancreas cancer, but it's not 451 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: the worst pancreas cancer. He goes, there are two buckets. 452 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: If you could be in any bucket, you want to 453 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: be in your bucket, and the same thing happened with 454 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: the brain tumor. If you can be in any bucket, 455 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: you don't want to be in your mom's bucket. You 456 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: want to be in this bucket. Okay. So somehow these 457 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: crazy things happen or have happened, and I am able 458 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: to come out the other side, and so I'm super grateful. 459 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: When this happened with the tumor and the pancreas, I 460 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: was scared to say something about it because I'm like, 461 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, people are going to think I'm this fragile, 462 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: sick person and I'm not. I'm vibrant and healthy. I 463 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: know that there are things that have gone wrong, and 464 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: I know that COVID definitely played a role in a 465 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: lot of stuff. That's gone wrong. But I know I'm 466 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: a healthy person. But there was also this thing that 467 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: I couldn't I have a show that's dedicated to life 468 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: improvement and health and wellness, very very heavily focused in health. 469 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: How could I not tell the truth? Even just not 470 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: telling my audience in that timeframe hurt me so much, 471 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: And so it was a dark secret I was keeping. 472 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: But then to not be able to tell people that 473 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: there is a way. So that episode last April, when 474 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: I was saying I know something's wrong, and I was 475 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: researching thermography, I was researching all these things to see 476 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: what other way can I figure out what's happening with me? 477 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: And this full body MRI. It's not at the hospital. 478 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: This is an outside facility. Because I'm not saying people 479 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: should go get full BODYMRIS and get get lineum injected 480 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: in their veins constantly. That's not what I'm saying. This 481 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: is a very safe procedure. But if you have something 482 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: you suspect something is wrong and your doctors are not 483 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: listening to you. There you know a lot of women 484 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: don't get heard unfortunately, and they make us feel like 485 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: we're crazy. I'm really blessed to have a doctor who 486 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: is so on board and so on sync with me, 487 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: and he really saved my life because he kept pushing 488 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: everyone to move faster. 489 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: And faster exactly. 490 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: But but he was your concent he was like, yeah, center. 491 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: And they made fun of him. They're like, this is nothing. 492 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: This is maybe pancreatitis or inflammation. But he's, you know, 493 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: up our ass to get this biopsy done. So we're 494 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: going to do it. But you're fine, We've been doing 495 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: this for twenty years. These are very elite doctors, by 496 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: the way, of course, and I hate even saying that, 497 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: but you know, it's the truth. They did say that, 498 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: and and they gas lit him and me in the 499 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: room before I went for the biopsy, and then after 500 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: it was like, well, I guess it's something, and I'm 501 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: like okay, And he kept pushing to move things faster 502 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: and faster. And what's crazy is it went from grade 503 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 3: one to grade two so fast. And so anyhow, my 504 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: point is the reason I had to come out about 505 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: this and kind of say whatever is going to happen 506 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: is going to happen, and people's perceptions of me is 507 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: people needed to know that there's another option and getting 508 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 3: these full body MRIs is another option. If you know 509 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: something's wrong inside of you, they will find it. They're 510 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: incentivized to find it because it's their only job and 511 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 3: their only mission. Now, they're very expensive. I understand that, 512 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: and I'm working on getting them covered for people with 513 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: Grant and a few other people because I know they 514 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: know how to do it. With the insurance companies. It 515 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: behooves them to do this because if you catch something early, 516 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 3: that patient is going to cost them far less than 517 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: if they catch it later. So I was like, Okay, 518 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: people say, turn your mess into your mission or whatever 519 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: the hell they say. I don't know, Like I'm going 520 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: to figure this out for people, you know, Do I 521 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: worry that people think these things of me. I still want, 522 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: you know, to work in this business. They still want 523 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: to do things. I have such an energy and such 524 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: a I love having fun and do I. 525 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: I meant more from you, not what people think though, 526 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Like I meant, I think you're this person. I don't 527 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: think of you as weak. I think of you as 528 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: a person who's like on this path to help, like 529 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: not only your own health obviously, but just like you 530 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: are passionate about this. You've been through it and you're 531 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: communicator messenger. I meant within you, like you feeling like 532 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: you got scared, you weren't gonna be able to be 533 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: a mother to your daughter, and that you had all 534 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: these things happen, like for you, for it to be 535 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: for you to get out of the purgatory you said 536 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: you were in, like for you to be you know, 537 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: perky and silly and lighthearted and like, you know, not have. 538 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: It to find you. 539 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: For you. 540 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I get to party for people unless 541 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you may think that. I don't see you 542 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: like that. I see you as like strong and a survivor. 543 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: But maybe that's what you meant that you don't want 544 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: you don't want everyone to thank you as that. 545 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what that was my worry, because you 546 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: know it would. This has just been a very crazy, 547 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: you know, crazy situation. But uh, for me, I think 548 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 3: the only thing I feel is at times some paranoia. 549 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: If I like, there was a period and the healing 550 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: that happened. I remember being in Maui and I was 551 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: having really sharp pains and I was like, oh my god, 552 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: oh my god, what is this. You know, you're getting scared, 553 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: And then my doctors were like it's just things reconnecting. 554 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 3: You're healing inside, and I'm like okay, and then I 555 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: have to just pray. And then I have to remember 556 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: that I'm guided and unprotected, and I have to use 557 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 3: all my tools that I've learned on the show and 558 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 3: implement them. And then I calm down and then everything 559 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: gets better. And so those pains have gone away and 560 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: I do feel better and I'm like okay, but there 561 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: are things that will pop up. Like the other day, 562 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 3: I was having pain in my side. I'm like, oh 563 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: my god, is that my kidney? Oh my god? And 564 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: so I just prayed to Saint Niktarios or healing Saint. 565 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: I said, please, can you just remove that pain and 566 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: heal whatever's there? And it worked and I was like, okay, 567 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: thank you. 568 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: So and how has and has Kevin been on his 569 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: own roller coaster ride too? 570 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: Like scared? 571 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: And you have a baby, and you're married, and you 572 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: got everything that you want and you worked at your 573 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: family issues and now has how has he been handling 574 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: everything emotionally? 575 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: This one terrified him. This one we were both like 576 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: fetal position, like what the heck? Because, like I said, 577 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: there was a moment we thought he was going to 578 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: be raising this baby alone, and that sounds really scary. 579 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: But he's been a trooper and he's been a great caretaker. 580 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: And I just said to him, I go, I just 581 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: don't know why in this lifetime. When I met him 582 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: at nineteen, what sealed the deal for me? First of all, 583 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm attracted him. But I remember 584 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: him telling me that he took massage therapy classes to 585 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: heal his dad of pain because his dad had cancer. 586 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, wow, yeah, And I remember thinking, 587 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: oh my god, you're a caretaker. Done, I'm going to 588 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: make you fall in love with me. I don't know why, Bethany, 589 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: at nineteen, I thought I needed a caretaker. But I 590 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: am very intuitive and I must have known inside of me, 591 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: but not only to me, my dad, my mom during 592 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: COVID to protect us, he would take my mom to 593 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: chemo to the hospital and it was not easy because 594 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: my mom had a lot of kind of brain damage 595 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: and she had a lot hard time walking at some 596 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: point with her left side. It was a real job 597 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: and he loved it. He loved those days. He's like, 598 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: they're my favorite days. We have so much fun together. 599 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 3: So he's had this caretaking job this whole time, and 600 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: so yeah, he's I don't know why God has giving 601 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: you so many care taking jobs. I'm so sorry. 602 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: As important thing in life, thinking about that, like as 603 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: a people don't talk enough about not doctors, not medical professionals, 604 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: but the caretaker. That's like the day and day at 605 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: the morale, the real like feeding the spirit and the soul. 606 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: Very interesting. 607 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: It's funny because I started this meditation program last January 608 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: and it changed my life. And one of the things 609 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: I focused on was full mind, body and soul healing, 610 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: and a lot of people in my life, like Abby Bernstein, 611 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: she was like, you know, sometimes when tumors come up, 612 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: it's a good thing, they say, because it's coming to 613 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: the surface to get out. And one of the things 614 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: I kept saying is I want to be super healthy. 615 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: And I see myself with like a superhero cape that 616 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: says super healthy and when she arrives and so funny enough, 617 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: all of this stuff came to surface at this point 618 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: so that it could all go away. And that because 619 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: my goal is and I say in my head, I 620 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: want to I want her to know when she lands 621 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: on my chest that I'm super healthy. I want to 622 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: know who she is and that we're going the distance together. 623 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: That's all I want. 624 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice. Oh my god. So you have 625 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: a big summer plan. Wow? Yeah Wow? 626 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: So what else are you working on? I know that 627 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: you're acting. I didn't even know that you were. I mean, 628 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: I know that because I I was reading back. It's 629 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: so funny to read someone's bio that like you know them. 630 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, I remember sitting with Brinn and talking 631 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: about One Tree Hill when we were watching it rewatch 632 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: it during the pandemic. I'm like, I'm friends with her, 633 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: but I sort of had forgotten until I read it 634 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: again today. So I didn't even know that acting was 635 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: like a real passion of yours. Was that the first 636 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: thing that was before hosting? 637 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, if it's a passion, it's it's 638 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: super fun. I really enjoy it. I have done it 639 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: kind of in tandem with my hosting throughout the years, 640 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: so there have been you know, the Fantastic Four or 641 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: any of the things that I've done, and then recently 642 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: got into Christmas movies and my husband and I are 643 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: obsessed with Christmas movies. It was on my bucket list 644 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: and right after my mom died. I got connected with 645 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: my friend Ryan and he was like, we're going to 646 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: be in Connecticut shooting. I'm like, I'm in Connecticut right now. 647 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: So it all worked out. And so Kevin and I 648 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: are building a production company now and building a fund 649 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: so we can make these Christmas movies that people love already. 650 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: But we're like, let's just take them up a notch, right, 651 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: take them up one notch? 652 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: And what does that mean? 653 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: Like, you mean quality notch humor notch or yeah, I want. 654 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: To make I want to make even better Christmas movies. 655 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So when is the first why? And you're 656 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: in them or of them? 657 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: We're well, I've been into I did one last year 658 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: and this year this time because of the baby, I 659 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 3: won't be able to film one this summer, so this 660 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: Christmas will probably be out. But we are in the 661 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: process of building this fund and so by next year 662 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: we'll be making them. 663 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: That I love. That. That's so fun. What's the production 664 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: company called? 665 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: H We haven't figured out the name yet. 666 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, And so what do you spend most of 667 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: your time doing besides doing your show? Like, are you 668 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: what else are you doing? You're not writing? 669 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: Because you don't like to write, So what how do you? 670 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: How do you bounce? 671 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: Like? 672 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: What does your time pie look like now leading into 673 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: having a baby. What's the biggest percentage of time spent 674 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: on Well? 675 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: I do my show a couple times a week, so 676 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: we're a daily show. Kevin does one day. It's kind 677 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: of like we go to school Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 678 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: and then Kevin's the fun on the Friday slash he 679 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: does his priest sermons and so the show is my 680 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: big focus. And then you know, I do random, you know, 681 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: commercial stuff, or I fill in for Kelly like you 682 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: do and ONLVE with Kelly and Mark. Now and my 683 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: plate has really just been filled right now with healing 684 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: and getting ready for baby. And so just the other 685 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: day we set up all the stuff in the house. 686 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 3: We're like, okay, I need to know how to use 687 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: this stuff, like this bugaboo carriage and all this you know, 688 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: mama rou like bascinettes and snooze and the whole thing. 689 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: I don't know how to use any of this stuff. 690 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: It was so it's that easy, right, No friends come over. 691 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: Did you feel the same way? 692 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: I felt the same way? 693 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: I felt that don't over complicate it because you use 694 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: the simplest stuff and the same thing with them, they 695 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: use the simple stuff, meaning your child as they get older. 696 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: But I was I had a PREMI and I was 697 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: very just like I was scared to leave thet I 698 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: didn't understand how to just like we go for a walk. 699 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: I have this tiny, fragile being and now we go 700 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: out for a walk, like why what are we doing? 701 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: The baby doesn't know what's going on, but like it's 702 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: the fresh air and you just feel like you need 703 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: to leave the house. And then that path the only 704 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: thing I really do love and it doesn't have to 705 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: be whatever the brand is. The patpoos on the chest thing, 706 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: like that's a great thing because it just means you're 707 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: just like you're ready to go. 708 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: It's what do you mean your cat poos on the chair? 709 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: I didn't have the pat the baby on your chest, 710 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: Like you take a walk and it's just like you 711 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: guys together, And that was I mean I don't really exercise, 712 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: but like taking walks to go places that just felt 713 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: very freeing because I felt very clunky with. 714 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: A stroller and all the stuff. So I liked the 715 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: Kangaroo program. 716 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the Kangaroo Program too, so I had 717 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: to learn how to use that thing because one of 718 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: them is just like it's just this in little cloth 719 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: thing or like like the thinnest T shirt you've ever 720 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: had material, and you have to wrap it around and 721 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: do it all yourself. It's just this one more piece. 722 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, wait, but this thing's so thin, 723 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: how is she not going to fall out of this? 724 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 3: And I was so scared, so I put a stuffed 725 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: animal in and I was practicing. But it's been fun, 726 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: Like it's it's so crazy to have a baby later 727 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: in life. I think it's it's such a cool thing 728 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 3: because I'm going to give her all of my time. 729 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was a lot of it. 730 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 3: You know. 731 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: I was late thirty, so I was later too, and 732 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: it's funny you're bringing me back. I The one thing 733 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I did learn was that when everyone would say how 734 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: you balance work and being a mom, was that I 735 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: was really present and am present in both, like because 736 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: you try to do both at the same time. You're 737 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: trying to like I would be running out of photoshoots, 738 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: like taking food from the photoshoots so I could bring 739 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: it to her because I didn't want to be gone 740 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: for a second, and she wouldn't even notice. Like you 741 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: get in your head about this stuff that doesn't matter, 742 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: and every class and every rug that has letters and 743 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: numbers on it and they don't know. You just like 744 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: kind of feel like you should be doing everything, and 745 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a little it's too much. You don't need 746 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: to be so crazed. And also then to be really 747 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: just present in work, but versus like checking in all 748 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: the time and being obsessed with not being there and 749 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: the guilt, like it's just it doesn't serve you, that 750 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: guilt in both directions that being torn. 751 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: I found. 752 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you feel about having an only child? 753 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 3: How has that worked for you? Because we're kind of 754 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 3: getting cozy with the idea now. I love it. 755 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: I love it. She loves it. I was an only child. 756 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't even think of it as a thing, like 757 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: it's not and she doesn't think of it as a thing. 758 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: I've loved it. I mean, being a mother is the 759 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: best thing in the world. It's the greatest thing if 760 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: you like get your own relationship with it, like not 761 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: getting caught up in your head and taking everyone's opinions 762 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: because you don't know anybody who has a perfect child 763 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: or that's a perfect parent, So like getting worried about 764 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: doing things right or wrong, you know, I just I 765 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: didn't have a nanny, And I don't say that like 766 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm some hero or anything. I had a baby nurse 767 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: for a while, but I liked later always doing the 768 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: bath myself and always doing these things because if I 769 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: had had some one there, I would have relied, the 770 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: muscle would have gotten weak because you have someone there 771 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: to do it. So of course the bath is a 772 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: pain in the ass sometimes like things are pains in 773 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: the ass, but when you do them yourself. 774 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: It's like it's really nice. 775 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: And I really really stuck to that schedule because it's 776 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: your only friend. So when they're sleeping, it's your only friend. 777 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: Is that schedule? 778 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about like what I've been doing, I'm 779 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: reading books. Yeah, I'm trying to because it's like it's 780 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 3: like a business, like it's a whole other world you 781 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: have to delve into and learn about. Not that you're 782 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: gonna do things perfect, but just an awareness of a 783 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: schedule even being important. 784 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and awareness of schedule, the consistency and the schedule 785 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: is important. But you'll learn most everything from the baby 786 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: in front of you. But I do think that that 787 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: was something safe and you make up your it's it's 788 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: like same with the dog. Every four hours, you're letting 789 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: them up for a while, like you know, it's like 790 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it was three and a half 791 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: hours or five and a half hours, whatever thing you 792 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: decided with your dog that worked. 793 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 2: It's like that you just have to. 794 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Stick to something that seems like, you know, some program 795 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: that you can adhere to just for your own sanity, 796 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: you know. 797 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: Kevin jokes, he chokes that he's been in the infant 798 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: stages for twenty plus years with our dogs, that they 799 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 3: wake them up every three hours anyway. So he's like, 800 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: what's the difference? 801 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: Not a lot. Well, we'll see where. You'll let me know. 802 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: They say, which made me very sad. They say, when 803 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: you have a baby, your dog becomes a dog because 804 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: your dog's are your babies. And when Ellen DeGeneres on 805 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: her show asked me to debate, does to Brennan Cookie 806 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: my dog who passed get along, and I said, they 807 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: do get along, and it'd be unfortunate to have to 808 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: give away the baby. 809 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: So I'm glad they do. 810 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: I die for you. That's amazing. 811 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: I could be hard hard to have to give away 812 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: a child cook he was there eighteen years. Sorry, just 813 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: a new baby, you know. 814 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 815 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: So I love you, yeah, yep, yeah. 816 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: So well, I'm really really happy to know you. I'm 817 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: really happy for your success, and I'm so sorry you've 818 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: been through such tragedy. But I mean, I hate to 819 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: refer to it the way that I think of divorce 820 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: with the world. Worst thing that ever happened to me 821 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: was my wretched, horrendous ten year divorce, And while going 822 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: through it, I would say to myself, like, this is 823 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: happening for a reason. I know it's happening for a reason. 824 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: It's one golf hole. There are eighteen holes. One day 825 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: I'll be done with this and I'll be able to 826 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: help other people. I mean, and I really am an 827 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: expert on divorce. And like you didn't go to medical 828 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: school and I didn't go to law school, but I 829 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: am an expert on every aspect of divorce. So you're 830 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: an expert on many many things as it pertains to 831 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: health and at least the whole industry, you're definitely an 832 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: expert on, So you really can help other people. 833 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's always been my underpinning in life, right 834 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to help people. I love helping people, 835 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 3: and so I don't look at them as tragedies. I 836 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: look at them as opportunities for growth. I've grown so much, 837 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: I've learned so much. I know that I'm so freaking strong. 838 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: I know that I can handle anything that comes my way. 839 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: My faith has become more and more rooted and strengthened 840 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: every single second of every day. Even though I thought 841 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: it was the most may like it couldn't get any better, 842 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 3: it does get better and better, and so I keep 843 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: becoming a better person because of all of it. So 844 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for the journey. I know that, you know, 845 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 3: there's nothing I can do. It is what it is, 846 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: and so I'm going to do the best I can 847 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: to roll positively through things. And that's why I love 848 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 3: my show, because I learn how to do that through here. 849 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 3: Every single day, I'm getting tools to help me, you know, 850 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 3: ride those crazy waves of life, and they're gonna happen. 851 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 3: Problems come, but they are opportunities for growth, and we're 852 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: not going to see it like that right away. And 853 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: by the way, when I was facing what I was facing, 854 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 3: I was shook. But at some point I remember looking 855 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: at my mantle with all my icons, and I say 856 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 3: all my prayers every night for everybody and everyone who's 857 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 3: sick in my life, and I was like, this doesn't 858 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 3: make any sense, and I just kept saying it, and 859 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: then I realized it doesn't make sense. So why do 860 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 3: I have to look at it like this is the end? 861 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 3: Why can't I look at it like perhaps it's not 862 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 3: going to be the story the way I think of it. 863 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: I had someone on the show that said, choose wonder 864 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 3: over worry, So I started saying, I wonder what it's 865 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: going to be like when the doctors call with good news. 866 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 3: I wonder what it's going to be like when I 867 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: get through the surgery easily. I wonder what it's going 868 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: to be like when I hear that there's no cancer 869 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: spread anywhere, which is what I did here and once 870 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: I started doing that. So if I can give you guys, 871 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: one massive tip aside from the other stuff, choose wonder 872 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 3: over worry. It helps you and you also help manifest 873 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 3: the things that you start wondering about because you get 874 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 3: into this creative mode and the quantum and everything starts, 875 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 3: you know, conspiring in the universe to work in your favor, 876 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 3: so choose wonder and those things started happening instantly when 877 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: I started doing it. 878 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like your combination of an emotional person 879 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: and a problem solver. So you have something that happens 880 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: to you that's certainly not fortunate in that moment, and 881 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: you're probably struggling with like the emotionality of it, like 882 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: not just being because I get accused of like I'm 883 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: in mode immediately as you described earlier, so like you're 884 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: in mode too, but you have to also deal with 885 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: the emotionality of your partner of having a baby girl 886 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: coming like it's it must be interesting to balance both 887 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: of those elements because you just could jump over the 888 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: emotion and get right into problem solving, but you're kind 889 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: of dealing with both. 890 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I kind of do get in a problem 891 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 3: solver fast. That's why you and I connect so much. 892 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 3: And now I'm having to, Okay, I got to go 893 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 3: into therapy now and really hash this out, because yes, 894 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: I moved through things so fast. Same sounds like Maria. 895 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 3: You go through things that are so crazy so quickly, 896 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 3: it's like it never happened, but it did happen, and 897 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: you need to process it, agreed. 898 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: But that's my proble exactly, Like because you're like, well, no, 899 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go here and I'm gonna do that. I'm 900 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna talk to that person. I got this, I got 901 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: this notebook, this number two pencil, and I'm ready. And 902 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: it's like, right, but you just heard this crazy news 903 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: and you have a daughter and a mom that you 904 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: know this stuff. I have the same. That's why I 905 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: said it. Because you're very You can solve any problem, 906 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: but the emotionality of it has to catch up too. 907 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I lived for a guiver. I'm sure you did too. 908 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 3: I lived for that shows because I was like, my 909 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 3: favorite thing is to solve stuff and to figure it out. 910 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 3: So we do have to lean into our emotions and 911 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 3: we have to feel everything, but we can't get stuck there. 912 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 3: That's the key. 913 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: Now, you can't wear it is part of your story, 914 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: but you don't wear it as your story, which is 915 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: an interesting distinction. Well, I'm so, I'm so glad to 916 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: talk to you, Love you so much, have a great day, 917 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: and thanks for doing this. 918 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: Of course, like I said, if you need a health collaborator. Okay, 919 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: I'm here. 920 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: Awesome. Tell Kevin, I said hello. 921 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, he sends his love too. He loves you. 922 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: Okay, have a gret bye bye. Marie is wonderful. She's 923 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: beautiful inside and out. She is physically beautiful, she is 924 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: beautiful inside. She is a really good person. She is 925 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: genuinely interested in helping and loving and I respect that 926 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: she's been in such a long term relationship with someone 927 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: she's known since she's nineteen, who helped her take care 928 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: of her family. She's been through so much and she's 929 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: paying it forward, and I just really think she's wonderful. 930 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for listening, rate, review, and subscribe, 931 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: and have a wonderful day.