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Speaker 2: Football? Probably probably the biggest.

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Speaker 1: Who's your team?

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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packer? I actually I worked the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: And they just wanted my team now that just won

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So I just that was the first time

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Speaker 3: I asked you went man came a long way in

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Speaker 1: That's like such an underdog, awesome story. Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with Names. I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and

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Speaker 1: we're on a mission to find the greatest game of

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Speaker 1: all time or this the greatest fight of all time.

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Speaker 1: And on today's episode, we are covering the UFC fifty

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Speaker 1: two Couture versus Lddell two with Hall of Famer and

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Speaker 1: one of the goats of the sport, the Iceman himself,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Laddell, and we get into talking his legendary rivalry

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Speaker 1: with Randy Couture.

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Speaker 2: Great opponent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a really tough guy, really good dirty boxing,

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Speaker 1: If Chuck could beat Mike Tyson in a street fight.

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Speaker 2: See on one shot. After that, he always felt like

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Speaker 1: And how his entourage cameo came to be.

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Speaker 2: I asked everybody I knew to get they can get

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Speaker 2: me on the show. I just want to walk on

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Speaker 2: the AID events.

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Speaker 1: And then we hit the old chill line in this

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Speaker 1: week's Chill Zone, presented by cors like you gotta stick

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Speaker 1: around to the very end. Games with Names the production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio April sixteenth, two thousand and five MGM Grand Arena,

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Speaker 3: It's in two years to make this rematch a reality,

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Speaker 3: but it only took one round for the Iceman to finish.

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Speaker 1: Shit.

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Speaker 4: This is the Iceman comeing.

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Speaker 1: I wanted I let you go first. Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with Names. We have a very special guest. We have

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Speaker 1: Chuck Liddell in the nuthouse to talk about the UFC

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Speaker 1: fifty two match between Couture and Laddell two two at

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Speaker 1: the height of what UFC was gonna become. This was

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Speaker 1: like the This was the you know when you're starting

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Speaker 1: lighter fluid on there. That's what this was for the UFC.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Welcome to the nuthouse. In one sentence, why'd you

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Speaker 1: pick this fight?

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Speaker 3: I wanted revenge and I wanted the title. My manager

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Speaker 3: at the time quick over me insisting on taking this

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Speaker 3: to doing the show to get the chant title.

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Speaker 2: I get another.

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Speaker 3: Title shot because I'd lost the first time and if

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I want the title and if I don't, if I

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Speaker 3: So it was for me to do it because I

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Speaker 1: You want to be the title, Is this the greatest

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But when people ask me all the time, they asked me,

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Speaker 1: One, this is it because it was the first time

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Speaker 3: And I did it the way I like to do it,

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Speaker 1: We had everything worked perfect, clean knockout. We'll jump into it.

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Speaker 1: That's freaking awesome. What are you up to these days?

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Speaker 2: Raising my kids?

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Speaker 1: Enjoying retirement. It's never really retirement though you're transitioning. It's

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Speaker 1: for me my first year out, I was it was tough.

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Speaker 3: There was always that and for me, like I'm a

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Speaker 1: Now you said, maniac, you're a maniac. I I I

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Speaker 3: You know, honestly, I just really like fighting. I liked

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I got no problem with you. Was you

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Speaker 2: You were gonna beat him up? Right? He doesn't want

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Speaker 3: So he said a lot, did a lot of that,

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Speaker 1: Now I was I was reading about you, and I

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Speaker 3: A lot of it, I think, man, I keep thinking, right,

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Speaker 3: my grandpa's always proud of me. Like, if if you

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Speaker 3: You give it a one hundred percent, you lose. No one

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Speaker 3: As long as you go out there and bust your ass,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be mad. Growing up with my grandmother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was ninety eight to look at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll watch just about anything. Yeah, I like all

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I love fighting. I still love boxing, kickboxing.

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Speaker 3: Alex where he's a beast. Yeah, I love watching him fight.

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Speaker 1: It looked bad, bad decision. That's why there's so much

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Speaker 3: We've never done jiu jitsu. You know, it's just there

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Speaker 3: I just I just like actually was forced to do

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing back then, that was one of

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Speaker 3: Right, there's striking different all the different rating, there's submissions

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Speaker 3: He didn't take me down, but he if we wrestled

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Speaker 3: So I just worked on getting out and standing up

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Speaker 3: and I figured out, if I get halfway through roll

442
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 3: to that neebar and they're defending the kneebar, I just

443
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 3: pulled my leg out and stand up and it worked

444
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,159
Speaker 3: really great. So I would I would catch guys my

445
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 3: surprise a lot back then.

446
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, now did you see any of your rest

447
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 1: Like what position you playing football? Were you a linebacker?

448
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean you got it. He gotta be a linebacker.

449
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 1: So did you do you think you got any of

450
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 1: your striking or your fucking explosiveness from learning how to tackle?

451
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 3: Everything played into it. Yeah, and I like to hit

452
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 3: that one of my things.

453
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 1: But I played with Steve Neil and he he didn't

454
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 1: play football in college. You have you heard Steve Neil

455
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 1: was a badass, motherfucking wrestler, and yeah, he played Misfield. Yeah,

456
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 1: he Bakersfield. He's a big Bakersfield guy. And he didn't

457
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 1: know it. He didn't play any football.

458
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 3: He came out, I would to tell poll, So, yeah,

459
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 3: that's we.

460
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,479
Speaker 2: Run all that time.

461
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 3: We packed that but yeah, uh we were packed ten

462
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 3: and technically for wrestling.

463
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's the only reason they still have wrestling

464
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: because he still feeds the fucking program bro Like but like,

465
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 1: it's just so crazy because he was one of the

466
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: most athletic guys I've ever seen on the field.

467
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 2: Like he's one of those heavyweight wrestlers that wrestled like

468
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 2: a one eighteen founder exactly.

469
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 3: It's normally a little bit a little bit slower, different,

470
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 3: different style of wrestling. You know, you get bigger, styles

471
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 3: get different, right, he was wrestling at he does the

472
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: heavyweight I could think a one ag bounder.

473
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Speaker 1: And that's how he got on the linebackers. He got

474
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: on linebackers at the second level. Really good lineman. Getting

475
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: to the second level is the tough part is getting

476
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 1: to those fast fucking linebackers, you know, battling with those

477
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: big boys they could do that, so they got to

478
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: bounce off that guy and get to that second level

479
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 1: and try to catch a fast guy. And Steve was

480
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: so fucking good at that. It's probably because of all

481
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: the rest.

482
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wrestling transfer that way really well because that

483
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: is the body on body contact. That's why, like for me,

484
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 3: like as a coach, when I was doing it, and

485
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: you get guys from different different things, I always said,

486
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 3: give me an All American wrestler, you know, because I

487
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 3: got a guy that I know, he's mentally tough. I

488
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: know he knows how to cut weight and make weight,

489
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: and he's got skills that I'm never gonna be able

490
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 3: to teach guys.

491
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have time. You could.

492
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: I could teach a striker to wrestle and to wrestle

493
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 3: for revme, but you're never gonna have the time to

494
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: teach them some of the natural stuff that they the

495
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 3: reps that they're gonna get, those reps that they got

496
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 3: growing up.

497
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 2: And they those.

498
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: Guys in there there the hips and that, different different

499
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: things that they do for wrestling, so and and that,

500
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 3: and that's an element that makes it.

501
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 2: I can, you know, I can teach those guys. Most

502
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: of those guys, my wrestlers.

503
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 3: That come in, I teach them in six to six

504
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: months a year to stay at any submissions that most

505
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 3: got the average most fighters are going to run into

506
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: going to put them in and then just because they

507
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 3: because they can they can stay on top. Yeah, and

508
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: they can stay on top. It's there, and they're they're

509
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: tough up there.

510
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: So you you think that the wrestling base is always

511
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: the best space to start.

512
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: It's the easiest base.

513
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: It's like foundation. Actually it's a foundation.

514
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 3: And it's and it's harder to learn when you're older, Yeah,

515
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: because because the reps, it takes it and wrestling is

516
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: hard to take down.

517
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: That's hard on your body.

518
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: And like the I bet like the hip mobility and

519
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: stuff being in those awkward positions like I'm a sprinter,

520
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: so I have no fucking hit move like I can't

521
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: do any of that. But watching like wrestlers and you

522
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: guys getting in those fucking things, like when you do

523
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: that at a younger age, the more muscle you put on,

524
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: the older you get, it probably transis it's used to it,

525
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: You're us to it. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. When's the

526
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: first time you realized you had heavy hands?

527
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: I knew from from finding the street and stuff, like

528
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: I can knock people out. I knocked a lot of

529
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 3: people out growing up, and you know, just knowing that

530
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: I could that one bunch knockout was not you know,

531
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: it took me a minute to find it. So John

532
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: really helped me with that. Ackleman helped me refine my

533
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: s like and to get my timing down a little

534
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 3: more and little I always had that.

535
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: Pop on my elbows and stuff.

536
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: But just find being able to land those punches and

537
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: land those heavy punches.

538
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: It was a lot from John.

539
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember the first time you got punched

540
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: in the face?

541
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 2: No, that white too long.

542
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: I say the same thing I say say I don't

543
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: remember my first hit at all. It sparked something.

544
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love finding guys that don't like getting it. Yeah,

545
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: because you got those guys. No, but no, no one

546
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 3: really likes getting it. Okay that that I say you

547
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 3: don't like it. What I mean by I don't like

548
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: getting it is that they react overreact to maybe getting hit.

549
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: So when you start, it's way too easy for a

550
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: good striker. It's way too easy for you to side

551
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 3: a guy out. Brock Lesser watching him like he's so

552
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: afraid to get hit, and now that being sad, that

553
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: guy's all hard like Shane Carman fight when he got

554
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: when he got dropped him surviving and just keep fighting

555
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: and going and trying to win after getting dropped like that.

556
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: That's that's all hard, that's hard. But he still had

557
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: that fear of getting hit like it's a it's a

558
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: weird thing to get used to it. Don't try. Don't

559
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: convert from wrestling. That's the other thing I can't give you.

560
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: I can't.

561
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to teach you to be mentally tough

562
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: if you come to me to fight and I and

563
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm not able to give you a chance.

564
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: When did you know you wanted to make fighting a career?

565
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: Oh, it was just kind of I kind of just

566
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: kept going.

567
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: I just graduated a great rite call I was kickbatching,

568
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: to keep continuing from just to keep competing while I was.

569
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: While I was doing it, when did a kickboxing come?

570
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 3: So we went to college, finish wrestling in ninety three,

571
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: started kickboxing, just kind of keep competing while I was

572
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: while I was, uh finished up school. I finished school

573
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 3: in ninety five. But then I was an accounting major and

574
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: I was, you know, kind of working in the bar

575
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: fighting train, training every day fighting. You know, Ah, maybe

576
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try this fighting thing for a little while now.

577
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: There what was where could you fight. At that time

578
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: when you're thinking of this, was UFC was coming around.

579
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: UFC came in ninety three three, right, so you're ninety

580
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: five box, but it's still new.

581
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: It's new, and it wasn't I wasn't even thinking about

582
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: actually the runs on. Neil by that time was already

583
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 3: telling me, I should you do UFC? And I'm like,

584
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how to get inn

585
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: Like anybody like they talk about talk about it, but

586
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: no one knew how to get into it.

587
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

588
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know how to get into it back then.

589
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no Internet, there's no social media, there's no

590
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: there's no easy way to find out.

591
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: Where to go to get there's no information.

592
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: I was actually got to the point in ninety seven

593
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: where I was gonna about right to like say, you

594
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: know what, I gotta my grandma's give me a hard time.

595
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: I got to really go get a real job.

596
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: I was talking to John about it, and I was like,

597
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't know if we're gonna

598
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: go overseas and fight and kick kickboxing. You had to

599
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: go overseas and make any money, and and I don't

600
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: know if we're gonna get I don't know if it's

601
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 3: gonna get there, and so I'm like maybe. And then someone, actually,

602
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: this guy Nick one kick plongering in Vegas, asked me

603
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: if I want to do a mixed fight on one

604
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: of his shows, so open hand, palm strike like pancers,

605
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: old school rules, and and I went out and I

606
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: was like, okay, sure, why not, I'll do one more fight,

607
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, like before I go look for a real job.

608
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: And I was laying it as much as I could,

609
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: so when I went out there, and I went out

610
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: there and went up, by the time I got there,

611
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: it was you could only slap with this part of

612
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: her hand where you could kick kick that, and then

613
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: once you hit the ground it was no striking. But

614
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm like when I was finding a jiu jitsu guy,

615
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: I guess and I'm like, okay, no problem. So I

616
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: went out and I wound up kicking the guy in

617
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: the head and knocking him out.

618
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: And some guy asked me, right after something, you want

619
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 2: fight in the UFC. I said, yeah, sure, let's try it.

620
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: So they offered me an alternate spot in the tournament

621
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: for one thousand dollars to go out, and the tournament

622
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: was twenty five grand if you want it. But it

623
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: was a thousand bucks to show up and fight one fight,

624
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 3: and then you're the alternates of the tournament. So if

625
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: we get in, and they said five out of last

626
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: seven got in, so if I got in, there'd be

627
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: either ten thousand or twenty thousand, I think twenty five or.

628
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Whatever, and so I okay, perfect.

629
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: So I went and did that and I just kind

630
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: of fell in love with doing it and I want

631
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: up you know. That was that was in ninety eight

632
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: UFC seventeen and uh, I won my fight, didn't get

633
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: into didn't get into the tournament. I tried to talk

634
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: Henderson out of fight in the second round, but because

635
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: they asked me, what do you think you should do?

636
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: His legs kind of beat up for that first fight,

637
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, the best thing would me

638
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: is to hold off the next time. Maybe maybe you

639
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: shaid like I think they don't know if they figured

640
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: out that I was not giving advice, but I was

641
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: starting to talk about it fighting that about because I

642
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: wanted to fight.

643
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, now, John Heckelman, that's got to be one

644
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: of your guys that like he kind of kind of

645
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: like in that Grandpa role where he told you, Hey,

646
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: he kind of like you can do this ship, you

647
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: should do this ship, or he guided you.

648
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

649
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, always there, He's always there. You know, he's still

650
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: we're still friends. You know he's still we're still training.

651
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: Still come up and train with him. Yeah, he's my

652
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: he was my coach the whole time, and he really helped.

653
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't traveling, wasn't working with me as much

654
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: in the right in the beginning, and tend a man,

655
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: I need your help strike because we was doing the

656
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: mixed ma front stuff. He's like, didn't know if he

657
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: fit in that much. I need you, I need you

658
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: to come back. I'm not knocking guys out exactly, see

659
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: what see what's off because like he was one of

660
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: the guys I like from me. I would not dropping

661
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: guys with my body shot, my little shot. You know,

662
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: I'd be missing and he'd be like, oh change that

663
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: angle though, you just ang a little more up. Okay,

664
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh thanks John, drop one guy's barn and okay.

665
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: That he was your magi. Yeah, he was your mister miagi.

666
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

667
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: When's the first time you meet Dana White, don't know.

668
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Exactly I I met him.

669
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: Uh, I was trained and trained with Tito a little bit,

670
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: and it's when we trained trained the other he was

671
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: managing Tino, and he actually told Dan, hey, man, he

672
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: managed you like him all watch this guy. You know

673
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: guys see Chuck, because I used to beat Tito up

674
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: all the time and train it. Yeah, like I could

675
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: beat him with wrestling. I could beat it at dour

676
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: styles match well for him. Yeah, I beat him in

677
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: a straight wrestling. I beat him in a ju match.

678
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably better at submitting people than I was,

679
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: but I still I don't score him. And it's match

680
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: meet him. Every time when he wrestled, I beat him,

681
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: and every time we struck, I beat him like I

682
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: dropped on body a bunch of times.

683
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: And he's the face of the lead.

684
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: He wasn't.

685
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: He wasn't the face of that, but he was when

686
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: they because they hadn't taken it over yet, because it

687
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: was our manager.

688
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: So he's just your manager manager at that time. So

689
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: you you meet him through Tito ish Uh, through Wayne Harriman,

690
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Wayne Harriman, and so then you start training with Tito,

691
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Dana's like, who the

692
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: fuck is this guy beating the shotut of my guy?

693
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: And then uh so let me go. When did the

694
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: did everything? They bought and they want to buy in

695
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: the OC?

696
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: You know, how was he as a manager great?

697
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: And he was the first guy like going out and

698
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: try to get other things like he was trying to

699
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: get us in like not just like black Belt magazine

700
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: or whatever, starting to get his fitness magazines or get

701
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 3: different He was trying to get better exposure, more stuff.

702
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was getting into different markets.

703
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

704
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: He was really And then when he you know, I think,

705
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like to speak for him, but

706
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: I think they went they they The way I understood

707
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: it back then was they were he was looking at

708
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: him and then were talking about doing a boxing promotion

709
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: and they decided, you know, hey, why don't we just

710
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: do why don't we do this that's not being run right,

711
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: Let's do it the right way. And so they got

712
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: it and then they suck a bunch of money to

713
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: do it and then it took off.

714
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: So did the relationship change once he became like pretty

715
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: much the president.

716
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: Well, when they when they bought the company, he had

717
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: to at least and actually he had by his old

718
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: lawyer actually who did my legal stuff for during it

719
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: as his manager. But he became my manager and then

720
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: he actually quit over me taking the Ultimate Fighter deal

721
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: because you're old manager. Oh man, imagine a quick quick

722
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: quit because over that, because he's not because he thought

723
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I wasn't trusting him with the stop. I mean,

724
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: I get it, but it was like I said, no,

725
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: we got to do this. I want that title. Yeah,

726
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: it's guaranteed me as the title shot, and it's it's

727
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: gonna be on free TV.

728
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: We have to we have to do this.

729
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's Dana White mean to the UFC?

730
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: We wouldn't be here today.

731
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: Like what I tell people all the time, people whatever

732
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: they want to say about him about money and all

733
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: that stuff. When when I came into the sport, when

734
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: I loved it and I moved it, I mean a

735
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: home run was making under fifty grand a year. By

736
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: the end of my career, like I was making up

737
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: over one hundred fifty of my shorts, you know. I mean,

738
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: I mean they've gone away from that now too, but

739
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: but I got I was mad. I was making more

740
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: than that in the sponsorship, you know, And and not

741
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: that and by the way that home run was making,

742
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: it was fighting three times that year to make that

743
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: one fifty. That's like that was you were the top guys.

744
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: We wouldn't have advance as far. We wouldn't be here

745
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for them. I mean, I think it

746
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: would have eventually got here without those fighter or not

747
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: without all the things that they did.

748
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: To promote the sport.

749
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: And I think we wouldn't We would have gotten here

750
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: because it's a great sport, but I think we would

751
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: we would still be fighting to get here.

752
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: We wouldn't be here yet, you know. It's it's it's

753
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: one of those things.

754
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: It's like I I remember we were we went around,

755
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: we were doing all these things, just trying to get

756
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: We're going to Boston Boston Globe asking pegging them to

757
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: put us in the leisure section, you know, not they

758
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: they weren't even covering us in the sports sections, and

759
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: they was just to put us anywhere. I thought it

760
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: was funny when they called me few years later and

761
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: asked me for where I liked to vacation for their

762
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: leisure section. After We've been there trying to trying to

763
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: break in it, just to just get coverage. But we

764
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: and that was one of the things for me that

765
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: actually I think helped me cross over a little more

766
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: with with fans and stuff like that. We were doing

767
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: all this tuff man, you did a good job of

768
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: marketing yourself. No, I wasn't marketing me. I was trying

769
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: to market our sport. I was trying to get dance

770
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: through the stars. I did that because it's a different

771
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: democratic and I wanted to see us. And there were

772
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: not a bunch of Neanderthals, you know, because that's one

773
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: of the things we're fighting in the beginning, was just

774
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys.

775
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: That fell off a part stool and wanted to fight.

776
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: Nothing else to do to do this.

777
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I had a college degree, I

778
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: got gone to have an accountant if I wanted to. I

779
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: didn't want to. I liked I like fighting, I like

780
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: training doing martial arts. I like I like the sport.

781
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: It's freaking Dana White Blue bitch up. Yeah, he blew

782
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: the bitch.

783
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: Up, But that that was he was always trying to

784
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: promote it making And.

785
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: Look where we're at now. We're at ten eleven, twelve

786
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: b now, and I mean it's on ESPN's it's so

787
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: crazy because during this whole time, especially UFC fifty two,

788
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: when this match took place in two thousand and five,

789
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I was in high school. I remember like

790
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: starting to learn about the UFC. My brother loved it.

791
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: And now, like you go to a high school now

792
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about UFC on the clips on Instagram to

793
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: this that, I mean, it's a major sport. Now, it's

794
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: a fucking major I would call I would consider it

795
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: a major. It's in the Big five.

796
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: Now.

797
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: They created themselves to be in over boxing. It's killing

798
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: boxing right now. Really took advantage of COVID two. COVID

799
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: was huge. It's fucking awesome. We got chuck La down here.

800
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break, Let's go

801
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: back into a segment where we go back into time

802
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: when the fight took place. This fight took place April sixteen,

803
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, when we go over pop culture

804
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: and we just talk about what was going on. Number

805
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: one movie, What is that?

806
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: Amityville horror starring Ryan Reynolds and Philip Baker Hall. Michael

807
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: Bay produced it. It was a remake of a nineteen

808
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 5: seventy nine film adaptation from a book by Jay Arson.

809
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 5: Budget nineteen million, gross, one hundred and seven point five.

810
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: Did you see that? I actually never saw it.

811
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: I never saw that one either, Chuck, it's scary. I

812
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: was never a horror movie guy, me either.

813
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: I just so one of those things that I don't

814
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: They don't scare me usually, and usually it's like I

815
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: remember one watching one Brad Penny told me to watch

816
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: that's scared. I'm the things like, oh hey man, it's

817
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 3: kind of creepy movie, and this guy's kidnapping.

818
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: I was, and then this guy.

819
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: Starts wrestling with the like the boogie man guy, like

820
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: it's actually wrestling with him.

821
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Like, okay, that's over it. If I can survive that,

822
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: I killed that guy.

823
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 5: Chuck Liddell doesn't watch scary movies. Scary movies, watch Chuck Liddell.

824
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. I watched The Exorcists when I was thirt

825
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. I slept with my parents for two

826
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: weeks after that. I was fucking terrified. The Extorus just

827
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: fucked me up. And Chucky. When I was young, I

828
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: had an older brother used to do a bunch of fucking.

829
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: He was seven years older, so he used to fuck

830
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: with me, So I don't like scary movies either. Chuck,

831
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Candy Shop. We all knew that with

832
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: fifty cent that was especially that was high school.

833
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: Baby, this is senior year for you.

834
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: This is like senior year. I think this is when

835
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise jumped on Oprah's couch.

836
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

837
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Is this when he went scientology went kind of?

838
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: I think he's always been scientilog.

839
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: He went a little. He's still cool. I still watch

840
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: all his movies. I'll support the shit out of YouTube

841
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and five.

842
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: The first video ever was posted on YouTube. It was

843
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: titled Me at the Zoo, was uploaded by one of

844
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 5: YouTube's co founders. It was a nineteen second video of

845
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: him standing next to elephants at a zoo.

846
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: Interesting and now we watch fucking like chickens take dumps,

847
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: and over fucking a billion people will watch that because

848
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: of that.

849
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is crazy.

850
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: It's fucking nuts. NBA champion San Antonio Spurs MVP Steve Nash,

851
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: he was fucking dirty. NFL champions the Pats. This is

852
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: when they took down Eagles.

853
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. This is the last of the four last.

854
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Of the first three Peyton Manning was the MVP. What

855
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: was Chuck Ldell like in two thousand and five.

856
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: Two thousand five, I was at the top of my

857
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: game fighting. I was just loving it. It was awesome.

858
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: We were, you know, having fun.

859
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: It was really different though, Like I gotta say, like,

860
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: so we did Ultimate Fighter, right, so we filmed it,

861
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: oh four, then over four and then you know, I

862
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: was walking around mall like right after it started airing,

863
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: and like like the people coming up and be like, hey,

864
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: good fight, Like hey, Like I used to be able

865
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: to walk into a room and go, okay.

866
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: That guy with the tap out shirt and that.

867
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: Guy over there and that guy over there probably know

868
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: who I am. And then all of a sudden, I

869
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: got like, you know, Grandma's coming up. Hey, great fight there,

870
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: and I'm like, how do you know what? What?

871
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

872
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: Like it was, it was all of a sudden.

873
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 3: It went from that being you know, real pretty easy

874
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: to tell who might know you, to everybody like it

875
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: was it was crazy.

876
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ed Hardy guy, he knows them. But now

877
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: we got Grandma, Grandma is now knowing dude. We got

878
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: to talk about I remember watching you and fucking Entourage.

879
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: Who'd you punk? Johnny Drama. That was hey because that

880
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: was like the biggest show in the world.

881
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I love that show.

882
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: We all loved it for me, like I was one

883
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 3: of those shows that was up probably the last show

884
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: that I actually would when when I was traveling, would

885
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: actually go try to find someboldace in HB on Sunday night,

886
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: trying to watch.

887
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: It without a doubt because we can't binge it back then,

888
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: you can't just bend ship.

889
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: And I asked everybody I knew to get like they

890
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: get me on the show, you know, like I just

891
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: want to walk on side events, and they when they

892
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: it was cooler that when they found out they're gonna

893
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: put me on, They're like, oh, we might as well

894
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: put them on. And I was making him the punk.

895
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: I think they had a they had something else, but

896
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: they came up with a different punks.

897
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: That you got got episode.

898
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. You were everywhere

899
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: in the in this time.

900
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it's like one of those things that

901
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: we're just trying to promote the sport.

902
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

903
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: Back then, like a lot of people, I really had

904
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: no idea who I was. Down they knew who I was,

905
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: so now they hear I'm fighting on it that. Oh

906
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: maybe I watched that, Maybe I watched paper view. You know,

907
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: it's that was the idea.

908
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: What was your coolest experience that you think this time?

909
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: What was your the one that you liked that was

910
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: fucking I made Oh this is pretty cool.

911
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: It was right after a week after the fight, like

912
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: when it was fight, like h r U y e,

913
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: do you want to go on a vacation with us?

914
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: And then we full in private jet to.

915
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: To besa help. I went on a couple of tow

916
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: hundred foot yachts.

917
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

918
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd like eighty eight foot tenders and they're crazy.

919
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: Like it was like you know, and like first time

920
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: a kid that I mean I was, it was a

921
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: kid anymore. I was thirty five, but I mean I've

922
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: never done anything like that, no, you know. And then

923
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: that for a week, and then I went to I

924
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 3: think I did it on the longest like I think

925
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: we went. We went to England and did a PR

926
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: tour for a couple of days there.

927
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: Then I flew bad. I did like they did, like

928
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: I think they did.

929
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: Like I was in like seventeen seventeen cities and five

930
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: countries and like like five days, like in twenty five

931
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: days or something.

932
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

933
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: It was you were the perfect person at this time

934
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: to promote the game because you I mean, you look

935
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: like a fucking you look like a fighter.

936
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also for in the.

937
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Haircut, you had the look. You had the fucking Cauliflowerer,

938
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: you had the fucking the thing.

939
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: I also I also had a college degree. We're still

940
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: trying when still trying to convince me we're not just

941
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: a bunch of you know that, you know, they have nothing.

942
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Else to do.

943
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: I just want to fight, beat people up, you know.

944
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: So that was a little easier, like you know, that

945
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: was one of the things I did. I went with

946
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: I got a before if I Tito the first time.

947
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: This is before this. They uh, they told me, you

948
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: got to do better on your interviews.

949
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: Now. The problem back then was everybody.

950
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: Coming to go to an interview. They don't even read

951
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: their one sheet. They don't know what to talk about.

952
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: They didn't know what MMA was. Yeah, they'd ask you,

953
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: is this pro wrestling or you know I like to wrestling,

954
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 3: or like they answer they asked dumb question, the dumbest questions. Well,

955
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: and I'm like and they like it's hard to do

956
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: an interview when you don't get no one knows what

957
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: you're talking about, you don't know what to say. And

958
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: then so I got my actually my manager back then

959
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: is his sister was a drama teacher, and she actually

960
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: said she'd coached me on doing interviews. Yeah, for a

961
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: couple of days, and she asked me to write down

962
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: the ten most common questions. At first of all, she

963
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: goes across all these all shitty questions, and you got

964
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: about two real questions there. So what you're gonna do

965
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: from now on is when you go out there to

966
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: ask you whatever shitty question they asked, answer the question

967
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 3: yes or no, and then talk for about a minute

968
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: and a half to two minutes about whatever you want to

969
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: talk about, and and that and that, and then if

970
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: they if they, if they're worth anything as an interviewer,

971
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: they'll be able to follow up from there because we're

972
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: doing radio. So it asked me, it's pretty quick hits.

973
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: So interviewing people loved me. What'd you do? Like, Well,

974
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: you told me to get better, and no one told

975
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: me how to get better. I actually got someone went

976
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: and got coached like on how to actually do an interview,

977
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: How do I talk to people like what and especially

978
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: like I said, back then, we were trying to educate

979
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: the people asking us the questions what our sport is.

980
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: They didn't they.

981
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: Didn't know what it was like like you get a

982
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: radio show host and they're like, who's this guy? You

983
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: know he's what's fighting? I don't know what's MMA. I

984
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: don't know that it's UFC.

985
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: They don't know.

986
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was a There's still a

987
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: lot of that back then. So we were doing all

988
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: and it was it was fun.

989
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: We're always trying to improve here in the nuthouse on

990
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: games with names. Give us an example of a shitty question.

991
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: So we don't ask anyone.

992
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even know, you know. They it's

993
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: just ask answer.

994
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: They'll ask an answer like did you think it was

995
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: good that this guy did that?

996
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: And did this?

997
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: And and you know, and then then you should have

998
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 3: done this, but they should have done that, Like.

999
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: So do I tell you you're wrong?

1000
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: Or and we argue about this word, do you want

1001
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: me to just go because that's.

1002
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: About my two choices?

1003
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: Don't answer the question and the question.

1004
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: And other interviews or over talk, yeah, or they just

1005
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't have you know, they just asked they don't know

1006
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: the sport at all.

1007
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: It was so new, so should you should have just

1008
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: did a little highlight clip of blood Sport and had

1009
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: band damn over there fighting the dude doing this and

1010
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: fucking you know, the big belly flop. Guy. I love that.

1011
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite movies.

1012
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 3: Oh.

1013
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: I love that.

1014
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: My brother pitched UFC to me when I was in

1015
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: high school because we were all, like everyone watched boxing

1016
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: at that time. He's like, bro, it's fucking blood Sport.

1017
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about it? And he's like,

1018
00:42:53,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: go watch. I watched. It's like it's blood Sport. What So,

1019
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: what's on your pregame? Did you have a like iPad

1020
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: or like iPod or anything?

1021
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: What?

1022
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: What was in the Yeah, you know, you know the

1023
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: old iPod Actually.

1024
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: One of the commissioner stories. I love being in your

1025
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: room because I never know what's going to come on next?

1026
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: What was I go?

1027
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: I go from like Slayer to uh the Country to

1028
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: UH to wrap? Yeah, I mean I would we just

1029
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: go from just a lot of random stuff.

1030
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same way hitting all.

1031
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff come on.

1032
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 3: Different things fired me up different ways, you know, And

1033
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: so yeah, I and I was pretty d I was

1034
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: just having fun back there anyways.

1035
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five, Chuckle was probably listening to like

1036
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: seeing all that by Young Gez and Ship. You know

1037
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about trap Star. Got a little country in

1038
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: there as well. Fucking awesome. Let's uh, let's jump into

1039
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: the fight. Uh So.

1040
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 5: Randy Cotour also is the natural from Everett, Washington and

1041
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: a Coatur had a background in Greco Roman wrestling and

1042
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 5: he was an All American wrestler at Oklahoma State Go Cowboys.

1043
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 5: He served in the one hundred and first Airborne before

1044
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 5: making his a UFC debut in nineteen ninety seven and

1045
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 5: in two thousand and five. At this point in his

1046
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 5: career he had a record of thirteen and six.

1047
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: And he just came down from heavyweight being a heavyweight champ.

1048
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: Can you break down his fight and fighting style? Yeah,

1049
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: he just a straight wrestler.

1050
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: No, he's really good at dirty boxing, getting inside and

1051
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: beat guys up in there, and then good wrestling, gets control,

1052
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: good cage control, good just all around a good fighter. Tough,

1053
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 3: take a shot.

1054
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: What was his greatest strength?

1055
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: He's wrestling and Understaid's wrestling and being able to being

1056
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: able to control control people.

1057
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: What's Randy Couture mean to the m m A. He

1058
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: was a big name, big.

1059
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: Name, and he was great. He's a great opponent. I mean,

1060
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 3: he's a really tough guy. Guy's been around, been around,

1061
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: had bit. Like I said, he got up, got one

1062
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: of very title that came down.

1063
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: We got that, like every ray title. Yeah, so it's

1064
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: tough man.

1065
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Any bad blood none? None?

1066
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: No, we're good.

1067
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: Respect Yeah, respect What I mean, I don't think everybody

1068
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: I fought. I'm friends with everybody I fought pretty much

1069
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: except for Tito. But I mean I don't I don't

1070
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: even I don't hate Tito's just we don't, you know,

1071
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: just we don't like, we don't get along.

1072
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. We have a fighting public. I used

1073
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: to think it was.

1074
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: Funny, like back even back in the day when we're

1075
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: still fighting, like, yeah, coming out, we're going to club

1076
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: the man, tito'ish, everything gonna be okay, Like you.

1077
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 2: Got a couple of dollars, No, then, yeah, things gonna

1078
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: be fine. You're not gonna fight. I mean, you know,

1079
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: it's like we're good.

1080
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: So you fought Randy couldtur in the inner inner term match, right,

1081
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: It was like the inner interim belt and you lost.

1082
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: He was he came out. It was kind of it

1083
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: was kind of like you were thinking about Tito because

1084
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: there's all that Tito ship going on. Did you take

1085
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: anything from that first fight like into this second fight

1086
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: when you're going to the title fight?

1087
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 7: Like?

1088
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: Is that?

1089
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: Is that like for us? When I play a team

1090
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: in the regular season and I got that film of

1091
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: playing them, when I played them in the postseason, I

1092
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: felt like I had an upradge on them because I

1093
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: already felt their technique.

1094
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: Right after we watched. I didn't watch film that was

1095
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: the first fight. I didn't watch films four until we

1096
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: were scheduled because I was so upset that I let

1097
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: Tito off the hook to fighting me. Not that I

1098
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: lost to Randy. I respect for Andy. I just didn't

1099
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: like that let Titto off the hook. It just crushed me.

1100
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: So I was training and they need to get out.

1101
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: You got me right back in the ring, let me

1102
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: go fight.

1103
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: And Briane got me back to fighting right away because

1104
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: it's what I needed to get back and back.

1105
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: Focus on something. And then we started going.

1106
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: And and I when I when I signed a fight,

1107
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: we're ready to go. I watched watch film on it,

1108
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: and I watched the film We're Gonna Knock Him Out. Yeah,

1109
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: I got them, And that's I was always good at

1110
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: going back and breaking down what things.

1111
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: I saw a few little things, and that's all I needed.

1112
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: What did you see?

1113
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: What?

1114
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Like? What are you looking for when you're watching a film?

1115
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: Well, what I'm watching a film against someone else. I'm

1116
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: trying to see what things they do, like the whether

1117
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: movement habits are what? Hey, wow?

1118
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: What?

1119
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: And then usually when I find them, I try to

1120
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 3: test and see if they they have moved the same

1121
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: way against me, because a lot of fighters don't move

1122
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: the same.

1123
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: Way depending on what they're who you're fighting, they.

1124
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: Don't move that. They have a lot of similarities. And

1125
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: now they move, but they're not quietly. They might be

1126
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: a little more worried about me hitting them, so they're

1127
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: gonna move a little different. And they've trained it a

1128
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: little different from me and they did for somebody else.

1129
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: But when you see how they they're ready for you,

1130
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: and then then when they win, they usually don't change it.

1131
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: A whole lot.

1132
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: It's so similar to football, you know, like cause like

1133
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: that first drive when you're an offense you're throwing shit

1134
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: out there, and you're you're putting stuff that you saw

1135
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: on film out there to see how they defend. Right,

1136
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: there's someone that So then I can see, all right,

1137
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: we got our counter. We have this play for the

1138
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: INTWO you have a third down look because they did this.

1139
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: So a lot of that. I mean that chess in

1140
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: fucking fighting.

1141
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 3: And that's the fun part about it is playing chess

1142
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: out there and there's there's so many ways to wear

1143
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: and lose an mma. Yeah that I can you know

1144
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's what a lot of styles made

1145
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: fights a lot of times. You know, guys, this guy's

1146
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: an easy fight. Easier to fight for this guy, but

1147
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 3: not not so easy for that guys.

1148
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: It's different matchups.

1149
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: Matchups, baby, Okay, So Chuck Ladell, now you obviously know this.

1150
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 5: This is for our audience back at home. Chuck Leadell,

1151
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 5: also known as the Iceman, Fighting out of Saint Louis

1152
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 5: Obispo in California, Chuck was a D one wrestler at

1153
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: cal paly Go Mustangs. It was an amateur kickboxing champion

1154
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: known for his sprawl and brawl fighting style. He excelled

1155
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: with great takedown defense, and heavy hands. Chuck made his

1156
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: UFC debut in nineteen ninety eight in Mobile, Alabama. In

1157
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 5: two thousand and five, when we're talking about at this

1158
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: point of your career, you had a record of fourteen

1159
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 5: to three.

1160
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: On the height. When'd you realize you had that over

1161
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: that overham punch? When'd you know it was gonna connect

1162
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: in this one in this fight?

1163
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: And that was that was the thing. He will pruss

1164
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: you and come home.

1165
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: And I was I worked on pivoting off, encountering with

1166
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: that right hand. Pavoting you pivot off and get him,

1167
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 3: but he's coming still coming forward and catch him saying

1168
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: that way dropped him so great.

1169
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: And then you went in. See the crazy thing is

1170
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: you guys, when they drop and hit the ground, then

1171
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: you guys go in the straight fucking hammer.

1172
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: You gotta finish hm because some guys, you know, you

1173
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: don't know, you don't know, some guys can survive down there,

1174
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: and if you don't, if you don't, and you have

1175
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: to make the rough stop because otherwise, if you jump

1176
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: right on top of him, the ref's gotta stop it.

1177
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: If you don't, the ref can wait and see how

1178
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: he reacts. Like you go. You can hold on.

1179
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: But if you guys up there, if you're up there,

1180
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: hit him, he's got to pull you off. If you're not,

1181
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: you wait a minute to call the fight. Well you

1182
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: go wait. Let me see his Randy okay? Is Randy okay?

1183
00:49:54,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: So now bell rings fight starts. What what's going through

1184
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: your head in this fight?

1185
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: I think we'll just keep moving on to speak, keep circle,

1186
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: keep circle, just keep keep your feet moving. So I

1187
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: just I just I just come in and see how

1188
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 3: I was gonna engage, see how I was.

1189
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: Gonna come at me. I just I'm not throwing a

1190
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: few punches at.

1191
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: Him, you know, just get it, get in to come

1192
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: in because I know he's want he wants to close this,

1193
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: and he's like he didn't want to stand outside on me.

1194
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 3: I didn't want to stand out, you know, sit down

1195
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: there and let me pick you apart.

1196
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, he's gonna have to come in.

1197
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: Now. When when did this iceman persona come come from?

1198
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: Well that was just John.

1199
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: John called like nicknames everybody, I think, but uh, he

1200
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: started calling me the iceman because I said he didn't

1201
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: get nervous before fights.

1202
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: He had like like two hundred amateur fights.

1203
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 3: And like sixty SEI pro fights and he got nervous

1204
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: for every single one of them.

1205
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 2: And I think it was We're in.

1206
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: Bakersfield fighting at the strong Board Arena, and there he was.

1207
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: I was gonna fight at like nine o'clock, nine thirty

1208
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 3: ten go on the night, so he's gonna come take

1209
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: my hands at eight, and but we'd been there since

1210
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: we got that as dads get there at like five thirty.

1211
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: So I'm in the back sitting around doing nothing, and

1212
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: and he goes looking for me, and he can't find me,

1213
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: and things I maybe I took off, like I said,

1214
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: app guys freak out and take off whatever.

1215
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: I thought.

1216
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: He's looking around, looking around, and finally he finds me.

1217
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: And I'm sleeping on a on a type at and

1218
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: we had on a type at, just sleeping in the corner. Yeah,

1219
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: And I was just killing time. We had We had

1220
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: no guy we did. The other guy we had another

1221
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: guy had already fought, and I was just kind of relaxing,

1222
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: and so he just couldn't play. I have trouble sleeping

1223
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: the night before I fight, but just sleeping like a

1224
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: couple hours before you fight and start.

1225
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: You're just an iceman. So you just started calling me

1226
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 2: the iceman.

1227
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, you know, I used to add before a game. Yeah,

1228
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: you get because sometimes you get too jacked up before

1229
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: a shit like you wear out mentally like it's gonna

1230
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: be a long battle in the battle, like let's let's

1231
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: let me go in calm, let me go in calm

1232
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: or fresh like that.

1233
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 3: That's the thing I like worried about it at the

1234
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: I was just to tell people, how you so calm

1235
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: before you fight? Is it?

1236
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: Because I know it's not gonna do me any good.

1237
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: I've already we've already done the game plan, We've already

1238
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: got We've already trained, training, training, and a camp was

1239
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: last week.

1240
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: It's over.

1241
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: We can't do anymore worry about. It's not gonna do

1242
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: any good. So just go out and perform. If you

1243
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: just go out and perform, you're gonna do a lot

1244
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: better than you will if you go out worry, if

1245
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: you and if you spend all night worried about it,

1246
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: I matter what funny funnies are, Like my buddy came.

1247
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: My buddy is a friends of both, was me and

1248
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: Tino before he fought the first time he went down

1249
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: to see Tito and his Tito was in his room

1250
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: and they were all in the in the front room

1251
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: talking talking strategy and what are you gonna do tomorrow

1252
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. He said, he came up and

1253
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: knocks on Hydraic and he comes in and he walks in,

1254
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: and I got two girls in my bed, and and

1255
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: he's like and he looked, and he's like, I knew

1256
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 3: who was gonna win right there. So you were just

1257
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: completely relaxed. I didn't care. I'm like, it's just it

1258
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: just was just its just that this is being calm,

1259
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: you know. I was like, I don't it doesn't it does.

1260
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: It does me no good to worry about it, So

1261
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: why do it?

1262
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't know good to worry, So why worry?

1263
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was always a good test taker.

1264
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: I always did well. If I want to outshot what

1265
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 3: I should probably should have done on the tests. I

1266
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: I really you said, I'm studying, study, study until you

1267
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: close the book as soon as they start to test.

1268
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: I'm I'm relaxed. I just go and do I do

1269
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: my answers. Hey, do what I can do. That's all

1270
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: I can do. There's no more worrying about It's not

1271
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 3: can do anything. Yeah, don't worry about what you can't

1272
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm people say it all the time.

1273
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it what you can't the things you

1274
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: can't change, effect can't control.

1275
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: I need a little chuck in my head sometimes I

1276
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: need a little chuck in my head. Can we get it?

1277
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: Put a put a ball on this on the on

1278
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: the fight and walk us through the fight. Kai guy,

1279
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: so first before we.

1280
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 5: We got you to lead up. That's very important for

1281
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: this match. The lead up to UFC fifty two is

1282
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: a rematch from two years in the making. A Katur

1283
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 5: won the Internment Championship we mentioned before in their first

1284
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: meeting in a third round TKO. Since that fight, Randy

1285
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 5: was two and one, notably beating t RTIs to unify

1286
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 5: the belt and then beating Vidor belfort I probably butchered

1287
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 5: that to reclaim the belt, and then Chuck went three

1288
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: and one, also beat t do Ortiz and also competed

1289
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 5: in the Pride Grand pre tournament representing the UFC, and

1290
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 5: this led up to UFC fifty two. But also a

1291
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 5: part of USC fifty two is the Ultimate Fighter Season one,

1292
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 5: so ULTI Fire Season one is where Chuck and Randy

1293
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 5: were coaches.

1294
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: It was a won both way classes.

1295
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: That's right.

1296
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: With the UFC struggling to stay afloat, Dana White pitched

1297
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 5: the idea of an MMA reality show to the newly

1298
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 5: created Spy TV. Sixteen fighters across two way classes middleweight

1299
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 5: and heavyweight, two teams led by coach Laddell and coach

1300
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 5: katre On. The winner receive a six figure fight contract

1301
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: with the UFC. Then A, White credits the finale fight

1302
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 5: between Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner with saving the UFC.

1303
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh it was great that, you know it was it

1304
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: was our first free fight on TV, right, and they

1305
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: have that amazing fight that had both like I had

1306
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: all elements of MMA in it. I mean, you couldn't

1307
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 3: ask for a better fight. They had Gotti Ward type fight.

1308
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 3: Maybe not the two best guys out there right now

1309
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: at the time, but but such a great show, put

1310
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: such a great matchup, put a great show. You know,

1311
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 3: they had both had successful careers after that. You know,

1312
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: forced man, it's for tough yeah, good good fighters.

1313
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: Is great.

1314
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: Now, when you did this show, did you notice that

1315
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: every little kid everywhere was starting to do your mohawk?

1316
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: And what inspired this mohawk? No, I didn't notice that

1317
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: because I remember kids trying to be Chuck Liddell with

1318
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: the mohawk. I think I had one. I had one

1319
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: too in this year.

1320
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: So I agree up my whole life with shape the

1321
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: shaved that like short growing up.

1322
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: Tell about my eighth grade.

1323
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: And in eighth grade I had a teacher, A subject

1324
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: teacher asked me after class, like, hey, so, what what's

1325
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: it like being a skinhead. I'm like, so as people

1326
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: a skin of culture, like I'm I'm I'm what, I'm

1327
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: not a skinny. I don't know what's talking about, you know,

1328
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't even know the skin Well, yeah,

1329
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: and so I told my grandma that and I said,

1330
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: I was laughing, tell us story of my grandma and

1331
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: my grandpa, And Okay, we're gonna let you grow your

1332
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: hair out a little bit. My grammar said, people don't

1333
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: mistake you for a skinhead, because that was a big

1334
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: thing issue with that back then. And uh, I'm like, okay,

1335
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: So I got to grow my hair out. So now

1336
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: we're in college and I think it was ninety two

1337
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: and my my buddies are going this Layer concert we're

1338
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: all going to that was gonna shave their heads. I said, Nah,

1339
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. I did that for way too long.

1340
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen. You gotta do something. Come on, well,

1341
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm wut a mohawk. I'll do a maw So I

1342
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: did a mohawk, and I actually went up to the

1343
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: we worked there. I was working security and fair. After that, really,

1344
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: I noticed that everybody there wrecking azed, like all the

1345
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: people that worked there would recognize me. When I was off,

1346
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: I get free food and stuff, and so people recognized it,

1347
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: and so I just kind of kept it and I

1348
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: started kickboxing and I was fighting, and I actually went

1349
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: to one of my fights and stromore Arena back early

1350
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: fights with it with the hair going out, because I

1351
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: got an altercation at at a club I were at

1352
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: I was working.

1353
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: And then we had they wanted me to grow my

1354
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: hair out for the court case. Yeah I won. I

1355
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: was an idiot, Yeah, I was just you know it.

1356
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: It was stupid. But anyway, so I won that and

1357
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: then we went out. But I went I the week

1358
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: before that, I had to fight. I fought and they

1359
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: so I had my hair going out. I didn't fight.

1360
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: The promoter got mad at me, So don't man, don't

1361
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: ever do that to me again. Man, you gotta you

1362
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: gotta way your mohawk, because I have people complaining that

1363
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: you never showed up. Now, I knocked the guy out

1364
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: in the second round that night, but they didn't know

1365
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: it was me. Nobody knows there's no hawk. I was

1366
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 3: on the I was on the poster, but they didn't

1367
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: know I was there. They they thought I didn't show up.

1368
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: So was the mohawk. I was on poster, it wasn't

1369
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: on postering. And I was like, don't do that to

1370
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: me again. People recognized me for that. So so later

1371
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: on when I fought in the UFC like that, and

1372
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: actually Peretti, the promoter back then, told me, I was, oh,

1373
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: that's played out.

1374
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: Get rid of that mohawk. I was, I'm good, but

1375
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: uh so.

1376
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: But it was actually a good thing for people to

1377
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: recognize me and knows me, especially back in the day

1378
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: when I first started getting fit a little bit a

1379
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: little bit of fame. People you'd see him going after

1380
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: you see it was a bargle like this, try to

1381
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: look around my head and see if I have that tattoo?

1382
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: Got him?

1383
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: Yea gonna he's got the tattoo.

1384
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the tattoo.

1385
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: It's from my room lit karate style and so what

1386
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: we were in our blackbots when we get our black belt,

1387
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: we were on our gee when we get.

1388
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: Our backpots to Conji.

1389
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: What does it mean?

1390
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 3: Uh, roughly base peace and prosperity a place, a piece

1391
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: of prosperity, or house or temple a piece of prosperity.

1392
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1393
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: Kind of the idea was you studyed martial arts to

1394
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: be for internal peace and prosperity.

1395
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Before we go into grating this game, I want to ask,

1396
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: what was it like doing The Ultimate Fighter with having

1397
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: like cameras everywhere like that? That was like reality TV

1398
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: time and you guys are getting thrown into that. What

1399
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: was that whole experience? Like?

1400
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: It was interesting, the whole thing.

1401
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: The nice part of that was, like I got we

1402
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: were just there when we were on set.

1403
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: They didn't have the coaches, weren't living in the house. Yeah,

1404
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean, but it was a learning curve for everybody.

1405
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: You know, they came in.

1406
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: Not quite understanding stuff, you know, some things, and we

1407
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: got we got a few arguments and a couple arguments

1408
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: with them over stuff. And I think I I think

1409
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: they joked about about of the second season I did.

1410
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: They said I still held the record for most rules

1411
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: broken in the season.

1412
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, but a lot of it came down,

1413
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: and we we had a lot of arguments over.

1414
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: Of them there them trying to be reality people and

1415
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: do what they do and and me being a coach

1416
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: and doing what I do because my thing was like

1417
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: we got so A good example was so one of

1418
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: the one of the one of the they were Kenny

1419
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: Flooran was gonna fight one of the Night's one of

1420
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: the shows that we were filming. This is not gonna

1421
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: be aired for a couple of months right until later,

1422
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: and and they you know, And so the guy that

1423
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 3: tape wraps his hands that they hired shot up late.

1424
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: He wasn't there yet, and they wouldn't let me tape

1425
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: his hands because they said, I don't know why I could.

1426
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: I can tape normally, but they wanted their guy to

1427
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: do it. Okay whatever, So he get his hands taped.

1428
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: This guy comes in this runner because he goes, hey,

1429
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: he needs me out there in five minutes. I'm all, hey, man,

1430
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: we need about twenty minutes and warm up. We're gonna

1431
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: we need about twenty minutes and warm up. He needs

1432
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: to be out there right fucking now. Who the fuck

1433
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: you think you're talking to? And guy ran out of room.

1434
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 3: She runs out and got got the person in charge

1435
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: and she comes in and she came in and she

1436
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: starts yelling at me. I'm ahead, look here, you whired

1437
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: me to be these kids coach. I'm gonna treat him

1438
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: like the one of mine. This guy's not fighting, tell

1439
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: he's good guy until I say he's damn ready, or.

1440
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: You can ask them who.

1441
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: They want to fire me or you your choice, good luck. No,

1442
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: she and they gave me the.

1443
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: Time, right, but this guy's about to go out fight

1444
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: for his fucking life, like not even that, but like

1445
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: for his career.

1446
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: It's like, no, he's not ready, and this isn't this

1447
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: is the time, we know, and it's your not to mention.

1448
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: It's your we're late being warmed up, not ours. So

1449
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't even want to hear it.

1450
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: That being said, we talked after and you know, like

1451
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: it's like, look, I understand you guys are trying to

1452
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: make a show, but they I mean, they they wanted.

1453
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: It was sixty straight days that time at that time,

1454
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: with fights in the middle of it.

1455
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: Jesus and they wanted us to do.

1456
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: They want us to do too hard workouts a day

1457
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: every day for sixty days. I want guys, nobody can

1458
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: do that because they gonna happen.

1459
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: We have to. I will get them doing something. We

1460
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: can do something.

1461
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: But like you then, and.

1462
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 3: You got these and you know, we had these challenges too.

1463
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: They were all physical and the other thing. I'm going, dude,

1464
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: guys like I'm gonna, I will. We can do something,

1465
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: but you gotta be we got a kind of they're humans.

1466
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: And then you asked me to be their coach.

1467
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: I'll be.

1468
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: I get it. We hired you guys to make a

1469
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 3: reality show. I will do what you ask within reason.

1470
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: Everyone's just trying to do their job. They don't understand

1471
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: being an athlete. The athlete doesn't understand, and we're trying

1472
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: to put a show on and that's just all this bullshit.

1473
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: But it turned out to be a fucking great thing.

1474
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because because of this show. Its sling shotted.

1475
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: This is one of the I'm telling you, this show

1476
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: is pretty much the template for like six other sports

1477
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: and how they've gotten famous. Now drive or survive they're

1478
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: trying to do with tennis. They're trying to do with golf.

1479
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: It's all because of The Ultimate Fighter.

1480
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: How was the show pitched to you? Like, how did

1481
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 5: they how did they all come together?

1482
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: David's we do the show, it's gonna end up in

1483
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: a fight. Uh, and you get a title shot the

1484
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 3: week after perfect and You're like, let's titles that, right,

1485
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: let's go, And that was argument.

1486
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 4: We went back and forth they at the time we

1487
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: had I think I had two fights left, so I

1488
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: would have fought once and then we could we usually

1489
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 4: would with the contract at that and he won that

1490
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 4: to fight at the end of the deal because I

1491
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 4: was gonna fight again before that show, and I won

1492
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 4: that fight, then then find the show and he wanted

1493
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: two extra fights at the end of the deal at

1494
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 4: whatever that was.

1495
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: But my manager actually quit over it. Jesus were argued,

1496
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: I mean I still paid him on the two fights.

1497
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: We had laps.

1498
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: Actually it worked out. He got to say that he

1499
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: represented you and you got to do what you just did.

1500
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: So it was it was fun. So everyone friends.

1501
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: So to wrap up The Ultimate Fighter, Your Fighter, Force

1502
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 5: Griffin won in a war of a fight against Stephan Bonner.

1503
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 5: Force Griffin won the UFC contract, but Dana White was

1504
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: so impressed with the other fighter that he also awarded

1505
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 5: the other fighter a UFC contracted. Well, I wasn't aware

1506
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 5: the UFC gave up participation trophies, but here we go.

1507
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: Stop.

1508
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 5: And then a week after, as you mentioned, the season

1509
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 5: one finale, at the Ultimate Fighter, it was time for

1510
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 5: the coaches to fight.

1511
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: And you guys go in, you fight, You knock his

1512
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: house out in the first round.

1513
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

1514
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: And it was awesome.

1515
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: It was that was And that's that's as excited as

1516
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: I ever get, because you know, you you put all

1517
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: that time in and then you do it, do it

1518
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: exactly how you want to do it.

1519
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: That's not even knock out. You know, that's how what

1520
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: if I don't?

1521
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: And you know I always say the other thing if

1522
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: you if you want to pick, like the second favorite

1523
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: fighter is the second one, because it proved that this

1524
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: one wasn't a floke.

1525
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: Once once his luck twice his skill three is a pro.

1526
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: So my dad used to say he was once his

1527
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: luck kid twice his skill three's are pro. Walk us

1528
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: through beat for beat what it's like winning the UFC Championship.

1529
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: It's hard to say beat for beat. I mean, I

1530
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: just out there. You go out and do your thing.

1531
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: And then I mean I was fired up. If you

1532
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 3: could tell, if you couldn't tell after watching me after

1533
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 3: the fight, it was not pretty fired up?

1534
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Was your grandpa round still?

1535
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: No, I was.

1536
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: That was That was a hard one for me. I

1537
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: always say the one thing, you know, one thing you

1538
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 3: never got to see was me fight in the UC.

1539
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 1: You never got to see a champ.

1540
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: Never never gonna see me fight. He had watch a fight.

1541
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: Kickbox from once knocked the kid out in the second round.

1542
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 1: But you know, but he watched. He got to watch. Man.

1543
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: That's that's it.

1544
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 3: But it's and you know, without him, I wouldn't have

1545
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: been out there. And my mom, I mean my mom

1546
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: the same way.

1547
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: She's just both of them tough as nails.

1548
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 3: Both of them raised me tough, and they raised you like,

1549
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: oh the hard work, that work, ethic, you know, you know,

1550
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it. I was just saying

1551
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: I was never the best athlete in the room. But no,

1552
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't let anybody out work me. I put in

1553
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: my time, put in my work. I did everything I

1554
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: need to do. I got prepared, you know, and and

1555
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 3: just let let him fly, let him fly. We'll be

1556
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: right back after this quick break. Let's score the game.

1557
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 3: This is a segment where we score the game.

1558
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: We name the game. These are some names that we

1559
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: came up with. If you have a name, you could

1560
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: throw it out there. We were gonna go Ladell versus

1561
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: Couture two Chapter two, The Naturals Disaster, the Iceman Cometh,

1562
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: Iceman's revenge. Revenge is best served cold, the fight that

1563
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: saved the UFC. Or is there something else?

1564
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: You know? I think the natural Disaster.

1565
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: Let's go the Naturals Disaster.

1566
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but now that all of those are pretty good.

1567
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: Actually, which one do you? Which one do you want

1568
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: to pick?

1569
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if I was gonna do want, i'd be

1570
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: the Iceman Cometh.

1571
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: I guess Let's do it. Love it, the Iceman Cometh,

1572
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: the Iceman Cometh. Score the game. Is this the greatest

1573
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: game of all time? Let's score it. Chuck steaks zero

1574
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: to ten decimals? Okay, the stakes of this specific UFC

1575
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: fifty two fight the Steaks, all right? What was that

1576
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: steak for me?

1577
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: Like? That was I mean my chance to the shot

1578
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 3: shot at a title.

1579
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have got another shot after.

1580
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: That you gotta great it one to ten decimals. Okay,

1581
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: takes ten, that is a fight. I'm gonna say it's

1582
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,479
Speaker 1: a nine point five. This is not just bearing Chuck

1583
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: Liddell's freaking career. This was bearing like the UFC in general, Like,

1584
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 1: this is the splash you have, like the Ultimate Challenger

1585
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,879
Speaker 1: UFC Challenger Show, and.

1586
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it could have been any better for me,

1587
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 3: Like coming off of the Bonner Forest fight. Yeah, you know,

1588
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: the next week pay per view, the biggest paper view

1589
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 3: by by far we've had since they bought it. Yeah,

1590
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: lots of sh and then to have that explosive of

1591
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: finish when the dominant performance.

1592
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: You could couldn't asked for a better I mean, I think.

1593
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 5: Jack got a eight point three at a eight point nine.

1594
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: Let's go start power. You gotta grade the star power

1595
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: of this fight, you, Randy Couture. I think I saw

1596
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: Cindy Crawfer in the crowd.

1597
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 5: Some celebrities in the crowd, Kevin James.

1598
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: Kevin James was in there, Pam Anderson, Pam Anderson's in there.

1599
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 5: Jack, Cindy Crawford, Michael everyone was there. Vanilla.

1600
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: You got to grade the star power of this vice.

1601
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a funny story about the Vanilla please.

1602
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 3: My buddy took a picture was fight fight, and there's

1603
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 3: when I knocked out Randy.

1604
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: I first hit him. There's a picture.

1605
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: The whole celebrity rote with everybody in that row like

1606
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: this except for Vanilla Ice who was doing this.

1607
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: So you know who your true fans are?

1608
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 5: Hey, Vanilla Ice, Ice man, that's obviously man.

1609
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: I was like man, he was out of his chair.

1610
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: Man.

1611
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

1612
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 5: Are you telled you with ice cuban iced tea as well?

1613
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: All Ice sticks together? Well on Swartzenegger Ice Man, he is.

1614
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: We got to grade the star power Zer were to

1615
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: ten for that for the time.

1616
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I got nine five and

1617
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1618
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. I'm gonna go eight nine. That's a

1619
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,520
Speaker 1: that's a big ass crowd.

1620
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 5: Jacket of nine point two out of eight point five.

1621
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: The game player of the fight. So how the fight

1622
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: actually went? You gotta you have to grade the fight.

1623
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: It's a ten for me, that's a ten for Chuck.

1624
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean I went the.

1625
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: Way I expected it, and that we hit him with

1626
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: that that was the punch we wanted to knock him

1627
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: out with it, and we wanted him to just come

1628
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 3: and walk in and catch him so and I got

1629
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 3: him with it.

1630
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime there's a fucking knockout, that's the best

1631
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,520
Speaker 1: way to win. I'm gonna go with a nine.

1632
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 5: Duels with the nine jack with a six point two

1633
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 5: to five foot one, and I'll explain because your side

1634
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 5: was perfect, perfect five and then less so on his side.

1635
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 5: So that's that's my my how.

1636
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know score and you're a

1637
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: perfect for me.

1638
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure as hell did.

1639
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: And now lastly, we score the name of the game.

1640
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: The name of the game. The Iceman's cometh, Cometh cometh,

1641
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: the Iceman's cometh.

1642
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 5: The iceman cometh, his coming, the iceman cometh.

1643
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: How do you get a little different?

1644
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: But we are grading.

1645
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how you say.

1646
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 4: I like the way he said it.

1647
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: That a big reader. Chuck that a big reader. We

1648
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: got to score it.

1649
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 5: It's also the cultural impact of this match too, in

1650
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 5: the landscape of UFC and all sports.

1651
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: To the score of the name.

1652
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: Depends on how you saying.

1653
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: I guess, wait, your version of your version ten?

1654
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: I would like I don't know, it's eight.

1655
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: Eight, Jules, I'm gonna go with that eight to one

1656
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: eight one.

1657
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 5: Jack had a seven point zero at a six point eight,

1658
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 5: Where does that go? It's an eight point three one?

1659
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 5: Or is it?

1660
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: Line up? In all our games and fights?

1661
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 5: That puts us just behind the Shrug Game, the nineteen

1662
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 5: ninety two NBA Finals Game one Blazers versus Bulls, the

1663
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 5: Jordan Shrug Game, and just ahead of Game six of

1664
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty NBA Finals Lakers versus Heat, which is

1665
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 5: at eight point one seven. We just did with Genie Buss.

1666
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 5: So that makes it the new twenty seventh.

1667
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: Not bad? Fuck yeah, twenty seventh on the whole thing.

1668
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 5: The only where's are of the UFC fight we did

1669
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 5: Kabb and McGregor.

1670
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: Where is that right there? It's thirty three thirty three?

1671
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: Did you guys?

1672
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: Have you done the the Giants Super Bowl?

1673
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? We did that that the Giant Super Bowl. One

1674
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: Giant loss.

1675
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 5: Is we're a little bias here is a little bit

1676
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 5: little bias.

1677
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, I don't even hate this,

1678
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: but that eighteen and one chant on the way out

1679
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 3: of the stadium was pretty amazing.

1680
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't a Patriot yet. I wasn't a Patriot. I

1681
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,480
Speaker 1: was still in high school. Chat.

1682
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: I know, but you look it back.

1683
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: Look I was.

1684
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: I was at that game. So walking out, the New

1685
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: York fans chanted eighteen and one all the way out.

1686
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: Man, they were chanting eighteen and one, eighteen and one.

1687
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: After the game, I mean, they're New Yorkers.

1688
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 5: Who are you rooting for?

1689
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: Oh? I was from the Stray.

1690
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, he's a good dude who straight and yeah,

1691
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: co worker, give you, I'll give you stray. I'll let

1692
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: you have Stray.

1693
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: If he wasn't in actually used to give me tickets

1694
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowls.

1695
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to h and like, like I

1696
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: usually give them up, like if if it wasn't it

1697
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: was Green bayy Maker or it wasn't wasn't a team

1698
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 3: I wanted to see, but I would.

1699
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 2: I went to that one because they have.

1700
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean then this was this was all that was

1701
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: a legendary Super Bowl.

1702
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: I mean I'm still mad.

1703
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm still mad about that going for sixteen to er

1704
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: because we we had to fight the same night. Yeah,

1705
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 3: they had a free they had that free It.

1706
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: Crying costs us a lot of cos cost me some

1707
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: money on paper field.

1708
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: So then you won. You won. After this game, it.

1709
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 3: Was on every channel free because they're going for sixteen

1710
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 3: as a sixty old season.

1711
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 5: And Randy moss broke the record. Tom and Randy moss Brook.

1712
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: Broke the record against the Giants.

1713
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, we did that game too. We did the

1714
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 5: game of the same day.

1715
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: You lose your casual fans without a doubt.

1716
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 3: Because the casual fans like, wow, I want to watch this,

1717
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: Well I have a choice. I had to pay for

1718
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: something to watch this and watch us for free everywhere.

1719
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: And football is a machine in this country. Yeah, I

1720
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: mean that's a fucking it's a jugger or not. Don't

1721
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: ask basketball about Christmas Day. The NFL just put a

1722
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: game on Christmas and and that used to be like

1723
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: NBA's day. And it shattered, it shattered him. You know,

1724
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: there's no there's there's no uh, there's what is it?

1725
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: There's no love or something in war.

1726
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 5: No lost and love, no love lost and love and

1727
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 5: war all fair and love and all's fair and love.

1728
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: All that's fair and loving. Fucking Chuck Leedonos obviously not

1729
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: word guys here, Chuck, do we miss anything with this fight?

1730
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't know not really it was.

1731
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: I have one last question, okay, this whole thing. I'm

1732
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: sitting here and I was watching a lot of like

1733
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: the stories behind this fight and the UFC, and they

1734
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: kept on pitching like, yeah, you basically get to see

1735
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: a sumos like who would win in a fight, Mike

1736
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: Tyson or Bruce Lee? You know what I mean, the

1737
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: real person who they should be saying. Really, I want

1738
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: to ask you, is it Chuck Norris? Isn't Chuck Norris

1739
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: supposed to be like one of the baddest motherfuckers and

1740
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: like life when it came to it.

1741
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: Chuck Doris, Yeah, no, it was.

1742
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: It was the you're kick.

1743
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Carl Karwning guy.

1744
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 3: It's probably you know, he's on the movies and stuff,

1745
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 3: and Chuck's a great dude. Like I Actually, funny thing

1746
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 3: is I didn have a happy birthday thing for him. Yeah,

1747
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: I've been asked me to do a video and I'm

1748
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 3: looking at him like, wait, let me see. I've been

1749
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: a fan as I love. I've been a fantas let

1750
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 3: me look that up forty years Oh no, that old,

1751
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: Like I've been a fan of for four I've been

1752
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: watching movies for forty Years's crazy.

1753
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:34,839
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1754
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1755
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: He's still around.

1756
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 3: As they asked me to do something with his uh

1757
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: his dog food and brands like it's cool.

1758
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: Like he's a good dude.

1759
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: We I think Chuck Norris should do something for Chuck

1760
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: Liddell's food. That's I'm trying to make a Chuck Chuck

1761
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: Norris joke. But I'm not that smart. You did so

1762
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: I had nothing. Everyone's got to go check out Chuck

1763
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:05,440
Speaker 1: Liddell on social media, all of the platforms. King of violence, clothing.

1764
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 5: You're wearing a shirt right now.

1765
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: Wearing his shirt right now.

1766
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 5: Look at this.

1767
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: You see badass. You guys got a little anime look

1768
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: to it. Oh my, I like anything else to plug Chuck.

1769
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh you know not right now. We've got some other

1770
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: stuff coming up.

1771
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, dude, I appreciate you coming into the

1772
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: house so much. Man, thank you man. That was an

1773
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:37,440
Speaker 1: awesome episode, Chuck. I didn't realize he was karate wrestling,

1774
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: kickboxing kickboxing. It's cool to get all that straightened out.

1775
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 5: The wrestler talk is always cool. Yeah, yeah, I was.

1776
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 5: We were looking. We couldn't get it completely confirmed. You

1777
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 5: talked about Steven Neil, who was at cal State Bakerfield

1778
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 5: win a national championship, beat brock Lessener in the finals.

1779
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 5: Te Doo or Teas might have been teammates with him.

1780
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 5: Teeto or Teas wrestled cal State Bakersfield around you wanted.

1781
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: To get there, Okay, I mean he's still Chuck Ladell.

1782
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: You don't want to piss him off. All right.

1783
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 5: We had a nice little hang with him afterwards.

1784
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: We had a great hand with him. But still all

1785
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 1: kinds of stories told us then too.

1786
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 5: He is a legend being a top dog athlete in

1787
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 5: like two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, like

1788
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: pre social media, pre like cameras. Really you could get

1789
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 5: away with some stuff.

1790
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then also how about like his kids playing

1791
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: against parents that like are trying to rowle up Chuck Liddell. Okay,

1792
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 1: read a room, Read a fucking room.

1793
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 5: Imagine being twelve years old and Chuck Ladell is heckling you.

1794
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: No, but not even that, it's the parents. Like everywhere

1795
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: I've been I go to these soccer games. Okay, you

1796
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: sit and you see the other parents and stuff, and

1797
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: don't for a second tell me you didn't see Chuck

1798
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: Liddell don't for a second. Can tell me you didn't

1799
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: see Chuck Liddell. You could see him from a mile away,

1800
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: to see that mohawk, yep, and his fanny pack and

1801
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: the way he stands and ship that's you know, he's

1802
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: probably out in the corner back over there in the

1803
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: fucking soccer field or the basketball gym where he's just

1804
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: sitting there. He's got something in his fanny pack. He's

1805
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: getting there and he's got his fuck. Kind of reminded

1806
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: me of my dad. But you're not gonna fuck with

1807
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: Chuck Leadell. So parents, read the room.

1808
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 5: The chill Zone Ready.

1809
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: It's time for the chill Zone, brought to you by

1810
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1811
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1812
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 5: Can you toss me one?

1813
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 3: No?

1814
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 5: No, let's see.

1815
01:19:52,160 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: Let's see here, Oh soft hands Kyler, h ugly finder,

1816
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: need new computer? Computer is done?

1817
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 5: I need anyway? All right, We're just start with some voicemails.

1818
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: Oka, do some voicemails.

1819
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 8: Hey, what's up? Games with Names? This is Robert from

1820
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 8: Hollis for California. I listened to the show every commute

1821
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 8: I have.

1822
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: I work in the Bay.

1823
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 8: Area from Hayward. You know, I work for Pepsi and

1824
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 8: uh you guys always you know, keep me entertained on

1825
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 8: my commutes. I listen to you guys on the road.

1826
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 8: I watched your guests of YouTube videos. My question for Julian,

1827
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 8: I'm always in the Redwood City area working. What do

1828
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 8: you recommend I go to week I like Mexican food,

1829
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 8: I like the Americans, So if you can recommend something

1830
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 8: for me, I really appreciate it. If you guys roll

1831
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 8: you just keep it up.

1832
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. What's up? Robert from Hollister. I know Hollister

1833
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: very well, used to play them Pop Warner and then

1834
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: also it's up Rocky. It's right by Gilroy and that's

1835
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: where you used to take your dirt bikes Hollister. It's

1836
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 1: like it's like a it's a commute. It's a commute,

1837
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: especial with that traffic. So we appreciate you listening to

1838
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: our show during that commute. Mexican food and Redwood City easy.

1839
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: If you want a burrito, I'm a Chavez meat market guy.

1840
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: Uh not the one off Fifth Avenue? What is the other?

1841
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: The one right by uh Off of Whipple. There's a

1842
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: perpendicular street. Don't go to the fifth Avenue. Fifth Avenue

1843
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: One's fine, it does, it's justice, but it's not the

1844
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: original Chavez meat Market. Uh. Dad's been going there since

1845
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: he was like eight. We've been going to that place forever.

1846
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: They used to have a place called Liz Teca. And

1847
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: this this lady who's down it. She was kind of

1848
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: a pretty lady. I remember as a kid, and she

1849
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: like knew my dad because my dad's been going to

1850
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: these Mexican restaurants since he was like fucking kid, and

1851
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: so I remember they don't have last Teca. But if

1852
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:54,839
Speaker 1: you want some street tacos lgs el gren Taco eltent,

1853
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: Taco Grenze. Damn, I can't roll my r with my

1854
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: dip in right now. So yeah, chaves me Margaret, Tacos lgs,

1855
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: Taco Grenze. There's like four of them. Uh those are

1856
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: my spots.

1857
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 5: What are you ordering there?

1858
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,520
Speaker 1: I always just get a super burrito at Chavez.

1859
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 5: So what's that? Guaka sour cream? No guac?

1860
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't like quaking my my burrito. I like, I

1861
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: like my burritos sour creamy, Okay, So I go. They

1862
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: they throw in a uh a pinto bean rice, pico

1863
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: de gayo, salsa kiso. I usually go with the cardne

1864
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: sado or uh and then they put like a pico

1865
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: de guayo in there with crema casso. Yeah, it's pretty good.

1866
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: It's like my favorite. I like that, and it's got

1867
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: like the runny sour cream. Runny sour cream for Mexican food,

1868
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: can't be having like some fucking what is it a

1869
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: dolls or whatever, like squeezing some sour cream that you

1870
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: should be putting.

1871
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 5: Now, are you ever like for me for burritos, I'm

1872
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 5: a big like burrito and sauce on top of every bike.

1873
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get the sauce of very day and

1874
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: you put it every bite, Yeah, every bite and then

1875
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: tacos LG's I just go. They also have kind of

1876
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: sneaky good case ideas where they they make the case

1877
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: of d and then they cut it up and they

1878
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: put lettuce, sour cream and the salsa. It's it's a

1879
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: fucking messy case on top of it, so you have

1880
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: to use four king knife where you're going hands. Yeah,

1881
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: me and my boy dro used to snag those all

1882
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: the time.

1883
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 5: Is it a type of place that's cutting up. But

1884
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 5: you know, like the spackle spatulas. Yeah, they're cutting up

1885
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 5: with that.

1886
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're just cutting they so they'll grab the

1887
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: This is how they do. They grab the piece of

1888
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: the meat. And they used to be able to eyeball it.

1889
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: Now they've gotten a little too capitalistic now for my liking.

1890
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: Where they're measuring ship out. Then I understand where you're going.

1891
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: But you know, they used to eyeball it and then

1892
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: they fucking cut it right there out with the like

1893
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: the butcher knife. Yeah, and they and they get it

1894
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: and they put it on your burrito and they roll

1895
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: it nice and tight. They used to steam the tortilla

1896
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: and now they've changed it or yeah, now they have

1897
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 1: like a presser. Okay, but uh, I'm a Chavez meat market.

1898
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: LG's for tacos.

1899
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 5: Did you take us? I think you took us there

1900
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 5: when we were there years ago.

1901
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: It was it good?

1902
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember being really good. You like it's kind

1903
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,879
Speaker 5: of like in the like kind of like a convenience

1904
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 5: store type vibe.

1905
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's old's a Mexican market, so

1906
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: good great, and they also have really good So that's

1907
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: what we'll do is We'll buy a bunch of their

1908
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: meat there because it's a meat market and you could

1909
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: buy and you can make your own tacos. So like

1910
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: if I do tacos, I'll buy their meat. They season

1911
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: it and they got like the flank steak, like the

1912
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: very thin yeah, and then you cut, you put that

1913
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: on there and bang you get the sides within. All

1914
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: their sauces and stuff like we always do that. We

1915
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: cater with them a bunch. I love Chavez Meat Market. Shit,

1916
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: I make it a burrito time. I know they don't have.

1917
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: It's different. Those different a mission style burrito.

1918
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 5: The tortillas are different.

1919
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're mission style like out here. They don't

1920
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: put they don't put rice and beans in there.

1921
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 5: My spot does. Which is it? It's I don't want

1922
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 5: to blow it up. But on Vine and Melrose in

1923
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 5: the Pavilions parking lot. Oh and what they do?

1924
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Wait? Wait is it?

1925
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 5: Wait? I took you that place?

1926
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you keep on. Those are all the same.

1927
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Those are all the stirrup palette because there's no well,

1928
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, like I've been to the one

1929
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: right down the road.

1930
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 5: Mind's better than yours. Ones. I agree with that. Mine's

1931
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: better than yours. That Yeah, we're on the west side, west.

1932
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 1: Side, but there's the Brothers one on the west side

1933
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: that was okay, it's that, But when I go to

1934
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: those ones, so what we're what we're talking about in

1935
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: like uh, parking lots or on the side of streets

1936
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: in La you'll have people at five o'clock that they

1937
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: just bring their freaking flat top and they make their

1938
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: own tacos and burritos and ship only one complaint for me,

1939
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: But I I solve the complaint. I bring my own crema.

1940
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: So I'll bring sour cream because you'll you'll order your

1941
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: thing and then you put your own ship on and

1942
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: then they roll it for you. So I'll put my

1943
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: ship in. I'll get my sour cream out of my

1944
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: pocket and I'll pour it on there. And my dude

1945
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: always looks at me, he goes, that's smart.

1946
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 5: So you bring sour cream and then you put it

1947
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 5: in when they put it in. See, I put the

1948
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 5: sour cream on top when I'm not.

1949
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: It's gotta I like the juices to formulate in the

1950
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 1: burrito with the sour cream. Then it becomes a creamy juice.

1951
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 5: I might have to steal that move Yeah.

1952
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: It's it's a spectacular move like it makes those it makes.

1953
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: It's just it's so much work for me to do that.

1954
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: I only do it like once a month because like

1955
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: I gotta plant it out because I get I get

1956
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: sticked out with like if the sour cream gets too warm,

1957
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, but those are those

1958
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: are those are the those are the best around here

1959
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: for those.

1960
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 5: But it's a different style because like the Mission style burritos,

1961
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 5: it's a little bit tighter. The tortilla is a little

1962
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 5: bit different. You're gonna have sour cream, right.

1963
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 1: They usually have a pico too. In nor Cow like

1964
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of times they'll just put cilantro onion. Here.

1965
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: I had a little tomato in there.

1966
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, little lime juice in there. The place

1967
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 5: that I go to when you get a burrito, you

1968
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: can ask with con Queso. They throw the cheese down

1969
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 5: on the grid.

1970
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: And they then they put on this tortilla on top.

1971
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've been them.

1972
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 7: How long is you been a Boston fan?

1973
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 5: And did you hate any Boston players teams growing up?

1974
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 7: Thanks to have a nice day.

1975
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, I've been a Boston fan. I became

1976
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: a Boston fan. Right when I got drafted two thousand

1977
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: and nine, I went out and bought me a Celtics hat.

1978
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: I went out and got me a Red Sox hat.

1979
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: I've always I've never like on the West Coast. You

1980
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: really didn't know about Boston all that much. I knew

1981
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: they were the sexy team with Kurt Shilling and those guys,

1982
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: and like you all liked Big Poppy, but they were

1983
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: kind of like they were the likable team to a

1984
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: West Coaster compared to the Yankees, underdog to the Yanks.

1985
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: I hated Yankees growing up. Yeah, sick hat, love the hat,

1986
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: love the Unis, but I could never wear a Yankees cap,

1987
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: like even as a kid, Just like I don't like

1988
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. You know, I'm a Bay Area kid. I don't.

1989
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: I hate the La Dodgers hat. Such a sick hat,

1990
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: but I can't wear it. You know, I'm a SF fan.

1991
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: But uh, I would say two thousand and nine because

1992
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: when I got there, the Celtics just won the championship

1993
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, Big Three, and then I

1994
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: was in. I got to go to the playoffs when

1995
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: they were playing against the Lakers as a rookie and

1996
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I started going. That was like the first basketball games

1997
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: I really went to, and the Bruins were doing good

1998
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: and I became friends with a bunch of the Bruins,

1999
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: So I think, I think right when I got there,

2000
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: I like took on the Boston thing. I was like, man,

2001
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I fucking love this place, pro city towns kind of

2002
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: like my Bay Area, and like it didn't have any refute,

2003
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Like it didn't refute with San Francisco.

2004
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 5: I understand, you know what I mean. It's a nice, clean,

2005
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 5: different car conference or a different side of the country.

2006
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 5: It's not offensive, there's no rivalries. I totally understand.

2007
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like the Lakers or Yankees where you

2008
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: just hated both of them because those are the great

2009
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, even though the Boston teams

2010
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: were the greats too, but it's a different They've always

2011
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: been like an underdog looking team.

2012
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand. I just bought an La King's shirt

2013
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 5: yesterday just because like there is no friction between them

2014
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 5: and the Penguins, and then it's sick things. So it's

2015
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 5: like I understand the cross country, the cross conference.

2016
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Ever since that La skate, I felt a little more

2017
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: part of this community. Yeah, and like I've looked at

2018
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 1: the Kings games now a little.

2019
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should go to they're probably in the playoffs.

2020
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 5: We should go to a playoff game. We should that'd

2021
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 5: be sick. Was just in town, So was there any

2022
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 5: we have last night? Were there any players Boston players

2023
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 5: you hated?

2024
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: I didn't hate any of them. I liked Garcia Papara,

2025
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: I liked everyone said there, what is his name? No

2026
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: more Garcia Para, Yeah, no more Garcia Para. I I

2027
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: just remember watching Ship like like the batting gloves.

2028
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 5: Cooked with the fucking shot clock now.

2029
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just cooked. And I loved Poppy. I mean

2030
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Poppy was like I just remember in high school seeing

2031
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: this guy swearing at the mic after they just won

2032
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: a World Series and beat the Yankees. I was like,

2033
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: this guy is fucking badass.

2034
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 5: Now were there so well? You must have had eyes

2035
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 5: on Tom Brady being a Bay kid playing.

2036
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: So I liked. I liked so I actually even more. Yeah,

2037
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: you're you're refreshing me. So Tom was from my area,

2038
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: so I always I liked the pain. I had no

2039
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: clue that they were part of Boston though, I didn't

2040
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: know where New England was before I got there, so

2041
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: I got I didn't just like zero clue or he

2042
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: just knew it was generally fucking you know, like the

2043
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: pregame of Madden. I would play with the Patriots after

2044
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: like Tom won a Super Bowl and like oh one

2045
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: or something, and I'm like, where the fuck is this place.

2046
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: It's like in a forest, like there's no city, you

2047
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I didn't really know what New

2048
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: England was like that. And then you know, just I

2049
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: always rooted for Tom because he was from the like

2050
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: right where I grew up, and he was kind of

2051
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: the underdog, like the whole Michigan story. He had to

2052
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: play for his job, like that was all kind of

2053
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: known in the Bay.

2054
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2055
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: And then also like Peyton Manning was the guy and

2056
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: everyone was hyping up him up and then Tom came

2057
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: and he was winning. Like I liked that story.

2058
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 5: Well, he he was kind of in that same like

2059
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 5: Boston Red Sox underdog in the first dynasty, was in

2060
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 5: that easy to root for a like loo care you know.

2061
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 5: And then the Bay connections, I'm assuming with just the

2062
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 5: Bay connection was everything. Good question.

2063
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: That was a really good question, you know.

2064
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, Julian Middleman, It's your boy much mean ween deceived.

2065
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 7: You see him playing about the games with Main Studio

2066
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 7: when the goodyear blink, you know, And I've been thinking

2067
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 7: about coming down there because there was something I gotta

2068
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 7: teach you. You know, I'm gonna bing you over my

2069
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 7: knee and take off this World Heavyweight championship, build you

2070
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 7: and beat you with it like you he should have you.

2071
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 7: You ain't gonna be able to handle with the macho

2072
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 7: mans doing for you to like the cream of the crupt. Yes,

2073
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 7: I'll get your leaders, little boy.

2074
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, but pretty good macho?

2075
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 5: Was that just Jack too much Corse light?

2076
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: We gotta just we should start picking in a post

2077
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: segment picking. I just want to pick a macho man

2078
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Randy Savage clip that I find and we just talked

2079
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: about it for two minutes, three minutes.

2080
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 5: Conon O'Briant. When when NBC and Universal merged years ago,

2081
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 5: when Con O'Brian was doing the Late Show whatever it

2082
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 5: used to be called, he had a Walker Texas Ranger

2083
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 5: level lever and every once in a while he just

2084
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 5: pulled the lever and just be the most random, hilarious

2085
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 5: Walker Texas Ranger clip. I feel like we could do

2086
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 5: that for macho man. Yeah, macho man lever I just.

2087
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: Saw I think I saw him skiing on the Alps last week.

2088
01:32:54,840 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 1: For my algorithm, that's because you were just skiing, skie.

2089
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to show this mache this mache mountain. Who

2090
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: right there?

2091
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 5: Awesome? Uh we I'll tell you later. But there's a

2092
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 5: guest coming on that's doing a very deep cut WWE

2093
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 5: match coming up because he's a wrestler adjacent he we

2094
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 5: just got invited to the w the A e W

2095
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 5: event in Long Beach in a couple of weeks O

2096
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 5: A e W, m LW.

2097
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Sorry MLW, considering I was only only a ww F

2098
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: guy and I just had to get to WWE anyone

2099
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: who did the WCW. I mean, I loved Goldberg, but

2100
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: he was the only one from WCW, and there was

2101
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a couple of the other off brand ones. Okay, I'm

2102
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: just telling you. I'm a one brand guym one brand guy.

2103
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: WWF that turned into WWE.

2104
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,520
Speaker 5: This my speak to my childhood. But when I think WWF,

2105
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 5: I do actually think the World Wildlife Federation. Because I

2106
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 5: had to post a picture. It was a sticker of

2107
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 5: a panda with WWF and my parents refrigerator. It's hard

2108
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 5: to believe they won anyway.

2109
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 6: Last voicemail, Hey, Jules, my dad and I have always

2110
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 6: wondered in Super Bowl forty nine, at right after the

2111
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 6: Malcolm Butler interception, Michael Bennett jumps off side.

2112
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 3: But what was the play call.

2113
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 5: In the huddle?

2114
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 6: Was it a QB sneak or was it something different?

2115
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Thanks, that's a great question. I think I want to

2116
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: say it was a QB sneak because we needed to

2117
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: gain some rooms, like on like six you couldn't take

2118
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: a knee, so it was a QB sneak. We were

2119
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: actually tripping in the not tripping, but like on high alert,

2120
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: like boys, we need to execute this play. The game's

2121
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 1: not over. And you know, thankfully Mike jumped off sides

2122
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 1: and that was a game and then we had melee

2123
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: after melee and then it was fucking ww F out there.

2124
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 1: So but it was a QB sneak.

2125
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 5: That's something gets lost with that game is that after

2126
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 5: the interception wasn't just like confetti. There was that like

2127
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 5: balls on the six inch line. You gotta not have

2128
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 5: a safety here.

2129
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: Gronk and Michael just fucking throwing haymakers and it was

2130
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: kind of at the point where like I bet you

2131
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 1: at that point it was I'm thinking now, like looking

2132
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: back on it, you can probably get a couple of

2133
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: punches and you wouldn't get suspended.

2134
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,719
Speaker 5: Why was Slater on the field.

2135
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: He's because he was always in the right tight diamond

2136
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 1: kill part of the field.

2137
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 5: So that but wasn't that isn't that, Neil, I.

2138
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: Think he may have been in it is also he

2139
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: would always be on there just because he would be

2140
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: the safety. Okay, if anything ever were to happen there

2141
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: was a fumbled snap, they somehow got it. He was

2142
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: like our fastest guy that could go get.

2143
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 5: Him, fastest smart on the field.

2144
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we always put Slate on right tight diamond kill.

2145
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: Best playing football the knee, the knee.

2146
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 5: All right, before we wrap up, let's go some of

2147
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 5: you might know we've been doing YouTube premieres for full

2148
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 5: length episodes. Jackson there, I'm in there. You've been in there.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of fun. This is the whole crew

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01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 5: of people the mem accounts in their shoutout daland and

2151
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 5: we encourage you to leave comments that we will communicate

2152
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 5: and talk about on the show. Well here they are

2153
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 5: also it's good for the algorithm to comment on the show.

2154
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 5: So you think you need to help, would be great.

2155
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 5: So here are some comments that people left in the

2156
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 5: full length episodes. Do you want me to read them?

2157
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 5: Do you want to read them?

2158
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Need Danny would head on the show? I agree, or

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01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: you would be free.

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01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 5: Right now? Nebraska, he's in Nebraska.

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01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 1: He's probably golf and he's a great golfer. Danny's an

2162
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: unbelievable golfer, and he's a great dad. He's probably like

2163
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: him and his wife. They're like just a great they're

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01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 1: such great Midwest people. They probably at a soccer event

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 5: Is Nebraska Midwest?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Nebraska's Midwest is Heartland different from Midwest? Yeah, I

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Speaker 9: don't know, but I put the Yeah, it's all they're

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Speaker 9: in the same. Yeah, okay, just delightful people.

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Speaker 5: He's he's a top person that people recommend to have

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Speaker 5: on the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to. I think he's he has his

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Speaker 1: own shows and stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think she just had some stuff before. I

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Speaker 5: would love to have Woody on give me some golfing tips. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I need a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: He's dude. Woody is like scratch. I remember hearing about

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Speaker 1: him when we were playing, and you know, he's got

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Speaker 1: a lot more time on his hand to work on

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Speaker 1: that ship, so he's probably fucking He didn't try to

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Speaker 1: qualify a couple of times. I remember we tweeted for

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Speaker 1: some shit for him.

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Speaker 5: He was close. I think in the US Open I

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Speaker 5: have to double check in that, but that was Aiden

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Speaker 5: Lamir twenty one. Thanks for that comment, Drake Ankram.

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Speaker 1: Episodes with both mccordy's would be dope. I think that

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Speaker 1: would be amazing.

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Speaker 5: Can you tell them apart?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, easy, easy, I can easily tell them. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why, but I can.

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Speaker 5: When you know twins, it's actually super EASi and own part.

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Speaker 5: It's just when you don't know him that it's hard.

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Speaker 1: Jason, like in his eye area, like right here for

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Speaker 1: podcasters that are listening, it's right here. If you look

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Speaker 1: like I see it right in this area. Like the

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Speaker 1: eyes a little different then that. The shape of the

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Speaker 1: head is a little different too, shaved both, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: shaped a little. And the voices are different too. I

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Speaker 1: know the voice too, and the tones are different. The

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Speaker 1: tones are Devin's an asshole tone, Jason's an informational tone.

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Speaker 5: What's the difference between do you like an example of

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Speaker 5: an asshole tone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Dev's Dev's they're just they're they're fucking

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01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: they'd be amazing on the show because there's they're just

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01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: those are the guys that smoke in front of the team.

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01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: They could speak in front of people. Yeah, oh I

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01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: love They're really good to watch too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're great at Bay Shaughnessy five three one for

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Speaker 5: intelligence was key.

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Speaker 1: The intelligence was the key to New England's dynasty. All

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01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: these former pats are intelligent guys.

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Speaker 5: Intelligent not reading. There's a fine line between those two.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you don't have to be a great reader

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Speaker 1: to be intelligent. Yeah, completely agree, and me too. Yeah,

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01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean we had we haven't We had some smart guys. Yeah,

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01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean we had to. We were we were in

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01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: class all day and like if you didn't do good

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01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 1: on your test, you got fired. So guys you had

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Speaker 1: to stick around. Guys had to be able to retain information.

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Speaker 1: There's one you know what I mean. There we had.

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Speaker 1: We had a really good group of guys. There wasn't

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Speaker 1: that many assholes. Weren't many. I don't, I don't. There

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01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: wasn't any really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: There guys worked hard and that was that was a

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01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: product of because of our leadership, the guys at the

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01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 1: top up the Tom Brady's, no one else thought they could.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not cool when you roll up into

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01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: the locker room like ten chains and fucking new. No,

2231
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: it's cool is when you roll up and you break

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01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: down a coverage with the quarterback that you saw in

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01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: the game, that he saw and create that conversation. That's

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01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: fucking cool because you know what that turns into. That

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01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 1: turns into another chain. Yeah, if he throws you the rock.

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01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 5: Yeah. One of my favorite things about the show is

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01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 5: that generally athletes and football players don't really have the

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01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 5: opportunity to have a long form piece of media out there.

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01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 5: So it's like you bring all these pages guys front

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Speaker 5: office and players, and there's two three hours where they

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01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 5: can talk and you can just talk football and you

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01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 5: can really like dive into the intelligence of these guys.

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01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: What's her name? But what's the name?

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01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 5: Bay Shaughnessy five three?

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01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: One? That's probably directed to Rid. She's like, man, Rid's

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01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: a lot smarter than I thought he was.

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01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 5: Why would you say that, Chiels, Why would you?

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01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, because he's a running back they probably

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01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 1: ridd some funny ass dude. He didn't talk that much

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Speaker 1: and that was his first podcast, so she probably saw

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01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: the riddly episode. She said, like, man, I didn't think

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01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: he was that smart, but he's pretty fucking smart.

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01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like, if Rid's that smart, how much? Yeah,

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01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 5: we got to do more stuff with rad. He was great.

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01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 5: He's got more stories too, He's the best. A couple

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Speaker 5: more here da.

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Speaker 1: J Morn, I know, get j Morn saw him es

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01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 1: Court Genie in the opening shot. Funny dude and big

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01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: sports guy. That was what a couple of weeks ago,

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01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: and we were texting back and forth and I had

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01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: to travel and we we got to do a pod swap.

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01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: For sure. He's he's definitely a funny guy.

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01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 5: I mean he's spent like twenty minutes going through like

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01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 5: the Member billion everything roasting.

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01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:50,759
Speaker 1: He had a story on everything.

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01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get him on the show, and

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01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: we got to do his show. Got Jenie bust before

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01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 1: we got Tom Unreal, Yeah, I know, pretty unreal. Does

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01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: the Bubble Championship really count? Yeah?

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01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah? All the teams were there, right, you had to

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01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 5: beat every team to win?

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01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 5: Okay, last couple here a World's most hated three thousand.

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01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Congrats on half a MILLI cheers to a half a

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Speaker 1: MILLI more.

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01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 5: We have five hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube.

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01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go.

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01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 5: Thank you guys. That's all you guys.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, World's most hated three thousand. Thanks for fucking see.

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01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: I would never hate you for bringing that up. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think the name is World's most hated?

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01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 2: Is that?

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01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 9: Like?

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01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't have enough life for us

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01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 5: to speculate.

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01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him. I like him a lot. He's

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01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: not hated three thousand.

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01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Buzonette has joined Burr o'she Jackson Junior, Matt Light and

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Speaker 1: Michael Keegan, k as Weagan, Michael Key, Keegan, Michael Kay.

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Speaker 1: Busie has now joined burr Oshae Jackson Junior, Matt Light

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01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: and Michael Keegan.

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01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 2: Kay.

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01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 5: But I think it's it's Jules is reading it right,

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01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 5: it's Keegan, Michael Key right, but the comment is flipped,

2297
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 5: so you're right, but you're wrong. You're right, they're wrong,

2298
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 5: but you're just you know, it's a I'm Ron Burgundy

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01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 5: moment here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, Key Key, It's Key, It's Keegan Michael Key.

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01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 5: They have it, Michael Kegan, Key, Michael Key, Keegan, No,

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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 5: it's it's Keegan Michael Key. Go see Transformers one great fuck.

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01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 5: Go get an go get a Coney Island dog, isn't

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01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 5: it It's funny? Yeah, he was good. This is just

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01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 5: a new listener, right, These are like the last couple episodes.

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01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta you gotta go get get up in

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01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: those weeds. Buhud ye go get the weeds and you'll

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01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: see some real funny shit too.

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01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 5: And then the last one. This is our top rad

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01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 5: this is our top requested game. Now that we've done

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01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 5: a lot of the Patriots Super Bowls, got to do

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01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 5: Fight Night at the Joe. Darren McCarty will come on

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01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 5: for sure, maybe Patrick wah We actually fun fact, we

2314
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 5: are talking with Darren McCarty. He wants to come on

2315
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 5: the show. It's scheduling. I also want to be greedy

2316
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 5: and get Claude lem you on too, But that'll happen.

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01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 5: That's gonna happen, got it.

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01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: We're we're full hockey podcast now.

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Speaker 5: Dude, you know who reached out? I don't even know

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01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 5: I should say this. You know who reached out? No, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Gretzky did, the NHL reached out, Oh, representing represent.

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01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Is Gretzy bigger than the NHL?

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01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 5: No, no yet, They're like, it's Tom Brady bigger than

2324
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 5: the NFL the NFL. No, no, right, it's they are

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Speaker 5: Is it Tom or Bill?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 5: You can't.

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01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: They are joking. It was a joke.

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01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 5: It's funny. But but the Stanley. But the NHL representing

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Speaker 5: Lord Stanley Cup.

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01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: Lord Stanley Cup might be on this couch here soon.

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01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 5: I heard, huh, we'll see, we'll see, let's make a cup.

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01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:03,759
Speaker 5: But if it doesn't, we'll.

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01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: Say you had fucking we had the basketball. Yeah, what

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01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 1: was that one called Larry O'Brien. We've had Larry on Yeah,

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01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: we're about to have Stanley. You can't even get old

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01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: anywhere we had.

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01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 5: This is what the NHL guy said. We had a

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01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 5: Larry O'Brien trophy on games with names, But we can

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01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 5: have the Stanley Cup on games with names.

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh, hockey getting her fingernails pretty dirty there, And that

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Speaker 1: and thanks again to Chuck. That's been another episode of

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